July 9, 2025 • 26 mins
Rob and Kelvin take Deion Sanders to task for suggesting that college football would benefit from an NIL salary cap, tell us why it's absolutely fair to suggest that Caitlin Clark's rabid fanbase is why she was left off the Team USA Women's Basketball roster last summer, and explain how the NFL is just like alcohol - and not in a good way.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Today was the Day one, or it may have been
Day two. I'm confused of the Big Twelve media days
because you know, it's like a.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Week long event nowadays.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And obviously Tom Obviously the big talking point, not just
for the Big Twelve but across college football is what
are we gonna do with nil? What are we gonna
do with the transfer portal? It's dominating the conversation, probably
even more so than the actual football itself or even
the college football playoff. Well, Colorado had football coach Dion
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Sanders has a plan he thinks would fix this whole situation.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
All you have to do is look at the playoffs
and see what those teams spent, and you understand during
their white end playoffs, it's kind of hard to compete
with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars during
freshman class. We're not complaining. And because all these coaches
are being a coach at butts often given the right
opportunity with the right players and play here and there,
you'll be there. But it's what's going on right now
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don't make sense, and we want to say stuff, but
we're trying to be professional. But you're going to see
the same teams during that at the end and with
somebody who sneaks up in there. But the teams that
pays the more, pays the most is going.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
To be that in.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Dion Sanders, Hello, is this on? So you're calling for
a cap?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Shame on Dion Sanders for being a hypocrite. Shame on you.
Did you call for a cap when the coaches were
making twenty million dollars eighteen million? Where was the coach's cap?
Is that fair? That Nick Sable was making a gazillion
dollar off the kids back? Where was that cap?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Dion?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
How come you didn't call for this when your boys,
your kids were in college Shadoor? Why didn't Shador give
the money back and say, you know what, I'm just
playing for the hell of it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
My dad's a former NFL player. We got loot.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I don't need money. I'm here to play football. Did
s your door take the money?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Must be then? Okay, this is ludicris.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The only people you want to punish are the players,
the actual product, Dion. Without the players, you can't coach,
you can't sell tickets. And I'm talking about the players
as a whole all people ever do and his evidence,
Who were the reporters sitting there and allowing him to
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give the evidence that look at the teams who spent
the most money? They all in the Have the chief
teams changed?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Has Ohio State all of a sudden become this team
that gets there every year? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They used to pay the kids under the table. Now
you gotta put the money on the table. It's the
same freaking teams. Give me the name, Deon, tell me
who paid a lot of money and got to the
college football playoffs? Who wouldn't have got there without the money.
He couldn't name you one because it's the same players. Hypocrisy,
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take advantage of the students, of the kids of the players.
You know why, because they're not represented. There's no agent
or body to protect them. Always blame the kids, Dion,
How dare you You came up to bat once as
a Yankee.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You know what he did.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He made the dollar sign in the batter's box. Fish
with the catch on the white sox took exception to it.
You remember it was about the money, wasn't it. This
is a fair market system this country. You know how
much you're worth, Dion. You're worth what someone's willing to
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pay you, period. And if they don't want to pay
the kids the money, don't pay them, Dion. Go out
and do a grassroots and say I'm not giving out
any nil money. I'm gonna recruit kids who want to
play college football for nothing. Let's see how good of
a coach you are with those kids. What poppy cock
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and boulder dash and utter nonsense, Dion. Come on, man,
I can't believe you would get on that soapbox and
deny kids a chance to earn money when these schools
are making millions of dollars off these kids back. This
whole nil was finally a chance to make some money
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back after all these You want to go and look
at the kids. They ran out of college because they
got a free pizza or they got a tattoo in
exchange for a warm up. Come on, man, I'll never
sit down for this. I'll never accept it. Dion, how
could you? Terrible?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Terrible? Don't be nick Saban, don't be like the old
white guys. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I like football the way it used to be. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It was good for the coaches and they made all
the money and the schools made all the money.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And the kids made nothing. I will not go back
for that, ever, ever. Ever.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Well, here's the thing. So usually you and I watched
the Ie couple. We differ on a lot of things.
A lot of what you just said I agree with
and I had written down and prepared to talk about.
So I'll try to take a couple different lanes with you, because,
to paraphrase a little bit of what you were just saying,
I had already planned to say, toothpastes out the tube.
We ain't going back right. One thing we know about it.
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When money gets rolling, money ain't going back in.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So the system is. System is where it is now,
and it gets you.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Why it's not going back is because the NC doublea
rob They blew their chance to do this twenty twenty five,
thirty thirty five years ago, when people were really starting
to make a fuss about this, say, hey man, this
doesn't seem right. You got examples, Hey man, fab five guys.
Why are y'all penalizing? Hey man, Ohio State kids getting tattoos.
What's the big deal. They got a couple sign a
couple of things. They got some tattoos. What's the big deal.
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And I used to call that identity theft. To me,
the NCUBA four decades had been participating in identity theft.
They stole the identity of players. One of my favorite
games going up rob was Coach k Basketball. Was like
it was so fun and you knew exactly who that was.
Back then it would be like the UCLA team with
the old Bannon brothers and Tyas Edney.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I know that's him. He's five foot eight, number
ten or whatever. That's Sias Edney.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
But yet it's everything about them, but it's not him,
and they can make the money off the back of him.
So to me, the NCAA have been practicing identity theft
for so long and gotten away with it. Now we
have created the wild, wild West, and this is a
result of it. And you know what happens when you
give leeway, when you finally open up the floodgates, eventually
you have to find back, get open up the parameters
and scale things back a little bit. So right now,
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Dion Nick Saban, what we're dealing with is the floodgates opening.
Why we try to figure this thing out because rob
they were selfish the NCAA for decades.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Now we're trying to figure this thing out. Can I
get I give you two numbers real quick? Chador's nil evaluation?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What six point five million, which is two million dollars
more than the NFL contract he has with the Browns.
If Dion came and took Shador's money or or then
I would listen to you. If you told your kid
you were not making any money, we're gonna give the
money back or whatever or not take it. And Dion
is making five five year, fifty four million dollars. Coach
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new Bridge Coloradson no money. So is there a coaches cap?
Come on, man, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
And that's been an issue that we've we've all been
saying for years as coaches are making two five, six
ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Nick saban. Hold on, let me get this in front
of you. Rock this pretend this is.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Is a coke having coke deals with when press conference
is so he puts the coke right there because he
can get a coke deal, but the players can't.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Players.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
You know, they were high school players, high school players
who will lose their college eligibility because they get all
the shoes, hundreds of pairs of shoes from Nike under
arm and god forbid, they sold a couple of pair
to help mom with the light bills. They literally lost
their college eligibility. So my point is we're way past this.
Kids are finally reaping the benefits of this. And that's
just where it is. The only other thing I said,
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because you, like I said, you touched on so many
points of that one thing, I will say, the transfer
portal that has made it where I don't want. And
this is just me looking at the young men becoming men,
and I think you can even appreciate where I'm going
with this. I don't mind the money and it say hey,
get it money. This is the capitalist society we live in.
The only thing I will say I don't want to
happen is where some young men rob they miss out
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on the chance to grow from adversity.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Meaning you go to the school. Man, I don't like that.
I'm not starting.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
I'm going to the other school as opposed to sometimes, hey,
push through. You know this from our careers. Hey man,
sometimes you got to push through. Sometimes you got to
go through some things. Sometimes isn't easy. And I don't
want a lot of young men to lose, in young women,
to lose that opportunity to grow through adversity, to go
through some tough things just because that other school's offered
me twenty thousand dollars, they offer me forty thousand dollars.
Or I thought I was starting, but now I'm second
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string cornerback. I don't want to wait, and I don't
want to work outwork this guy, you know what I mean.
That's my only other thing about that. I still want
kids to go through adversity, push through, and become better,
and I don't want them to always lean on Man,
this ain't working out. I want to go there, because kid,
you got something, going three four different schools in a
five year college career.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Because I don't like this. I don't like that money's
better over there.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
That will be my only one pause to this, but
the fact that they finally are making some money, and
not to mention rup, there's only a handful of kids.
You still got the right guard somewhere who ain't really
making nothing. So let's not act like this is a
every single person getting money. And I had it written
down here too, and you hit it. You can almost
see I wrote, same teams been winning, Sorry, the same
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Alabama been good at usc s. You know, Michigan fell
off a little bit. Pop back up in order to like,
you're getting the same twenty schools. And if you put
a cap on it, fine, it'll be the same twenty
schools because most schools robed couldn't afford the cap except
for the same twenty twenty by schools.
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Speaker 3 (11:36):
She made her return to the court earlier today. As
you guys now, I know you never missed Gaitlan Clark games.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Parts I'm I haven't seen one all year.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I will say it was odd that she played at
like ten am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That was really weird.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That was super awkward. But it wasn't a great performance
by her first game back from a groin injury. Ten points,
four to twelve, shooting, five rebound, six's is, four turnovers
and a blowboy loss. But to your point, the big
story coming into today's game was that new book by
Christine Brennan. She did a whole biography following Kaitlyn Clark,
her rise and her influence on the sporting world, not
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just in basketball but in sports period, and one.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
Of them had a riff. I'm surprised she wrote this book.
Did you have a riff with him? I'm not sure.
I'll have to look into that. But one of the
excerpts that's getting a little run today involves Kaitlyn Clark
being snubbed from the Olympic team last summer. You'll recall
it was a big much ado about, hey, how are
you going to leave out the most popular women's basketball
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player in America and leave her off Team USA?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And according to Christine Brennan, while sourced in this book,
the reasoning was twofold number one. Of the twelve roster spots,
one of them was already reserved for Dana to Rozzie.
No matter what that, they wanted to give her a
chance to get the record breaking gold medal. So even
though there was twelve spots technically available, there was really
only eleven, but number two. Most importantly, you guys alluded
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to it. The reason why, according to Christine Brennan, that
Kaitlyn Clark did not make the Team USA Olympic team
was nothing to do with her abilities, had everything to
do with what the Team USA decision makers deemed were
an unruly fan base. Specifically, they believed if they put
her on the roster and she did not play a
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lot of minutes, which is kind of what happens on
the Olympic teams. You got so many good players not
a lot of minutes to go around that there would
have been backlash, There would have been negative feedback, negative comments,
and they just said, hey, we'd rather leave her off
altogether than deal with that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And you know what, what I understand it, and we've
seen this. This is not a Caitlyn Clark thing. This
happened to Tim Tebow. He couldn't be a backup quarterback anywhere.
You remember he went to the Jets like because of
the fans, like, you don't want to deal with that.
What a backup quarterback is supposed to be seen, not heard,
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And in her case, fans would not have accepted her
not playing.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Remember Jason Tatum, he don't even have smoke like that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He didn't have a fan base like that, and people
were were worked up over him not getting any run. Right, Yeah,
he was the only American on a team like uh right,
Like like who was it wasn't he like all Pro
the only guy was American and he wasn't even on playing.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So My point was.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That I understand once they realize she's not going to
be the star that they want her to be, and
she's probably not going to be playing, and then all
the attention from the Olympics would be about what why
aren't they playing Caitlyn Clark? Oh they hate her all day,
blah blah blah blah blah, all that other stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I'll give you another one.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's why teams didn't want to draft Shador Sanders, because
you're gonna be a backup. Right here we go, how
old chadors? It replaces the starter? Oh, Shador, how come
we not playing? They're just trying to They got a
conspiracy in the NFL. They're trying to put a thumb
on Deon Sanders. This is racist, this is that. This
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is all.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You gotta deal with that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And they're like, if we're not gonna draft them as
our starting quarterback, we don't want to deal with that.
We don't want to backup quarterback to have ten reporters
around their locker every day. No, it becomes a distraction.
So I do understand that, Like there's there's a parameters
for depending on where you're gonna fit in, and you
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don't want the distraction. So I do understand that it
makes sense to me, and I don't have an issue
with victim of success and acclaim that is the problem.
Sometimes you're so good, or you're doing things something so
unique and so different. These are the conversations we start
to have, right, And this is my biggest point here too.
Fan bases that are bigger than simply the sport or
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the athleticism. Rod they bring extra pr and extra conversations
that America ain't ready for, or that leagues and advertisers
don't want to have.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
You brought up Tim Tebow. Well, if he was just
a good college football player, we've had hundreds, right. No,
it's that he brings his faith with him in conversations
about that, and then it becomes a thing, Well, we
don't want them to talk about it. We don't want
to do that, and it becomes more than just simply, oh,
he's a good college football player, right.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It becomes more than that Caitlyn Clark, right.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Because he because he was knealing that football games, right,
Nobody seemed to have a problem with that, right though,
Because then that that crowd is like I'm only.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Here for football? What was THEX?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Tim Tebow is not only there for football, you know,
and the TOEW fans all the time. Uh brush cancer
awareness a great cause. But if you're saying you.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Only hear only football, military military, military days.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Only people out and all this what what what I
talk about here?
Speaker 6 (16:55):
For final We only we cherry picked when we want
to hear. You know, It's it's called confirmation biased and
echo chambers. I only want to hear what I want
to hear. So this is my thing with this is
what I'm saying now. With like Caitlyn Clark. Kaitlyn Clark,
it ain't just about man, she's pretty good. She's averaging
like twenty and ten. Oh, with her, it comes all
the extra things. It comes, the racial things her and
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Angel Reeves going on. It comes, Oh, is the WNBA
bullying her?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It comes?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Should she be it's Middle America and versus you know,
bigger cities, and she's so the Iowa and the Indiana.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
And so when you get these athletes that bring so
many things more than just the athleticism or the game
in which they play, the style in which they play,
this is where it happens. If it's Muhammad Muhammad Ali.
It ain't just he's a great boxer, I like him
or I don't like It's that he's speaking about his faith.
It's speaking up for black in America, speaking about the
rights of all people in America, and so people aren't
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ready for that, him having criticisms of America. We ain't
ready for that. So Caitlyn Clark, because she's not just
she's a good basketball player. And this is what teams
aren't prepared for. Their pr rob ain't ready for this.
The league isn't ready for some of these conversations that
you have to have with these types of athletes that
bring other conversations. Advertisers, Hey, we don't want to be
associated with that, or we don't always have to answer
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these questions, or we don't always want to have to
put up with that, and this is what you getting and.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Then you do it, then you could grieve me on that.
Just the idea of that they don't want to deal
with him. Was it if he had Andrew luck talent?
They were like, well, you know what.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Is right, but when you're already okay, you're good, and
we know you're good, but that's not the is the
lemon is the juice worth to squeeze And I think
sometimes in his case, now we don't want all that
extra stuff. Give you a great example, Michael Vick, They're like, no, man,
he's worth all that because they knew they being the Eagles,
we're gonna get out for a year and a half,
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two year. People making fun, but they're like, man, we
know he can play. And he ended up being Comeback
Player of the Year. He put up crazy numbers that
he put up. Those numbers he put up for seven
eight years, it'd have been in the Hall of Fame.
So they felt it was worth it when it had
Michael Vick and auto criticism that would come with it.
The only thing I also say with the Caitlin Clark
in the Olympics is it goes to show that what
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we're talking about the fan base is so crazy because
Christian Latner made the team when you go back to
the ninety two because they wanted just and there's several
people that were like, oh, that should have been, could
have been Isaiah Thomas, could have been another NBA, could
have been a pro and but because he didn't come
with all of that other stuff on her level, we
kind of ah that's kind of whack that he why
rather be somebody else and he ain't even that good
compared to the pros ah and we moved on. But
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with her, it's a big conversation. I still think they
had missed an opportunity to put her on.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
No, I get it, I really do.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I understand it though, because I understand it wouldn't have
been happy and then all of the attention on the
Olympic team would be about her and how.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
She's not playing on Diana and other great players. That's
what they didn't want.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And I'm saying that it's I understand the thinking.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I do.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I still think I toltally.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I still think they missed an opportunity though, with all
that being said, because to me, it was a global
stage to continue to grow women's game and have more
people watching it. And I still think they missed that,
and you just have to bear with what comes with it.
But I do think they missed a boat not putting
her on the team.
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Speaker 6 (20:24):
Well, you and I talk about something all the time
that I think is relevant in this situation that I
wanted to throw at you. Did you hear about the
the NFL in the NFL had to find a concealing
collusion findings, And essentially, if you recall, there was the
NFLPA had made that case that they believe there's some
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clusion about after Deshaun Watson got all that money two
hundred and thirty guaranteed that now you had, they were
colluding to not pay guaranteed money to a handful of quarterbacks.
It was Kyler Murray, was Lamar Jackson, it was some
other players as well. So there's all of a sudden,
we just find out that there was a hearing where
the NFLPA in the NFL came together, they had a
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meeting and said, hey, they find out there was some
evidence that there was collusion, but the NFLPA never told
the players. Rob And so this goes to something you
and I have talked about so many times, how the
NFLPA does wrong by the players.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's embarrassing how the NFLPA does not have the interest
of the players at hand. So listen to this, Rob.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
So they find out thing Arbor Raider that January fourteen
that they ruled that there was I'm sorry that they
found out that their NFL showed a clear preponderance of
the evidence and that there was something going on that
they were colluding. Did not have to play this ton
of guaranteed money to the players. The players never heard
about it until it came out this past Tuesday, Rob
six months. The players didn't know about this, you know,
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how mean players are, Hey, what's going on here? Why
did I get this money? Agents call it? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And they didn't know?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
And I liking this rob to the fact that the NFL,
to me has reminded us over and over that it's
kind of like alcohol, where you know it ain't good
for you. You know it has a chance to kill.
You know, it's something I shall probably do it this
much and consume it this much. But dango is fun, dang,
and I enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Dang. It makes things a little bit better.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
And that's how I think we are with the NFL,
because every full handful of years they remind us that
they actually don't care about the players, that they actually
don't care about the things that they're promoting that they do,
and they just and it's blatant. Right, we got the
concussion stuff. They ignore the evidence to hide it. Then
they lose the case. They seven hundred seven hundred and
sixty five million. They have to give the players, current
and ex players, and now we hear about players dying
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who aren't getting the money and they're not distributing the money.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
But I don't even blame the NFL if you can
get away with it. The players scre it. I mean,
you think they giving us, You think.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
They're given a commission of forty million dollars because because
he's not bringing the players in or he's not getting
the job done that they want. Like it's terrible, I mean,
it's it's embarrassing. Over and over all the NFL does
is brag about how much money it makes and yet
it doesn't take care of player.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No health care.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, the healthcare package is embarrassing. It is five years
after you retire, you get five years of coverage. So
the average career is three years, three and a half years.
So you're retiring it from the NFL twenty eight, twenty nine.
You wait till you're thirty four, then you get five
years from thirty four to thirty nine and then you're.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
On your own. Then you're on your on the most
violent sport that we have. But that's when you need healthcare.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Now, when you're thirty, twenty nine, twenty eight, you know
what I mean, for the most part, you're usually.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
At your healthiest. I mean, come on, it's embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
So this confidentiality, the agreement they had kept all the details.
Like I mentioned, it was a sixty page ruling. They
kept the secret to Poblo. Pablo Torri found us out
and he was talking about it. But now it's out there.
And as again as I mentioned yesterday, and so now
you have again the NFL is trying to backped The
NFLPA players are upset about this. You have people like, yo,
(24:02):
what what the heck? Why won't they if I'm Lamar Jackson,
as I mentioned just moments ago, who's the best player
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And it don't even shock me. It's it's embarrassing. It
doesn't make any sense, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
And you just look at this again, I just have
all this list of things that the NFL doesn't and
then mention you can get away to why won't you?
But you cover up what the CTE consualming I mentioned
that seven hundred and the other one.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I'll tell you the other one.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
When they had a settlement uh with the NFL, the
original deal that they broke they had with the NFL.
The arbitrator sent it back to judge said it wasn't
enough money. Like like normally a judge is robber stamp.
You have two sides, you agree on a number. What
is the judge? Stop the judge. You're both happy, Okay,
(24:46):
let's go rubber stamp. The judge was like, no, no, no,
take the it's not enough money. That the whole union
should have been fired on the spot. If a judge
on an arbitrary arbitration says it's not enough money, how
did you negotiate that?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So, I mean you just look at so many of
the issues the NFLPA has had. Man.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
We talk about the concussion issues and how they didn't
handle that. We talk about the fact that they as
you just mentioned that one there, when they didn't want
to get in the money. They've had internal conflicts with
disciplinary actions with the NFL where they're not standing up
for the players, they're kind of siding with the league
on certain things. So it's just interesting to me, Rob
that something like this can happen when you're supposed to
(25:27):
be looking out for you. You're the Players Association looking
out for them, and you and I sit up here
and always talk about you know who's got it right.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
MLB.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
You can say whatever you want. The Players Union, they
don't mess around. They don't mess around because they say
we will stop games. You lose money, you lose fans.
They and they stopped the World Series. And the NFLPA
is playing in players' faces with stuff like this, hiding
for six months something that could be huge for the players,
huge for the players.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Everybody in the PA, NFLPA should be fire like immediately.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
It's doing the world six months they sat on this
absolutely ridiculous
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Today was the Day one, or it may have been
Day two. I'm confused of the Big Twelve media days
because you know, it's like a.
Speaker 4 (00:34):
Week long event nowadays.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
And obviously Tom Obviously the big talking point, not just
for the Big Twelve but across college football is what
are we gonna do with nil? What are we gonna
do with the transfer portal? It's dominating the conversation, probably
even more so than the actual football itself or even
the college football playoff. Well, Colorado had football coach Dion
(00:59):
Sanders has a plan he thinks would fix this whole situation.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Take a listen.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
All you have to do is look at the playoffs
and see what those teams spent, and you understand during
their white end playoffs, it's kind of hard to compete
with somebody who's giving twenty five thirty million dollars during
freshman class. We're not complaining. And because all these coaches
are being a coach at butts often given the right
opportunity with the right players and play here and there,
you'll be there. But it's what's going on right now
(01:25):
don't make sense, and we want to say stuff, but
we're trying to be professional. But you're going to see
the same teams during that at the end and with
somebody who sneaks up in there. But the teams that
pays the more, pays the most is going.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
To be that in.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Dion Sanders, Hello, is this on? So you're calling for
a cap?
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Shame on Dion Sanders for being a hypocrite. Shame on you.
Did you call for a cap when the coaches were
making twenty million dollars eighteen million? Where was the coach's cap?
Is that fair? That Nick Sable was making a gazillion
dollar off the kids back? Where was that cap?
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Dion?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
How come you didn't call for this when your boys,
your kids were in college Shadoor? Why didn't Shador give
the money back and say, you know what, I'm just
playing for the hell of it.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
My dad's a former NFL player. We got loot.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I don't need money. I'm here to play football. Did
s your door take the money?
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Must be then? Okay, this is ludicris.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
The only people you want to punish are the players,
the actual product, Dion. Without the players, you can't coach,
you can't sell tickets. And I'm talking about the players
as a whole all people ever do and his evidence,
Who were the reporters sitting there and allowing him to
(02:55):
give the evidence that look at the teams who spent
the most money? They all in the Have the chief
teams changed?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
Has Ohio State all of a sudden become this team
that gets there every year? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:09):
They used to pay the kids under the table. Now
you gotta put the money on the table. It's the
same freaking teams. Give me the name, Deon, tell me
who paid a lot of money and got to the
college football playoffs? Who wouldn't have got there without the money.
He couldn't name you one because it's the same players. Hypocrisy,
(03:35):
take advantage of the students, of the kids of the players.
You know why, because they're not represented. There's no agent
or body to protect them. Always blame the kids, Dion,
How dare you You came up to bat once as
a Yankee.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
You know what he did.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He made the dollar sign in the batter's box. Fish
with the catch on the white sox took exception to it.
You remember it was about the money, wasn't it. This
is a fair market system this country. You know how
much you're worth, Dion. You're worth what someone's willing to
(04:15):
pay you, period. And if they don't want to pay
the kids the money, don't pay them, Dion. Go out
and do a grassroots and say I'm not giving out
any nil money. I'm gonna recruit kids who want to
play college football for nothing. Let's see how good of
a coach you are with those kids. What poppy cock
(04:37):
and boulder dash and utter nonsense, Dion. Come on, man,
I can't believe you would get on that soapbox and
deny kids a chance to earn money when these schools
are making millions of dollars off these kids back. This
whole nil was finally a chance to make some money
(04:58):
back after all these You want to go and look
at the kids. They ran out of college because they
got a free pizza or they got a tattoo in
exchange for a warm up. Come on, man, I'll never
sit down for this. I'll never accept it. Dion, how
could you? Terrible?
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Terrible? Don't be nick Saban, don't be like the old
white guys. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
I like football the way it used to be. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
It was good for the coaches and they made all
the money and the schools made all the money.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
And the kids made nothing. I will not go back
for that, ever, ever. Ever.
Speaker 6 (05:45):
Well, here's the thing. So usually you and I watched
the Ie couple. We differ on a lot of things.
A lot of what you just said I agree with
and I had written down and prepared to talk about.
So I'll try to take a couple different lanes with you, because,
to paraphrase a little bit of what you were just saying,
I had already planned to say, toothpastes out the tube.
We ain't going back right. One thing we know about it.
(06:05):
When money gets rolling, money ain't going back in.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
So the system is. System is where it is now,
and it gets you.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
Why it's not going back is because the NC doublea
rob They blew their chance to do this twenty twenty five,
thirty thirty five years ago, when people were really starting
to make a fuss about this, say, hey man, this
doesn't seem right. You got examples, Hey man, fab five guys.
Why are y'all penalizing? Hey man, Ohio State kids getting tattoos.
What's the big deal. They got a couple sign a
couple of things. They got some tattoos. What's the big deal.
(06:34):
And I used to call that identity theft. To me,
the NCUBA four decades had been participating in identity theft.
They stole the identity of players. One of my favorite
games going up rob was Coach k Basketball. Was like
it was so fun and you knew exactly who that was.
Back then it would be like the UCLA team with
the old Bannon brothers and Tyas Edney.
Speaker 4 (06:54):
Well, I know that's him. He's five foot eight, number
ten or whatever. That's Sias Edney.
Speaker 6 (06:58):
But yet it's everything about them, but it's not him,
and they can make the money off the back of him.
So to me, the NCAA have been practicing identity theft
for so long and gotten away with it. Now we
have created the wild, wild West, and this is a
result of it. And you know what happens when you
give leeway, when you finally open up the floodgates, eventually
you have to find back, get open up the parameters
and scale things back a little bit. So right now,
(07:19):
Dion Nick Saban, what we're dealing with is the floodgates opening.
Why we try to figure this thing out because rob
they were selfish the NCAA for decades.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
Now we're trying to figure this thing out. Can I
get I give you two numbers real quick? Chador's nil evaluation?
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What six point five million, which is two million dollars
more than the NFL contract he has with the Browns.
If Dion came and took Shador's money or or then
I would listen to you. If you told your kid
you were not making any money, we're gonna give the
money back or whatever or not take it. And Dion
is making five five year, fifty four million dollars. Coach
(07:59):
new Bridge Coloradson no money. So is there a coaches cap?
Come on, man, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6 (08:05):
And that's been an issue that we've we've all been
saying for years as coaches are making two five, six
ten million dollars.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Nick saban. Hold on, let me get this in front
of you. Rock this pretend this is.
Speaker 6 (08:16):
Is a coke having coke deals with when press conference
is so he puts the coke right there because he
can get a coke deal, but the players can't.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
Players.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
You know, they were high school players, high school players
who will lose their college eligibility because they get all
the shoes, hundreds of pairs of shoes from Nike under
arm and god forbid, they sold a couple of pair
to help mom with the light bills. They literally lost
their college eligibility. So my point is we're way past this.
Kids are finally reaping the benefits of this. And that's
just where it is. The only other thing I said,
(08:44):
because you, like I said, you touched on so many
points of that one thing, I will say, the transfer
portal that has made it where I don't want. And
this is just me looking at the young men becoming men,
and I think you can even appreciate where I'm going
with this. I don't mind the money and it say hey,
get it money. This is the capitalist society we live in.
The only thing I will say I don't want to
happen is where some young men rob they miss out
(09:08):
on the chance to grow from adversity.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Meaning you go to the school. Man, I don't like that.
I'm not starting.
Speaker 6 (09:15):
I'm going to the other school as opposed to sometimes, hey,
push through. You know this from our careers. Hey man,
sometimes you got to push through. Sometimes you got to
go through some things. Sometimes isn't easy. And I don't
want a lot of young men to lose, in young women,
to lose that opportunity to grow through adversity, to go
through some tough things just because that other school's offered
me twenty thousand dollars, they offer me forty thousand dollars.
Or I thought I was starting, but now I'm second
(09:36):
string cornerback. I don't want to wait, and I don't
want to work outwork this guy, you know what I mean.
That's my only other thing about that. I still want
kids to go through adversity, push through, and become better,
and I don't want them to always lean on Man,
this ain't working out. I want to go there, because kid,
you got something, going three four different schools in a
five year college career.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Because I don't like this. I don't like that money's
better over there.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
That will be my only one pause to this, but
the fact that they finally are making some money, and
not to mention rup, there's only a handful of kids.
You still got the right guard somewhere who ain't really
making nothing. So let's not act like this is a
every single person getting money. And I had it written
down here too, and you hit it. You can almost
see I wrote, same teams been winning, Sorry, the same
(10:23):
Alabama been good at usc s. You know, Michigan fell
off a little bit. Pop back up in order to like,
you're getting the same twenty schools. And if you put
a cap on it, fine, it'll be the same twenty
schools because most schools robed couldn't afford the cap except
for the same twenty twenty by schools.
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Speaker 3 (11:36):
She made her return to the court earlier today. As
you guys now, I know you never missed Gaitlan Clark games.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
Parts I'm I haven't seen one all year.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
I will say it was odd that she played at
like ten am Pacific.
Speaker 4 (11:47):
That was really weird.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
That was super awkward. But it wasn't a great performance
by her first game back from a groin injury. Ten points,
four to twelve, shooting, five rebound, six's is, four turnovers
and a blowboy loss. But to your point, the big
story coming into today's game was that new book by
Christine Brennan. She did a whole biography following Kaitlyn Clark,
her rise and her influence on the sporting world, not
(12:11):
just in basketball but in sports period, and one.
Speaker 8 (12:14):
Of them had a riff. I'm surprised she wrote this book.
Did you have a riff with him? I'm not sure.
I'll have to look into that. But one of the
excerpts that's getting a little run today involves Kaitlyn Clark
being snubbed from the Olympic team last summer. You'll recall
it was a big much ado about, hey, how are
you going to leave out the most popular women's basketball
(12:35):
player in America and leave her off Team USA?
Speaker 3 (12:38):
And according to Christine Brennan, while sourced in this book,
the reasoning was twofold number one. Of the twelve roster spots,
one of them was already reserved for Dana to Rozzie.
No matter what that, they wanted to give her a
chance to get the record breaking gold medal. So even
though there was twelve spots technically available, there was really
only eleven, but number two. Most importantly, you guys alluded
(13:01):
to it. The reason why, according to Christine Brennan, that
Kaitlyn Clark did not make the Team USA Olympic team
was nothing to do with her abilities, had everything to
do with what the Team USA decision makers deemed were
an unruly fan base. Specifically, they believed if they put
her on the roster and she did not play a
(13:22):
lot of minutes, which is kind of what happens on
the Olympic teams. You got so many good players not
a lot of minutes to go around that there would
have been backlash, There would have been negative feedback, negative comments,
and they just said, hey, we'd rather leave her off
altogether than deal with that.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And you know what, what I understand it, and we've
seen this. This is not a Caitlyn Clark thing. This
happened to Tim Tebow. He couldn't be a backup quarterback anywhere.
You remember he went to the Jets like because of
the fans, like, you don't want to deal with that.
What a backup quarterback is supposed to be seen, not heard,
(13:59):
And in her case, fans would not have accepted her
not playing.
Speaker 4 (14:04):
Remember Jason Tatum, he don't even have smoke like that.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
He didn't have a fan base like that, and people
were were worked up over him not getting any run. Right, Yeah,
he was the only American on a team like uh right,
Like like who was it wasn't he like all Pro
the only guy was American and he wasn't even on playing.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
So My point was.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
That I understand once they realize she's not going to
be the star that they want her to be, and
she's probably not going to be playing, and then all
the attention from the Olympics would be about what why
aren't they playing Caitlyn Clark? Oh they hate her all day,
blah blah blah blah blah, all that other stuff.
Speaker 4 (14:48):
I'll give you another one.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
That's why teams didn't want to draft Shador Sanders, because
you're gonna be a backup. Right here we go, how
old chadors? It replaces the starter? Oh, Shador, how come
we not playing? They're just trying to They got a
conspiracy in the NFL. They're trying to put a thumb
on Deon Sanders. This is racist, this is that. This
(15:12):
is all.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
You gotta deal with that.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
And they're like, if we're not gonna draft them as
our starting quarterback, we don't want to deal with that.
We don't want to backup quarterback to have ten reporters
around their locker every day. No, it becomes a distraction.
So I do understand that, Like there's there's a parameters
for depending on where you're gonna fit in, and you
(15:35):
don't want the distraction. So I do understand that it
makes sense to me, and I don't have an issue
with victim of success and acclaim that is the problem.
Sometimes you're so good, or you're doing things something so
unique and so different. These are the conversations we start
to have, right, And this is my biggest point here too.
Fan bases that are bigger than simply the sport or
(15:59):
the athleticism. Rod they bring extra pr and extra conversations
that America ain't ready for, or that leagues and advertisers
don't want to have.
Speaker 4 (16:07):
Here's what I mean.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
You brought up Tim Tebow. Well, if he was just
a good college football player, we've had hundreds, right. No,
it's that he brings his faith with him in conversations
about that, and then it becomes a thing, Well, we
don't want them to talk about it. We don't want
to do that, and it becomes more than just simply, oh,
he's a good college football player, right.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
It becomes more than that Caitlyn Clark, right.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
Because he because he was knealing that football games, right,
Nobody seemed to have a problem with that, right though,
Because then that that crowd is like I'm only.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Here for football? What was THEX?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Tim Tebow is not only there for football, you know,
and the TOEW fans all the time. Uh brush cancer
awareness a great cause. But if you're saying you.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Only hear only football, military military, military days.
Speaker 4 (16:52):
Only people out and all this what what what I
talk about here?
Speaker 6 (16:55):
For final We only we cherry picked when we want
to hear. You know, It's it's called confirmation biased and
echo chambers. I only want to hear what I want
to hear. So this is my thing with this is
what I'm saying now. With like Caitlyn Clark. Kaitlyn Clark,
it ain't just about man, she's pretty good. She's averaging
like twenty and ten. Oh, with her, it comes all
the extra things. It comes, the racial things her and
(17:16):
Angel Reeves going on. It comes, Oh, is the WNBA
bullying her?
Speaker 1 (17:20):
All?
Speaker 4 (17:21):
It comes?
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Should she be it's Middle America and versus you know,
bigger cities, and she's so the Iowa and the Indiana.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
And so when you get these athletes that bring so
many things more than just the athleticism or the game
in which they play, the style in which they play,
this is where it happens. If it's Muhammad Muhammad Ali.
It ain't just he's a great boxer, I like him
or I don't like It's that he's speaking about his faith.
It's speaking up for black in America, speaking about the
rights of all people in America, and so people aren't
(17:50):
ready for that, him having criticisms of America. We ain't
ready for that. So Caitlyn Clark, because she's not just
she's a good basketball player. And this is what teams
aren't prepared for. Their pr rob ain't ready for this.
The league isn't ready for some of these conversations that
you have to have with these types of athletes that
bring other conversations. Advertisers, Hey, we don't want to be
associated with that, or we don't always have to answer
(18:11):
these questions, or we don't always want to have to
put up with that, and this is what you getting and.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Then you do it, then you could grieve me on that.
Just the idea of that they don't want to deal
with him. Was it if he had Andrew luck talent?
They were like, well, you know what.
Speaker 6 (18:26):
Is right, but when you're already okay, you're good, and
we know you're good, but that's not the is the
lemon is the juice worth to squeeze And I think
sometimes in his case, now we don't want all that
extra stuff. Give you a great example, Michael Vick, They're like, no, man,
he's worth all that because they knew they being the Eagles,
we're gonna get out for a year and a half,
(18:48):
two year. People making fun, but they're like, man, we
know he can play. And he ended up being Comeback
Player of the Year. He put up crazy numbers that
he put up. Those numbers he put up for seven
eight years, it'd have been in the Hall of Fame.
So they felt it was worth it when it had
Michael Vick and auto criticism that would come with it.
The only thing I also say with the Caitlin Clark
in the Olympics is it goes to show that what
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we're talking about the fan base is so crazy because
Christian Latner made the team when you go back to
the ninety two because they wanted just and there's several
people that were like, oh, that should have been, could
have been Isaiah Thomas, could have been another NBA, could
have been a pro and but because he didn't come
with all of that other stuff on her level, we
kind of ah that's kind of whack that he why
rather be somebody else and he ain't even that good
compared to the pros ah and we moved on. But
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with her, it's a big conversation. I still think they
had missed an opportunity to put her on.
Speaker 4 (19:37):
No, I get it, I really do.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I understand it though, because I understand it wouldn't have
been happy and then all of the attention on the
Olympic team would be about her and how.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
She's not playing on Diana and other great players. That's
what they didn't want.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And I'm saying that it's I understand the thinking.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
I do.
Speaker 4 (19:55):
I still think I toltally.
Speaker 6 (19:57):
I still think they missed an opportunity though, with all
that being said, because to me, it was a global
stage to continue to grow women's game and have more
people watching it. And I still think they missed that,
and you just have to bear with what comes with it.
But I do think they missed a boat not putting
her on the team.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
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Speaker 6 (20:24):
Well, you and I talk about something all the time
that I think is relevant in this situation that I
wanted to throw at you. Did you hear about the
the NFL in the NFL had to find a concealing
collusion findings, And essentially, if you recall, there was the
NFLPA had made that case that they believe there's some
(20:44):
clusion about after Deshaun Watson got all that money two
hundred and thirty guaranteed that now you had, they were
colluding to not pay guaranteed money to a handful of quarterbacks.
It was Kyler Murray, was Lamar Jackson, it was some
other players as well. So there's all of a sudden,
we just find out that there was a hearing where
the NFLPA in the NFL came together, they had a
(21:06):
meeting and said, hey, they find out there was some
evidence that there was collusion, but the NFLPA never told
the players. Rob And so this goes to something you
and I have talked about so many times, how the
NFLPA does wrong by the players.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
It's embarrassing how the NFLPA does not have the interest
of the players at hand. So listen to this, Rob.
Speaker 6 (21:30):
So they find out thing Arbor Raider that January fourteen
that they ruled that there was I'm sorry that they
found out that their NFL showed a clear preponderance of
the evidence and that there was something going on that
they were colluding. Did not have to play this ton
of guaranteed money to the players. The players never heard
about it until it came out this past Tuesday, Rob
six months. The players didn't know about this, you know,
(21:52):
how mean players are, Hey, what's going on here? Why
did I get this money? Agents call it? What's going on?
Speaker 4 (21:57):
And they didn't know?
Speaker 6 (21:58):
And I liking this rob to the fact that the NFL,
to me has reminded us over and over that it's
kind of like alcohol, where you know it ain't good
for you. You know it has a chance to kill.
You know, it's something I shall probably do it this
much and consume it this much. But dango is fun, dang,
and I enjoy it.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
Dang. It makes things a little bit better.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
And that's how I think we are with the NFL,
because every full handful of years they remind us that
they actually don't care about the players, that they actually
don't care about the things that they're promoting that they do,
and they just and it's blatant. Right, we got the
concussion stuff. They ignore the evidence to hide it. Then
they lose the case. They seven hundred seven hundred and
sixty five million. They have to give the players, current
and ex players, and now we hear about players dying
(22:39):
who aren't getting the money and they're not distributing the money.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Now.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
But I don't even blame the NFL if you can
get away with it. The players scre it. I mean,
you think they giving us, You think.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
They're given a commission of forty million dollars because because
he's not bringing the players in or he's not getting
the job done that they want. Like it's terrible, I mean,
it's it's embarrassing. Over and over all the NFL does
is brag about how much money it makes and yet
it doesn't take care of player.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
No health care.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
No, the healthcare package is embarrassing. It is five years
after you retire, you get five years of coverage. So
the average career is three years, three and a half years.
So you're retiring it from the NFL twenty eight, twenty nine.
You wait till you're thirty four, then you get five
years from thirty four to thirty nine and then you're.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
On your own. Then you're on your on the most
violent sport that we have. But that's when you need healthcare.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Now, when you're thirty, twenty nine, twenty eight, you know
what I mean, for the most part, you're usually.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
At your healthiest. I mean, come on, it's embarrassed.
Speaker 6 (23:41):
So this confidentiality, the agreement they had kept all the details.
Like I mentioned, it was a sixty page ruling. They
kept the secret to Poblo. Pablo Torri found us out
and he was talking about it. But now it's out there.
And as again as I mentioned yesterday, and so now
you have again the NFL is trying to backped The
NFLPA players are upset about this. You have people like, yo,
(24:02):
what what the heck? Why won't they if I'm Lamar Jackson,
as I mentioned just moments ago, who's the best player
in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
And it don't even shock me. It's it's embarrassing. It
doesn't make any sense, you know.
Speaker 5 (24:13):
What I mean.
Speaker 6 (24:14):
And you just look at this again, I just have
all this list of things that the NFL doesn't and
then mention you can get away to why won't you?
But you cover up what the CTE consualming I mentioned
that seven hundred and the other one.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
I'll tell you the other one.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
When they had a settlement uh with the NFL, the
original deal that they broke they had with the NFL.
The arbitrator sent it back to judge said it wasn't
enough money. Like like normally a judge is robber stamp.
You have two sides, you agree on a number. What
is the judge? Stop the judge. You're both happy, Okay,
(24:46):
let's go rubber stamp. The judge was like, no, no, no,
take the it's not enough money. That the whole union
should have been fired on the spot. If a judge
on an arbitrary arbitration says it's not enough money, how
did you negotiate that?
Speaker 4 (25:02):
So, I mean you just look at so many of
the issues the NFLPA has had. Man.
Speaker 6 (25:06):
We talk about the concussion issues and how they didn't
handle that. We talk about the fact that they as
you just mentioned that one there, when they didn't want
to get in the money. They've had internal conflicts with
disciplinary actions with the NFL where they're not standing up
for the players, they're kind of siding with the league
on certain things. So it's just interesting to me, Rob
that something like this can happen when you're supposed to
(25:27):
be looking out for you. You're the Players Association looking
out for them, and you and I sit up here
and always talk about you know who's got it right.
Speaker 4 (25:34):
MLB.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
You can say whatever you want. The Players Union, they
don't mess around. They don't mess around because they say
we will stop games. You lose money, you lose fans.
They and they stopped the World Series. And the NFLPA
is playing in players' faces with stuff like this, hiding
for six months something that could be huge for the players,
huge for the players.
Speaker 4 (25:55):
It's absolutely terrible.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Everybody in the PA, NFLPA should be fire like immediately.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
It's doing the world six months they sat on this
absolutely ridiculous
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