July 14, 2025 • 36 mins
Former All-Pro safety Kerry Rhodes is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin tell us why they have no problem with Patrick Mahomes being listed as the best quarterback in football even after two down years, discuss which potential landing spots make the most sense for LeBron James if he decides to ask out of Los Angeles, and explain why they have a big issue with anonymous NFL execs/coaches ranking Jayden Daniels ahead of Jalen Hurts.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
There's a conversation where you had some NFL execs and
coaches and also some scouts as well, and they do
this annually and they rank the top players.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
But they kind of go position by position.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So we start, of course with quarterbacks and they more
than seventy anonymous. Like we mentioned coaches and execks and scouts.
I'll get into this, and they get down to the
top ten. So the last few years, the number one
has been Patrick Mahomes. But will there be changes this year?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Drum roll no, ain't no changes, ain't no.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Patrick Mahomes is number one again. However a little bit
of controversy. He is his lead. The gap has lessened.
The gap is slimmer because you got guys keep creeping
up on them. So it goes like this number one Mahomes.
Number two, Josh Allen, you have Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson.
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Number five is where it gets interesting to me. Jade
and Daniels, Yes, and then so on. We'll go down
the long list a little bit later on, but I
want to start with this Patrick Mahomes. Part of the
reason if you read the article, some execs says, which
is kind of how I felt.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And I had to argue with Rob last year. His
numbers weren't great.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
If I just told you a guy had twenty eight
and eleven, I mean, that's solid, you know, But if
I told you Patrick Mahomes, but I wanted a little
bit better on your hat right now, you have a goat,
and he was a legit person competing to be the goat.
Those aren't goat like numbers. So this is my thing
that I pointed out that some of these anonymous scouts
and gyms and all that pointed out as well. His
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offensive line was bad. He was running around for his life. Also,
his wide receivers, as we know it decimated with injuries.
So he was making the best out of what he had.
You know, sometimes mama ain't have everything, but she gonna
make the best of what she had. We gonna eat
and we're gonna eat good again, and in this case
that's him winning to the tune of fifteen and two.
So that was one of the things pointed out. But
also they said, other guys getting better. Yep, some said
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Joe Burrows and playing the best football last couple sear.
Some guys said lamar Jay, you know, so on and so
forth down the line.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So my thing with this is when it comes to
Patrick Mahomes, it's really difficult to kind of explain because
me and Robb g were discussing this. Patrick Mahomes has
done something that every ten to fifteen years a guy
will do in a sport, and it'll happen in other
sports only maybe twenty twenty five years, where we have
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a handful of guys who have done this. Carrie, I
think you'll feel me. Patrick Mahomes isn't rare air. Patrick
Mahomes is in the as of recent NBA wise Lebron
Tiger Woods with golf, Serena Williams, Tennis Tom Brady playing
the same position in the same league in the NFL,
And what that is is, at a certain point they
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had so much winning and they did it early, or
at least in a certain span of years, and they dominated.
And so they had the numbers, they had the wins,
and they did it in a unique style that was
different that all of a sudden in your psyche, well,
they're just gonna win. And there was a period in
time where Lebron was just that guy, He's gonna win MVP.
If I said, hey, who's gonna win this series? You know,
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you say, I gotta go with Lebron and he might lose,
and just like Patrick Holmes has lost in Super Bowls,
but you're like, I'm going with that guy. Even when
Tiger Woods started to get banged up a little bit
started to be a little less than he was. If
I said, who are you putting the money on his
turn this in the US Open? Who'd have Tiger Woods?
Who'd you putting the money on Augusta Serena Williams has
a baby, comes back, she's don her best shape, she's
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trying to work it out, she has some injuries. If
I said, hell, but who you got who's winning the
Australian Open. Serena Williams, Tom Brady, he's in his forties,
he's this, he's trying to figure out out he's eating
avocado ice cream. And if I said who you got
to win, you say Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes has
gotten to that point because I get that year by
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year he hasn't been the best player. Yes, for the
last few years, last couple of years in particular, season
by season, I get the last couple of years. You
can look at other guys' numbers. They're doing it more dazzling,
more beautifully style of football.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's more spectacular to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They're blowing people out regularly, routinely, where he was ekeing
by people off last year.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But when it comes down.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
To it, it is difficult for me to put any
of them in a position where I would pick them
over him in a game, in a meaningful game, if
it's a playoff game, a super Bowl game, and going
up against and now the other guys are in his division.
But let's just say in the playoff game, I can't
pick against or not his division is conference, I can't
pick against him. And that's a credit to the run
he had, the run of Lebron had, the run of Brady,
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the run of attacker where you're like until I see
otherwise routinely. I gotta go with the guy that routinely
is in the Super Bowl, win, loser, draw routinely there
routinely fifteen and two. Yeah, I mean, and everything you
said is correct, it's right, I feel, Yeah, the Stallion
Klay Thompson girlfriend. But there is a butt right because
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he went in by the way undred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
No, you got one hundred percent. Like everything you said
is right.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
But there is a level of the expectations that we
have been accustomed to expecting from Patrick Mahomes, the level
of play, the things that he does. When he first
came to the league, a lot of the stuff he
was doing was unorthodox, right for a guy that was winning. Yeah,
And I think and I think that part of it
was cool to see the aesthetics of it. You mean
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this the aesthetics the way he played. I mean, obviously
when he first started he couldn't read defense as well either.
He was out there winging that yeah, and it was
fall and it was beautiful to see. So you have
seen the evolution of his game from the first year
he started to where he is now. Right now, they
have caught up to him. Those top four that were
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named on any given day, they can be the.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Best quarterback in the league. I don't disagree.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
And that's the point, right, So when you make these
lists and you make a concrete number one, this is
the number one guy, there's always an asterisk behind it
because obviously that's attributed to team success. If he was
in Lamar Jackson's position at four, putting up the numbers
that Lamar is putting up, winning the MVPs and all
the things that.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
He's been doing.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And not getting the wins, would he still be number one?
As and when you think of wins, that's a team thing.
It's not just him. Obviously, he's the head of the snake.
And you can make that argument what you just said,
what you just eloquently said, and it can be true.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But on the flip side of that.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
If Lamar's team has let him down, and I'm not
saying that's always been the case, Lamar hasn't always played
well in big playoff games either, But if the roles
was switch, would he be one and Patrick mahons before?
I think that's my argument, right, So when you make
these lists, especially coming off recent history, the last couple
of years, it's been clear that there's been quarterback played
better than Patrick mhaundry. So why can you concretely say
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that he's number one? And that's always my tip, and
I don't think anything of any of these are concrete.
It's just why I think a big yet.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But I think that so when you start to poll
people and then the way they put the rankings in
power or this guy got more votes, he got more
first play votes. You know, they do all the metrics
in the numbers. I don't think it's concrete. I think
he got sixty percent of the number one votes this
time around, So it wasn't like a blowout where That's
why I say it wasn't concrete. And I do think
you know, if you read through some of their points,
that was just what you said, Hey, yo, Joe Burrow.
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They said he has been the big lead. Some of
them said that his his footwork is timing is completion
percentage at seventy percent. They were saying, like, you know,
he's kind of the guy. Others would say, oh, look
look at what Josh Allen is just a whole different
beast to size and speed of athleticism. But I think
what the common and dominator is Carrie. I will go, yeah,
that's cool. Yeah, I hear you. Yep, yeah, Well they're
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lining up this Sunday AFC title game. Who you got
and that's been proven and that's the thing that that's
why he's the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know, we'll talk later on some more of his
lifts and maybe even a little bit further on here.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, there's more to be dissect.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think about Lamar Jackson because I've been saying something
about Lamar Jackson for an entire year that I've been
doing this odd couple. And I know you've been here
for days that I've said it, and I know you
echo the same sentiments about how great he's been. But
I do think there's something too why he's on his list.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
This is the second year in a row that Lamar
Jackson has been four. So we'll get into that a
little because I can see why you feel like you
want to go off. It's the first segment. You're trying
to be nice. He already know alright, just you know,
because hey, hey Rob g Joe Burrow don't exist with Carrie.
I ain't hear it, No, he does, he does. I
love Joe, I said, you said to Petrimhomes. Anyway, let
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me tell you about Lamar. If we flip flopped the
flop of the flips, Yeah, why wouldn't Patrick because Lamar?
Yeah yeah, I mean you are here and you're the
embodiment of uh yeah, you are the You're the embodiment
of Rob Parker right now. I feel like he's here
right now. Do you feel that that's the only black
quarterback you like?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Is Lamar? I got some more because we gotta go
on that list some more, but we'll come back. We'll
get a little bit more and none of this.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But that's my big takeaway is that it's a credit
to Patrick Mahomes and the success he had. You just
talked about the style of play, the flair, the hair,
the winning and I remember the Super Bowl run they made.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Against the Niners.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
He was down ten points in every single game and
all of us went, yeah, they probably gonna still win.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I don't know I feel that way about Lamar. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I feel that way about Josh Allen And I'm you know,
obviously it's a game by game meeting.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I have to see it. Are they down ten early
and they got a whole forty five minutes last? Okay?
Cool is it?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But I'm just saying Patrick Mahomes was the only guy.
We're like, how much time left, thirteen seconds against the bill,
whatever it was. Oh, for sure, Yes he can still
win this. And he reminds me of Steph Curry. Steph Curry,
last point here we got to break. Steph Curry is
the only shot. This is when I get into arguments
with Rob No, I know you never made a game Okay,
he's not made one game winner that you like. Yeah,
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but he's made every other shot I've ever seen. He's
the first person has n't going up to get a drink,
going up to get some chips and guac real quick
with four seconds left, three seconds left on the clock,
two seconds left on the clock, and he's got to
go to full length of the court. He's the only
person in the history of NBA posital hold on, he's
shooting from that free throw line all the way over there,
and you stop, carry rose, don't you hold on? There's
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a chance they thing might go in. Steph Curry is
the only player. And Patrick Mahomes has a little bit
of that where you're like, hold on this.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's done.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Let me see him even in the Super Bowl, You're like,
all right, if they get a stump here, there might
be something to this.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
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Speaker 3 (11:34):
Speaking of Lebron and those four teams, So, according to
Scoop who got the Scoop, there are four teams who
have reached out and have some interest in Lebron, one
in particular, I'm gonna leave last because it irks you.
So we have the Cavs because that's the I'm coming home.
I'm coming it makes sense. So there you got the Warriors,
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you have the Clippers, and then you have.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm sorry the maths. I'm sorry. Why did you have
to say it again? Sorry? Some people might be excited.
I don't know. Maybe you're not excited. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But those are the kind of the teams that have
reached out and have some interest in getting Lebron. We know,
let's just kind of give a little back stories of
things that we've known. Yeah, Brian Winhurst supporting that in
Mona Shellburn that the team and Lebron aren't seeing ey eye,
that there's some distance between them. We know for a
fact that you just kind of see all the tour
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he's been on, he's been played, he's been in Cleveland. Yeah,
he's been here. He hasn't text DeAndre eight and we
heard from DeAndre said him as of when he was
he's signed. Now, if anything's happened since then, we don't know.
But as of that time, the team hasn't put out
a we're so glad Lebron opted in.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
We're woo woo woo, We're excited.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
We haven't heard from that, which typically you get, right, Yeah,
even if it's just two sentences, happy he's opted in.
Looking forward to this season, we haven't gotten any of that.
So that's kind of as the precursor to where we
are and why there would be interested and why Lebron
feels a bit slided is what the reporting is that
you know from the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
You know what's funny, what's that this is the first
time I think in Lebron's career that he's been on
the outside looking in. It's an uncomfortable situation. A guy
that's always been in the know since his rookie year, right,
I think we can safely say he's had the backing
of every team and every GM and every owner he's
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been a part of. This is a new regime. This
isn't even the regime that he's familiar with, right, this
is a new regime. So for them to even you know,
try to accommodate him right now or make him feel
better for you know, his ego feel better with a tweet, Sam,
We're happy he's back. Like, I don't think they're in
the business of Lebron, right, They're in the business of Luca,
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and I think that's very evident. But it's it's funny
how all that stuff like life comes at you fool
like like full a steam ahead, really quickly totally been
in the control of everything and all the moves that's
happened around you to now being left out and now
your ego not being pleased the way that you want.
Now you want to shop around and have your boys
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say you want to be moved or you're available, and
have these things and not come out and say them directly.
It's just it's it's Lebron's brand, and it's it's for me.
It's kind of ironic that he's in this situation.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, I want to go back to someone that you
just talk about the new regime, so we know they
have the the the group that ow was the Dodgers
now is the owner of the Lakers, and I think
there's been a mutual benefit. Sometimes in life, things worked
out for the both of us. Now there was left
more left to be desired. Talking about the Laker of
the marriage between the Lakers and Lebron, you wanted more,
Maybe you wanted another ring. Maybe you at least got
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to the finals one or two morey, maybe we didn't
win it, but we got there. Maybe you want an
MVP on our watch, something you know you wanted a
little bit more. But if you look at the marriage,
I think both teams can both parties can go. You know,
at least, hey, it was pretty beneficial. ROGI, you're a
Laker fan. The Lakers the last five six years with
Kobe horrid.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
He was bad.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
He was broken. It wasn't as fun. He's broken down.
It was a lot going on. He was missing games.
The team wasn't good. They didn't have a lot of
great players. That's just a fact. I'm not being funny
that every year to begin a new pick number two,
deand rusts the number two Big again Linzo, number seven,
Big Jalius random brandon ingram Like. It wasn't good. That's
why they got accumulated on his young talent because they
weren't good. So to be relevant because of Lebron at
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least relevant, at least competent. You missed the playoffs twice,
only twice you won a ring. You made a Western
Conference final. He has the all time leading scorer on
your watch. Watch this too. You had the perfect statesman,
and I mean this sincerely, to handle Kobe Bryant's death.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Right. He was the one out there was speaking. He
spoke eloquently.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was one of the times it felt kind of
from the heart it didn't really feel rehearsed with Lebron.
It kind of just felt like real deal, raw motion.
And then now that's why when people's oll the bubble ring,
I'm like, dude, they won that the year for Kobe,
everybody kind of goes straight to bubble. I go, this
was the year Kobe pass and the ain't kind of viole.
We're gonna win for him, for him, and they did that. Yeah,
that's amazing to me. And you were able to have that.
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Not only did we the Lakers win it, we want
it and honoring our guy maybe arguably the greatest Laker
of all time. Some would say magic. It's very generational Kobe.
So Lebron, you got to be in LA you have
to be close to Hollywood. You got to do all
the business. One thing you want to do. You gotta
want a championship.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You got.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
They got all the clutch guys you ever want. Who
you want, what clutch guys you want? Okay, great, you
want to play with your son, cool, We got that.
You want different coaches. Cool got that they traded the
young Corps, all those guys they accumulated. So to me,
it's a mutual benefit and it's just time to move on.
And I think that's okay. Right now, you start to
wonder what's the best fit. I look at this two ways, Carrie.
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The Clippers are the best fit in that he gets
to stay directly in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
We know how much that means to him.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
His kids are in school here, well, his daughter, you know,
you know, his son is obviously still playing with the Lakers.
So we're playing a hypothetic. If they swore to happen,
what matches? So I would say the Clippers. And here's why.
For the clip number one, if you're still keeping the core,
you might have to trade James hard and obviously for
some money. He's to kind of match and you have
to move another piece here. But if I have Kawhi,
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I've got Zubach, we got Lebron, you got some other
pieces around there. He's still in LA he doesn't have
to travel. You got a guy that you can kind
of say, all right, Kawhi goes down some games, we
got him still here. He can play well. So that
kind of fits and makes sense in that regard. But
the one that's really interesting to me, don't you do it?
I'm not gonna do it. It's the Warriors. Okay, there
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you go. I'll tell you why why Lebron has been
on a campaign like he was like one of these
presidential you know candidates. Man, I just g Gotti Schucks.
I love to play with Steph Man. You know who
I love to play with Steph? Ask me who I
like to play with?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Kerry? Who would you like to play with?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Steph Kurry? I love to play with Steph Kurry. In
the Olympics, it was so correct to play with Steph.
Oh step step step I mean he is like dang,
Steph is like whoa. So he gets to play with Steph.
He gets to stay on the West Coast where he's
gonna play the Lakers four time. He played the Clippers
four times, you meaning staying on here. You get to
play the Kings four times, so you're here, yeah, the
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Suns four times. Still really close to LA just a
quick forty five minute flight our flight max.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
So you get to stay there. You get to compete
with the team.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And I think it will be the last dance, if
you will, for Steve Kerr and Stephan I don't mean
the last year, but this is their last little go.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
The next couple of years, right.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And Lebron and you get to compete, you get to
play with him, we get to all seed.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It's great for the NBA. Be fun.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And my last point why I think you would love
to do that because if for some odd reason they
were to mess around and win. Steph, you got five,
I got five. You ain't got one up on me.
You ain't got one.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Up on me. That sounds like Lebron. We both have five.
It dang it.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
People have me rank higher than you right now. But
if you mess around and got a fifth, then I didn't.
Maybe now some people want to you know, oh man,
he got five ones with Lebron's watching all that. Yeah,
you gotta hold on, brother, you gotta sit with me.
Either we both losing. Oh, we both winning and we
got five? We right got free? We got five. No,
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it's funny you said.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The Clippers though that that would be intriguing just from
the standpoint of having those two legends play together, and
obviously their styles of play would fit seamlessly. I mean,
they both do everything at a really high level. And
what what The perfect teammate for Lebron always has been
the guy that can shoot the ball, right, got that
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can space it. Whenever you construct the team around him,
you're trying to get shooters around him. Right, So the
ultimate shooter, the best shooter of all time on this
team would obviously be so exciting the sas just a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
He would just find stuff. It would be crazy. Yeah,
it'd be crazy.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
But again I think, obviously we look at these four teams,
and if you have to choose between these four teams,
I do like the Golden State one the most, just
for the intrigue of it. But for me, like I said,
Lebron needs stick this thing out and ride it down
with the Lakers, and the.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Best fit is actually with the MAVs. You just don't.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You tried to No, no, no, you just don't want
to hear. Okay, wait wait why did he say this's
a homecoming? Why do you say that Kyrie gets to
come back play Kyrie?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know Kyrie was on his Lebron little to remember.
You know, I just realized I was too young. I
didn't understand what I had. I didn't appreciate him. And
Lebron have been a spoon Coons since then, and they've
been cool, and we had Scoop again. Scoop by joined
us last hour. He was saying he got some inside
traction that they had had a phone conversation a year.
So we'go a couple of years ago and they were
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just like. Kyrie was like, Yo, man, come be a
math It'd be dope to have you here. Man, Just
come be a Maverick. And Lebron said, yo, let me
you know, let me think about that point being there's
that the Hey and a D is a connection you
talk about, a live connection, you talk about already have chemistry.
He's one with Kyrie, He's one with a D. It
makes sense you're about to get the best person you've
seen in five years of Klay Thompson because he messing
(20:58):
with Meg.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This you talk about comeback player of the Year. Lay
Thompson is about to be going crazy. He thinks about
to go crazy. Let me tell you if he goes crazy,
remember I said that I'm gonna write is about to
be an assassin?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I hope Thompson.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know the game is game six. Play game six, Clay.
I'm telling you right now, when your girl is in
the gym, you played different. When your girl is Meg.
This version makes her she is the most tone and
fitted working out and you know he's a baby.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm an athlete too. Let me show you how we
do it.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And Lay Thompson is about to win a three point
contest and love the three point percentage some loving basketball,
and it's gonna be some loving basketball. He's gonna be
coming out there and Kys, he's gonna have a gonna
say saves the room. Don't say he gonna come to
games with Houston Astro jerseys on because she's from Houston
to Houston.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Listen, I'm all for that, Okay, I'm all for that. Yeah,
put it out there. Yeah, I mean, Clay, why are.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You ignoring the mass just because you don't want him? Yeah?
I just don't. Yeah, I do not want Lebron.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
There. I just think that you have to you don't
want the king. Think about it again, we talked about this.
If this was a buyout situation, obviously, if Lebron's if
you don't have to give up anything to get him,
that's a no brainer. I'm not saying that that's that
would be some hayting that behavior, that would be a
clear cut version of hate.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Right, you said, you just be robbing hundred percent. If
that was the case.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
But if it's a trade situation, you just got to
get rid of too many of the assets that you have,
and it just doesn't make sense from a longevity prospect
for the map.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It really doesn't. Here's why I'm just teasing you with
the mask. Here's why it doesn't make sense to master me.
I mean, and I mean this sincerely. Yeah, if I'm
playing a video game, it's a blast.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
In real life, Kyrie is injured. We don't know when
he's coming back. Some people say January February, some people
say March. Kyrie says, don't calm me in next year.
I don't know yet. Let me just heal. Let me see.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know who's often injured, Anthony Davis. Come on, man, stop,
we keep it really, we keep it real. He's often injured.
The man was injured on his first game. I'm about
the approve him that it was worth it that much
better than me.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
He was like, okay, all right, a man.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
And I'm not making fun I'm saying this is his reality.
He's even older. Now, he's hurt. Now, he's got the
retinal issue. Bro, I'm not even being funny. And everybody's
like all the Mavericks. Rob GI's been here for me.
Keep asking people what do y'all mean the Mavericks in
the NBA Finals. I mean people, I respect their opinion. Yeah,
Rashon Phillips is hardly ever wrong, and I'm like, wait,
what Kyrie's out and he's something, you know, when does
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he go down?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
And what point Cooper Flagg has to get his footing right?
That's fair? And then Klay Thompson, No, I feel differently
the news. This was me pre mag news.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I was saying Clay's washed, and now I mean washing
a good way, like washing with the blood. Like he's
a whole new person. Now he's been born again, he's baptized.
Now again he is I don't know who it is
he about to be. He got a new hair boy,
he feeling himself. But uh, And then you gotta bunch
of power forwards and centers who I like, Yes, I
like a lot, Yes, But you know, is de Angel L.
(24:05):
Russell the key? Has he ever really, really really been?
Has he showed up when you really needed? DeAngelo Russell?
He's one of the more talented players that has been
one of the more frustrating players his whole career. Yeah,
just talented lot. You're like, man, dude, why can't he
do this every night? And that's the thing. You know
this from being a pro. Anytime I've ever heard professionals
talk or coaches talk, and even in this business, any
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any business where you have to be professional, anybody can
have a day. Yes, every single person in the NBA
can drop thirty to forty easy, just to night that
was on the shots are coming my way, team was
feeding me, or I just had a great matchup. Can
you drop twenty five every single night? Twenty eight every night?
(24:50):
That's why Kobe was Kobe, Jordan was Jordan Lebron was
a Bron, Katie's Katie's staf. Can you drop every single night?
Put me out for twenty eight and eight? I will
tell how me. Guys can't do that in a winning
situation too. In a winning situation, I'll tell you this,
so Kel it depends on what is needed of you.
(25:11):
When the Angelo Russell was with the Nets and he
was the guy he could have, he could do that.
And so again I to say he can't or can
any of those guys, it's unfair to say that without
the real backstory.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
No, it is No, No, because you just asked they
made the playoffs that you're too. So this isn't a
team that wasn't in the in the.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Do you remember that record? I think they were where
they subbed five hundred and got in the player. Gotta
looked that up. I'm not sure they made you know,
some teams I know, but listen, that'll be thirty eight
and something.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Then they make the playoffs, right, But kel, But I'm
saying that's the point. Right, If you're asking of that
from him, ask ask of it, and if he can't
do it, then So this is what I look like, Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
But he's done it. Talking about the pistons and the lines.
This is what This is what I look like.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I know you said he can't do it. He has
done I'm sorry, Roger. I might even text Rob hey,
I know you in Magic City, but my band I
get it. No, Nope, this is what Rose color glasses.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You over here, year ten for eleven, whatever it is
at the end of the US you like, now, it's
the year.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I'm telling you. I'm not saying he is. That's not
my point. Nope, But you said he can't do it.
He can do it.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
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Speaker 3 (26:34):
So at our one, we talked about the new list
that has been listed when it comes to the quarterbacks,
and they do this every year ESPN. They put it
out and you have the top one hundred players specifically
at positions, and its quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Is this I'm gonna reread it. Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
You have number one, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen at you,
Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jane Daniels at five, Matthew Stafford
at six, jo John Justin Herbert at what My seven,
Jared Goff eight, Rounding Golf nine, and ten Jalen Hurts
in Baker Mayfield. So I'm gonna start with the midway
point number five because I think we'd agree with the four.
You can rank change the rankings, but we agree with
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the four and Mahomes, Borough, Jackson and Allen.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
The interesting one it's Jayden Daniels. Now.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
The reason why it's interesting is because he is coming
off of a spectacular rookie campaign. But I'm gonna be
emphasis on heavy on rookie campaign. Yes, and as you know,
you play defense in the league. Defenses go all right,
I had about enough. We figure some things out. Yes,
there are numbers out where seventy percent of his passes
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go to the right side of the field, similar to
another quarterback who was ranked lower than him. He does
not like to pass down the middle. And these are
things defenses start to really get. All right, all right,
we're starting to get more date on you. First six, seven,
eight game. All right, good little rookie. Al right, look good,
you know boom. Now it's like, all right, he's actually legit.
We gotta start figuring this, figuring him out. So I
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thought it was interesting that he was so high so
early in this ranking. Yep, you're looking at a season
of thirty five hundred yards, which specifically through the air,
and twenty five touchdowns, nine interceptions, which is good, which
is which are there? Those are those are good? Those
are good stats. If you look at the rushing he
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ended up having. Trying to get the total here, I
think it was a five hund let me pull that
up right there. But he absolutely is spectacular and we
all expect big things from him. However, there are some
folks that he's that he's above that I find interesting,
and Jalen Hurts being the main one, and I think
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he's I think he's a better talent than Jalen Hurts.
But I specifically bring those two up before a reason
we can't go back to the first hour discussing what
matters most wins for quarterbacks. Well, Jalen Hurts has done that. Yeah,
he's gotten a super Bowl. You could argue out played
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Patrick Mahomes in that Super Bowl. He did right, Yeah,
play well next season play you know, they unachieve and
it says they won a bunch of games early, they
lost a bunch but still won a lot. It wasn't
like they were like two and fifteen. Then eventually he
wins a super Bowl. So on one end, I can
see why if you're Jalen Hurts, or if you're his agent,
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or if you're just a fan of his, if you're
an Eagle fan, you could say, well, why is Jalen
Hurts solo? If you're ultimately telling me about winning. The
guy's been to two Super Bowls already in his career.
He's one one he played great a than another, And
you got a rookie who you know did well, got
to the NFC Championship Game, but doesn't have the kind
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of the the years under his belt as a Jalen Hurts.
So he's the one guy I think isolent wise, Jayde
and Daniels has been better. But I can see an
argument of, well, what more do you want from me?
The way my the way my team is built. Sakuan
freaking Barkley in the backfield, me and my squatting seven
hundred pound legs. I can run and I got some receivers.
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I hit him when I need to, but I don't
have to pass other times. I'm just winning. I think
he's getting penalized for the style in which he plays
and the way in which their team operates. Really all
about upfront, whether it's offensive, defensive line, and he's getting
the lack. You know that all of that is taking
the credit away from him, and I get it again
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natural talent wise, I see why Justin Herbert, I get
just pure arm ability Jaye Daniels, from the arms to
the ability to run.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
He's so slithery, He's man. He can get through spots
and holes.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But the one person I can see who can have
a gripe if you're telling me it's based off winning.
What has Justin Herbert done that I ain't did?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Right? You know? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And Matthew Staffers throughout his career, you can you know
he's now he's a super Bowl champ and again another
arm talent. But I just think Jalen Hurts would be
the one that would have something to say, even though
I get just pure arm talent and just ability.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I do think Jayson Daniels is better. It's too early.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I'll just say it straight up for them to put
him at five right now, it's just premature. One great
year does not warrant you.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Being in a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
It's to you said one, it's two guys on this
list right now. There's no way that he's better than
right now, and that is Jalen Hurts and it's Matthew Stafford.
And some would argue Justin Herbert, but I'm not a
big Herbert guy yet either. I think he told me, yes,
he's got a certain point, we're gonna look up, it's
gonna be year twelve, and were like he's coming one
hundred percent. And that's so that guy would he wouldn't
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be on the list. But Jalen Hurts very interesting because
even after the Super Bowl when he out played Patrick
Mahomes and at the Super Bowl when you know Kent
City came back and won great Super Bowl. I still
wasn't high on and I wasn't high on Jalen Hurst
last year, but the fact that he was able to
do what he did last year, there was some actual
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turmoil throughout that year that he had to overcome. It
wasn't always peachy. He didn't play great all year long,
but when it mattered we talk about winning, he showed
up in the big game. He showed up. At this point,
he's a super Bowl winning quarterback. You can win with
that guy, and you know how talented he is. He
has to be number five on this list right now,
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and Matthew Stafford has to be up there as well.
I mean talk about talent, arm talent, the things that
he's done, the things that he's achieved in his career.
I would put him over Jayden Daniels as well. And
that's not a knock on Jaden Daniels. I think he's phenomenal,
But for him, it's only been one year and that
second year it's going to be different, ask CJ. Stroud
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when things happen like you have to reinvent yourself, and
teams are going to now come out and say we
have to stop Jaden Daniels and they will construct the
formula that will make him half time to be like
I said, develop a number two pitch. And so it's
a little premature for that five rankin for me, Jalen
Hurts has won sixty four percent of his games. You
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definitely would take that. And then since twenty twenty two
is that seventy percent?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You know again, the dude, if the name of the game,
because they gotta be fair, why did I put Patrick
mut We both agreed at the number one. You put
it because it's the winning because it was just better player.
Right now, that's been Lamar Jackson, Yes, right now, it's
been Josh Allen. Yes, Ben Joe Burrow. If you're saying
who's played better the last couple of seasons. But what
we both said, and I believe it. I don't want
to speak out of time for we did is that
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Patrick mahonmes when it comes down to it, I need
to win, I need a third down. I need to
play to ice the game or to win it. He's
still the guy because he wins. And Jalen Hurts, who
I've been hard on Rob g will tell you I
am to I've been like, I want to see more
of you got stud receivers.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Why aren't y'all balling? Got issue as a receiver? You
and A J. Brown getting into it. And obviously that
happens from time to time.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So I don't wantact glad that's the end all be
off right, But my point is it was he did
leave some more to be desired, and I said there
were gonna be times where I was question if it
came down to this drive you gotta pass six or
seven times, can you get it done? And you know,
to his credit, he was able to do it. Now
they had a big lead and they didn't have to
do it. And some of it was, you know, him
being mobile and just kind of some play action stuff
with against Sakwon Barkley being in the backfield. But if
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the if the at the end of the day, winning
is what matters, and that's the same thing. While we did,
you know, been knocking Lamar Jackson because he hasn't won
the big one, then Jalen Hurts would have something to
say it, and Kevin. The crazy part about that list
is even I said it, I just said his name.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
But c J.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Stroualt to be on that list before him, in my opinion,
before Jayde Daniels.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yes, it's it's been two years of this. C J.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Strould took the NFL by storm last year, obviously, took
the team to the playoffs, a team that was not
expected to do anything that first year. Second year comes
back and is not as pretty as the first year,
but he figures it out. You talk about no O
Line o' lion was trying, he was running. He was
running for his life. He was fighting, fighting for my life, man.
But found found the way to get to the playoffs
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and found a way to still be productive and then
playoffs played his butt off. Yeah, you have two years
to see what he's done. I mean, you only got
one year of Jaydon Daniels to be number five. It's
just a little bit, it's just a little early.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
The only thing we'll say is maybe he's just maybe
they're these these by the way, for those who don't know,
this is seventy group of GMS anonymous GMS scouts coaches
as well, and so maybe he's just they see, he's
just that gifted. I can already project sure pure talent wise,
Like they're like, no, dude's pure talent wise and so talented. Yeah,
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these dudes are coming in old as heck, by the way,
in a good way. They ain't coming in right. I
all always told Rob because sometimes we'll get into the band.
I'm like, dude, the dude the reason because he won't
acknowledge that these young guys are coming in ballin am
I dude, the reason they're coming in is because a
forty starts under the belt.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Usually you went to college, you didn't do it any
in your first year or two, then you finally got
a couple of games your junior year, maybe maybe half
the season. Then your senior was year or maybe junior
and senior j Yeah, these dudes are getting forty in
COVID years and graduate years. These dudes are coming in
grown men full beard twenty four, twenty three. You know
what I mean, forty stars. Let's go Michael Pennis junior him, Yes,
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Joe Burrow. These dudes are coming in with a bunch
of starts, and they're ready to go. Yeah, bow knicks
and there's no dues. They're just like ready, and that's
why I think they're not playing. They're not coming in
struggling as much because they're getting so many transferporters. R.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm going to different.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Schools I'm playing, so Kayler Williams played a bunch of
big football as well.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So these guys are coming in ready, ready for it.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
There's a conversation where you had some NFL execs and
coaches and also some scouts as well, and they do
this annually and they rank the top players.
Speaker 4 (00:35):
But they kind of go position by position.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
So we start, of course with quarterbacks and they more
than seventy anonymous. Like we mentioned coaches and execks and scouts.
I'll get into this, and they get down to the
top ten. So the last few years, the number one
has been Patrick Mahomes. But will there be changes this year?
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Drum roll no, ain't no changes, ain't no.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Patrick Mahomes is number one again. However a little bit
of controversy. He is his lead. The gap has lessened.
The gap is slimmer because you got guys keep creeping
up on them. So it goes like this number one Mahomes.
Number two, Josh Allen, you have Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson.
(01:18):
Number five is where it gets interesting to me. Jade
and Daniels, Yes, and then so on. We'll go down
the long list a little bit later on, but I
want to start with this Patrick Mahomes. Part of the
reason if you read the article, some execs says, which
is kind of how I felt.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And I had to argue with Rob last year. His
numbers weren't great.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
If I just told you a guy had twenty eight
and eleven, I mean, that's solid, you know, But if
I told you Patrick Mahomes, but I wanted a little
bit better on your hat right now, you have a goat,
and he was a legit person competing to be the goat.
Those aren't goat like numbers. So this is my thing
that I pointed out that some of these anonymous scouts
and gyms and all that pointed out as well. His
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offensive line was bad. He was running around for his life. Also,
his wide receivers, as we know it decimated with injuries.
So he was making the best out of what he had.
You know, sometimes mama ain't have everything, but she gonna
make the best of what she had. We gonna eat
and we're gonna eat good again, and in this case
that's him winning to the tune of fifteen and two.
So that was one of the things pointed out. But
also they said, other guys getting better. Yep, some said
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Joe Burrows and playing the best football last couple sear.
Some guys said lamar Jay, you know, so on and so
forth down the line.
Speaker 4 (02:26):
Sure.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
So my thing with this is when it comes to
Patrick Mahomes, it's really difficult to kind of explain because
me and Robb g were discussing this. Patrick Mahomes has
done something that every ten to fifteen years a guy
will do in a sport, and it'll happen in other
sports only maybe twenty twenty five years, where we have
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a handful of guys who have done this. Carrie, I
think you'll feel me. Patrick Mahomes isn't rare air. Patrick
Mahomes is in the as of recent NBA wise Lebron
Tiger Woods with golf, Serena Williams, Tennis Tom Brady playing
the same position in the same league in the NFL,
And what that is is, at a certain point they
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had so much winning and they did it early, or
at least in a certain span of years, and they dominated.
And so they had the numbers, they had the wins,
and they did it in a unique style that was
different that all of a sudden in your psyche, well,
they're just gonna win. And there was a period in
time where Lebron was just that guy, He's gonna win MVP.
If I said, hey, who's gonna win this series? You know,
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you say, I gotta go with Lebron and he might lose,
and just like Patrick Holmes has lost in Super Bowls,
but you're like, I'm going with that guy. Even when
Tiger Woods started to get banged up a little bit
started to be a little less than he was. If
I said, who are you putting the money on his
turn this in the US Open? Who'd have Tiger Woods?
Who'd you putting the money on Augusta Serena Williams has
a baby, comes back, she's don her best shape, she's
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trying to work it out, she has some injuries. If
I said, hell, but who you got who's winning the
Australian Open. Serena Williams, Tom Brady, he's in his forties,
he's this, he's trying to figure out out he's eating
avocado ice cream. And if I said who you got
to win, you say Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes has
gotten to that point because I get that year by
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year he hasn't been the best player. Yes, for the
last few years, last couple of years in particular, season
by season, I get the last couple of years. You
can look at other guys' numbers. They're doing it more dazzling,
more beautifully style of football.
Speaker 4 (04:26):
It's more spectacular to watch.
Speaker 3 (04:28):
They're blowing people out regularly, routinely, where he was ekeing
by people off last year.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
But when it comes down.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
To it, it is difficult for me to put any
of them in a position where I would pick them
over him in a game, in a meaningful game, if
it's a playoff game, a super Bowl game, and going
up against and now the other guys are in his division.
But let's just say in the playoff game, I can't
pick against or not his division is conference, I can't
pick against him. And that's a credit to the run
he had, the run of Lebron had, the run of Brady,
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the run of attacker where you're like until I see
otherwise routinely. I gotta go with the guy that routinely
is in the Super Bowl, win, loser, draw routinely there
routinely fifteen and two. Yeah, I mean, and everything you
said is correct, it's right, I feel, Yeah, the Stallion
Klay Thompson girlfriend. But there is a butt right because
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he went in by the way undred percent.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
No, you got one hundred percent. Like everything you said
is right.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
But there is a level of the expectations that we
have been accustomed to expecting from Patrick Mahomes, the level
of play, the things that he does. When he first
came to the league, a lot of the stuff he
was doing was unorthodox, right for a guy that was winning. Yeah,
And I think and I think that part of it
was cool to see the aesthetics of it. You mean
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this the aesthetics the way he played. I mean, obviously
when he first started he couldn't read defense as well either.
He was out there winging that yeah, and it was
fall and it was beautiful to see. So you have
seen the evolution of his game from the first year
he started to where he is now. Right now, they
have caught up to him. Those top four that were
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named on any given day, they can be the.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
Best quarterback in the league. I don't disagree.
Speaker 5 (06:11):
And that's the point, right, So when you make these
lists and you make a concrete number one, this is
the number one guy, there's always an asterisk behind it
because obviously that's attributed to team success. If he was
in Lamar Jackson's position at four, putting up the numbers
that Lamar is putting up, winning the MVPs and all
the things that.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
He's been doing.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
And not getting the wins, would he still be number one?
As and when you think of wins, that's a team thing.
It's not just him. Obviously, he's the head of the snake.
And you can make that argument what you just said,
what you just eloquently said, and it can be true.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But on the flip side of that.
Speaker 5 (06:50):
If Lamar's team has let him down, and I'm not
saying that's always been the case, Lamar hasn't always played
well in big playoff games either, But if the roles
was switch, would he be one and Patrick mahons before?
I think that's my argument, right, So when you make
these lists, especially coming off recent history, the last couple
of years, it's been clear that there's been quarterback played
better than Patrick mhaundry. So why can you concretely say
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that he's number one? And that's always my tip, and
I don't think anything of any of these are concrete.
It's just why I think a big yet.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
But I think that so when you start to poll
people and then the way they put the rankings in
power or this guy got more votes, he got more
first play votes. You know, they do all the metrics
in the numbers. I don't think it's concrete. I think
he got sixty percent of the number one votes this
time around, So it wasn't like a blowout where That's
why I say it wasn't concrete. And I do think
you know, if you read through some of their points,
that was just what you said, Hey, yo, Joe Burrow.
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They said he has been the big lead. Some of
them said that his his footwork is timing is completion
percentage at seventy percent. They were saying, like, you know,
he's kind of the guy. Others would say, oh, look
look at what Josh Allen is just a whole different
beast to size and speed of athleticism. But I think
what the common and dominator is Carrie. I will go, yeah,
that's cool. Yeah, I hear you. Yep, yeah, Well they're
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lining up this Sunday AFC title game. Who you got
and that's been proven and that's the thing that that's
why he's the guy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
You know, we'll talk later on some more of his
lifts and maybe even a little bit further on here.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
You know, there's more to be dissect.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I think about Lamar Jackson because I've been saying something
about Lamar Jackson for an entire year that I've been
doing this odd couple. And I know you've been here
for days that I've said it, and I know you
echo the same sentiments about how great he's been. But
I do think there's something too why he's on his list.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Now.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
This is the second year in a row that Lamar
Jackson has been four. So we'll get into that a
little because I can see why you feel like you
want to go off. It's the first segment. You're trying
to be nice. He already know alright, just you know,
because hey, hey Rob g Joe Burrow don't exist with Carrie.
I ain't hear it, No, he does, he does. I
love Joe, I said, you said to Petrimhomes. Anyway, let
(09:01):
me tell you about Lamar. If we flip flopped the
flop of the flips, Yeah, why wouldn't Patrick because Lamar?
Yeah yeah, I mean you are here and you're the
embodiment of uh yeah, you are the You're the embodiment
of Rob Parker right now. I feel like he's here
right now. Do you feel that that's the only black
quarterback you like?
Speaker 4 (09:19):
Is Lamar? I got some more because we gotta go
on that list some more, but we'll come back. We'll
get a little bit more and none of this.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
But that's my big takeaway is that it's a credit
to Patrick Mahomes and the success he had. You just
talked about the style of play, the flair, the hair,
the winning and I remember the Super Bowl run they made.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Against the Niners.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
He was down ten points in every single game and
all of us went, yeah, they probably gonna still win.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
I don't know I feel that way about Lamar. I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I feel that way about Josh Allen And I'm you know,
obviously it's a game by game meeting.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
I have to see it. Are they down ten early
and they got a whole forty five minutes last? Okay?
Cool is it?
Speaker 3 (09:56):
But I'm just saying Patrick Mahomes was the only guy.
We're like, how much time left, thirteen seconds against the bill,
whatever it was. Oh, for sure, Yes he can still
win this. And he reminds me of Steph Curry. Steph Curry,
last point here we got to break. Steph Curry is
the only shot. This is when I get into arguments
with Rob No, I know you never made a game Okay,
he's not made one game winner that you like. Yeah,
(10:18):
but he's made every other shot I've ever seen. He's
the first person has n't going up to get a drink,
going up to get some chips and guac real quick
with four seconds left, three seconds left on the clock,
two seconds left on the clock, and he's got to
go to full length of the court. He's the only
person in the history of NBA posital hold on, he's
shooting from that free throw line all the way over there,
and you stop, carry rose, don't you hold on? There's
(10:40):
a chance they thing might go in. Steph Curry is
the only player. And Patrick Mahomes has a little bit
of that where you're like, hold on this.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
He's done.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
What is it?
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Let me see him even in the Super Bowl, You're like,
all right, if they get a stump here, there might
be something to this.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
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Speaker 3 (11:34):
Speaking of Lebron and those four teams, So, according to
Scoop who got the Scoop, there are four teams who
have reached out and have some interest in Lebron, one
in particular, I'm gonna leave last because it irks you.
So we have the Cavs because that's the I'm coming home.
I'm coming it makes sense. So there you got the Warriors,
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you have the Clippers, and then you have.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
I'm sorry the maths. I'm sorry. Why did you have
to say it again? Sorry? Some people might be excited.
I don't know. Maybe you're not excited. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
But those are the kind of the teams that have
reached out and have some interest in getting Lebron. We know,
let's just kind of give a little back stories of
things that we've known. Yeah, Brian Winhurst supporting that in
Mona Shellburn that the team and Lebron aren't seeing ey eye,
that there's some distance between them. We know for a
fact that you just kind of see all the tour
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he's been on, he's been played, he's been in Cleveland. Yeah,
he's been here. He hasn't text DeAndre eight and we
heard from DeAndre said him as of when he was
he's signed. Now, if anything's happened since then, we don't know.
But as of that time, the team hasn't put out
a we're so glad Lebron opted in.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
We're woo woo woo, We're excited.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
We haven't heard from that, which typically you get, right, Yeah,
even if it's just two sentences, happy he's opted in.
Looking forward to this season, we haven't gotten any of that.
So that's kind of as the precursor to where we
are and why there would be interested and why Lebron
feels a bit slided is what the reporting is that
you know from the Lakers.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
You know what's funny, what's that this is the first
time I think in Lebron's career that he's been on
the outside looking in. It's an uncomfortable situation. A guy
that's always been in the know since his rookie year, right,
I think we can safely say he's had the backing
of every team and every GM and every owner he's
(13:23):
been a part of. This is a new regime. This
isn't even the regime that he's familiar with, right, this
is a new regime. So for them to even you know,
try to accommodate him right now or make him feel
better for you know, his ego feel better with a tweet, Sam,
We're happy he's back. Like, I don't think they're in
the business of Lebron, right, They're in the business of Luca,
(13:43):
and I think that's very evident. But it's it's funny
how all that stuff like life comes at you fool
like like full a steam ahead, really quickly totally been
in the control of everything and all the moves that's
happened around you to now being left out and now
your ego not being pleased the way that you want.
Now you want to shop around and have your boys
(14:04):
say you want to be moved or you're available, and
have these things and not come out and say them directly.
It's just it's it's Lebron's brand, and it's it's for me.
It's kind of ironic that he's in this situation.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
Well, I want to go back to someone that you
just talk about the new regime, so we know they
have the the the group that ow was the Dodgers
now is the owner of the Lakers, and I think
there's been a mutual benefit. Sometimes in life, things worked
out for the both of us. Now there was left
more left to be desired. Talking about the Laker of
the marriage between the Lakers and Lebron, you wanted more,
Maybe you wanted another ring. Maybe you at least got
(14:34):
to the finals one or two morey, maybe we didn't
win it, but we got there. Maybe you want an
MVP on our watch, something you know you wanted a
little bit more. But if you look at the marriage,
I think both teams can both parties can go. You know,
at least, hey, it was pretty beneficial. ROGI, you're a
Laker fan. The Lakers the last five six years with
Kobe horrid.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
He was bad.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
He was broken. It wasn't as fun. He's broken down.
It was a lot going on. He was missing games.
The team wasn't good. They didn't have a lot of
great players. That's just a fact. I'm not being funny
that every year to begin a new pick number two,
deand rusts the number two Big again Linzo, number seven,
Big Jalius random brandon ingram Like. It wasn't good. That's
why they got accumulated on his young talent because they
weren't good. So to be relevant because of Lebron at
(15:18):
least relevant, at least competent. You missed the playoffs twice,
only twice you won a ring. You made a Western
Conference final. He has the all time leading scorer on
your watch. Watch this too. You had the perfect statesman,
and I mean this sincerely, to handle Kobe Bryant's death.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Right. He was the one out there was speaking. He
spoke eloquently.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
It was one of the times it felt kind of
from the heart it didn't really feel rehearsed with Lebron.
It kind of just felt like real deal, raw motion.
And then now that's why when people's oll the bubble ring,
I'm like, dude, they won that the year for Kobe,
everybody kind of goes straight to bubble. I go, this
was the year Kobe pass and the ain't kind of viole.
We're gonna win for him, for him, and they did that. Yeah,
that's amazing to me. And you were able to have that.
(16:02):
Not only did we the Lakers win it, we want
it and honoring our guy maybe arguably the greatest Laker
of all time. Some would say magic. It's very generational Kobe.
So Lebron, you got to be in LA you have
to be close to Hollywood. You got to do all
the business. One thing you want to do. You gotta
want a championship.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
You got.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
They got all the clutch guys you ever want. Who
you want, what clutch guys you want? Okay, great, you
want to play with your son, cool, We got that.
You want different coaches. Cool got that they traded the
young Corps, all those guys they accumulated. So to me,
it's a mutual benefit and it's just time to move on.
And I think that's okay. Right now, you start to
wonder what's the best fit. I look at this two ways, Carrie.
(16:41):
The Clippers are the best fit in that he gets
to stay directly in Los Angeles.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
We know how much that means to him.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
His kids are in school here, well, his daughter, you know,
you know, his son is obviously still playing with the Lakers.
So we're playing a hypothetic. If they swore to happen,
what matches? So I would say the Clippers. And here's why.
For the clip number one, if you're still keeping the core,
you might have to trade James hard and obviously for
some money. He's to kind of match and you have
to move another piece here. But if I have Kawhi,
(17:09):
I've got Zubach, we got Lebron, you got some other
pieces around there. He's still in LA he doesn't have
to travel. You got a guy that you can kind
of say, all right, Kawhi goes down some games, we
got him still here. He can play well. So that
kind of fits and makes sense in that regard. But
the one that's really interesting to me, don't you do it?
I'm not gonna do it. It's the Warriors. Okay, there
(17:31):
you go. I'll tell you why why Lebron has been
on a campaign like he was like one of these
presidential you know candidates. Man, I just g Gotti Schucks.
I love to play with Steph Man. You know who
I love to play with Steph? Ask me who I
like to play with?
Speaker 4 (17:46):
Kerry? Who would you like to play with?
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Steph Kurry? I love to play with Steph Kurry. In
the Olympics, it was so correct to play with Steph.
Oh step step step I mean he is like dang,
Steph is like whoa. So he gets to play with Steph.
He gets to stay on the West Coast where he's
gonna play the Lakers four time. He played the Clippers
four times, you meaning staying on here. You get to
play the Kings four times, so you're here, yeah, the
(18:08):
Suns four times. Still really close to LA just a
quick forty five minute flight our flight max.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
So you get to stay there. You get to compete
with the team.
Speaker 3 (18:18):
And I think it will be the last dance, if
you will, for Steve Kerr and Stephan I don't mean
the last year, but this is their last little go.
Speaker 4 (18:26):
The next couple of years, right.
Speaker 3 (18:27):
And Lebron and you get to compete, you get to
play with him, we get to all seed.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
It's great for the NBA. Be fun.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
And my last point why I think you would love
to do that because if for some odd reason they
were to mess around and win. Steph, you got five,
I got five. You ain't got one up on me.
You ain't got one.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Up on me. That sounds like Lebron. We both have five.
It dang it.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
People have me rank higher than you right now. But
if you mess around and got a fifth, then I didn't.
Maybe now some people want to you know, oh man,
he got five ones with Lebron's watching all that. Yeah,
you gotta hold on, brother, you gotta sit with me.
Either we both losing. Oh, we both winning and we
got five? We right got free? We got five. No,
(19:12):
it's funny you said.
Speaker 5 (19:13):
The Clippers though that that would be intriguing just from
the standpoint of having those two legends play together, and
obviously their styles of play would fit seamlessly. I mean,
they both do everything at a really high level. And
what what The perfect teammate for Lebron always has been
the guy that can shoot the ball, right, got that
(19:33):
can space it. Whenever you construct the team around him,
you're trying to get shooters around him. Right, So the
ultimate shooter, the best shooter of all time on this
team would obviously be so exciting the sas just a lot.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
He would just find stuff. It would be crazy. Yeah,
it'd be crazy.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
But again I think, obviously we look at these four teams,
and if you have to choose between these four teams,
I do like the Golden State one the most, just
for the intrigue of it. But for me, like I said,
Lebron needs stick this thing out and ride it down
with the Lakers, and the.
Speaker 4 (20:03):
Best fit is actually with the MAVs. You just don't.
Speaker 3 (20:06):
You tried to No, no, no, you just don't want
to hear. Okay, wait wait why did he say this's
a homecoming? Why do you say that Kyrie gets to
come back play Kyrie?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
You know Kyrie was on his Lebron little to remember.
You know, I just realized I was too young. I
didn't understand what I had. I didn't appreciate him. And
Lebron have been a spoon Coons since then, and they've
been cool, and we had Scoop again. Scoop by joined
us last hour. He was saying he got some inside
traction that they had had a phone conversation a year.
So we'go a couple of years ago and they were
(20:36):
just like. Kyrie was like, Yo, man, come be a
math It'd be dope to have you here. Man, Just
come be a Maverick. And Lebron said, yo, let me
you know, let me think about that point being there's
that the Hey and a D is a connection you
talk about, a live connection, you talk about already have chemistry.
He's one with Kyrie, He's one with a D. It
makes sense you're about to get the best person you've
seen in five years of Klay Thompson because he messing
(20:58):
with Meg.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
This you talk about comeback player of the Year. Lay
Thompson is about to be going crazy. He thinks about
to go crazy. Let me tell you if he goes crazy,
remember I said that I'm gonna write is about to
be an assassin?
Speaker 4 (21:11):
I hope Thompson.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
You know the game is game six. Play game six, Clay.
I'm telling you right now, when your girl is in
the gym, you played different. When your girl is Meg.
This version makes her she is the most tone and
fitted working out and you know he's a baby.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
I'm an athlete too. Let me show you how we
do it.
Speaker 3 (21:27):
And Lay Thompson is about to win a three point
contest and love the three point percentage some loving basketball,
and it's gonna be some loving basketball. He's gonna be
coming out there and Kys, he's gonna have a gonna
say saves the room. Don't say he gonna come to
games with Houston Astro jerseys on because she's from Houston
to Houston.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
Listen, I'm all for that, Okay, I'm all for that. Yeah,
put it out there. Yeah, I mean, Clay, why are.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You ignoring the mass just because you don't want him? Yeah?
I just don't. Yeah, I do not want Lebron.
Speaker 5 (21:57):
There. I just think that you have to you don't
want the king. Think about it again, we talked about this.
If this was a buyout situation, obviously, if Lebron's if
you don't have to give up anything to get him,
that's a no brainer. I'm not saying that that's that
would be some hayting that behavior, that would be a
clear cut version of hate.
Speaker 4 (22:14):
Right, you said, you just be robbing hundred percent. If
that was the case.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
But if it's a trade situation, you just got to
get rid of too many of the assets that you have,
and it just doesn't make sense from a longevity prospect
for the map.
Speaker 4 (22:27):
That's all.
Speaker 3 (22:28):
It really doesn't. Here's why I'm just teasing you with
the mask. Here's why it doesn't make sense to master me.
I mean, and I mean this sincerely. Yeah, if I'm
playing a video game, it's a blast.
Speaker 4 (22:37):
Right.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
In real life, Kyrie is injured. We don't know when
he's coming back. Some people say January February, some people
say March. Kyrie says, don't calm me in next year.
I don't know yet. Let me just heal. Let me see.
Speaker 4 (22:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
You know who's often injured, Anthony Davis. Come on, man, stop,
we keep it really, we keep it real. He's often injured.
The man was injured on his first game. I'm about
the approve him that it was worth it that much
better than me.
Speaker 5 (23:03):
He was like, okay, all right, a man.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
And I'm not making fun I'm saying this is his reality.
He's even older. Now, he's hurt. Now, he's got the
retinal issue. Bro, I'm not even being funny. And everybody's
like all the Mavericks. Rob GI's been here for me.
Keep asking people what do y'all mean the Mavericks in
the NBA Finals. I mean people, I respect their opinion. Yeah,
Rashon Phillips is hardly ever wrong, and I'm like, wait,
what Kyrie's out and he's something, you know, when does
(23:33):
he go down?
Speaker 4 (23:33):
And what point Cooper Flagg has to get his footing right?
That's fair? And then Klay Thompson, No, I feel differently
the news. This was me pre mag news.
Speaker 3 (23:43):
I was saying Clay's washed, and now I mean washing
a good way, like washing with the blood. Like he's
a whole new person. Now he's been born again, he's baptized.
Now again he is I don't know who it is
he about to be. He got a new hair boy,
he feeling himself. But uh, And then you gotta bunch
of power forwards and centers who I like, Yes, I
like a lot, Yes, But you know, is de Angel L.
(24:05):
Russell the key? Has he ever really, really really been?
Has he showed up when you really needed? DeAngelo Russell?
He's one of the more talented players that has been
one of the more frustrating players his whole career. Yeah,
just talented lot. You're like, man, dude, why can't he
do this every night? And that's the thing. You know
this from being a pro. Anytime I've ever heard professionals
talk or coaches talk, and even in this business, any
(24:27):
any business where you have to be professional, anybody can
have a day. Yes, every single person in the NBA
can drop thirty to forty easy, just to night that
was on the shots are coming my way, team was
feeding me, or I just had a great matchup. Can
you drop twenty five every single night? Twenty eight every night?
(24:50):
That's why Kobe was Kobe, Jordan was Jordan Lebron was
a Bron, Katie's Katie's staf. Can you drop every single night?
Put me out for twenty eight and eight? I will
tell how me. Guys can't do that in a winning
situation too. In a winning situation, I'll tell you this,
so Kel it depends on what is needed of you.
(25:11):
When the Angelo Russell was with the Nets and he
was the guy he could have, he could do that.
And so again I to say he can't or can
any of those guys, it's unfair to say that without
the real backstory.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
No, it is No, No, because you just asked they
made the playoffs that you're too. So this isn't a
team that wasn't in the in the.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Do you remember that record? I think they were where
they subbed five hundred and got in the player. Gotta
looked that up. I'm not sure they made you know,
some teams I know, but listen, that'll be thirty eight
and something.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
Then they make the playoffs, right, But kel, But I'm
saying that's the point. Right, If you're asking of that
from him, ask ask of it, and if he can't
do it, then So this is what I look like, Rodgers.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
But he's done it. Talking about the pistons and the lines.
This is what This is what I look like.
Speaker 3 (25:58):
I know you said he can't do it. He has
done I'm sorry, Roger. I might even text Rob hey,
I know you in Magic City, but my band I
get it. No, Nope, this is what Rose color glasses.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
That's what it is.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
You over here, year ten for eleven, whatever it is
at the end of the US you like, now, it's
the year.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
I'm telling you. I'm not saying he is. That's not
my point. Nope, But you said he can't do it.
He can do it.
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Speaker 3 (26:34):
So at our one, we talked about the new list
that has been listed when it comes to the quarterbacks,
and they do this every year ESPN. They put it
out and you have the top one hundred players specifically
at positions, and its quarterback position.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Is this I'm gonna reread it. Yep.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
You have number one, Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen at you,
Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jane Daniels at five, Matthew Stafford
at six, jo John Justin Herbert at what My seven,
Jared Goff eight, Rounding Golf nine, and ten Jalen Hurts
in Baker Mayfield. So I'm gonna start with the midway
point number five because I think we'd agree with the four.
You can rank change the rankings, but we agree with
(27:13):
the four and Mahomes, Borough, Jackson and Allen.
Speaker 4 (27:16):
The interesting one it's Jayden Daniels. Now.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
The reason why it's interesting is because he is coming
off of a spectacular rookie campaign. But I'm gonna be
emphasis on heavy on rookie campaign. Yes, and as you know,
you play defense in the league. Defenses go all right,
I had about enough. We figure some things out. Yes,
there are numbers out where seventy percent of his passes
(27:44):
go to the right side of the field, similar to
another quarterback who was ranked lower than him. He does
not like to pass down the middle. And these are
things defenses start to really get. All right, all right,
we're starting to get more date on you. First six, seven,
eight game. All right, good little rookie. Al right, look good,
you know boom. Now it's like, all right, he's actually legit.
We gotta start figuring this, figuring him out. So I
(28:08):
thought it was interesting that he was so high so
early in this ranking. Yep, you're looking at a season
of thirty five hundred yards, which specifically through the air,
and twenty five touchdowns, nine interceptions, which is good, which
is which are there? Those are those are good? Those
are good stats. If you look at the rushing he
(28:29):
ended up having. Trying to get the total here, I
think it was a five hund let me pull that
up right there. But he absolutely is spectacular and we
all expect big things from him. However, there are some
folks that he's that he's above that I find interesting,
and Jalen Hurts being the main one, and I think
(28:51):
he's I think he's a better talent than Jalen Hurts.
But I specifically bring those two up before a reason
we can't go back to the first hour discussing what
matters most wins for quarterbacks. Well, Jalen Hurts has done that. Yeah,
he's gotten a super Bowl. You could argue out played
(29:13):
Patrick Mahomes in that Super Bowl. He did right, Yeah,
play well next season play you know, they unachieve and
it says they won a bunch of games early, they
lost a bunch but still won a lot. It wasn't
like they were like two and fifteen. Then eventually he
wins a super Bowl. So on one end, I can
see why if you're Jalen Hurts, or if you're his agent,
(29:33):
or if you're just a fan of his, if you're
an Eagle fan, you could say, well, why is Jalen
Hurts solo? If you're ultimately telling me about winning. The
guy's been to two Super Bowls already in his career.
He's one one he played great a than another, And
you got a rookie who you know did well, got
to the NFC Championship Game, but doesn't have the kind
(29:54):
of the the years under his belt as a Jalen Hurts.
So he's the one guy I think isolent wise, Jayde
and Daniels has been better. But I can see an
argument of, well, what more do you want from me?
The way my the way my team is built. Sakuan
freaking Barkley in the backfield, me and my squatting seven
hundred pound legs. I can run and I got some receivers.
(30:17):
I hit him when I need to, but I don't
have to pass other times. I'm just winning. I think
he's getting penalized for the style in which he plays
and the way in which their team operates. Really all
about upfront, whether it's offensive, defensive line, and he's getting
the lack. You know that all of that is taking
the credit away from him, and I get it again
(30:37):
natural talent wise, I see why Justin Herbert, I get
just pure arm ability Jaye Daniels, from the arms to
the ability to run.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
He's so slithery, He's man. He can get through spots
and holes.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But the one person I can see who can have
a gripe if you're telling me it's based off winning.
What has Justin Herbert done that I ain't did?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
Right? You know? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:56):
And Matthew Staffers throughout his career, you can you know
he's now he's a super Bowl champ and again another
arm talent. But I just think Jalen Hurts would be
the one that would have something to say, even though
I get just pure arm talent and just ability.
Speaker 4 (31:08):
I do think Jayson Daniels is better. It's too early.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
I'll just say it straight up for them to put
him at five right now, it's just premature. One great
year does not warrant you.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
Being in a lot.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
It's to you said one, it's two guys on this
list right now. There's no way that he's better than
right now, and that is Jalen Hurts and it's Matthew Stafford.
And some would argue Justin Herbert, but I'm not a
big Herbert guy yet either. I think he told me, yes,
he's got a certain point, we're gonna look up, it's
gonna be year twelve, and were like he's coming one
hundred percent. And that's so that guy would he wouldn't
(31:45):
be on the list. But Jalen Hurts very interesting because
even after the Super Bowl when he out played Patrick
Mahomes and at the Super Bowl when you know Kent
City came back and won great Super Bowl. I still
wasn't high on and I wasn't high on Jalen Hurst
last year, but the fact that he was able to
do what he did last year, there was some actual
(32:06):
turmoil throughout that year that he had to overcome. It
wasn't always peachy. He didn't play great all year long,
but when it mattered we talk about winning, he showed
up in the big game. He showed up. At this point,
he's a super Bowl winning quarterback. You can win with
that guy, and you know how talented he is. He
has to be number five on this list right now,
(32:29):
and Matthew Stafford has to be up there as well.
I mean talk about talent, arm talent, the things that
he's done, the things that he's achieved in his career.
I would put him over Jayden Daniels as well. And
that's not a knock on Jaden Daniels. I think he's phenomenal,
But for him, it's only been one year and that
second year it's going to be different, ask CJ. Stroud
(32:49):
when things happen like you have to reinvent yourself, and
teams are going to now come out and say we
have to stop Jaden Daniels and they will construct the
formula that will make him half time to be like
I said, develop a number two pitch. And so it's
a little premature for that five rankin for me, Jalen
Hurts has won sixty four percent of his games. You
(33:10):
definitely would take that. And then since twenty twenty two
is that seventy percent?
Speaker 4 (33:15):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:17):
You know again, the dude, if the name of the game,
because they gotta be fair, why did I put Patrick
mut We both agreed at the number one. You put
it because it's the winning because it was just better player.
Right now, that's been Lamar Jackson, Yes, right now, it's
been Josh Allen. Yes, Ben Joe Burrow. If you're saying
who's played better the last couple of seasons. But what
we both said, and I believe it. I don't want
to speak out of time for we did is that
(33:39):
Patrick mahonmes when it comes down to it, I need
to win, I need a third down. I need to
play to ice the game or to win it. He's
still the guy because he wins. And Jalen Hurts, who
I've been hard on Rob g will tell you I
am to I've been like, I want to see more
of you got stud receivers.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
Why aren't y'all balling? Got issue as a receiver? You
and A J. Brown getting into it. And obviously that
happens from time to time.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
So I don't wantact glad that's the end all be
off right, But my point is it was he did
leave some more to be desired, and I said there
were gonna be times where I was question if it
came down to this drive you gotta pass six or
seven times, can you get it done? And you know,
to his credit, he was able to do it. Now
they had a big lead and they didn't have to
do it. And some of it was, you know, him
being mobile and just kind of some play action stuff
with against Sakwon Barkley being in the backfield. But if
(34:24):
the if the at the end of the day, winning
is what matters, and that's the same thing. While we did,
you know, been knocking Lamar Jackson because he hasn't won
the big one, then Jalen Hurts would have something to
say it, and Kevin. The crazy part about that list
is even I said it, I just said his name.
Speaker 4 (34:39):
But c J.
Speaker 5 (34:40):
Stroualt to be on that list before him, in my opinion,
before Jayde Daniels.
Speaker 4 (34:44):
Yes, it's it's been two years of this. C J.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Strould took the NFL by storm last year, obviously, took
the team to the playoffs, a team that was not
expected to do anything that first year. Second year comes
back and is not as pretty as the first year,
but he figures it out. You talk about no O
Line o' lion was trying, he was running. He was
running for his life. He was fighting, fighting for my life, man.
But found found the way to get to the playoffs
(35:07):
and found a way to still be productive and then
playoffs played his butt off. Yeah, you have two years
to see what he's done. I mean, you only got
one year of Jaydon Daniels to be number five. It's
just a little bit, it's just a little early.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
Now.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
The only thing we'll say is maybe he's just maybe
they're these these by the way, for those who don't know,
this is seventy group of GMS anonymous GMS scouts coaches
as well, and so maybe he's just they see, he's
just that gifted. I can already project sure pure talent wise,
Like they're like, no, dude's pure talent wise and so talented. Yeah,
(35:39):
these dudes are coming in old as heck, by the way,
in a good way. They ain't coming in right. I
all always told Rob because sometimes we'll get into the band.
I'm like, dude, the dude the reason because he won't
acknowledge that these young guys are coming in ballin am
I dude, the reason they're coming in is because a
forty starts under the belt.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
Think about it.
Speaker 3 (35:55):
Usually you went to college, you didn't do it any
in your first year or two, then you finally got
a couple of games your junior year, maybe maybe half
the season. Then your senior was year or maybe junior
and senior j Yeah, these dudes are getting forty in
COVID years and graduate years. These dudes are coming in
grown men full beard twenty four, twenty three. You know
what I mean, forty stars. Let's go Michael Pennis junior him, Yes,
(36:19):
Joe Burrow. These dudes are coming in with a bunch
of starts, and they're ready to go. Yeah, bow knicks
and there's no dues. They're just like ready, and that's
why I think they're not playing. They're not coming in
struggling as much because they're getting so many transferporters. R.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
I'm going to different.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Schools I'm playing, so Kayler Williams played a bunch of
big football as well.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
So these guys are coming in ready, ready for it.
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