July 30, 2025 • 28 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why Daryl Morey is the wrong guy to question the legitimacy of the Los Angeles Lakers 2020 NBA championship in The Bubble, debate whether Jerry Jones needs to bite the bullet and trade disgruntled pass rusher Micah Parsons, and argue over Tom Brady's assertion that being a good and present family man and being an all-time great athlete are not mutually exclusive.
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Rob G can you can you tell us what Darryl
Moury said about the Lakers? You kind of dissed the
organization and Lebron and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
The Athletic did a five year update post Bubble Championship
in a piece that ran earlier on Wednesday, and during
it they asked these guys for a series of questions.
You know, what was it like there, what do you remember?
And ultimately what is the Bubbles legacy in NBA circles?
Darryl Moury, former Rockets exec now with the sixth had
(01:01):
this doozy of a take. Here's what he said quote.
Had the Rockets won the title, I absolutely would have
celebrated as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience required.
Yet everyone I speak to around the League privately agrees
that it doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Really, is that where he's going?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Because I gotta tell you this, the only thing more
fraudulent than that bubble chip is Daryl Morey.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I mean, talk about a fraud.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Talk about all of the players he's moved, and all
the analytics and how smart he was and all this.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He has nothing to show for it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
How in the world could you even take that, put
that out of your mouth and say that when.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You haven't won.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Jack, Sure, you can say it ain't the greatest championship,
but it's a championship.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I don't know about you. We're counting it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
When you look at the NBA record books and you
look in the stats, and you look at the championship
by year, guess what it's in there. I hate to
break it to you, guys. There's nothing in any major
sports with an asterisk.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know they bring that up.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All of these got an asterisk next to it. No, nothing
has an asterisk next to it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Zero nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It counts they won, no matter what the circumstances were.
The only thing worse is to hear from a loser
is a guy who has it won. Seriously, keep your
mouth shut. If down Warret won three championships in three
different cities or whatever, talk all you want. He had
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one jack, Why why would you bring this up? Why
are you talking about it? And then he goes, oh,
I want I would say it was legitimate. Of course
you would do You know why, because they would have
handed you a trophy at the end. You would have
got championship checks, you would have got championship rings.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What is this.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Trust the process? I say, Hush the process. That's what
I'm saying, Darren Mory, hush. First of all, the one
thing I just said was that you just mentioned a
hipocritical He already said if I would have won, I
would have counted that. But my thing is, dude, this
is coming from a guy who trusted his system to
James Harden, who was a known, proven person that does
not elevate his game in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Right.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
This is Daryl Moray who had a chance to go
to the finals with those twenty seventeen rockets, hopefully, in
their mind, could beat the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
You know why, Rob, because the process of shooting nothing
but threes oh for twenty seven is what cost him that.
This is the same guy that goes to another organization
with the seventy six ers and brings James Harden to
hitch his wagon to Harden, who has not performed in
the playoffs or in crunch time when it actually matters.
This is the same guy that has proven to draft
got Ben Simmons doesn't work out, Markel's folds, doesn't work
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out everywhere, every all the systems and guys and processes.
It hasn't counted for anything yet. So Darren Moray is good.
If you want to start something and maybe win fifty games,
I'll give you that. I'll give you that. He can
go get it James hard and they can win. They
can find a way to do nothing but layups in
threes and they'll win fifty games. But ultimately, when we're
talking about championships, he is out of this conversation because
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he hasn't even sniffed the finals appearance, let alone actually
win a championship and a few things to remember about
the bubble and I get it. I think the better
word for the bubble is unique. It was the most
unique situation.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I have no problem.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But if people don't want to like to me, like
put it up there on a pedestal or bow down
to it. I don't have any sum to rat it
or make fun of it when you haven't won anything.
That's my issue is that of all people to have
a problem.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
With it, Phil Jackson can say that my thing about it.
That's why I use the term unique. Some people like
Lebron said it's the hardest one ever. I don't necessarily
agree with that, but I do believe it was the
most mentally challenging. I want to remave a couple of
things that folks were saying when you were if we
were called the bubble, this wasn't just the Lakers, this
wasn't just Lebron. You got Paul George. I underestimated the
(05:14):
mental health. Honestly, I had anxiety, a little bit depression
from being locked in there. I just wasn't here. I
was checked out. You go to Jalen Brown being here
in the bubble. I guess people might not speak on it,
but it is a challenge for a lot of guys.
It's like you're at work all the time. And he
goes on to say how being isolated for the rest
of society. You know, Giannis not being able to see
her family being there for three months playing games with
no fans, it's going driving you mental. So my point is,
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even you got other guys as well, to Mark de
Rozen talked about it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They don't talk.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
About how much what you call They got how much
rest and you know what I mean, and less distractions
or whatever, and you could really focus in on it
and it was a trying time. I get all the
other stuff that comes with it as well. I think
the only and I think that really helped the Lakers
with the two players that they had.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Oh to get into the paws to that, I can
understand that. That's why I said to me the word
is unique, because dude, I remember, I think, and further
we get from the bubble, I think the further we
all get.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
From remembering COVID.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I remember going to the grocery store and genuinely thinking like, man,
am I gonna get sick?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well I die?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Especially those first few months, well we didn't know what it was,
and they asked a lot of point. That last point
I'll add to it is when you talk about what
that was for the Lakers, you also have to add
in they were trying to win it for Kobe as
well there would they put that added pressure on them
selves that we want to win one for Mamba, So
they had that as well going. But that I think man,
we as humans forget how scary and how real COVID
(06:37):
was that first go round. That first six months to
a year, we didn't know what it was. People, most
of us lost family members of friends. I mean, that
was a scary situation. And to be away from your
family when they could get sick and you don't know
and you couldn't leave, that was a That was a
very scary situation. So I think it's the most unique,
the most trying. You can say it was the hardest.
We'd say it was the you know, Disney bubble one.
(06:58):
But to me, I think unique was the perfect word
for me.
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Speaker 1 (08:16):
Rob g jump in and tell us what's happening in
Big d In Dallas where I was uh.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Pressure there, which could you feel the please sign? Micah?
I did feel that. I did not feel that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know, there was of course some Cowboys talk, but
the Rangers have turned their season around, so people were
excited about baseball when.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was there. Robbed you where you got them, the
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's not looking good if you're a fan of Big
d because.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That would be.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
A fan of this is I don't even know who
you are face big time. This is crazy. I'm talking
about the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, all right, geez, but uh,
it's not looking good.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Michael Parsons, as we know, is still waiting for a
new contract. There's been a bizarre, to put it, lightly
more of words going on in the media between Jerry
Jones and Stephen Jones and Michael Parsons and you know
who should we believe? YadA, YadA Yadam Well. According to
ESPNNFL insider Adam Schefter, the two sides are quote further
away from a deal in late July heading into August
(09:25):
than they were in late March heading into April. He adds,
the two sides have gone backwards, not forwards. I don't
think they're speaking very much these days. If at all,
the negotiation when it was a negotiation, has gone sideways.
It's not even a negotiation right now. There's really no
conversation about getting a deal done.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Rob. What's going on in Dallas? What are you gonna
do right now? If you're if you're Jerry Jones, the fuck.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Jerry Jones for real? And we know he normally caves,
He goes to this whole process. We've seen them cave
a million times. For once, Jerry, is this on? It's
on here for once, Jerry. I want you to grow
a pair and do something different for a change. Do
not roll over and wind up paying it. You've already
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done it to two guys, right, Dak Prescott got ridiculous money,
Ceedee Lamb got ridiculous money, and you're gonna make the
same mistake and give a pass Rusher? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Forty three million dollars? Is that where we are?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Because let me tell you, Jerry didn't You didn't win
the championship last year with Micah, so you couldnot win
the championship next year without them.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, like, what's the difference?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And if I'm the Dallas Cowboys and I'm Jerry Jones,
and I really look at this, honestly, the Cowboys have
more holes in the golf course. Plug up some of
these holes and trade Micah Parsons and his podcast to
be named later, and go get you three pieces three
(11:01):
you know, like picks, you'll be able to cash. And
this guy's a primo player, and in order to get
you have to give. So you're giving up somebody. You're
not saying you're giving him up because he can't play.
That's not the issue. It's the money that it's gonna
cost you. And you have so many other situations. The
last time I saw Michael Parsons in a meaningful game,
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the Green Bay Packers were running up and down upside
their head. You remember that embarrassing one of the worst
losses we've ever seen in the Cowboys. In the postseason,
Michael Parsons blamed everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
He was on the field.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
He was I don't know, plus minus in the NFL,
he was probably a minus forty that game. I mean,
it was terrible. I think the time has come. I
get it. He's a great player. Sometimes you need to
make a change in what you're doing. Jerry, you've been
doing the same thing for more than three decades.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It hasn't worked.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You always cave and pay all these guys, and has
it really worked. Michael Parsons could cure so many situations
for the Cowboys after you've already overpaid two guys that
you can't do anything about. Now, I would trade Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You talking about that rolling over. You can't teach your
old dog new tricks. This is what Jerry does. Jerry
loves this. We're talking about Micah, We're talking about CD.
We were talking about Dak long extended times. Are you
gonna sign him?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Are you not?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
As the biggest conversation they win the offseason because nothing
else is really happening, and yet we're still talking about
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
He absolutely is gonna cave.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He's gonna roll over like the Pillsbury dough boy's gonna
touch the stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's right. He absolutely is gonna roll over. This is
what he does, He's done in his whole career. But
he's gonna roll over.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
And in this case I get it because of all
the other guys he rolled over for. Michael Parsons is
his best player. He's better than Dak, he's better than
CD's better than any other guys, better than spending the
block for Ezekiel Elliott like they did last season. So
to me, Michaeh Parsons, at least one thing I can
the tenth pole.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I can say plant that there. We know that's gonna
be great.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
He came back after missing four games that you still
get twelve plus sacks. I mean, he's incredible. But they
were bad their defense. The defense was bad, but they
were missing a lot of guys. Digs was out, DeMarcus
Lawrence was out. Obviously he's gone now, but Mike is out.
So you had a bunch of more missing in the
postseason though you had a missing that home player. They
just got smacked flat out.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Period.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And listen, I ain't gonna be sent up here defending
the Cowboys. That's not what I'm gonna do. But what
I am gonna say is part of fifty piece on them.
I mean, think about that. Why are you trying to
trigger people? Right, I'm just saying, Okay, I'm talking about
the Cowboys. The Cowboys absolutely have a guy that they
can plant the flag and say we know what he is,
we know what he brings. I'm not trading that guy.
Shoot I'll mess around if you what have you won
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with him? I'm just asking you. He's twenty four, six
years old. I mean, but you My point is, I
get it. I'm not that that is not the issue.
It's what are you trying to win? Are you going
to hamstring yourself by paying three guys so much money
that you can't win? Here's that that that's what that's
that's is having him? What does that mean? Here's why
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you're going to do it. Because they're gonna say, before
the injuries of last season, they were twelve and five
for three years in a row. So they're gonna say,
we've been one of the best teams on record the
three seasons before last season. Then the injury, so they're
gonna say, if everybody's back and no one's you know,
obviously injuries are part of the game, but if our
main guys aren't injured, Dak gets injured, uh, Mike's injured,
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they kind of.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Just I don't I don't have I don't have the
count away.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
And that's what but I'm saying, that's what Jerry Jones
is selling himself. He's selling himself. We went comprised when
everybody's up we're one of the best seams. We're twelve
and five, twelve and five, twelve and five, last year
blowing up. Everybody's out of quarterbacks out, Micael's out. That
don't count washing, clean slate. Here we go, and that's
what he's selling the last thirty years.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's whole.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
If you really want to say don't roll and don't cower,
it's to him. You will say us, say give the
power for one somebody else, but he would say, Kelvin Washington,
let me tell you something. Nobody knows his job better
than me. To the tune, if you not winning in
thirty years, stop it. Jerry Jones ain't changing. This is
who he is, and the man is in his eighties.
You ain't changing you in your sixties. You think he
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changed it in his eighties. That man ain't changing. Michael
Parson is about to get paid now. The other conversation
is a lesson learned from Michae who's probably gonna get
another two deals out of his career.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He's so young, two big deals. This is a lesson
to learn for him.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Stop talking about who he was and where you want
to be before you need to, especially when you're this
caliber player talking about big time money. Remember, ours want
to be a cowboy. I don't care if it get
it done, whatever it takes. I don't care if it's
not about the money for me and it's agent, Like, hey, bro,
let me agent. Because now you're in this weird situation
where Micah was all in. Remember a few months ago.
Now Michaeh's not talking. Now it seems personal. Now, this
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seems like there's some riff and some beef. And this
is why I know you like the cowboys. Let the
business side be the business side, because you're putting all
this in and and caping for the cowboys when they're
not caping for you right now. But they'll get this
this theme done. Jerry Jones likes to have the best guys. Yeah,
but but it hasn't worked out, not when you've overpaid.
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And that that that's my issue. What is your real goal?
Is your real goal trying to win a Super Bowl? Well, okay,
I don't know that it's ever fully been a well, but.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But my point is to pay him that kind of
money hamstrings you from doing that the same way that
a couple of years ago when when they resigned Ezekiel
Elliott as they're running back because they didn't have any
money and they.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Just threw there.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
They could have had Derrick Henry, but they didn't have
the money. But that's what I'm saying. If you had
the money, this is my point.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is that if you do this, you're gonna be again
the other pieces that you need bargain basement and you're
doing adding people based on just money and not paying
other people because you're so hamstrung, you know what I
mean with all these deals, three deals of this caliber
hamstrings you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It just doesn't make any sense to me. And I
get how great hero.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I think he likes subconsciously the biggest the businessman in
him likes that when you have to say the highest
paid quarterback. He's a cowboy. That makes no sense when
you're not winning, I know, But this is Jerry Jones,
and Jerry Jones wants to win. I don't think he
doesn't want to, but I think he wants to win
and also do it his way. And I think Jerry
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Jones wants to be also winning and also be winning
the headlines. So if we can have a perfect scenario,
we go twelve and five, win all the headlines, I'm
winning everything.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I look great. My stadium's big.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I got the highest paid player defensively, I got the
highest paid quarterback. It's all under the star. We all
got the Cowboys start on helmets. I think Jerry Jones
loved it. I think he wants to win games when
the show win the headlines.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think he wants to win because he didn't win
since he took over.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's been thirty years. Like, seriously, so you keep doing
the same thing. Why don't you try something different? That
shows my point. He wants to just, you know, his
own way. I don't think he knows that what he's doing.
I really don't, as much as he'll tell you. And
I know they've drafted. Well, I'm gonna get fired. Well,
he hadn't known this radio station. Don't get fired.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm just saying, does he on the station? No, I
think we're good and they were safe. You know, he'd
be firing radio people who say something about him. I
get it.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Whatever happened to Bob? Yeah, Bob on LinkedIn right now
updating his Indeed dot com.
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Speaker 3 (18:38):
Earlier this week last week.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
So this is a duo last week old topics no, no, no,
the topic that he won't go with the old stale topics. No,
this is a topic that he jumped on late like
we did Scotti Scheffler. Jordan Speif had talked about how
Scotty Scheffler, Uh, you know one, remember we talked about
fulfillment and being great is great and work hard and
(19:00):
being the best golfer, but ultimately I don't find the
most fulfillment in winning the Masters, of winning these tournaments.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's not everything in life.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And that's what he said, and George Speed kind of echoed,
I know, George Scheffler, Scotti, this is what he's about.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
He's aboutamily, he's about other things about meaning.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So that's what Tom Brady kind of jumped in on
this conversation, and he questioned, why can't you have both?
Is what TV twel said. He said, why can't you
have both? He went on to say, you can be
you know, you can be. They don't have to be
mutually excusive exclusive. You can have their different blocks on
the pyramid, but they're in the same period said, for instance,
(19:35):
I think part of being a great father is being
a great example of doing what it takes take care
of your family. I chose to be by doing football.
My dedication to the sport, in the hours, to practice,
the moments, all of that my laser focused. Essentially the paraphrase,
what he's saying is I showed my kids this is
how you can do it. But here's my problem. This
is where it get hit hypocritical for me or the
challenges that I have for this. Listen, to be great
(19:57):
at anything is gonna cost. It's gonna sacrifice. I don't
give a dang. You are what field. We know that
it's gonna take time away from family, time away from
everything to focus on that. But there comes a point,
and this is something he learned here on a podcast
Let's Go. He said that I miss years of holidays
and personal events due to football commitments, and then he
(20:17):
said you wrestle with that as you get older, and
eventually went on to say that Giselle kind of gave
him a, you know, an ultimatum. She said, look, man,
too much football. Sure it's easy for you. You get
to go play a game, and I'm here at the family,
raising kids, and what did he do. He came back
for another year of football. And that's to me where
I have an issue. What he's saying is that when
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your family comes out and tells you, look, I've sacrificed,
I've given my all, I've been here, I've done my best.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I need you home.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
We all went in on this journey for you, this
longer than most people ever in sports journey.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We need you home.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's when you got to come home. I totally disagree.
I think she was totally self. I'm with Tom Brady. Know,
don't faint whoa and don't don't for people say I
hate Tom. I'm with Tom Brady. I don't think they're
mutually exclusive, that you could only have one or the other.
There've been great people who had to sacrifice hold on them.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm gonna give it right and don't tell me like
there are anchorman.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Who worked forty years who had to miss had to
work set you know, the six o'clock in the eleven
o'clock for their family and do what they had to do.
And that's not why they broke up over one more
year of football. They had other issues. She wound up
having a baby, like eight months after they broke up.
So there was other issues. It wasn't just that he
was playing football. That was her trying to flex on him,
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like like a power struggle. No, stop playing now, he's
already played with one like he played eight years, and
it was he had played over twenty years.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
She knew what she had signed up for and knew
what he was about.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And this whole idea I got divorced when I when
I did my wife, I had three jobs. My mother
always said to me, my late mom before was like
she married you knowing this. This wasn't like you were
a banker and then you got married and then you
got three jobs and you had to go on the
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road and you worked at night or whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
This is what she signed up for. And you can't
have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You want the life, you want all this other stuff
that comes with it, and you also don't want the
man that supposedly you love all right to resent you.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
When my wife didn't want.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Me to work on the radio show that was one
of our rubs at that time, out of show from
ten pm to one am, she hated it every night,
tried to stop me from going in. Okay, she did
not want me to do it. I told her, you
don't want the Rob Parker without the radio show, because
(22:58):
if you get that Rob Parker, I will resent you
the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And I don't think you want to be with somebody.
And the same thing with Tom Brady and his wife.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Had Tom done that and not completed or feel what
he believed was was important to him.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's a give and take. It's a give and take.
But this is where I want to do.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I think she.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I think she's selfish. And this is where will fundamentally disagree.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I do believe.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And this is where it's a challenge any one of
us trying to pursue anything what we're doing. You you're
right when we when we're in a space where we're
in and if you're going good, what happens?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You know this?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
More opportunities come. Hey, you want to host this?
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You want to be home now?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Not serious? Right? You could be home now, okay, but
absolutely you could be home.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You could do your job in the morning news, come home,
take a nap, do your kids, homework, whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But no, this is something you gotta have. You have
passion for radio.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You want to do this this is gonna be good
for your family ultimately and your wife.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
This is this is where I'm going. I agree. This
is where it becomes a challenge.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And this is where I brought up when you feel
as if this is becoming too much for everybody, and
this is why it is never gonna be a perfect equation.
Right this use Kobe Bryant for an example. Kobe Bryant.
We know how Manaiako about his approach was. He said,
friends come and go, banners last forever. Right, he sacrificed
so much. We know that sacrifice simon his daughters. We
(24:24):
know that it's documented. He expressed that. And on the
other side, you finally get to the place where I
finally get to get that. And that's the challenge. Was
you have to realize what's gonna matter to me most.
Is it gonna be I went that extra few years,
or I got that extra job, or is it the
memories that I had? And each person is different. I
think Tom Brady would do it again again. By the way,
(24:45):
I think Tom Brady would do it again, like losing
a fan all that suff I think he would put it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But I think it's naive to believe that that was
the only reason I believe that they had already had
other issues, because you could work through that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
He's not gonna play forever.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The idea that she gave him an ultimatum about one
more season doesn't make he can't play till he's fifty.
If you really love Tom Brady, you got to say
he's going to retire and then I'll have it back.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
But my real question, why is it not the reverse?
If you really love your wife and she says, hey, babe,
I've given you my all? Can you just not you
got not that time? What six super Bowl rings?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Can you? Can? You just can?
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Can? I?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Can? I? Can we be question? Can I be honest?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I don't know what their living situation, but I'm sure
she had plenty of help, cooking, helping with the kids.
It ain't like she's lugging kids on the bus and
all that. I'm dead serious. You O, no, no, no,
I want to be with you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
They only play four months out of the year. It's
a cop out by her. That is the end of
the world.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They only play four months September through December or whatever February.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Four months of work. You're working off season, you're doing
this your round.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
No, you're not working during the night or missing dinner
at that time. You got four months rock g jumping,
rock g jumping around with kids. Kids want you stop it,
rob G. There's nobody who's ever made it big in
life that went to every little league that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You go look at the God. That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The best people all the I'm talking about people at
the biggest job, made the most money, did not at
every little league.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And that is the point of where you have. No,
that's a fact. Rob G knows not.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
This past week the week before is the first time
I ever missed my daughter's basketball game. I told her
I was saying a big moment and I was sick.
But I also know daddy makes ninety whatever percent of everything.
I'm there for recitals on there. But I agree you
have to go through some sacrifices to get where you
want to go for greatness. But all I'm saying is
still win scoreless even with you not there. What's the difference?
(26:52):
Almost on the table, I saw black, I saw red
almost what my baby got buckets last week to every
won the game. Two others, G where are you Rogerie
gonna be watched out talking to me you sound like
a man who is single, living his life, ain't got
no kids, ain't got no one. And then who go
to I almost want to call you x Y. No,
you don't want that. I'm you're gonna resent hey. You
(27:15):
know what marriage is about the real story. I mean,
let me give you a real story. I would I
would have resented her.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I would have.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
But that's crazy. So let me give you a real story.
Matter of fact, let me give you a real story.
Let's talk of the number real quick and eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
All right, rob g did you give me a teas on?
You told me to weigh in on this? And then
I'm just waiting here for a second. Y'all gotta be
fired over you go ahead. Look.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Tom Brady said it was the best on his own podcast.
By the way, quote, I haven't had a Christmas in
twenty three years. I had a Thanksgiving in twenty three years.
I haven't celebrated birthdays with people I care about that
were born from August to January. I haven't been to
funerals or weddings. My guy, you had already been playing
for two decades and you still signed up again. Tom
(28:01):
Brady didn't care about his you know, relatively, did not
care about his family like that. His love was football.
He chose football. His wife had a great life with
all the other stuff. Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Come on, man, she had a great life.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And when she had to go do a shoot somewhere
in Paris or whatever, she went and did it and
made that money and left the kids with.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
This is how I know you ain't never getting made again, right,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 1 (00:28):
Rob G can you can you tell us what Darryl
Moury said about the Lakers? You kind of dissed the
organization and Lebron and everybody else.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
The Athletic did a five year update post Bubble Championship
in a piece that ran earlier on Wednesday, and during
it they asked these guys for a series of questions.
You know, what was it like there, what do you remember?
And ultimately what is the Bubbles legacy in NBA circles?
Darryl Moury, former Rockets exec now with the sixth had
(01:01):
this doozy of a take. Here's what he said quote.
Had the Rockets won the title, I absolutely would have
celebrated as legitimate, knowing the immense effort and resilience required.
Yet everyone I speak to around the League privately agrees
that it doesn't truly hold up as a genuine championship.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Really, is that where he's going?
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Because I gotta tell you this, the only thing more
fraudulent than that bubble chip is Daryl Morey.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
I mean, talk about a fraud.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Talk about all of the players he's moved, and all
the analytics and how smart he was and all this.
Speaker 3 (01:44):
He has nothing to show for it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
How in the world could you even take that, put
that out of your mouth and say that when.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
You haven't won.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Jack, Sure, you can say it ain't the greatest championship,
but it's a championship.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I don't know about you. We're counting it.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
When you look at the NBA record books and you
look in the stats, and you look at the championship
by year, guess what it's in there. I hate to
break it to you, guys. There's nothing in any major
sports with an asterisk.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
I know they bring that up.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
All of these got an asterisk next to it. No, nothing
has an asterisk next to it.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Zero nothing.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
It counts they won, no matter what the circumstances were.
The only thing worse is to hear from a loser
is a guy who has it won. Seriously, keep your
mouth shut. If down Warret won three championships in three
different cities or whatever, talk all you want. He had
(02:49):
one jack, Why why would you bring this up? Why
are you talking about it? And then he goes, oh,
I want I would say it was legitimate. Of course
you would do You know why, because they would have
handed you a trophy at the end. You would have
got championship checks, you would have got championship rings.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
What is this.
Speaker 5 (03:10):
Trust the process? I say, Hush the process. That's what
I'm saying, Darren Mory, hush. First of all, the one
thing I just said was that you just mentioned a
hipocritical He already said if I would have won, I
would have counted that. But my thing is, dude, this
is coming from a guy who trusted his system to
James Harden, who was a known, proven person that does
not elevate his game in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (03:32):
Right.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
This is Daryl Moray who had a chance to go
to the finals with those twenty seventeen rockets, hopefully, in
their mind, could beat the Warriors.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
They don't.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
You know why, Rob, because the process of shooting nothing
but threes oh for twenty seven is what cost him that.
This is the same guy that goes to another organization
with the seventy six ers and brings James Harden to
hitch his wagon to Harden, who has not performed in
the playoffs or in crunch time when it actually matters.
This is the same guy that has proven to draft
got Ben Simmons doesn't work out, Markel's folds, doesn't work
(04:01):
out everywhere, every all the systems and guys and processes.
It hasn't counted for anything yet. So Darren Moray is good.
If you want to start something and maybe win fifty games,
I'll give you that. I'll give you that. He can
go get it James hard and they can win. They
can find a way to do nothing but layups in
threes and they'll win fifty games. But ultimately, when we're
talking about championships, he is out of this conversation because
(04:21):
he hasn't even sniffed the finals appearance, let alone actually
win a championship and a few things to remember about
the bubble and I get it. I think the better
word for the bubble is unique. It was the most
unique situation.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
I have no problem.
Speaker 1 (04:35):
But if people don't want to like to me, like
put it up there on a pedestal or bow down
to it. I don't have any sum to rat it
or make fun of it when you haven't won anything.
That's my issue is that of all people to have
a problem.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
With it, Phil Jackson can say that my thing about it.
That's why I use the term unique. Some people like
Lebron said it's the hardest one ever. I don't necessarily
agree with that, but I do believe it was the
most mentally challenging. I want to remave a couple of
things that folks were saying when you were if we
were called the bubble, this wasn't just the Lakers, this
wasn't just Lebron. You got Paul George. I underestimated the
(05:14):
mental health. Honestly, I had anxiety, a little bit depression
from being locked in there. I just wasn't here. I
was checked out. You go to Jalen Brown being here
in the bubble. I guess people might not speak on it,
but it is a challenge for a lot of guys.
It's like you're at work all the time. And he
goes on to say how being isolated for the rest
of society. You know, Giannis not being able to see
her family being there for three months playing games with
no fans, it's going driving you mental. So my point is,
(05:37):
even you got other guys as well, to Mark de
Rozen talked about it.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
They don't talk.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
About how much what you call They got how much
rest and you know what I mean, and less distractions
or whatever, and you could really focus in on it
and it was a trying time. I get all the
other stuff that comes with it as well. I think
the only and I think that really helped the Lakers
with the two players that they had.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Oh to get into the paws to that, I can
understand that. That's why I said to me the word
is unique, because dude, I remember, I think, and further
we get from the bubble, I think the further we
all get.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
From remembering COVID.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
I remember going to the grocery store and genuinely thinking like, man,
am I gonna get sick?
Speaker 3 (06:14):
Well I die?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Especially those first few months, well we didn't know what it was,
and they asked a lot of point. That last point
I'll add to it is when you talk about what
that was for the Lakers, you also have to add
in they were trying to win it for Kobe as
well there would they put that added pressure on them
selves that we want to win one for Mamba, So
they had that as well going. But that I think man,
we as humans forget how scary and how real COVID
(06:37):
was that first go round. That first six months to
a year, we didn't know what it was. People, most
of us lost family members of friends. I mean, that
was a scary situation. And to be away from your
family when they could get sick and you don't know
and you couldn't leave, that was a That was a
very scary situation. So I think it's the most unique,
the most trying. You can say it was the hardest.
We'd say it was the you know, Disney bubble one.
(06:58):
But to me, I think unique was the perfect word
for me.
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Speaker 1 (08:16):
Rob g jump in and tell us what's happening in
Big d In Dallas where I was uh.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Pressure there, which could you feel the please sign? Micah?
I did feel that. I did not feel that.
Speaker 1 (08:31):
You know, there was of course some Cowboys talk, but
the Rangers have turned their season around, so people were
excited about baseball when.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
I was there. Robbed you where you got them, the
Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's not looking good if you're a fan of Big
d because.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
That would be.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
A fan of this is I don't even know who
you are face big time. This is crazy. I'm talking
about the Dallas Cowboys. Okay, all right, geez, but uh,
it's not looking good.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
Michael Parsons, as we know, is still waiting for a
new contract. There's been a bizarre, to put it, lightly
more of words going on in the media between Jerry
Jones and Stephen Jones and Michael Parsons and you know
who should we believe? YadA, YadA Yadam Well. According to
ESPNNFL insider Adam Schefter, the two sides are quote further
away from a deal in late July heading into August
(09:25):
than they were in late March heading into April. He adds,
the two sides have gone backwards, not forwards. I don't
think they're speaking very much these days. If at all,
the negotiation when it was a negotiation, has gone sideways.
It's not even a negotiation right now. There's really no
conversation about getting a deal done.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Rob. What's going on in Dallas? What are you gonna
do right now? If you're if you're Jerry Jones, the fuck.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Jerry Jones for real? And we know he normally caves,
He goes to this whole process. We've seen them cave
a million times. For once, Jerry, is this on? It's
on here for once, Jerry. I want you to grow
a pair and do something different for a change. Do
not roll over and wind up paying it. You've already
(10:15):
done it to two guys, right, Dak Prescott got ridiculous money,
Ceedee Lamb got ridiculous money, and you're gonna make the
same mistake and give a pass Rusher? Right?
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Forty three million dollars? Is that where we are?
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Because let me tell you, Jerry didn't You didn't win
the championship last year with Micah, so you couldnot win
the championship next year without them.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
I mean, like, what's the difference?
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And if I'm the Dallas Cowboys and I'm Jerry Jones,
and I really look at this, honestly, the Cowboys have
more holes in the golf course. Plug up some of
these holes and trade Micah Parsons and his podcast to
be named later, and go get you three pieces three
(11:01):
you know, like picks, you'll be able to cash. And
this guy's a primo player, and in order to get
you have to give. So you're giving up somebody. You're
not saying you're giving him up because he can't play.
That's not the issue. It's the money that it's gonna
cost you. And you have so many other situations. The
last time I saw Michael Parsons in a meaningful game,
(11:24):
the Green Bay Packers were running up and down upside
their head. You remember that embarrassing one of the worst
losses we've ever seen in the Cowboys. In the postseason,
Michael Parsons blamed everybody else.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
He was on the field.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
He was I don't know, plus minus in the NFL,
he was probably a minus forty that game. I mean,
it was terrible. I think the time has come. I
get it. He's a great player. Sometimes you need to
make a change in what you're doing. Jerry, you've been
doing the same thing for more than three decades.
Speaker 3 (12:00):
It hasn't worked.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
You always cave and pay all these guys, and has
it really worked. Michael Parsons could cure so many situations
for the Cowboys after you've already overpaid two guys that
you can't do anything about. Now, I would trade Michael Parsons.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
You talking about that rolling over. You can't teach your
old dog new tricks. This is what Jerry does. Jerry
loves this. We're talking about Micah, We're talking about CD.
We were talking about Dak long extended times. Are you
gonna sign him?
Speaker 3 (12:36):
Are you not?
Speaker 5 (12:36):
As the biggest conversation they win the offseason because nothing
else is really happening, and yet we're still talking about
the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
He absolutely is gonna cave.
Speaker 5 (12:43):
He's gonna roll over like the Pillsbury dough boy's gonna
touch the stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
That's right. He absolutely is gonna roll over. This is
what he does, He's done in his whole career. But
he's gonna roll over.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
And in this case I get it because of all
the other guys he rolled over for. Michael Parsons is
his best player. He's better than Dak, he's better than
CD's better than any other guys, better than spending the
block for Ezekiel Elliott like they did last season. So
to me, Michaeh Parsons, at least one thing I can
the tenth pole.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
I can say plant that there. We know that's gonna
be great.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
He came back after missing four games that you still
get twelve plus sacks. I mean, he's incredible. But they
were bad their defense. The defense was bad, but they
were missing a lot of guys. Digs was out, DeMarcus
Lawrence was out. Obviously he's gone now, but Mike is out.
So you had a bunch of more missing in the
postseason though you had a missing that home player. They
just got smacked flat out.
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Period.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
And listen, I ain't gonna be sent up here defending
the Cowboys. That's not what I'm gonna do. But what
I am gonna say is part of fifty piece on them.
I mean, think about that. Why are you trying to
trigger people? Right, I'm just saying, Okay, I'm talking about
the Cowboys. The Cowboys absolutely have a guy that they
can plant the flag and say we know what he is,
we know what he brings. I'm not trading that guy.
Shoot I'll mess around if you what have you won
(13:52):
with him? I'm just asking you. He's twenty four, six
years old. I mean, but you My point is, I
get it. I'm not that that is not the issue.
It's what are you trying to win? Are you going
to hamstring yourself by paying three guys so much money
that you can't win? Here's that that that's what that's
that's is having him? What does that mean? Here's why
(14:15):
you're going to do it. Because they're gonna say, before
the injuries of last season, they were twelve and five
for three years in a row. So they're gonna say,
we've been one of the best teams on record the
three seasons before last season. Then the injury, so they're
gonna say, if everybody's back and no one's you know,
obviously injuries are part of the game, but if our
main guys aren't injured, Dak gets injured, uh, Mike's injured,
(14:35):
they kind of.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Just I don't I don't have I don't have the
count away.
Speaker 5 (14:39):
And that's what but I'm saying, that's what Jerry Jones
is selling himself. He's selling himself. We went comprised when
everybody's up we're one of the best seams. We're twelve
and five, twelve and five, twelve and five, last year
blowing up. Everybody's out of quarterbacks out, Micael's out. That
don't count washing, clean slate. Here we go, and that's
what he's selling the last thirty years.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
That's whole.
Speaker 5 (14:58):
If you really want to say don't roll and don't cower,
it's to him. You will say us, say give the
power for one somebody else, but he would say, Kelvin Washington,
let me tell you something. Nobody knows his job better
than me. To the tune, if you not winning in
thirty years, stop it. Jerry Jones ain't changing. This is
who he is, and the man is in his eighties.
You ain't changing you in your sixties. You think he
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changed it in his eighties. That man ain't changing. Michael
Parson is about to get paid now. The other conversation
is a lesson learned from Michae who's probably gonna get
another two deals out of his career.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
He's so young, two big deals. This is a lesson
to learn for him.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
Stop talking about who he was and where you want
to be before you need to, especially when you're this
caliber player talking about big time money. Remember, ours want
to be a cowboy. I don't care if it get
it done, whatever it takes. I don't care if it's
not about the money for me and it's agent, Like, hey, bro,
let me agent. Because now you're in this weird situation
where Micah was all in. Remember a few months ago.
Now Michaeh's not talking. Now it seems personal. Now, this
(15:54):
seems like there's some riff and some beef. And this
is why I know you like the cowboys. Let the
business side be the business side, because you're putting all
this in and and caping for the cowboys when they're
not caping for you right now. But they'll get this
this theme done. Jerry Jones likes to have the best guys. Yeah,
but but it hasn't worked out, not when you've overpaid.
(16:16):
And that that that's my issue. What is your real goal?
Is your real goal trying to win a Super Bowl? Well, okay,
I don't know that it's ever fully been a well, but.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
But my point is to pay him that kind of
money hamstrings you from doing that the same way that
a couple of years ago when when they resigned Ezekiel
Elliott as they're running back because they didn't have any
money and they.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Just threw there.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
They could have had Derrick Henry, but they didn't have
the money. But that's what I'm saying. If you had
the money, this is my point.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Is that if you do this, you're gonna be again
the other pieces that you need bargain basement and you're
doing adding people based on just money and not paying
other people because you're so hamstrung, you know what I
mean with all these deals, three deals of this caliber
hamstrings you.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
It just doesn't make any sense to me. And I
get how great hero.
Speaker 5 (17:09):
I think he likes subconsciously the biggest the businessman in
him likes that when you have to say the highest
paid quarterback. He's a cowboy. That makes no sense when
you're not winning, I know, But this is Jerry Jones,
and Jerry Jones wants to win. I don't think he
doesn't want to, but I think he wants to win
and also do it his way. And I think Jerry
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Jones wants to be also winning and also be winning
the headlines. So if we can have a perfect scenario,
we go twelve and five, win all the headlines, I'm
winning everything.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
I look great. My stadium's big.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
I got the highest paid player defensively, I got the
highest paid quarterback. It's all under the star. We all
got the Cowboys start on helmets. I think Jerry Jones
loved it. I think he wants to win games when
the show win the headlines.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I think he wants to win because he didn't win
since he took over.
Speaker 1 (17:53):
It's been thirty years. Like, seriously, so you keep doing
the same thing. Why don't you try something different? That
shows my point. He wants to just, you know, his
own way. I don't think he knows that what he's doing.
I really don't, as much as he'll tell you. And
I know they've drafted. Well, I'm gonna get fired. Well,
he hadn't known this radio station. Don't get fired.
Speaker 3 (18:14):
I'm just saying, does he on the station? No, I
think we're good and they were safe. You know, he'd
be firing radio people who say something about him. I
get it.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
Whatever happened to Bob? Yeah, Bob on LinkedIn right now
updating his Indeed dot com.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Earlier this week last week.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
So this is a duo last week old topics no, no, no,
the topic that he won't go with the old stale topics. No,
this is a topic that he jumped on late like
we did Scotti Scheffler. Jordan Speif had talked about how
Scotty Scheffler, Uh, you know one, remember we talked about
fulfillment and being great is great and work hard and
(19:00):
being the best golfer, but ultimately I don't find the
most fulfillment in winning the Masters, of winning these tournaments.
Speaker 3 (19:05):
It's not everything in life.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
And that's what he said, and George Speed kind of echoed,
I know, George Scheffler, Scotti, this is what he's about.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
He's aboutamily, he's about other things about meaning.
Speaker 5 (19:14):
So that's what Tom Brady kind of jumped in on
this conversation, and he questioned, why can't you have both?
Is what TV twel said. He said, why can't you
have both? He went on to say, you can be
you know, you can be. They don't have to be
mutually excusive exclusive. You can have their different blocks on
the pyramid, but they're in the same period said, for instance,
(19:35):
I think part of being a great father is being
a great example of doing what it takes take care
of your family. I chose to be by doing football.
My dedication to the sport, in the hours, to practice,
the moments, all of that my laser focused. Essentially the paraphrase,
what he's saying is I showed my kids this is
how you can do it. But here's my problem. This
is where it get hit hypocritical for me or the
challenges that I have for this. Listen, to be great
(19:57):
at anything is gonna cost. It's gonna sacrifice. I don't
give a dang. You are what field. We know that
it's gonna take time away from family, time away from
everything to focus on that. But there comes a point,
and this is something he learned here on a podcast
Let's Go. He said that I miss years of holidays
and personal events due to football commitments, and then he
(20:17):
said you wrestle with that as you get older, and
eventually went on to say that Giselle kind of gave
him a, you know, an ultimatum. She said, look, man,
too much football. Sure it's easy for you. You get
to go play a game, and I'm here at the family,
raising kids, and what did he do. He came back
for another year of football. And that's to me where
I have an issue. What he's saying is that when
(20:38):
your family comes out and tells you, look, I've sacrificed,
I've given my all, I've been here, I've done my best.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I need you home.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
We all went in on this journey for you, this
longer than most people ever in sports journey.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
We need you home.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
That's when you got to come home. I totally disagree.
I think she was totally self. I'm with Tom Brady. Know,
don't faint whoa and don't don't for people say I
hate Tom. I'm with Tom Brady. I don't think they're
mutually exclusive, that you could only have one or the other.
There've been great people who had to sacrifice hold on them.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
I'm gonna give it right and don't tell me like
there are anchorman.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Who worked forty years who had to miss had to
work set you know, the six o'clock in the eleven
o'clock for their family and do what they had to do.
And that's not why they broke up over one more
year of football. They had other issues. She wound up
having a baby, like eight months after they broke up.
So there was other issues. It wasn't just that he
was playing football. That was her trying to flex on him,
(21:42):
like like a power struggle. No, stop playing now, he's
already played with one like he played eight years, and
it was he had played over twenty years.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
She knew what she had signed up for and knew
what he was about.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
And this whole idea I got divorced when I when
I did my wife, I had three jobs. My mother
always said to me, my late mom before was like
she married you knowing this. This wasn't like you were
a banker and then you got married and then you
got three jobs and you had to go on the
(22:17):
road and you worked at night or whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
This is what she signed up for. And you can't
have it both ways.
Speaker 1 (22:24):
You want the life, you want all this other stuff
that comes with it, and you also don't want the
man that supposedly you love all right to resent you.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
When my wife didn't want.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Me to work on the radio show that was one
of our rubs at that time, out of show from
ten pm to one am, she hated it every night,
tried to stop me from going in. Okay, she did
not want me to do it. I told her, you
don't want the Rob Parker without the radio show, because
(22:58):
if you get that Rob Parker, I will resent you
the rest of my life.
Speaker 3 (23:02):
And I don't think you want to be with somebody.
And the same thing with Tom Brady and his wife.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Had Tom done that and not completed or feel what
he believed was was important to him.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
It's a give and take. It's a give and take.
But this is where I want to do.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
I think she.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I think she's selfish. And this is where will fundamentally disagree.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
I do believe.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And this is where it's a challenge any one of
us trying to pursue anything what we're doing. You you're
right when we when we're in a space where we're
in and if you're going good, what happens?
Speaker 2 (23:34):
You know this?
Speaker 3 (23:35):
More opportunities come. Hey, you want to host this?
Speaker 5 (23:37):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (23:37):
You want to be home now?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Right?
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Not serious? Right? You could be home now, okay, but
absolutely you could be home.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
You could do your job in the morning news, come home,
take a nap, do your kids, homework, whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
But no, this is something you gotta have. You have
passion for radio.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You want to do this this is gonna be good
for your family ultimately and your wife.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
This is this is where I'm going. I agree. This
is where it becomes a challenge.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
And this is where I brought up when you feel
as if this is becoming too much for everybody, and
this is why it is never gonna be a perfect equation.
Right this use Kobe Bryant for an example. Kobe Bryant.
We know how Manaiako about his approach was. He said,
friends come and go, banners last forever. Right, he sacrificed
so much. We know that sacrifice simon his daughters. We
(24:24):
know that it's documented. He expressed that. And on the
other side, you finally get to the place where I
finally get to get that. And that's the challenge. Was
you have to realize what's gonna matter to me most.
Is it gonna be I went that extra few years,
or I got that extra job, or is it the
memories that I had? And each person is different. I
think Tom Brady would do it again again. By the way,
(24:45):
I think Tom Brady would do it again, like losing
a fan all that suff I think he would put it.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
But I think it's naive to believe that that was
the only reason I believe that they had already had
other issues, because you could work through that.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
He's not gonna play forever.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
The idea that she gave him an ultimatum about one
more season doesn't make he can't play till he's fifty.
If you really love Tom Brady, you got to say
he's going to retire and then I'll have it back.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
But my real question, why is it not the reverse?
If you really love your wife and she says, hey, babe,
I've given you my all? Can you just not you
got not that time? What six super Bowl rings?
Speaker 3 (25:23):
Can you? Can? You just can?
Speaker 7 (25:25):
Can? I?
Speaker 3 (25:25):
Can? I? Can we be question? Can I be honest?
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I don't know what their living situation, but I'm sure
she had plenty of help, cooking, helping with the kids.
It ain't like she's lugging kids on the bus and
all that. I'm dead serious. You O, no, no, no,
I want to be with you.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
They only play four months out of the year. It's
a cop out by her. That is the end of
the world.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
They only play four months September through December or whatever February.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
Four months of work. You're working off season, you're doing
this your round.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
No, you're not working during the night or missing dinner
at that time. You got four months rock g jumping,
rock g jumping around with kids. Kids want you stop it,
rob G. There's nobody who's ever made it big in
life that went to every little league that.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
You go look at the God. That's a fact.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The best people all the I'm talking about people at
the biggest job, made the most money, did not at
every little league.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
And that is the point of where you have. No,
that's a fact. Rob G knows not.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
This past week the week before is the first time
I ever missed my daughter's basketball game. I told her
I was saying a big moment and I was sick.
But I also know daddy makes ninety whatever percent of everything.
I'm there for recitals on there. But I agree you
have to go through some sacrifices to get where you
want to go for greatness. But all I'm saying is
still win scoreless even with you not there. What's the difference?
(26:52):
Almost on the table, I saw black, I saw red
almost what my baby got buckets last week to every
won the game. Two others, G where are you Rogerie
gonna be watched out talking to me you sound like
a man who is single, living his life, ain't got
no kids, ain't got no one. And then who go
to I almost want to call you x Y. No,
you don't want that. I'm you're gonna resent hey. You
(27:15):
know what marriage is about the real story. I mean,
let me give you a real story. I would I
would have resented her.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
I would have.
Speaker 5 (27:21):
But that's crazy. So let me give you a real story.
Matter of fact, let me give you a real story.
Let's talk of the number real quick and eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
All right, rob g did you give me a teas on?
You told me to weigh in on this? And then
I'm just waiting here for a second. Y'all gotta be
fired over you go ahead. Look.
Speaker 4 (27:38):
Tom Brady said it was the best on his own podcast.
By the way, quote, I haven't had a Christmas in
twenty three years. I had a Thanksgiving in twenty three years.
I haven't celebrated birthdays with people I care about that
were born from August to January. I haven't been to
funerals or weddings. My guy, you had already been playing
for two decades and you still signed up again. Tom
(28:01):
Brady didn't care about his you know, relatively, did not
care about his family like that. His love was football.
He chose football. His wife had a great life with
all the other stuff. Are you kidding?
Speaker 3 (28:16):
Come on, man, she had a great life.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And when she had to go do a shoot somewhere
in Paris or whatever, she went and did it and
made that money and left the kids with.
Speaker 3 (28:25):
This is how I know you ain't never getting made again, right,
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