August 1, 2025 • 33 mins
Former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam is in for Kelvin, and he and Rob debate whether or not Jerry Jones should give in to Micah Parsons' trade demands,
and argue over whether Micah Parsons is really serious about wanting a trade out of Dallas. Plus, NBC Dallas-Ft Worth host Newy Scruggs swings by to discuss Micah Parsons' trade demands out of Dallas, how much blame Jerry Jones deserves for this latest Cowboys debacle, whether we can expect Parsons to get a new contract before the season starts, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
And I'm not saying that I told you so, but
I told you so. And I feel even stronger today
than I did the other day when I said that
the Dallas Cowboys should trade. Turn off your Micah Parsons. Okay,
Rob G what's the news of today?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah? So Rob's been beating this drum for months now.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
In Find We did this topic earlier this week, where
Rob was a he man, I think it's time for
Jarrah to trade Micah Parsons.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Apparently Micah listens to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, he wants to hear a quality program, not that
awful pot cast that he does, so he put out
a lengthy statement on Friday that reads, in part, talking
about his time in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Quote, Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here in Dallas.
I no longer want to be held to close door
negotiations without my agent present. I no longer want shots
taken at me for getting injured while laying on the
line for the organization, our fans, and my teammates.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I no longer want.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Narratives created and spread to the media about me. I
had purposely stayed quiet and hopes with getting something done.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But no, don't let the door hit you on the
way out. That's why I feel like, and you know what,
I get it for me. He's a great player. We
know that great players move on. Great players have been traded.
Sometimes you need to move forward. And one thing that
Jerry has done his entire career, he is.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
The cave king.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
He's caved all the time when it comes to these players,
you know, wait around, wait around, and then he oh, yeah,
you know, not doing that whatever, and any caves and
gives Dak Prescott sixty million dollars like he always CA's Jerry,
none of this has ever worked for you, And they
got news for you.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
As great as Michael Parsons is.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You cannot win the Super Bowl with Michael Parsons like
you have done the last few years. And you cannot
win the Super Bowl. You haven't done it with them,
so why can't you do it without them? Either way,
you're not winning.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
The super Bowl? What is the real difference.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm serious, And you know what, you could get a
haul for him and plug up those holes.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
The cowboys have more holes than the golf course.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And I would be more than willing if I'm Jerry
Jones to do something different. You want out, You'll regret this.
You don't want to play in Big d You don't
want to be a cowboy. All this stuff you got,
your podcast and these commercials all come from being with
the Dallas Cowboys. Take your butt to Tennessee or some
other place and go see if you get all all
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this stuff.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
If I'm Jerry, I'm putting on my cowboy boots and
I'm kicking ass, and I'm telling Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Get out. You don't want to be here, We don't
want you here. Good riddance a reever.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Dirty, you didn't know I was about lingual digit Yeah,
he from. I'm dead serious enough already.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, I guess say it with your chest. I
just got her on my chest after that. You all right,
Look now, all of that ranting and raving. You've done.
That's great. Now the problem isn't Michael Parsons in this.
Michael Parsons has done nothing but excel at the position
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he was drafted.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Did you watch the playoff game against the Packers at home?
Did you watch that?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So, Michael Parsons, what I do know? Did you watch
that game? What I do know is an individual player
is not the sum of a game. Do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But I don't.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yes, I do, And I love that. One game doesn't
make I didn't say one game, so go look at
the first I just get.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
What you do is just point out a game.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
All I'm saying is, but what.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I'm telling you is in the league of in NFL, well,
what do we what do we? What do we know?
We need? You need a quarterback? Right, you need a
left tackle?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
You got a sixty million dollars, need.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
An edge rusher. Those are the three positions. Get a
different You have to have about a different one. He
doesn't have a podcast because they're not interested in stuff outside.
We're players with Cincinnati. Cincinnati and Trey are having about a.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Guy who doesn't have a playofcast, who's all the way
in who doesn't go on his podcast and rip his
teammates and tell them that they're the reason that they
lost the playoff game and that he played well.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So is that the don't like him is because of
the podcast or because of his play on the field.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Both, all of it, all of it together.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
All I'm saying is you haven't won a super Bowl
with him, so you cannot win one without him.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
It's just a simple. As much as you want to
believe Ephraim.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
That he's gonna be the reason that they don't win,
I'm sorry, but Jerry has a thirty year head start
on Michael Parsons and it ain't gonna be about him
and the reason the Cowboys win or don't win.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Michael Parsons has been nothing but excellent for them. Okay,
so case in point, In four years, Michael Parsons has
fifty two point five sacks.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
How many wins do that happen?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Matt?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Wait, wait he can't. You just went on a whole
rampage about how Jerry is bad at this thing called
gmming by paying people late and what you just want
a whole rent about how Jerry is is not up
to snuff when it comes to building out the roster
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and paying people when they should and he waits and
does all of that. You can't put the onus on
a player that the Dallas Cowboys have been irrelevant for
twenty plus years thirty That has nothing to do with
Michael Parsons. What it does have to do Michael Parsons is.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Show me how Michael passes at thirteen sacks and numbers.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But that's that's the metric, That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Sports has a short.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
No no no, no, no, no losses.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
When it matter. Robert wins and lost.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Robert Parker, Robert Eugene Parker, Robert, that's Rob Robert, Equanimious Parker,
Robert Lee and I would be like, oh, players, if
Michael Parsons hadn't had double digit sason each year, the
first thing you would be talking about are his stats.
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But because he has performed, he has shown up. Thirteen sacks,
thirteen and a half fourteen sacks, twelve sacks, fifty two
and a half sacks in four years is what you
draft someone in the first round to do. He's answered
that he did that, and he got to remember the
first year they had him playing linebacker, outside linebacker, inside,
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linebacker put him over there. They didn't they didn't know
what he was, and he still outperformed there ineptness. So
what I'm telling you as a player, if you look
at what he said, right, the negotiation style that did
that Jerry and Steven and the Dallas Cowboy use is
they tried to get him in a room and negotiate
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with him without his representation. They just he came in
there to talk about something else and they start talking
about numbers in contracts. Shut after he after he But
what I'm saying is after he left that that meeting,
his agent was informed to deal is all but done.
When you don't run your business like you supposed to
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run your business like other successful franchises are running their business,
then this is what you get.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
You're gonna give you some reporter you can give me.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
That's what you doing. You're a reporter.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
I want to give you some reporting.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And this is according to a NFL media reporter, Jane Slater,
the Cowboys internally discussed the idea of trading Micah two
years ago before Jerry shot it down. Slater added that
Michael's te comments on his podcast rubb teammates the wrong way. Yes,
and that the team didn't always believe when he called
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himself the leader of the team. And one coach even
said quote, nearly every player was in my office telling
us we needed to do something about him. That's that's
from a coach, an anonymous coach there who says.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That there was you know what, guess when the Dallas
Cowboys could have got maximum value for Michael since take
a guess what do you think.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
He's that great?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
He's great. Listen to what I'm saying. In all of
your years of covering the league and being in those rooms,
the room where it happens.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
During the draft, you could do it pre draft.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
During the draft is when you could have got a
king's ransom for a player. It's like Michael Parker of
his caliber, you could still do it. Once again, what
I'm telling you is they've mismanaged it and they're not
maximizing the value of the trade. They're doing it all
over again.
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Speaker 6 (10:52):
So here we are with the.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Big news of the day, which is that Michael Parsons
has u said and told the Cowboys now that they
want he wants to be traded. Rob g He made
a demand right on social media. Yeah, he put out.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
The lengthy statement reads in part, Unfortunately, I no longer
want to be here in Dallas. I no longer want
to be held to closed door negotiation without my agent president.
I no longer want shot taken and me for getting
injured while laying it on the line for the organization,
our fans, and my teammates.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
What's interesting, though about this.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Whole situation, because we know that there's been some bad
blood brewing now for a couple of weeks, it has
been well reported, well documented, is in the wake of
this trade demand. About an hour later, longtime Cowboys reporter
arguably the best one they have in decades, Edwarder.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
I don't know who's he working for now.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I think he's independent at this Yeah, because he was
with ESPN.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
They let him go, he came back, and then they
let him go again.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Put out it's really good.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
A very interesting tweet saying that the trade demand still stands,
but Micah Parsons has no intention of leaving training can
during this trade request as such, an act of result
in him incurrying fifty thousand dollars in daily fine.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is why I call Michael Parsons a fraud, a phony,
because if you're serious about it, no, no, no, he
from doing hi. Hold on, okay, If you're serious about it,
there's a way you go about it to let them
know that you're not playing games. And when you show
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up because you don't want to lose any money, they're like,
he ain't going nowhere. This is just a negotiation ploy
and all that stuff he from. When I was ready
to get divorced, I didn't make a threat. No, I
was on even mad at one time. I didn't make
a threat. I got a moving van.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Do you see the difference. I'm not threatening you that
I'm gonna lead.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Does she want the divorce? It? Did you?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I wanted to divorce. I got the truck, Alex. Does
that make sense to you? If you're serious about it,
you gotta be about it. Michael Parsons, your man crush
home run just so you know, that's not the judge.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I already knew what you were talking about. That's that
you just said a three yearun bomb in Miami. Unbelievable.
Man crush. I don't have a man crush. What No,
I'm just saying that, if you're serious, you let people know.
The reason that your union has been terrible and you
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don't have the healthcare and the pension that you should
have is because they haven't been willing to stop the
money trained. Okay, it's real simple. The longer you keep
taking their money and refuse to stop and cut off
the money train is when you have no level and
you have no power.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
How did the how did the.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
NBA get Donald Sterling finally out of the NBA?
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Do you remember how they did it?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, they went to Adam Silver and they said, guess what,
We're not gonna play play We're gonna stop playing. We're
not gonna play any playoff games if he continued to
be an owner. And what happened he was stripped of
ownership and and and thrown out of the league overnight.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Okay, Baseball, what did they do? World Series one hundred years?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, that's nice we're not playing a world series.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
That's how you get leverage.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And my point is to Micah, don't go to camp,
don't answer any phone calls.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Let your agent talk to him and say he has
nothing else here for you.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
The only thing he wants is for trade and he
won't meet with you, he won't.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Come into camp.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
What you let him know that this is serious business
and the idea that's why ed warders reporting this is
this is phony.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
It's fake. It's a fraud.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
If I shook hands with Michael Parson's one of my
fingers might not come back. And if I put my
finger on his statement, I might have to wash it
because it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Stinks your fingers off of people.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I'm just saying there's a way of doing stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, but the way has changed and you may not
be privy to this information. I'm sure you are because
I've only becoming sports for forty years, so I know
you're up on what's going on with the new rules
and all of that. Prior to this year, if a
player held out and missed mandatory mini camp our training camp,
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and they cured fines fifty dollars a day, that fine
could be forgiven. When the player came back. It was
up to the team's discretion. No team ever wanted to
take that money from the players, whether it be contract
holdout or whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
You can't do that. So who cares listen to?
Speaker 9 (16:03):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
No, no, no, no, no, no no. Every player who thought
they were gonna hold out this year is at training
camp because of that. But that is no forgiveness of
fines anymore. That fine has to be paid. Have Bleacher
Report and the podcast pay it. Have somebody else, have
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a dealership pay it. That doesn't work. Yes, no, they
take it from them, But didn't they give me the
other money back? It has to It doesn't work. What
you I'm talking about your make up for you go, No,
they're gonna take the two million dollars from me.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Bleacher Report will give me two million dollars. Who says that?
What that would be the deal splating?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I would I would go, I'm gonna go to the dealership,
but I'll sit there and sign autograss all day. I'll
sign whatever you want to make up the lost money
ain't from.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It, doesn't you. No one is doing that anymore. I
can promise you. No what I'm telling you, go out
at home. It's done. It not because that bill must
be paid.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
No, but that, but.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
If you really are serious about moving on and making somebody.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He's under contract.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
No, no, no, you can still hold out.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I get why. What it means he's under contract? So
what after this year, he's free to go do whatever
he wants to do.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Seku and Barkley and those guys did it, dere Reeves
did it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
You're talking about it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, So what I'm telling you is the rule was different,
then it's not the same. No, But my point is, look,
that makes a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, No, no, No, it shouldn't make a difference because
it secure two million dollars. That's fine, that's fine. I
can make that off. I can make that up because
I don't want to be here anymore. And when you
don't want to be here anymore, that's when you go
and you get the moving van.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
That's when you get the moving van. And you don't
threaten people.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
My point is, by going to camp, that's no threat.
By practicing, there's no threat.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
He didn't say I don't want to play for you
this year. What he said was I would like to
be traded. He said, thank you, Dallas, I'm done here.
He's under contract. No, that's fine. But if I under contract,
if I don't come up, that sends a serious message
to Jerry Jones that I'm not I'm not playing around,
I'm not liking negotiations. They're not negotiating the contract from you.
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He's at training camp. It's going to be what it's
going to be, which is nothing, which.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Is phony in fake. That's my points.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Phon will he be? Will he be a Dallas Cowboy
next year? It made like like the like the idea.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
This is why the pro football players have the worst
freaking union in the history of man coind you keep
saying that you know, yeah, because why would they give
that up and negotiations that you have no recourse from that?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Does that make sense to you? Do you have no
recourse you had a deal, at least you would get
your money back. So they given to the owners.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
They have all these rules that are all pro owner
and all against the players. Hey, guess what. You can
have a contract. You could have a greater year than
you we're supposed to have. You can't get any more
money or negotiate anything. But if you have a worst year,
they can go back and say you guess what em
If you want to stay here even though you sign
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this deal, you got to take a cut in order
to keep your deal.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
If not, we're gonna let you go.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
What who signs a deal like that?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
It's one sided.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It is one sided. It's always been one sided. The
NFL is the only pro league that don't have fully
guaranteed contract ridiculous, And of the leagues that should have it,
it should be NFL.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
And I've always said.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, it depends on what side of the defense you're on.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They should have even if it's a three year, fully
guaranteed contract. Okay, at minimum three three years.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
So you say a five year deal, three years are
fully gain No, no, what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Now, three years fully guaranteed?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Okay, after three years you're a bus, no problem, your
team moves on.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Whatever you do.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, all contracts should be three years.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
For NFL because of the injury kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
That all no one signs. Uh, it's bigger than three years.
It should be a minimum of three. So that's what.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
But guarantee fully fully everything's fully least three years fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
BECA it's a five year deal, it's fully guaranteed. It
don't never happen. You almost had me, almost had me
with never.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Happened because the Union's week, it'll happen in two minutes
from It's not nobody's doing that from all they have
to do.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's not a players league. It's an owner's league. It's
not the NBA. I know, it's not the NBA. It's
not MLB.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
It's an owner's league. It's not a place. It's never
been a place. It's because of the mentality. Remember when
the football players and the quarterback club, remember the two
uh battling bodies, right, all the quarterbacks wouldn't signed over here.
Everybody else wouldn't sign over here. With with the Union,
it's always been like.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But Trey Henderson, just with Cincinnati, he comes back and
says he was being selfish because they didn't want to
pay him, like the players have been brainwashed. Not that
he should go out and get what he deserves. He's
played well, yeah, he deserves to be.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
One of the two or three highest paid players at
his position. You know, Instead they come back, no, no, no,
but I'm saying he comes back with his tail between
his legs, as if he did something wrong, instead of
saying I deserve this.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh, I don't want to be a distraction. Oh you
know it's not. No, you should get your money because
they don't have a problem with you.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
If you were negotiating for this show, would you come
in here and are not come?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Would you not come here?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
What?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yes? Robert, if Parker, if I.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Was serious about you, If I was serious you.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
The radio man, you this is the number one radio
show on Fox the Continent. Pro you mean to tell
me you personally, individually, if you were in the goociating
with the higher ups, right, you wouldn't show up for work?
Yes or no?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
If I but if I went out and said I
don't want to be here anymore, right Like, that's what Mike,
that's a difference.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
That's what he said, I want out.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
If I said I wanted out here, yes, I wouldn't
show up again, and I would say you need to
get me. We need to break this deal. I'm not
gonna do another radio show here, and I'm moving on.
I refuse to work here under these conditions. And then
they'd have to say condition they can't make me, they
can't make you work here. What they could do is
say we're gonna VOI we're gonna avoid your contract and
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get out and you or you'll take me to court
and say you can't go work at any ESPN or
some other place for the for the balance of your
contract something of that, like a non compete, and then
I have to sit out for a year and a
half or whatever. If I didn't want to be here.
Absolutely you would.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I would.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
No. This is part of who you are. You are
a radio man, not have been for sixty years, not.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
That long, thirty years?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Okay, this is what you do. You've been through negotiations,
haven't you haven't you haven't you been through negotiations?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Heyphrom Yes or no? You were you on the union?
Were you went to PA Where you want one of
those reps?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I was never a rep. Okay, I was never.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Because you sound like it, because the way that they
got bent over so many times.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I'm just going on, what is it? Freaky Friday?
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Speaker 3 (23:39):
But now let's welcome in our guest Nwie Scruggs. He
is a homie friend of the show, the Emmy Award
winning sports anchor down at NBC Dallas for words, who
was in Oxnard covering the Dallas Cowboys and Nui say
hello to e from salam Hey.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Good to talk to you again. Man, man it excellent, excellent, excellent.
You mentored everybody, don't you boy on it?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Who me?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
He from Ben from been in the game thirty five
years now, you've been.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
In the game, but none of us in the game
before rap.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
That's true. He was doing the Uh the Morris Cole.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Rob Rob Yoda used to hang together.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
It was a black and white radio. This is before TV.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
For I didn't tell you my.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
College is going to name the press box after you.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Really she used to sleep in there. Yeah. October fourth,
Southern Connecticut State University. What Connecticut State University. Yes, that's
a real college. Yes it's accredited.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
All right.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Way, let's get to the news of today. Uh, turn
off your Micah Parsons. That's what I call this podcast.
He has requested a trade.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
What is going on here?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Jerry always does this tis forever. He usually rolls over
and wands up paying people. What what's the disconnect here, sure.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Disconnect, Michael just getting patient, that's all, just getting impatient.
Here's here's a great thing. So Miles Garrett of the
Cleveland Bounds. So Miles is from Arlington, Texy, so right there,
dallast word there. On February third, Oh, I want out.
I'm done through, okay, Kobe Bryant told the Lakers trade me.
This is nothing.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Kobe wanted to be traded.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He went everywhere and everywhere to try to get that done,
and they didn't do it.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
They said no, right, Jerry's aught, He said, Mike's under
contracted ship at twenty four million dollars. So Michael could
say I'm mad, I'm done. I'm visited too, I'm through okay.
Jerry hasn't responded. Jerry's never let a superstar player go
first training camp I ever did in nineteen ninety three
with it Austin, Texas, saying that was university. The Cowboys
had just won Super Bowl twenty seven out of Jimmy
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johnson IMMA six contract was up, and Jerry was trying
to get in the take less right than Barry Sanders himm.
It was like no I led to lead rushing led
US to a Super Bowl. Jerry didn't pay him. He
drafted Derek Lastix thinking that was going to work. They
lost the first two games of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I remember that very vividly, and Jerry couldn't wait to
pay him.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Then Jerry paid. And I've said this all day long,
said on my TV show, give everybody this real clue.
I know how this ends, the way it always ends.
There's a picture, there's a player with a smile in
his hand, a piece of paper and a pin the
times and they get paid a lot of money. They
get paid a lot of money, and they're all good
with Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But it hasn't worked out for Jerry because they have
been to an NFC Championship game since Moby Dick was
a guppy. What if he did changes his determinate, it
changes his way and tell Micah to hit the road,
make a deal and fill up some other holes and
and do something different. For a chance, you're gonna have
three players making a gazillion dollars on that team and
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nothing else.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
How is that going to help the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (26:54):
So he's got the most valuable franchise in the world.
I don't care what nobody makes, but see, Rob, that's
what you okay, man, I always tell people, and I've
done this long enough with this man. That's how you
see it. I look in terms now how he sees it.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
You don't think he wants to win. I'm asking you
just saying he doesn't care about winning? Is that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Because why would you sign Dak Prescott to sixty million
if you don't care about winning?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
And you sell tickets?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
People are gonna go to the Cowboy games, no matter
who's the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
People gonna buy the merchandise. Come on Newied no matter what,
no matter what.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
People wanting to win his way?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Okay, but people people buy New York.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
They've been going to Knicks games and selling out all
that they haven't once in nineteen seventy three, and people
still show up at Madison Square Garden and sell out.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Okay. And Jerry wants to win his way. He's going
to do it his way, and you know what, his
way makes a lot of money. He changes. I used
to do Jerry's radio show, Rob. I've asked these questions, man,
I have I don't you know how you get the
point time about? Hey man, I'm that dog lays in
the yard now to let the mailman go, but I
am get up the market. Jerry. Okay, this is what
you do, man, this is what you do. You want
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to play this game at the end of the day
a piece of paper. Side players get all the money.
They either tie or set a new record for whatever position,
be it running back for Ezekiel Elliott, quarterback player for
Dak Prescott, CD Lambs high, and the wide receiver record
Amari Cooper tied the wide receiver. It all ends the same.
Why he does this, I don't know. I think he
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kind of likes the circus, but this is what it is,
and I'm just not going to be all upset about it.
I'm just laughing because I'm like, guys, this is the league.
This is what he does. He gonna pay him, Don't
know why, don't know. When the problem is, you're you're
probably not gonna have your linebacker in shape the way
he needs to be, but that's on him.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So do you think this deal will get done prior
to the season or.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
It'll carry you remember that it was the weekend before,
day before, day before, So do you think it'll be
one of those situations or do you think this a
carry over into the season.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
I haven't seen them carry anything over in the season
basically since him. If these things usually get signed before
and if you're the player, you don't want to miss
games because you want to make sure you get get
your stats and all that kind of stuff done and
get you know, you're all Pro Pro Bowl nods and
you don't want to get out here missing games. So
I anticipated will get done. Stephen Jones has always said
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deadlines make deals, and that's when they like to do
their best work. A lot of their work they like
to do it before training camp or right before game.
This is what they do, man. But it'll get done
because it always gets done.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And like you said, you know they michauld can't afford
to be missing games and all that. If it doesn't
get done. He's still up and playing game one of
the regular season. Correct, He's just gonna play out. I
suppose this last year of that contract, whether the deal
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gets done or not. Correct.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
Yes, yes, But I just you can't tell me that
when they kick off on NBC on Thursday night that
first week of September, that Michael Parsons is not on
the field for the Dallas Cowboys. I just I don't
believe it. I've just done this for too long and
watched watch Jerry do it, and Ceey Lamb had a
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really good quote basically saying, hey man, I've been in
the blender. It's so fun to be in the blender.
It's just hits time to be there. Good luck to
you man, and I hope.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You get well.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
But given given Jerry's history, so why wouldn't his agent
tell him you don't need to do all that. You
don't need to go on social media like give if
I'm a good agent, I'm gonna say, this is how
Jerry operates. And he rolled over for Dak, he rolled
over for Emmed, he rolled over for CD Lamb, and
he's going to roll over. You don't need to do
all that. Why is he making a public public spectacle?
(30:54):
And oh thanks Dallas and I don't want to be
here anymore. When if this is Jerry's m O, why
did I don't understand what kind of agent do you have?
Speaker 9 (31:03):
It's not about the agent because they've been hve the letter.
It's fantastic at what he does.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Know what I'm saying, Why is it's client out there
doing this? If Jerry's gonna roll over like you said,
let me finish Rob.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Because Mike is an emotional person. Okay, Michael, one time
he was so mad at us in the meeting. I'm
not talking to you, guys. I'm not talking to you guys.
I think laughter about a week, you know what. He
couldn't help himself, had to come back and talk. He's
an emotional guy. Okay, and it happened. Look at you
once again. Go back to my auth again. I've done Cleveland.
I've done. I've been eight years or not. Way that
I've done him out like come through Boom Gazon re
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what Carmelone was done with the Jazz, I'm done with
Dale and Larry. I'm done. He was right back there, man.
These are emotional people. Feelings and pride are in the way.
He's out here doing a podcast the Undertaker, Like why
that's ag I don't know. I don't know, I dont everything.
Why and the dude in this bag of feelings right now?
And Jerry is not That's why he didn't Master Negotiator
and a deal of get Joe. And we're sitting here
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talking about this stitch. You guys are falling from Banana
and the Tailpip I'm telling you how all right.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Well, that's why we called you because you wanted to
get the skinny.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
You're you're living it for the last thirty years down
there in Dallas. But but you did bring up Jerry's
the radio show you you did with with Jerry, right
and and I do I have a clip of uh
I called into the show and Jerry actually responded to me.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Did you know that we got the clip except.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
For one thing.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
You forgot to turn down the radio.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
He did it.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
You trying to write.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Perfectly perfectly, said RG three says, Hi, thank you for that.
It's called entertainment dollar newie. You remember you uhould do
radio a long time ago.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
He's laid it up there for you later there for
you turned down the radio exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Thank you, Jerry. I'll turn it down next time, all right,
Appreciate you. Thanks for doing scrugs all right, no doubt
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
And I'm not saying that I told you so, but
I told you so. And I feel even stronger today
than I did the other day when I said that
the Dallas Cowboys should trade. Turn off your Micah Parsons. Okay,
Rob G what's the news of today?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Yeah? So Rob's been beating this drum for months now.
Speaker 5 (00:45):
In Find We did this topic earlier this week, where
Rob was a he man, I think it's time for
Jarrah to trade Micah Parsons.
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Apparently Micah listens to the show.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Well, he wants to hear a quality program, not that
awful pot cast that he does, so he put out
a lengthy statement on Friday that reads, in part, talking
about his time in Dallas.
Speaker 5 (01:08):
Quote, Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here in Dallas.
I no longer want to be held to close door
negotiations without my agent present. I no longer want shots
taken at me for getting injured while laying on the
line for the organization, our fans, and my teammates.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
I no longer want.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Narratives created and spread to the media about me. I
had purposely stayed quiet and hopes with getting something done.
Speaker 3 (01:34):
But no, don't let the door hit you on the
way out. That's why I feel like, and you know what,
I get it for me. He's a great player. We
know that great players move on. Great players have been traded.
Sometimes you need to move forward. And one thing that
Jerry has done his entire career, he is.
Speaker 6 (01:54):
The cave king.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
He's caved all the time when it comes to these players,
you know, wait around, wait around, and then he oh, yeah,
you know, not doing that whatever, and any caves and
gives Dak Prescott sixty million dollars like he always CA's Jerry,
none of this has ever worked for you, And they
got news for you.
Speaker 6 (02:13):
As great as Michael Parsons is.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
You cannot win the Super Bowl with Michael Parsons like
you have done the last few years. And you cannot
win the Super Bowl. You haven't done it with them,
so why can't you do it without them? Either way,
you're not winning.
Speaker 6 (02:28):
The super Bowl? What is the real difference.
Speaker 3 (02:31):
I'm serious, And you know what, you could get a
haul for him and plug up those holes.
Speaker 6 (02:36):
The cowboys have more holes than the golf course.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
And I would be more than willing if I'm Jerry
Jones to do something different. You want out, You'll regret this.
You don't want to play in Big d You don't
want to be a cowboy. All this stuff you got,
your podcast and these commercials all come from being with
the Dallas Cowboys. Take your butt to Tennessee or some
other place and go see if you get all all
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this stuff.
Speaker 6 (03:01):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
If I'm Jerry, I'm putting on my cowboy boots and
I'm kicking ass, and I'm telling Michael Parsons.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Get out. You don't want to be here, We don't
want you here. Good riddance a reever.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
Dirty, you didn't know I was about lingual digit Yeah,
he from. I'm dead serious enough already.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
I mean, I guess say it with your chest. I
just got her on my chest after that. You all right,
Look now, all of that ranting and raving. You've done.
That's great. Now the problem isn't Michael Parsons in this.
Michael Parsons has done nothing but excel at the position
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he was drafted.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
Is that right?
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Did you watch the playoff game against the Packers at home?
Did you watch that?
Speaker 4 (03:55):
So, Michael Parsons, what I do know? Did you watch
that game? What I do know is an individual player
is not the sum of a game. Do you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
But I don't.
Speaker 6 (04:06):
Yes, I do, And I love that. One game doesn't
make I didn't say one game, so go look at
the first I just get.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
What you do is just point out a game.
Speaker 6 (04:18):
All I'm saying is, but what.
Speaker 4 (04:19):
I'm telling you is in the league of in NFL, well,
what do we what do we? What do we know?
We need? You need a quarterback? Right, you need a
left tackle?
Speaker 6 (04:30):
You got a sixty million dollars, need.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
An edge rusher. Those are the three positions. Get a
different You have to have about a different one. He
doesn't have a podcast because they're not interested in stuff outside.
We're players with Cincinnati. Cincinnati and Trey are having about a.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
Guy who doesn't have a playofcast, who's all the way
in who doesn't go on his podcast and rip his
teammates and tell them that they're the reason that they
lost the playoff game and that he played well.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
So is that the don't like him is because of
the podcast or because of his play on the field.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
Both, all of it, all of it together.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
All I'm saying is you haven't won a super Bowl
with him, so you cannot win one without him.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
It's just a simple. As much as you want to
believe Ephraim.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
That he's gonna be the reason that they don't win,
I'm sorry, but Jerry has a thirty year head start
on Michael Parsons and it ain't gonna be about him
and the reason the Cowboys win or don't win.
Speaker 4 (05:28):
Michael Parsons has been nothing but excellent for them. Okay,
so case in point, In four years, Michael Parsons has
fifty two point five sacks.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
How many wins do that happen?
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Matt?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
Wait, wait he can't. You just went on a whole
rampage about how Jerry is bad at this thing called
gmming by paying people late and what you just want
a whole rent about how Jerry is is not up
to snuff when it comes to building out the roster
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and paying people when they should and he waits and
does all of that. You can't put the onus on
a player that the Dallas Cowboys have been irrelevant for
twenty plus years thirty That has nothing to do with
Michael Parsons. What it does have to do Michael Parsons is.
Speaker 3 (06:23):
Show me how Michael passes at thirteen sacks and numbers.
Speaker 4 (06:28):
But that's that's the metric, That's what it is.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
Sports has a short.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
No no no, no, no, no losses.
Speaker 6 (06:35):
When it matter. Robert wins and lost.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Robert Parker, Robert Eugene Parker, Robert, that's Rob Robert, Equanimious Parker,
Robert Lee and I would be like, oh, players, if
Michael Parsons hadn't had double digit sason each year, the
first thing you would be talking about are his stats.
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But because he has performed, he has shown up. Thirteen sacks,
thirteen and a half fourteen sacks, twelve sacks, fifty two
and a half sacks in four years is what you
draft someone in the first round to do. He's answered
that he did that, and he got to remember the
first year they had him playing linebacker, outside linebacker, inside,
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linebacker put him over there. They didn't they didn't know
what he was, and he still outperformed there ineptness. So
what I'm telling you as a player, if you look
at what he said, right, the negotiation style that did
that Jerry and Steven and the Dallas Cowboy use is
they tried to get him in a room and negotiate
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with him without his representation. They just he came in
there to talk about something else and they start talking
about numbers in contracts. Shut after he after he But
what I'm saying is after he left that that meeting,
his agent was informed to deal is all but done.
When you don't run your business like you supposed to
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run your business like other successful franchises are running their business,
then this is what you get.
Speaker 6 (08:10):
You're gonna give you some reporter you can give me.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
That's what you doing. You're a reporter.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
I want to give you some reporting.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
And this is according to a NFL media reporter, Jane Slater,
the Cowboys internally discussed the idea of trading Micah two
years ago before Jerry shot it down. Slater added that
Michael's te comments on his podcast rubb teammates the wrong way. Yes,
and that the team didn't always believe when he called
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himself the leader of the team. And one coach even
said quote, nearly every player was in my office telling
us we needed to do something about him. That's that's
from a coach, an anonymous coach there who says.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That there was you know what, guess when the Dallas
Cowboys could have got maximum value for Michael since take
a guess what do you think.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
He's that great?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
He's great. Listen to what I'm saying. In all of
your years of covering the league and being in those rooms,
the room where it happens.
Speaker 6 (09:13):
During the draft, you could do it pre draft.
Speaker 4 (09:16):
During the draft is when you could have got a
king's ransom for a player. It's like Michael Parker of
his caliber, you could still do it. Once again, what
I'm telling you is they've mismanaged it and they're not
maximizing the value of the trade. They're doing it all
over again.
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Speaker 6 (10:52):
So here we are with the.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Big news of the day, which is that Michael Parsons
has u said and told the Cowboys now that they
want he wants to be traded. Rob g He made
a demand right on social media. Yeah, he put out.
Speaker 5 (11:10):
The lengthy statement reads in part, Unfortunately, I no longer
want to be here in Dallas. I no longer want
to be held to closed door negotiation without my agent president.
I no longer want shot taken and me for getting
injured while laying it on the line for the organization,
our fans, and my teammates.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
What's interesting, though about this.
Speaker 5 (11:24):
Whole situation, because we know that there's been some bad
blood brewing now for a couple of weeks, it has
been well reported, well documented, is in the wake of
this trade demand. About an hour later, longtime Cowboys reporter
arguably the best one they have in decades, Edwarder.
Speaker 6 (11:41):
I don't know who's he working for now.
Speaker 4 (11:42):
I think he's independent at this Yeah, because he was
with ESPN.
Speaker 6 (11:45):
They let him go, he came back, and then they
let him go again.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
Put out it's really good.
Speaker 5 (11:49):
A very interesting tweet saying that the trade demand still stands,
but Micah Parsons has no intention of leaving training can
during this trade request as such, an act of result
in him incurrying fifty thousand dollars in daily fine.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
This is why I call Michael Parsons a fraud, a phony,
because if you're serious about it, no, no, no, he
from doing hi. Hold on, okay, If you're serious about it,
there's a way you go about it to let them
know that you're not playing games. And when you show
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up because you don't want to lose any money, they're like,
he ain't going nowhere. This is just a negotiation ploy
and all that stuff he from. When I was ready
to get divorced, I didn't make a threat. No, I
was on even mad at one time. I didn't make
a threat. I got a moving van.
Speaker 6 (12:52):
Do you see the difference. I'm not threatening you that
I'm gonna lead.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
Does she want the divorce? It? Did you?
Speaker 3 (12:57):
I wanted to divorce. I got the truck, Alex. Does
that make sense to you? If you're serious about it,
you gotta be about it. Michael Parsons, your man crush
home run just so you know, that's not the judge.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
That's that.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I already knew what you were talking about. That's that
you just said a three yearun bomb in Miami. Unbelievable.
Man crush. I don't have a man crush. What No,
I'm just saying that, if you're serious, you let people know.
The reason that your union has been terrible and you
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don't have the healthcare and the pension that you should
have is because they haven't been willing to stop the
money trained. Okay, it's real simple. The longer you keep
taking their money and refuse to stop and cut off
the money train is when you have no level and
you have no power.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
How did the how did the.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
NBA get Donald Sterling finally out of the NBA?
Speaker 6 (14:06):
Do you remember how they did it?
Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, they went to Adam Silver and they said, guess what,
We're not gonna play play We're gonna stop playing. We're
not gonna play any playoff games if he continued to
be an owner. And what happened he was stripped of
ownership and and and thrown out of the league overnight.
Speaker 6 (14:24):
Okay, Baseball, what did they do? World Series one hundred years?
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Okay, that's nice we're not playing a world series.
Speaker 6 (14:34):
That's how you get leverage.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
And my point is to Micah, don't go to camp,
don't answer any phone calls.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
Let your agent talk to him and say he has
nothing else here for you.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
The only thing he wants is for trade and he
won't meet with you, he won't.
Speaker 6 (14:52):
Come into camp.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
What you let him know that this is serious business
and the idea that's why ed warders reporting this is
this is phony.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
It's fake. It's a fraud.
Speaker 3 (15:04):
If I shook hands with Michael Parson's one of my
fingers might not come back. And if I put my
finger on his statement, I might have to wash it
because it.
Speaker 4 (15:15):
Stinks your fingers off of people.
Speaker 6 (15:17):
I'm just saying there's a way of doing stuff.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Yeah, but the way has changed and you may not
be privy to this information. I'm sure you are because
I've only becoming sports for forty years, so I know
you're up on what's going on with the new rules
and all of that. Prior to this year, if a
player held out and missed mandatory mini camp our training camp,
(15:42):
and they cured fines fifty dollars a day, that fine
could be forgiven. When the player came back. It was
up to the team's discretion. No team ever wanted to
take that money from the players, whether it be contract
holdout or whatever.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
You can't do that. So who cares listen to?
Speaker 9 (16:03):
No?
Speaker 4 (16:03):
No, no, no, no, no, no no. Every player who thought
they were gonna hold out this year is at training
camp because of that. But that is no forgiveness of
fines anymore. That fine has to be paid. Have Bleacher
Report and the podcast pay it. Have somebody else, have
(16:23):
a dealership pay it. That doesn't work. Yes, no, they
take it from them, But didn't they give me the
other money back? It has to It doesn't work. What
you I'm talking about your make up for you go, No,
they're gonna take the two million dollars from me.
Speaker 6 (16:37):
Bleacher Report will give me two million dollars. Who says that?
What that would be the deal splating?
Speaker 3 (16:45):
I would I would go, I'm gonna go to the dealership,
but I'll sit there and sign autograss all day. I'll
sign whatever you want to make up the lost money
ain't from.
Speaker 4 (16:53):
It, doesn't you. No one is doing that anymore. I
can promise you. No what I'm telling you, go out
at home. It's done. It not because that bill must
be paid.
Speaker 6 (17:04):
No, but that, but.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
If you really are serious about moving on and making somebody.
Speaker 4 (17:11):
He's under contract.
Speaker 6 (17:12):
No, no, no, you can still hold out.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
I get why. What it means he's under contract? So
what after this year, he's free to go do whatever
he wants to do.
Speaker 3 (17:22):
Seku and Barkley and those guys did it, dere Reeves
did it.
Speaker 6 (17:25):
You're talking about it.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, So what I'm telling you is the rule was different,
then it's not the same. No, But my point is, look,
that makes a huge difference.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, No, no, No, it shouldn't make a difference because
it secure two million dollars. That's fine, that's fine. I
can make that off. I can make that up because
I don't want to be here anymore. And when you
don't want to be here anymore, that's when you go
and you get the moving van.
Speaker 6 (17:53):
That's when you get the moving van. And you don't
threaten people.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
My point is, by going to camp, that's no threat.
By practicing, there's no threat.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
He didn't say I don't want to play for you
this year. What he said was I would like to
be traded. He said, thank you, Dallas, I'm done here.
He's under contract. No, that's fine. But if I under contract,
if I don't come up, that sends a serious message
to Jerry Jones that I'm not I'm not playing around,
I'm not liking negotiations. They're not negotiating the contract from you.
(18:28):
He's at training camp. It's going to be what it's
going to be, which is nothing, which.
Speaker 6 (18:33):
Is phony in fake. That's my points.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
Phon will he be? Will he be a Dallas Cowboy
next year? It made like like the like the idea.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
This is why the pro football players have the worst
freaking union in the history of man coind you keep
saying that you know, yeah, because why would they give
that up and negotiations that you have no recourse from that?
Speaker 4 (18:54):
Does that make sense to you? Do you have no
recourse you had a deal, at least you would get
your money back. So they given to the owners.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
They have all these rules that are all pro owner
and all against the players. Hey, guess what. You can
have a contract. You could have a greater year than
you we're supposed to have. You can't get any more
money or negotiate anything. But if you have a worst year,
they can go back and say you guess what em
If you want to stay here even though you sign
(19:22):
this deal, you got to take a cut in order
to keep your deal.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
If not, we're gonna let you go.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
What who signs a deal like that?
Speaker 6 (19:30):
It's one sided.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
It is one sided. It's always been one sided. The
NFL is the only pro league that don't have fully
guaranteed contract ridiculous, And of the leagues that should have it,
it should be NFL.
Speaker 6 (19:42):
And I've always said.
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Well, it depends on what side of the defense you're on.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They should have even if it's a three year, fully
guaranteed contract. Okay, at minimum three three years.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
So you say a five year deal, three years are
fully gain No, no, what you're saying.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Now, three years fully guaranteed?
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Okay, after three years you're a bus, no problem, your
team moves on.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Whatever you do.
Speaker 4 (20:04):
Well, all contracts should be three years.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
For NFL because of the injury kind of thing.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
That all no one signs. Uh, it's bigger than three years.
It should be a minimum of three. So that's what.
Speaker 3 (20:15):
But guarantee fully fully everything's fully least three years fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (20:20):
BECA it's a five year deal, it's fully guaranteed. It
don't never happen. You almost had me, almost had me
with never.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
Happened because the Union's week, it'll happen in two minutes
from It's not nobody's doing that from all they have
to do.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
It's not a players league. It's an owner's league. It's
not the NBA. I know, it's not the NBA. It's
not MLB.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
I know.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
It's an owner's league. It's not a place. It's never
been a place. It's because of the mentality. Remember when
the football players and the quarterback club, remember the two
uh battling bodies, right, all the quarterbacks wouldn't signed over here.
Everybody else wouldn't sign over here. With with the Union,
it's always been like.
Speaker 3 (20:57):
But Trey Henderson, just with Cincinnati, he comes back and
says he was being selfish because they didn't want to
pay him, like the players have been brainwashed. Not that
he should go out and get what he deserves. He's
played well, yeah, he deserves to be.
Speaker 4 (21:13):
One of the two or three highest paid players at
his position. You know, Instead they come back, no, no, no,
but I'm saying he comes back with his tail between
his legs, as if he did something wrong, instead of
saying I deserve this.
Speaker 3 (21:24):
Oh, I don't want to be a distraction. Oh you
know it's not. No, you should get your money because
they don't have a problem with you.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
If you were negotiating for this show, would you come
in here and are not come?
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Would you not come here?
Speaker 5 (21:42):
What?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yes? Robert, if Parker, if I.
Speaker 6 (21:46):
Was serious about you, If I was serious you.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
The radio man, you this is the number one radio
show on Fox the Continent. Pro you mean to tell
me you personally, individually, if you were in the goociating
with the higher ups, right, you wouldn't show up for work?
Yes or no?
Speaker 6 (22:05):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:05):
No?
Speaker 3 (22:05):
If I but if I went out and said I
don't want to be here anymore, right Like, that's what Mike,
that's a difference.
Speaker 6 (22:12):
That's what he said, I want out.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
If I said I wanted out here, yes, I wouldn't
show up again, and I would say you need to
get me. We need to break this deal. I'm not
gonna do another radio show here, and I'm moving on.
I refuse to work here under these conditions. And then
they'd have to say condition they can't make me, they
can't make you work here. What they could do is
say we're gonna VOI we're gonna avoid your contract and
(22:36):
get out and you or you'll take me to court
and say you can't go work at any ESPN or
some other place for the for the balance of your
contract something of that, like a non compete, and then
I have to sit out for a year and a
half or whatever. If I didn't want to be here.
Absolutely you would.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
You wouldn't.
Speaker 6 (22:52):
I would.
Speaker 4 (22:53):
No. This is part of who you are. You are
a radio man, not have been for sixty years, not.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
That long, thirty years?
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Okay, this is what you do. You've been through negotiations,
haven't you haven't you haven't you been through negotiations?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Heyphrom Yes or no? You were you on the union?
Were you went to PA Where you want one of
those reps?
Speaker 4 (23:15):
I was never a rep. Okay, I was never.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Because you sound like it, because the way that they
got bent over so many times.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
I'm just going on, what is it? Freaky Friday?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
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Speaker 3 (23:39):
But now let's welcome in our guest Nwie Scruggs. He
is a homie friend of the show, the Emmy Award
winning sports anchor down at NBC Dallas for words, who
was in Oxnard covering the Dallas Cowboys and Nui say
hello to e from salam Hey.
Speaker 9 (23:57):
Good to talk to you again. Man, man it excellent, excellent, excellent.
You mentored everybody, don't you boy on it?
Speaker 5 (24:05):
Man?
Speaker 4 (24:06):
Who me?
Speaker 6 (24:07):
He from Ben from been in the game thirty five
years now, you've been.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
In the game, but none of us in the game
before rap.
Speaker 4 (24:13):
That's true. He was doing the Uh the Morris Cole.
Speaker 9 (24:18):
Rob Rob Yoda used to hang together.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
It was a black and white radio. This is before TV.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
For I didn't tell you my.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
College is going to name the press box after you.
Speaker 4 (24:32):
Really she used to sleep in there. Yeah. October fourth,
Southern Connecticut State University. What Connecticut State University. Yes, that's
a real college. Yes it's accredited.
Speaker 6 (24:46):
All right.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Way, let's get to the news of today. Uh, turn
off your Micah Parsons. That's what I call this podcast.
He has requested a trade.
Speaker 6 (24:56):
What is going on here?
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Jerry always does this tis forever. He usually rolls over
and wands up paying people. What what's the disconnect here, sure.
Speaker 9 (25:07):
Disconnect, Michael just getting patient, that's all, just getting impatient.
Here's here's a great thing. So Miles Garrett of the
Cleveland Bounds. So Miles is from Arlington, Texy, so right there,
dallast word there. On February third, Oh, I want out.
I'm done through, okay, Kobe Bryant told the Lakers trade me.
This is nothing.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Kobe wanted to be traded.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He went everywhere and everywhere to try to get that done,
and they didn't do it.
Speaker 9 (25:32):
They said no, right, Jerry's aught, He said, Mike's under
contracted ship at twenty four million dollars. So Michael could
say I'm mad, I'm done. I'm visited too, I'm through okay.
Jerry hasn't responded. Jerry's never let a superstar player go
first training camp I ever did in nineteen ninety three
with it Austin, Texas, saying that was university. The Cowboys
had just won Super Bowl twenty seven out of Jimmy
(25:52):
johnson IMMA six contract was up, and Jerry was trying
to get in the take less right than Barry Sanders himm.
It was like no I led to lead rushing led
US to a Super Bowl. Jerry didn't pay him. He
drafted Derek Lastix thinking that was going to work. They
lost the first two games of the year.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
I remember that very vividly, and Jerry couldn't wait to
pay him.
Speaker 9 (26:11):
Then Jerry paid. And I've said this all day long,
said on my TV show, give everybody this real clue.
I know how this ends, the way it always ends.
There's a picture, there's a player with a smile in
his hand, a piece of paper and a pin the
times and they get paid a lot of money. They
get paid a lot of money, and they're all good
with Jerry Jones.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
But it hasn't worked out for Jerry because they have
been to an NFC Championship game since Moby Dick was
a guppy. What if he did changes his determinate, it
changes his way and tell Micah to hit the road,
make a deal and fill up some other holes and
and do something different. For a chance, you're gonna have
three players making a gazillion dollars on that team and
(26:50):
nothing else.
Speaker 6 (26:51):
How is that going to help the Cowboys?
Speaker 9 (26:54):
So he's got the most valuable franchise in the world.
I don't care what nobody makes, but see, Rob, that's
what you okay, man, I always tell people, and I've
done this long enough with this man. That's how you
see it. I look in terms now how he sees it.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
You don't think he wants to win. I'm asking you
just saying he doesn't care about winning? Is that?
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Because why would you sign Dak Prescott to sixty million
if you don't care about winning?
Speaker 6 (27:19):
And you sell tickets?
Speaker 3 (27:21):
People are gonna go to the Cowboy games, no matter
who's the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (27:24):
People gonna buy the merchandise. Come on Newied no matter what,
no matter what.
Speaker 9 (27:29):
People wanting to win his way?
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Okay, but people people buy New York.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
They've been going to Knicks games and selling out all
that they haven't once in nineteen seventy three, and people
still show up at Madison Square Garden and sell out.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
Okay. And Jerry wants to win his way. He's going
to do it his way, and you know what, his
way makes a lot of money. He changes. I used
to do Jerry's radio show, Rob. I've asked these questions, man,
I have I don't you know how you get the
point time about? Hey man, I'm that dog lays in
the yard now to let the mailman go, but I
am get up the market. Jerry. Okay, this is what
you do, man, this is what you do. You want
(28:06):
to play this game at the end of the day
a piece of paper. Side players get all the money.
They either tie or set a new record for whatever position,
be it running back for Ezekiel Elliott, quarterback player for
Dak Prescott, CD Lambs high, and the wide receiver record
Amari Cooper tied the wide receiver. It all ends the same.
Why he does this, I don't know. I think he
(28:27):
kind of likes the circus, but this is what it is,
and I'm just not going to be all upset about it.
I'm just laughing because I'm like, guys, this is the league.
This is what he does. He gonna pay him, Don't
know why, don't know. When the problem is, you're you're
probably not gonna have your linebacker in shape the way
he needs to be, but that's on him.
Speaker 4 (28:46):
So do you think this deal will get done prior
to the season or.
Speaker 10 (28:49):
It'll carry you remember that it was the weekend before,
day before, day before, So do you think it'll be
one of those situations or do you think this a
carry over into the season.
Speaker 9 (29:03):
I haven't seen them carry anything over in the season
basically since him. If these things usually get signed before
and if you're the player, you don't want to miss
games because you want to make sure you get get
your stats and all that kind of stuff done and
get you know, you're all Pro Pro Bowl nods and
you don't want to get out here missing games. So
I anticipated will get done. Stephen Jones has always said
(29:24):
deadlines make deals, and that's when they like to do
their best work. A lot of their work they like
to do it before training camp or right before game.
This is what they do, man. But it'll get done
because it always gets done.
Speaker 4 (29:35):
And like you said, you know they michauld can't afford
to be missing games and all that. If it doesn't
get done. He's still up and playing game one of
the regular season. Correct, He's just gonna play out. I
suppose this last year of that contract, whether the deal
(29:56):
gets done or not. Correct.
Speaker 9 (29:59):
Yes, yes, But I just you can't tell me that
when they kick off on NBC on Thursday night that
first week of September, that Michael Parsons is not on
the field for the Dallas Cowboys. I just I don't
believe it. I've just done this for too long and
watched watch Jerry do it, and Ceey Lamb had a
(30:21):
really good quote basically saying, hey man, I've been in
the blender. It's so fun to be in the blender.
It's just hits time to be there. Good luck to
you man, and I hope.
Speaker 4 (30:29):
You get well.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
But given given Jerry's history, so why wouldn't his agent
tell him you don't need to do all that. You
don't need to go on social media like give if
I'm a good agent, I'm gonna say, this is how
Jerry operates. And he rolled over for Dak, he rolled
over for Emmed, he rolled over for CD Lamb, and
he's going to roll over. You don't need to do
all that. Why is he making a public public spectacle?
(30:54):
And oh thanks Dallas and I don't want to be
here anymore. When if this is Jerry's m O, why
did I don't understand what kind of agent do you have?
Speaker 9 (31:03):
It's not about the agent because they've been hve the letter.
It's fantastic at what he does.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Know what I'm saying, Why is it's client out there
doing this? If Jerry's gonna roll over like you said,
let me finish Rob.
Speaker 9 (31:12):
Because Mike is an emotional person. Okay, Michael, one time
he was so mad at us in the meeting. I'm
not talking to you, guys. I'm not talking to you guys.
I think laughter about a week, you know what. He
couldn't help himself, had to come back and talk. He's
an emotional guy. Okay, and it happened. Look at you
once again. Go back to my auth again. I've done Cleveland.
I've done. I've been eight years or not. Way that
I've done him out like come through Boom Gazon re
(31:34):
what Carmelone was done with the Jazz, I'm done with
Dale and Larry. I'm done. He was right back there, man.
These are emotional people. Feelings and pride are in the way.
He's out here doing a podcast the Undertaker, Like why
that's ag I don't know. I don't know, I dont everything.
Why and the dude in this bag of feelings right now?
And Jerry is not That's why he didn't Master Negotiator
and a deal of get Joe. And we're sitting here
(31:56):
talking about this stitch. You guys are falling from Banana
and the Tailpip I'm telling you how all right.
Speaker 6 (32:01):
Well, that's why we called you because you wanted to
get the skinny.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
You're you're living it for the last thirty years down
there in Dallas. But but you did bring up Jerry's
the radio show you you did with with Jerry, right
and and I do I have a clip of uh
I called into the show and Jerry actually responded to me.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Did you know that we got the clip except.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
For one thing.
Speaker 9 (32:25):
You forgot to turn down the radio.
Speaker 6 (32:28):
Thank you, Jerry.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
He did it.
Speaker 9 (32:33):
You trying to write.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
Perfectly perfectly, said RG three says, Hi, thank you for that.
It's called entertainment dollar newie. You remember you uhould do
radio a long time ago.
Speaker 9 (32:56):
He's laid it up there for you later there for
you turned down the radio exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:01):
Thank you, Jerry. I'll turn it down next time, all right,
Appreciate you. Thanks for doing scrugs all right, no doubt
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