August 15, 2025 • 51 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if the punishment handed down on Michigan for their sign stealing scandal was too light and if it all was ultimately worth it for the Wolverines, and explain why they'd never hire disgraced former-NFL head coach Jon Gruden to run a college football program. Plus, Big Ten College Countdown host Joshua Perry swings by to discuss the Michigan punishment, how much blame the former Wolverines players deserve for the scandal, who he’s picking to win the Big Ten this season, and much more!
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You know me.
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You do get around, well both ways.
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We get around.
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And we're talking about uh, right next to you.
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Want to say what you in New York City? Maybe overrated?
Slight to the world, stop in the shop. With all that,
you get them on field board, get that voice. I'm
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just chilling now.
Speaker 7 (03:44):
Yes, in New York, you know, and with that with
that shirt on me, you're looking round Floridian then. But
New Yorkers retired in Florida anyway. So I gotta admit.
I gotta admit that song. I think every city region
has their song and that represents their city.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Here that's top three, like that is just amazing.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
But I'm gonna tell you how good that song is. Okay,
real quick. It's so good that it replaced Frank Sinatra
at Yankee Stadium during the two thousand and nine championship.
Speaker 3 (04:20):
Nobody seriously, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Like, why wow, Sinatra's New York, New York with that
in two thousand and nine. They did it. I couldn't
believe it.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Yeah, I gotta write that down. I'm write that down.
That's gonna be one of our ones. Gotta go maybe
when you're back, like I know, I'll do two months
from Anthem. I know, listen, the street. I'm telling you,
the Street's gonna start wondering like, man, the Kelvin punch Rob, Like,
what's going on? Why don't we know that's not what's
going on. He finally put him in a headlock, like
(04:51):
he said, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Man? Get your back?
Speaker 3 (04:55):
And this is my last point before we get this show.
Speaker 7 (04:58):
Alex, Rob g and every somebody else has to stop
lying Patrick, stop lying to me about Rob never takes
days off.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
I will give you that. You have a season when
you lock it down, But did you.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Make up for it or what one with the starting
of the new show with you which is almost a
year now?
Speaker 3 (05:15):
I know, right, that's great.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
I went ten straight months without taking time off because
I wanted us to have a nice run to re
establish the show with a new co host, and I said,
I'm not going to take off, and I did that.
And now I'm piled up with these days and I
have to take them off before we get started in
the fall.
Speaker 7 (05:34):
And now that is true. I'll give you this. You
know I wasn't because I knew. You know, I'm new
here on the TV end, haven't been there for years.
About the same you've been with the AKA at Fox
Sports Radio. You get all those a crude days. At
a certain point they're like, hey, man, you ain't a
crew no more. You got to take some of these
days off. You got to take them or you lose them.
So that's where we are. But all good. Yes, So
let's welcome in the odd couple crew. We wouldn't be
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able to do this fine radio program with down the
rob g Of course, our producer Alex is our engineer,
our sub producer.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
Is that correct?
Speaker 1 (06:05):
What that's called? Patrick? Patrick? What up? Bits you boy?
That's what? Did he just give us his own drop?
Maybe that was me, but I'll use it now.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I don't know who Patrick?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Nice Patrick?
Speaker 3 (06:20):
So I don't know who.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
Steve at the anchor desk, Alex Steves and uh a
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And yes, so on my vacation starting tomorrow. Where's my
first stop tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Where, I don't know where?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Where you're in Nity Field, the Mariners against the Mets. Okay,
that's my vacation. I'm pathetic.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, it sounds more like work to me. Sounds like
you cut to something.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm going to hang out with my buddies who I
never get to really hang out with. So we're gonna
go to the game and chill out as at four o'clock.
Then I got a little dinner date after that at eight.
I mean I got a full schedule dinner date date
or like dinner date, like dinner date, like a little
all right, we got to show to do kids. Hey,
let's go here and uh, you know you grew up
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in ann Arbor, Yes, sir, right there with Michigan and
uh uh the hammer came down. You got the details
on details and it's mostly money and fines and stuff.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
But go ahead, there's where I think we're gonna have
a quick the kind of the start of the conversation,
Rob will be because hammer becomes relative. Is it a hammer?
Is it a sledgehammer? Depended on the school to me,
that's how I look at it. But let's break it down.
So we already know what happened when they started to
rule down some of the things that happened. And last
year this goes back to the twenty twenty three when
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the whole videotaping suspensions and scandals.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So the nc.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
DOUBLEA Division one Committee on in Fractions rule that Michigan's
advanced scouting case.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We know what that was.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Weren't you in the documentary. I wasn't a documentary. I
was on a plane and a guy was watching it
at the very point where I'm sitting next to him,
and I come on the screen that is hilarious. And
he looked over at me, look back at the screen,
looks at me again, look back. I said, Yeah, that
was me.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
That is freaking hilarious. That is that was weird. It
was that was I just threw a tomato at my
TV when you popped up. I was like him again.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
The NCUBA also imposed an additional games for Sharon Moore, who
is obviously now the head coach was the offensive coordinator.
Then when the investigation was going on, he's gonna be serving.
So he's gonna miss the first game of the twenty
twenty six season. Don't forget, he's already gonna be missing
a couple games coming up this season as well, part
of the first original ruling that happened. And then also
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have a you have a two year show cause penalty
for him, and then you have a ten year show
cause for Jim Harbaugh, which is already on top of
the four years that he got. And the big other
thing is the thirty million dollars as well that the
schools be facing.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And fine, so that's the gist of it right there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Can I tell you this once again, the NCAA proves
how ineffective it is and they let Michigan off the hook.
Because it can't be just financial. They should be banned
from participating in the college football playoffs. They should they
out and out cheated like the Astros like basically to
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get an upper hand. And for all you miss Chigan
cry babies and all that who try to act like, oh,
you don't really matter, because one day shop did they
still won?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
For a game you won the championship.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You wouldn't be cheating if it didn't affect you in
a positive way. Kelvin, you know what I mean. You
would never do it, so it does give you an advantage.
And the NCAA should have thrown the book at Michigan
and then they should have gone to Chargers camp and
put Jim Harbor on handcuffs and lead him out of camp.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Now that's what I would have wanted to see.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And stuff gonna burn his khakis. I'm just saying, like,
even if it's just for jes to let him know
that he's a criminal when it comes to college football
and that that championship you want is tainted and all
this idea that Jim Harball did it right.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's funny when things turned around.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You remember when he got the pay cut, uh and
the losing the Ohio State and all that right, and
Jim Harbaugh was was pissed that they cut a soury
You remember that. Yeah, there was no delions. Wouldn't even
take an interview with him, you remember that. I mean
it was wouldn't even interview him. That's how much he
had fallen because he kept losing that Michigan to Ohio State,
and then all of a sudden, when the cheating scandal started,
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they started to turn it around, started to beat Ohio
State and all this kind of stuff, and they win
a national championship and then he gets out of dodge.
But that is it. I think that they got off light.
I think the NCAA is ineffective and a joke, and
I don't even know why they even exists.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I think that they got off light because of who
they are. I think those fines and penalties will hurt
somebody else if it was a smaller school, right, thirty
million dollars, there's nothing to sneeze at except if you're
in Michigan. So to me, the NCAA wasted all of
our time doubling back, coming back with these penalties, because
what ultimately needed to have happened rob to really make
a difference. If you really were going to put your
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stamp on it, if you're gonna say it with your chest,
that would be to vacate the twenty twenty three now
the title.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They knew it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
They didn't do any of the postseason games. They didn't
do it.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
So if you're Michigan, to me, which I believe, and
you saw we talked about the documentary.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Other schools are absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Doing and Michigan got caught.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's absolutely worth And what I mean by it is if.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You're always about getting caught, right.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Right exactly, who's the one that got caught? Everybody's doing it.
That's why these kids are all going twenty five thirty
d and you know, smashing grabs in LA and all
over the country because they're figuring if thirty of us
do it, it's gonna be hard to catch any of
you know what I mean, because it's thirty of us,
so that it says opposed to me and you where
it's easy to catch one of us or two of us.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
My point is Michigan was caught cheating.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
They were doing this filming all these these practices and
games and whatnot, as were other schools. But they got caught,
and the NCAA essentially smacked them on the riskiain because
if you're Michigan, let me tell you what is not
nothing to you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Thirty million dollars, you got one hundred and.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Ten plus thousand people in your stadium seven eight times
a year, right, you're about to make that any ass?
You know what you're gonna make that on national championship
merchandise that you got. You already made that thirty million dollars. Baby,
that was easy to make because you went to the postseason,
you went to the championship.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Get go out, d ncach one should go and collect
all those championship T shirts and send the Cambodia right now,
and we say that that's the that's the penalty they got.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Let's take it.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
They got to go get the other ones from Cambodia,
the losing ones right there. You know, they already got
the who was it Georgia? Who was the Alabama? You're
a national champion?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Whoever it was, those are the ones that are there
they're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We got double T shirts.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
This is not I think it was Washington think it
was Washington State. But so let me let me break
down a couple more things. This is why it was Again,
we just talked about why it wasn't worth anything for NCUBA,
because if you're Michigan, it's worth it. Michigan was trying
to play big boy college football. They had been really
good under Jim Harbaugh, but they weren't that last top
tier upper echelon, right They weren't. When it comes to
the Clemsons, the Alabama, the Georgia's, Ohio States, they weren't.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That they finally got back to that.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
They finally for about a three or four year run,
beat Ohio State, which you know, you spent twenty years
in Michigan. That is the end all, be all, dang it,
if we can do nothing else, be Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And they did that. So all of that while John
Cooper got fired at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
He couldn't be Michigan. He couldn't be Michigan one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
So beating Ohio State's braids in for four years, winning
the National Championship, getting your program back to the top, top,
top tier was absolutely worth it. You went, you won
the Natty, you made that thirty million in eons plus.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So then you have that last point, Rob.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
I think the NC DOUBLEA didn't want to go overboard
vacating wins, titles and all of that because I think
they looked and learned from the lesson they did with
the Fab five when they when they took back those
two National Championship appearances, they lost in the games with
those appearances, those all of those games, all those records
with the Fab five and they took inter race the
whole Fab five, and there was a lot of backlash.
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I think you might have still been to Michigan when
that was happening, and so therefore.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think the NC DOUBLEA said, how.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Can we look like we did something or were tough,
but not ultimately cost Michigan, a blue blood in the
NC DOUBLEA and not have them, you know, and and
really feel in the penalties. That's what I think happened there.
So they really didn't do anything but waste all of
our time. If you really want to keep it real,
it's a total waste of tom.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I told you. NCAA is outdated, it's antiquated, it's weak.
It has no power, right power, It has no power,
like like like here's somebody blatantly cheating and you you're
not even tough enough to say, hey, we're gonna take
that championship.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
They've done it in college.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
They don't do it in the pros, but they do
it in college all the time. Vacate stuff, and it's
been done over and over our at eight seven, they
vacated that.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Uh cal Calipari with the Memphis when they got to
national championship go vacated.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
He's some of his wins.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
I just think the NCAA also, last point ten seconds.
I think they're scared because Big ten and the SEC
are a handful of days away from being like, you.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Know what, let's start our own thing.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, but a few of the other schools in the
in the Big ten, I don't know how you feel
good about letting Michigan cheat.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'm like, seriously, like me, were the fear of the NCAA,
not the other Big ten teams?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
No, but I'm saying, but I'm saying, if you're if
you're the NCAAA, if you want to make something, you
make Michigan pay a penalty.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well, you know, rob Ohio State was the one who's alleged.
You know that, So they don't they got caught. They
got caught, I know. I'm saying Ohio State was the
ones who might have ratted them out allegedly. So I
don't think all the Big ten teams are happy with it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
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go to light with the Michigan penalty and punishment or
was it worth it for the Wolverines to cheat like
they did? We'll continue that conversation next with you. It
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coming up. What do you have before we get to
the top. What do you have going this weekend with
the family? Anything?
Speaker 7 (18:33):
For three hundred subscribers. I just looked at our page. Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
We got we're moving on up, move and on up.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Yeah, and I think we have any uh any rivals.
By the way, just that out there when it comes
to that, I'm just saying. It's just saying, we're just
giving facts, no feelings.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Just facts, all facts with a cover sheet too. What
is the facts?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What is z big facts? No? No, no plans? This weekend?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Man, kind of back to it, you know, feeling feeling
good and get a haircut, you know, you know, obviously
we both were gone.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You're back gone again.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
So kind of take care of some errands and run
around things that I wouldn't haven't been able to do
throughout the week.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So looking forward to that.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
Man a little chill, you know, and Big Mike try
to maybe low key, don't tell nobody, maybe.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Swing some golf clubs this weekend. Wow, Okay, that'll be
fun out there and doing that. Yes, And I'm gonna
be going to do a little vaca and I'll be back.
And one thing I just wanted to mention briefly and
just so not this week, the far and week, I'm
gonna go to Hawaii by myself and just reset. And
I think I told you I'm going to unplugged, basically
(19:36):
plug my phone in the charge it no phone, no
social media or anything for three days and you can
do I want to read. Yes, I'm gonna read, listen
to music, get massages on the beach. Maybe they'll put
an apple in my mouth like I'm a pig and
I'll be eating like crazy. Alex, what do you think
(19:58):
am I gonna be able to do this? Reset? Because
you know, Alex is happy that I'm doing this because
he thinks.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I'm overdo it. It's true.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So do you think I'll be able to sing it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I think everything is kept to social media. I don't
buy that one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Why but if I'm off my phone, I'm not going
to go on social media.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
No, I don't think you're going to post, but I
think you're going to be a lurker, Alex.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know how people always say no.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
No, that's just Lebron.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's why I had no argument there.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yeah, he's an egotistical maniac.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He has to announce every time. Hey, yo, I'm about
to go zero dark thirty. You don't have to do it,
just just just do it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
At this point, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You never know.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
The best risk we've ever had on social media is
this one. It's that simple.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Just so you know, at midnight, I'm doing a social
media Clint. Okay, we got it, Lebron, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's just like it's just like the guys and you
guys know this, who really are are fighters, who are
real fighters. They don't announce that I'm gonna punch you
in the face, right they walk up to you and
punch you in the face. Dude, you ain't never I'm
gonna punch you in the face. You come ahead, keep
keeping I'm gonna put other guys who are serious and
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about it. They come up to you and they punch
you in the face.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Right, Calvert man, you ain't never I remember we were
kind of getting into it back in the younger days.
You know, these guys want a little smoke and a
friend that's just say disappears and we're like, where is
our friend at dode We see him, he's already walking
towards him. No words, gun on the side of him,
taking his watch off, taking the thing off, and there's
(21:37):
no words. There was no I'm gonna do this. He
didn't even tell us. Rob, just disappear and socks.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Somebody like, I'm just right, but that those are fighters,
those are guys who are I'm not gonna tell you.
I'm not gonna try to scale you into backing down.
I'm gonna hit you and then you'll hit me and
we'll have a fight. And that's how point, Rob, no
doubt point.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
So well, join the weekend whatever you get into you brother, Yes, rooting.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So John Gruden we already talked about the other day
about uh, the judge allowed this to go to be
a case, not arbitration, So that was a victory for
John Gruden and all that. But Kelvin, you can set
this up about it.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
So he wants he wants to coach again exactly. So
he's been you know, he's with Barstool now. So he's
been running around, you know, talking running around, going out
these places, talking about the game with football. And he's
been this in different universities. And now he gets he's, uh,
he's hanging out where in the SEC and he basically
pulls up on Georgia, and you know, Georgia has been
(22:39):
he has been Georgia for the last decade or so,
been running at a really great football organization. And he
basically goes there essentially says, look, I'm gonna be real
with y'all. I'm here because I want to watch it,
I want to be around it, and ultimately I want
to coach again. I ain't gonna be su I'm here
for that. I love it and I want to coach
and it'll be awesome to coach in the SEC. Which
leads us to the conversation of will he coached one
(23:01):
more thing?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Before we started?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
You got a lot of athletic directors, some who anonymously
have said that they had told CBS Sports that they
believe it's gonna be a challenge for him to go
to some big schools, but they do believe he can
get some of the schools outside of the power for
that might be able to you know, take that that
calculator risk. Look at China has to go to small
route first.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I own on some small schools, right. And he had
a prostitution thing going on at his university and they
act like it didn't happen, you know what I mean,
like ultimately, and then he wound up at Saint John's
who were just desperate to turn their program around. We
know we can coach. It's just not the character for kids.
And I'm gonna say the same thing about John Gruden.
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Anybody who sits there and says, well, he deserves a
second jail.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
All that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I want you to really go back and reread the
stuff that he was writing, and homophobic races against women,
against gay people, just just vile and awful stuff. And
when people stand up and go, I know, John Groom,
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that's not weird, but you don't hear that really. So
when nobody was looking, because he thought those emails nobody
would ever see except for his friends. When nobody's looking.
That's who you really are when nobody's looking. That's the
scary part. She's chucky. He's cheesing everybody. And he's the
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football coach, and let me tell you about quarterbacking, and
come on, kid and get on the board and all
that behind closed doors. The stuff. I dare you, I
double dare you, I triple dare you to read that
stuff and act like that's okay. And he made one,
(24:57):
he's made one slip up and no he did not.
This dude from reading that is a sick individual in
my opinion, because I just I could never hear me
Kelvin ever imagine saying that and let loone writing it
and sending it to other people. I couldn't go read it.
(25:21):
Go read it. If you think we're making a big deal.
I wish. I asked Rob g today, could I say
the words? I can't do it? Okay, you can't, but you.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Get I'm going to when you when you're I'm gonna
allude to some of the words you're talking, but you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
If you read them, and if we were to say
the words and read them over and over so that
you could see what this guy is about in his head.
It's disgusting, and he wants to go be with college kids.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Oh god, this is what's disappointing about the Gruden stuff.
I think it is an American way. We want to
build you up, break you down, and give you a
chance built up again. I think America wants to give
you second chances. You made mistakes. I made mistakes, he
the she. Everybody makes mistakes. The difference with this one
is a couple of things. Number One, you if you
go through anybody's text their emails, eventually you might find
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something that was all right, you probably shouldn't have said that,
or ooh, that wasn't a good one. What you're not
gonna find is the full gambit of everything. That's my
issue with this, rob. Somebody might have said a joke
that between their friends and email about something okay, and
you could be like, yo, I apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Me and my friends I got carried away.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That was wrong.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
We all can understand that, because if you go through
and parse do everyone's emails, text message, you're gonna find
something you didn't like or was inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
This was the full gambit.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
He wasn't just sexist like oh man, women this women
shouldn't because it was a lot of it was about
women shouldn't be referees, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And then you go, all right, hey, that was sexist.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Me.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I went through some counseling. I can get better. We
all go all right, you.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Know, hey, he knocked out gays, women, blacks, calling other
people names, talk about dmor Smith, who was the used
to run the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
He talked Aboutdrea Goodell called him the F word.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Roger Goodell called him the F word. And we don't
mean the four letter word, if you know what we're
talking about. And I'm glad you led to that, because
that was going to be an example of something. If
this were nineteen eighty eight, nineteen ninety two, people used
to say that word in a way and it didn't
even mean it in a homophobic word.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
They just were using like you.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Know, if somebody did something, you'll you being gey or
something else. Then you realize you mature, Rob, you grow,
and you say, you know, I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know the last time I said that word, Rob.
Thank you. I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I mean, I mean, even in my text messages, even
to like like I don't even.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Know the last Like, I'll tell you this, I've never
written that in my text message.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
That's what I'm saying, Like, it's just so for him
to fill that free with it. And again, if that's
just one word and he was just me and my guys,
it's that he knocked out every category. He was like,
who else can I offend? Let me think, let me think,
let me think, let me see.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Let me talk about black people and their enormous.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Lie, their enormous lips there Michelin tires, uh sized lips
he talked about, I mean and called you know, Goodell
the F word, called him a clueless anti football P word.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, he knocked out talking about here's another one.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
How they he talking about Goodell and the NFL shouldn't
have forced Jeff Fisher to.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Have to draft that Q word.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I don't even know what we can say it in
this context?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Uh you know?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Uhi, Michael Sam So, like that's my issue. We all
need forgiveness, we all need grace, we all can learn
from a mistakes and improve. But when he's that old,
that age, that flagrantly saying this about multable groups, including
is I guess bosson Goodell? It's like come on, man,
(28:45):
and you tie that to colleges. Where what are colleges?
A bunch of kids from wear rop all.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Over the world.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
You don't even know. You don't know different sensualities.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Like that, like that's what you're harboring. You don't know,
like that whole football macho thing. You don't know who's who.
You don't know that in in the locker room, you
don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Who's talking about. Michael Sam. He might hang go don
Michael SAMs if you will, you know, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
There might be eight Michael SAMs in your locker room
and they just I'm in public with it, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And we keep finding that out.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
More and more guys come out afterwards and say I
didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Then yeah, you know, I'm gay.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
I hate it then or I this that or one
other couple of the teammates knew but I didn't tell.
Every point is I'm not saying he can't go off
and run an amazing insurance company, car dealership. Hey, he
wants to just start his own John Gruten barstool spin off.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Go do that.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
That's why he deserves to be a barstool, just right.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
But the idea that I have to bring him into
a university with all of that baggage, bruh. You know
how you go to an airport, you're getting ready to
go down a flight. Here soon you bring a bag
or two. The brother bought ten twelve things a baggage,
and that's thing.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And if he brought it to Spirit by the way
that they would charge him, they'd be out of dollars.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
They wouldn't They would never have to charge any of
us again in back as he's he has. So that's
my whole point, Rob, I walk in forgiveness. I want
to give everybody a second chance, and I want you
but this.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You could have a second chance, you could work. You
get what he is. He's got a job in football.
He's doing something. I don't want him around kids.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
I don't want him around university, which is about trying
to help spear the minds.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Of young That's what I'm talking about. I'll pass you
have a job. I'm with you. People deserve second chances.
But but to be a leading kid. That's why I
was against the whole Rick Patino thing. To act like
you don't know prostitutions going on in your basketball dorm,
and uh, your your basketball grat assistant making thirty five
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thousand dollars is footing the bill for the prostitution.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Really really, it's like coming man, and then over the
time you leave somewhere Rob in his program, there's always something.
So yeah, John Gruden, Man, like I said, you can't.
He knocked out everything. He was like, what if what?
What a group's can I fan? Give me the whole
and he just took an offensive spray gun and knocked
them all out at once, like got lee.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
John, Well, we want to get as many people in
on this because I want to see where you are
on the John Gruden eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
If you ran a college program, would you consider hiring
John Gruden to be your next head coach? Is very simple,
yay or nay? And why we'll continue this conversation next
(31:29):
with you. It is the odd couple on a funky
flashback Friday, Rob Parker kelvin Washington, and you know what
you need to do, stick and stay.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Because unfortunately for Gruden, we can all read emails on
our phones in the US.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
AVA we sure can.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
The Odd Couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a funky
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That's right, The Eye Couple now.
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(32:27):
Perry Big ten College Countdown on NBC Sports and Peacock
also college football National Champion of Ohio State getting ready
to join us here in about five minutes or so,
Robbie got calls on did the NCAA go to soft?
Did they go soft on Michigan or did they get
it right? Or it's no big deal?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox, they needed
a blue pill to hand down the punishment.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm just saying, oh boy, whoa dude? Rob all right?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Six hours ninety nine base, Big Top. That's all right,
Andre in Massachusetts, you're in the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Andre?
Speaker 10 (33:07):
How you doing? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Taking a call?
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
The model for the NC DOUBLEA should be if you
ain't cheating, you ain't trying, because that's how they conduct business,
particularly as you've noted, if you're a blue blood, and
it really is infuriating. North Carolina was found to have
conducted operated a fraudulent program. They had an entire African
American yep, yep, what don't disrespect?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
What SWAHELI like that.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
Andre right and the anti double A.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
This was found, this is documented. But because they're a
blue blood, because they're North Carolina, the penalty nothing slap
on the ring. Not that I want to see teams
having a championships taken away, but that two thousand and
five Natty with Ray Felton, Sean may mc Rashad McCants.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
Nothing, okay.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So that's what what's really infuriating, beyond the fact that
it is a business and everybody's making money. Hand over
fifth and they're so selected with their enforcement. Okay, this
player over here, got a couple that player over there, frankly,
talk about the Michigan the Fab five. Why don't we
put their banners back up before we're worried about this
enforcement that's not consistent. That's my issue, So Rob, and
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my view is, don't slap these guys on the risk.
Create a better system so that you have a little
bit more validity in what you're doing. Because if you
allow Michigan and North Carolina to get away with it,
but then you penalize the smaller teams, that is more
damaged than if you just didn't do anything at all.
So NCAA Charlie Baker. I think he's the right man
for the job, but this is another thing that he
(34:32):
has to do along with Ni on the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Thanks taking the call, no doubt, Thank you, Dray. What
about Drew in New Jersey the odd couple? Fox Sports Radio?
What's up Drew?
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Hey, I don't think by vacating it's not gonna do much.
I mean, I still look at it like you can
vacate it, but everyone knows they still want it, just
like Reggie Bush's highs and everyone knows Reggie Bush want it,
and like Barry Bonds, everybody knows Barry Bonds has the
record and I don't really care about it.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, but the only and Ruckers hasn't been hasn't been vacated.
It's he in the record books. Whether people want to
vote for him for the Hall of Fame or not,
Barry Bonds is the home run king. Baseball doesn't do that.
The NCAA has taken down banners and you know that
drew and has taken away people's championships and all that
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kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
And they could have done this to say no.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
You can't cheat and you can disgrace Jim Harbar who's
now in the NFL. And is the NFL going to
suspend Jim Harbor now? Because don't you remember what was it?
Arrell Prior who they Yeah, do you remember he got
suspended in the NFL? Did you remember that? Do you
remember that?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I remember that with he got suspended?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He got yeah, and they they suspended him in the NFL.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
He was a Generation two sons and I think he
would have been a top five pick. Patty came out
this year, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then who was
a guy in the nineties on the Nebraska team too,
because I would have fell.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Tommy Fraser, we talked about him yesterday. Tommy Fraser.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
I think I think in baseball, I think we should
bring back steroids. I think there should be a steroids
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
You know what baseball when just baseball is doing just fine,
be honest, tendance is up, you know what I mean?
It was there was a point, JUDI maybe you could
sell that things are good. A lot of good young stars, right,
social media numbers up, streamings up, TV Wade and the tendancy.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I think I'm just saying you don't need to do that.
Speaker 11 (36:39):
I think the sport was better when when Barry Bonds
went from medium hat to a four XL hat.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Okay, I got okay, he's just trying to get the joke.
What else you want to act me on his back?
You know, they just want to I know what you
want to do.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You know what. Drew just wants to go to the
clubhouse so he could pop the pimples off Barry Bonds's back.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
He wants to be a pimple popper. Yeah, that's too
many stall moments for me.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Hey, real quick man, come shoot me in the butt, like, hey, hey, hey,
you got with the steroids back?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, that sounded crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yes, that's like you want to do that. She used
to want to pop a pimple on my back like
it was like somebody of things. I just say, can
you stop?
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Who's shooting rob G? Is what we want to know
is his wife? He she jabbing rob G? Has he
lost weight?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Though?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'm looking at him.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
That's funny, Roger the same? He looks the same to me.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Has he lost a lot of weight?
Speaker 7 (37:32):
I'm not asking, so you're telling me we gov ain't
never gonna call for a commercial?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
No, I'm just asking, Alex.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You're in the room with him. Is there enough room
for you still? Or still the tight?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (37:43):
It just looks like he's like a bobblehead now that
they'll give away like a Dodger game. I think rob
looks great personally.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's my guy.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, you did y'all talk about me today? Patrick? Ever,
let somebody have it. I'm be happy to Yeah. I
was gonna say we are talking about you, but Patrick
is right there, You're right?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (38:00):
All right, Well, hey we got Joshua Perry on the
way Big Tig Cobs count down on NBC Sports and
Peacock and also Champion as well. We'll talk to him
just a minute right now, Steve de Seger, let us
know what's trendy.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Hey, Steve, Hello, guys.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
The Milwaukee Brewers have been red hot for quite some time,
including a current twelve game winning streak, but they're trailing
early at Cincinnati. Young Brewers All Star Jacob Mazerowski, off
the injured list, got the start tonight. He's already out
in the bottom of the second inning at Cincinnati Reds
four Brewers one. Reds are only a half game out
of the last NL wildcard spot behind the slumping Mets.
(38:34):
The Mets are down two to one to Seattle in
the bottom of the second, the one for New Yorker
Francisco Lindor solo home run. It's in progress. The Phillies
leading two to one at the Nationals in the top
of the third. Pittsburgh beat the Cubs in Chicago today
three to two with a solo homer in the top
of the ninth. Pete Crow Armstrong Cubs all star went
three for three, but the rest of the team was
(38:55):
three for twenty seven at the Plate. Mariners first baseman
Josh is out tonight due to illness. Houston closer Josh Hater,
with a stranged shoulders, been shut down for about three weeks.
Houston's the first place team in the AL West, game
and a half over the Mariners. Houston starts in a
half an hour hosting Baltimore. The Yankees go in forty
(39:16):
five minutes at Saint Louis. The Yanks are only a
half game up on Cleveland for the last AL wildcard.
Cleveland in action hosting Atlanta. News from the Braves that
outfielder Ronald Acunya was activated off the injured list. He's
a go for tonight after a strained calf. The A's
designated third baseman go Urshela for assignment. Padres pitcher Michael
King goes on the IL with knee inflammation. Is ERA
(39:38):
this year two point eight one so five and one.
Wandy Peralta will start in LA for the Padres tonight.
That's one of the late games ten pm Eastern time.
The Padres winners of five straight at the Dodgers, who've
lost four in a row. In fact, the Dodger lead
in the division on about July fourth was nine games
Since then, the Dodgers have a record of twelve and
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twenty one one, and the Padres are now in first
in the NL West, a game ahead of la. This
is the latest in a season the Padres have been
in first since twenty ten. As for the other news,
yes from the University of Michigan NCAA saying Michigan gets
a series of fines that could eclipse thirty million dollars,
but no punitive penalties for the advanced scouting case, no
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postseason ban, no vacating of victories, no nothing. And Sebastian
Muno's cards of fifty nine at the Live Golf event
in Indianapolis today already the third sub sixty round and
the brief history of Live Golf, and his round included
a double bogie today.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Back to you all right, Steve, thank you appreciate it.
It's the couple.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
He's Rob.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
I'm Kevin on eight Funky Flashback Friday, and we are
joined now by our guests Joshua Perry, Big ten College
Countdown on NBC Sports and Peacock College Football Playoff National
Champion with some school down south from Anauburt Michigan, oh
I mean Ohio State I'm sorry, my bad.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Joshua, what's up?
Speaker 10 (40:59):
Man?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What's up?
Speaker 10 (41:00):
How are we doing? As Doing'd be back with you guys.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Appreciate your time, no doubt, you know, you know sometimes
my ann arbor comes out. I apologize my bad. Let's
get into it. You just heard what Steve was saying,
and Rob and I just started our show with obviously
the penalties that have come down, mainly just really find
for Michigan thirty million dollars. First, I want to let
me let me go back to the origin of this,
(41:24):
the sign stealing. If you watched the doc allegedly by
the Stallions that he says everybody it was a whole
ring of schools and people were hitting them up and
doing it. And I'm trying to find out the way
he was doing it so successfully and a bunch of
people are part of it. A do you think you
personally think it was that big of a deal and
also how prevalent do.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
You think it is?
Speaker 10 (41:45):
I think it's a big deal when you go to
those lengths. I mean he had a fund with the KGV,
right like, he had a ring of people he was
setting on campus. He had an instructional manual to get
footage and what to tell people if they were asking
why they were reporting the sidelines, like coordinated where they
wanted to sit in the whole deal, right, So, like
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that part of it is so far out of bounds.
I've not heard anything quite like it. There's the other
part where people are hitting them up, Hey, how are
you so good at this? That happens every Sunday. There's
analysts from all the schools all each other up, Hey,
you played such and such last week? We got them
this week.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Do you have.
Speaker 10 (42:21):
Anything on their signals?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Right?
Speaker 10 (42:23):
So, like there is this great area of what science
feeling is and what's gamemanship and what's not. And like
you can make the argument that even the calling up
the analysts from the week before and asking them maybe
crosses the line of gamesmanship. What's so far out of
bounds is what Connor Stallion's coordinated. And I think that's
(42:44):
why this is so interesting to me. And it's funny.
We'll talk about the penalties here in the set. If
you only heard the penalties, the financial penalties are insane,
But outside of that, it's like you probably didn't think
it's that bad. But when you get into the NCAA
report there weren't a great things to say about what
happened there, and it's really intriguing how you reconcile those
(43:04):
two things.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
The only way I would feel good about this is
if they had Jim harbaughn handcuffs today at Chargers Camp.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
That's what they should. Okay, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Joshua, just just for just for a photo op, can
we do? Can we do a purp walk with Harball?
I mean he gets to skate. Everybody else of course
winds up holding the bag. He finally got to win
the championship he was trying to do, and now it
has think on it. I feel bad about the whole thing.
(43:34):
I don't care when they stopped it or whatever. They
cheated to get their situation there, and people should, you know,
not should look down at Michigan because they didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
The right way.
Speaker 10 (43:46):
I think there is this part of me that really
wants people to look into some of the texts at
the NCAA put out in this report. One of the
quotes was harboring a program that was largely dismissive of
rules from there was little if any emphasis on following
the rules right Like that is that's damning about their
whole approach in those last few years of his tenure
(44:09):
to that program. They have the recruiting violations, the COVID
era ones, they had other things going on there. They
had a staffer who was also like moonlighting, is an
Internet hacker, and then they have this counter stallions. Think happened.
This wasn't a lot of oversight there, And I get
it right, Like, I've been a champion before. I know
what that feels like, and I know what I would
do to try to get back there if I was
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still playing the game. But there's obviously this part of
you that says, you just got to go out there
and compete, and you got to do it the right way.
So the way that Harbaugh has talked about is obviously
not great. Counter stallions and things the NCAA had to
say about and make them seem like a total nut
job there. But there is this other part of me, though,
as a competitor, that I want people to understand how
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serious this is. But there's also the player side of it,
where I don't think any of those guys really knew
what was going on, and so I'm struggle to treat
it discredit that season because guys still had to go
out there.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
No, I.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Disagree. I disagree with that because they're put in position
to be able to make those plays and because you've
cheated and even though they didn't know. It's just like
the Tom Brady where he's the quarterback and the Patriots
stole the defensive signals to the other team. Oh that wow,
that's open. Okay, Wow, that's open. How come that's open?
(45:33):
How come they know that? Because they had the signals
And even though Tom Brady might have been playing and
just doing what they told them, there still was a
degree of cheating. And I'm not saying the players cheated,
but they cheated to get them in the position to
where they could have success. And that's why you can
discredit them winning a championship, no doubt.
Speaker 10 (45:53):
Let me let me rephrase them that. Don't want to
dispreadit the effort of the players that were on the field.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I think that's so okay, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 10 (46:03):
I want to keep out of You know, it's off
limits for me because I know those guys person from
covering them, I know how hard they work. But to
your point, like there's one's going to be a stinking
a team on this the championship that they won. Like
people are gonna look back and they're gonna associate the
championship season that Michigan had with Conner Sallions. Those two
things can't be separated. But I don't want the players
(46:24):
have to go unrecognized because of that, which is a
tough thing to try to reconcile.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
That's where that's where we'll disagree. I think people are
gonna absolutely forget about it. I think they're just going
to talk about that team as winners, and I think
no one's really going to care, especially when.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
It comes it wasn't sounds like a Michigan home.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
I can tell you that in all sports, I'll tell
you that it just just about no one dozen people
they've did.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
The Astros had a cheeny scandal, and even though they
won a championship, there were still people who don't like
the astec.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
And we brought it up. There are.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
There are some people who won't care, and there are
people who because they're banging on something we could hear
when you're talking about filming something a game that anybody
could go to, I think people just aren't gonna remember
it enough.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Whereas the astros people, where.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Were they doing it? My pointing, clearly it works if
it's irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (47:13):
I didn't irrelevant I'm saying, And the factor of people caring,
I don't think people can not to disagree.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Cheating is not what you paid for.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
That's not I want to see if you find out.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's if when you cheat, and when you're doing this, Joshua,
where you might I might as well be pro wrestling,
all right.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
If it's gonna be fake, that's not what people want.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
They want to believe that there's some competition going on
and that people are on equal footing. If I knew
that they were lobbing the ball of Barry Bonds so
you could get the home run record, it doesn't feel
as good. It doesn't feel the same to me. If
I find out later and.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
If they were proving the ball to them, the difference
is people are gonna be with it.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
This is okay.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
They're filling the game that was happening anyway. They'll be right.
The average person. I'm not talking about someone to Joshua's point,
who went all the way reading from bottom of the
end and text to text in all of it. The
average person, well, how they filmed some games probably whatever,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I think that's just the way it is right now
in society.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
Real quick, before we get you out there, Joshua An,
who's winning the Big Ten?
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Since you're covering that, is it? Penn State's you're to
sneak in there?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Is it? Ohio States to Well?
Speaker 7 (48:17):
I know they you know, they didn't win it the
Big Ting obviously, but they also win the Natty.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
So what do you expect from the Big Ten?
Speaker 10 (48:24):
You know, it's an interesting question, right because I did
this thing last year where it's like, Okay, can Ryan
Day do it?
Speaker 6 (48:30):
Right?
Speaker 10 (48:30):
Like, I hadn't really seen him do it since the
early part of his tenure, and it became this, well
Ryan Day can't do it, and all of a sudden
he made everybody look goofy win the National Championship. I
know we're talking about the Big Ten race here, But
the moral of that story is I'm going to start
the season off by not saying that James Franklin can't
do it. I'm just gonna say that we haven't really
seen him do it yet. That team that he has
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very veteran, veteran quarterback, which a lot of teams in
the Big Ten top contenders certainly don't have. They're gonna
be great in the running back room. That offensive line
is going to be deep. Their defensive line is going
to be really good. I like what they have in
the secondary. They like both of their coordinators. I'm saying
Penn State is going to win it Wellhao State is
going to be in the mix of challenge. But they
have so many new faces, very talented. But you got
(49:14):
to say about all the guys that they had last
year that really stepped up in that playoff run, many
of them are gone. The other two teams that are
really intriguing to me. Illinois is the one that everybody
talks about now. They're not even really a dark horse anymore.
They're super veteran and Brett belm as a coach who
is very used to winning with less in the Big Ten.
He's done that before. So can it recreate some of
(49:36):
that magic there at Illinois? Not quite sure yet. Men
Orgon right, the team that's tighthly capitalized. They do a
great job in the portal. They've got the great young coach.
They're a really talented team. But they've got a quarterback
who played as a freshman Dante Moore at UCLA decided
to transfer and sit down for a year. Is he
going to be that guy? Well, they have the wide
receiver production. He had a huge injury at that position.
(49:58):
I think it's a four team rate, says I look
at it in the preseason. But I'm gonna go ahead
and take ten Saints and say that James Franklin can
get a dust.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I would rather take Franklin from the Peanuts at this
point than James Franklin.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say Franklin from Snowfall.
I didn't know where he was going. I'm just saying, Joshua,
thank you. Joshua appreciates Joshua. And there it lies.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
I were the odd couple. You said the Peanuts, and
I'm over here talking about Snowfall. Right there is the
divide right there in the odd couple. All right, Joshua Perry,
go give a follow, mister Joshua Perry on X coming
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See how Rod Ferreed.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
Try to take a sneak peak se in his face.
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I see you drinking the Diapepsy, No it's dark coke.
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But you guess what here in New York? Get sow
much it cost from the machine?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Alex?
Speaker 3 (50:43):
How much does it cost there at the in l
A dollar dollar or something?
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Dollar ten?
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Get so much you cost for for a can here
in New York? A sense five cents? That would have
been a great teeth outside.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
You blew it twenty five cents. I heeart the same company.
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At that point in New York, and at that point, honestly,
I'm mad at them.
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Just give it to you, you know what, at that point,
just take it that you know what, I'm trying to
get a twenty four pack to put in my suitcase
to take Rob You're.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Willing to sacrifice clothes to get those sodas up in there?
All right?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
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I gotta admit that song. I think every city region
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Here that's top three, like that is just amazing.
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Make up for it or what one with the starting
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I know, right, that's great.
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I went ten straight months without taking time off because
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And now I'm piled up with these days and I
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And now that is true. I'll give you this. You
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About the same you've been with the AKA at Fox
Sports Radio. You get all those a crude days. At
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That's what? Did he just give us his own drop?
Maybe that was me, but I'll use it now.
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I don't know who Patrick?
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Nice Patrick?
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So I don't know who.
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Speaker 2 (07:14):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (07:14):
Where, I don't know where?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
Where you're in Nity Field, the Mariners against the Mets. Okay,
that's my vacation. I'm pathetic.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, it sounds more like work to me. Sounds like
you cut to something.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
I'm going to hang out with my buddies who I
never get to really hang out with. So we're gonna
go to the game and chill out as at four o'clock.
Then I got a little dinner date after that at eight.
I mean I got a full schedule dinner date date
or like dinner date, like dinner date, like a little
all right, we got to show to do kids. Hey,
let's go here and uh, you know you grew up
(07:48):
in ann Arbor, Yes, sir, right there with Michigan and
uh uh the hammer came down. You got the details
on details and it's mostly money and fines and stuff.
Speaker 7 (08:00):
But go ahead, there's where I think we're gonna have
a quick the kind of the start of the conversation,
Rob will be because hammer becomes relative. Is it a hammer?
Is it a sledgehammer? Depended on the school to me,
that's how I look at it. But let's break it down.
So we already know what happened when they started to
rule down some of the things that happened. And last
year this goes back to the twenty twenty three when
(08:20):
the whole videotaping suspensions and scandals.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
So the nc.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
DOUBLEA Division one Committee on in Fractions rule that Michigan's
advanced scouting case.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We know what that was.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Weren't you in the documentary. I wasn't a documentary. I
was on a plane and a guy was watching it
at the very point where I'm sitting next to him,
and I come on the screen that is hilarious. And
he looked over at me, look back at the screen,
looks at me again, look back. I said, Yeah, that
was me.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
That is freaking hilarious. That is that was weird. It
was that was I just threw a tomato at my
TV when you popped up. I was like him again.
Speaker 7 (08:56):
The NCUBA also imposed an additional games for Sharon Moore, who
is obviously now the head coach was the offensive coordinator.
Then when the investigation was going on, he's gonna be serving.
So he's gonna miss the first game of the twenty
twenty six season. Don't forget, he's already gonna be missing
a couple games coming up this season as well, part
of the first original ruling that happened. And then also
(09:19):
have a you have a two year show cause penalty
for him, and then you have a ten year show
cause for Jim Harbaugh, which is already on top of
the four years that he got. And the big other
thing is the thirty million dollars as well that the
schools be facing.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
And fine, so that's the gist of it right there.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Can I tell you this once again, the NCAA proves
how ineffective it is and they let Michigan off the hook.
Because it can't be just financial. They should be banned
from participating in the college football playoffs. They should they
out and out cheated like the Astros like basically to
(09:58):
get an upper hand. And for all you miss Chigan
cry babies and all that who try to act like, oh,
you don't really matter, because one day shop did they
still won?
Speaker 3 (10:08):
For a game you won the championship.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
You wouldn't be cheating if it didn't affect you in
a positive way. Kelvin, you know what I mean. You
would never do it, so it does give you an advantage.
And the NCAA should have thrown the book at Michigan
and then they should have gone to Chargers camp and
put Jim Harbor on handcuffs and lead him out of camp.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Now that's what I would have wanted to see.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
And stuff gonna burn his khakis. I'm just saying, like,
even if it's just for jes to let him know
that he's a criminal when it comes to college football
and that that championship you want is tainted and all
this idea that Jim Harball did it right.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
It's funny when things turned around.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
You remember when he got the pay cut, uh and
the losing the Ohio State and all that right, and
Jim Harbaugh was was pissed that they cut a soury
You remember that. Yeah, there was no delions. Wouldn't even
take an interview with him, you remember that. I mean
it was wouldn't even interview him. That's how much he
had fallen because he kept losing that Michigan to Ohio State,
and then all of a sudden, when the cheating scandal started,
(11:16):
they started to turn it around, started to beat Ohio
State and all this kind of stuff, and they win
a national championship and then he gets out of dodge.
But that is it. I think that they got off light.
I think the NCAA is ineffective and a joke, and
I don't even know why they even exists.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I think that they got off light because of who
they are. I think those fines and penalties will hurt
somebody else if it was a smaller school, right, thirty
million dollars, there's nothing to sneeze at except if you're
in Michigan. So to me, the NCAA wasted all of
our time doubling back, coming back with these penalties, because
what ultimately needed to have happened rob to really make
a difference. If you really were going to put your
(11:55):
stamp on it, if you're gonna say it with your chest,
that would be to vacate the twenty twenty three now
the title.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They knew it.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
They didn't do any of the postseason games. They didn't
do it.
Speaker 7 (12:05):
So if you're Michigan, to me, which I believe, and
you saw we talked about the documentary.
Speaker 1 (12:10):
Other schools are absolutely.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Doing and Michigan got caught.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's absolutely worth And what I mean by it is if.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You're always about getting caught, right.
Speaker 7 (12:18):
Right exactly, who's the one that got caught? Everybody's doing it.
That's why these kids are all going twenty five thirty
d and you know, smashing grabs in LA and all
over the country because they're figuring if thirty of us
do it, it's gonna be hard to catch any of
you know what I mean, because it's thirty of us,
so that it says opposed to me and you where
it's easy to catch one of us or two of us.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
My point is Michigan was caught cheating.
Speaker 7 (12:36):
They were doing this filming all these these practices and
games and whatnot, as were other schools. But they got caught,
and the NCAA essentially smacked them on the riskiain because
if you're Michigan, let me tell you what is not
nothing to you.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Thirty million dollars, you got one hundred and.
Speaker 7 (12:51):
Ten plus thousand people in your stadium seven eight times
a year, right, you're about to make that any ass?
You know what you're gonna make that on national championship
merchandise that you got. You already made that thirty million dollars. Baby,
that was easy to make because you went to the postseason,
you went to the championship.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Get go out, d ncach one should go and collect
all those championship T shirts and send the Cambodia right now,
and we say that that's the that's the penalty they got.
Speaker 3 (13:18):
Let's take it.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
They got to go get the other ones from Cambodia,
the losing ones right there. You know, they already got
the who was it Georgia? Who was the Alabama? You're
a national champion?
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Whoever it was, those are the ones that are there
they're gonna get.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
We got double T shirts.
Speaker 7 (13:29):
This is not I think it was Washington think it
was Washington State. But so let me let me break
down a couple more things. This is why it was Again,
we just talked about why it wasn't worth anything for NCUBA,
because if you're Michigan, it's worth it. Michigan was trying
to play big boy college football. They had been really
good under Jim Harbaugh, but they weren't that last top
tier upper echelon, right They weren't. When it comes to
the Clemsons, the Alabama, the Georgia's, Ohio States, they weren't.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
That they finally got back to that.
Speaker 7 (13:54):
They finally for about a three or four year run,
beat Ohio State, which you know, you spent twenty years
in Michigan. That is the end all, be all, dang it,
if we can do nothing else, be Ohio State.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And they did that. So all of that while John
Cooper got fired at Ohio State.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
He couldn't be Michigan. He couldn't be Michigan one hundred percent.
Speaker 7 (14:11):
So beating Ohio State's braids in for four years, winning
the National Championship, getting your program back to the top, top,
top tier was absolutely worth it. You went, you won
the Natty, you made that thirty million in eons plus.
Speaker 3 (14:24):
So then you have that last point, Rob.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
I think the NC DOUBLEA didn't want to go overboard
vacating wins, titles and all of that because I think
they looked and learned from the lesson they did with
the Fab five when they when they took back those
two National Championship appearances, they lost in the games with
those appearances, those all of those games, all those records
with the Fab five and they took inter race the
whole Fab five, and there was a lot of backlash.
(14:48):
I think you might have still been to Michigan when
that was happening, and so therefore.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I think the NC DOUBLEA said, how.
Speaker 7 (14:53):
Can we look like we did something or were tough,
but not ultimately cost Michigan, a blue blood in the
NC DOUBLEA and not have them, you know, and and
really feel in the penalties. That's what I think happened there.
So they really didn't do anything but waste all of
our time. If you really want to keep it real,
it's a total waste of tom.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
I told you. NCAA is outdated, it's antiquated, it's weak.
It has no power, right power, It has no power,
like like like here's somebody blatantly cheating and you you're
not even tough enough to say, hey, we're gonna take
that championship.
Speaker 3 (15:30):
They've done it in college.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
They don't do it in the pros, but they do
it in college all the time. Vacate stuff, and it's
been done over and over our at eight seven, they
vacated that.
Speaker 7 (15:39):
Uh cal Calipari with the Memphis when they got to
national championship go vacated.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
He's some of his wins.
Speaker 7 (15:45):
I just think the NCAA also, last point ten seconds.
I think they're scared because Big ten and the SEC
are a handful of days away from being like, you.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Know what, let's start our own thing.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Yeah, but a few of the other schools in the
in the Big ten, I don't know how you feel
good about letting Michigan cheat.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
I'm like, seriously, like me, were the fear of the NCAA,
not the other Big ten teams?
Speaker 1 (16:09):
No, but I'm saying, but I'm saying, if you're if
you're the NCAAA, if you want to make something, you
make Michigan pay a penalty.
Speaker 7 (16:17):
Well, you know, rob Ohio State was the one who's alleged.
You know that, So they don't they got caught. They
got caught, I know. I'm saying Ohio State was the
ones who might have ratted them out allegedly. So I
don't think all the Big ten teams are happy with it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
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Speaker 7 (18:33):
For three hundred subscribers. I just looked at our page. Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
We got we're moving on up, move and on up.
Speaker 7 (18:41):
Yeah, and I think we have any uh any rivals.
By the way, just that out there when it comes
to that, I'm just saying. It's just saying, we're just
giving facts, no feelings.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
Just facts, all facts with a cover sheet too. What
is the facts?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
What is z big facts? No? No, no plans? This weekend?
Speaker 7 (18:56):
Man, kind of back to it, you know, feeling feeling
good and get a haircut, you know, you know, obviously
we both were gone.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
You're back gone again.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
So kind of take care of some errands and run
around things that I wouldn't haven't been able to do
throughout the week.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
So looking forward to that.
Speaker 7 (19:09):
Man a little chill, you know, and Big Mike try
to maybe low key, don't tell nobody, maybe.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Swing some golf clubs this weekend. Wow, Okay, that'll be
fun out there and doing that. Yes, And I'm gonna
be going to do a little vaca and I'll be back.
And one thing I just wanted to mention briefly and
just so not this week, the far and week, I'm
gonna go to Hawaii by myself and just reset. And
I think I told you I'm going to unplugged, basically
(19:36):
plug my phone in the charge it no phone, no
social media or anything for three days and you can
do I want to read. Yes, I'm gonna read, listen
to music, get massages on the beach. Maybe they'll put
an apple in my mouth like I'm a pig and
I'll be eating like crazy. Alex, what do you think
(19:58):
am I gonna be able to do this? Reset? Because
you know, Alex is happy that I'm doing this because
he thinks.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
I'm overdo it. It's true.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
So do you think I'll be able to sing it.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
I think everything is kept to social media. I don't
buy that one.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Why but if I'm off my phone, I'm not going
to go on social media.
Speaker 7 (20:17):
No, I don't think you're going to post, but I
think you're going to be a lurker, Alex.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
You know how people always say no.
Speaker 8 (20:22):
No, that's just Lebron.
Speaker 3 (20:25):
That's why I had no argument there.
Speaker 8 (20:26):
Yeah, he's an egotistical maniac.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
He has to announce every time. Hey, yo, I'm about
to go zero dark thirty. You don't have to do it,
just just just do it.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
At this point, my gosh.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
You never know.
Speaker 8 (20:40):
The best risk we've ever had on social media is
this one. It's that simple.
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Just so you know, at midnight, I'm doing a social
media Clint. Okay, we got it, Lebron, thank you.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
It's just like it's just like the guys and you
guys know this, who really are are fighters, who are
real fighters. They don't announce that I'm gonna punch you
in the face, right they walk up to you and
punch you in the face. Dude, you ain't never I'm
gonna punch you in the face. You come ahead, keep
keeping I'm gonna put other guys who are serious and
(21:13):
about it. They come up to you and they punch
you in the face.
Speaker 7 (21:17):
Right, Calvert man, you ain't never I remember we were
kind of getting into it back in the younger days.
You know, these guys want a little smoke and a
friend that's just say disappears and we're like, where is
our friend at dode We see him, he's already walking
towards him. No words, gun on the side of him,
taking his watch off, taking the thing off, and there's
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no words. There was no I'm gonna do this. He
didn't even tell us. Rob, just disappear and socks.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Somebody like, I'm just right, but that those are fighters,
those are guys who are I'm not gonna tell you.
I'm not gonna try to scale you into backing down.
I'm gonna hit you and then you'll hit me and
we'll have a fight. And that's how point, Rob, no
doubt point.
Speaker 7 (21:55):
So well, join the weekend whatever you get into you brother, Yes, rooting.
Speaker 1 (22:01):
So John Gruden we already talked about the other day
about uh, the judge allowed this to go to be
a case, not arbitration, So that was a victory for
John Gruden and all that. But Kelvin, you can set
this up about it.
Speaker 7 (22:18):
So he wants he wants to coach again exactly. So
he's been you know, he's with Barstool now. So he's
been running around, you know, talking running around, going out
these places, talking about the game with football. And he's
been this in different universities. And now he gets he's, uh,
he's hanging out where in the SEC and he basically
pulls up on Georgia, and you know, Georgia has been
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he has been Georgia for the last decade or so,
been running at a really great football organization. And he
basically goes there essentially says, look, I'm gonna be real
with y'all. I'm here because I want to watch it,
I want to be around it, and ultimately I want
to coach again. I ain't gonna be su I'm here
for that. I love it and I want to coach
and it'll be awesome to coach in the SEC. Which
leads us to the conversation of will he coached one
(23:01):
more thing?
Speaker 3 (23:02):
Before we started?
Speaker 7 (23:03):
You got a lot of athletic directors, some who anonymously
have said that they had told CBS Sports that they
believe it's gonna be a challenge for him to go
to some big schools, but they do believe he can
get some of the schools outside of the power for
that might be able to you know, take that that
calculator risk. Look at China has to go to small
route first.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
I own on some small schools, right. And he had
a prostitution thing going on at his university and they
act like it didn't happen, you know what I mean,
like ultimately, and then he wound up at Saint John's
who were just desperate to turn their program around. We
know we can coach. It's just not the character for kids.
And I'm gonna say the same thing about John Gruden.
(23:44):
Anybody who sits there and says, well, he deserves a
second jail.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
All that.
Speaker 1 (23:51):
I want you to really go back and reread the
stuff that he was writing, and homophobic races against women,
against gay people, just just vile and awful stuff. And
when people stand up and go, I know, John Groom,
(24:11):
that's not weird, but you don't hear that really. So
when nobody was looking, because he thought those emails nobody
would ever see except for his friends. When nobody's looking.
That's who you really are when nobody's looking. That's the
scary part. She's chucky. He's cheesing everybody. And he's the
(24:36):
football coach, and let me tell you about quarterbacking, and
come on, kid and get on the board and all
that behind closed doors. The stuff. I dare you, I
double dare you, I triple dare you to read that
stuff and act like that's okay. And he made one,
(24:57):
he's made one slip up and no he did not.
This dude from reading that is a sick individual in
my opinion, because I just I could never hear me
Kelvin ever imagine saying that and let loone writing it
and sending it to other people. I couldn't go read it.
(25:21):
Go read it. If you think we're making a big deal.
I wish. I asked Rob g today, could I say
the words? I can't do it? Okay, you can't, but you.
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Get I'm going to when you when you're I'm gonna
allude to some of the words you're talking, but you
know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
If you read them, and if we were to say
the words and read them over and over so that
you could see what this guy is about in his head.
It's disgusting, and he wants to go be with college kids.
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Oh god, this is what's disappointing about the Gruden stuff.
I think it is an American way. We want to
build you up, break you down, and give you a
chance built up again. I think America wants to give
you second chances. You made mistakes. I made mistakes, he
the she. Everybody makes mistakes. The difference with this one
is a couple of things. Number One, you if you
go through anybody's text their emails, eventually you might find
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something that was all right, you probably shouldn't have said that,
or ooh, that wasn't a good one. What you're not
gonna find is the full gambit of everything. That's my
issue with this, rob. Somebody might have said a joke
that between their friends and email about something okay, and
you could be like, yo, I apologize for that.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
Me and my friends I got carried away.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That was wrong.
Speaker 7 (26:31):
We all can understand that, because if you go through
and parse do everyone's emails, text message, you're gonna find
something you didn't like or was inappropriate.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
This was the full gambit.
Speaker 7 (26:39):
He wasn't just sexist like oh man, women this women
shouldn't because it was a lot of it was about
women shouldn't be referees, okay.
Speaker 1 (26:45):
And then you go, all right, hey, that was sexist.
Speaker 9 (26:47):
Me.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
I went through some counseling. I can get better. We
all go all right, you.
Speaker 7 (26:50):
Know, hey, he knocked out gays, women, blacks, calling other
people names, talk about dmor Smith, who was the used
to run the NFLPA.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
He talked Aboutdrea Goodell called him the F word.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
Roger Goodell called him the F word. And we don't
mean the four letter word, if you know what we're
talking about. And I'm glad you led to that, because
that was going to be an example of something. If
this were nineteen eighty eight, nineteen ninety two, people used
to say that word in a way and it didn't
even mean it in a homophobic word.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
They just were using like you.
Speaker 7 (27:19):
Know, if somebody did something, you'll you being gey or
something else. Then you realize you mature, Rob, you grow,
and you say, you know, I shouldn't say that.
Speaker 1 (27:28):
I don't know the last time I said that word, Rob.
Thank you. I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (27:32):
I mean, I mean, even in my text messages, even
to like like I don't even.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Know the last Like, I'll tell you this, I've never
written that in my text message.
Speaker 7 (27:41):
That's what I'm saying, Like, it's just so for him
to fill that free with it. And again, if that's
just one word and he was just me and my guys,
it's that he knocked out every category. He was like,
who else can I offend? Let me think, let me think,
let me think, let me see.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Let me talk about black people and their enormous.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
Lie, their enormous lips there Michelin tires, uh sized lips
he talked about, I mean and called you know, Goodell
the F word, called him a clueless anti football P word.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I mean, he knocked out talking about here's another one.
Speaker 7 (28:14):
How they he talking about Goodell and the NFL shouldn't
have forced Jeff Fisher to.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
Have to draft that Q word.
Speaker 1 (28:21):
I don't even know what we can say it in
this context?
Speaker 3 (28:23):
Uh you know?
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Uhi, Michael Sam So, like that's my issue. We all
need forgiveness, we all need grace, we all can learn
from a mistakes and improve. But when he's that old,
that age, that flagrantly saying this about multable groups, including
is I guess bosson Goodell? It's like come on, man,
(28:45):
and you tie that to colleges. Where what are colleges?
A bunch of kids from wear rop all.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Over the world.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
You don't even know. You don't know different sensualities.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (28:55):
Do you know?
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Right?
Speaker 1 (28:57):
Like that, like that's what you're harboring. You don't know,
like that whole football macho thing. You don't know who's who.
You don't know that in in the locker room, you
don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Who's talking about. Michael Sam. He might hang go don
Michael SAMs if you will, you know, thank you.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
There might be eight Michael SAMs in your locker room
and they just I'm in public with it, you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
And we keep finding that out.
Speaker 7 (29:18):
More and more guys come out afterwards and say I
didn't want to talk about it.
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Then yeah, you know, I'm gay.
Speaker 7 (29:24):
I hate it then or I this that or one
other couple of the teammates knew but I didn't tell.
Every point is I'm not saying he can't go off
and run an amazing insurance company, car dealership. Hey, he
wants to just start his own John Gruten barstool spin off.
Speaker 3 (29:39):
Go do that.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
That's why he deserves to be a barstool, just right.
Speaker 7 (29:43):
But the idea that I have to bring him into
a university with all of that baggage, bruh. You know
how you go to an airport, you're getting ready to
go down a flight. Here soon you bring a bag
or two. The brother bought ten twelve things a baggage,
and that's thing.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
And if he brought it to Spirit by the way
that they would charge him, they'd be out of dollars.
Speaker 7 (30:03):
They wouldn't They would never have to charge any of
us again in back as he's he has. So that's
my whole point, Rob, I walk in forgiveness. I want
to give everybody a second chance, and I want you
but this.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
You could have a second chance, you could work. You
get what he is. He's got a job in football.
He's doing something. I don't want him around kids.
Speaker 7 (30:20):
I don't want him around university, which is about trying
to help spear the minds.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Of young That's what I'm talking about. I'll pass you
have a job. I'm with you. People deserve second chances.
But but to be a leading kid. That's why I
was against the whole Rick Patino thing. To act like
you don't know prostitutions going on in your basketball dorm,
and uh, your your basketball grat assistant making thirty five
(30:44):
thousand dollars is footing the bill for the prostitution.
Speaker 7 (30:47):
Really really, it's like coming man, and then over the
time you leave somewhere Rob in his program, there's always something.
So yeah, John Gruden, Man, like I said, you can't.
He knocked out everything. He was like, what if what?
What a group's can I fan? Give me the whole
and he just took an offensive spray gun and knocked
them all out at once, like got lee.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
John, Well, we want to get as many people in
on this because I want to see where you are
on the John Gruden eight seven, seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
If you ran a college program, would you consider hiring
John Gruden to be your next head coach? Is very simple,
yay or nay? And why we'll continue this conversation next
(31:29):
with you. It is the odd couple on a funky
flashback Friday, Rob Parker kelvin Washington, and you know what
you need to do, stick and stay.
Speaker 8 (31:41):
Because unfortunately for Gruden, we can all read emails on
our phones in the US.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
AVA we sure can.
Speaker 1 (31:47):
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 7 (31:50):
The Odd Couple Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a funky
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That's right, The Eye Couple now.
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(32:27):
Perry Big ten College Countdown on NBC Sports and Peacock
also college football National Champion of Ohio State getting ready
to join us here in about five minutes or so,
Robbie got calls on did the NCAA go to soft?
Did they go soft on Michigan or did they get
it right? Or it's no big deal?
Speaker 1 (32:44):
Eight seven to seven ninety nine on Fox, they needed
a blue pill to hand down the punishment.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'm just saying, oh boy, whoa dude? Rob all right?
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Six hours ninety nine base, Big Top. That's all right,
Andre in Massachusetts, you're in the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Andre?
Speaker 10 (33:07):
How you doing? Thanks?
Speaker 6 (33:08):
Taking a call?
Speaker 10 (33:08):
Listen.
Speaker 6 (33:09):
The model for the NC DOUBLEA should be if you
ain't cheating, you ain't trying, because that's how they conduct business,
particularly as you've noted, if you're a blue blood, and
it really is infuriating. North Carolina was found to have
conducted operated a fraudulent program. They had an entire African
American yep, yep, what don't disrespect?
Speaker 3 (33:30):
What SWAHELI like that.
Speaker 10 (33:31):
Andre right and the anti double A.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
This was found, this is documented. But because they're a
blue blood, because they're North Carolina, the penalty nothing slap
on the ring. Not that I want to see teams
having a championships taken away, but that two thousand and
five Natty with Ray Felton, Sean may mc Rashad McCants.
Speaker 10 (33:48):
Nothing, okay.
Speaker 6 (33:49):
So that's what what's really infuriating, beyond the fact that
it is a business and everybody's making money. Hand over
fifth and they're so selected with their enforcement. Okay, this
player over here, got a couple that player over there, frankly,
talk about the Michigan the Fab five. Why don't we
put their banners back up before we're worried about this
enforcement that's not consistent. That's my issue, So Rob, and
(34:12):
my view is, don't slap these guys on the risk.
Create a better system so that you have a little
bit more validity in what you're doing. Because if you
allow Michigan and North Carolina to get away with it,
but then you penalize the smaller teams, that is more
damaged than if you just didn't do anything at all.
So NCAA Charlie Baker. I think he's the right man
for the job, but this is another thing that he
(34:32):
has to do along with Ni on the transfer portal.
Speaker 1 (34:35):
Thanks taking the call, no doubt, Thank you, Dray. What
about Drew in New Jersey the odd couple? Fox Sports Radio?
What's up Drew?
Speaker 11 (34:43):
Hey, I don't think by vacating it's not gonna do much.
I mean, I still look at it like you can
vacate it, but everyone knows they still want it, just
like Reggie Bush's highs and everyone knows Reggie Bush want it,
and like Barry Bonds, everybody knows Barry Bonds has the
record and I don't really care about it.
Speaker 1 (34:59):
Yeah, but the only and Ruckers hasn't been hasn't been vacated.
It's he in the record books. Whether people want to
vote for him for the Hall of Fame or not,
Barry Bonds is the home run king. Baseball doesn't do that.
The NCAA has taken down banners and you know that
drew and has taken away people's championships and all that
(35:21):
kind of stuff.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
And they could have done this to say no.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
You can't cheat and you can disgrace Jim Harbar who's
now in the NFL. And is the NFL going to
suspend Jim Harbor now? Because don't you remember what was it?
Arrell Prior who they Yeah, do you remember he got
suspended in the NFL? Did you remember that? Do you
remember that?
Speaker 3 (35:45):
I remember that with he got suspended?
Speaker 1 (35:49):
He got yeah, and they they suspended him in the NFL.
Speaker 11 (35:57):
He was a Generation two sons and I think he
would have been a top five pick. Patty came out
this year, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then who was
a guy in the nineties on the Nebraska team too,
because I would have fell.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
Tommy Fraser, we talked about him yesterday. Tommy Fraser.
Speaker 6 (36:15):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 11 (36:15):
I think I think in baseball, I think we should
bring back steroids. I think there should be a steroids
Oh my.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
You know what baseball when just baseball is doing just fine,
be honest, tendance is up, you know what I mean?
It was there was a point, JUDI maybe you could
sell that things are good. A lot of good young stars, right,
social media numbers up, streamings up, TV Wade and the tendancy.
Speaker 3 (36:37):
I think I'm just saying you don't need to do that.
Speaker 11 (36:39):
I think the sport was better when when Barry Bonds
went from medium hat to a four XL hat.
Speaker 7 (36:44):
Okay, I got okay, he's just trying to get the joke.
What else you want to act me on his back?
You know, they just want to I know what you
want to do.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
You know what. Drew just wants to go to the
clubhouse so he could pop the pimples off Barry Bonds's back.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
He wants to be a pimple popper. Yeah, that's too
many stall moments for me.
Speaker 7 (37:01):
Hey, real quick man, come shoot me in the butt, like, hey, hey, hey,
you got with the steroids back?
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, that sounded crazy.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
Yes, that's like you want to do that. She used
to want to pop a pimple on my back like
it was like somebody of things. I just say, can
you stop?
Speaker 7 (37:19):
Who's shooting rob G? Is what we want to know
is his wife? He she jabbing rob G? Has he
lost weight?
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Though?
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I'm looking at him.
Speaker 3 (37:28):
That's funny, Roger the same? He looks the same to me.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Has he lost a lot of weight?
Speaker 7 (37:32):
I'm not asking, so you're telling me we gov ain't
never gonna call for a commercial?
Speaker 1 (37:37):
No, I'm just asking, Alex.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
You're in the room with him. Is there enough room
for you still? Or still the tight?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Okay?
Speaker 8 (37:43):
It just looks like he's like a bobblehead now that
they'll give away like a Dodger game. I think rob
looks great personally.
Speaker 1 (37:49):
That's my guy.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Okay, Patrick, Patrick, Patrick, you did y'all talk about me today? Patrick? Ever,
let somebody have it. I'm be happy to Yeah. I
was gonna say we are talking about you, but Patrick
is right there, You're right?
Speaker 1 (37:59):
Okay?
Speaker 7 (38:00):
All right, Well, hey we got Joshua Perry on the
way Big Tig Cobs count down on NBC Sports and
Peacock and also Champion as well. We'll talk to him
just a minute right now, Steve de Seger, let us
know what's trendy.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Hey, Steve, Hello, guys.
Speaker 9 (38:11):
The Milwaukee Brewers have been red hot for quite some time,
including a current twelve game winning streak, but they're trailing
early at Cincinnati. Young Brewers All Star Jacob Mazerowski, off
the injured list, got the start tonight. He's already out
in the bottom of the second inning at Cincinnati Reds
four Brewers one. Reds are only a half game out
of the last NL wildcard spot behind the slumping Mets.
(38:34):
The Mets are down two to one to Seattle in
the bottom of the second, the one for New Yorker
Francisco Lindor solo home run. It's in progress. The Phillies
leading two to one at the Nationals in the top
of the third. Pittsburgh beat the Cubs in Chicago today
three to two with a solo homer in the top
of the ninth. Pete Crow Armstrong Cubs all star went
three for three, but the rest of the team was
(38:55):
three for twenty seven at the Plate. Mariners first baseman
Josh is out tonight due to illness. Houston closer Josh Hater,
with a stranged shoulders, been shut down for about three weeks.
Houston's the first place team in the AL West, game
and a half over the Mariners. Houston starts in a
half an hour hosting Baltimore. The Yankees go in forty
(39:16):
five minutes at Saint Louis. The Yanks are only a
half game up on Cleveland for the last AL wildcard.
Cleveland in action hosting Atlanta. News from the Braves that
outfielder Ronald Acunya was activated off the injured list. He's
a go for tonight after a strained calf. The A's
designated third baseman go Urshela for assignment. Padres pitcher Michael
King goes on the IL with knee inflammation. Is ERA
(39:38):
this year two point eight one so five and one.
Wandy Peralta will start in LA for the Padres tonight.
That's one of the late games ten pm Eastern time.
The Padres winners of five straight at the Dodgers, who've
lost four in a row. In fact, the Dodger lead
in the division on about July fourth was nine games
Since then, the Dodgers have a record of twelve and
(39:59):
twenty one one, and the Padres are now in first
in the NL West, a game ahead of la. This
is the latest in a season the Padres have been
in first since twenty ten. As for the other news,
yes from the University of Michigan NCAA saying Michigan gets
a series of fines that could eclipse thirty million dollars,
but no punitive penalties for the advanced scouting case, no
(40:22):
postseason ban, no vacating of victories, no nothing. And Sebastian
Muno's cards of fifty nine at the Live Golf event
in Indianapolis today already the third sub sixty round and
the brief history of Live Golf, and his round included
a double bogie today.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Back to you all right, Steve, thank you appreciate it.
It's the couple.
Speaker 1 (40:41):
He's Rob.
Speaker 7 (40:41):
I'm Kevin on eight Funky Flashback Friday, and we are
joined now by our guests Joshua Perry, Big ten College
Countdown on NBC Sports and Peacock College Football Playoff National
Champion with some school down south from Anauburt Michigan, oh
I mean Ohio State I'm sorry, my bad.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
Joshua, what's up?
Speaker 10 (40:59):
Man?
Speaker 1 (40:59):
What's up?
Speaker 10 (41:00):
How are we doing? As Doing'd be back with you guys.
Speaker 7 (41:03):
Appreciate your time, no doubt, you know, you know sometimes
my ann arbor comes out. I apologize my bad. Let's
get into it. You just heard what Steve was saying,
and Rob and I just started our show with obviously
the penalties that have come down, mainly just really find
for Michigan thirty million dollars. First, I want to let
me let me go back to the origin of this,
(41:24):
the sign stealing. If you watched the doc allegedly by
the Stallions that he says everybody it was a whole
ring of schools and people were hitting them up and
doing it. And I'm trying to find out the way
he was doing it so successfully and a bunch of
people are part of it. A do you think you
personally think it was that big of a deal and
also how prevalent do.
Speaker 3 (41:42):
You think it is?
Speaker 10 (41:45):
I think it's a big deal when you go to
those lengths. I mean he had a fund with the KGV,
right like, he had a ring of people he was
setting on campus. He had an instructional manual to get
footage and what to tell people if they were asking
why they were reporting the sidelines, like coordinated where they
wanted to sit in the whole deal, right, So, like
(42:05):
that part of it is so far out of bounds.
I've not heard anything quite like it. There's the other
part where people are hitting them up, Hey, how are
you so good at this? That happens every Sunday. There's
analysts from all the schools all each other up, Hey,
you played such and such last week? We got them
this week.
Speaker 1 (42:21):
Do you have.
Speaker 10 (42:21):
Anything on their signals?
Speaker 2 (42:23):
Right?
Speaker 10 (42:23):
So, like there is this great area of what science
feeling is and what's gamemanship and what's not. And like
you can make the argument that even the calling up
the analysts from the week before and asking them maybe
crosses the line of gamesmanship. What's so far out of
bounds is what Connor Stallion's coordinated. And I think that's
(42:44):
why this is so interesting to me. And it's funny.
We'll talk about the penalties here in the set. If
you only heard the penalties, the financial penalties are insane,
But outside of that, it's like you probably didn't think
it's that bad. But when you get into the NCAA
report there weren't a great things to say about what
happened there, and it's really intriguing how you reconcile those
(43:04):
two things.
Speaker 1 (43:05):
The only way I would feel good about this is
if they had Jim harbaughn handcuffs today at Chargers Camp.
Speaker 3 (43:11):
That's what they should. Okay, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Joshua, just just for just for a photo op, can
we do? Can we do a purp walk with Harball?
I mean he gets to skate. Everybody else of course
winds up holding the bag. He finally got to win
the championship he was trying to do, and now it
has think on it. I feel bad about the whole thing.
(43:34):
I don't care when they stopped it or whatever. They
cheated to get their situation there, and people should, you know,
not should look down at Michigan because they didn't do it.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
The right way.
Speaker 10 (43:46):
I think there is this part of me that really
wants people to look into some of the texts at
the NCAA put out in this report. One of the
quotes was harboring a program that was largely dismissive of
rules from there was little if any emphasis on following
the rules right Like that is that's damning about their
whole approach in those last few years of his tenure
(44:09):
to that program. They have the recruiting violations, the COVID
era ones, they had other things going on there. They
had a staffer who was also like moonlighting, is an
Internet hacker, and then they have this counter stallions. Think happened.
This wasn't a lot of oversight there, And I get
it right, Like, I've been a champion before. I know
what that feels like, and I know what I would
do to try to get back there if I was
(44:31):
still playing the game. But there's obviously this part of
you that says, you just got to go out there
and compete, and you got to do it the right way.
So the way that Harbaugh has talked about is obviously
not great. Counter stallions and things the NCAA had to
say about and make them seem like a total nut
job there. But there is this other part of me, though,
as a competitor, that I want people to understand how
(44:55):
serious this is. But there's also the player side of it,
where I don't think any of those guys really knew
what was going on, and so I'm struggle to treat
it discredit that season because guys still had to go
out there.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
No, I.
Speaker 1 (45:10):
Disagree. I disagree with that because they're put in position
to be able to make those plays and because you've
cheated and even though they didn't know. It's just like
the Tom Brady where he's the quarterback and the Patriots
stole the defensive signals to the other team. Oh that wow,
that's open. Okay, Wow, that's open. How come that's open?
(45:33):
How come they know that? Because they had the signals
And even though Tom Brady might have been playing and
just doing what they told them, there still was a
degree of cheating. And I'm not saying the players cheated,
but they cheated to get them in the position to
where they could have success. And that's why you can
discredit them winning a championship, no doubt.
Speaker 10 (45:53):
Let me let me rephrase them that. Don't want to
dispreadit the effort of the players that were on the field.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
I think that's so okay, that's fair, that's fair.
Speaker 10 (46:03):
I want to keep out of You know, it's off
limits for me because I know those guys person from
covering them, I know how hard they work. But to
your point, like there's one's going to be a stinking
a team on this the championship that they won. Like
people are gonna look back and they're gonna associate the
championship season that Michigan had with Conner Sallions. Those two
things can't be separated. But I don't want the players
(46:24):
have to go unrecognized because of that, which is a
tough thing to try to reconcile.
Speaker 7 (46:29):
That's where that's where we'll disagree. I think people are
gonna absolutely forget about it. I think they're just going
to talk about that team as winners, and I think
no one's really going to care, especially when.
Speaker 1 (46:38):
It comes it wasn't sounds like a Michigan home.
Speaker 7 (46:41):
I can tell you that in all sports, I'll tell
you that it just just about no one dozen people
they've did.
Speaker 1 (46:46):
The Astros had a cheeny scandal, and even though they
won a championship, there were still people who don't like
the astec.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
And we brought it up. There are.
Speaker 7 (46:56):
There are some people who won't care, and there are
people who because they're banging on something we could hear
when you're talking about filming something a game that anybody
could go to, I think people just aren't gonna remember
it enough.
Speaker 3 (47:05):
Whereas the astros people, where.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Were they doing it? My pointing, clearly it works if
it's irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (47:13):
I didn't irrelevant I'm saying, And the factor of people caring,
I don't think people can not to disagree.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Cheating is not what you paid for.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
That's not I want to see if you find out.
Speaker 1 (47:24):
It's if when you cheat, and when you're doing this, Joshua,
where you might I might as well be pro wrestling,
all right.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
If it's gonna be fake, that's not what people want.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
They want to believe that there's some competition going on
and that people are on equal footing. If I knew
that they were lobbing the ball of Barry Bonds so
you could get the home run record, it doesn't feel
as good. It doesn't feel the same to me. If
I find out later and.
Speaker 7 (47:47):
If they were proving the ball to them, the difference
is people are gonna be with it.
Speaker 3 (47:50):
This is okay.
Speaker 7 (47:51):
They're filling the game that was happening anyway. They'll be right.
The average person. I'm not talking about someone to Joshua's point,
who went all the way reading from bottom of the
end and text to text in all of it. The
average person, well, how they filmed some games probably whatever,
let's move on.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I think that's just the way it is right now
in society.
Speaker 7 (48:07):
Real quick, before we get you out there, Joshua An,
who's winning the Big Ten?
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Since you're covering that, is it? Penn State's you're to
sneak in there?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Is it? Ohio States to Well?
Speaker 7 (48:17):
I know they you know, they didn't win it the
Big Ting obviously, but they also win the Natty.
Speaker 3 (48:22):
So what do you expect from the Big Ten?
Speaker 10 (48:24):
You know, it's an interesting question, right because I did
this thing last year where it's like, Okay, can Ryan
Day do it?
Speaker 6 (48:30):
Right?
Speaker 10 (48:30):
Like, I hadn't really seen him do it since the
early part of his tenure, and it became this, well
Ryan Day can't do it, and all of a sudden
he made everybody look goofy win the National Championship. I
know we're talking about the Big Ten race here, But
the moral of that story is I'm going to start
the season off by not saying that James Franklin can't
do it. I'm just gonna say that we haven't really
seen him do it yet. That team that he has
(48:52):
very veteran, veteran quarterback, which a lot of teams in
the Big Ten top contenders certainly don't have. They're gonna
be great in the running back room. That offensive line
is going to be deep. Their defensive line is going
to be really good. I like what they have in
the secondary. They like both of their coordinators. I'm saying
Penn State is going to win it Wellhao State is
going to be in the mix of challenge. But they
have so many new faces, very talented. But you got
(49:14):
to say about all the guys that they had last
year that really stepped up in that playoff run, many
of them are gone. The other two teams that are
really intriguing to me. Illinois is the one that everybody
talks about now. They're not even really a dark horse anymore.
They're super veteran and Brett belm as a coach who
is very used to winning with less in the Big Ten.
He's done that before. So can it recreate some of
(49:36):
that magic there at Illinois? Not quite sure yet. Men
Orgon right, the team that's tighthly capitalized. They do a
great job in the portal. They've got the great young coach.
They're a really talented team. But they've got a quarterback
who played as a freshman Dante Moore at UCLA decided
to transfer and sit down for a year. Is he
going to be that guy? Well, they have the wide
receiver production. He had a huge injury at that position.
(49:58):
I think it's a four team rate, says I look
at it in the preseason. But I'm gonna go ahead
and take ten Saints and say that James Franklin can
get a dust.
Speaker 1 (50:05):
I would rather take Franklin from the Peanuts at this
point than James Franklin.
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Oh, I thought you were gonna say Franklin from Snowfall.
I didn't know where he was going. I'm just saying, Joshua,
thank you. Joshua appreciates Joshua. And there it lies.
Speaker 7 (50:18):
I were the odd couple. You said the Peanuts, and
I'm over here talking about Snowfall. Right there is the
divide right there in the odd couple. All right, Joshua Perry,
go give a follow, mister Joshua Perry on X coming
up Sheckl City.
Speaker 3 (50:30):
See how Rod Ferreed.
Speaker 7 (50:31):
Try to take a sneak peak se in his face.
All Right, you and PEPSI are a coke guy, don't matter.
I see you drinking the Diapepsy, No it's dark coke.
Speaker 3 (50:39):
But you guess what here in New York? Get sow
much it cost from the machine?
Speaker 1 (50:43):
Alex?
Speaker 3 (50:43):
How much does it cost there at the in l
A dollar dollar or something?
Speaker 1 (50:49):
Dollar ten?
Speaker 3 (50:51):
Get so much you cost for for a can here
in New York? A sense five cents? That would have
been a great teeth outside.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
You blew it twenty five cents. I heeart the same company.
Speaker 3 (51:04):
At that point in New York, and at that point, honestly,
I'm mad at them.
Speaker 1 (51:08):
Just give it to you, you know what, at that point,
just take it that you know what, I'm trying to
get a twenty four pack to put in my suitcase
to take Rob You're.
Speaker 3 (51:17):
Willing to sacrifice clothes to get those sodas up in there?
All right?
Speaker 1 (51:20):
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