September 2, 2025 • 31 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why they were happy to see North Carolina get bludgeoned in Bill Belichick’s debut as their head football coach, explain why this trade to Green Bay should be enough to encourage Micah Parsons to cut back on the podcasting, and take Joe Montana to task for leaving Patrick Mahomes and Lamar Jackson off his list of NFL quarterbacks he’d start a franchise with.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Couple last night? What did I said? I wanted to
see them get Joe?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You got what you asked for?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Did not?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I say?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I said I wanted them to get Molly mollywopped, and.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
That's what happened, Rob g What happened?
Speaker 6 (00:39):
To say they got Mollywop would be an understatement, all right.
Bill Belichick, in his coaching debut for UNC suffered the
second biggest regular season loss of his head coaching career.
And we all know that Bill Belichick has been coaching
since Moby Dick was a good That's right.
Speaker 7 (00:56):
I thought you about to say nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I was gonna say say since Luisiana purchase right was
in escrow.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
So got just to give you context as to how
bad it was not just for Bill, well for North
Carolina as a whole again. Thirty four point lost, second
largest regular season loss of Belichick's head coaching career. The
forty eight points they gave up the most Belichick has
ever allowed in his head coaching career. For reference, he's
coached four hundred and sixty eight regular season games and
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he's only even trailed by thirty four plus points, which
was the end result four times in five hundred and
eleven total games as a head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And as if that wasn't bad enough.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
North Carolina, which as we know, is not what you
would call a football factory. Even with that said, historically
bad night for the Heels. Okay, here we go. North
Carolina allowed the most points in his season opener last night,
forty one in their program's history. The next closest was
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in two thousand and one. They also lost by their
greatest margin in any game since two thoy and eighteen.
And here's the last one for all you, Bill Belichick.
Truther Chapel, Bill mac Brown, his predecessor, had never lost
the game by that margin during his second stin in
North Carolina, and of course he was asked unceremoniously in
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favor of.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Them, I thought I saw somewhere where they gave up
seventy three points in the game. Is that not true
with mac.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Brown in his first this was his second.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, all right, I was just gonna say I thought
I read that somewhere. I just want to make sure
so all around awful, and I came away with one
thing and one thing only.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm rooting.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Openly rooting for Bill Belichick to fail at North Carolina.
And let me tell you why why. I have nothing
personal against Bill Belichick. I don't know the guy. He's
never done anything to me wrong. I know people always say, oh.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
What did you sleep with your wife?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Why are you so antiis?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Or that no cut hoodies? That's okay problem, miss.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, I don't know the man personally. It ain't about
the cheating that he did in New England. That ain't
the reason.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It's the stuff at North Carolina that I'm rooting against.
You know what I'm rooting against.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Nepotism? Cronyism. Look at his look at his staff, friends, family, kids,
all this stuff. I'm rooting against nepotism. I'm rooting against
his girlfriend being in the huddle or being on the field.
Bill Belichick is seventy three years old. I don't remember
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ever seeing his wife on the sidelines run a game.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Have you ever seen her?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
She was Casper the ghosts if she was out there,
because I never saw her. And this girlfriend is up
robbed sasheting up and down. Bill is like, okay, he
was there with one coach. Did you see the coach
turn away? Because you know, maybe she's saying something. He
turned away because he was like, maybe I shouldn't hear.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Ray.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You're on a football field, you're a coach, this is
his girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
What are you turning away from?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The conversation with Bill Belichick there in the center.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Of the field.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And and the other part is them trying to make
money off the Hulu you know documentary And I'm against
all of that. Like coach football, that stuff should come,
and it comes if you were to turn his program around,
but not the other stuff. And then the last thing
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they had to goll the audacity to go get a
trademark for gold Digger.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They should have got a.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Trademark for Golden Corral because that's where she would be
working if it wasn't for Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
How about that? So I'm against all of that.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm on the.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Record, I want North Carolina to lose every game that
Bill Belichick is involved in because Rob Parker is anti nepotism,
anti your girlfriend running the football team when she has
no business being out there, anti making money and doing
all this other stuff when you haven't done Jack there
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with the Hulu and her on social media. Look at that,
how well we're doing it our documentary and all this.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm against it. All this is so unlike.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was never a Bill Belichick guy from the cheating scandal.
You say this, I'm not standing for, and I'm telling
you right now, I'm openly hoping that this winds up
being a total disaster for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Well, let me tell you something. We were sitting here yesterday.
We talked about Chapel Hill.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Bill.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
It looked Mark like kill Bill. To me, it was
a massacre. It was a beatdown. It was terrible, it
was embarrassing. And I believe it's only a bit of
what's to come.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Now.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I don't think every single game will be such a
widespread in the score like this. But you elaborate, You
said so many things. I'm just gonna laborate on a
few things. The reason why this isn't gonna work is
because multiple reasons. One the catch twenty two of it all.
He needs to win fast in order for players to go,
oh shoot, look what he's doing, and maybe he can
usher in an NFL factory line and get guys to
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the league. But in order to win fast, you gotta
have players. But you gotta get players when you win,
and you know what, that takes time, and you know what,
he don't have time.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So it's not about to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You think anybody who plays high school football watched that
game last night?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I said, oh yeah, I want to go to North Camp.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
If that was a kid who was like, yo, North Carolina,
Bill Bell, he's got six Super Bowl ring. They just
ripped up their letter and intent to go play. It
just got ripped. Let me tell you it's in a
bunch of shutters right now. The intent to play for Unz,
they might as well call it unk. I'm not playing
for the unk. I'm not playing for him right now. Now,
let me continue on why this isn't gonna work. What
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I'm also tripping on is you can't teach all old
dog new tricks. At least that's what I thought they
lied to me because this old dog told me no
distractions locked in. We're on the Cincinnati all this. Now
I see him as on book tours, He's got it
shows with his girl. He's arguing in the Robert Kraft
like he had at seventy some year old, arguing with
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an eighty something year old.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
He's doing this, He's doing it.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I've seen him more in the last year with interviews
than I've seen him in twenty something years, popping on
everybody's podcast, interviews and shows, which is fine if that's
what he was gonna do, which might have been al
right at TV doing that a little different, get a
different spin of different side of Bill. Now we got
his girlfriend. We never, like you said, we never really
saw wives or anybody. Now she's popping up everywhere we
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saw a wife or a girlfriend. Absolutely, And then this
was also what was bad about the kill Bill massacre.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
If there was nothing else you could hang your hat
on with him.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
It was defense like that that has been in Staple.
It was with the Staple, with the Giants when henew
Bill Parcels, when they won those six Super Bowls. Look
at their defense was top five every year. Absolutely, and
That's one of the things that Tom Brady had in
his favor was dang it, if nothing else is working,
I know, I got a great defense and a great
special team.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
The defense was trash.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
So if they were out there and they lost, you know, okay,
twenty to three, you all right, we're working on offense.
It takes time, okay, but the defense solid held on
only twenty you know, that's not bad. You can't get
beat down like that in all fasts of the game.
And we were talking about this yesterday. They showed the
clock ticking. They said they had had a first down
and in since eighteen eight seventeen PM or whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It went two hour, two hours of a regular time,
not football time, two hours.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
So that that was the bat to me. You at
least expect a showing in some facet like man, all right, well, shoot, defensively,
they gonna be a problem. You know, they gotta work
on and get the quarterback. He's a transfer.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
It wasn't nothing to hain't get on. It wasn't a
hat hook in sight. Couldn't hang my hat on nothing.
He made MJ fadeaway, MJ. You know how he let
a fader he did it again. He phased, just left
and I'm gonna get on the boto here Bill, I'm
gonna get some sleep. And they don't go to a
cigar lounge in the middle of now, you know you
love the cigar lounge.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No, that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
After that, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
LT left up crazy. What we saw LT at the
Super Bowl. Don't have him come sack you. And where
we're about to be in the Bay Area this year
coming up Super Bowl? What are you about to say
about LT.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
After that performance?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You might go to rehab.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm just saying, see football rehab.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Make it six years now.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
I gotta jump in the middle between him and LT.
He gonna treat me like any give us.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I said football rehab that he don't want to watch
any bad for it.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
You're gonna be in physical rehab that work, working on
your back, stretching you out.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
No, man, listen. The only thing I'll disagree with you on.
You know me.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
We've argued about this a million times. I don't mind nepotism. Ah,
I do, I know, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I'm gonna get my cousin, my nephew to do do
your show, do your job.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Who's sitting next to me right now? Who's sitting next
to me right now? Who's sitting next to me right now?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That's not nepotism, that's my robb Gi Dylan.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
What's the dudey shout out to Dylan watch the countdown
before next thing? I know he caused me. He's like, yeah,
remember Dylan, Yeah, yeah, I was just saying, man, maybe
you know what I'm saying. We're gonna bring them on.
He gonna be like, you know what I'm saying that?
And Dylan gonna have a job here, Robzi how many
people work were used to be around Rob? Not got
a job here? Dag I did show him two times
last week and rot and weise. What's you got to
(10:22):
say to that? I'm not related to any of those people,
don't know.
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Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah, this is something that's been building, you know, even
before the trade, but since the trade is We talked
about it when you were out robbed. Me and Kelvin
were talking and we agreed that once this trade was official,
the Micah Parsons hit pieces, We're gonna be glorious.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's they were all coming.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
It's like when the Lakers, anything happened with them, there's
always a hit piece in the chamber for the athletic
or ESPN. Well, the Dallas Cowboys like the Lakers of
the NFL. So we knew this was all coming. It
started last week when the Forward Star Telegram reported and
Jerry Jones confirmed that the decision to move off of
Michael Parsons was quote unanimous both in terms of the
front office, the coaching staff, and several player leaders as
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they called them, all agreed that, hey, if you don't
want to be here, get him out of here.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And that's always something we talked about it before. Don't
be asking for trade if you ain't serious about it,
you put that out there, you know what I mean,
Like there's a chance people say, especially oh you don't,
you just can't do that? Go ahead, sure.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
And then the next day Albert Brier, friend of the
show MMQB, reported in his column that more specifically, the
Micah Parsons podcast had rubbed a lot of people the
wrong way, including but not limited to quarterback Dak Prescott.
You recall he did that top ten list and then
left that out of it was a big talking point. Well,
today ESPN published a full length piece. They dispatched four
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different NFL writers for this, so let's let you know
they're heavily invested in this story. And in the report
they discuss how Michael Parson's behavior, especially during training camp
here towards the end right not wearing his practice jersey,
he came to practice without shoes on.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
He's eating notches in the locker room. He's laying down
at the trainer's table.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
They're dead laying down.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Seriously, that was when you crossed the line, like you're
making a mockery of the game.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That it rubbed everybody the wrong way, coaches, players included,
with one team source saying that his energy in and
around the team was quote deflating.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
So I said this last week, when you're Michael Parsons,
even if you fell scorn, even if you felt like
Jerry had, you know, maybe ruined the relationship that you
once had with him, you can't out Jerry.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Jerry.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Jerry's the owner. Jerry's been doing this for thirty plus years.
Jerry's done stuff. The fans hate it. Guess what they do.
They go out and buy tickets and buy jerseys and
talk about the Cowboys and do it and throw and
throw remote at their TVs and still watch the Cowboys.
Meaning they ain't going nowhere with Jerry. That's their team.
They're all a part of Cowboy Nation. How about them Cowboys?
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But Micah, what you can do is by acting like
a brat and by doing all that and pouting, and
I understand you might have felt like you were, you know,
being disrespected. I understand that that's gonna fall on you.
The systems always fall on the lower man, so it's
gonna fall on the player instead of the owner. And
then the fans are gonna look at you, and your
other teammates are gonna look at you. Now we have reports.
We talked about it last week. You were saying, Robb
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g with this stuff was gonna come out where teammates
you're gonna start already question his leadership. And one of
the continual things that came up is the podcast. And
Rob and I have talked about it for a whole
year essentially that we've been doing this show together. Nobody's
saying you can't do a pod. My thought was, do
a pot on something else, you like, do a pot
on the NBA, do a pot on parenting, do a
pot on on Penn Stak football where you're on dogs
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going a restaurant exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I'm signed up for that.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Put me on like dogs looking peaches, Yes, you and
the peaches, but let me continue peaches.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So my whole thing is this is gonna look.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Bad on you because you're pouting, You're throwing a temper
tantrum and now everybody's viewing you on this and also
going back to the podcast, this needs to be an opportunity,
Rob G. Because I believe there are two sides, especially
when a breakup. Right, this is what Jerry Jones and
the Cowboys gonna say, this is Mike and his agent
are gonna say. Ultimately, there's a third side, which is
the truth. Now that you're a packer, what I need
from you is to go in there and focus. What
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I need for you is to refine your leadership because
it's okay to reassess in the regroup. Right, some of
what they if everybody's calling you crazy, Rob, what they
what it might be that you're crazy, meaning if a
lot of people are questioning leadership. A lot of people
didn't like this. A lot of your own teammates went
to coaches said, man, we don't know. This guy's getting
out of control, especially with the podcast putting accountability on
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everybody else but him.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
These guys suck, the coaches suck. We gotta do that.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Now he has an opportunity to resay, and to me,
I look at this as don't go there doing the same,
being the same because a lot of people question you
when you change.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Oh you done went to Green Bay. Now you change?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
You let Jerry Jones, Punky, now you change. No, I'm
refining my leadership. I'm changing who I am a bit.
I'm tweaking how I go about my business. And one
of the things I would advise them is the same
thing we've talked about is what the podcast. Make it
a thing of the podcast. Put it in your past.
Paul pot Istead A podcast pod can't Okay, I can't
do it anymore?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Podcast away? Put it away.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
And the reason I say that is because nothing good
comes out of it, and you don't have to do it.
And now you don't want to create an atmosphere in
a new place where they has stability.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You're the new guy where you start to ruffle feather.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Right, let me ask you this. Yes, you're Green Bay. Okay,
do you say.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Please?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
No podcast?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I believe that as as the new organization. Hey, Michael,
we love you, we just gave you this money, all this.
We just wanted to be focused during the football season. Please.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I don't think they don't they do that because I
don't why I think you said that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Total.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I think they do overt suggestion, overt jokes. Oh see
all right, Michael, don't come in here. You're putting me
on your pod like a you're Matt Lafloor like ha ha,
we weak mother love it.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Don't put me on there.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But my thing is why why should you be afraid
to tell somebody who you're employed, who you want their
full focus to be, and say, here in Green Bay, Michaeh,
nobody has a podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
This is not I They're not directed at you.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Here in Green Bay, we want football to be that
focus for the next six months. And this is what
we're all.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Is the era of player empowerment and also just employ
ye empowerment.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And there are things that used to be that you
didn't do that.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Maybe you didn't post on your social media, maybe it
was too risque. And now employer can't come to you
nobody because they're gonna be like, well, I can't wear that.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I can't Who are you are you putting me in?
Speaker 7 (17:27):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You can, Okay, good luck in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But my only problem is the issue in Dallas wasn't
you weren't defensive player of the Year, Your defense wasn't
ranked number one. They weren't giving up forty pieces you know,
in games that you played in and all that, and
you go on your podcast saying.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You did your je I did my job.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't know what you want me to do kind
of thing, which is basically implying that everybody else didn't
do their job. I'm just saying, if I'm Matt Lafleur,
I have that conversation. Maybe they did before they even
got there to say we really want you, ay, and
we've shown them. We gave up two first round picks,
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a pro all the money, Pro Bowl and all the money.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Okay, but Buck thirty six guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I think you want to have that conversation. I think
you're scared to force him, like if you don't do this, No,
I don't want to like, but I absolutely believe you
suggest you you imply, and I think you hopeing her
David will get his agent. I think if you're his agent,
you say, hey, man, you know part of this is
always marketing, brand and and focusing. Let's use this as
a chance to rebrand what Micah can be. Let's use
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this as a chance to change the perception of you.
Let's go in here be locked in laser focus and
now we can you know, kind of bring that to
the new Micah in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And let's not forget.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The Athletic reported in February that the Jets told Aaron
Rodgers that he wouldn't be welcome back if with the
team if he continued to do McAfee show.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Like they just were like, we don't want this.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
The difference though, No, I'm just saying like, like, so,
so a team did say it and end up wind
up moving, you know on anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That's why I think it's different. It's easy. You almost
want to do that, so go screw it.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'm out, yes, but he's but still a request was made,
you know what I mean, not that it was an issue,
and and and and I understand like you're not trying
to dictate everything, but you're trying to be all on
the same page.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It's only now, Okay, you.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Had the thing with Dak Now are you going to
be doing stuff about Jordan love and start calling him
Jordan like.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Or I like him, but I don't love him.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
If a player leaves, do you talk about him like
you did DeMarcus Lawrence? Remember, you know what I saying
that who was a who was a big time pleasence
in that locker room, and they got into it just
because he and it just yes. So I'm hoping he
uses this as a time to retool, to focus in,
lock in it, because listen, I was telling rog G
this earlier. Kobe Bryant the last not the last last
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when he was be down and broken, right, but those
that years when making the championship runs and competing three
back to back to back, going to the finals, winning
two out of three that run, he had to refine
himself as a leader. Socking Samaki Walker on the plane,
wasn't it, yelling at everybody all the time, wasn't it?
He had to get some better talent, for sure, But
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he also had to eat these are his own words.
He had to find ways to lead better. We read
or he Phil Jackson book. Between Kobe MJ. I had
to teach them and work with them on leadership. And
my whole point is this is that phrase, he's twenty six,
You've already been all pro, You've been all that. How
about now we lock in and folks to be that
guy the next six year, that kind of leader, that
being that guy in the locker room because you don't
(20:38):
want that to be your thing. You're you're a bad
guy in the locker room. You don't want that to
carry along with you.
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Speaker 7 (20:56):
Joe Montana is there's three guys that if you say
are the goat, I'm not like, I'm never gonna be
mad at Joe Montana, never gonna be mad at Tom Brady,
And I think John Elway if you put him in
the goat.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Now, just the ability hold that dog because you might
be mad at Joe Montana today.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Hold on Joe about to get this smoke.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Because Joe Montana was on the Pat McAfee show Bruce
Arians feeling he's gonna have a regular spot apparently with them,
and here's the exchange they asked Joe Montana, Hey, Joe,
if you're building a NFL franchise, got to pick your quarterback.
And you can't pick Brock Perdy because you know he's
a Niner through and through. So you win Brock Purty first.
You got three quarterback choices. Give us your top three.
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Here's the exchange.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
If you were a general manager head coach today, pick
the top three quarterbacks you want to start your franchise with.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
And why like this and not Rock Perdy. You can't
take Brock Boom. Okay, Brock is your number one pick.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yep. So you love Brock Perdy, you love Brock Perdy.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I'm taking I'm taking the guy in Buffalo, Okay, Josh Allen, Josh,
and the guy that surprised me that I thought would
obviously Joe Burrows, another guy I like a lot, and and.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
Believe it or not, I like the guy in with
the Chargers just uh yeah. I think they just kind
of they've kind of kind of gone by the wayside there,
but uh, you know, I just I just like the
way they all those three guys are.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Uh you are right over there, could you no?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, you smoke it over there. And let me tell
you this. I think Joe Montana has to good. I've
always said that, and I have mad respect for him.
And when he played and you know how the game was,
how how many time you got beat up against the
Giants defense like it was a different game, and he
was incredible.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
He really was.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Eleven touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And four super bowls. He was a standard.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Okay, but this list and his list to me, once
you put Justin Herbert on there, I can't listen to it.
I really got it. I got an issue, and I
get it. He checks all the boxes. He's six foot
three or four, he's got a buck right six five,
got got a big arm all night, looks like a
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quarterback his bill.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I get all that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He just hadn't done anything. I'm sorry to warrant being
on that list. I just cannot Lamar won a couple
of MVPs.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Wow, shocking.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, you want to say that from the traditional but
your issue, and I want you to go first.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know my issue is I do know yo, nobody issue.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But you have an issue with cool Joe, don't you.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
I do have a cool super cool Joe. He cannot
be any cooler. And I've been around him, you know,
just covering super Bowls. Great dude, for sure, and arguably
the go I'm not mad at that, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
However, this ain't the goat list. Go now. Rob g
Is stopped short of saying a few things.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
He went on to say they go who ho ho,
and somebody made talking about Patrick Mahons and he said,
I think I would have had him if he was much,
if he was younger, although they're not getting hit as
much today, so he probably played forever. So yeah, I
guess maybe I should have had it patting there, But
he was cushing in his age because he's Patrick Mahomes
and difference it will turn thirty this month, okay, but
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the difference in age is Rob G Right, Yeah, he's
a years older than this Josh all year, not even
a full year. Justin Herbert is twenty seven and Joe
Burrow will be twenty nine December.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
So he's a year older. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm not doune cooking Joe.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
We got Joe on the plate, forgot Joe on the
menu for They let me saw t Joe real quick.
Now I got a list for you, my friend Rob Parker,
Rob G who I'm beef with right now. I'm trash
talking Tuesday at the end of the show. You know
how many guys won super Bowls after age of thirty
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clock this. Tom Brady won six Super Bowls after the
age of thirty six. Peyton Manny won one, Aaron Rodgers
one one at thirty one, Russell Wilson was thirty, Joe
Montana won two after thirty Did he forget? John l
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Way won two at thirty seven and thirty eight? I
mean the list goes on Drew Brees thirty one. So
my point is you absolutely and your favorite. Eli Manning
got won at thirty one. So what does he mean
he's little ols? I ain't rolling with Patrick mahomes. The
other guys on the list haven't done anything. Josh Allen,
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who is immensely talented, but he hadn't done anything.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Justin Herbert, we don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
No, that that's the guy who has not really done anything.
I just can't get over. Like he makes everybody's.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
List, and then to leave Lamar off for Justin Herbert.
I understand Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert kind of fit
the traditional nineteen eighties quarterback that he's looking for that
plays in a you know, straight out of Central casting.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
I'm putting the quarterback in the movie.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
You'd put Joe Burrow, or you would put Justin but Lamar.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Patrick Mahon, he watched Lamar last year.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
It's insane. What Lamar has done for the last three
four years.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
What do you have forty one touchdowns before me started? Man, Yes, Oh,
absolutely ridiculous. Those two should have been on the list.
Now at last point, drop, I know there's kind of
the four. The big four right is Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,
Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. So somebody was gonna get left
off when you ask him three. But to me, leaving
off Patrick and Lamar was crazy. Joe respectfully, Joe.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Now, Joe, I'm gonna agree with Joe on one thing.
I can see why he left off Patrick Mahomes, and
it has nothing to do with age. If you just
want to be honest and where these quarterbacks are going.
The other guys are ascending and Patrick Homes is descending.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Okay, I'm gonna let you go. I'm just saying, be honest.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
With the stats and the numbers, it's not a it's
not a career Lifetime Achievement award he's talking about right
now if you're looking at it. And my argument all
the time is that most people aren't honest enough to
tell you that Patrick Mahomes is not the same quarterback.
The numbers beared out the idea last year that in
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games that he played last year, the Chiefs were fifteen
and one, fifteen.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And one.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
In a quarterback league and a guy who people are
always saying when they do the polls, he's the number
one quarterback they and yet he didn't get one MVP
vote first place vote last year, not one that speaks
volumes of the quarterback league and against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
And if you look just an honest look, I'm not
talking about his career.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
He's in the Hall of Famer already, so I'm not
one of these guys I'm trying to poop poo it
and discount his start to his career. But the last
two years, this is not the Patrick Mahomes that started
the league. You know that when he started the league
that electrified and people looked at it. This is a
dink dunk, non descript five yards of past, like it's
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somebody we don't even recognize. And yes, they keep winning
and they've gotten the Super Bowls, and I get all that,
but it ain't on the backs of Patrick Mahomes as
it used to be. He was must see TV. That
team was incredible.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Here's what I don't agree with you at what I
don't agree is it's the same thing. Why to me,
when we talk a lot of times you're talking basketball.
One of the things I liked about, you know, like
Luca with the Mavericks for those you know, handful of years.
What I like about Lebron I like guys that when
the team is great, cool, we got a great chance
to do some great things. When the team ain't that great,
we still got a chance to do some great things.
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And to me, that's what I like about Patrick Mahomes.
When the team is great, were putting up thirty forty
a game, great when the team was barely scoring you know,
twenty dage we're gonna go fifteen to two and fifteen
and one. It might've been sixteen and one if he
played that last game. How to me, I can't knock
you for that. I give you more credit. When you
got guys coming in and out, you got a bunch
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of injuries. You know, you got a good defense, so
you know how to lean on them. You're not force
it up. To me, that's more of a compliment that
I can play in multiple ways, because we've seen where
guys can only play one way. And if you can
stop that one way, they're hurt, and to me, I
like to see that. Patrick mahonmes guys in and out.
I'm not gonna be able to make all the plays,
but dangn when I need to make a play, Rob
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g One of my favorite stats last year was what
it was third down conversion for first downs. You know
who was number one, Patrick Mahoons at fifty three percent.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Okay, but if you see that stat in people who
vote for the halt for the MVP because he.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Wasn't an MVP caliber player at all. Lamar Jackson should
have been MVP. We both agreed, But I told you
Josh Sallow was gonna win it because of fatigue. You
don't want to hear me. Josh Allen won because of fatigue.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Rob Parker, what else is it?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Because it's because they're friendly to get the players who
were friendly with Joe Burrow, Dan Orlowski?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
What like?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
This was his mission?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I'm dead serious. It was about friendship and I'm being buddies.
How did you change your vote? He should have been
First Team All.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Pro too, because people, well people are tired of them.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
But doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Those two had MVP and even Joe Burrow had an
MVP candidate season. So my point is he doesn't have
to be MVP to still be the best. Tom Brady
has what two MVPs I believe in his career if
I'm not or two off pros? I think it is
or something like that, something where you would think he'd
have more considering how great he is, but he doesn't.
But yet he's still the goat. Joe Montana can argument
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say he's a god. I'm not mad at that at all.
So Patrick Mahomes didn't have to be the MVP to
still be the best?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
All right?
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine off farm make the need
to make Joe Montana's list for sure? Come on, Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Was Joe wrong in leaving Patrick Mahomes off his list?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Or was he right?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
And I say right, I would put Lamar should have
been on the list rather than Justin Herbert and not
Patrick Mahomes. He has had two back to back down
years and I'm just trying to about those numbers, like, look
at the numbers. I'm not hating on him or trying
to discredit his career. Just be honest and fair and
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look at the numbers. Was Joe Montana wrong leaving Patrick
Mahomes off the list or was he right?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
One game?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
To save your life, Ron, you're taking Josh Allen, Lamar
Jacks or Joe Burrainy over him.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That's not what his comments. Yes or no. I'm taking
yes and no.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Tak that's a black quarterback, Rober you heard what I said.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That's your one. Okay, that's your one.
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the Best of the Odd.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
Couple last night? What did I said? I wanted to
see them get Joe?
Speaker 4 (00:30):
You got what you asked for?
Speaker 5 (00:31):
Did not?
Speaker 4 (00:31):
I say?
Speaker 1 (00:32):
I said I wanted them to get Molly mollywopped, and.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
That's what happened, Rob g What happened?
Speaker 6 (00:39):
To say they got Mollywop would be an understatement, all right.
Bill Belichick, in his coaching debut for UNC suffered the
second biggest regular season loss of his head coaching career.
And we all know that Bill Belichick has been coaching
since Moby Dick was a good That's right.
Speaker 7 (00:56):
I thought you about to say nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I was gonna say say since Luisiana purchase right was
in escrow.
Speaker 6 (01:04):
So got just to give you context as to how
bad it was not just for Bill, well for North
Carolina as a whole again. Thirty four point lost, second
largest regular season loss of Belichick's head coaching career. The
forty eight points they gave up the most Belichick has
ever allowed in his head coaching career. For reference, he's
coached four hundred and sixty eight regular season games and
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he's only even trailed by thirty four plus points, which
was the end result four times in five hundred and
eleven total games as a head coach.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And as if that wasn't bad enough.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
North Carolina, which as we know, is not what you
would call a football factory. Even with that said, historically
bad night for the Heels. Okay, here we go. North
Carolina allowed the most points in his season opener last night,
forty one in their program's history. The next closest was
(01:57):
in two thousand and one. They also lost by their
greatest margin in any game since two thoy and eighteen.
And here's the last one for all you, Bill Belichick.
Truther Chapel, Bill mac Brown, his predecessor, had never lost
the game by that margin during his second stin in
North Carolina, and of course he was asked unceremoniously in
(02:20):
favor of.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Them, I thought I saw somewhere where they gave up
seventy three points in the game. Is that not true
with mac.
Speaker 4 (02:25):
Brown in his first this was his second.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
Okay, all right, I was just gonna say I thought
I read that somewhere. I just want to make sure
so all around awful, and I came away with one
thing and one thing only.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
I'm rooting.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Openly rooting for Bill Belichick to fail at North Carolina.
And let me tell you why why. I have nothing
personal against Bill Belichick. I don't know the guy. He's
never done anything to me wrong. I know people always say, oh.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
What did you sleep with your wife?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Why are you so antiis?
Speaker 4 (02:55):
Or that no cut hoodies? That's okay problem, miss.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
No, I don't know the man personally. It ain't about
the cheating that he did in New England. That ain't
the reason.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It's the stuff at North Carolina that I'm rooting against.
You know what I'm rooting against.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
What's that?
Speaker 1 (03:13):
Nepotism? Cronyism. Look at his look at his staff, friends, family, kids,
all this stuff. I'm rooting against nepotism. I'm rooting against
his girlfriend being in the huddle or being on the field.
Bill Belichick is seventy three years old. I don't remember
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ever seeing his wife on the sidelines run a game.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
Tell me I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Have you ever seen her?
Speaker 1 (03:43):
She was Casper the ghosts if she was out there,
because I never saw her. And this girlfriend is up
robbed sasheting up and down. Bill is like, okay, he
was there with one coach. Did you see the coach
turn away? Because you know, maybe she's saying something. He
turned away because he was like, maybe I shouldn't hear.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
Ray.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
You're on a football field, you're a coach, this is
his girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
What are you turning away from?
Speaker 3 (04:07):
The conversation with Bill Belichick there in the center.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Of the field.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And and the other part is them trying to make
money off the Hulu you know documentary And I'm against
all of that. Like coach football, that stuff should come,
and it comes if you were to turn his program around,
but not the other stuff. And then the last thing
(04:33):
they had to goll the audacity to go get a
trademark for gold Digger.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
They should have got a.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Trademark for Golden Corral because that's where she would be
working if it wasn't for Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
How about that? So I'm against all of that.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm on the.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Record, I want North Carolina to lose every game that
Bill Belichick is involved in because Rob Parker is anti nepotism,
anti your girlfriend running the football team when she has
no business being out there, anti making money and doing
all this other stuff when you haven't done Jack there
(05:13):
with the Hulu and her on social media. Look at that,
how well we're doing it our documentary and all this.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I'm against it. All this is so unlike.
Speaker 1 (05:24):
I was never a Bill Belichick guy from the cheating scandal.
You say this, I'm not standing for, and I'm telling
you right now, I'm openly hoping that this winds up
being a total disaster for Bill Belichick.
Speaker 7 (05:41):
Well, let me tell you something. We were sitting here yesterday.
We talked about Chapel Hill.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Bill.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
It looked Mark like kill Bill. To me, it was
a massacre. It was a beatdown. It was terrible, it
was embarrassing. And I believe it's only a bit of
what's to come.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Now.
Speaker 7 (05:55):
I don't think every single game will be such a
widespread in the score like this. But you elaborate, You
said so many things. I'm just gonna laborate on a
few things. The reason why this isn't gonna work is
because multiple reasons. One the catch twenty two of it all.
He needs to win fast in order for players to go,
oh shoot, look what he's doing, and maybe he can
usher in an NFL factory line and get guys to
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the league. But in order to win fast, you gotta
have players. But you gotta get players when you win,
and you know what, that takes time, and you know what,
he don't have time.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
So it's not about to happen.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
You think anybody who plays high school football watched that
game last night?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
I said, oh yeah, I want to go to North Camp.
Speaker 7 (06:32):
If that was a kid who was like, yo, North Carolina,
Bill Bell, he's got six Super Bowl ring. They just
ripped up their letter and intent to go play. It
just got ripped. Let me tell you it's in a
bunch of shutters right now. The intent to play for Unz,
they might as well call it unk. I'm not playing
for the unk. I'm not playing for him right now. Now,
let me continue on why this isn't gonna work. What
(06:53):
I'm also tripping on is you can't teach all old
dog new tricks. At least that's what I thought they
lied to me because this old dog told me no
distractions locked in. We're on the Cincinnati all this. Now
I see him as on book tours, He's got it
shows with his girl. He's arguing in the Robert Kraft
like he had at seventy some year old, arguing with
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an eighty something year old.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
He's doing this, He's doing it.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
I've seen him more in the last year with interviews
than I've seen him in twenty something years, popping on
everybody's podcast, interviews and shows, which is fine if that's
what he was gonna do, which might have been al
right at TV doing that a little different, get a
different spin of different side of Bill. Now we got
his girlfriend. We never, like you said, we never really
saw wives or anybody. Now she's popping up everywhere we
(07:38):
saw a wife or a girlfriend. Absolutely, And then this
was also what was bad about the kill Bill massacre.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
If there was nothing else you could hang your hat
on with him.
Speaker 7 (07:49):
It was defense like that that has been in Staple.
It was with the Staple, with the Giants when henew
Bill Parcels, when they won those six Super Bowls. Look
at their defense was top five every year. Absolutely, and
That's one of the things that Tom Brady had in
his favor was dang it, if nothing else is working,
I know, I got a great defense and a great
special team.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
The defense was trash.
Speaker 7 (08:09):
So if they were out there and they lost, you know, okay,
twenty to three, you all right, we're working on offense.
It takes time, okay, but the defense solid held on
only twenty you know, that's not bad. You can't get
beat down like that in all fasts of the game.
And we were talking about this yesterday. They showed the
clock ticking. They said they had had a first down
and in since eighteen eight seventeen PM or whatever it was.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
It went two hour, two hours of a regular time,
not football time, two hours.
Speaker 7 (08:38):
So that that was the bat to me. You at
least expect a showing in some facet like man, all right, well, shoot, defensively,
they gonna be a problem. You know, they gotta work
on and get the quarterback. He's a transfer.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (08:48):
It wasn't nothing to hain't get on. It wasn't a
hat hook in sight. Couldn't hang my hat on nothing.
He made MJ fadeaway, MJ. You know how he let
a fader he did it again. He phased, just left
and I'm gonna get on the boto here Bill, I'm
gonna get some sleep. And they don't go to a
cigar lounge in the middle of now, you know you
love the cigar lounge.
Speaker 4 (09:05):
No, that was terrible.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
After that, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
LT left up crazy. What we saw LT at the
Super Bowl. Don't have him come sack you. And where
we're about to be in the Bay Area this year
coming up Super Bowl? What are you about to say
about LT.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
After that performance?
Speaker 4 (09:20):
You might go to rehab.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I'm just saying, see football rehab.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Make it six years now.
Speaker 7 (09:30):
I gotta jump in the middle between him and LT.
He gonna treat me like any give us.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
I said football rehab that he don't want to watch
any bad for it.
Speaker 7 (09:36):
You're gonna be in physical rehab that work, working on
your back, stretching you out.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
No, man, listen. The only thing I'll disagree with you on.
You know me.
Speaker 7 (09:44):
We've argued about this a million times. I don't mind nepotism. Ah,
I do, I know, but I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
I'm gonna get my cousin, my nephew to do do
your show, do your job.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Who's sitting next to me right now? Who's sitting next
to me right now? Who's sitting next to me right now?
Speaker 3 (09:58):
That's not nepotism, that's my robb Gi Dylan.
Speaker 7 (10:01):
What's the dudey shout out to Dylan watch the countdown
before next thing? I know he caused me. He's like, yeah,
remember Dylan, Yeah, yeah, I was just saying, man, maybe
you know what I'm saying. We're gonna bring them on.
He gonna be like, you know what I'm saying that?
And Dylan gonna have a job here, Robzi how many
people work were used to be around Rob? Not got
a job here? Dag I did show him two times
last week and rot and weise. What's you got to
(10:22):
say to that? I'm not related to any of those people,
don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
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Speaker 6 (11:09):
Yeah, this is something that's been building, you know, even
before the trade, but since the trade is We talked
about it when you were out robbed. Me and Kelvin
were talking and we agreed that once this trade was official,
the Micah Parsons hit pieces, We're gonna be glorious.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
It's they were all coming.
Speaker 6 (11:24):
It's like when the Lakers, anything happened with them, there's
always a hit piece in the chamber for the athletic
or ESPN. Well, the Dallas Cowboys like the Lakers of
the NFL. So we knew this was all coming. It
started last week when the Forward Star Telegram reported and
Jerry Jones confirmed that the decision to move off of
Michael Parsons was quote unanimous both in terms of the
front office, the coaching staff, and several player leaders as
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they called them, all agreed that, hey, if you don't
want to be here, get him out of here.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
And that's always something we talked about it before. Don't
be asking for trade if you ain't serious about it,
you put that out there, you know what I mean,
Like there's a chance people say, especially oh you don't,
you just can't do that? Go ahead, sure.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
And then the next day Albert Brier, friend of the
show MMQB, reported in his column that more specifically, the
Micah Parsons podcast had rubbed a lot of people the
wrong way, including but not limited to quarterback Dak Prescott.
You recall he did that top ten list and then
left that out of it was a big talking point. Well,
today ESPN published a full length piece. They dispatched four
(12:30):
different NFL writers for this, so let's let you know
they're heavily invested in this story. And in the report
they discuss how Michael Parson's behavior, especially during training camp
here towards the end right not wearing his practice jersey,
he came to practice without shoes on.
Speaker 4 (12:45):
He's eating notches in the locker room. He's laying down
at the trainer's table.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
They're dead laying down.
Speaker 1 (12:49):
Seriously, that was when you crossed the line, like you're
making a mockery of the game.
Speaker 6 (12:53):
That it rubbed everybody the wrong way, coaches, players included,
with one team source saying that his energy in and
around the team was quote deflating.
Speaker 7 (13:03):
So I said this last week, when you're Michael Parsons,
even if you fell scorn, even if you felt like
Jerry had, you know, maybe ruined the relationship that you
once had with him, you can't out Jerry.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Jerry.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
Jerry's the owner. Jerry's been doing this for thirty plus years.
Jerry's done stuff. The fans hate it. Guess what they do.
They go out and buy tickets and buy jerseys and
talk about the Cowboys and do it and throw and
throw remote at their TVs and still watch the Cowboys.
Meaning they ain't going nowhere with Jerry. That's their team.
They're all a part of Cowboy Nation. How about them Cowboys?
(13:38):
But Micah, what you can do is by acting like
a brat and by doing all that and pouting, and
I understand you might have felt like you were, you know,
being disrespected. I understand that that's gonna fall on you.
The systems always fall on the lower man, so it's
gonna fall on the player instead of the owner. And
then the fans are gonna look at you, and your
other teammates are gonna look at you. Now we have reports.
We talked about it last week. You were saying, Robb
(14:00):
g with this stuff was gonna come out where teammates
you're gonna start already question his leadership. And one of
the continual things that came up is the podcast. And
Rob and I have talked about it for a whole
year essentially that we've been doing this show together. Nobody's
saying you can't do a pod. My thought was, do
a pot on something else, you like, do a pot
on the NBA, do a pot on parenting, do a
pot on on Penn Stak football where you're on dogs
(14:24):
going a restaurant exactly.
Speaker 4 (14:25):
I'm signed up for that.
Speaker 7 (14:26):
Put me on like dogs looking peaches, Yes, you and
the peaches, but let me continue peaches.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
So my whole thing is this is gonna look.
Speaker 7 (14:37):
Bad on you because you're pouting, You're throwing a temper
tantrum and now everybody's viewing you on this and also
going back to the podcast, this needs to be an opportunity,
Rob G. Because I believe there are two sides, especially
when a breakup. Right, this is what Jerry Jones and
the Cowboys gonna say, this is Mike and his agent
are gonna say. Ultimately, there's a third side, which is
the truth. Now that you're a packer, what I need
from you is to go in there and focus. What
(14:59):
I need for you is to refine your leadership because
it's okay to reassess in the regroup. Right, some of
what they if everybody's calling you crazy, Rob, what they
what it might be that you're crazy, meaning if a
lot of people are questioning leadership. A lot of people
didn't like this. A lot of your own teammates went
to coaches said, man, we don't know. This guy's getting
out of control, especially with the podcast putting accountability on
(15:21):
everybody else but him.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
These guys suck, the coaches suck. We gotta do that.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
Now he has an opportunity to resay, and to me,
I look at this as don't go there doing the same,
being the same because a lot of people question you
when you change.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Oh you done went to Green Bay. Now you change?
Speaker 7 (15:34):
You let Jerry Jones, Punky, now you change. No, I'm
refining my leadership. I'm changing who I am a bit.
I'm tweaking how I go about my business. And one
of the things I would advise them is the same
thing we've talked about is what the podcast. Make it
a thing of the podcast. Put it in your past.
Paul pot Istead A podcast pod can't Okay, I can't
do it anymore?
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Podcast away? Put it away.
Speaker 7 (15:57):
And the reason I say that is because nothing good
comes out of it, and you don't have to do it.
And now you don't want to create an atmosphere in
a new place where they has stability.
Speaker 4 (16:05):
You're the new guy where you start to ruffle feather.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Right, let me ask you this. Yes, you're Green Bay. Okay,
do you say.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Please?
Speaker 3 (16:14):
No podcast?
Speaker 4 (16:15):
Do you do?
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Do you?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I believe that as as the new organization. Hey, Michael,
we love you, we just gave you this money, all this.
We just wanted to be focused during the football season. Please.
Speaker 7 (16:28):
I don't think they don't they do that because I
don't why I think you said that.
Speaker 5 (16:32):
Total.
Speaker 7 (16:32):
I think they do overt suggestion, overt jokes. Oh see
all right, Michael, don't come in here. You're putting me
on your pod like a you're Matt Lafloor like ha ha,
we weak mother love it.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Don't put me on there.
Speaker 9 (16:44):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
But my thing is why why should you be afraid
to tell somebody who you're employed, who you want their
full focus to be, and say, here in Green Bay, Michaeh,
nobody has a podcast.
Speaker 3 (16:56):
This is not I They're not directed at you.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Here in Green Bay, we want football to be that
focus for the next six months. And this is what
we're all.
Speaker 7 (17:06):
Is the era of player empowerment and also just employ
ye empowerment.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
And there are things that used to be that you
didn't do that.
Speaker 7 (17:17):
Maybe you didn't post on your social media, maybe it
was too risque. And now employer can't come to you
nobody because they're gonna be like, well, I can't wear that.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
I can't Who are you are you putting me in?
Speaker 7 (17:27):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:27):
You can, Okay, good luck in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
But my only problem is the issue in Dallas wasn't
you weren't defensive player of the Year, Your defense wasn't
ranked number one. They weren't giving up forty pieces you know,
in games that you played in and all that, and
you go on your podcast saying.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
You did your je I did my job.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
I don't know what you want me to do kind
of thing, which is basically implying that everybody else didn't
do their job. I'm just saying, if I'm Matt Lafleur,
I have that conversation. Maybe they did before they even
got there to say we really want you, ay, and
we've shown them. We gave up two first round picks,
(18:09):
a pro all the money, Pro Bowl and all the money.
Speaker 7 (18:11):
Okay, but Buck thirty six guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (18:15):
I think you want to have that conversation. I think
you're scared to force him, like if you don't do this, No,
I don't want to like, but I absolutely believe you
suggest you you imply, and I think you hopeing her
David will get his agent. I think if you're his agent,
you say, hey, man, you know part of this is
always marketing, brand and and focusing. Let's use this as
a chance to rebrand what Micah can be. Let's use
(18:36):
this as a chance to change the perception of you.
Let's go in here be locked in laser focus and
now we can you know, kind of bring that to
the new Micah in Green Bay.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
And let's not forget.
Speaker 7 (18:48):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
The Athletic reported in February that the Jets told Aaron
Rodgers that he wouldn't be welcome back if with the
team if he continued to do McAfee show.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Like they just were like, we don't want this.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
The difference though, No, I'm just saying like, like, so,
so a team did say it and end up wind
up moving, you know on anyway.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
That's why I think it's different. It's easy. You almost
want to do that, so go screw it.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'm out, yes, but he's but still a request was made,
you know what I mean, not that it was an issue,
and and and and I understand like you're not trying
to dictate everything, but you're trying to be all on
the same page.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
It's only now, Okay, you.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
Had the thing with Dak Now are you going to
be doing stuff about Jordan love and start calling him
Jordan like.
Speaker 3 (19:33):
Or I like him, but I don't love him.
Speaker 7 (19:35):
If a player leaves, do you talk about him like
you did DeMarcus Lawrence? Remember, you know what I saying
that who was a who was a big time pleasence
in that locker room, and they got into it just
because he and it just yes. So I'm hoping he
uses this as a time to retool, to focus in,
lock in it, because listen, I was telling rog G
this earlier. Kobe Bryant the last not the last last
(19:57):
when he was be down and broken, right, but those
that years when making the championship runs and competing three
back to back to back, going to the finals, winning
two out of three that run, he had to refine
himself as a leader. Socking Samaki Walker on the plane,
wasn't it, yelling at everybody all the time, wasn't it?
He had to get some better talent, for sure, But
(20:17):
he also had to eat these are his own words.
He had to find ways to lead better. We read
or he Phil Jackson book. Between Kobe MJ. I had
to teach them and work with them on leadership. And
my whole point is this is that phrase, he's twenty six,
You've already been all pro, You've been all that. How
about now we lock in and folks to be that
guy the next six year, that kind of leader, that
being that guy in the locker room because you don't
(20:38):
want that to be your thing. You're you're a bad
guy in the locker room. You don't want that to
carry along with you.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
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Speaker 7 (20:56):
Joe Montana is there's three guys that if you say
are the goat, I'm not like, I'm never gonna be
mad at Joe Montana, never gonna be mad at Tom Brady,
And I think John Elway if you put him in
the goat.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Now, just the ability hold that dog because you might
be mad at Joe Montana today.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
Hold on Joe about to get this smoke.
Speaker 6 (21:13):
Because Joe Montana was on the Pat McAfee show Bruce
Arians feeling he's gonna have a regular spot apparently with them,
and here's the exchange they asked Joe Montana, Hey, Joe,
if you're building a NFL franchise, got to pick your quarterback.
And you can't pick Brock Perdy because you know he's
a Niner through and through. So you win Brock Purty first.
You got three quarterback choices. Give us your top three.
(21:36):
Here's the exchange.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
If you were a general manager head coach today, pick
the top three quarterbacks you want to start your franchise with.
Speaker 4 (21:44):
And why like this and not Rock Perdy. You can't
take Brock Boom. Okay, Brock is your number one pick.
Speaker 9 (21:50):
We know that.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Yep. So you love Brock Perdy, you love Brock Perdy.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
I'm taking I'm taking the guy in Buffalo, Okay, Josh Allen, Josh,
and the guy that surprised me that I thought would
obviously Joe Burrows, another guy I like a lot, and and.
Speaker 9 (22:11):
Believe it or not, I like the guy in with
the Chargers just uh yeah. I think they just kind
of they've kind of kind of gone by the wayside there,
but uh, you know, I just I just like the
way they all those three guys are.
Speaker 7 (22:26):
Uh you are right over there, could you no?
Speaker 1 (22:30):
No, you smoke it over there. And let me tell
you this. I think Joe Montana has to good. I've
always said that, and I have mad respect for him.
And when he played and you know how the game was,
how how many time you got beat up against the
Giants defense like it was a different game, and he
was incredible.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
He really was.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Eleven touchdowns, no picks.
Speaker 4 (22:52):
And four super bowls. He was a standard.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Okay, but this list and his list to me, once
you put Justin Herbert on there, I can't listen to it.
I really got it. I got an issue, and I
get it. He checks all the boxes. He's six foot
three or four, he's got a buck right six five,
got got a big arm all night, looks like a
(23:14):
quarterback his bill.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
I get all that.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
He just hadn't done anything. I'm sorry to warrant being
on that list. I just cannot Lamar won a couple
of MVPs.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
Wow, shocking.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
Okay, you want to say that from the traditional but
your issue, and I want you to go first.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
You know my issue is I do know yo, nobody issue.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
But you have an issue with cool Joe, don't you.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
I do have a cool super cool Joe. He cannot
be any cooler. And I've been around him, you know,
just covering super Bowls. Great dude, for sure, and arguably
the go I'm not mad at that, absolutely not.
Speaker 4 (23:49):
However, this ain't the goat list. Go now. Rob g
Is stopped short of saying a few things.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
He went on to say they go who ho ho,
and somebody made talking about Patrick Mahons and he said,
I think I would have had him if he was much,
if he was younger, although they're not getting hit as
much today, so he probably played forever. So yeah, I
guess maybe I should have had it patting there, But
he was cushing in his age because he's Patrick Mahomes
and difference it will turn thirty this month, okay, but
(24:18):
the difference in age is Rob G Right, Yeah, he's
a years older than this Josh all year, not even
a full year. Justin Herbert is twenty seven and Joe
Burrow will be twenty nine December.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
So he's a year older. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
I'm not doune cooking Joe.
Speaker 7 (24:33):
We got Joe on the plate, forgot Joe on the
menu for They let me saw t Joe real quick.
Now I got a list for you, my friend Rob Parker,
Rob G who I'm beef with right now. I'm trash
talking Tuesday at the end of the show. You know
how many guys won super Bowls after age of thirty
(24:55):
clock this. Tom Brady won six Super Bowls after the
age of thirty six. Peyton Manny won one, Aaron Rodgers
one one at thirty one, Russell Wilson was thirty, Joe
Montana won two after thirty Did he forget? John l
(25:18):
Way won two at thirty seven and thirty eight? I
mean the list goes on Drew Brees thirty one. So
my point is you absolutely and your favorite. Eli Manning
got won at thirty one. So what does he mean
he's little ols? I ain't rolling with Patrick mahomes. The
other guys on the list haven't done anything. Josh Allen,
(25:42):
who is immensely talented, but he hadn't done anything.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
Justin Herbert, we don't get me started.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
No, that that's the guy who has not really done anything.
I just can't get over. Like he makes everybody's.
Speaker 7 (25:55):
List, and then to leave Lamar off for Justin Herbert.
I understand Joe Burrow and Justin Herbert kind of fit
the traditional nineteen eighties quarterback that he's looking for that
plays in a you know, straight out of Central casting.
Speaker 4 (26:08):
I'm putting the quarterback in the movie.
Speaker 7 (26:10):
You'd put Joe Burrow, or you would put Justin but Lamar.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Patrick Mahon, he watched Lamar last year.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
It's insane. What Lamar has done for the last three
four years.
Speaker 7 (26:20):
What do you have forty one touchdowns before me started? Man, Yes, Oh,
absolutely ridiculous. Those two should have been on the list.
Now at last point, drop, I know there's kind of
the four. The big four right is Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson,
Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. So somebody was gonna get left
off when you ask him three. But to me, leaving
off Patrick and Lamar was crazy. Joe respectfully, Joe.
Speaker 1 (26:41):
Now, Joe, I'm gonna agree with Joe on one thing.
I can see why he left off Patrick Mahomes, and
it has nothing to do with age. If you just
want to be honest and where these quarterbacks are going.
The other guys are ascending and Patrick Homes is descending.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Okay, I'm gonna let you go. I'm just saying, be honest.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
With the stats and the numbers, it's not a it's
not a career Lifetime Achievement award he's talking about right
now if you're looking at it. And my argument all
the time is that most people aren't honest enough to
tell you that Patrick Mahomes is not the same quarterback.
The numbers beared out the idea last year that in
(27:32):
games that he played last year, the Chiefs were fifteen
and one, fifteen.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
And one.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
In a quarterback league and a guy who people are
always saying when they do the polls, he's the number
one quarterback they and yet he didn't get one MVP
vote first place vote last year, not one that speaks
volumes of the quarterback league and against Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
And if you look just an honest look, I'm not
talking about his career.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
He's in the Hall of Famer already, so I'm not
one of these guys I'm trying to poop poo it
and discount his start to his career. But the last
two years, this is not the Patrick Mahomes that started
the league. You know that when he started the league
that electrified and people looked at it. This is a
dink dunk, non descript five yards of past, like it's
(28:31):
somebody we don't even recognize. And yes, they keep winning
and they've gotten the Super Bowls, and I get all that,
but it ain't on the backs of Patrick Mahomes as
it used to be. He was must see TV. That
team was incredible.
Speaker 7 (28:46):
Here's what I don't agree with you at what I
don't agree is it's the same thing. Why to me,
when we talk a lot of times you're talking basketball.
One of the things I liked about, you know, like
Luca with the Mavericks for those you know, handful of years.
What I like about Lebron I like guys that when
the team is great, cool, we got a great chance
to do some great things. When the team ain't that great,
we still got a chance to do some great things.
(29:08):
And to me, that's what I like about Patrick Mahomes.
When the team is great, were putting up thirty forty
a game, great when the team was barely scoring you know,
twenty dage we're gonna go fifteen to two and fifteen
and one. It might've been sixteen and one if he
played that last game. How to me, I can't knock
you for that. I give you more credit. When you
got guys coming in and out, you got a bunch
(29:29):
of injuries. You know, you got a good defense, so
you know how to lean on them. You're not force
it up. To me, that's more of a compliment that
I can play in multiple ways, because we've seen where
guys can only play one way. And if you can
stop that one way, they're hurt, and to me, I
like to see that. Patrick mahonmes guys in and out.
I'm not gonna be able to make all the plays,
but dangn when I need to make a play, Rob
(29:49):
g One of my favorite stats last year was what
it was third down conversion for first downs. You know
who was number one, Patrick Mahoons at fifty three percent.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
Okay, but if you see that stat in people who
vote for the halt for the MVP because he.
Speaker 7 (30:02):
Wasn't an MVP caliber player at all. Lamar Jackson should
have been MVP. We both agreed, But I told you
Josh Sallow was gonna win it because of fatigue. You
don't want to hear me. Josh Allen won because of fatigue.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Rob Parker, what else is it?
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Because it's because they're friendly to get the players who
were friendly with Joe Burrow, Dan Orlowski?
Speaker 4 (30:20):
What like?
Speaker 3 (30:20):
This was his mission?
Speaker 1 (30:22):
I'm dead serious. It was about friendship and I'm being buddies.
How did you change your vote? He should have been
First Team All.
Speaker 7 (30:28):
Pro too, because people, well people are tired of them.
Speaker 4 (30:30):
But doesn't matter.
Speaker 7 (30:31):
Those two had MVP and even Joe Burrow had an
MVP candidate season. So my point is he doesn't have
to be MVP to still be the best. Tom Brady
has what two MVPs I believe in his career if
I'm not or two off pros? I think it is
or something like that, something where you would think he'd
have more considering how great he is, but he doesn't.
But yet he's still the goat. Joe Montana can argument
(30:52):
say he's a god. I'm not mad at that at all.
So Patrick Mahomes didn't have to be the MVP to
still be the best?
Speaker 4 (30:57):
All right?
Speaker 7 (30:58):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine off farm make the need
to make Joe Montana's list for sure? Come on, Joe.
Speaker 3 (31:04):
Was Joe wrong in leaving Patrick Mahomes off his list?
Speaker 9 (31:09):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (31:10):
Or was he right?
Speaker 1 (31:11):
And I say right, I would put Lamar should have
been on the list rather than Justin Herbert and not
Patrick Mahomes. He has had two back to back down
years and I'm just trying to about those numbers, like, look
at the numbers. I'm not hating on him or trying
to discredit his career. Just be honest and fair and
(31:31):
look at the numbers. Was Joe Montana wrong leaving Patrick
Mahomes off the list or was he right?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
One game?
Speaker 7 (31:38):
To save your life, Ron, you're taking Josh Allen, Lamar
Jacks or Joe Burrainy over him.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
That's not what his comments. Yes or no. I'm taking
yes and no.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
Tak that's a black quarterback, Rober you heard what I said.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
That's your one. Okay, that's your one.
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