October 10, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not there’s real cause for concern in Philadelphia following their second consecutive loss, take Brian Daboll to task for being more worried about his own job security than the health of Jaxson Dart, and argue whether the San Francisco 49ers are already having buyer’s remorse with Brock Purdy’s massive contract extension.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The Eagles lost again.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
After this ten game winning streak, they go ahead and
lose back to back games. Got blowed out on Thursday
Night Football by a couple of rookies Jackson Dark Campscataboo
and the New York Football Giants. And a lot of
it stems from a really, really bad offense, all right.
They entered the game ranked twenty six in rushing, and
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they're supposed to be a rushing team, and they couldn't
run the ball after the first drive last night Jalen Hurts,
so they said, hey, we can't run the ball. Jalen
Hurts are gonna be a guy. In the last three games,
Jalen Hurts is six for twenty eight on third down.
He's completing just thirty five percent of his passes on
passes beyond ten yards in the second half of games.
(01:10):
When teams make their adjustments offensively. Defensively, they rank in
the bottom five and damn near every advanced stat when
it comes to offense. Needless to say, now you got
you had a team meeting between Jalen Hurds, Saquon Barkley,
AJ brown which A J. Browns doesn't remember. We'll talk
about that later.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And this said it was in the park a lot
it was.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
And now you got Lane Johnson who never talks saying, yeah,
our offense has become too predictable.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It's all bad in Philly.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, we've been talking about for a handful of weeks
now and Rob, I'll.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Can the issues.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I have are you know me identity and historically the
last couple of years, last nice running.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Foot Bowl champ is what their identity is.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Right, And you're only as you know, we only as
Jenny Jackson, what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
And nobody's won the Super Bowl yet, so they're still
super Bowl champ.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
No, without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And what they've done for me lately is not look
like super Bowl champs.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And that's what's concerning because one of the things is
you know me, what's your identity? Okay, we're hard, nos,
we play defense great, Okay, at least we know.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
If the offense is struggling, you can lean on that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Great example, and I was telling Rob g this a
couple of times when you were out roped, was that
at least the.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Texans can hang their hat on that cee.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
They stroud struggling, But we keep being in games because
of our defense not winning. What does that mean? So
why but they winning? What I'm saying, so at least
we at least at least even if we don't win.
My point is you at least can say half of
the one of the halfs of the what you need.
The defense and offense we have locked down. They don't
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have that right now. So what the Eagles. That's what
makes it really interesting is that if you could say, well,
shoot man, defense is sucking right now, but at least
we got Lamar and Dereck Henry. Our offense is great.
That's not the case with the Eagles, and that's what
makes us.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So that's good that they lose and give up forty
points every night, but you got doc Ke next. Is strange.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So if you look at the offense, right now. Total
offense is thirtieth. Do you how do you only get
two hundred and sixty one yards in a total game.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Passing thirty first rushing at least we can hang our
hat on that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
No, you can't. Twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Then you go to the defensive side of the ball.
Total defense twentieth, twenty sixth rush defense. They're not stopping anybody.
They're seventeenth in scoring, so people can score on them.
It's just very strange right now for a reigning champ
to not have an identifiable trait.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
That is what makes this really weird. Usually, if you
look at the Kansas City Chiefs last year, where I
heard you diss on them for an.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Entire year, but yet they won. Yet the Eagles you
keep defending. But what I'll add to that was, at
least they could say we're down receivers, we're down for checker,
we're down our running backs.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
The Eagles have their full roster.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You have the maybe on paper, the best two receivers
as far as the tandem. Then you have a running
back which should be top one, two three offensive line,
a quarterback who's been there for years. So this is
what makes it strange, rob is that what is going on?
And now you have DeVante Smith and at.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
One thing, do you have a new offensive coordinator who's
never called plays?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
So then why is the defense back?
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I'm just asking you why the offensive and defensive line
aren't the same as they were last year?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It was an all time both of them. And concerned.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Okay, you're concerned as to what They're not going to
make the playoffs, they have no shot.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I'm asking you what are you concerned about? What's what's
your concern?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
What that one?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
If you let me get it out, Okay, tell me
if I'm a J. Brown, if you see why you're
saying what is wrong with the offense. We're going to
need to be able to score to win games, and
they cannot score the ball? Is they giving them thirty
four points to the one and four giants as well?
Or if they fumble the ball or give the ball
up or throw a bad pick like those are the
things that go into the game as well, and you
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can't act like those things didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And my only routine what they do. And that's my
point that there's certain things.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
It's just like the Ravens when they gave up those
games with big time fumbles in the worst opportunity of
the worst moments of situations. It didn't correct anything, or
if it didn't happen, it probably would have won two
more games.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
My only point is, what is your concern?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Are they not gonna make the play terrible?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay? Can they get better? Can they get better?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
On?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is their team?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is what I'm asking you. Yes, you know the first
thirty so yeah, gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
That what you're gonna tell me is that what you're
telling me you're doing I'm telling you, Oh my god,
the Eagles are awful.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
My god, they can't win a game. Oh yeah, there wow.
But then realize yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And they look they simply look concerned. What are you concerns?
Your concerned? What are yours? Is that horrible? No, that's
not the concern. That's not the concern.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
The concern is that they can't get better because Jalen
Hurts is not good enough, because their offensive line is
not good enough, because their defense isn't good enough. That's
a concern, not that you played a poor game a
week or.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Every game. That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Then you're saying that Jalen Hurts can't get better and
that they're doomed.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
It's a very simple Parker, say whatever you want to say.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
No, I would say soever, I would say, I do
not say anything.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't. I'm not concerned. I don't have concerns. That
is my answer.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Concern going to the playoff, players going to win the division,
and just like when we went to the Super Bowl, Oh,
Jalen Hurts, if he has to throw the ball, I'm
concerned they won't be able to win because Jalen Hurts
is this.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
And that and in their offense, and.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
He was the VP that game, was the MVP man
they needed to be the best part about this is
here's the best part about it. At least one thing
I could say is daggd, I'm consistent because you set
up here for an entire year telling me about the Chiefs,
and the Chiefs said, I told you, Chiefs said two.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Years you weren't here.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
One of those jaims about two year, I wasn't here.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It was one you told me for two years, and
they got they're not the same and the.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Eagles and the Eagles aren't the same team.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
At all.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's exactly my point, but you ignore that that the
Eagles are not the same team. That's exactly my point,
that the Chiefs aren't the same team, but the Eagles
aren't the Eagles. Look, but you can't tell me what
you're concerned about. You that you can't win, or you
can't get back to the super Bowl, or you can't
make the playoffs. They're not getting back to the super Bowl.
(08:15):
I said that, yes, okay, they're not getting to the
super Bowl. Absolutely not getting back to the super Bowl.
That that is, that's not happening. But the fact that
you were watching this team and acting like this is normal.
Teams that get to the Super Bowl win have top
five offenses, at least top.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I saw the Lions throw five interceptions in the game,
and you know what, they happen to win that game
against the Texans. But I didn't go, oh my god,
there's no way they're gonna win the Lions a game
they did no.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I know, in a game the same team that would
ballistic offensively.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
A team no.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And then and then what happened the biggest game and
the biggest game of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
He threw three And that's why I told you.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
I was never all about Jared Golf because I seen
that Jared Golf.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That's all My point is.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
My point is, at that point, you didn't write off
the Lions because Jared Goff through five interceptions?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Did you know? You didn't because they weren't.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
In fact, they were first in office different.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It showed you about what he has the potential to do.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just the bad have a bad game. My point is,
this has been a bad year. How can you sit
up here and act like this isn't a bad year?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
And I told you I don't have a concern level.
That's the difference between me and you. You're concerned. I'm
not concerned. This is a buff in the row that
figure it out. They have way too many good players that.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
They won't get it figured out. Everything. Okay, they're gonna
figure it out. Okay, you're telling me they're not gonna win.
Are they gonna win the division?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Who you got in the division? Who's winning the division? Washington?
They can very well. I'm asking you, is that who
you're picking Washington to win the division? I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sitting up here telling who's gonna win. I'm telling you
where they are today.
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Speaker 3 (10:46):
So, if you.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Watch the game, you saw late in the third quarter
that Jackson Dark took a shot and he had to
get taken to the Blue Medical tend to be evaluated
for a concussion, which you may or may not have
seen during the broadcast, though, was that Brian Dable, head
coach of the Giants, followed Dart into the blue tent
because he wanted to see what was going on and
he had a big fourth down call coming up, but
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he wanted to know if he's gonna have his quarterback
or not.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Later, he was.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Seen getting real we'll say, animated with the team doctor
about what's going on with Jackson Dart. Ultimately, Dart was
clear to return to play. He ended up missing two
plays later. What they say was coincidental. I don't know
what that's supposed to mean, but as a result of
the whole ordeal, the NFL and the PA are both
investigating the situation to determine whether or not Brian Dabele
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and the New York Giants violated the concussion Protocol. In fact,
things got so bad that the Giants owner John Marra
had to come out and say that he's talked to
coach day Ball and that while he agrees with Daball
that he wasn't trying to influence the doctor to allow
him to get dark to play.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Him going into ten number one is inappropriate. At number two,
it was.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Just a bad look for all parties involved.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And I'm with the owner. I'm serious.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
It was a bad look and he gave coaches a
bad name. And he's the worst kind of coach because
while their job is to try to win the game,
and I get all that and play, the only thing
that matters more than winning the game is the health
of the players. And this exchange is angry exchange with
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the doctor, as if that was going to oh, okay,
oh coach, what am I thinking? Put the kid back
in without me checking him more or whatever. Kelvin, That's
not what this is about. That's why there's protocol. And
that's why I've always had a problem with doctors being
team doctors and paid by the team. They should be independent,
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paid by the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Do you do? You know what I'm saying, so.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
That they don't have to fear like, oh, the coach
is gonna I can't get the players on the field
fast enough for whatever, So they're gonna next year, they're
gonna let me go and go get somebody out exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
No.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
And and and I think when you're getting paid by somebody,
you feel compelled.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And and the that was that was grandstanding? Who was
that for? That was for the cameras. I want my guy. Hey, Doc,
he wasn't doing the bugs, bunny, what's up?
Speaker 10 (13:17):
Doc?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
He was actually like trying to intimidate the doctor. No,
I'm gonna do the correct protocol. I'm going to see
if this kid is okay before we put him back
out there.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It looked bad. It was not a good look for
Brian Dabo.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
And thank god the Players Association, which you know I
always have issue with, is looking into it along.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
With the NFL and if and if they if they
talked to him and.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Find out or the doctor says, yeah, he was yelling
at me telling me to get him back out there,
and also says or whatever, he needs to be fine
because that that's a bad look and they should send
that video to all the coaches with an email.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
This will not be tolerated.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
He got over he got over zealous, rob a couple
of ways.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
One if he just went in the tent and ultimately
did realize I shouldn't have.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
But I was just chaying, baby, all right, you good
in there?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Baby, you know, like yeah, just checking it. We could
all go, hey, you shouldn't be in there, but we
can understand. You can't double up and compound that, we're
having a whole mental breakdown on the sideline, going off
on the doctor.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like what was that?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
The doctor's looking like, what did I do wrong?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And why are you yelling at me?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And the funniest part is I laughed because I said, dang,
is Russell Wilson this bad?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
That you're going crazy on the doc for a couple
of plays.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You can't say you.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Can't do a drive, you can't do one quarter where
you know, hey, hold it down, Let's make sure our guy,
Jackson Dart is okay.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And he took it too far again.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I understand the human nature, the you know, the element
that makes you want to go check on your guy
while you're not supposed to. I think we can at
least understand that, Hey, go check it in till you
are right.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You okay, You're good. I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But to have a whole breakdown on the sideline was
a bad look for him because it just didn't make sense,
especially knowing what the league is trying to at least
do when it comes to concussions.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And keep in mind, one of.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The unfortunate faces of this is Tua and I think
there's you know, we're all more aware of it because
we've seen quarterbacks get hit a lot as specifically too
over the last two three years.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
He's got to become the poster child for this.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And Dawn is reckless.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
I'm running in the defenders like sticking his head in
and that's what I'm saying, Like he's reckless and he's
not gonna have a long career if he keeps doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
He's gotta go calm that down. He's gotta go talk
to Jalen. Jayden Daniels was great at sliding. Russell Wilson
is great. Actually, he should be asking him. His teammate,
Russell Wilson played baseball. He knows how to slide. Absolutely,
He's great slide and getting out of the way. So
he's gonna have to because he is scatterable, buy into
the by any means necessary run and it's you know,
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running into anybody playing years three years.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Exactly, and it won't last.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And if Jackson Dart is as good as he thinks
he is, and what is going to mean to this
team with fans day ball and everybody hopes that he is,
They're gonna need him and he's gonna have to check
that at the door. I love the athleticism. I love
that he runs, and that's what the modern quarterback is.
In fact, I was telling Rob g I think Jared
Goff is gonna be like the last of the Mohicans,
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as they say, the last person to kind of your
traditional drop back quarterback, because if you look around the league,
everybody runs at least a little bit, So Jared Goff's
like the last. I ain't running nowhere, I'm just throwing
the ball and Jackson dart is that. I like that
he ran for sixty something yards I believe it was,
and obviously got a touchdown running, but he's gotta be
more careful. But as far as Dave Ball, yeah, he's
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probably gonna end up getting some similance of a.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Fine from where he deserves a fine, whether it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Be the team, he's gonna get a fine because you
can't again, Rob, you can't compound it, you can't go
into booth, and you can't have a He went crazy
on the Doc and I was weirded out by that, Like,
why are you mad at the doctor? Guy?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I've been watching the NFL.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I'm seriously since I was a kid and obviously covering
it since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I've never seen a coach go after a doctor. It
was so weird, have you no? And you know what
that was, I've never seen it. That was we're rolling.
My guy's playing good. We got a chance to you know,
we got them on the rope. Now heat my guy
out there, and he ignored he ignored the protocol, which again, dude,
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he might be right back out there. Take it easy, relax,
and if he's as good as you think he is,
and he's what you all hope he'll be, you're gonna
want him for eight to twelve years.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So take it easy on this particular game.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But he got caught so caught up and trying to
win the singular game that he almost could have potentially
messed around and lost the battle.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
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Speaker 3 (17:58):
So we are. H we had some new cameras put in, Yeah,
we got some new care so that's what the delayed.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
These are really nice cameras. Can one of these fit
in my bag? I'm just trying to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Well, you gont to just take it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You don't ask, then you ask for permission later oh forgiveness.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I mean, oh yeah, very very nice.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Uh eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, this was unusual, and I don't know. I get
your point.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
You're rolling, you don't want anything to change, but it
just felt like there was some grand standing.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
No, he went on the side of the sideline.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Part again, I'd be willing to give him ulligain to
the tent.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You know, you're just your natural healing, is what he
was like, jawing at the doctor like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That part was like, Okay, what's going on there? The
doctor didn't tackle him. The doctor the like what did
I do?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Why?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I'm sitting here just doing my job. That part was weird.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That part was please please, please please please put my
guy in please please.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I need him. We're winning, we're winning, we're winning. We
don't win a lot of games.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I need help.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Ye I got back in there. Please please.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
That's what that was.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, that was just not a good look.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And I'm not surprised and it'll be interesting to see,
but I'm sure they'll be an email to all coaches.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm convinced that they're gonna get a video.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know what, the league get video, They get players
get video and hits and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, video is gonna come out. And it just says
that this is not what the protocol.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Oh real quick, Rob, I want to throw this at
you because you had mentioned it. One of the things
that they did have in there. They do the only
persons allowed in the ten is the player, the team doctor,
and an.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Independent Okay, so there you go. So they do have it.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And I wanted I meant to tell.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You, ear he so he doesn't this, he's not he
can't even go into ten.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Its correct, That's where the whole thing that's.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh no, he's got he's got a fine. Then come yeah,
you can't come. You can't come in the ten.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The only three people are allowed the player, the team doctor,
and an an independent doctor. And then and then the sideline,
you know, melt down too. So I think those two things,
some type of fifty five thousand dollars fine is gonna
come down.
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Speaker 3 (20:08):
Rob G we want you to set up this forty
nine Ers thing for us.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
The forty nine ers seem to be having success even
without their starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
What does this say to us?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
It says you would think they got a quarterback controversy
on their hands.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Right, And there's there's a conversation, right, and they even
had to come out and speak on it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
John Lynch did his weekly appearance on KMBR and he
was asked about whether or not the incredible play, honestly
of mac Jones, giving the injuries, given him being banged up,
him being undefeated, if that's caused any kind of tension
you know in the quarterback room, because you know it
is brock Perty's team. But Mac Jones has been flat
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out better than brock Perty so far on these young season.
And Lynch shot it down, and then he added quote,
I wholeheartedly believe that brock is nothing but happy for
our team. He just working his tail off to try
to get back.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I'm gonna say this, Kelvin, if I'm the forty nine Ers,
I want to refund on brock Purty. I never loved
the idea of paying mister irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I don't care what the numbers were. I don't care.
What have we learned about the forty nine ers.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Anybody you seem to put in there, they seem to
excel am I lying.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
No, there's that could be that's true, there's some truth
to that.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
It doesn't matter who they put in. It just seemed
like they're still rolling. The offense is good enough. And
now you're looking and MATC. Jones looks like a well
oiled machine. What in the world, why would you be?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Rock Purty put him back in? Really, yeah, he put
him back in, of course because he's got all the
you know, you paid him all the money and all that,
and and normally you don't lose your job on injury.
But I'm just saying, if I'm a forty nine Ers
fan or the front office, don't you start to question
whether it really was rock party or what we they?
(22:23):
When I say we, you know, the front offense, I
got you. Yeah, what they've set up because they went
to the Super Bowl. They've they've had four quarterbacks, right,
and they just keep rolling.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I don't know, no that listen. I think a couple
of things can be true.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I think Kyle Shanahan is very, very talented as an
offensive mind.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
We've seen that even in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
He can't close the game, I'll give you that, but
he's very talented as an offensive mine. And that's a
compliment to him that when things get a little shaky,
he's able to put in somebody. Jimmy g s get
to a super Bowl. He got to a super Bowl
with him, right, get to Jimmy g get to a
super Bowl. Brock Perdy comes in same thing, NFC Championship
game as well.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I mean, this guy has been productive.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think the difference for me was specifically between these
two guys. Mac Jones is a perfect guy to have
as a backup. We know you and I set up
here after week one going into week two. I believe
it was what did we say, Man, don't you hate
all these backups? Because there was like five to six
starting quarterbacks around, and we're like, you get all excited.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
About these games. Football's back, baby, whoa?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And he starters around When we talked about that, a
little bit of the luster is gone. So having Matt
Jones makes me happy. If I'm a fan of the
forty nine ers, you know, or if I'm a part
of the organization because I got a guy that we
feel comfortable with having a spot of three, four or
five six games in a season. But ultimately, Brock Purdy
has to me earn this money with them. He's twenty
(23:50):
four and fourteen in his career, He's been to a
super Bowl, He's played well in games, he's won big
games for you. In fact, you don't even get to
a super Bowl if you know with you know, you
lose to the Lions in then MC Championship game. That game,
I've said before, I think earned That's what got him
that money because the way he led that team in
that second half day.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It was also a choke by Detroit.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I mean, I believe it. A part of that was
them seeing that.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I mean he has to still make Yeah, he had
to still make plays.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And I hear your point absolutely the four I mean
the Lions.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
The Lions scored one of two field goals brock Proty.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
What field goal? What's the phield? Dan Campbell?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
But you know, but you know what I mean, if
they would have made one or two field goals, brock Proty,
they would have lost.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm screw listen, played Town l a with you know,
and you know this, you live here. Eighty five percent
of the people there are forty nine ers fans, maybe
ten percent of just there for a good time.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I must have been sick in the first half.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
In ar And you know the entire city of Detroit
was booking at their uh their tickets to Vegas that year.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, because they were texting me and then calling spirit.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean that's the other way they would.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
So bring it up to say I'm screaming early.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I said, got to take the three, and all my
Lions fans looked at me, Nah, this is what we do. No, no, no,
you gotta take the three. Because this is a different game.
This is for right to go to the super Bowl.
This ain't Week eight. I get that, Okay, this is
for a chance to go to super Bowl. So I'm
with you on that. But my point with Brock is
that game we said, man, I didn't realize he could
run like that.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I didn't realize he was that tough.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I didn't realize he could make these big types of plays,
and he did that. So I think it's a compliment
that they got their guy in Brock Purdy.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He's not overly paid.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He's right about where he's been if you're going based
off of success, because you can look at him and
compare him to other guys who haven't done anything as
far as the accolades and success he's had, and they're
making more than him. So he's right around where he
needs to be paid. And again they found their guy.
John Lynch talked about that. He said, this is a
guy that is right on the perfect balance of confident
(25:50):
but humble.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
And they got to me, you have a great scenario.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced to win the super
Bowl with Brock Purdy. And my point is only that
no matter who they seem to put in there, they
seem to have offensive success. And at some point you
keep looking at that and saying, did we really you
know what I mean, did we really really have to
pay him?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Did we? So? What do you do? Real question? I'm
really just what do you like?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Do you just keep running out of a Jimmy g
for he's gone, uh Jones for your two next time?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Some point you got to settle in with somebody.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Right now, because sometimes you have to have Remember you're
not winning three four super Bowls. You're not You're trying
to win one. The forty nine ers are desperate to
win one. I'm just looking at Mac Jones. He's got,
he's got. He had three hundred and forty.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Two yards right against.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Eighty four, two seventy nine, six touchdowns, only one interception.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'm not really like like trying to over simplify it.
But they continue to get quarterback play no matter who's
in there.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
So I just wonder, well, there's how much of the
system Trey Lance is sitting here somewhere and saying he play,
He plays ten snaps, He's played ten guys, What about me?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
How many? How many? How many games did he really play?
Speaker 10 (27:13):
What?
Speaker 6 (27:13):
How many complete? How many passes did Trey Lance have? Seriously,
he only played a game in Chicago and maybe one
or two other games.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I don't think he didn't play. Well, I'm saying in
him no, no, But I'm just other seasons.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
So what I'm saying he didn't play, I don't I
remember a game in Chicago in the rain. That's all
I remember. I don't remember. Maybe he had two other games.
I mean one hundred and two attempts that was what
he had.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So that rounds about anywhere from three to four games.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
So probably Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think it's a compliment to Kyle Shanahan again that
he's able to get the most out of guys. But
I think they are absolutely secure when you talk to
those when you hear from all those teams, man, they
love brod Party like the teammates to play they are.
They love that guy, And so to me, that's a
good thing. I got a guy who's going to be
praid properly for you.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You don't need to know.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
That sounds cool, but I want somebody who can play,
whether I like him or not.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Dude, it's twenty four and fourteen, it's been in a
Super Bowl, NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I'm just saying yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
But my point is that that's just extra like you're
talking about. Oh, they like him. He said that they
like Justin Fields in Pittsburgh. Dude, the Jets like Justin Fields.
Now when they look at him, he's a nice guy.
Oh he's a great guy. We're going five. He can't
throw the ball down field. Oh, we love Justin Fields.
I mean, I think that that's just a franchise guy.
(28:35):
We well, they signed him. But I'm just saying the likability.
If you're playing well, people like you. If you don't,
then there's probably some issues.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Matt Jones to me, again, he ain't did nothing wrong.
He's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. But I
do also feel like, is there there's a ceiling Whereas
with Rock Perdy with the twenties athleticism and again in
his toughness and his leadership, I feel like that's the
so I.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Feel like they're not going to win a super Bowl
with him, Rock Purty, who is who's winning the Super
Bowl this year?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't say anything. Nobody ever wins the Super Bowl
with you?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Do know that?
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Right wide open? No, I had what are you talking about?
I had Jalen Hurts winning it last year. I had
Jalen Hurts. And when everybody was saying that just stop
say quant and you'll stop him.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I didn't buy into that.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
J I said, James, I'm saying a guy that's like,
that's Jalen Hurts was going to the Super Bowl right
right we were.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We were just's who you picked.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What I'm saying is like justin Herbert brock Purdy go like, nobody,
Josh is Josh.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Allen going to Super Bowl at some point. No.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
See, That's what I'm saying, Like, no, is he gonna win?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Is probably the question. Is he gonna win a Super Bowl?
I mean I'm not I'm not convinced about that. Who is?
Give me four or five guys. They're on four or
five guys. That's the problem.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The Eagles lost again.
Speaker 4 (00:27):
After this ten game winning streak, they go ahead and
lose back to back games. Got blowed out on Thursday
Night Football by a couple of rookies Jackson Dark Campscataboo
and the New York Football Giants. And a lot of
it stems from a really, really bad offense, all right.
They entered the game ranked twenty six in rushing, and
(00:48):
they're supposed to be a rushing team, and they couldn't
run the ball after the first drive last night Jalen Hurts,
so they said, hey, we can't run the ball. Jalen
Hurts are gonna be a guy. In the last three games,
Jalen Hurts is six for twenty eight on third down.
He's completing just thirty five percent of his passes on
passes beyond ten yards in the second half of games.
(01:10):
When teams make their adjustments offensively. Defensively, they rank in
the bottom five and damn near every advanced stat when
it comes to offense. Needless to say, now you got
you had a team meeting between Jalen Hurds, Saquon Barkley,
AJ brown which A J. Browns doesn't remember. We'll talk
about that later.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
And this said it was in the park a lot
it was.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
And now you got Lane Johnson who never talks saying, yeah,
our offense has become too predictable.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
It's all bad in Philly.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Yeah, we've been talking about for a handful of weeks
now and Rob, I'll.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
Can the issues.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I have are you know me identity and historically the
last couple of years, last nice running.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Foot Bowl champ is what their identity is.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Right, And you're only as you know, we only as
Jenny Jackson, what have you done for me lately?
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Right now?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
And nobody's won the Super Bowl yet, so they're still
super Bowl champ.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
No, without a doubt.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
And what they've done for me lately is not look
like super Bowl champs.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And that's what's concerning because one of the things is
you know me, what's your identity? Okay, we're hard, nos,
we play defense great, Okay, at least we know.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
If the offense is struggling, you can lean on that.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Great example, and I was telling Rob g this a
couple of times when you were out roped, was that
at least the.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
Texans can hang their hat on that cee.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
They stroud struggling, But we keep being in games because
of our defense not winning. What does that mean? So
why but they winning? What I'm saying, so at least
we at least at least even if we don't win.
My point is you at least can say half of
the one of the halfs of the what you need.
The defense and offense we have locked down. They don't
(02:44):
have that right now. So what the Eagles. That's what
makes it really interesting is that if you could say, well,
shoot man, defense is sucking right now, but at least
we got Lamar and Dereck Henry. Our offense is great.
That's not the case with the Eagles, and that's what
makes us.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
So that's good that they lose and give up forty
points every night, but you got doc Ke next. Is strange.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
So if you look at the offense, right now. Total
offense is thirtieth. Do you how do you only get
two hundred and sixty one yards in a total game.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Passing thirty first rushing at least we can hang our
hat on that.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
No, you can't. Twenty fifth.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Then you go to the defensive side of the ball.
Total defense twentieth, twenty sixth rush defense. They're not stopping anybody.
They're seventeenth in scoring, so people can score on them.
It's just very strange right now for a reigning champ
to not have an identifiable trait.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
That is what makes this really weird. Usually, if you
look at the Kansas City Chiefs last year, where I
heard you diss on them for an.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Entire year, but yet they won. Yet the Eagles you
keep defending. But what I'll add to that was, at
least they could say we're down receivers, we're down for checker,
we're down our running backs.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
The Eagles have their full roster.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You have the maybe on paper, the best two receivers
as far as the tandem. Then you have a running
back which should be top one, two three offensive line,
a quarterback who's been there for years. So this is
what makes it strange, rob is that what is going on?
And now you have DeVante Smith and at.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
One thing, do you have a new offensive coordinator who's
never called plays?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
So then why is the defense back?
Speaker 6 (04:15):
I'm just asking you why the offensive and defensive line
aren't the same as they were last year?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
It was an all time both of them. And concerned.
Speaker 6 (04:26):
Okay, you're concerned as to what They're not going to
make the playoffs, they have no shot.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I'm asking you what are you concerned about? What's what's
your concern?
Speaker 3 (04:37):
What that one?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
If you let me get it out, Okay, tell me
if I'm a J. Brown, if you see why you're
saying what is wrong with the offense. We're going to
need to be able to score to win games, and
they cannot score the ball? Is they giving them thirty
four points to the one and four giants as well?
Or if they fumble the ball or give the ball
up or throw a bad pick like those are the
things that go into the game as well, and you
(05:00):
can't act like those things didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
And my only routine what they do. And that's my
point that there's certain things.
Speaker 6 (05:08):
It's just like the Ravens when they gave up those
games with big time fumbles in the worst opportunity of
the worst moments of situations. It didn't correct anything, or
if it didn't happen, it probably would have won two
more games.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
My only point is, what is your concern?
Speaker 6 (05:23):
Are they not gonna make the play terrible?
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Okay? Can they get better? Can they get better?
Speaker 6 (05:30):
On?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
This is their team?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Is what I'm asking you. Yes, you know the first
thirty so yeah, gonna make the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (05:41):
That what you're gonna tell me is that what you're
telling me you're doing I'm telling you, Oh my god,
the Eagles are awful.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
My god, they can't win a game. Oh yeah, there wow.
But then realize yourself.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
And they look they simply look concerned. What are you concerns?
Your concerned? What are yours? Is that horrible? No, that's
not the concern. That's not the concern.
Speaker 6 (06:19):
The concern is that they can't get better because Jalen
Hurts is not good enough, because their offensive line is
not good enough, because their defense isn't good enough. That's
a concern, not that you played a poor game a
week or.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Every game. That's what I'm asking you.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Then you're saying that Jalen Hurts can't get better and
that they're doomed.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
Is that what you're saying.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
It's a very simple Parker, say whatever you want to say.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
No, I would say soever, I would say, I do
not say anything.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
I don't. I'm not concerned. I don't have concerns. That
is my answer.
Speaker 7 (07:02):
Concern going to the playoff, players going to win the division,
and just like when we went to the Super Bowl, Oh,
Jalen Hurts, if he has to throw the ball, I'm
concerned they won't be able to win because Jalen Hurts
is this.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
And that and in their offense, and.
Speaker 8 (07:20):
He was the VP that game, was the MVP man
they needed to be the best part about this is
here's the best part about it. At least one thing
I could say is daggd, I'm consistent because you set
up here for an entire year telling me about the Chiefs,
and the Chiefs said, I told you, Chiefs said two.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
Years you weren't here.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
One of those jaims about two year, I wasn't here.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
It was one you told me for two years, and
they got they're not the same and the.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Eagles and the Eagles aren't the same team.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
At all.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That's exactly my point, but you ignore that that the
Eagles are not the same team. That's exactly my point,
that the Chiefs aren't the same team, but the Eagles
aren't the Eagles. Look, but you can't tell me what
you're concerned about. You that you can't win, or you
can't get back to the super Bowl, or you can't
make the playoffs. They're not getting back to the super Bowl.
(08:15):
I said that, yes, okay, they're not getting to the
super Bowl. Absolutely not getting back to the super Bowl.
That that is, that's not happening. But the fact that
you were watching this team and acting like this is normal.
Teams that get to the Super Bowl win have top
five offenses, at least top.
Speaker 6 (08:29):
I saw the Lions throw five interceptions in the game,
and you know what, they happen to win that game
against the Texans. But I didn't go, oh my god,
there's no way they're gonna win the Lions a game
they did no.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
I know, in a game the same team that would
ballistic offensively.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
A team no.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And then and then what happened the biggest game and
the biggest game of the year.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
He threw three And that's why I told you.
Speaker 6 (08:57):
I was never all about Jared Golf because I seen
that Jared Golf.
Speaker 3 (09:01):
That's all My point is.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
My point is, at that point, you didn't write off
the Lions because Jared Goff through five interceptions?
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Did you know? You didn't because they weren't.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
In fact, they were first in office different.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
It showed you about what he has the potential to do.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Just the bad have a bad game. My point is,
this has been a bad year. How can you sit
up here and act like this isn't a bad year?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
And I told you I don't have a concern level.
That's the difference between me and you. You're concerned. I'm
not concerned. This is a buff in the row that
figure it out. They have way too many good players that.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
They won't get it figured out. Everything. Okay, they're gonna
figure it out. Okay, you're telling me they're not gonna win.
Are they gonna win the division?
Speaker 1 (09:46):
No?
Speaker 3 (09:46):
Who you got in the division? Who's winning the division? Washington?
They can very well. I'm asking you, is that who
you're picking Washington to win the division? I'm not I'm not.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Sitting up here telling who's gonna win. I'm telling you
where they are today.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
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Speaker 3 (10:46):
So, if you.
Speaker 4 (10:47):
Watch the game, you saw late in the third quarter
that Jackson Dark took a shot and he had to
get taken to the Blue Medical tend to be evaluated
for a concussion, which you may or may not have
seen during the broadcast, though, was that Brian Dable, head
coach of the Giants, followed Dart into the blue tent
because he wanted to see what was going on and
he had a big fourth down call coming up, but
(11:07):
he wanted to know if he's gonna have his quarterback
or not.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Later, he was.
Speaker 4 (11:11):
Seen getting real we'll say, animated with the team doctor
about what's going on with Jackson Dart. Ultimately, Dart was
clear to return to play. He ended up missing two
plays later. What they say was coincidental. I don't know
what that's supposed to mean, but as a result of
the whole ordeal, the NFL and the PA are both
investigating the situation to determine whether or not Brian Dabele
(11:34):
and the New York Giants violated the concussion Protocol. In fact,
things got so bad that the Giants owner John Marra
had to come out and say that he's talked to
coach day Ball and that while he agrees with Daball
that he wasn't trying to influence the doctor to allow
him to get dark to play.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Him going into ten number one is inappropriate. At number two,
it was.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
Just a bad look for all parties involved.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
And I'm with the owner. I'm serious.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
It was a bad look and he gave coaches a
bad name. And he's the worst kind of coach because
while their job is to try to win the game,
and I get all that and play, the only thing
that matters more than winning the game is the health
of the players. And this exchange is angry exchange with
(12:23):
the doctor, as if that was going to oh, okay,
oh coach, what am I thinking? Put the kid back
in without me checking him more or whatever. Kelvin, That's
not what this is about. That's why there's protocol. And
that's why I've always had a problem with doctors being
team doctors and paid by the team. They should be independent,
(12:44):
paid by the National Football League.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Do you do? You know what I'm saying, so.
Speaker 6 (12:48):
That they don't have to fear like, oh, the coach
is gonna I can't get the players on the field
fast enough for whatever, So they're gonna next year, they're
gonna let me go and go get somebody out exactly.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
No.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
And and and I think when you're getting paid by somebody,
you feel compelled.
Speaker 3 (13:05):
And and the that was that was grandstanding? Who was
that for? That was for the cameras. I want my guy. Hey, Doc,
he wasn't doing the bugs, bunny, what's up?
Speaker 10 (13:17):
Doc?
Speaker 6 (13:19):
He was actually like trying to intimidate the doctor. No,
I'm gonna do the correct protocol. I'm going to see
if this kid is okay before we put him back
out there.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
It looked bad. It was not a good look for
Brian Dabo.
Speaker 6 (13:39):
And thank god the Players Association, which you know I
always have issue with, is looking into it along.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
With the NFL and if and if they if they
talked to him and.
Speaker 6 (13:49):
Find out or the doctor says, yeah, he was yelling
at me telling me to get him back out there,
and also says or whatever, he needs to be fine
because that that's a bad look and they should send
that video to all the coaches with an email.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
This will not be tolerated.
Speaker 5 (14:04):
He got over he got over zealous, rob a couple
of ways.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
One if he just went in the tent and ultimately
did realize I shouldn't have.
Speaker 5 (14:13):
But I was just chaying, baby, all right, you good
in there?
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (14:15):
Baby, you know, like yeah, just checking it. We could
all go, hey, you shouldn't be in there, but we
can understand. You can't double up and compound that, we're
having a whole mental breakdown on the sideline, going off
on the doctor.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Like what was that?
Speaker 5 (14:28):
The doctor's looking like, what did I do wrong?
Speaker 7 (14:30):
Like?
Speaker 3 (14:33):
And why are you yelling at me?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
And the funniest part is I laughed because I said, dang,
is Russell Wilson this bad?
Speaker 5 (14:40):
That you're going crazy on the doc for a couple
of plays.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
You can't say you.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
Can't do a drive, you can't do one quarter where
you know, hey, hold it down, Let's make sure our guy,
Jackson Dart is okay.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
And he took it too far again.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
I understand the human nature, the you know, the element
that makes you want to go check on your guy
while you're not supposed to. I think we can at
least understand that, Hey, go check it in till you
are right.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
You okay, You're good. I can understand that.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
But to have a whole breakdown on the sideline was
a bad look for him because it just didn't make sense,
especially knowing what the league is trying to at least
do when it comes to concussions.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And keep in mind, one of.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
The unfortunate faces of this is Tua and I think
there's you know, we're all more aware of it because
we've seen quarterbacks get hit a lot as specifically too
over the last two three years.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
He's got to become the poster child for this.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
And Dawn is reckless.
Speaker 6 (15:29):
I'm running in the defenders like sticking his head in
and that's what I'm saying, Like he's reckless and he's
not gonna have a long career if he keeps doing that.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
He's gotta go calm that down. He's gotta go talk
to Jalen. Jayden Daniels was great at sliding. Russell Wilson
is great. Actually, he should be asking him. His teammate,
Russell Wilson played baseball. He knows how to slide. Absolutely,
He's great slide and getting out of the way. So
he's gonna have to because he is scatterable, buy into
the by any means necessary run and it's you know,
(16:00):
running into anybody playing years three years.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Exactly, and it won't last.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
And if Jackson Dart is as good as he thinks
he is, and what is going to mean to this
team with fans day ball and everybody hopes that he is,
They're gonna need him and he's gonna have to check
that at the door. I love the athleticism. I love
that he runs, and that's what the modern quarterback is.
In fact, I was telling Rob g I think Jared
Goff is gonna be like the last of the Mohicans,
(16:26):
as they say, the last person to kind of your
traditional drop back quarterback, because if you look around the league,
everybody runs at least a little bit, So Jared Goff's
like the last. I ain't running nowhere, I'm just throwing
the ball and Jackson dart is that. I like that
he ran for sixty something yards I believe it was,
and obviously got a touchdown running, but he's gotta be
more careful. But as far as Dave Ball, yeah, he's
(16:48):
probably gonna end up getting some similance of a.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Fine from where he deserves a fine, whether it.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Be the team, he's gonna get a fine because you
can't again, Rob, you can't compound it, you can't go
into booth, and you can't have a He went crazy
on the Doc and I was weirded out by that, Like,
why are you mad at the doctor? Guy?
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I've been watching the NFL.
Speaker 6 (17:06):
I'm seriously since I was a kid and obviously covering
it since nineteen eighty seven.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
I've never seen a coach go after a doctor. It
was so weird, have you no? And you know what
that was, I've never seen it. That was we're rolling.
My guy's playing good. We got a chance to you know,
we got them on the rope. Now heat my guy
out there, and he ignored he ignored the protocol, which again, dude,
(17:34):
he might be right back out there. Take it easy, relax,
and if he's as good as you think he is,
and he's what you all hope he'll be, you're gonna
want him for eight to twelve years.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
So take it easy on this particular game.
Speaker 1 (17:46):
But he got caught so caught up and trying to
win the singular game that he almost could have potentially
messed around and lost the battle.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
All right, we should we should announce that we are
back officially live on YouTube.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
So we are. H we had some new cameras put in, Yeah,
we got some new care so that's what the delayed.
Speaker 6 (18:06):
These are really nice cameras. Can one of these fit
in my bag? I'm just trying to figure this out.
Speaker 5 (18:12):
Well, you gont to just take it.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
You don't ask, then you ask for permission later oh forgiveness.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
I mean, oh yeah, very very nice.
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Uh eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Yeah, this was unusual, and I don't know. I get
your point.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
You're rolling, you don't want anything to change, but it
just felt like there was some grand standing.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
No, he went on the side of the sideline.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
Part again, I'd be willing to give him ulligain to
the tent.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
You know, you're just your natural healing, is what he
was like, jawing at the doctor like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
That part was like, Okay, what's going on there? The
doctor didn't tackle him. The doctor the like what did
I do?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Why?
Speaker 5 (18:49):
I'm sitting here just doing my job. That part was weird.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
That part was please please, please please please put my
guy in please please.
Speaker 3 (18:56):
I need him. We're winning, we're winning, we're winning. We
don't win a lot of games.
Speaker 5 (18:59):
I need help.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
Ye I got back in there. Please please.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
That's what that was.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Yeah, that was just not a good look.
Speaker 6 (19:04):
And I'm not surprised and it'll be interesting to see,
but I'm sure they'll be an email to all coaches.
Speaker 3 (19:12):
I'm convinced that they're gonna get a video.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
You know what, the league get video, They get players
get video and hits and whatnot.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yeah, video is gonna come out. And it just says
that this is not what the protocol.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Oh real quick, Rob, I want to throw this at
you because you had mentioned it. One of the things
that they did have in there. They do the only
persons allowed in the ten is the player, the team doctor,
and an.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
Independent Okay, so there you go. So they do have it.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
And I wanted I meant to tell.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
You, ear he so he doesn't this, he's not he
can't even go into ten.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
Its correct, That's where the whole thing that's.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh no, he's got he's got a fine. Then come yeah,
you can't come. You can't come in the ten.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
The only three people are allowed the player, the team doctor,
and an an independent doctor. And then and then the sideline,
you know, melt down too. So I think those two things,
some type of fifty five thousand dollars fine is gonna
come down.
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Speaker 3 (20:08):
Rob G we want you to set up this forty
nine Ers thing for us.
Speaker 6 (20:15):
The forty nine ers seem to be having success even
without their starting quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
What does this say to us?
Speaker 4 (20:23):
It says you would think they got a quarterback controversy
on their hands.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
That's what it sounds like.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Right, And there's there's a conversation, right, and they even
had to come out and speak on it.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
John Lynch did his weekly appearance on KMBR and he
was asked about whether or not the incredible play, honestly
of mac Jones, giving the injuries, given him being banged up,
him being undefeated, if that's caused any kind of tension
you know in the quarterback room, because you know it
is brock Perty's team. But Mac Jones has been flat
(20:54):
out better than brock Perty so far on these young season.
And Lynch shot it down, and then he added quote,
I wholeheartedly believe that brock is nothing but happy for
our team. He just working his tail off to try
to get back.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
I'm gonna say this, Kelvin, if I'm the forty nine Ers,
I want to refund on brock Purty. I never loved
the idea of paying mister irrelevant.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
I don't care what the numbers were. I don't care.
What have we learned about the forty nine ers.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Anybody you seem to put in there, they seem to
excel am I lying.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
No, there's that could be that's true, there's some truth
to that.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
It doesn't matter who they put in. It just seemed
like they're still rolling. The offense is good enough. And
now you're looking and MATC. Jones looks like a well
oiled machine. What in the world, why would you be?
Speaker 3 (22:00):
Uh?
Speaker 6 (22:01):
Rock Purty put him back in? Really, yeah, he put
him back in, of course because he's got all the
you know, you paid him all the money and all that,
and and normally you don't lose your job on injury.
But I'm just saying, if I'm a forty nine Ers
fan or the front office, don't you start to question
whether it really was rock party or what we they?
(22:23):
When I say we, you know, the front offense, I
got you. Yeah, what they've set up because they went
to the Super Bowl. They've they've had four quarterbacks, right,
and they just keep rolling.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
I don't know, no that listen. I think a couple
of things can be true.
Speaker 3 (22:41):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (22:42):
I think Kyle Shanahan is very, very talented as an
offensive mind.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
We've seen that even in Atlanta.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
He can't close the game, I'll give you that, but
he's very talented as an offensive mine. And that's a
compliment to him that when things get a little shaky,
he's able to put in somebody. Jimmy g s get
to a super Bowl. He got to a super Bowl
with him, right, get to Jimmy g get to a
super Bowl. Brock Perdy comes in same thing, NFC Championship
game as well.
Speaker 5 (23:08):
I mean, this guy has been productive.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
I think the difference for me was specifically between these
two guys. Mac Jones is a perfect guy to have
as a backup. We know you and I set up
here after week one going into week two. I believe
it was what did we say, Man, don't you hate
all these backups? Because there was like five to six
starting quarterbacks around, and we're like, you get all excited.
Speaker 5 (23:27):
About these games. Football's back, baby, whoa?
Speaker 1 (23:30):
And he starters around When we talked about that, a
little bit of the luster is gone. So having Matt
Jones makes me happy. If I'm a fan of the
forty nine ers, you know, or if I'm a part
of the organization because I got a guy that we
feel comfortable with having a spot of three, four or
five six games in a season. But ultimately, Brock Purdy
has to me earn this money with them. He's twenty
(23:50):
four and fourteen in his career, He's been to a
super Bowl, He's played well in games, he's won big
games for you. In fact, you don't even get to
a super Bowl if you know with you know, you
lose to the Lions in then MC Championship game. That game,
I've said before, I think earned That's what got him
that money because the way he led that team in
that second half day.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
It was also a choke by Detroit.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I mean, I believe it. A part of that was
them seeing that.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
I mean he has to still make Yeah, he had
to still make plays.
Speaker 5 (24:16):
And I hear your point absolutely the four I mean
the Lions.
Speaker 6 (24:19):
The Lions scored one of two field goals brock Proty.
Speaker 5 (24:22):
What field goal? What's the phield? Dan Campbell?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
But you know, but you know what I mean, if
they would have made one or two field goals, brock Proty,
they would have lost.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I'm screw listen, played Town l a with you know,
and you know this, you live here. Eighty five percent
of the people there are forty nine ers fans, maybe
ten percent of just there for a good time.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
I must have been sick in the first half.
Speaker 1 (24:45):
In ar And you know the entire city of Detroit
was booking at their uh their tickets to Vegas that year.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Yeah, because they were texting me and then calling spirit.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
I mean that's the other way they would.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
So bring it up to say I'm screaming early.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
I said, got to take the three, and all my
Lions fans looked at me, Nah, this is what we do. No, no, no,
you gotta take the three. Because this is a different game.
This is for right to go to the super Bowl.
This ain't Week eight. I get that, Okay, this is
for a chance to go to super Bowl. So I'm
with you on that. But my point with Brock is
that game we said, man, I didn't realize he could
run like that.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I didn't realize he was that tough.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
I didn't realize he could make these big types of plays,
and he did that. So I think it's a compliment
that they got their guy in Brock Purdy.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He's not overly paid.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
He's right about where he's been if you're going based
off of success, because you can look at him and
compare him to other guys who haven't done anything as
far as the accolades and success he's had, and they're
making more than him. So he's right around where he
needs to be paid. And again they found their guy.
John Lynch talked about that. He said, this is a
guy that is right on the perfect balance of confident
(25:50):
but humble.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
And they got to me, you have a great scenario.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
I'm not convinced. I'm not convinced to win the super
Bowl with Brock Purdy. And my point is only that
no matter who they seem to put in there, they
seem to have offensive success. And at some point you
keep looking at that and saying, did we really you
know what I mean, did we really really have to
pay him?
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Did we? So? What do you do? Real question? I'm
really just what do you like?
Speaker 1 (26:15):
Do you just keep running out of a Jimmy g
for he's gone, uh Jones for your two next time?
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Some point you got to settle in with somebody.
Speaker 6 (26:24):
Right now, because sometimes you have to have Remember you're
not winning three four super Bowls. You're not You're trying
to win one. The forty nine ers are desperate to
win one. I'm just looking at Mac Jones. He's got,
he's got. He had three hundred and forty.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Two yards right against.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
Eighty four, two seventy nine, six touchdowns, only one interception.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
That that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (26:48):
I'm not really like like trying to over simplify it.
But they continue to get quarterback play no matter who's
in there.
Speaker 1 (26:59):
So I just wonder, well, there's how much of the
system Trey Lance is sitting here somewhere and saying he play,
He plays ten snaps, He's played ten guys, What about me?
Speaker 3 (27:10):
How many? How many? How many games did he really play?
Speaker 10 (27:13):
What?
Speaker 6 (27:13):
How many complete? How many passes did Trey Lance have? Seriously,
he only played a game in Chicago and maybe one
or two other games.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
I don't think he didn't play. Well, I'm saying in
him no, no, But I'm just other seasons.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
So what I'm saying he didn't play, I don't I
remember a game in Chicago in the rain. That's all
I remember. I don't remember. Maybe he had two other games.
I mean one hundred and two attempts that was what
he had.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
So that rounds about anywhere from three to four games.
Speaker 3 (27:46):
So probably Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
I think it's a compliment to Kyle Shanahan again that
he's able to get the most out of guys. But
I think they are absolutely secure when you talk to
those when you hear from all those teams, man, they
love brod Party like the teammates to play they are.
They love that guy, And so to me, that's a
good thing. I got a guy who's going to be
praid properly for you.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
You don't need to know.
Speaker 6 (28:05):
That sounds cool, but I want somebody who can play,
whether I like him or not.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
Dude, it's twenty four and fourteen, it's been in a
Super Bowl, NFC Championship game.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
I'm just saying yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
But my point is that that's just extra like you're
talking about. Oh, they like him. He said that they
like Justin Fields in Pittsburgh. Dude, the Jets like Justin Fields.
Now when they look at him, he's a nice guy.
Oh he's a great guy. We're going five. He can't
throw the ball down field. Oh, we love Justin Fields.
I mean, I think that that's just a franchise guy.
(28:35):
We well, they signed him. But I'm just saying the likability.
If you're playing well, people like you. If you don't,
then there's probably some issues.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Matt Jones to me, again, he ain't did nothing wrong.
He's doing exactly what he's supposed to do. But I
do also feel like, is there there's a ceiling Whereas
with Rock Perdy with the twenties athleticism and again in
his toughness and his leadership, I feel like that's the
so I.
Speaker 6 (28:58):
Feel like they're not going to win a super Bowl
with him, Rock Purty, who is who's winning the Super
Bowl this year?
Speaker 1 (29:04):
I don't say anything. Nobody ever wins the Super Bowl
with you?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Do know that?
Speaker 6 (29:08):
Right wide open? No, I had what are you talking about?
I had Jalen Hurts winning it last year. I had
Jalen Hurts. And when everybody was saying that just stop
say quant and you'll stop him.
Speaker 3 (29:20):
I didn't buy into that.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
J I said, James, I'm saying a guy that's like,
that's Jalen Hurts was going to the Super Bowl right
right we were.
Speaker 3 (29:28):
We were just's who you picked.
Speaker 1 (29:29):
What I'm saying is like justin Herbert brock Purdy go like, nobody,
Josh is Josh.
Speaker 3 (29:35):
Allen going to Super Bowl at some point. No.
Speaker 5 (29:38):
See, That's what I'm saying, Like, no, is he gonna win?
Speaker 3 (29:41):
Is probably the question. Is he gonna win a Super Bowl?
I mean I'm not I'm not convinced about that. Who is?
Give me four or five guys. They're on four or
five guys. That's the problem.
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