October 14, 2025 • 26 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why they’ve been so disappointed with the play of Shohei Ohtani during the MLB Postseason, discuss why Mike McDaniel (and Tua Tagovailoa?) needs to go in Miami, and debate whether Dawn Staley is right when she says we won’t see a female NBA head coach in our lifetimes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Show.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hey is a no show? Seriously one for twenty and
guess what off of reputation? They keep walking him in
front of Mookie, and Mookie keeps getting walked and walking
in a run.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Pitch to the guy.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Make him earn his keep, Make him earn that seven
hundred million dollar contract that they're paying him for. Last year,
he struggled and they won his bite. They won the
World Series where he didn't pitch and he didn't hit.
This year, they're winning, trying to get back to the
World Series, trying to win back to back for the
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first time since the Yankees did it in ninety nine
two thousand and This dude is a no show. What
has happened? You've seen some of the swings. Somebody at
bats hell, Look is this on show?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Show up? Earn your keep, get some knocks.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Enough already riding the wave of everybody else and hiding.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
That's what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Go ahead, defend him, Dodger Homer, Wait heard them, I'm
about to go full Robbie Cochran.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's what I call you, your honor. I heard what the
prosecution have to say, but me, as the defense team,
I would like to say, I object to the way
in which you are belittling the fact that the man
was walked three times.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's a massive part of success.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
If I walk back Bonds, if I'm walking, Mike Trout,
if I'm watching walking, Mark cguire, if I'm walking whoever
you wanted to be, and now in this case show hey,
o Tani, that's a massive part.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You can't. Can you say this with a straight face?
Hold on? Okay, hit me again, false, okay, hit me
with the law and order. I'm not done now. Listen.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The benefit that he also has is that it could
potentially be another two weeks. And this is what I mean.
Don't cover the no you said, James Franklin. Okay, listen.
The best part about this is what'sn't ahead of him,
meaning they have minimally seven games if they were to
go to the World Series in either team won. But
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he has minimum seventeen three to win this series and
then uh you know for in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh there sweeping the World Series minimally even if they
were to lose.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm saying, but my point is he has a chance
to continue to produce. And I can't lie he ain't
showed up right now. It has definitely been no, hey,
no tany right now. I can't even deny he didn't
even just this year last last year.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Last year is bad.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
This year is even worse. No, but all jokes aside,
he's performed badly. Uh, they have walked in so that
that has an advantage for him, the Dodgers. But here
here's the other thing too. It's not just the Robs,
just the one for twenty one. It's that how they're
taking full advantage of him on the inside, and he's
swinging at everything on the inside, swinging everything in the inside.
They and they have found that that he can't resist
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that he's swinging uncharacteristically bad at some things.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's striking out.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He's usually he doesn't have bad outs, even if you know, yay,
it's part of baseball. You're gonna you hit thirty percent
of something, you're gonna be good. He is having bad
at bats at times, which is unusual. Now this is
where he has the benefit. He still has so many
games ahead of him that we could potentially forget these
first couple of weeks. If he ends up batten you know,
four hundred, the rest of the rest of the postseason,
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few home runs, a couple of big plays here that
maybe steals the base, whatever may be, and we can
forget that because that's just human nature. Dodgers win the
World Series second half was better for him. All will
be forgotten. What he has been bad I cannot deny.
There's no argument he has been bad. The only other
point I make is if he's they slayd him to
get on the mound. Later this series, he gets on
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the mound, he gets no the opposite he throws six,
he throws seven, he throws five. But possibility, that is
a possibility. That also is what makes him this unicorn
and what can save him. So if he goes out
there and throws a six inning gym, maybe a hit
or two, but you know, no runs, goes out there
seven k's again, this is why you paid the man
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seven hundred million dollars, so that thankfully the other side
of the coin is working because.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I can't deny it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
The at bats right now, I am fabulous and Nate Dogg,
I can't deny it. It is bad right now. There's
no way around it. And the best thing for him
is that his team keeps winning. That keeps giving him
more chances, more at bats, and more opportunities to rewrite this,
because I can't sit up here and act like if
this wasn't and Judge, we'll be having some conversations. Hey,
you good, this was a Rod in his run with
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the with the Yankees. We'll be having conversations. Is this
for Mookie? Let's say it was Mookie prior to show
hey coming when he was the big star. We will
be having this conversation. So he absolutely deserves some concern.
He absolutely deserves some criticism right now. But fortunately for him,
the Dodgers keep winning and he has more opportunities to
change the narrative.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But he has to start tonight again.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Last year, I point last week, I should say, I
pointed out that the Dodgers bullpen had a chubby e
r Ra right in the eighth inning. Well, Otani is
the opposite as far as that. His postseason batting average
is a spelt one thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's hey, we all headphone eight no one eight, all.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Right, we want to hear from you. Eight seven seven
come on, so hey ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I've been fighting for you. This man been downing you
all ye, I've been having your back all year. Hit
me with a law and order.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Are we waiting? Are you waiting for show hat to
show up? Because there's been two postseasons?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Now? What? What? What's the deal? You have another baby?
Am I missing something? Show? Hey? How disappointing? Are you
and watching show? Hal Tony? And is he not a
postseason guy?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Maybe he's a regular season guy that maybe he can't
perform in those big moments those six years he was
in Anaheim. He never had to get a chance to
play in the playoffs. Maybe he's not a postseason guy.
That Dodgers won a championship last year where he struggled
at the plate.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay, an extra dip on your chips. Okay, he hit
two thirty last year. They would die to have him
at two thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
This year he's one hundred, almost one hundred points lower
than he was last year, and he was batter.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Know what for you? And Rob g Okay. The best
part about put the camera on me.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The best part about it is he's gonna have at
least seven more games. He's gonna bat four hundred, hit
three to four home runs, and all will be forgotten.
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Speaker 3 (07:33):
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Speaker 7 (07:39):
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the Warriors will be the marquee game. He was talking
about no Lebron in that one, but uh yes, NBA
Opening Night in a week. Today, though Don Staley met
with the media for SEC Media Days, her Game Cocks
are ranked number two in the nation entering the season.
They are the current dynasty in me it's college sports,
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and lest we forget, we were this close away from
that dynasty being over because Don Staley interviewed for the
vacant New York Knicks head coaching gig after they fired
Tom Thibodeaux before they hired Mike Brown, and it was
reported at the time nobody really believed until she said, no,
I interviewed for the job. I met with world Wide West,
(08:24):
I met with Leon Rose. I really respect those guys,
and they just, you know, the decision that wasn't made.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It is what it is.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Well today at SEC Media Days, she was asked about
the idea of women coaching in the NBA, especially at
the head level, and here's what she said.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
If I'm the nixed coach and you have a five
game losing streak, it's not going to be about the
losing streak. It's going to be about being a female coach.
So you as an organization and a franchise. You have
to be prepared for that and strong enough to endure
those type of instances when you're gonna look for or
hire a female coach, Do.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You think it'll happen in your lifetime where women's coach
but no woman is.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
I don't, and I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I don't know. I'm gonna say I think it will happen.
I'm gonna go to the opposite only because I think basketball,
of all the sports, is very viable where you look
at a woman having played basketball at a certain level
and then coach. I can't see a woman as a
managed baseball manager hardball.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Not soft like football. No, you know what I mean.
I can't. I really can't. And it doesn't mean that
they couldn't know.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
About football being a some sort of coach or you know,
like that same. I know women play hockey too aboon
that level, but basketball is apples to apples, it really is.
The game is for the most part and more fundamentally sound.
When you say women, where can metamore athletic and above
the rim and all that kind of stuff and and
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and whatnot. So I'm not positive I agree with her
that it's not gonna happen in her lifetime. I mean,
I didn't think that we'd see a black president in
the United States. I gotta be it, my honest, I
do that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
No, but I didn't. I really, I really didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But I didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You might be right, but my point is, uh, if
there is a sport and and and she might be
right that they're not ready to do it now, you
know what I mean. But to say never, I just
think basketball, women's basketball, men's basketball. Men coach women's basketball
left and right, right. You don't have to be a
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female to coach women's basketball. And I get it, it's
a male dominated business and sports and whatnot. But there
was something missing because Becky Hammond's was was on that
track to be a head coach in the NBA. She
was pop picked, her made, he put on the bench
with the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
She interviewed with a.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Couple of teams like like, and for whatever reason, nobody
pulled the trigger on her. I don't know if it
was something about her, you know what I mean, once
she got in there, you know that people like that
who should be coaches, who's the guy for the for
the Lakers forever? He finally got rob g finally got
a head coach Byron Scott. No, who's the other guy
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was on the he was on what era with? He
was with Phil Jackson and he just could not Oh
my god, I cannot.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Remember that called a long time.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
He finally didn't he finally get a head coach job.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You know who that is?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Sam Cassell?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Okay, Sam Cassell, there's another guy like Okay, he's being
paid his everybody's like Sam and whatever reason he's interviewed
for some jobs. They don't pull a trigger on Sam Cassel.
And they didn't pull a trigger on Becky Hammond's even
though she was set up for it. Like the rest
coach at the time in the NBA is like all
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in on her, the endorsements, giving her a job that
no other woman had had on an NBA team, responsibility
when he was out, she coached, you know what I mean,
like everything, And it didn't happen in San Antonio, and
it didn't happen anywhere else. But do I really I
think that of all the sports, it could happen in
basketball because the games are so close? Are they ready
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right now?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Dawn said not in her lifetime. I disagree with that.
I strongly disagree with the in my lifetime. I absolutely
believe it's gonna happen. I believe it might happen in
the next decade. A couple of reasons why now. I
do think current political climate may need to change. That's
I'm gonna say about that. But there's a couple of
reasons why the NBA Number one, The NBA is the
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most progressive of all the leagues.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They usually try to be forward thinking. They try to
be ahead of the curb and certain things socially, politically,
and all those kind of things they try to do
that they've already integrated. It's almost like weird now if
you're an NBA team and you don't have a woman
on your your bench, you know, some type of coach,
some other assistant you know, whether film coach something, you're
some type of assistant coach. The Lakers here have in
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LA have one as well, maybe even more. But so
it's not far fetcher. And I think inherently you mentioned
it because it's skilled to skill, like hoop is hoop
is hoop. You grow up playing ball, Dude, if you
go to a local twenty four hour Fitness La Times.
Right now, there's gonna be a lady, a couple of
ladies out.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There playing, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you don't think toy like Joe. She can hoop,
let's go hoop. She can shoot, she can shut, and
it's just natural.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I grew up. You're plenty of.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like when I played Nancy Lieberman in that game exactly.
And you know what Nancy Lieberman is coaching in the
Big Three. You led me to where I was gonna go.
Nancy Lieberman is coaching in the Big Three wins is
very volidle and hostile and tough and aggressive and because
that's how they promote the league, and she's doing her
thing there.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You couldn't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Dawn Staley, Cheryl Miller, Doris Burke, God blessed that past summer.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
All there's a Hot Summit, I.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Mean Pat Summitat Pat Summit, there's a whole list of
folks that if they, dude, if I was in college
and r NBA and that was my coach, I'd be
don't even think to it. But I was coach Becky Hammond,
because you know, they know the game. Diana Tarassi, if
she all of a Sudden became a coach, If Sue
Bird became a coach, you'd be like, all right, whatever,
And it might be a little weird, and just because
you grew up with men, and there's certain little things
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like you naturally think you got an arm around the coach,
you walk in the locker room, maybe there you know,
I don't know the rules, and maybe a little different.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I get that that's just human nature.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But ultimately I think you get over and I think
the NBA is very progressive in that regard. I fully
expect within the next ten years or so for someone
to do that. I think someone's gonna want to show
how bald they are, want to lead the pack, want
to give someone a chance. And you're you're right that
we all kind of thought Becky Hammond was on that track,
so it was shocking to see that she hasn't. But
she's still coaching very well in the w NBA, so
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very well could end up being getting that opportunity because
she's doing her thing in the WNBA, winning championships as well.
So football, there's a physicality, there's a machismo, there's a
man thing. I think that won't allow it to happen right,
because the highest every high there's a few high school
players around the country that have a women athletes, girl,
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young girls, young women.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But it's not like a thing.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
There's more flag football, softball, Yeah, you play, but it
ain't baseball. You can hear it, and it's in baseball
for different sport, different mindset, different era. Has been around
for so long, and again I just think they'll be
slowly to slow to adapt that basketball is just not
crazy at all. And again Nancy Lieberman that it's a
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really big thing that she's doing the Big three, because
to me it's another Big three is in the NBA.
But you need somebody to start slowly doing it. Then
you need a smaller school, not maybe like a smaller
d one like I went to Eastern Michigan. Right, you
need an Almah, the smaller d one Eastern Michigan to
have a coach, and then you start inching your way up.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But I don't I don't think it's far fetched.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think in Don Staley, by the way, while she's
talking about it might not be in my lifetime. Don Staley,
you might get tapped on the shoulder again.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Maybe the next coach at Wisconsin Green Bay could be
a woman.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's very possible. What are you saying, next, coach, It
could be like five years too. Yeah, Yeah, that's what
I'm thinking. It'd be more like that, something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
A few weeks ago, Rob there were conversations and there
were some reports about the end of last season, how
it ended for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
What's been going on.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You have former players talking about what's happening in the
locker room. You and I talked about it a bit.
One of the concerns that I had with Mike McDaniels
is trying to be the cool coach, trying to be
the players coach too much, especially when you haven't won anything,
I think can be dangerous. We all want to be that,
we all want to be liked, and they had start
to struggle a bit, and they started we started hit
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reports that you had Jalen Ramsey, you had Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
They weren't showing up, They're missing.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Practices, they're showing up late to meetings or not coming
at all and you obviously had all the issues with
Tyreek where he left, you know, talking out I want
to lead the team, I want to get out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Then he has to come back. They had to have
a team meeting for that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then you had your leader in your quarterback say some
things the other day.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate
that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out
of the guys, right, we're expecting this, Are we getting that?
Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up
to only player only meetings late, guys not showing up
to player only meeting Like, there's a lot that goes
into that. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do
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we not have to make this mandatory? So it's it's
a lot of it's a lot of things of that
nature that we got to get cleaned up. And it
starts with the little things like that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, when I heard that, that was the moment I
realized he might need to update he's linked in because
it's one thing and you know this as as a
reporter for many years, it's one thing that was, no,
don't come over here to tell me abody've been doing
this since nineteen eighty something, I say, for a long time.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
And my point is.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's one thing to hear a rumor or report or
kind of some unknowing sources or some player that that happens,
and it very well could be true. But you can
say that's just outside noise. It was last year's players.
You can understand it. Even though we know after the
first game where they had the season players only meeting
right off the band. You can't start the season off
already having a players. I mean, that shows me there's
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some dysfunction in the off season. Tyreek Hill trying to
come back, they have to have a meeting about him.
That a whole bunch of stuff's going on. When your quarterback,
who is normally soft spoken, who is normally trying to
say the right thing, do the right thing, be a
podium guy, is screaming this. This is a major indictment
coming from you know, your the face of the franchise
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in this case, in your quarterback. And I think that
is an indictment on him. On my McDaniels. And this
is one time I will say losing is the issue,
because had they been winning right now, they're one and four.
If they were you know, three and two or something
or four and one, we might not be having this conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But you can't be losing.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And then when you start to look at the numbers
of where they are, they're in the bottom third of
offensive stats, are like twenty fifth, sixth seventh offensively, and
you cannot be that bad when the sign of what
you are. You were a wonder kid, you were the
the you know, the smart genius kid offensively, and they
had an amazing year in twenty twenty three. Put up
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a seventy piece. I thought it was the Miami heat plan.
And now our offensive terrible, offense is bad. Were down
to the bottom of the pack, and all of these
offensive stats and our own leader in a quarterback franchise,
quarterback is calling out leadership. That's that's It can't get
more damning to me, because it would be different if
you said that, but our offense was crazy. We're number
one in this number two and that number three, and
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that that's damning. Rob And I just think that the
riding is on the wall. And that's almost to me.
If it's as an agent, you're starting to feel calls,
you start to look for opportunities.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, when you don't win, if you're not a part
of the solution, you're a part of the problem. And
we talked about it before. I mean, sports is real simple.
I know it's cliche and I've said it a million times.
Sports has a short menu and this wins and losses,
and you're going to get fired when you don't win.
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Then one in five correct, five.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
One to five, Yeah, you're gonna get fired. And it's
this bad and it looks this bad and then they.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Coach it in like Doug told you, No, you're proud
of the problem. Yes, you're proud of the problem right now,
one and five. Like, I mean, you know, I know
some people said you are what your record says you are,
but I'm just saying, you know, don't do that, thanks Doug.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, he's setting some things up around there. They're
building something.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Time doesn't work, like you saying, my third fourth year,
I should already have it together.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yes, yes, you should have them together. You say, I'm offensive,
offense stinks nobody.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
We don't live that world anymore. And that's the big
thing there is there used to be. New coach came
in a five year plan, the quarterback would sit the
first couple of years. Those days are long, nobody, They're
not waiting for anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Every year.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You're retooling your team, trying to win. Now, what we
gotta do to try to win? Now? Right, you're not
you're in Cleveland. Let's bring the forty year old quarterback.
We need to win games. Now you're the Pittsburgh Steelers.
All right, we'll just we got a great story tradition.
We'll just rebuild. Let's get a young quarterback, let's go
for a couple of years, and then we'll be ready. No, No,
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nobody's doing that, because that's not where we are in
sports anymore. People are trying to do whatever they can
right now to give themselves the best chance to win.
When you're having issues with a coach not winning, and
now there's the other stuff that comes out, and you
know that, the dirty laundry always comes out when things
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on going. When you're winning, nobody's saying anything because basically,
for the most part, let's you're aj Brown, you're not
saying anything. But you get my point. So I'm not
shocked by this, not shocked by the conversation, not shocked
that people are out there and this stuff is happening,
and you're right McDonald, Well he'll be he'll he'll be
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whacked sooner than later. I don't know when is there
by rob guh. I have to look that up because
there might there might have been an opening coming up,
you know what I mean, after.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
The next game or so, where they might decide to
make a change or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It actually, uh, they they must have already had.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think they already had already. That's their bye. That's
too late? Is that the second Thankgiving? That's they ain't
had it? They got that. I mean they're about to
suffer and they got lost.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
They got they got like the last by right, I
mean November twenty third.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
My goodness, man, that about this is about to be
a brutal hill. You know what's crazy is we just
did back to back.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Satan's talking about the Bears and the Dolphins, right, and
the narratives around each team is so different. If Miami
can hold Justin Herbert from getting a forty yard completion
on third down, they win last week. If Jayden Daniels
doesn't fumble the ball with nobody touching him, the Bears
lose last night.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
The Bears won two weeks ago off of block.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Field goal against the Raiders, which they would have lost
that game too, And it's just interesting how they win.
Caleb Williams not really playing very well, they've been very sloppy,
but they win and it's like, hey, everything's cool, we're progressing,
don't worry about it. Miami has had the lead in
like four of these games in the final minutes to
(24:16):
use it, and it's like, hey, fire the coach, quarterbacks,
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
They got a leadership issuit.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Here's why number one. He did what you're not supposed
to do. It's great to do in real life.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Yeah, it's just crazy how if, yeah, one play goes
different in this game, they're three and two and they're
right there.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But what you just said is what we talk about
all the time. What is the ultimate It's about winning
and losing. Not how you do that, but winning and
losing and if you win those games, rob g and
if you're right or if those things go your way.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It's just like we talked about it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
It is about winning and losing and that and and
winning covers up everything.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's the ultimate makeup in sports.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It covers up the flaws of the blemishes and you
and you turn your head.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And go, oh, what do you want? What do you
want to do? Cry over? We won.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
The Dodgers didn't go like, oh no, we don't want
to win that game because the pitcher threw it over
the catcher's head on an easy play to first base.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
They won the game. And you know what they did.
They moved on. They don't care. They moved on. They won.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I think the problem too Rob g his first
I think two out of the first two to two
out of three seasons they went to the postseason. So
he had success early. Right, you can't go backwards. You
can inch your way up like and I hate to
use ma example Tim and Dan Cambell.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It looks bad, but it getting better. It looks bad
getting better, not good.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You can't go playoffs, playoffs seventy piece looking good to
a lead in the league in passing, just got a
new contract like and then fall off and fall off bad.
And it can't be both on the field and off
the field issues. That's the part, right, So if you're
if you're a struggling even the Bills, for example, they've
had enough success that they struggled for a while then
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you say, all right, they're having a rough little goal,
but they've had they've been building up and had success.
You can't start here and just all of a sudden
go back and then lastly have your leader, your franchise
quarterback come up. That's when you Tua never says anything.
When Tua says that.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
That's saying a lot.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
And it didn't help that the coach came out and said, well,
he's probably talking about one person, and the next day
he comes out and says, yeah, that was a misguided comment.
So when the quarterbacks saying there's a leadership issue, the
coach is saying, waldough, they're falling the things I'm saying,
I don't know what the problem is.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That tells you they got real leadership problem. That's the
point right there.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Show.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Hey is a no show? Seriously one for twenty and
guess what off of reputation? They keep walking him in
front of Mookie, and Mookie keeps getting walked and walking
in a run.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Pitch to the guy.
Speaker 4 (00:40):
Make him earn his keep, Make him earn that seven
hundred million dollar contract that they're paying him for. Last year,
he struggled and they won his bite. They won the
World Series where he didn't pitch and he didn't hit.
This year, they're winning, trying to get back to the
World Series, trying to win back to back for the
(01:01):
first time since the Yankees did it in ninety nine
two thousand and This dude is a no show. What
has happened? You've seen some of the swings. Somebody at
bats hell, Look is this on show?
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Hey?
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Show up? Earn your keep, get some knocks.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
Enough already riding the wave of everybody else and hiding.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
That's what he's doing.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Go ahead, defend him, Dodger Homer, Wait heard them, I'm
about to go full Robbie Cochran.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
That's what I call you, your honor. I heard what the
prosecution have to say, but me, as the defense team,
I would like to say, I object to the way
in which you are belittling the fact that the man
was walked three times.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's a massive part of success.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
If I walk back Bonds, if I'm walking, Mike Trout,
if I'm watching walking, Mark cguire, if I'm walking whoever
you wanted to be, and now in this case show hey,
o Tani, that's a massive part.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
You can't. Can you say this with a straight face?
Hold on? Okay, hit me again, false, okay, hit me
with the law and order. I'm not done now. Listen.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The benefit that he also has is that it could
potentially be another two weeks. And this is what I mean.
Don't cover the no you said, James Franklin. Okay, listen.
The best part about this is what'sn't ahead of him,
meaning they have minimally seven games if they were to
go to the World Series in either team won. But
(02:44):
he has minimum seventeen three to win this series and
then uh you know for in the World Series.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Oh there sweeping the World Series minimally even if they
were to lose.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm saying, but my point is he has a chance
to continue to produce. And I can't lie he ain't
showed up right now. It has definitely been no, hey,
no tany right now. I can't even deny he didn't
even just this year last last year.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Last year is bad.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
This year is even worse. No, but all jokes aside,
he's performed badly. Uh, they have walked in so that
that has an advantage for him, the Dodgers. But here
here's the other thing too. It's not just the Robs,
just the one for twenty one. It's that how they're
taking full advantage of him on the inside, and he's
swinging at everything on the inside, swinging everything in the inside.
They and they have found that that he can't resist
(03:30):
that he's swinging uncharacteristically bad at some things.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
He's striking out.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
He's usually he doesn't have bad outs, even if you know, yay,
it's part of baseball. You're gonna you hit thirty percent
of something, you're gonna be good. He is having bad
at bats at times, which is unusual. Now this is
where he has the benefit. He still has so many
games ahead of him that we could potentially forget these
first couple of weeks. If he ends up batten you know,
four hundred, the rest of the rest of the postseason,
(03:57):
few home runs, a couple of big plays here that
maybe steals the base, whatever may be, and we can
forget that because that's just human nature. Dodgers win the
World Series second half was better for him. All will
be forgotten. What he has been bad I cannot deny.
There's no argument he has been bad. The only other
point I make is if he's they slayd him to
get on the mound. Later this series, he gets on
(04:18):
the mound, he gets no the opposite he throws six,
he throws seven, he throws five. But possibility, that is
a possibility. That also is what makes him this unicorn
and what can save him. So if he goes out
there and throws a six inning gym, maybe a hit
or two, but you know, no runs, goes out there
seven k's again, this is why you paid the man
(04:39):
seven hundred million dollars, so that thankfully the other side
of the coin is working because.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
I can't deny it.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
The at bats right now, I am fabulous and Nate Dogg,
I can't deny it. It is bad right now. There's
no way around it. And the best thing for him
is that his team keeps winning. That keeps giving him
more chances, more at bats, and more opportunities to rewrite this,
because I can't sit up here and act like if
this wasn't and Judge, we'll be having some conversations. Hey,
you good, this was a Rod in his run with
(05:04):
the with the Yankees. We'll be having conversations. Is this
for Mookie? Let's say it was Mookie prior to show
hey coming when he was the big star. We will
be having this conversation. So he absolutely deserves some concern.
He absolutely deserves some criticism right now. But fortunately for him,
the Dodgers keep winning and he has more opportunities to
change the narrative.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But he has to start tonight again.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Last year, I point last week, I should say, I
pointed out that the Dodgers bullpen had a chubby e
r Ra right in the eighth inning. Well, Otani is
the opposite as far as that. His postseason batting average
is a spelt one thirty eight.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
That's hey, we all headphone eight no one eight, all.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Right, we want to hear from you. Eight seven seven
come on, so hey ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I've been fighting for you. This man been downing you
all ye, I've been having your back all year. Hit
me with a law and order.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Are we waiting? Are you waiting for show hat to
show up? Because there's been two postseasons?
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Now? What? What? What's the deal? You have another baby?
Am I missing something? Show? Hey? How disappointing? Are you
and watching show? Hal Tony? And is he not a
postseason guy?
Speaker 4 (06:12):
Maybe he's a regular season guy that maybe he can't
perform in those big moments those six years he was
in Anaheim. He never had to get a chance to
play in the playoffs. Maybe he's not a postseason guy.
That Dodgers won a championship last year where he struggled
at the plate.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Okay, an extra dip on your chips. Okay, he hit
two thirty last year. They would die to have him
at two thirty.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
This year he's one hundred, almost one hundred points lower
than he was last year, and he was batter.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Know what for you? And Rob g Okay. The best
part about put the camera on me.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
The best part about it is he's gonna have at
least seven more games. He's gonna bat four hundred, hit
three to four home runs, and all will be forgotten.
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Speaker 3 (07:33):
He's still moving about a week away now from NBA
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Speaker 7 (07:39):
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the Warriors will be the marquee game. He was talking
about no Lebron in that one, but uh yes, NBA
Opening Night in a week. Today, though Don Staley met
with the media for SEC Media Days, her Game Cocks
are ranked number two in the nation entering the season.
They are the current dynasty in me it's college sports,
(08:01):
and lest we forget, we were this close away from
that dynasty being over because Don Staley interviewed for the
vacant New York Knicks head coaching gig after they fired
Tom Thibodeaux before they hired Mike Brown, and it was
reported at the time nobody really believed until she said, no,
I interviewed for the job. I met with world Wide West,
(08:24):
I met with Leon Rose. I really respect those guys,
and they just, you know, the decision that wasn't made.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
It is what it is.
Speaker 7 (08:29):
Well today at SEC Media Days, she was asked about
the idea of women coaching in the NBA, especially at
the head level, and here's what she said.
Speaker 8 (08:43):
If I'm the nixed coach and you have a five
game losing streak, it's not going to be about the
losing streak. It's going to be about being a female coach.
So you as an organization and a franchise. You have
to be prepared for that and strong enough to endure
those type of instances when you're gonna look for or
hire a female coach, Do.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
You think it'll happen in your lifetime where women's coach
but no woman is.
Speaker 8 (09:08):
I don't, and I hope I'm wrong.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
I don't know. I'm gonna say I think it will happen.
I'm gonna go to the opposite only because I think basketball,
of all the sports, is very viable where you look
at a woman having played basketball at a certain level
and then coach. I can't see a woman as a
managed baseball manager hardball.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Not soft like football. No, you know what I mean.
I can't. I really can't. And it doesn't mean that
they couldn't know.
Speaker 4 (09:43):
About football being a some sort of coach or you know,
like that same. I know women play hockey too aboon
that level, but basketball is apples to apples, it really is.
The game is for the most part and more fundamentally sound.
When you say women, where can metamore athletic and above
the rim and all that kind of stuff and and
(10:04):
and whatnot. So I'm not positive I agree with her
that it's not gonna happen in her lifetime. I mean,
I didn't think that we'd see a black president in
the United States. I gotta be it, my honest, I
do that.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
No, but I didn't. I really, I really didn't.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
But I didn't. I don't know.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
You might be right, but my point is, uh, if
there is a sport and and and she might be
right that they're not ready to do it now, you
know what I mean. But to say never, I just
think basketball, women's basketball, men's basketball. Men coach women's basketball
left and right, right. You don't have to be a
(10:48):
female to coach women's basketball. And I get it, it's
a male dominated business and sports and whatnot. But there
was something missing because Becky Hammond's was was on that
track to be a head coach in the NBA. She
was pop picked, her made, he put on the bench
with the Spurs.
Speaker 3 (11:08):
She interviewed with a.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Couple of teams like like, and for whatever reason, nobody
pulled the trigger on her. I don't know if it
was something about her, you know what I mean, once
she got in there, you know that people like that
who should be coaches, who's the guy for the for
the Lakers forever? He finally got rob g finally got
a head coach Byron Scott. No, who's the other guy
(11:32):
was on the he was on what era with? He
was with Phil Jackson and he just could not Oh
my god, I cannot.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Remember that called a long time.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
He finally didn't he finally get a head coach job.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
You know who that is?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Now?
Speaker 3 (11:50):
Sam Cassell?
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Okay, Sam Cassell, there's another guy like Okay, he's being
paid his everybody's like Sam and whatever reason he's interviewed
for some jobs. They don't pull a trigger on Sam Cassel.
And they didn't pull a trigger on Becky Hammond's even
though she was set up for it. Like the rest
coach at the time in the NBA is like all
(12:12):
in on her, the endorsements, giving her a job that
no other woman had had on an NBA team, responsibility
when he was out, she coached, you know what I mean,
like everything, And it didn't happen in San Antonio, and
it didn't happen anywhere else. But do I really I
think that of all the sports, it could happen in
basketball because the games are so close? Are they ready
(12:35):
right now?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:37):
But I.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
Dawn said not in her lifetime. I disagree with that.
I strongly disagree with the in my lifetime. I absolutely
believe it's gonna happen. I believe it might happen in
the next decade. A couple of reasons why now. I
do think current political climate may need to change. That's
I'm gonna say about that. But there's a couple of
reasons why the NBA Number one, The NBA is the
(13:02):
most progressive of all the leagues.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Right.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
They usually try to be forward thinking. They try to
be ahead of the curb and certain things socially, politically,
and all those kind of things they try to do
that they've already integrated. It's almost like weird now if
you're an NBA team and you don't have a woman
on your your bench, you know, some type of coach,
some other assistant you know, whether film coach something, you're
some type of assistant coach. The Lakers here have in
(13:26):
LA have one as well, maybe even more. But so
it's not far fetcher. And I think inherently you mentioned
it because it's skilled to skill, like hoop is hoop
is hoop. You grow up playing ball, Dude, if you
go to a local twenty four hour Fitness La Times.
Right now, there's gonna be a lady, a couple of
ladies out.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
There playing, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
And you don't think toy like Joe. She can hoop,
let's go hoop. She can shoot, she can shut, and
it's just natural.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
I grew up. You're plenty of.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Like when I played Nancy Lieberman in that game exactly.
And you know what Nancy Lieberman is coaching in the
Big Three. You led me to where I was gonna go.
Nancy Lieberman is coaching in the Big Three wins is
very volidle and hostile and tough and aggressive and because
that's how they promote the league, and she's doing her
thing there.
Speaker 3 (14:11):
You couldn't tell me that.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Dawn Staley, Cheryl Miller, Doris Burke, God blessed that past summer.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
All there's a Hot Summit, I.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Mean Pat Summitat Pat Summit, there's a whole list of
folks that if they, dude, if I was in college
and r NBA and that was my coach, I'd be
don't even think to it. But I was coach Becky Hammond,
because you know, they know the game. Diana Tarassi, if
she all of a Sudden became a coach, If Sue
Bird became a coach, you'd be like, all right, whatever,
And it might be a little weird, and just because
you grew up with men, and there's certain little things
(14:43):
like you naturally think you got an arm around the coach,
you walk in the locker room, maybe there you know,
I don't know the rules, and maybe a little different.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
I get that that's just human nature.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
But ultimately I think you get over and I think
the NBA is very progressive in that regard. I fully
expect within the next ten years or so for someone
to do that. I think someone's gonna want to show
how bald they are, want to lead the pack, want
to give someone a chance. And you're you're right that
we all kind of thought Becky Hammond was on that track,
so it was shocking to see that she hasn't. But
she's still coaching very well in the w NBA, so
(15:11):
very well could end up being getting that opportunity because
she's doing her thing in the WNBA, winning championships as well.
So football, there's a physicality, there's a machismo, there's a
man thing. I think that won't allow it to happen right,
because the highest every high there's a few high school
players around the country that have a women athletes, girl,
(15:34):
young girls, young women.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
But it's not like a thing.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
There's more flag football, softball, Yeah, you play, but it
ain't baseball. You can hear it, and it's in baseball
for different sport, different mindset, different era. Has been around
for so long, and again I just think they'll be
slowly to slow to adapt that basketball is just not
crazy at all. And again Nancy Lieberman that it's a
(15:58):
really big thing that she's doing the Big three, because
to me it's another Big three is in the NBA.
But you need somebody to start slowly doing it. Then
you need a smaller school, not maybe like a smaller
d one like I went to Eastern Michigan. Right, you
need an Almah, the smaller d one Eastern Michigan to
have a coach, and then you start inching your way up.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
But I don't I don't think it's far fetched.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
I think in Don Staley, by the way, while she's
talking about it might not be in my lifetime. Don Staley,
you might get tapped on the shoulder again.
Speaker 3 (16:25):
Maybe the next coach at Wisconsin Green Bay could be
a woman.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's very possible. What are you saying, next, coach, It
could be like five years too. Yeah, Yeah, that's what
I'm thinking. It'd be more like that, something like that.
Speaker 3 (16:40):
Like that.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
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Speaker 1 (16:52):
A few weeks ago, Rob there were conversations and there
were some reports about the end of last season, how
it ended for the Dolphins.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
What's been going on.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
You have former players talking about what's happening in the
locker room. You and I talked about it a bit.
One of the concerns that I had with Mike McDaniels
is trying to be the cool coach, trying to be
the players coach too much, especially when you haven't won anything,
I think can be dangerous. We all want to be that,
we all want to be liked, and they had start
to struggle a bit, and they started we started hit
(17:22):
reports that you had Jalen Ramsey, you had Tyreek Hill.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
They weren't showing up, They're missing.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Practices, they're showing up late to meetings or not coming
at all and you obviously had all the issues with
Tyreek where he left, you know, talking out I want
to lead the team, I want to get out of here.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Then he has to come back. They had to have
a team meeting for that.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Then you had your leader in your quarterback say some
things the other day.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
I think it starts with the leadership in helping articulate
that for the guys, and then what we're expecting out
of the guys, right, we're expecting this, Are we getting that?
Are we not getting that? We have guys showing up
to only player only meetings late, guys not showing up
to player only meeting Like, there's a lot that goes
into that. Do we have to make this mandatory? Do
(18:05):
we not have to make this mandatory? So it's it's
a lot of it's a lot of things of that
nature that we got to get cleaned up. And it
starts with the little things like that.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
Yeah, when I heard that, that was the moment I
realized he might need to update he's linked in because
it's one thing and you know this as as a
reporter for many years, it's one thing that was, no,
don't come over here to tell me abody've been doing
this since nineteen eighty something, I say, for a long time.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
And my point is.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's one thing to hear a rumor or report or
kind of some unknowing sources or some player that that happens,
and it very well could be true. But you can
say that's just outside noise. It was last year's players.
You can understand it. Even though we know after the
first game where they had the season players only meeting
right off the band. You can't start the season off
already having a players. I mean, that shows me there's
(19:01):
some dysfunction in the off season. Tyreek Hill trying to
come back, they have to have a meeting about him.
That a whole bunch of stuff's going on. When your quarterback,
who is normally soft spoken, who is normally trying to
say the right thing, do the right thing, be a
podium guy, is screaming this. This is a major indictment
coming from you know, your the face of the franchise
(19:22):
in this case, in your quarterback. And I think that
is an indictment on him. On my McDaniels. And this
is one time I will say losing is the issue,
because had they been winning right now, they're one and four.
If they were you know, three and two or something
or four and one, we might not be having this conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
But you can't be losing.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And then when you start to look at the numbers
of where they are, they're in the bottom third of
offensive stats, are like twenty fifth, sixth seventh offensively, and
you cannot be that bad when the sign of what
you are. You were a wonder kid, you were the
the you know, the smart genius kid offensively, and they
had an amazing year in twenty twenty three. Put up
(20:01):
a seventy piece. I thought it was the Miami heat plan.
And now our offensive terrible, offense is bad. Were down
to the bottom of the pack, and all of these
offensive stats and our own leader in a quarterback franchise,
quarterback is calling out leadership. That's that's It can't get
more damning to me, because it would be different if
you said that, but our offense was crazy. We're number
one in this number two and that number three, and
(20:23):
that that's damning. Rob And I just think that the
riding is on the wall. And that's almost to me.
If it's as an agent, you're starting to feel calls,
you start to look for opportunities.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Well, when you don't win, if you're not a part
of the solution, you're a part of the problem. And
we talked about it before. I mean, sports is real simple.
I know it's cliche and I've said it a million times.
Sports has a short menu and this wins and losses,
and you're going to get fired when you don't win.
(20:55):
Then one in five correct, five.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
One to five, Yeah, you're gonna get fired. And it's
this bad and it looks this bad and then they.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Coach it in like Doug told you, No, you're proud
of the problem. Yes, you're proud of the problem right now,
one and five. Like, I mean, you know, I know
some people said you are what your record says you are,
but I'm just saying, you know, don't do that, thanks Doug.
Speaker 3 (21:23):
I mean, he's setting some things up around there. They're
building something.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Time doesn't work, like you saying, my third fourth year,
I should already have it together.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
Yes, yes, you should have them together. You say, I'm offensive,
offense stinks nobody.
Speaker 4 (21:36):
We don't live that world anymore. And that's the big
thing there is there used to be. New coach came
in a five year plan, the quarterback would sit the
first couple of years. Those days are long, nobody, They're
not waiting for anybody.
Speaker 3 (21:52):
Every year.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
You're retooling your team, trying to win. Now, what we
gotta do to try to win? Now? Right, you're not
you're in Cleveland. Let's bring the forty year old quarterback.
We need to win games. Now you're the Pittsburgh Steelers.
All right, we'll just we got a great story tradition.
We'll just rebuild. Let's get a young quarterback, let's go
for a couple of years, and then we'll be ready. No, No,
(22:13):
nobody's doing that, because that's not where we are in
sports anymore. People are trying to do whatever they can
right now to give themselves the best chance to win.
When you're having issues with a coach not winning, and
now there's the other stuff that comes out, and you
know that, the dirty laundry always comes out when things
(22:34):
on going. When you're winning, nobody's saying anything because basically,
for the most part, let's you're aj Brown, you're not
saying anything. But you get my point. So I'm not
shocked by this, not shocked by the conversation, not shocked
that people are out there and this stuff is happening,
and you're right McDonald, Well he'll be he'll he'll be
(22:54):
whacked sooner than later. I don't know when is there
by rob guh. I have to look that up because
there might there might have been an opening coming up,
you know what I mean, after.
Speaker 3 (23:04):
The next game or so, where they might decide to
make a change or something. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
It actually, uh, they they must have already had.
Speaker 5 (23:12):
You.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
I think they already had already. That's their bye. That's
too late? Is that the second Thankgiving? That's they ain't
had it? They got that. I mean they're about to
suffer and they got lost.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
They got they got like the last by right, I
mean November twenty third.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
My goodness, man, that about this is about to be
a brutal hill. You know what's crazy is we just
did back to back.
Speaker 7 (23:32):
Satan's talking about the Bears and the Dolphins, right, and
the narratives around each team is so different. If Miami
can hold Justin Herbert from getting a forty yard completion
on third down, they win last week. If Jayden Daniels
doesn't fumble the ball with nobody touching him, the Bears
lose last night.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
The Bears won two weeks ago off of block.
Speaker 7 (23:54):
Field goal against the Raiders, which they would have lost
that game too, And it's just interesting how they win.
Caleb Williams not really playing very well, they've been very sloppy,
but they win and it's like, hey, everything's cool, we're progressing,
don't worry about it. Miami has had the lead in
like four of these games in the final minutes to
(24:16):
use it, and it's like, hey, fire the coach, quarterbacks,
gotta go.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
They got a leadership issuit.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Here's why number one. He did what you're not supposed
to do. It's great to do in real life.
Speaker 7 (24:28):
Yeah, it's just crazy how if, yeah, one play goes
different in this game, they're three and two and they're
right there.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
But what you just said is what we talk about
all the time. What is the ultimate It's about winning
and losing. Not how you do that, but winning and
losing and if you win those games, rob g and
if you're right or if those things go your way.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It's just like we talked about it.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
It is about winning and losing and that and and
winning covers up everything.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
It's the ultimate makeup in sports.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
It covers up the flaws of the blemishes and you
and you turn your head.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
And go, oh, what do you want? What do you
want to do? Cry over? We won.
Speaker 4 (25:07):
The Dodgers didn't go like, oh no, we don't want
to win that game because the pitcher threw it over
the catcher's head on an easy play to first base.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
They won the game. And you know what they did.
They moved on. They don't care. They moved on. They won.
Speaker 1 (25:21):
And I think the problem too Rob g his first
I think two out of the first two to two
out of three seasons they went to the postseason. So
he had success early. Right, you can't go backwards. You
can inch your way up like and I hate to
use ma example Tim and Dan Cambell.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It looks bad, but it getting better. It looks bad
getting better, not good.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You can't go playoffs, playoffs seventy piece looking good to
a lead in the league in passing, just got a
new contract like and then fall off and fall off bad.
And it can't be both on the field and off
the field issues. That's the part, right, So if you're
if you're a struggling even the Bills, for example, they've
had enough success that they struggled for a while then
(25:59):
you say, all right, they're having a rough little goal,
but they've had they've been building up and had success.
You can't start here and just all of a sudden
go back and then lastly have your leader, your franchise
quarterback come up. That's when you Tua never says anything.
When Tua says that.
Speaker 3 (26:15):
That's saying a lot.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
And it didn't help that the coach came out and said, well,
he's probably talking about one person, and the next day
he comes out and says, yeah, that was a misguided comment.
So when the quarterbacks saying there's a leadership issue, the
coach is saying, waldough, they're falling the things I'm saying,
I don't know what the problem is.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
That tells you they got real leadership problem. That's the
point right there.
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