October 15, 2025 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why it’s crazy to say the Los Angeles Dodgers going back-to-back would be bad for baseball, debate whether or not sports fans should have a problem with NBA players like Russell Westbrook who would rather bounce around the League at the end than just retire, and argue if Patrick Mahomes deserves to be the odds-on favorite to win the NFL MVP award.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Jeff Passing from ESPN, who does a great job covering baseball,
spoke to my baseball writing class at USC a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's good, good, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We love Jeff, we do, but he tweeted something that
I don't agree with.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, he put out a whole ass column about it. Yes,
and shout out to Jeff for doing the lord's work.
And now, obviously last night's game, big game for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
They go up to two zero in the series.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Coming back to La Yamamoto after Blake's now went eight innings,
say I'm gonna do one, but I'm going nine innings.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And thank god that they didn't like feel compelled to
go to the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Let the guy pick.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Hey, I'm glad you said that. Rob Cat to Roger
we gotta make sure because we all complained about it,
ask for it, and they finally did it.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
So because my goodness, guys, the Dodgers starting eer in
this series is zero point five to three. They are
looking like the juggernaut we expect them to be. They
are looking inevitable. At this point, back to back champs
seems like a foregone conclusion. However, Jeff Passon, We're call
on a friend of the show because its a friend
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of yours, put out a article actually before the NLCS
explaining how this particular series was gonna serve as kind
of like a proxy for the upcoming labor agreement between
Baseball and the Players Association, And what he said was
if the Dodgers end up winning this series and eventually
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going back to back, that the lockout is a four
gone conclusion because owners are already upset about the Dodger
big spending this pass offseason and last offseason, and if
they seal the deal once again with a dominant run
to the championship, it's gonna be bad for the sport
and it's gonna force them to bring in a salary cap.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Do you agree?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I totally disagree with Jeff passes. The foregone conclusion might
be just that that's gonna happen anyway, regardless whether the
Dodgers win or not. The numbers don't even add up
TV ratings through the roof attendance records. Right in baseball,
all those things you want to see for the sport, right,
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younger people, the streaming, the social media, imprints.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
All that stuff. Everything is up.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And guess what, Jeff, The Texas Rangers are smaller market team,
mid size whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They won the World Series two years ago, not ten
years ago, not fifteen. Oh, they can't compete. The Texas
Rangers won the World Series. Detroit is a mid market
in this two years in the row they made the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Seattle's payrolls one hundred and thirty six million, right, are
they not in the have a.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Chance to win the World Series? They're in the mix?
Come on with the money.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The Yankees haven't won since since two thousand and nine.
The Mets in a big market with the richest owner,
they haven't won since nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You want me to keep going to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The Chicago Cubs, the third biggest city, right it took
them one hundred years to win. It took the Red Sox.
They hadn't won in like eighty six or seven years.
I could go on and on and on. Money does
not equate winning.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Stop with it. If you and we have the same
amount of money, we have a.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Chance to win. Why don't the Yankees win? Before the
Dodgers got on this cup this run, they went thirty
two two years with thirty two from nineteen eighty eight
to two thousand and twenty thirty two years they couldn't win.
So it doesn't add up. How did those teams not win?
(04:13):
The Phillies haven't won when they win two thousand and eight.
I think they won two thousand and eight because the
Yankees beat them in two thousand and nine. I think, right,
Devin once is two thousand and eight. Philadelphia is another
top market. Where are we going with this? It has
nothing to do with money. It's about decision making. It's
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about that. And let me just say this. The last
team that did go back to back, and it was
the Yankees twenty five years ago. When you look at
that team and you think of that team, I don't
think about, oh my god, they paid on all these guys.
I think of the core five guys who all came
through their minor league, Sistem Calvin, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada,
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Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, and Andy Pettitt. They built from that,
added pieces around that, but it was their core.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
You all right, So let me just add because you
touched on just all of the points and no, no, no,
it's it's fine because I'm gonna add to a couple
other things that you just mentioned. So when you have
over the last let's go back thirty years, you have
so many old rider. Now these are the teams, by
the way, mind you we're mentioning the teams that won it.
You had teams that at least got there and had
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a chance to win it and just happened to lose.
That also come from smaller mark So it's not even
just like, oh we didn't have a shot. No, teams
are getting there. Teams are winning. Teams are getting there
and falling show, but they're still getting there. The White
Sox have won in two thousand and five. You got
the Marlins won twice. We just talked about them. A
couple weeks ago. We did a segment on in ninety
seven and two thousand and three the Angels won and
O twos you got the Diamondbacks and O one, I
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mean the Rangers, the Braves.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You have a multitude of mix.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It and the White Sox as well, so they did
that two thousand and five, so you have a multitude. Yes,
the big teams has won it. But what's interesting to
your point, the big teams didn't win it for decades. Now,
we didn't win the last six seven, eight years. The
big teams had the longest drouts the big teams one
hundred eight years for the Cubs, right, eighty some years
for the Red Sox, thirty some years for the Dodgers,
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and the now sixteen which is a lot for the Yankees.
So that's not since eighty seven, the met since eighty six.
So when you go there also a couple of things too.
Your scouting team can go in grab players from across
the country and you can swing over the Asia like
it makes it's fair market. Now you can go get guys.
And now you might not be able to sign Yoshi
Nobo Yamamotor for three hundred million, but you can go
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get guys. You can improve your fig system as you
mentioned as well, and not to mention. I think the
real thing is the league needs to have a salary floor.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
See, I'm gonna tell you why I'm against the salary
floor because you wind up doing what the NBA does,
which is pay guys who aren't that good because you
have to spend the money.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
True, do you know what I mean? Like, here's ben point.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
There are bench players who are making a lot of
money in the NBA who want that good only cause
you gotta spend this amount of money and they're on
your team and all.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That, So they got to get cashed out. That's what
the here's where I get. That's what I get. Your point.
Get your point.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
The problem, the challenge that I would have with that
is these will be the same folks that ever then
will be crying we need a salary cap, meaning they
get to just cash out. We're not doing anything. We're
not necessarily trying to compete. We're not fielding a best team.
Our fans are mad, you know, mad everybody, But the
money is green. It's coming there year after year. We're
making more. When you at least put a floor, it
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doesn't have to be high. But you're saying some type
of minimum. You have to be invested in this.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You have to be competing.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I'm okay with that, but yeah, you get got because
I gotta meet the ninety or one hundred million. So
bum guy gets right, you know, four years, one hundred
and twenty million. Because when we're all like, wait what,
I get that, but I think you just to me,
you're you're you're at least creating a scenario where your
team is fielding out the best that you can and
you're really trying. And so yeah, they don't. I don't
agree with this at all. There's too much evidence. Again,
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it'st it, and I do think there's just an issue
with players in the power you mentioned, because remember we
talked about when Bryce Harper and Rob Manfred went in
got into it in the club the clubhouse right in
Philadelpia and get the f out of here and going
Bryce Harper going at him, He's going at Bryce, and
there's something brewing there.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well that's because there is. I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
They would like to put a cap and try to
control the money that's being paid out. But I just
you can make that argument, but don't use competitive balance
because the leagues with caps, we see the Chiefs all
the time.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We saw the Patriots all the time. Warriors we saw
we saw the Warriors all the time. The same teams. Yeah,
like you said, the Patriots, it's just so so what so,
and those what leagues we can't argue.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
The ones with caps have it have the same teams
winning way more frequently than in baseball, like not even close.
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Speaker 3 (09:23):
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Speaker 4 (09:26):
So SGA was asked about this idea of these guys
playing late into their thirties, even into their forties. Right,
Here's what SGA said. I definitely think I can. I
won't though I won't want to miss that much of
my kid's life. There is a certain point of your
career where you reach your peak and I don't fall.
Guys are still playing. They love the game, but I
just feel like you play this game ultimately to see
the best version of me I can be. Once I
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figure that out and I start going down, then it's like, Okay,
what am I playing for now?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Flash forward to today.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Russell Westbrook former Laker, four, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz,
former Nugget, former Clipper, former former oh.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We don't have all day?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I signed a one year VET minimum deal to join
the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the Western Conference.
Rob what's up with guys like Russ and others? He
just can't seem to hang it up.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
It's just they're selfish and they can't let it go,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like seriously, because not only are they just they're taking
up a roster spot somebody else could probably play. They're
not gonna get anything from it. Russ isn't gonna win
a championship which he's never won.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He just wants to be on the bus, wants to
be on the team, you know, wants to still be
relevant where they're still gonna talk about Ross and he
made a shot or basket or steal and look how
much he plays with energy or whatever. And a lot
of these guys can't let it go. I'm just I
can't understand and and and SGA. You know, was he
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talking about Lebron Like, seriously, I don't want to be
playing till I'm in my forties. I got kids in time.
I want to spend with my kids and all that.
And I think that is a little bit of it.
Where Lebron, you've been around for a long time. I
don't know what else there is, you know what I
mean that you're chasing even if you win, You're not
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passing Michael Jordan. You got I hate to break it
to you. You're the fu Foute Finals failure of all time.
You got more losses, you know, than any other former.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
MVP. It's a fact that the funny, what's Tom Brady
the low man? I'm jumping off your boat. I'm just
saying and go, that's it. I just I couldn't disagree
more with you, selfish. Don't forget the massault, Kevin Durant,
that's right, the most sensitive of all time, the missault.
Very nice.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Well, I'm listening about whatever your oade is right now,
let me figure out how ohe for you look at me.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I'm the hop you are the boat. I am not
buying anything you selling right now.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
This is this.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I am not you at ross right now, I'm not
buying that deal.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You love your.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Career, correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, but I'm not
going to be here forever. You already are you and
you have se.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Now you might not be, but you I'm not Bob
Bryan and those guys. So that's where I was going.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Who eighty years those dudes, I'm serious, Like, no, I
know all right, we've seen it if you went out
the guys.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
No, guys eighty years old. I'm not saying you're old.
What I'm saying is you're in a career where you
already had it for you know however long forty years
almost forty years, and you could have it if you
chose to another ten fifteen.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We see it. We talk about the guys and gals
that we see sports is not that you.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Come in at twenty twenty one, two three and you
might get four or five or in some cases ten
years fifteen. This is right, and so this is something
that they know what's going to end. It has an
expiration date, and they want to enjoy it as long
as possible because at the end of the year, probably
for us or Chris Paul and these guys, that is
it for the rest of your life. Well, look, they
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don't have the luxury of us getting to run our
mouths for another thirty forty years.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
If we chose to look at where Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Paul is again, like he's been on fifteen teams, Like like, seriously,
what possibly I start the question do you want to
be around your family?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Do you love your wife? I think it's serious and
I'm gonna tell you because it ain't the money.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Trust, it ain't the money because they don't make any money,
you know, like the veterans minimum.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I'm not making their run. I think their spouses came
into this, especially the guys that were naming. You're naming
or Russ. Russ has been with his lady, his wife
now for years. They both for at UCLA. Chris Paul
been with her for years. I get it, Lebron, we
know their story. My point is there has been a
sign on I know what this is. I know I
signed up for. Lebron always talks about how much he
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owes her on the back in Savannah and the children
because they had to sacrifice so much for me to
go do this thing.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That I believe I was here for and I'm great
for and they are. Tom Brady did it for forty
five Tom Brady. Tom Brady came, Tom Brady money came
in later with the wife. No gods I name kind
of they've been with no.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But also he also got to the point where he
missed training camp.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Do you know what I mean? Because he's overstayed Tom in.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
My opinion, and again I wasn't sitting in the you know,
in at the house when they're having these conversations. I
think one of the differences is she was very vocal about, Hey, man,
this's got to be it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Hey, this needs to be it. Hey we done? Hey,
what about your family?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
What I assume to be with the Chris pause and
Wes Rustbrook and I kind of know some people you know,
like you know They're very much all in the whole family, brothers, family,
everybody's all in on. This was the ride that we've
all taken because of you. You have kind of been
the chosen one. You have this amazing opportunity to change
your life, our lives, better lives, and do something. But
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he making that kind of money now, it's not the money.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, And my point is now, at some point to
just be on another team, to just be on the bench,
to just be mopping up, why would you want to
put yourself It would be like it would be like
me sticking around Fox Sports Radio and uh, I don't
know Scott saying do you want to do uh two
midday hours where nobody's listening?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Do you want to do that? I deal with you
right now? What time slot? Ron midnight? I said night?
Tholl you No, I didn't mean. He didn't We know
who he didn't mean.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Men.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Do you are to turn now? Let me roll my
sneezeer now because I know him be scrapping.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Rob G?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Where'd your head go?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Because rob G? No, he finna be scrapping. Yes, Finnah
finna be scrapping. Tell me My point is I'm good.
I don't want to change spots.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I'm good is these dudes are doing something that me
and you were.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You had to baseball back or stick or whatever y'all
using in New York back in the day, and I
had the basketball and I'm shooting hoops, or we had
the tennis racket, whatever it is, and they're getting to
do something they absolutely love to do.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's such a small minority of people get to do.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
You get to be an NBA player four hundred and
fifty and out of eight billion people on the Earth,
I think they're gonna milk it. And Chris Paul gets
to be a leader, gets to be around, gets to
be that old vet.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
On the team. Those young players are like, dude, can
this guy go sit out? You know what every team needs?
Can you go sit down?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
We got the first seven, eight guys who really are
gonna play eight nine guys, The last three four or
five guys ain't playing, and we need some leadership. We
need some locker room guys. You know what charl Berkeley
always talk about. He always talks about that he had
his vets and how grateful I mean, I mean my guys.
You talk about people who praise their mentors. He brings
them up every other week. How he didn't know how
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to dress, he didn't know how to do money, He
didn't know about the bank cut, he didn't know about all.
How do I get a house? How do I be
become a professional?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You need those You could do all that.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
They don't need to be on a team. They could
be an assistant coach, they could be a the team
have to be on a team. So yeah, I just
think I think it's overstated. I think you're overstating, like
these dudes are like third mid thirties or you know,
thirty six, or they'll have the rest of the life.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But they played a long time, is my point, Like
there's a shelf life.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Sometimes this body wants me. Sometimes it's great.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
To walk away on that kind of level, like just
to be on yet another team, here's the last.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
One I'm gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, there are kids in this country who don't know
how great Vince Carter was.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, look at his stats. He played so.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Long, all of his stats numbers have dropped, and now
a lot of people won't even consider it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go like he was okay round. Yeah, he had a
two separate careers.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
He had a career as a bench player that nobody
knows about, and he was a really a star player.
He's stuck around too long. I think that's where you
could get hurt if you stick around too long.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I just think there's such a small mind minority of
guys who do this, like who we can even have
these conversations about that is worth it?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
If I get to make hey, I make two three
four million dollars, which again, money really ain't the issue
at that point for some of these guys, and I
get to do the thing I love, I just think
why not?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Why not? And the most important, I think their families
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Savannah knows, Lebron Russell Westbrover, the wife for years, Chris
papably now whyfe for a year.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
They kind of know. The fans all in. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Tom Brady's wife knew too, and she bounced. He went
to fifty two years old and she told him, hey, bruh,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No why but she knew they were all living off
of Tom Brady and TV twelve and all that.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
He told him. She gave baby, She gave the aultimatum. Hey, bro,
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
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Speaker 3 (18:54):
Rob G.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I know there was some chatter, you know, the talking
heads on television and Patrick Holmes and what he's done
this year. Their offense obviously has gotten better, but people
are starting to mention him as a maybe winning the MVP.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, it's not just the talking heads, Rob because Lamar Mitchell,
who text me, by the way, says, great job with
Sheckel City. Keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You thank you, new tower coming. Yes, don't hit the
reset button again, keep doing it, uh, Lamar Mitchell. Bet MGM.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Friends of the Show put out the updated NFL MVP
odds today, and I'll give you one guess who is
now the favorite, a slight favorite, but the favorite nonetheless
to win the award this season. It's not Lamar Jackson
opened up as the favorite. It's not Matthew Stafford. It's
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not even Jared Goff. It's not even my arch nemesis
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It is none other than mister three and three himself,
Patrick Mahomes at plus two hundred to win the NFL
MVP at bet MGM, he is the favorite.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right now, here we go again. They're living in the past.
They so want Patrick Mahomes to be that guy, and
I get it. They're living in the past of what
he used to be. And even this year, like last year,
he didn't get one single first place vote for MVP,
and this year he should not get if we were
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voting right now, one single vote, not one. First of all,
the Chiefs are three and three. The teams that he's
beaten have a record of seven and twelve. He'd beat
Baltimore one and five, the Giants two and five, and
the Lions four and two. Okay, his passer rating, he's
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had four games so far under ninety two, the league average.
That's that's right under ninety two. He also beat quarterbacks
like Cooper Rush Russell Wilson, so he beats some also rams,
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which is fine.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Here's the other part. Patrick Mahomes is not rob g
repeat after me, not.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Nt in the top twenty in completion, not in the
top twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Wow, in completions.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You know where he is in passer rating eighteenth, that's
below middle of the pack, which is fifteen sixteenth. Right,
He's eighteenth passer rating, seventh in touchdown passes with one
more than Lamar who's miss games, and he's tied with Tua,
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whose team can't win. Stop with wanting to fall in
love with Patrickrick Mahomes because what he did to start
his career, I'll give it to you. It was magical.
It was unbelievable to watch. He's not that dude, dear,
three and three, he's twentieth in completion percentage, twentieth to zero. Wow,
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eighteenth quarter passer rating. How is that MVP? No, that's
not MVP when your team is three and three, you
hear me, saga, I'm right, I'm totally right. Patrick Mahomes
deserves zero and VP votes right here, right now at
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three and three. So you're wrong, per usual. Now here's
why you're wrong. He's not gonna win it.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
But the idea that he is going to be the leader,
to me is not crazy because people, this is what
I said you three when they beat the Baltimore Ravens.
I said, this offense is about to explode, and since
then it has for him. Since then, this offense is clicked.
Last season, you kept bringing up how the stats were
very close to Aaron Rodgers this season. Right now, he
has eleven touchdowns and two interceptions. He's on the roll
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right now, fifteen plus fifteen hundred yards to be more
like the Patrick Mahomes of old you mentioned last season.
I think last season is gonna work in his favorite
this season because the last two seasons, actually Patrick mahonmes
numbers weren't spectacular. Patrick Mahomes wasn't looking like what we
had become a custom to seeing. I think that is
why people are gonna go, that's the guy we knew.
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Those are the plays we used to seeing. Look at
him going down the field way more than he's going
to the last couple of years. Look at him have
any spectacular plays, and not to mention, I think that
it's gonna work in favor of him that the season
won't be a fifteen to two kind of I think
the season gonna be one of those They're gonna lose
a couple, then they're gonna win three four in a row.
They're gonna lose a couple, and they're gonna work their
way into the postseason. And I think that's gonna work
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in his favor because people will be able to see, oh,
he had to do it a different way. Right, it
wasn't just easy and they were fifteen to two and
they just won all these games. I think it's gonna
be that's gonna work in his favor, that they're gonna
feel like, Man, what about the numbers.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I'm telling you so remember the twentieth and eight six
isn't today I hear.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I'm telling you about projection. No, they're talking about right
now he should be the lead on Favorite based on
these numbers because they don't see what's coming.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
No, they don't see what's coming. He hasn't beaten any body,
he hasn't been said he was coming. No, I don't
see it because he didn't anybody. He's number one receivers.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Oh, it's about what you've done and what you've accomplished
to this point, and right now, no one is if
they're safety and Rosse already eighteen the odds on Favor
on the road, what is it?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
What Rob?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It's the odds on Favorite.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
I'm just talking about the MVP, meaning they're saying we
still have ten weeks left. No, there is who we
think he's gonna win it, and they're seeing what he's
about to keep doing for another ten weeks. I don't
think he's going to win it, but the idea that
why he would be the favorite makes sense because he's
going to do it. Ended up statistically, he's gonna be
right there with the top two three guys. Statistically, he's
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probably gonna beat most of the guys.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
If he's eighteenth and twenties. You're gonna jump over all
this because it's literally coming. I told you this against Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I literally told you all the dink and dunk stuff
gone two hundred and seventy yards, four touchdowns against the
Ravens in the next time touchdown on Lamar who not
even playing. Well, we know Lamar is always MVP candidate.
We know that that's not even that's Lamar's Lamar, And
so this is he's on his way and they're already
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seeing he's doing this, and Rashid Rice is getting ready
to come back, and he's starting to look like him.
He's starting to look stylistically like him, doing plays going downfield,
doing trick plays are worthy.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's on the way where.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
He's gonna be right back in that candidate, and I
already told you she's gonna be right back in an
AFC championship game.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
We're all gonna see here and be like, wait, how
did this happen? Again? It's on the way and to me,
it doesn't take a rocket science to see that. Now.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I still again, I think Baker Mayfield is the leader
and probably as long as the team doesn't go take
some epic fall, because he should be getting receivers back
because he's doing this without a lot of guys. I
think is Baker's year. I think it's gonna be a
great storyline. I think it's Baker. But the idea that
Patrick Mahomes won't finish top be right there because we
know who actually should be getting it other than Baker.
It's me John Robinson. But we know running backs don't
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get it for some reason. Running backs you only get
the Offensive Player of the year, guys, So here's your
Just call it the running back of the year called
Quarterback of the year, so we can all stop acting
like an MVP can be anything but a quarterback. So
just call it the MVQ Most Valuable Quarterback Awards.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Isn't Rice also coming off the torn acl Lon's going
off the suspension, right, but he's still coming in. That
was that was a bag It usually takes a couple
of years to recover from that, so you're acting like
he's gonna automatically. I know he's been on suspension, but
he's coming off from major injury too.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm not worried about that. Okay,
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
Jeff Passing from ESPN, who does a great job covering baseball,
spoke to my baseball writing class at USC a couple
of years ago.
Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's good, good, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
We love Jeff, we do, but he tweeted something that
I don't agree with.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
Well, he put out a whole ass column about it. Yes,
and shout out to Jeff for doing the lord's work.
And now, obviously last night's game, big game for the Dodgers.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
They go up to two zero in the series.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Coming back to La Yamamoto after Blake's now went eight innings,
say I'm gonna do one, but I'm going nine innings.
Speaker 1 (00:57):
And thank god that they didn't like feel compelled to
go to the bullpen.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Let the guy pick.
Speaker 5 (01:03):
Hey, I'm glad you said that. Rob Cat to Roger
we gotta make sure because we all complained about it,
ask for it, and they finally did it.
Speaker 4 (01:09):
So because my goodness, guys, the Dodgers starting eer in
this series is zero point five to three. They are
looking like the juggernaut we expect them to be. They
are looking inevitable. At this point, back to back champs
seems like a foregone conclusion. However, Jeff Passon, We're call
on a friend of the show because its a friend
(01:29):
of yours, put out a article actually before the NLCS
explaining how this particular series was gonna serve as kind
of like a proxy for the upcoming labor agreement between
Baseball and the Players Association, And what he said was
if the Dodgers end up winning this series and eventually
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going back to back, that the lockout is a four
gone conclusion because owners are already upset about the Dodger
big spending this pass offseason and last offseason, and if
they seal the deal once again with a dominant run
to the championship, it's gonna be bad for the sport
and it's gonna force them to bring in a salary cap.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Do you agree?
Speaker 1 (02:17):
I totally disagree with Jeff passes. The foregone conclusion might
be just that that's gonna happen anyway, regardless whether the
Dodgers win or not. The numbers don't even add up
TV ratings through the roof attendance records. Right in baseball,
all those things you want to see for the sport, right,
(02:41):
younger people, the streaming, the social media, imprints.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
All that stuff. Everything is up.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
And guess what, Jeff, The Texas Rangers are smaller market team,
mid size whatever you want to call them.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
They won the World Series two years ago, not ten
years ago, not fifteen. Oh, they can't compete. The Texas
Rangers won the World Series. Detroit is a mid market
in this two years in the row they made the playoffs.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Guess what.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Seattle's payrolls one hundred and thirty six million, right, are
they not in the have a.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Chance to win the World Series? They're in the mix?
Come on with the money.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
The Yankees haven't won since since two thousand and nine.
The Mets in a big market with the richest owner,
they haven't won since nineteen eighty six.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
You want me to keep going to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The Chicago Cubs, the third biggest city, right it took
them one hundred years to win. It took the Red Sox.
They hadn't won in like eighty six or seven years.
I could go on and on and on. Money does
not equate winning.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Stop with it. If you and we have the same
amount of money, we have a.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Chance to win. Why don't the Yankees win? Before the
Dodgers got on this cup this run, they went thirty
two two years with thirty two from nineteen eighty eight
to two thousand and twenty thirty two years they couldn't win.
So it doesn't add up. How did those teams not win?
(04:13):
The Phillies haven't won when they win two thousand and eight.
I think they won two thousand and eight because the
Yankees beat them in two thousand and nine. I think, right,
Devin once is two thousand and eight. Philadelphia is another
top market. Where are we going with this? It has
nothing to do with money. It's about decision making. It's
(04:35):
about that. And let me just say this. The last
team that did go back to back, and it was
the Yankees twenty five years ago. When you look at
that team and you think of that team, I don't
think about, oh my god, they paid on all these guys.
I think of the core five guys who all came
through their minor league, Sistem Calvin, Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada,
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Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera, and Andy Pettitt. They built from that,
added pieces around that, but it was their core.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
You all right, So let me just add because you
touched on just all of the points and no, no, no,
it's it's fine because I'm gonna add to a couple
other things that you just mentioned. So when you have
over the last let's go back thirty years, you have
so many old rider. Now these are the teams, by
the way, mind you we're mentioning the teams that won it.
You had teams that at least got there and had
(05:25):
a chance to win it and just happened to lose.
That also come from smaller mark So it's not even
just like, oh we didn't have a shot. No, teams
are getting there. Teams are winning. Teams are getting there
and falling show, but they're still getting there. The White
Sox have won in two thousand and five. You got
the Marlins won twice. We just talked about them. A
couple weeks ago. We did a segment on in ninety
seven and two thousand and three the Angels won and
O twos you got the Diamondbacks and O one, I
(05:46):
mean the Rangers, the Braves.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
You have a multitude of mix.
Speaker 5 (05:49):
It and the White Sox as well, so they did
that two thousand and five, so you have a multitude. Yes,
the big teams has won it. But what's interesting to
your point, the big teams didn't win it for decades. Now,
we didn't win the last six seven, eight years. The
big teams had the longest drouts the big teams one
hundred eight years for the Cubs, right, eighty some years
for the Red Sox, thirty some years for the Dodgers,
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and the now sixteen which is a lot for the Yankees.
So that's not since eighty seven, the met since eighty six.
So when you go there also a couple of things too.
Your scouting team can go in grab players from across
the country and you can swing over the Asia like
it makes it's fair market. Now you can go get guys.
And now you might not be able to sign Yoshi
Nobo Yamamotor for three hundred million, but you can go
(06:32):
get guys. You can improve your fig system as you
mentioned as well, and not to mention. I think the
real thing is the league needs to have a salary floor.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
See, I'm gonna tell you why I'm against the salary
floor because you wind up doing what the NBA does,
which is pay guys who aren't that good because you
have to spend the money.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
True, do you know what I mean? Like, here's ben point.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
There are bench players who are making a lot of
money in the NBA who want that good only cause
you gotta spend this amount of money and they're on
your team and all.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
That, So they got to get cashed out. That's what
the here's where I get. That's what I get. Your point.
Get your point.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
The problem, the challenge that I would have with that
is these will be the same folks that ever then
will be crying we need a salary cap, meaning they
get to just cash out. We're not doing anything. We're
not necessarily trying to compete. We're not fielding a best team.
Our fans are mad, you know, mad everybody, But the
money is green. It's coming there year after year. We're
making more. When you at least put a floor, it
(07:30):
doesn't have to be high. But you're saying some type
of minimum. You have to be invested in this.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You have to be competing.
Speaker 5 (07:36):
I'm okay with that, but yeah, you get got because
I gotta meet the ninety or one hundred million. So
bum guy gets right, you know, four years, one hundred
and twenty million. Because when we're all like, wait what,
I get that, but I think you just to me,
you're you're you're at least creating a scenario where your
team is fielding out the best that you can and
you're really trying. And so yeah, they don't. I don't
agree with this at all. There's too much evidence. Again,
(07:57):
it'st it, and I do think there's just an issue
with players in the power you mentioned, because remember we
talked about when Bryce Harper and Rob Manfred went in
got into it in the club the clubhouse right in
Philadelpia and get the f out of here and going
Bryce Harper going at him, He's going at Bryce, and
there's something brewing there.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
Well that's because there is. I get it.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
They would like to put a cap and try to
control the money that's being paid out. But I just
you can make that argument, but don't use competitive balance
because the leagues with caps, we see the Chiefs all
the time.
Speaker 3 (08:29):
We saw the Patriots all the time. Warriors we saw
we saw the Warriors all the time. The same teams. Yeah,
like you said, the Patriots, it's just so so what so,
and those what leagues we can't argue.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
The ones with caps have it have the same teams
winning way more frequently than in baseball, like not even close.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
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Speaker 3 (09:23):
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Speaker 4 (09:26):
So SGA was asked about this idea of these guys
playing late into their thirties, even into their forties. Right,
Here's what SGA said. I definitely think I can. I
won't though I won't want to miss that much of
my kid's life. There is a certain point of your
career where you reach your peak and I don't fall.
Guys are still playing. They love the game, but I
just feel like you play this game ultimately to see
the best version of me I can be. Once I
(09:48):
figure that out and I start going down, then it's like, Okay,
what am I playing for now?
Speaker 1 (09:54):
Well?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Flash forward to today.
Speaker 4 (09:56):
Russell Westbrook former Laker, four, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz,
former Nugget, former Clipper, former former oh.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
We don't have all day?
Speaker 4 (10:10):
I signed a one year VET minimum deal to join
the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the Western Conference.
Rob what's up with guys like Russ and others? He
just can't seem to hang it up.
Speaker 7 (10:27):
It's just they're selfish and they can't let it go,
you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Like seriously, because not only are they just they're taking
up a roster spot somebody else could probably play. They're
not gonna get anything from it. Russ isn't gonna win
a championship which he's never won.
Speaker 7 (10:43):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
He just wants to be on the bus, wants to
be on the team, you know, wants to still be
relevant where they're still gonna talk about Ross and he
made a shot or basket or steal and look how
much he plays with energy or whatever. And a lot
of these guys can't let it go. I'm just I
can't understand and and and SGA. You know, was he
(11:05):
talking about Lebron Like, seriously, I don't want to be
playing till I'm in my forties. I got kids in time.
I want to spend with my kids and all that.
And I think that is a little bit of it.
Where Lebron, you've been around for a long time. I
don't know what else there is, you know what I
mean that you're chasing even if you win, You're not
(11:25):
passing Michael Jordan. You got I hate to break it
to you. You're the fu Foute Finals failure of all time.
You got more losses, you know, than any other former.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
MVP. It's a fact that the funny, what's Tom Brady
the low man? I'm jumping off your boat. I'm just
saying and go, that's it. I just I couldn't disagree
more with you, selfish. Don't forget the massault, Kevin Durant,
that's right, the most sensitive of all time, the missault.
Very nice.
Speaker 5 (11:58):
Well, I'm listening about whatever your oade is right now,
let me figure out how ohe for you look at me.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
I'm the hop you are the boat. I am not
buying anything you selling right now.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
This is this.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I am not you at ross right now, I'm not
buying that deal.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
You love your.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Career, correct me if I'm wrong. Yes, but I'm not
going to be here forever. You already are you and
you have se.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Now you might not be, but you I'm not Bob
Bryan and those guys. So that's where I was going.
Speaker 8 (12:27):
Who eighty years those dudes, I'm serious, Like, no, I
know all right, we've seen it if you went out
the guys.
Speaker 5 (12:33):
No, guys eighty years old. I'm not saying you're old.
What I'm saying is you're in a career where you
already had it for you know however long forty years
almost forty years, and you could have it if you
chose to another ten fifteen.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
We see it. We talk about the guys and gals
that we see sports is not that you.
Speaker 5 (12:50):
Come in at twenty twenty one, two three and you
might get four or five or in some cases ten
years fifteen. This is right, and so this is something
that they know what's going to end. It has an
expiration date, and they want to enjoy it as long
as possible because at the end of the year, probably
for us or Chris Paul and these guys, that is
it for the rest of your life. Well, look, they
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don't have the luxury of us getting to run our
mouths for another thirty forty years.
Speaker 9 (13:15):
You know.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
If we chose to look at where Chris.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
Paul is again, like he's been on fifteen teams, Like like, seriously,
what possibly I start the question do you want to
be around your family?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Do you love your wife? I think it's serious and
I'm gonna tell you because it ain't the money.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
Trust, it ain't the money because they don't make any money,
you know, like the veterans minimum.
Speaker 5 (13:37):
I'm not making their run. I think their spouses came
into this, especially the guys that were naming. You're naming
or Russ. Russ has been with his lady, his wife
now for years. They both for at UCLA. Chris Paul
been with her for years. I get it, Lebron, we
know their story. My point is there has been a
sign on I know what this is. I know I
signed up for. Lebron always talks about how much he
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owes her on the back in Savannah and the children
because they had to sacrifice so much for me to
go do this thing.
Speaker 3 (14:04):
That I believe I was here for and I'm great
for and they are. Tom Brady did it for forty
five Tom Brady. Tom Brady came, Tom Brady money came
in later with the wife. No gods I name kind
of they've been with no.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
But also he also got to the point where he
missed training camp.
Speaker 3 (14:22):
Do you know what I mean? Because he's overstayed Tom in.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
My opinion, and again I wasn't sitting in the you know,
in at the house when they're having these conversations. I
think one of the differences is she was very vocal about, Hey, man,
this's got to be it.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
Hey, this needs to be it. Hey we done? Hey,
what about your family?
Speaker 5 (14:38):
What I assume to be with the Chris pause and
Wes Rustbrook and I kind of know some people you know,
like you know They're very much all in the whole family, brothers, family,
everybody's all in on. This was the ride that we've
all taken because of you. You have kind of been
the chosen one. You have this amazing opportunity to change
your life, our lives, better lives, and do something. But
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he making that kind of money now, it's not the money.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
No, And my point is now, at some point to
just be on another team, to just be on the bench,
to just be mopping up, why would you want to
put yourself It would be like it would be like
me sticking around Fox Sports Radio and uh, I don't
know Scott saying do you want to do uh two
midday hours where nobody's listening?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
Do you want to do that? I deal with you
right now? What time slot? Ron midnight? I said night?
Tholl you No, I didn't mean. He didn't We know
who he didn't mean.
Speaker 6 (15:36):
Men.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Do you are to turn now? Let me roll my
sneezeer now because I know him be scrapping.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Rob G?
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Where'd your head go?
Speaker 5 (15:43):
Because rob G? No, he finna be scrapping. Yes, Finnah
finna be scrapping. Tell me My point is I'm good.
I don't want to change spots.
Speaker 3 (15:54):
I'm good is these dudes are doing something that me
and you were.
Speaker 5 (15:59):
You had to baseball back or stick or whatever y'all
using in New York back in the day, and I
had the basketball and I'm shooting hoops, or we had
the tennis racket, whatever it is, and they're getting to
do something they absolutely love to do.
Speaker 3 (16:11):
That's such a small minority of people get to do.
Speaker 5 (16:13):
You get to be an NBA player four hundred and
fifty and out of eight billion people on the Earth,
I think they're gonna milk it. And Chris Paul gets
to be a leader, gets to be around, gets to
be that old vet.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
On the team. Those young players are like, dude, can
this guy go sit out? You know what every team needs?
Can you go sit down?
Speaker 5 (16:31):
We got the first seven, eight guys who really are
gonna play eight nine guys, The last three four or
five guys ain't playing, and we need some leadership. We
need some locker room guys. You know what charl Berkeley
always talk about. He always talks about that he had
his vets and how grateful I mean, I mean my guys.
You talk about people who praise their mentors. He brings
them up every other week. How he didn't know how
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to dress, he didn't know how to do money, He
didn't know about the bank cut, he didn't know about all.
How do I get a house? How do I be
become a professional?
Speaker 3 (16:58):
You need those You could do all that.
Speaker 8 (16:59):
They don't need to be on a team. They could
be an assistant coach, they could be a the team
have to be on a team. So yeah, I just
think I think it's overstated. I think you're overstating, like
these dudes are like third mid thirties or you know,
thirty six, or they'll have the rest of the life.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But they played a long time, is my point, Like
there's a shelf life.
Speaker 3 (17:20):
Sometimes this body wants me. Sometimes it's great.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
To walk away on that kind of level, like just
to be on yet another team, here's the last.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
One I'm gonna bring.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, there are kids in this country who don't know
how great Vince Carter was.
Speaker 3 (17:35):
Okay, look at his stats. He played so.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Long, all of his stats numbers have dropped, and now
a lot of people won't even consider it.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
Go like he was okay round. Yeah, he had a
two separate careers.
Speaker 1 (17:48):
He had a career as a bench player that nobody
knows about, and he was a really a star player.
He's stuck around too long. I think that's where you
could get hurt if you stick around too long.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
I just think there's such a small mind minority of
guys who do this, like who we can even have
these conversations about that is worth it?
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Man.
Speaker 5 (18:05):
If I get to make hey, I make two three
four million dollars, which again, money really ain't the issue
at that point for some of these guys, and I
get to do the thing I love, I just think
why not?
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Why not? And the most important, I think their families
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (18:18):
You.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Savannah knows, Lebron Russell Westbrover, the wife for years, Chris
papably now whyfe for a year.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
They kind of know. The fans all in. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
Tom Brady's wife knew too, and she bounced. He went
to fifty two years old and she told him, hey, bruh,
this is it.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
No why but she knew they were all living off
of Tom Brady and TV twelve and all that.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
He told him. She gave baby, She gave the aultimatum. Hey, bro,
I'm just telling you.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
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Speaker 3 (18:54):
Rob G.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
I know there was some chatter, you know, the talking
heads on television and Patrick Holmes and what he's done
this year. Their offense obviously has gotten better, but people
are starting to mention him as a maybe winning the MVP.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
Yeah, it's not just the talking heads, Rob because Lamar Mitchell,
who text me, by the way, says, great job with
Sheckel City. Keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
You thank you, new tower coming. Yes, don't hit the
reset button again, keep doing it, uh, Lamar Mitchell. Bet MGM.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
Friends of the Show put out the updated NFL MVP
odds today, and I'll give you one guess who is
now the favorite, a slight favorite, but the favorite nonetheless
to win the award this season. It's not Lamar Jackson
opened up as the favorite. It's not Matthew Stafford. It's
(19:50):
not even Jared Goff. It's not even my arch nemesis
Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
No, he doesn't.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
It is none other than mister three and three himself,
Patrick Mahomes at plus two hundred to win the NFL
MVP at bet MGM, he is the favorite.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Right now, here we go again. They're living in the past.
They so want Patrick Mahomes to be that guy, and
I get it. They're living in the past of what
he used to be. And even this year, like last year,
he didn't get one single first place vote for MVP,
and this year he should not get if we were
(20:32):
voting right now, one single vote, not one. First of all,
the Chiefs are three and three. The teams that he's
beaten have a record of seven and twelve. He'd beat
Baltimore one and five, the Giants two and five, and
the Lions four and two. Okay, his passer rating, he's
(20:53):
had four games so far under ninety two, the league average.
That's that's right under ninety two. He also beat quarterbacks
like Cooper Rush Russell Wilson, so he beats some also rams,
(21:14):
which is fine.
Speaker 7 (21:15):
Here's the other part. Patrick Mahomes is not rob g
repeat after me, not.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Nt in the top twenty in completion, not in the
top twenty.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
Wow, in completions.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
You know where he is in passer rating eighteenth, that's
below middle of the pack, which is fifteen sixteenth. Right,
He's eighteenth passer rating, seventh in touchdown passes with one
more than Lamar who's miss games, and he's tied with Tua,
(21:53):
whose team can't win. Stop with wanting to fall in
love with Patrickrick Mahomes because what he did to start
his career, I'll give it to you. It was magical.
It was unbelievable to watch. He's not that dude, dear,
three and three, he's twentieth in completion percentage, twentieth to zero. Wow,
(22:23):
eighteenth quarter passer rating. How is that MVP? No, that's
not MVP when your team is three and three, you
hear me, saga, I'm right, I'm totally right. Patrick Mahomes
deserves zero and VP votes right here, right now at
(22:47):
three and three. So you're wrong, per usual. Now here's
why you're wrong. He's not gonna win it.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
But the idea that he is going to be the leader,
to me is not crazy because people, this is what
I said you three when they beat the Baltimore Ravens.
I said, this offense is about to explode, and since
then it has for him. Since then, this offense is clicked.
Last season, you kept bringing up how the stats were
very close to Aaron Rodgers this season. Right now, he
has eleven touchdowns and two interceptions. He's on the roll
(23:17):
right now, fifteen plus fifteen hundred yards to be more
like the Patrick Mahomes of old you mentioned last season.
I think last season is gonna work in his favorite
this season because the last two seasons, actually Patrick mahonmes
numbers weren't spectacular. Patrick Mahomes wasn't looking like what we
had become a custom to seeing. I think that is
why people are gonna go, that's the guy we knew.
(23:39):
Those are the plays we used to seeing. Look at
him going down the field way more than he's going
to the last couple of years. Look at him have
any spectacular plays, and not to mention, I think that
it's gonna work in favor of him that the season
won't be a fifteen to two kind of I think
the season gonna be one of those They're gonna lose
a couple, then they're gonna win three four in a row.
They're gonna lose a couple, and they're gonna work their
way into the postseason. And I think that's gonna work
(24:00):
in his favor because people will be able to see, oh,
he had to do it a different way. Right, it
wasn't just easy and they were fifteen to two and
they just won all these games. I think it's gonna
be that's gonna work in his favor, that they're gonna
feel like, Man, what about the numbers.
Speaker 8 (24:12):
I'm telling you so remember the twentieth and eight six
isn't today I hear.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
I'm telling you about projection. No, they're talking about right
now he should be the lead on Favorite based on
these numbers because they don't see what's coming.
Speaker 10 (24:26):
No, they don't see what's coming. He hasn't beaten any body,
he hasn't been said he was coming. No, I don't
see it because he didn't anybody. He's number one receivers.
Speaker 9 (24:36):
Oh, it's about what you've done and what you've accomplished
to this point, and right now, no one is if
they're safety and Rosse already eighteen the odds on Favor
on the road, what is it?
Speaker 5 (24:51):
What Rob?
Speaker 3 (24:52):
It's the odds on Favorite.
Speaker 5 (24:53):
I'm just talking about the MVP, meaning they're saying we
still have ten weeks left. No, there is who we
think he's gonna win it, and they're seeing what he's
about to keep doing for another ten weeks. I don't
think he's going to win it, but the idea that
why he would be the favorite makes sense because he's
going to do it. Ended up statistically, he's gonna be
right there with the top two three guys. Statistically, he's
(25:16):
probably gonna beat most of the guys.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
If he's eighteenth and twenties. You're gonna jump over all
this because it's literally coming. I told you this against Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
I literally told you all the dink and dunk stuff
gone two hundred and seventy yards, four touchdowns against the
Ravens in the next time touchdown on Lamar who not
even playing. Well, we know Lamar is always MVP candidate.
We know that that's not even that's Lamar's Lamar, And
so this is he's on his way and they're already
(25:45):
seeing he's doing this, and Rashid Rice is getting ready
to come back, and he's starting to look like him.
He's starting to look stylistically like him, doing plays going downfield,
doing trick plays are worthy.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
It's on the way where.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
He's gonna be right back in that candidate, and I
already told you she's gonna be right back in an
AFC championship game.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
We're all gonna see here and be like, wait, how
did this happen? Again? It's on the way and to me,
it doesn't take a rocket science to see that. Now.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
I still again, I think Baker Mayfield is the leader
and probably as long as the team doesn't go take
some epic fall, because he should be getting receivers back
because he's doing this without a lot of guys. I
think is Baker's year. I think it's gonna be a
great storyline. I think it's Baker. But the idea that
Patrick Mahomes won't finish top be right there because we
know who actually should be getting it other than Baker.
It's me John Robinson. But we know running backs don't
(26:29):
get it for some reason. Running backs you only get
the Offensive Player of the year, guys, So here's your
Just call it the running back of the year called
Quarterback of the year, so we can all stop acting
like an MVP can be anything but a quarterback. So
just call it the MVQ Most Valuable Quarterback Awards.
Speaker 1 (26:44):
Isn't Rice also coming off the torn acl Lon's going
off the suspension, right, but he's still coming in. That
was that was a bag It usually takes a couple
of years to recover from that, so you're acting like
he's gonna automatically. I know he's been on suspension, but
he's coming off from major injury too.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
I'm not worried about that. Okay,
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