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October 16, 2025 27 mins

Rob and Kelvin tell us if this move to Pittsburgh has made Aaron Rodgers a likeable figure once again, and tell us if the impending death of the Notre Dame-USC rivalry proves that college football has sacrificed tradition for profits. Plus, sports media personality Mark Gunnels breaks down the biggest Big Ten college football headlines in this week’s edition of College Kids. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So SGA was asked about this idea of these guys
playing late into their thirties, even into their forties. Right,
Here's what SGA said. I definitely think I can. I
won't though, I won't want to miss that much of
my kid's life. But at a certain point of your career,
when you reach your peak and I don't fall, guys
are still playing.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
They love the game.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
But I just feel like you play this game ultimately
to see the best version of me I can be.
Once I figure that out and I start going down,
then it's like, Okay, what am I playing for now?

Speaker 2 (00:27):
Well? Flash forward to today.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Russell Westbrook, former Laker, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz,
former Nugget, former Clipper, former former.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Oh we don't have all day?

Speaker 1 (00:43):
My god, I signed a one year VET minimum deal
to join the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the
Western Conference. Rob what's up with guys like Russ and
others who just can't seem to hang it up.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
It's just they're selfish and they can't let it go,
you know what I mean? Like seriously, because not only
are they just they're taking up a roster spot somebody
else could probably play.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
They're not gonna get anything from it.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Russ isn't gonna win a championship, which he's never won.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
And I get it.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
He just wants to be on the bus, wants to
be on the team, you know, wants to still be
relevant where they're still gonna talk about Ross And he
made a shot or a basket or steal and look
how much he plays with energy or whatever. And a
lot of these guys can't let it go. I'm just
I can't understand. And and Sga, you know, was he

(01:39):
talking about Lebron, Like, seriously, I don't want to be
playing till I'm in my forties. I got kids in time.
I want to spend with my kids and all that.
And I think that is a little bit of it.
Where Lebron, you've been around for a long time. I
don't know what else there is. You know what I
mean that you're chasing even if you win, you're not

(01:59):
passing Michael Jordan. You got I hate to break it
to you. You're the Ffolt Finals failure of all time.
You got more losses, you know, than any other former MVP.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's a fact that the funny what's Tom Brady the
lowloat man, I'm jumping off your boat. I'm just saying,
and go. That's it. I couldn't disagree more with you, selfish.
Don't forget the massault, Kevin Durant, that's right, the most
sensitive of all time, the massault. Very nice. Well, I'm
listening about whatever your ode is right now. Let me

(02:34):
figure out how oe for you look at me. I'm
the you are the boat. I am not buying anything
you selling right now. This is this. I am not
you at ross right now. I'm not buying that deal.
You love your career. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yes,
but I'm not going to be here forever.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
You already are you now?

Speaker 2 (02:55):
You might not be, but you'm not. I'm not Bob,
Bryan and Nosey. So that's where I was going. Who
eighty years those dude, I'm serious, Like, no, I know,
all right, we've seen it if you went out the guys, No,
guys at eighty years old. I'm not saying you're oh.
What I'm saying is you're in a career where you
already had it for you know, however, long forty years
almost forty years, and you could have it if you

(03:16):
chose to another ten fifteen. We see it. We talk
about the guys and gals that we see sports is
not that you come in at twenty twenty one, two
three and you might get four or five or in
some cases ten years fifteen. This is right, and so
this is something that they know is going to end.
It has an expiration date, and they want to enjoy

(03:37):
it as long as possible because at the end of
the year, probably for us or Chris Paul and these guys,
that is it for the rest of your life. Well, look,
they don't have the luxury of us getting to run
our mouths for another thirty forty years.

Speaker 4 (03:49):
You know.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
If we chose to look at where Chris.

Speaker 3 (03:51):
Paul is again, like he's been on fifteen teams, like like, seriously,
what what possibly? I start to question, do you want
to be around your family?

Speaker 2 (04:01):
Do you love your wife? I think it's and I'm
gonna tell you because it ain't.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
The money, Trust, it ain't the money because they don't
make any money, you know, like the veterans minimum I'm
making the run.

Speaker 2 (04:11):
I think their spouses came into this, especially the guys
that were naming You're naming or Russ. Russ has been
with his lady, his wife now four years. They both
r at UCLA. Chris Paul been with her for years.
Get it, Lebron, we know their story. My point is
there has been a sign on I know what this is.
I know I signed up for. Lebron always talks about

(04:32):
how much he owes her on the back end, Savannah
and the children, because they had to sacrifice so much
for me to go do this thing that I believe
I was here for and I'm great for. And Tom
Brady did it for forty five tom Brady, tom Brady
came tom Brady money came in later with the wife.
No guys I name kind of they've been with no.
But also he also.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
Got to the point where he missed training camp. Do
you know what I mean?

Speaker 2 (04:56):
Because he's overstayed Tom in my opinion, and again I
once sitting in you know, at the house when they're
having these conversations. I think one of the differences is
she was very vocal about, Hey, man, it's got to
be it. Hey, this needs to be it. Hey we done? Hey,
what about your family? What I assume to be with
the Chris Pause and west Rustbrook and I kind of
know some people you know, like you know, they're very

(05:19):
much all in the whole family, brothers, family, everybody's all
in on. This was the ride that we've all taken
because of you. You have kind of been the chosen one.
You have this amazing opportunity to change your life, our lives,
better lives, and do something. Yeah, but he's not making
that kind of money now. It's not the money.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
No, And my point is now, at some point to
just be on another team, to just be on the bench,
to just be mopping up, why would you want to
put yourself It would be like it would be like
me chicking around Fox Sports Radio and I don't know
Scott saying, do you want to do two midday hours

(05:56):
where nobody's listening?

Speaker 2 (05:57):
Do you want to do that? I'm dealing with you
right now. What time slot? Rom midnight? I said night
thall you No, I didn't mean. He didn't we know
who he didn't mean. Men. You are to turn now
me roll my sneeze it now because I know him
be scrapping, rob G. Where'd your head go? Because Rob

(06:18):
robb G, No, he finna be scrapping, Yes, Finna finna
be scrapping. Tell My point is I'm good. I don't
want to change spots. I'm good we have is these
dudes are doing something that me and you were. You
had the baseball back or stick or whatever y'all using
in New York back in the day, and I had
the basketball and I'm shooting hoops, so we had the

(06:40):
tennis racket whatever it is. And they're getting to do
something they absolutely love to do. That's such a small
minority of people get to do. You get to be
an NBA player four hundred and fifty and out of
eight billion people on the Earth, I think they're gonna
milk it. And Chris Paul gets to be a leader,
gets to be around, gets to be that old vet
on the team, play like, dude, can this guy go

(07:01):
sit out what every team needs? Can you go, sawn?
We got the first seven, eight guys who really are
going to play eight nine guys. The last three four
or five guys ain't playing, and we need some leadership.
We need some locker room guys. You know what charn
Berkeley always talk about. He always talks about that he
had his vets and how grateful I mean, I mean
my guys. You talk about people who praise their mentors

(07:22):
he brings them up every other week. How he didn't
know how to dress, He didn't know how to do money,
He didn't know about the bank, he didn't know about all.
How do I get a house? How do I be
become a professional? You need those You could do all that.
They don't need to be on the team. They could
be an assistant coach, that could be a I would
be on the team. I have to be on the team.
So yeah, I just think I think it's overstated. I
think you're overstating, Like these dudes are like third mid

(07:45):
thirties or you know, thirty six, or they will have
the rest of the lives.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
But they played a long time, is my point. Like
there's a shelf life. Sometimes this body wants me. Sometimes
it's great to walk away on that kind of level,
Like just to be on yet another team, here's the
last one.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
I'm gonna bring.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, there are kids in this country who don't know
how great Vince Carter was.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Okay, look at his stats.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
He played so long, all of his stats numbers have dropped,
and now a lot of people won't even consider it.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
Go like he was okay a year run.

Speaker 3 (08:19):
He had two separate careers he had a career as
a bench player that nobody knows about, and he was
a really star player. He's stuck around too long. I
think that's where you could get hurt if you stick
around too I just.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Think there's such a small minority of guys who do this,
like who we can even have these conversations about that
is worth it?

Speaker 3 (08:38):
Man.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
If I get to make hey, I make two three
four million dollars, which again, money really ain't the issue
at that point for some of these guys, and I
get to do the thing I love, I just think
why not? Why not? And the most important, I think
their families know what it is.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
You.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
Savannah knows Lebron, Russell westbry with the wife for years,
Chris probably now White for a year.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
They kind of know. The fans all like yeah, tom
Brady's wife knew too. She bounced.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
He went to fifty two years old and she told him, hey, brouh,
this is it.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
No why but she knew they were all living off
for Tom Brady and TB twelve and all that.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
He told him, Baby he gave the automatic. Baby, Hey, bro,
I'm just telling you.

Speaker 4 (09:15):
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Speaker 2 (09:28):
Rob G.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I know there was some chatter, you know, the talking
heads on television and Patrick Mahomes and what he's done
this year. Their offense obviously has gotten better, but people
are starting to mention him as a maybe winning the MVP.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
It's not just the talking heads, Rob, because Lamar Mitchell,
who texted me by the way, says, great job with
Sheckel City.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Keep doing what you're doing, Thank you, thank you, new
tower coming. Yeah, yes, don't hit the reset button again, keep.

Speaker 1 (09:59):
Doing it, Lamar Mitchell. BETMGM. Friends of the Show put
out the updated NFL MVP odds today, and I'll give
you one guess who is now the favorite, a slight favorite,
but the favorite nonetheless to win the award this season.
It's not Lamar Jackson opened up as the favorite. It's

(10:21):
not Matthew Stafford. It's not even Jared Goff. It's not
even my arch nemesis Baker Mayfield.

Speaker 2 (10:29):
No, he doesn't.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
It is none other than mister three and three himself,
Patrick Mahomes at plus two hundred to win the NFL
MVP at BETMGM, he is the favorite.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
Right now, here we go again. They're living in the past.
They so want Patrick Mahomes to be that guy, and
I get it. They're living in the past of what
he used to be. And even this year, like last year,
he didn't get one single first place vote for MVP,
and this year he should not get if we were

(11:06):
voting right now, one single vote, not one. First of all,
the Chiefs are three and three. The teams that he's
beaten have a record of seven and twelve. He beat
Baltimore one and five, the Giants two and five, and
the Lions four and two. Okay, his passer rating, he's

(11:27):
had four games so far under ninety two the league average.
That's that's right under ninety two. He also beat quarterbacks
like Cooper Rush Russell Wilson, so he beats some also rams,

(11:48):
which is fine.

Speaker 2 (11:49):
Here's the other part.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Patrick Mahomes is not rob g repeat after me, not
n ot in the top twenty in completion, not in
the top twenty.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Wow, in completions.

Speaker 3 (12:06):
You know where he is in passer rating eighteenth, that's
below middle of the pack, which is fifteen sixteenth. Right,
He's eighteenth passer rating, seventh in touchdown passes with one
more than Lamar who's miss games, and he's tied with Tua,

(12:27):
whose team can't win. Stop with wanting to fall in
love with Patrick Mahomes because what he did to start
his career, I'll give it to you. It was magical.
It was unbelievable to watch. He's not that dude, Dear,
three and three, he's twentieth in completion percent of twentieth

(12:51):
to zero. Wow, eighteenth quarter passer rating.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
How is that MVP?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
No, that's not MVP when your team is three and three.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
You hear me, saga, I'm right, I'm totally right. Patrick
Mahomes deserves zero.

Speaker 3 (13:17):
MVP votes right here, right now at three and three.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
So you're wrong, per usual. Now here's why you're wrong.
He's not gonna win it. But the idea that he
is going to be the leader, to me is not
crazy because people, this is what I said to you
three when they beat the Baltimore Ravens. I said, this
offense is about to explode, and since then it has
for him, since then, this offense is click. Last season,

(13:43):
you kept bringing up out his stats were very close
to Aaron Rodgers this season. Right now, he has eleven
touchdowns and two interceptions. He's on the roll right now
fifteen plus fifteen hundred yards to be more like the
Patrick Mahomes of old you mentioned last season. I think
last season is gonna work in his favorite this season
because the last two seasons, actually Patrick Mahone's numbers weren't spectacular.

(14:04):
Patrick Mahomes wasn't looking like what we had become accustom
to seeing. I think that is why people are gonna go,
that's the guy we knew. Those are the players we
used to seeing. Look at him going down the field
way more than he's going the last couple of years.
Look at him have any spectacular plays, and not to mention.
I think that it's gonna work in favor of him
that the season won't be a fifteen and two kind

(14:25):
of I think the season gonna be one of those
They're gonna lose a couple, then they're gonna win three four
in a row. They're gonna lose a couple, and they're
gonna work their way into the postseason. And I think
that's gonna work in his favor because people be able
to see all he had to do it a different way. Right,
it wasn't just easy and they were fifteen to two
and they just won all these games. I think it's
gonna be that's gonna work in his favor, that they're
gonna feel like.

Speaker 3 (14:44):
Man, what about the numbers. I'm telling you da right,
So remember the twentieth and eight six.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
This isn't today. I hear him. I'm telling you about
that projection. No, they're talking about right now. He should
be the lead favor.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Based on these numbers because they see what's coming.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
I don't see what's coming.

Speaker 3 (15:01):
He hasn't beaten Eddy Gody, he hasn't beaten said he
was coming.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
No, I don't see it because he didn't want anybody.
He's number one receivers.

Speaker 3 (15:10):
Oh, it's about what you've done and what you've accomplished
to this point. And right now, if they're Saete and
Ross already eighteen the.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Odds on favorite on the road, what is it, Rob,
it's the odds on favorite. I'm just talking about the MVP.
Meaning they're saying we still have ten weeks left. No,
there's who we think is gonna win it, and they're
seeing what he's about to keep doing for another ten
weeks I don't think he's going to win it, but
the idea that why he would be the favorite makes

(15:43):
sense because he's going to do it ended up statistically,
he's gonna be right there with the top two three guys. Statistically,
he's probably gonna beat most of the guys.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
If he's eighteenth and twenties, you're gonna jump over all
because it's literally coming.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
I told you this against Baltimore. I literally told you
all the dink and dunk stuff gone two hundred and
seventy yards, four touchdowns against the Ravens in the next
time touchdown on Lamar who not even playing well, we
know Lamar is always MVP candidate. We know that that's
not even that's Lamar's Lamar, And so this is he's

(16:17):
on his way and they're already seeing he's doing this,
and Rashid Rice is getting ready to come back, and
he's starting to look like him. He's starting to look
stylistically like him, doing plays, going downfield, doing trick plays
are worthy. It's on the way where he's gonna be
right back in that candidate, And I already told you
chie's gonna be right back in the AFC Championship Game.
We're all gonna see here and be like, wait, how
did this happen? Again? It's on the way and to me,

(16:39):
it doesn't take a rocket science to see that. Now.
I still again, I think Baker Mayfield is a leader
and probably as long as the team doesn't go take
some epic fall, because he should be getting receivers back
because he's doing this without a lot of guys, I
think is Baker's year. I think it's gonna be a
great storyline. I think it's Baker. But the idea that
Patrick Mahomes won't finish top be right there because we
know who actually should be getting it other than Baker.

(17:00):
It's me John Robinson. But we know running backs don't
get it good for some reason. Running backs you only
get the offensive Player of the year, guys, So here's
your Just call it the running back of the year
called Quarterback of the year. So we can all stop
acting like an VP can be anything but a quarterback.
So just call it the MVQ Most Valu Quarterback Awards.
Isn't Rice also coming off the torn ACL loosing off

(17:21):
the suspension, right, but he's still coming from that was
that was?

Speaker 3 (17:26):
It usually takes a couple of years to recover from that.
So you're acting like he's gonna automatically. I know he's
been on suspension, but he's coming off a major injury too.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
I'm not worried about that. Okay.

Speaker 4 (17:35):
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
Rob G. We do have.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
A big time rivalry, a blue blood kind of thing
that people if you watch college football and I remember
covering a Notre Dame you see game back in the
eighties when Rocket Ishmael was a player for Notre Dame
and I covered him in high school right back in

(18:12):
nineteen eighty six, And this must be like nineteen eighty
seven or something like that, like a year or so later,
nineteen eighty eight at the latest. And what a big deal.
And you know that the history of that rivalry, Rob G.
The the rivalry is of course, I've been threatened now
right because this is the last one.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Yeah blinking, you might miss it.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Just like Rob Parker's fledgling radio career, it could be
over before you know it.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (18:40):
Forty years later. The same thing with Notre Dame in USC.
The contract is not being renewed, Rob Parker, That's happened
a few times. Oh yeah, listen, they say, you ain't
been in the business till that happened. In all seriousness,
this Saturday, if things don't change, will be the last
time you see Notre Dame taking on USC in the

(19:00):
regular season.

Speaker 2 (19:01):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
They've been negotiating allegedly all off season. Notre Dame, by
all accounts, wants to continue. USC is a little bit
trepidacious because their feeling is a unless they expand the
playoff beyond twelve teams where the Big ten is guaranteed
four to five spots.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Why could they earn it. There was no incentive for
us to do.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
And so much so they've actually started speaking outside of
their own network Big Fox, CBS, so on and so forth,
as it ain't Netflix. If you're willing to pay Bucho
mucho dollars, then maybe we'll continue this rivalry. But unless
you do, it's all to be determined. We always try
to strong on people for money.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Well that's what you do the restaurants.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
No, but I gave you five, I want more shrimp
than that. Don't skip me on my shrimpies. I just
want what I paid for, that's all. I want, nothing extra,
just what I paid for.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
All Right, Well, this, I absolutely believe that we're in
a situation where we need to just call college sports
professional sports, because that's essentially what's going on here. We've
been right, but I mean at this point now with
the I L and and all these realignments, and historically
these schools were in the Pac twelve and this was
the Big ten and I was really like the Big
twenty five, so many schools in it, and realignment of

(20:19):
of these conferences. Man, we need to just call what
it is. It's a professional sports light at this point.
And I believe college football has sacrifice tradition for profits.
One of the things that separated the difference is between
you know, pros and the college. Were the traditions that
you had. This school was going to play this school
and this mattered this and you kind of knew what
you were gonna get and it was popping circumstance around it. Right,

(20:40):
all that matter rivalries and tradition. You know that the
the blue bloods, well that doesn't matter anymore. And you're
starting to see that with a lot of these rivalries. Now,
I do think they're going to keep a couple. But
I'll tell you when I knew that this was in
jeopardy was when you were going to have Ohio State
and Michigan not play. When they had started like the
legends and the leaders, whatever the visions are, and they

(21:01):
were like, all right, well they're gonna do this, and
with these new teams in the Big Ten, if you
do the scheduling, Ohio State may not play Michigan every
other year or something like that. And people lost their
minds because that's one of the best, if not the
best rivalry in all the college football. And so that's
just where we are, man. And it's disappointing because that's
one of the things you got used to, you grew
and you knew. And I'll give you an example. There

(21:24):
are years Michigan wasn't great. National championship wasn't a big thing,
like even for them last season years, what are you
talking about? The national champions in national jymps. So they
never played for that anyone. But if you ruined Ohio State,
or if Ohio State ruined Michigan, or if you're all
burning you ruin Alabama's year or vice versa or LSU.

(21:44):
These were the great things that made college football great.
And the idea that you would lose this you're just
completely kind of taking the fabric away from college football.
But again, this has been kind of eroding over the years.
These are the things that have been happening slowly but
surely over the years. And again I brought it up too.
We saw it first in college basketball with the one

(22:04):
and Don's. Now you have your version of a one
and done in college football, which we know they can't
leave and go to the pros, but what you can
do is leave a school and you're starting to have
where guys wait in quarterback, that's the main position. You
want to know right now he's going over there, and
he's going over there leaving. No, I'm not mad if
I'm saying you're losing the like the this is my guy.
He's been there for two three years, he's gonna fight.

(22:25):
He lost two years versus team. Now he's gonna get
him back for two years. We're losing all of that.
So that's just it's par for the course right now
with where we are and the college sports. But you
hate to see it, because that's what made the game
the game, if you will. But that's just the current
state of college football. It is all about profits, period.
He was all about profits. But you kept some traditions.

(22:45):
Traditions are out the window.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
Everything everything's lost. Nope, they don't care. They don't care
about any of that. They want as much money as
they can make. They don't care. If you're gonna kill
traditions and different stuff. It's a shame to be honest,
because everything can't be for sale. Okay, and I've said
this over and over. That's why I have the utmost
respect for like the Dodgers and the Yankees. The Yankee

(23:08):
Stadium tomorrow could be American Express Stadium for gazillion dollars.
Dodger Stadium could be American Express Stadium for gazillion tomorrow tomorrow,
and they.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Refuse to do it.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
The Yankees could have black uniforms, will they do it?
They could put names on the back so they could
sell more UNI jerseys or whatever. No, there's a tradition
of certain stuff that needs to stay. Everything can't be
for sale. And it's a shame for people who have
always loved the whole Notre Dame in USC and that

(23:43):
and this is the last one, and out of negotiating,
and we might sell it to the highest bidder and
figure it out. And we saw it in boxing. People
ask why boxing isn't as big. They decided to take
the pay per view money.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
We don't care. I was a kid.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I used to listen to boxing on the No kid
today could imagine listening to a fight on the radio.
They were so afraid that people wouldn't buy the fight
that they didn't want it on the radio. There are
people who are driving in cars who can't watch the fight.
Why would you take that away? You really believe that
that's what they done. All the fights come on after

(24:20):
midnight Eastern time. All the kids, all of nine and
ten and eleven year old boys who are sports fans,
can't watch, so you don't grow up with it. I
watched Muhammad Ali on a Saturday afternoon fight Jimmy Young, ABC,
Wild World of Sports, Howard Cosell Saturday afternoon. They didn't say, like, oh, no,

(24:42):
every fight's gotta be the Saturday night in Las Vegas
at midnight. To me, no, to sell the sport, to
make fans of the sport and I think if you
keep doing this with college football at some point, I
know nobody believes in and all college football whatever. Don't
forget that the NBA was on tape to lay at
one point. I know nobody can believe that because I

(25:04):
grew up and I watched it with a local sportscaster
at eleven o'clock. At eleven o'clock news would say, Hey,
coming up next on Channel two, here the NBA Finals
game number three, And if you're gonna watch it, turn
down your sound outside of score so that you don't
win a game that was the game. Can you imagine that?

(25:24):
You can't imagine that. No, but that's what happened. And
you know what I think is a big factor in
this is gambling. I think gambling parlays all that good
stuff is the new like the new attention, Like I
don't need the rivalries. I don't even cause, like I
mentioned with the transfer, I don't know all the quarterbacks.
I don't even know the players anymore.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
I just know I'm keeping up on it via the fantasies,
via the gambling. And that's a huge thing. I think
now is just kind of the new way of watching
new entertainment, the new versus just the pageantry of it
all and the rivalries. But to be honest, this is
bigger than USC because USC, on the flip side of this,
they're not the one that draws the needle per se.
When you look at the top twenty five games this season,

(26:04):
USC is not in a single one of those. USC
being in La as we are, USC is very fickle.
Right when USC is popping, you got Pete Carroll, you
got all the things going on. They're huge. When they're not,
they're not. So that's you had Kayleb Williams, a Heisman
Trophy winner and a Heisman Trophy nominee or you know,
finalists or like a consideration the next year. Nobody was

(26:24):
really talking about USC. But it's bigger than them because
to me, it's other states, right, it's just the Alabama's
of the worlds where you got the Auburn in Alabama.
It's the Michigan's, Ohio's to Texas states where those college
football is huge, steal huge, Florida's of the world huge.
Here in LA it's a little different. Like I said,
if USC ain't great, no one necessarily cares. Dodgers are

(26:44):
great Lakers, You know what are they gonna be? It
becomes all the big conversations. So, but you're starting to
lose all of this man and the last point. College
football playoffs, that's where maybe rivalries were being select You're
gonna get teams that weren't traditional rivals because they're gonna
be competing for titles more so. It might become Georgia,
Ohio State become a rivalry because they're always in the

(27:04):
college football playoffs. It might be become Alabama, you know,
Clemson because they're always in the College Oregon, Michigan because
they're always in the college football playoffs competing. You're gonna
start getting rivalries that weren't traditional rivalries because of college
football playoffs and expansion of it. That's what's going to
become the new rivalry in college football
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