October 20, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us if the New York Giants need to fire Brian Daboll after his team blew an 18-point fourth quarter lead in their loss to the Denver Broncos, debate whether Shohei Ohtani’s 3-home run, 10 strikeout performance in Game 4 of the NLCS was all that impressive. Plus, former Pro Bowl wide receiver and Up on Game co-host TJ Houshmandzadeh swings by to discuss the New York Giants’ meltdown in Denver, why he’s down on Pete Carroll and the Las Vegas Raiders, his optimism surrounding his preseason Super Bowl pick (Los Angeles Chargers), how Daniel Jones has changed the narrative about himself with the Indianapolis Colts, and much more!
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Big Sunday, Big Weekend of sports. Oh yeah, and of
all the storylines that hit outside of wappen on Friday,
which we'll get to you later in the show, the
biggest one to come out of the weekend has to be,
without a doubt, that epic comeback in Denver, the Denver
Broncos come back to stun Jackson Dart and the New
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York Football Giants. They were trailing, then scored through the
first three quarters. Okay, they were up by eighteen points
with six minutes to play. Before yesterday five minutes, NFL
teams had lost one thousand, six hundred and two consecutive
games went trailing by that mount of points with that
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little amount of time, and yet bow Knicks did bow
Knicks things, accounting for four touchdowns thirty three points, in
the fourth quarter and the Denver Broncos prevail thirty three
thirty two over the He.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Got this as usual, Rob g buried the lead.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
If you were if you were my reporter and you
turned into story about the Denver Broncos and not the
New York Football Giants, I would send that story back
because that story was not about the Denver Broncos at all,
zero zip, nada. It was about the New York freaking
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Football Giants who choked down a colossal, colossal game eighteen
points with five minutes to go had never happened.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I'm gonna mirror this to one other situation. Are you ready.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
It's when the Knicks lost to the Pacers with two
forty three to go and they choked down that lead.
Guess what happened. It costs call me, mister Tipps.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
His job. Tom Thibodeau was fired after that.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
And I told you, if you can't get fired off
of that, you can never get fired.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Brian Dabo, pack your bags.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Your life as head coach of the New York freaking
Football Giants is over.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
This is not the first time this year he mishandled
the game against Dallas and it cost him a game.
That's two freaking games this year by him alone.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Are you serious? Denver? My ass? I don't care what
bo Nicks did.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I don't care because if the Giants did what they
were supposed to do, you rush three men and let
the quarterback have all day.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Of course he do for touchdowns. There was no pressure.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
How do you turn a great quarterback into a mediocre
wad you apply to pressure? You're rushing three Come on, Calvin,
you know football. That's why the players walked off. You
neutralize them. Oh but there are eight guys out there
in the dB sor that.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
No, you know, nobody that much time. Thank you. I
don't care who you are. And guess what.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
People run themselves open. They know where they're going. It's
hard on the defense, you know why, because they don't
know where you're going.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Brian Daveball pack your bags? Well, Brian Dabad definitely is texting,
and you know my theory. He is at home right now,
updating the LinkedIn page. He is up now talking to
his agent like, yeah, what you think anything else out there?
Because this is an epic collapse. We know that, ROBJ.
You just mentioned sixteen hundred times.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
You can't be the.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
First of something that happened sixteen hundred times. Now we
know the first is going to happen in anything in life.
That's why it's the first. However, you don't want to
be the first that had happened to And this is
the other thing too. This is the second or third
time that we seen Brian dave Ball have meltdowns on
the field, remember the whole blue tent issue and yelling
at a health persons like man doctor, yelling at a
doctor who's just trying to check up on your you know,
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could be a star quarterback and he's doing his job.
And so you can feel the pressure on day Ball.
You can see the pressure mounting on him. He's overthinking,
he's over correcting, and he's not inspiring his team in
the sense that there's no way you're supposed to lose
this game where you allow them if they score twenty.
I get it that happens people score have a hot
fourth quarter. Thirty three points can't happen in the fourth quarter,
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And especially when somebody on this show said the Giants
are the best defense and they're going to be the
best team in the NFC East.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
His name is Rob G.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Talked about their defense. Well that's why Rob G wants
to talk about Denver.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
No I do.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I am gonna get to Denver on the other side
of this, But that's just all. That's a horrible loss
for a team that had a chance to be building
on something right.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
They had some chance a huge win.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Nobody has expectations, exceprog that they're gonna be anything. But
you'll get a big win like that against the team
people have, you know, Hughes playoff aspiration for you. Feel good,
your young quarterback, your young running back doing some things.
You got some mojo going out there. So that's a
big letdown from your coach. It's a big letdown for
the team. And he's been having these meltdowns the last
two or three weeks. That is starting to make I'm
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imagining folks in New York looking at him and question
him as a head coach. The only other thing I
will say, what the heck is up with the Broncos
where they're supposed to be. Sean Payton, the Hall of
Fame coach. Sean Payton is offensive guru and they can't
freaking score If you take that fourth quarter away in
the fourth quarter against the Eagles three two, now three
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weeks ago, but two weeks prior to that, they have
sixteen points in three games. So I am concerned what
the heck is going on with the Broncos that they're
supposed to be again offs are jugging out with with
Sean Payton, and prior to third to the fourth quarter
they had sixteen points if you take away that fourth
quarter to fourth quarter of the Eagles. So something's up
with the Broncos. But they they found their swag and
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it reminded me of an even greater version of JJ McCarthy.
Remember that JJ McCarthy was trash the first three quarters
and they went crazy in the fourth quarter earlier in
the season Week one, I believe it was. That's what
it looked like. But you can't lose. There's no way
you can lose that game. And there's no way I
want to lose the momentum that I'm building with this
young core of mine.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
If I'm if I'm dayballing the Giants, no doubt. I mean,
what a bad, bad, bad day for the New York
Football Giants. Just just another disaster. And I'm saying I'm
telling you it's like that Knicks game. Like after that they.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yeah, I mean this is it really.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Like it's it's it's it's equivalent because both of those
are historic collapses. Like in that Knicks game, they're up
one nothing against Indiana, do you know what I mean?
Like that changes everything? And now did they lose that game?
They came back and followed that up. And here's the
other thing. If your ownership or whatever, dude, didn't we
just see this with the Cowboys when they allowed the
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Cowboys to tie it and beat them in overtime. This
is not the first time. Anybody who watches the New
York Football Giants closely, there's no way you look at
that and go it's a one off. It's not a
one off enough already, Brian day Ball, look at his
as last three years whatever they want, eleven games or
something like.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Seriously, it's all in the last point for me to
day Ball. Part of being a head coach is controlling
both sides of the ball. And you mentioned it. You
give it up point. They're supposed to be good defensively,
and you give up a bunch of points in Dallas.
Let him come back. You give up all these points
in the fourth quarter. So it can't just be like, oh,
well he's offensive grou look what he's gonna do with
Jackson Dart. It's like, no, you're a you're a head
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coach of the entirety of the team, special teams, defense,
offense as well. So that that's a that's a that's
a game you need to win to beat a good team.
And the Broncos, who have been struggling offensively last three weeks, again,
they've been disappointing as well.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I'm not I'm not the Broncos. I'm not high on
the back. Everybody else is.
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and we are going to talk about show Hail Tani
and what transpired on Friday night, and it's it's a combination.
I mean, obviously he had a tremendous game.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Are we underselling this? Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
No one's taken tremendous game.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
No, it's a tremendous game. But no one's uh taking
that away from him. But let me, let me, let
me sit down and let me explain to you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Okay, you got so much plaining, not explaining, You got
so much plaining to do.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
This is why.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
People get caught up on this whole idea of prisoner
of the moment, because the prisoner of the moment made
it like shohey had done something that nobody had ever done.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Okay, okay, and it's not true. Okay.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
First of all, people have hit three home runs in
a game. Reggie Jackson hit three home runs on three
pitches consecutive pitch by three different pictures in a World
Series game.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
An incredible feat That's how I feel.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Here's the other part, So people, I get it, he's
a unicorn. They're making it like well nobody. Well, yeah,
we know, because only him and Babe Ruth have been
the only guys who are pitched right and hit home
runs at this kind of clip. There's only been two
guys since the twenties. But people keep going.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
He's the first guy, says, of.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Course he is, because nobody else has ever done it.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
That's exactly what nobody else has done it. Hit me out.
You know, nobody else has ever done it. It ain't impressive.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Babe Ruth was the last gual had the opportunity, so
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
But here's the part where they go, they say, the
three home runs. Okay, even though Key k Hernandez had
three home runs in the game playoff game, that didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It's not like that never happened. But then the.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Whole thing is about, oh and he struck out ten,
suck out ten batters. He struck out ten. I'm like, okay,
that's good. But it wasn't like he had shut down
the mighty Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And here's my issue.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Blake Snell pitched eight innings of unbelievable ball against the
Milwaukee Brewers. Yamamodo pisched a complete game against the Milwaukee Brewers.
They were dead on arrival. Shoe Hayed didn't do anything special.
Everybody in their uncle I could have pitched four scoreless
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innings against that team.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
They couldn't hit, they couldn't score any runs.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
So people are making it like he pitched a no
hitter and hit four home runs and on every yet bad.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
That's not what happened. That's not what happened.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
What he did pitching wise was not that impressive against
this Milwaukee Brewers team.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You're screaming in the room by yourself. Nobody else is
you are like in it insane or something.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
No, I'm been a.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Straight tag, no I swear. Listen to your no hold on, Alex,
I'm not the camera on me. Put the camera on.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
It ain't the greatest look at the gold posts. It
ain't like he hit four home runs.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He it ain't like he pitched his shut out a
complete game.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Look how far are you he has to go for you?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
To you now? He had to have four home runs
and pitch all nine innings fourteen ks.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Hey, he's not the greatest player I ever played. It's
so premature, it really is. If you so, I would
be like Okay, I can disagree, but I can understand.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
We'll give you another example, because that's what they tried
to do with Mike Trout with the Angels, that he.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Would Mike Trout. No, they did, no, they did. When
he first came out. I agreed, but I'm saying, Mike Trout,
ain't this.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
No, no, no, And then what happens. What I'm saying
is he's got a long way to go. We don't
know how long he's gonna breach this year. He batted
too eighty. He didn't even back three better two eighty.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You gotta say it like he bat at one eighty.
The stuff you're saying, you know, is like really good.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And here's the other thing too, I'm gonna say to you, Okay,
it wasn't the greatest performance I've ever seen in a
postseason game.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
And I'm not trying to be you are. How are
you done with this soliloquy?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
At not a single person in America byes except you,
rob the man.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Here's why.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Let me also tell you why it's remarkable to be
down in the dumpson in a slump is what makes
it incredible because you could continue down that just never
perform again. And it doesn't even need to. The teams
carry me, the starting pitchers carry me. I can just
ride this, coasting on into the to the postseason. No,
he had had enough. The man said the buck stops here.
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And what he did was say home run. Oh, let
me go put on my let me take this off
and go pitch real quick and strikeout ten and hit
another home run. And how you were talking about hockey
right now because we were talking about earlier the maple leafs.
The man hit a hat trick, you ball, he did
a turkey. And this is on top of again, this
is a seven hundred million dollar man. Most people don't
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live up to the hype of things like that. He
comes to this team, he lives up to it. Last
year he's incredible, a VPCS and that's what makes us remarkable.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
He put to it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And then you can sit up here and tell me, well,
the only person, only two people have done it, him
and Babe Ruth.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Well, then arguably the greatest player ever.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You're telling the only other person who does something was
the greatest player ever.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
No, but but he's but here isn't long enough for
you to consider him the greatest.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Player of all time, and that's what people were saying.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You are also the performance. Don't be a prisoner of
the moment. We've seen this before, No, we have not.
Johny Koynheiser, who is you're even your senior. No, it
was at that game with Reggie Jackson, he said, I
was at that game when he hit three home runs.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
And you know what, this was even better, he.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Said, because I could go to Reggie Jackson and say, Reggie,
you know what you didn't do and read He would say, pitch.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The most important thing in baseball's pitching. Then the man
went out there and did ten strike.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
He strike.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
That's what I'm trying to tell you is the Dodgers
won the World Series last year without show hal Tani.
He didn't pitch for them last year and he didn't
hit well. Would you agree with that they won us?
They won despite Yes. This year they were three and
zero against the Brewers and he was batting one fifty
in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
So again the.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Dodgers were rolling without sho heo Tani, and the pitchers
who pitched in games before he pitched actually pitched better
than him because blake'snew went eight innings against the hapless Brewers.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
No, no, no, no, no, no, hapless Brewers.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Now when they swept the Dodge in the regular best
record in the maze talking about now, I know what
I'm saying though, it's the reason why they're happless now
because they're going up against greats and starting pitching.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
And then we and then we saw Y'ama Mota pitched
a complete game, yes against Hey, how in the world
could he not do that against a team that obviously
went in the tank.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I'm not buying that. You not stop it. The Milwaukee
Brewers were the best team in baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I swept the Dodgers all through the We need the
pre and post game for two of them games.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
And you sit there and all of a sudden, they're
the Happers. Woe is us? We just barely made it here.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Stop it ain't nobody buying what you're selling right now
this week?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Then stop. They scored four runs if he beat them.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Guy himself, He literally beat them by himself.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Rob one man. We always say one man can't beat
the team.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, I don't know if you've been telling me that
my whole life, because you're wrong, Because show he just
beat the Brewers it's okay saying with me, No, that
was the best performance, arguably in any sport, not just baseball.
I don't know what's the football equivalent. Lamar Jackson throws
for three fifty runs for two fifty or Travis Hunter
catches three touchdowns and three interceptions bskey balls in a fifty,
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twenty thirty and ten block game, Like, what's the equivalent
in any sport?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Stop it, Rob, You ain't nobody buying it.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I'm trying to tell you that you gotta look at.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
This, a five thousand dollars jack in the ross. You
ain't buying it either.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Who he found, who he did the pitching against, which
is a dead Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Bruises showing you for a year. You ain't never stuttered
like this they're dead.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The Bruises were not dead, Rob, g you could have
pitched four complete inning Jo He couldn't because he's not
play style, he's not Yamamoto, and he's not a time
Immoto had to pitch nine scorps nine. You know Reggie
Jackson's weight in Reggie Jackson has he gave He gave
him problem.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
You know it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
But Reggie Jackson say Wow, double wow, and congratulations show
for an incredible performance All caps. That's major point. Tip
of the cap at a bow to you on your performance.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Time Reggie Jackson did was it wasn't the greatest, SOB no,
we have a that was okay, fighting for your life
there because Reggie turned in you what what what show?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He did?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Somebody can do what Reggie did.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Nobody absolutely nobody can do it did no.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Nobody else's pitching and hitting three home runs. You're gonna
have nobody, Yes, you want, You're gonna have more. A
kid do that three.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I got some stats for you, Rob, just to give
you an idea as to how common this was.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
That show.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You know how many times it's like forty times twelve
hitters have ever hit three homers in a postseason game.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Twelve and only twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Six pitchers that ever recorded ten plus strikeouts with two
or less hits and no runs.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
It's the start. Rob did both of those things in
one game. His keyk on that list. That's on the list.
Why do you keep bringing up three home runs is
if that was it?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Because that k a pitch. I want to know that
key k or Nanni is hit three home runs in
the playoff game.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yes he did. What does that?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He didn't, Rob, he didn't believe, but it tells you
that it's not a pen for a player like to
be on that nobody's listening to you.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
You don't believe it. This is what you were hearsting
the mirror at home.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Once it happened, after you wiped the throw up off
your face, you were like.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Kenny said, he's not the best.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
But twenty seventeen, k went your three times in a
row in the playoff game.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And you know who else did? Ten other people and
he had seven RBI's. Wow, ten other people have done that, Rob,
He just said, we ten other people have hit three
home runs three other nobody else has done what he did.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Brewn Brewers were dead.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Ruers were the best team in baseball. Stoppers were dead.
I say it with me. That was the best thing
I've ever seen. It's okay, Rob, It's okay. He's the
best player we've ever seen. And he's got another five
six years of greatness. Eight seven Who knows where we're
going next with this thing?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Are you a.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Prisoner of the moment, and you believe.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That was the greatest moment in the history of prison
and he's the greatest player whoever laced him up and
all that other stuff. Are you on that bandwagon or
you being responsible? See here in the bandwagon on right,
smart come on, and you believe that it was Seats
taking robson right here. It was a tremendous game by Otani,
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but it wasn't the greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
On five was the one I saw Reggie Jackson who
also said that was the greatest he ever seen.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
That's that's not what he said.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
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Speaker 6 (20:58):
Live right now by TJ.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Who's Masada a of course, former wide receiver and he
is also the co host of Up on Game on
Fox Sports Radio, former Pro Bowl wide receiver. Let me
put some respect on your name, who's and and Rob
asked this question earlier, TJ. The kids mess your name up, like,
how did when you were going up your people say
your last name when they first met.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
You who's oh he look, this was funny, right. The
kids they would just all call me TJ. But you
know how you had that substitute teacher. Oh yeah, and
they going, you know, they used to take role back
in the day, so you know, Davis. Uh. Then they
get to the h's and they'd be like, they'll say
hernandez and then and then and then it's a pause,
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and I'd be like, oh, that's me. I'm TJ. That's me.
They didn't even try. They ain't even try. No.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I told Rob they probably TJ. Houseman, Does they not? Damn?
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (21:55):
It used to be so many crazy things, but I've
been used to it my whole life. I'm like, I'm TJ.
Just call me TJ.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
There you go, right, It's so easy after that. TJ's easy,
all right. What isn't easy is the New York Football
Giants and Brian dave Ball.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
We've seen this.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I get it, the kicker missed whatever, but that is
an ultimate meltdown. And they mishandled that game against Dallas
as well. What did you make of that? Giving up
thirty three points in the prise quarter and losing that game?
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Brutal? Brutal? You you hate to lose a game like
that when you have a rookie quarterback and they go
down to score and take the lead, and going into
the season, defense wasn't just a strength, it was the
team and they can't hold that lead. But I don't
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want to point figures. Yeah, should the kicker have made it? Absolutely,
But if you go back to the first play with
bow knicks and I hate to do this, go watch
number twenty two. He's like, go watch his effort. He's
guarding the guy that caught the ball. He's literally jogging
like it's a preseason game. If he just keeps his
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eyes on the ball in the quarterback, he makes the play.
And so defensively, I believe Shane Bowen is their defensive coordinator.
If I'm a dable, I'm pissed. I'm pissed because we
weren't prepared for that situation.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Well that was what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I mean, yeah, you can be mad at him, but
this is a couple of games now where he's had
some blunders of the team just melted down. Is there
a point when they just say now we've had enough
or is he tied to Jackson Dart Now the.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Way Jackson Dart is playing. I'm not letting Daveo go.
I'm not he's playing too well. And see, this is
the thing about just football sports in general, especially sports
where you have coordinators, specifically football. He's letting his coaches coach.
You don't want to be mic quote managing everything that
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your coaches are doing because now they always gonna be
looking over their shoulders. So he's making their coach as coach.
But there's be coomans a point in time where you realize, like, oh,
I done hire the wrong coach. Now I got a
micro managers. My butty's gonna be on the line. So
I believe now he will micro manage and replace him
when this season is over.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
All right, I want to go here because I think
me and you went at it about Pete Carroll and
I said he was a poor chop away from not
being head coach.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
But I gotta say this, TJ.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's not just about Gino's pizza being bad and all
the interceptions.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
They don't do anything well.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
They don't run the football, they don't play defense, they
can't stop anybody, they don't pressure the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
They are bad. They are really, really bad.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
What do you make of what's going on with the Raiders,
because it's just I can't believe how bad they are.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Now.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
We didn't go at it about this because if you
said Pete was bad, I wouldn't disagree with you. But
he Curl's a good defensive coach. Offensively, the way that
he wants to play football, you can only play that
way unless your defense is dominating and you can play
out how I like to call it, two yards and
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a cloud of dust. You know tom Osbourne Nebraska in
the late nineties, you know, with Tommy Fraser like he
wants to play such a conservative brand of football. But
Gino was turning the ball over early. They weren't running
the ball effectively. If Max Crosby doesn't play, they get
no pressure on a quarterback. And so for me, was
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it a bad higher Yet, because you look at where
they were last year. They're much better last year than
they were, and they have.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
A better quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
It doesn't make sense that they're as bad as they
are considering where they were, and at some point go ahead.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
They thought they were getting the upgrade their work. Not
only are they worse on offense with a better quarterback
and better skilled players. They're worse on defense, a lot worse.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
DJ Whos was out of our guest right now. I
want to ask you, man, what do you make of
the charges right now? I think that's what you had
in the Super Bowl, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
And yeah, they it's a struggle. It's a struggle. But
I truly believe and offensive line when you lose those
big dudes up front. You know, Rashaan Slater was lost
early on, but Joe aut went down. I believe Joe
Aalt will be back. I believe they played Thursday. If
he comes back, they're gonna get back on track. Herbert
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has to cut down on the turnovers. He's playing good football.
A revelation in og Ronde Gaston Junior. If he can
give you anything close to what he gave you this
past Sunday. They have done had great tight ends and
he's a fifth round rookie and he done set the
record for most receiving yards ever by a tight end
and as a rookie. And so they're discovering some things.
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They just need to be able to protect him more.
Defense didn't play well this game. Defense had been very,
very good all season until yesterday and so I believe
they gonna get it together. I can't go against my
pick now. I just need Herbert to come to and
save me.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, good good luck. I was gonna say good luck. Yeah,
but they got some injuries and maybe there's still time.
Kelvin is high on the Colts. He thinks they can
get to the AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
I'm not there.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I just think I've seen a lot of Danny dimes
and I've seen teams got off get off the good starts.
They haven't beaten a lot of good teams. They winning
the teams that you supposed to be So I'm not
knocking them for that. Where are you on the Colts?
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Are they're AFC? Are they're in the AFC Championship Game?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
To you, you got to be a believer, Like, let's
be honest. Are they not a penalty away from being
undefeated on the field, like a senseless penalty, a penalty
that really you called that the loss? They are? Really
they should be an undefeated team, and so at some
point they need to be giving their credit and they're
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just due because nobody expected the Indianapolis coach and Daniel
Jones to do what they're doing. Daniel Jones is an
MVP candidate because the coach have a great record and
he's a catalyst today. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor is running a
ball like crazy. The offensive line is ridiculous, but he's
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making great bros. And I don't know if I would
say AFC Championship, but I am a believer in the
way the coach have played for sure.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, point differential points per game, rushing yards. I just
think it's.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Too early for me. And it was just like last
year with Sam Donald. You know what, I'll buy into
Daniel Jones When they're in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
That's when I'll buy it.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Hey, the Vikings, I guarantee the Vikings that they could
would take Sam Donald right now.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
No, they wouldn't because they weren't going to pay that
guy and TJ the two biggest games of the year,
he went the bed. I'm sorry until if he would
have played well in one of those two games, he
would have still been on that they would have signed him.
The two biggest games. He came up small, and I
think that's what scared him.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They missed him. They should have had him. I said
they should have kept him then, all right, TJ. Appreciate you, man,
Thank you, my man.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Man, y'all keep up the great work. My bad hour
ago full of head.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Hey, you ain't gonna bring it up, and so all
good
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Big Sunday, Big Weekend of sports. Oh yeah, and of
all the storylines that hit outside of wappen on Friday,
which we'll get to you later in the show, the
biggest one to come out of the weekend has to be,
without a doubt, that epic comeback in Denver, the Denver
Broncos come back to stun Jackson Dart and the New
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York Football Giants. They were trailing, then scored through the
first three quarters. Okay, they were up by eighteen points
with six minutes to play. Before yesterday five minutes, NFL
teams had lost one thousand, six hundred and two consecutive
games went trailing by that mount of points with that
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little amount of time, and yet bow Knicks did bow
Knicks things, accounting for four touchdowns thirty three points, in
the fourth quarter and the Denver Broncos prevail thirty three
thirty two over the He.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
Got this as usual, Rob g buried the lead.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
If you were if you were my reporter and you
turned into story about the Denver Broncos and not the
New York Football Giants, I would send that story back
because that story was not about the Denver Broncos at all,
zero zip, nada. It was about the New York freaking
(01:49):
Football Giants who choked down a colossal, colossal game eighteen
points with five minutes to go had never happened.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I'm gonna mirror this to one other situation. Are you ready.
Speaker 5 (02:04):
It's when the Knicks lost to the Pacers with two
forty three to go and they choked down that lead.
Guess what happened. It costs call me, mister Tipps.
Speaker 6 (02:17):
His job. Tom Thibodeau was fired after that.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
And I told you, if you can't get fired off
of that, you can never get fired.
Speaker 6 (02:25):
Brian Dabo, pack your bags.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Your life as head coach of the New York freaking
Football Giants is over.
Speaker 6 (02:34):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 5 (02:36):
This is not the first time this year he mishandled
the game against Dallas and it cost him a game.
That's two freaking games this year by him alone.
Speaker 6 (02:47):
Are you serious? Denver? My ass? I don't care what
bo Nicks did.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
I don't care because if the Giants did what they
were supposed to do, you rush three men and let
the quarterback have all day.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
Of course he do for touchdowns. There was no pressure.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
How do you turn a great quarterback into a mediocre
wad you apply to pressure? You're rushing three Come on, Calvin,
you know football. That's why the players walked off. You
neutralize them. Oh but there are eight guys out there
in the dB sor that.
Speaker 6 (03:27):
No, you know, nobody that much time. Thank you. I
don't care who you are. And guess what.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
People run themselves open. They know where they're going. It's
hard on the defense, you know why, because they don't
know where you're going.
Speaker 6 (03:39):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Brian Daveball pack your bags? Well, Brian Dabad definitely is texting,
and you know my theory. He is at home right now,
updating the LinkedIn page. He is up now talking to
his agent like, yeah, what you think anything else out there?
Because this is an epic collapse. We know that, ROBJ.
You just mentioned sixteen hundred times.
Speaker 6 (04:00):
You can't be the.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
First of something that happened sixteen hundred times. Now we
know the first is going to happen in anything in life.
That's why it's the first. However, you don't want to
be the first that had happened to And this is
the other thing too. This is the second or third
time that we seen Brian dave Ball have meltdowns on
the field, remember the whole blue tent issue and yelling
at a health persons like man doctor, yelling at a
doctor who's just trying to check up on your you know,
(04:23):
could be a star quarterback and he's doing his job.
And so you can feel the pressure on day Ball.
You can see the pressure mounting on him. He's overthinking,
he's over correcting, and he's not inspiring his team in
the sense that there's no way you're supposed to lose
this game where you allow them if they score twenty.
I get it that happens people score have a hot
fourth quarter. Thirty three points can't happen in the fourth quarter,
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And especially when somebody on this show said the Giants
are the best defense and they're going to be the
best team in the NFC East.
Speaker 6 (04:49):
His name is Rob G.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Talked about their defense. Well that's why Rob G wants
to talk about Denver.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
No I do.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I am gonna get to Denver on the other side
of this, But that's just all. That's a horrible loss
for a team that had a chance to be building
on something right.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
They had some chance a huge win.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Nobody has expectations, exceprog that they're gonna be anything. But
you'll get a big win like that against the team
people have, you know, Hughes playoff aspiration for you. Feel good,
your young quarterback, your young running back doing some things.
You got some mojo going out there. So that's a
big letdown from your coach. It's a big letdown for
the team. And he's been having these meltdowns the last
two or three weeks. That is starting to make I'm
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imagining folks in New York looking at him and question
him as a head coach. The only other thing I
will say, what the heck is up with the Broncos
where they're supposed to be. Sean Payton, the Hall of
Fame coach. Sean Payton is offensive guru and they can't
freaking score If you take that fourth quarter away in
the fourth quarter against the Eagles three two, now three
(05:50):
weeks ago, but two weeks prior to that, they have
sixteen points in three games. So I am concerned what
the heck is going on with the Broncos that they're
supposed to be again offs are jugging out with with
Sean Payton, and prior to third to the fourth quarter
they had sixteen points if you take away that fourth
quarter to fourth quarter of the Eagles. So something's up
with the Broncos. But they they found their swag and
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it reminded me of an even greater version of JJ McCarthy.
Remember that JJ McCarthy was trash the first three quarters
and they went crazy in the fourth quarter earlier in
the season Week one, I believe it was. That's what
it looked like. But you can't lose. There's no way
you can lose that game. And there's no way I
want to lose the momentum that I'm building with this
young core of mine.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
If I'm if I'm dayballing the Giants, no doubt. I mean,
what a bad, bad, bad day for the New York
Football Giants. Just just another disaster. And I'm saying I'm
telling you it's like that Knicks game. Like after that they.
Speaker 6 (06:47):
Yeah, I mean this is it really.
Speaker 5 (06:49):
Like it's it's it's it's equivalent because both of those
are historic collapses. Like in that Knicks game, they're up
one nothing against Indiana, do you know what I mean?
Like that changes everything? And now did they lose that game?
They came back and followed that up. And here's the
other thing. If your ownership or whatever, dude, didn't we
just see this with the Cowboys when they allowed the
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Cowboys to tie it and beat them in overtime. This
is not the first time. Anybody who watches the New
York Football Giants closely, there's no way you look at
that and go it's a one off. It's not a
one off enough already, Brian day Ball, look at his
as last three years whatever they want, eleven games or
something like.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Seriously, it's all in the last point for me to
day Ball. Part of being a head coach is controlling
both sides of the ball. And you mentioned it. You
give it up point. They're supposed to be good defensively,
and you give up a bunch of points in Dallas.
Let him come back. You give up all these points
in the fourth quarter. So it can't just be like, oh,
well he's offensive grou look what he's gonna do with
Jackson Dart. It's like, no, you're a you're a head
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coach of the entirety of the team, special teams, defense,
offense as well. So that that's a that's a that's
a game you need to win to beat a good team.
And the Broncos, who have been struggling offensively last three weeks, again,
they've been disappointing as well.
Speaker 6 (08:03):
I'm not I'm not the Broncos. I'm not high on
the back. Everybody else is.
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Parker on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast,
and we are going to talk about show Hail Tani
and what transpired on Friday night, and it's it's a combination.
I mean, obviously he had a tremendous game.
Speaker 6 (09:03):
Are we underselling this? Okay?
Speaker 4 (09:06):
No one's taken tremendous game.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
No.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
No, it's a tremendous game. But no one's uh taking
that away from him. But let me, let me, let
me sit down and let me explain to you.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Okay, you got so much plaining, not explaining, You got
so much plaining to do.
Speaker 6 (09:23):
This is why.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
People get caught up on this whole idea of prisoner
of the moment, because the prisoner of the moment made
it like shohey had done something that nobody had ever done.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
Okay, okay, and it's not true. Okay.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
First of all, people have hit three home runs in
a game. Reggie Jackson hit three home runs on three
pitches consecutive pitch by three different pictures in a World
Series game.
Speaker 6 (10:01):
An incredible feat That's how I feel.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
Here's the other part, So people, I get it, he's
a unicorn. They're making it like well nobody. Well, yeah,
we know, because only him and Babe Ruth have been
the only guys who are pitched right and hit home
runs at this kind of clip. There's only been two
guys since the twenties. But people keep going.
Speaker 6 (10:24):
He's the first guy, says, of.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
Course he is, because nobody else has ever done it.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
That's exactly what nobody else has done it. Hit me out.
You know, nobody else has ever done it. It ain't impressive.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Babe Ruth was the last gual had the opportunity, so
one hundred years ago.
Speaker 6 (10:43):
Okay.
Speaker 5 (10:43):
But here's the part where they go, they say, the
three home runs. Okay, even though Key k Hernandez had
three home runs in the game playoff game, that didn't happen.
Speaker 6 (10:53):
It's not like that never happened. But then the.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Whole thing is about, oh and he struck out ten,
suck out ten batters. He struck out ten. I'm like, okay,
that's good. But it wasn't like he had shut down
the mighty Milwaukee Brewers.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
And here's my issue.
Speaker 5 (11:17):
Blake Snell pitched eight innings of unbelievable ball against the
Milwaukee Brewers. Yamamodo pisched a complete game against the Milwaukee Brewers.
They were dead on arrival. Shoe Hayed didn't do anything special.
Everybody in their uncle I could have pitched four scoreless
(11:40):
innings against that team.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
They couldn't hit, they couldn't score any runs.
Speaker 5 (11:46):
So people are making it like he pitched a no
hitter and hit four home runs and on every yet bad.
Speaker 6 (11:51):
That's not what happened. That's not what happened.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
What he did pitching wise was not that impressive against
this Milwaukee Brewers team.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
You're screaming in the room by yourself. Nobody else is
you are like in it insane or something.
Speaker 6 (12:04):
No, I'm been a.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Straight tag, no I swear. Listen to your no hold on, Alex,
I'm not the camera on me. Put the camera on.
Speaker 6 (12:12):
It ain't the greatest look at the gold posts. It
ain't like he hit four home runs.
Speaker 1 (12:17):
He it ain't like he pitched his shut out a
complete game.
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Look how far are you he has to go for you?
Speaker 1 (12:22):
To you now? He had to have four home runs
and pitch all nine innings fourteen ks.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Hey, he's not the greatest player I ever played. It's
so premature, it really is. If you so, I would
be like Okay, I can disagree, but I can understand.
Speaker 5 (12:36):
We'll give you another example, because that's what they tried
to do with Mike Trout with the Angels, that he.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Would Mike Trout. No, they did, no, they did. When
he first came out. I agreed, but I'm saying, Mike Trout,
ain't this.
Speaker 5 (12:49):
No, no, no, And then what happens. What I'm saying
is he's got a long way to go. We don't
know how long he's gonna breach this year. He batted
too eighty. He didn't even back three better two eighty.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
You gotta say it like he bat at one eighty.
The stuff you're saying, you know, is like really good.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
And here's the other thing too, I'm gonna say to you, Okay,
it wasn't the greatest performance I've ever seen in a
postseason game.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
And I'm not trying to be you are. How are
you done with this soliloquy?
Speaker 1 (13:19):
At not a single person in America byes except you,
rob the man.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
Here's why.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Let me also tell you why it's remarkable to be
down in the dumpson in a slump is what makes
it incredible because you could continue down that just never
perform again. And it doesn't even need to. The teams
carry me, the starting pitchers carry me. I can just
ride this, coasting on into the to the postseason. No,
he had had enough. The man said the buck stops here.
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And what he did was say home run. Oh, let
me go put on my let me take this off
and go pitch real quick and strikeout ten and hit
another home run. And how you were talking about hockey
right now because we were talking about earlier the maple leafs.
The man hit a hat trick, you ball, he did
a turkey. And this is on top of again, this
is a seven hundred million dollar man. Most people don't
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live up to the hype of things like that. He
comes to this team, he lives up to it. Last
year he's incredible, a VPCS and that's what makes us remarkable.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
He put to it.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
And then you can sit up here and tell me, well,
the only person, only two people have done it, him
and Babe Ruth.
Speaker 6 (14:25):
Well, then arguably the greatest player ever.
Speaker 1 (14:27):
You're telling the only other person who does something was
the greatest player ever.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
No, but but he's but here isn't long enough for
you to consider him the greatest.
Speaker 4 (14:35):
Player of all time, and that's what people were saying.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
You are also the performance. Don't be a prisoner of
the moment. We've seen this before, No, we have not.
Johny Koynheiser, who is you're even your senior. No, it
was at that game with Reggie Jackson, he said, I
was at that game when he hit three home runs.
Speaker 6 (14:53):
And you know what, this was even better, he.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
Said, because I could go to Reggie Jackson and say, Reggie,
you know what you didn't do and read He would say, pitch.
Speaker 6 (15:02):
You can't.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
The most important thing in baseball's pitching. Then the man
went out there and did ten strike.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
He strike.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
That's what I'm trying to tell you is the Dodgers
won the World Series last year without show hal Tani.
He didn't pitch for them last year and he didn't
hit well. Would you agree with that they won us?
They won despite Yes. This year they were three and
zero against the Brewers and he was batting one fifty
in the postseason.
Speaker 6 (15:28):
So again the.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
Dodgers were rolling without sho heo Tani, and the pitchers
who pitched in games before he pitched actually pitched better
than him because blake'snew went eight innings against the hapless Brewers.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
No, no, no, no, no, no, hapless Brewers.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Now when they swept the Dodge in the regular best
record in the maze talking about now, I know what
I'm saying though, it's the reason why they're happless now
because they're going up against greats and starting pitching.
Speaker 5 (15:56):
And then we and then we saw Y'ama Mota pitched
a complete game, yes against Hey, how in the world
could he not do that against a team that obviously
went in the tank.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
I'm not buying that. You not stop it. The Milwaukee
Brewers were the best team in baseball.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
I swept the Dodgers all through the We need the
pre and post game for two of them games.
Speaker 6 (16:18):
And you sit there and all of a sudden, they're
the Happers. Woe is us? We just barely made it here.
Speaker 1 (16:22):
Stop it ain't nobody buying what you're selling right now
this week?
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Then stop. They scored four runs if he beat them.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Guy himself, He literally beat them by himself.
Speaker 6 (16:33):
Rob one man. We always say one man can't beat
the team.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Well, I don't know if you've been telling me that
my whole life, because you're wrong, Because show he just
beat the Brewers it's okay saying with me, No, that
was the best performance, arguably in any sport, not just baseball.
I don't know what's the football equivalent. Lamar Jackson throws
for three fifty runs for two fifty or Travis Hunter
catches three touchdowns and three interceptions bskey balls in a fifty,
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twenty thirty and ten block game, Like, what's the equivalent
in any sport?
Speaker 6 (17:06):
Stop it, Rob, You ain't nobody buying it.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I'm trying to tell you that you gotta look at.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
This, a five thousand dollars jack in the ross. You
ain't buying it either.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Who he found, who he did the pitching against, which
is a dead Milwaukee.
Speaker 6 (17:19):
Bruises showing you for a year. You ain't never stuttered
like this they're dead.
Speaker 1 (17:23):
The Bruises were not dead, Rob, g you could have
pitched four complete inning Jo He couldn't because he's not
play style, he's not Yamamoto, and he's not a time
Immoto had to pitch nine scorps nine. You know Reggie
Jackson's weight in Reggie Jackson has he gave He gave
him problem.
Speaker 6 (17:41):
You know it wasn't a big deal.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
But Reggie Jackson say Wow, double wow, and congratulations show
for an incredible performance All caps. That's major point. Tip
of the cap at a bow to you on your performance.
Speaker 7 (17:54):
Time Reggie Jackson did was it wasn't the greatest, SOB no,
we have a that was okay, fighting for your life
there because Reggie turned in you what what what show?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
He did?
Speaker 6 (18:07):
Somebody can do what Reggie did.
Speaker 1 (18:10):
Nobody absolutely nobody can do it did no.
Speaker 6 (18:14):
Nobody else's pitching and hitting three home runs. You're gonna
have nobody, Yes, you want, You're gonna have more. A
kid do that three.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I got some stats for you, Rob, just to give
you an idea as to how common this was.
Speaker 6 (18:29):
That show.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
You know how many times it's like forty times twelve
hitters have ever hit three homers in a postseason game.
Speaker 6 (18:37):
Twelve and only twenty.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
Six pitchers that ever recorded ten plus strikeouts with two
or less hits and no runs.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
It's the start. Rob did both of those things in
one game. His keyk on that list. That's on the list.
Why do you keep bringing up three home runs is
if that was it?
Speaker 5 (18:57):
Because that k a pitch. I want to know that
key k or Nanni is hit three home runs in
the playoff game.
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Yes he did. What does that?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
He didn't, Rob, he didn't believe, but it tells you
that it's not a pen for a player like to
be on that nobody's listening to you.
Speaker 6 (19:13):
You don't believe it. This is what you were hearsting
the mirror at home.
Speaker 1 (19:18):
Once it happened, after you wiped the throw up off
your face, you were like.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Kenny said, he's not the best.
Speaker 5 (19:25):
But twenty seventeen, k went your three times in a
row in the playoff game.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
And you know who else did? Ten other people and
he had seven RBI's. Wow, ten other people have done that, Rob,
He just said, we ten other people have hit three
home runs three other nobody else has done what he did.
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Brewn Brewers were dead.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Ruers were the best team in baseball. Stoppers were dead.
I say it with me. That was the best thing
I've ever seen. It's okay, Rob, It's okay. He's the
best player we've ever seen. And he's got another five
six years of greatness. Eight seven Who knows where we're
going next with this thing?
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Are you a.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Prisoner of the moment, and you believe.
Speaker 5 (20:16):
That was the greatest moment in the history of prison
and he's the greatest player whoever laced him up and
all that other stuff. Are you on that bandwagon or
you being responsible? See here in the bandwagon on right,
smart come on, and you believe that it was Seats
taking robson right here. It was a tremendous game by Otani,
(20:37):
but it wasn't the greatest of all time.
Speaker 6 (20:39):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine.
Speaker 1 (20:41):
On five was the one I saw Reggie Jackson who
also said that was the greatest he ever seen.
Speaker 6 (20:45):
That's that's not what he said.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
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Speaker 6 (20:58):
Live right now by TJ.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
Who's Masada a of course, former wide receiver and he
is also the co host of Up on Game on
Fox Sports Radio, former Pro Bowl wide receiver. Let me
put some respect on your name, who's and and Rob
asked this question earlier, TJ. The kids mess your name up, like,
how did when you were going up your people say
your last name when they first met.
Speaker 8 (21:22):
You who's oh he look, this was funny, right. The
kids they would just all call me TJ. But you
know how you had that substitute teacher. Oh yeah, and
they going, you know, they used to take role back
in the day, so you know, Davis. Uh. Then they
get to the h's and they'd be like, they'll say
hernandez and then and then and then it's a pause,
(21:45):
and I'd be like, oh, that's me. I'm TJ. That's me.
They didn't even try. They ain't even try. No.
Speaker 6 (21:50):
I told Rob they probably TJ. Houseman, Does they not? Damn?
Oh man?
Speaker 8 (21:55):
It used to be so many crazy things, but I've
been used to it my whole life. I'm like, I'm TJ.
Just call me TJ.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
There you go, right, It's so easy after that. TJ's easy,
all right. What isn't easy is the New York Football
Giants and Brian dave Ball.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
We've seen this.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
I get it, the kicker missed whatever, but that is
an ultimate meltdown. And they mishandled that game against Dallas
as well. What did you make of that? Giving up
thirty three points in the prise quarter and losing that game?
Speaker 8 (22:25):
Brutal? Brutal? You you hate to lose a game like
that when you have a rookie quarterback and they go
down to score and take the lead, and going into
the season, defense wasn't just a strength, it was the
team and they can't hold that lead. But I don't
(22:46):
want to point figures. Yeah, should the kicker have made it? Absolutely,
But if you go back to the first play with
bow knicks and I hate to do this, go watch
number twenty two. He's like, go watch his effort. He's
guarding the guy that caught the ball. He's literally jogging
like it's a preseason game. If he just keeps his
(23:08):
eyes on the ball in the quarterback, he makes the play.
And so defensively, I believe Shane Bowen is their defensive coordinator.
If I'm a dable, I'm pissed. I'm pissed because we
weren't prepared for that situation.
Speaker 6 (23:22):
Well that was what I was gonna ask.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I mean, yeah, you can be mad at him, but
this is a couple of games now where he's had
some blunders of the team just melted down. Is there
a point when they just say now we've had enough
or is he tied to Jackson Dart Now the.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
Way Jackson Dart is playing. I'm not letting Daveo go.
I'm not he's playing too well. And see, this is
the thing about just football sports in general, especially sports
where you have coordinators, specifically football. He's letting his coaches coach.
You don't want to be mic quote managing everything that
(23:58):
your coaches are doing because now they always gonna be
looking over their shoulders. So he's making their coach as coach.
But there's be coomans a point in time where you realize, like, oh,
I done hire the wrong coach. Now I got a
micro managers. My butty's gonna be on the line. So
I believe now he will micro manage and replace him
when this season is over.
Speaker 5 (24:17):
All right, I want to go here because I think
me and you went at it about Pete Carroll and
I said he was a poor chop away from not
being head coach.
Speaker 6 (24:26):
But I gotta say this, TJ.
Speaker 5 (24:28):
It's not just about Gino's pizza being bad and all
the interceptions.
Speaker 6 (24:33):
They don't do anything well.
Speaker 5 (24:34):
They don't run the football, they don't play defense, they
can't stop anybody, they don't pressure the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
They are bad. They are really, really bad.
Speaker 5 (24:43):
What do you make of what's going on with the Raiders,
because it's just I can't believe how bad they are.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
Now.
Speaker 8 (24:50):
We didn't go at it about this because if you
said Pete was bad, I wouldn't disagree with you. But
he Curl's a good defensive coach. Offensively, the way that
he wants to play football, you can only play that
way unless your defense is dominating and you can play
out how I like to call it, two yards and
(25:10):
a cloud of dust. You know tom Osbourne Nebraska in
the late nineties, you know, with Tommy Fraser like he
wants to play such a conservative brand of football. But
Gino was turning the ball over early. They weren't running
the ball effectively. If Max Crosby doesn't play, they get
no pressure on a quarterback. And so for me, was
(25:31):
it a bad higher Yet, because you look at where
they were last year. They're much better last year than
they were, and they have.
Speaker 6 (25:39):
A better quarterback.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
It doesn't make sense that they're as bad as they
are considering where they were, and at some point go ahead.
Speaker 8 (25:49):
They thought they were getting the upgrade their work. Not
only are they worse on offense with a better quarterback
and better skilled players. They're worse on defense, a lot worse.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
DJ Whos was out of our guest right now. I
want to ask you, man, what do you make of
the charges right now? I think that's what you had
in the Super Bowl, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 8 (26:09):
And yeah, they it's a struggle. It's a struggle. But
I truly believe and offensive line when you lose those
big dudes up front. You know, Rashaan Slater was lost
early on, but Joe aut went down. I believe Joe
Aalt will be back. I believe they played Thursday. If
he comes back, they're gonna get back on track. Herbert
(26:31):
has to cut down on the turnovers. He's playing good football.
A revelation in og Ronde Gaston Junior. If he can
give you anything close to what he gave you this
past Sunday. They have done had great tight ends and
he's a fifth round rookie and he done set the
record for most receiving yards ever by a tight end
and as a rookie. And so they're discovering some things.
(26:55):
They just need to be able to protect him more.
Defense didn't play well this game. Defense had been very,
very good all season until yesterday and so I believe
they gonna get it together. I can't go against my
pick now. I just need Herbert to come to and
save me.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, good good luck. I was gonna say good luck. Yeah,
but they got some injuries and maybe there's still time.
Kelvin is high on the Colts. He thinks they can
get to the AFC Championship Game.
Speaker 6 (27:23):
I'm not there.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
I just think I've seen a lot of Danny dimes
and I've seen teams got off get off the good starts.
They haven't beaten a lot of good teams. They winning
the teams that you supposed to be So I'm not
knocking them for that. Where are you on the Colts?
Speaker 6 (27:36):
Are they're AFC? Are they're in the AFC Championship Game?
Speaker 8 (27:39):
To you, you got to be a believer, Like, let's
be honest. Are they not a penalty away from being
undefeated on the field, like a senseless penalty, a penalty
that really you called that the loss? They are? Really
they should be an undefeated team, and so at some
point they need to be giving their credit and they're
(28:01):
just due because nobody expected the Indianapolis coach and Daniel
Jones to do what they're doing. Daniel Jones is an
MVP candidate because the coach have a great record and
he's a catalyst today. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor is running a
ball like crazy. The offensive line is ridiculous, but he's
(28:22):
making great bros. And I don't know if I would
say AFC Championship, but I am a believer in the
way the coach have played for sure.
Speaker 6 (28:30):
Yeah, point differential points per game, rushing yards. I just
think it's.
Speaker 5 (28:34):
Too early for me. And it was just like last
year with Sam Donald. You know what, I'll buy into
Daniel Jones When they're in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 6 (28:43):
That's when I'll buy it.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
Hey, the Vikings, I guarantee the Vikings that they could
would take Sam Donald right now.
Speaker 5 (28:48):
No, they wouldn't because they weren't going to pay that
guy and TJ the two biggest games of the year,
he went the bed. I'm sorry until if he would
have played well in one of those two games, he
would have still been on that they would have signed him.
The two biggest games. He came up small, and I
think that's what scared him.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
They missed him. They should have had him. I said
they should have kept him then, all right, TJ. Appreciate you, man,
Thank you, my man.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Man, y'all keep up the great work. My bad hour
ago full of head.
Speaker 6 (29:14):
Hey, you ain't gonna bring it up, and so all
good
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