October 27, 2025 • 33 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain why it’s so soft of the Toronto Blue Jays to suggest that George Springer has been booed enough for his role in the 2017 Houston Astros cheating scandal, debate whether Indianapolis Colts running back Jonathan Taylor has any real shot at winning the NFL MVP award, and explain why they had a problem with Justin Fields’ postgame comments yesterday (for different reasons).
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
They're saying, the season that this young man is putting
together makes Sa Kwan's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Season look like junior varsity.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Jonathan Taylor in Indianapolis Colts. I know Danny Downs is
all the headlines, but is having a phenomenal first half
of this.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You just said the only thing that mattered what you
just said told you all. You know what, Let me
finish the setup.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You get to your point, just Jonathan Taylor, you couldn't
even help it. Ran for another one hundred and fifty
three yards on Sunday. They had another three touchdowns in
their blowout wind over the time Titans entering Monday night.
Jonathan Taylor currently leads the NFL in rushing yards, rushing touchdowns,
scrimmage yards, scrimmage touchdowns, rush yards over ten yards, rushes
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over twenty yards, fourth quarter rushing yards, rush yards after contact,
and misstackles forced, which is a long way of saying
that he is getting a ton of MVP love, both
inside the coach's locker room and outside amongst NFL fans.
And something tells me, Rob that you think that this
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whole thing is a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I got news for everybody listening, is this on Voting
for Jonathan Taylor for MVP is like back in the
day voting for Ross Parole. Don't waste your votes. You
know what, You might as well go up to the
top of the Pinopscot building in Detroit and throw it off. Thing.
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And Rob g just he couldn't even help it because
he had to give you the news and tell it
to you the right way. What he say, guess who's
getting all aheadline. It's all about Danny Dimes in the year,
Oh my god, because it's always about the quarterback it is.
That's where we are. If Saquon Barkley couldn't get a
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sniff last year, good luck Jonathan Taylor, because it ain't
gonna Saquon almost broke the record, right, didn't play the
last game, had a chance, and he's still despite how
well he played, there was no rally cry for him.
The last time of running back you know won an MVP,
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Moby Dick was a guppy. It's been forever, right, a
long time. That ship has sailed. Maybe they need to
just change the name of the award and make it
for the best quarterback on the best team or whatever
you want to call it, because it is not going
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to go. The quarterback position is so important to the
to the a football team that without a quarterback you
have no I don't care what your running back is doing.
Without a quarterback, guess what you're going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The only thing I push back on that is I
do think some of the quarterbacks are having success throughout
history because of the running back. So you you look at,
you know, some of the guys, you would say, well,
this person had a really good year. Well Danny Danny Dimes.
Is he Danny Dimes? If Jonathan Taylor isn't the threat
that he is, give me the running back that the
Packers had. When Aaron Rodgers won four, Aaron Rodgers heard
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I'm just I'm not knocking it like I'm just name
the top of the top of the guys. I'm talking
about middling guys who want to be meeting Danny Dimes was.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
To win this year. Oh he ain't winning, But you know,
like that you had running backs.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Kurt Warner was insane, but he also had Marshall Fulk,
which is why Marshall Falk won one and he won one.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
But Kurtkurt, Kurt is great.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What I'm saying, the ability you came into that game
is a defense, like, shoot, I don't Marshall Fulk, do
we stop Kurt? It was like what the heck do
I do? And having an Edrian James helps the Peyton manning.
So I'm just saying the idea that just having the
quarterback as if Jonathan Taylor is if alt.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But my point is if you're a team and you
don't have a quarterback, guess what you're not doing, Like seriously,
you could have a great running back. I know what
you're saying, like them playing off the quarterback the running
back because you have to be worried about him, so
that opens it up. That's what happened to Danny Dimes
in New York right with the Giants and sakuon that
There's no doubt about it. I'm just saying, but he
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didn't want an MVP either. I'm just saying, if you
don't have a quarterback in this league, you're going nowhere, home, dinner,
maybe a show.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Here's the way, Jonathan, here's the old Matt to him
winning it one. We got into a huge debate me
and you last year, and I still stand by it.
I totally get your thought process. I just would have
gone for Itaquon Barkley. I want to have the rushing
title because I said, why can't he have They want
a championship? Why can't I have that rushing title? And
my and my super Bowl? He would have had both.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, But but here was the issue. It ain't just
about him playing. In order for Saquon to play, all
your linemen and everybody else, let's go okay, let's make
some magical Okay you say that now, Dickerson sitting at home, like,
but if somebody broke a leg or got injured on
that on your for your offensive line, that was the
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best in the league. What I tell you about I
want people breaking legs. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm sad Scatterboo running around here right now. Thank you.
That was horrible to watch that that was gruesome, But
I would have won it both in the NFL, though
people get hurt, and I would have wanted the title
rushing title, and because I think that's the only way
the MVP happened. For running has to be something exceptional.
You can't get what they wanted. They won a Super
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Bowl and I would have had two things.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's just me. Would have one how about they would
have the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Howabouts now, like I was saying, the only way this
happens is he has to do something breaking the record.
It's kind of like what you talked about how you
failed the big dumper cal right, Like he had to.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Break judges record for the most and then there's no offense.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That to me is how the the that's the road
map for a running back to win. If Jonathan Taylor
rob Gen correct me, if I'm right, he's thirty one
with LT right, the leading touchdowns in the season with ltimembery,
he was going crazy with the little little tea cup thing.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
He would do uh in the end zone. If Jonathan
Taylor breaks that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And by the way, he has an extra game that
LT didn't have LT at sixteen he has seventeen, So
if he would have breaked that, then I think now
we get a chance. Would am I actually strongly looking
a running back? And the only other thing I think
that might walk work in his favor is people saying
what you're saying, and what other people I've said that
you said it?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Were they here?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's only a quarterbacks and mine as well, not even
voted where people like to be contralled. All right, Well,
you know what, maybe Jonathan Taylor has been this exception.
This year he broke LC's record. He's at thirty two.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
The last year was the example that they could have
done that and broke the moment.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Let's say, let's say vocal like I want to win it.
The Eagles were like, no, it matters to us, and
they go and win it. Do you think he would
have gotten it had he won it like they say
they went for the record. He breaks the record by
twenty eight yards. Now he's the greatest rusher of all time.
Do you think they give him the MVP? I think
he would add a way better shot at and that's
what I mean. But I'm saying, but I but I
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don't believe.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I just don't. I just think that if he couldn't
get even without the record, he's still the yard he
put up. The impact he had with the Eagles, like
old that was his first year, they were like, seemed unbeatable.
The whole game plans for the Super Bowl was what
stop Sakwan. It was always about him. So my point is,
even with that and Rob g I don't remember what
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the vote total was, but it wasn't close. Here's the right,
it wasn't close. While you're looking that up, Roger.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The other good thing in Johnson Taylor's favor, Lamar Jackson's
not playing because Lamar Jackson does things and you and
I sit here, we can argue about this, but we
both agree he's insane and he does stuff at numbers
that are so ridiculous that it looks normal.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And Lamar Jackson will be like, all right, at the
end of the season, forty two touchdowns, seven interceptions, he
rushed for another, you know, five touchdowns he had blah
blah blah, and you'll look at it and just like,
all right, that's your MVP. Josh Allen looks good. He
doesn't look crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's also in Jonathan Taylor's favor because nobody's looking Josh
Allen and Lamar Jackson looked ridiculous last year. They were
doing things you've never seen before. There's nobody jumping off
aside for him, right. Baker's kind of going down a
little bit. Matthew Stafford's there, but she's like maybe a
Jared Goff, but we know he never puts up the
gaudy number enough. Patrick Mahomes is right there, but you
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wonder has he done it? You know, is are people like, oh,
he's had enough? So Jonathan Taylor's favorite. There's no Lamar
Jackson type craziness going on. So that's the one thing
I will say. But can he be the first non
quarterback since twenty twelve with Adrian Peterson? I think he's
got a shot. If he gets to thirty touchdowns or more,
I think that'll be the key because that's gonna be
the number if he if he either breaks the rush.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
The city does he playing Indianapolis. So the problem is
some votes are gonna go to Caitlyn Clark, so he
won't have enough votes. They that's all they think about it,
all they care about all. Can you give it? Vote?
Reggie Miler? What would have voting?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Last year they did the tier system?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
He vote for five guys, right, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson
the only ones who got first place votes.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Think about that. He didn't get crazy, not even in
Philadelphia where they want, like the writer like like seriously,
that's kind of crazy, not even one first place.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And just to give you some context, the gap between
Lamar who was second and sa Quan who was third,
was more than double the gap between sa Quan who
was third and Baker Mayfield who was tenth. They were
so one did only voting for those two guys and
everybody else, and that's what he wasn't even close?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Am I wrong either of you? That there's no that
this year? There's no Lamar and Josh. Those are from
Jump Boom. Those dudes were insane, crazy what they were
were all like witnessing it, you know, defining the moment
we had been waiting for. Josh, Allen, Lamar are doing
even better than he did of the year he wanted.
So I think there's no that this year.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Now, he had his best year ever. That's what I'm saying.
There's none of that.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Nobody has those types of numbers, and I think that's
boding well for him.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I think the only guy who well, I think a
quarterback is gonna win it either way. But the best
combination of the Josh Allen Lamar Jackson thing is the
guy we're gonna see it in about five minutes, pas
Patrick Mahomes, now that he has his guys back, the
last month or so has been on that trajectory where
he's putting up the MVP numbers.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Who told you that was about to happen? Who told
you that Kelvin was right?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
H too early? Are you block that number? Block that number? H?
Are you? Elijah? I need the video? You also told
you that just too long? I got too much. Well,
here's the question, is not time, but here's the question.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, if it goes the way this season is going,
and Jonathan Taylor finishes with about twenty one hundred total
yards and twenty eight touchdowns, Right, but Daniel Jones stays
at the pace he's on and he throws for thirty
five touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
No, Daniel Jones is not going to win them. No,
I'm saying yes. Is that going to work again?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Because there'll be a split vote. And that's what happened sometimes.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And even though we all agree that Jonathan Taylor is
the engine that makes them go.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I think you're gonna say, we saw that in New
York with Saquon and Daniel Jones. Right, his best year
was when Saquan was running.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Only thing I'll say, Rob g and I mentioned it
earlier where it could go in his favor is we
do have precedence Marshall Fart winning in two thousand. Kurt
Warners put on stupid numbers two, but Marshall Fart was
just that, just going crazy with the receiving and the running.
So if Jonathan Taylor can have that kind of a
year because Daniel Jones ain't Kurt, maybe that'll help him,
(12:29):
is that the presidents are like now, he's just been
too outstanding that it has to be him.
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Speaker 4 (13:14):
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Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, rob's the breaking news about George Springer and the
the the ask that the Dodger fans will do.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
What.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, the reputation that Canada has for being soft, it's
not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Well, they do wear comfortable shoes up just saying that's
the that's the great part about Canadians. There's they were
very comfortable. They're just sorry smoke, No, really sorry. We're
telling you every time I've been up there. And I
used to go to Montreal in the in the heyday
when I was in my twenties, and the club, oh boy,
remember the name Shaye Perry. Shaye Perry was just a
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fine establishment in Montreal. So you got a warm welcome
there in Toronto and the what you're saying absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, you know he's not gonna get a warm welcome
here tonight and game George Springer, and I think we
all know why because he was one of the ringleaders,
one of the foremost members of that cheating twenty seventeen
Astros trash can scandal.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Well that's the one that cost the Dodgers of the
world absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Ahead of tonight's Game three, Blue Jays manager John Schneider
was asked about what kind of reception he's expecting at
Chavez Ravine and whether or not we can expect that
George Springer is gonna get bootmercifully as he has every
time he's coming back here to La and Schneider said, quote,
you know, it's just I wish the baseball world would
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just stop that whole thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's unfortunate, but you know he's ready for it. Man.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
If you don't get out of here with that sob story,
he and you know what George Springer gets to do,
and he dead and he wants walk around with a
World Series ring on. So the least he can do
is get some of these cries in jeers from Dodger
fans or whoever else wants to do it. Look, that's
a part of it, man. There's a consequence for actions,
and that's what they they are. A lot of the Astros.
I don't know if he was you know, he looked
like he was part of it, the trash ros with
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a lot of people call him this is just part.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Of the course. And didn't they get a break? If
I remember, they remember they they did have fans. Remember
the next year wasn't wasn't it was mixed up?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It was two years later because I was eighteen, Yeah right,
I remember, Like they didn't get the like the harshness
of what they should have received, like the crowd.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
And they also didn't get punished. They didn't get punished
as the main let's start there. They didn't get punished,
and they could have done something. They weren't going to
take the trophy away. I knew that. I just knew
that that wouldn't be it. But there should have been
some other punishment. There was punishment for people because other
people wind up losing jobs. Aj Hinch the general manager.
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Remember Carlos Beltraan had had the Mets job. They took
that away from him. Like there was some damage, but
not as much as elective damage. And and again to
your point, I don't know what you do, Like there
have been instances in sports where you're like, okay, are
we taking the trophy back or we're taking the ringback
you find out college only I'm in college sports. That's
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the only place where they vacate.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, they would saying, hey, you had an eligible player,
we're gonna take that trophy.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
What did they do? They gave it back to like
Michigan and all that, Like am I right?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Like all that stuff and even Reggie Bush. Now it's
kind of exonerate. So it's just to me, you can't
do anything about it post. You have to do something
about it during. But I tell you what, they were
brazen too. I mean they was beating on it like
they were the bucket boys when you go downtown Chicago.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
But this is it wasn't like some secret. It was
loud as he Sometimes when people you know, say yeah
you can hit the trash cans and you go, oh, man,
I don't really hear. In this case, when you went
to the video YouTube, you were like, wow, it was
very am I right? It was like really obvious, not
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like oh I don't really hear nothing. They just over
they're exaggerated.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
This one was they were getting it in like the
if you know who I'm talking about the buck boys
in different cities.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That we ain't getting ubber Mads we need steel trash cans. Guys,
we need the acoustics. It sounded like boom doom, boom boom.
I thought it was the Little Mermaids. All I know
is there were like four people who wound up getting
h B. C U scholarship for the Marching band. That's
how good. Starting in the drum line, you gotta you
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got who knew? Are you quitting? Because I always wanted
to pursue my drummer. I just gotta. I just got
a full ride to Virginia State, right, full ride to
Virginia State. That was That was the storyline for drum
line too. When the World series wasn't enough. It would
have been funny for like a Chappell shop, Oh yeah,
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busy there and then him, I mean, of course, would
not want to take off the jersey out of respect
to my wife. With you, they ripped everybody's off, every
like everybody like almost naked. They rip your jersey off,
and he's like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And the way he yeah, and the way it was
face hey, he was like, dude, are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I got? What about the radio tape to my back?
I know what I got. He looked like he was
a snitch in a movie like that the party or
something that was wired up. You know, let me ask
you what the with all the technology of like NASA
and all that, I wonder if they could take that
video and and do an X ray to see what's underneath?
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Couldn't they? Because you know, let me tell you what,
they're not gonna do what you just okay, baseball right,
don't you think they have something that could test like
look at a picture or video and and and and
remove the clothing to see what. Well, the lady didn't
come put the way to vest on him. I don't
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know if it would work. I'm always, let me tell
you something, every time I get an X ray, I'm
always like, it's so damn Jewish, Like, should you be
doing this that you gotta put this thing on me?
Otherwise corner right, they're hiding. This is totally safe.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But with that clicker, I tell you what they could
have used, rob They could have just used whatever they
were using at those gambling games, them poker games. They
had X ray eye glasses and whatnot. They could have
just used those billups. Allegedly that all I said, allegedly,
it's okay, hey.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Dangs, see Bills that was my quarterback. It's pretty bad
though it is bad. The more you read it to
like and all the other details, like you start to
read like people always jump and then they you start
to read the indictment and read the evidence that they
have and the cell phone calls and and all the
other stuff. Then you Damon Jones where he has a
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text from a guy talk about YO, can you front
me ten grand? I need money? Blah blah blah. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You know what else comes becomes interesting? This stuff you
heard for years, something silly in the podcast that now
makes more sense. That happens every time one of these
types of things, because now you see Gilbarderena is telling
the story back in twenty twenty two when he was playing,
and he was like, so whenever I would the Cavs
would come in me, Damon Jones, Lebron would all gamble
with the crib and Damon needed some money. So that's
why you see, and it was an epic playoff game.
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Lebron crosses the free throw line like you know you
He's like, you know, who need this or something? He
was like, that's what he was saying, because I called
myself the landlord because he owe me money, Damon Jones.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You just start seeing it's like, oh but the other
one though, is the poker players. You've seen this Rob
g who was saying, oh they knew who'd say, Oh No,
They've been saying on podcasts for three years that they
got that Chauncey cheated them. Yeah, like that's what I
mean all this, that's what they said. I'm just repeating
what they said allegedly, but they this is on podcasts
from three years ago, not like the other night. Because
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this happened. It was almost remind me of the comedian
with the Bill Cosy Hannibal, right, who said that all
of a sudden and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That one, Yeah, you could cherry pick the moment because
the way he said and everybody laughing. He's like, I'm
not laughing now, He's like, look it up that even
doing this to women then and then and everybody's gonna
like has he And then Automoli article auto interviews him
and uh Larry King laughing about Spanish fly together like
remember a dosal dude?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Ah, And you're like, well this is interesting, well, you know,
speaking and not laughing.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Roger Goodell can't be laughing because the latest report is
Antonio Gates was involved in some of these two This
is not just an NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No sit ties right now. And as they continue to
pull the curtain back and start to you know what
I mean, like there could be a lot If somebody
offers you fifty thousand dollars to come play this and this,
hang out for two three hours, whatever it is, dude,
you can I don't care how much money you make.
Somebody offers you rob g fifty thousand to come hang
out for two hours. You're gonna play poker. It's not
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your money. You're not gonna lose anything. At the end
of the day. You walk out with fifty thousands and
I don't can hear you it will be my guess.
There's a way of insinuating without insinuating.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I mean, I'm not gonna exactly we're gonna have these
eyeglasses and then we're gonna have but just you know,
come on, I don't worry about you know you can
fast talk your way and also of you the player,
you can hear enough that you need to hear and
not hear enough that can incriminate you.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know what, I mean, I'm sure we don't know
his side yet, but I'm sure Chauncey's gonna be like
I wasn't wear.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I just came to, I played, and I left, played
chopped it up? They played me? What are the rappers?
A show up feed like you know you're out of
the club, an appearance feed, appeance feeds what I'm looking for. Yeah,
you may man, here's twenty five thouve come hang out?
You know? Yeah. So I can absolutely see.
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Speaker 3 (22:49):
The New York Jetripolitans got their first win of the season,
which is a big deal because they had a tumultuous
week to say the least. Woody Johnson came out publicly
and said his quarterback was asked Aaron Glenn tried to
bench him, but to Rod Taylor.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Hurt his knees so he couldn't. Is he he needed
to be praying whoever? Justin fields because man Ty Robby going.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Through it and after the game a game that day
came back from double digits to win resulted in Justin
Fields getting very emotional in the post game, both emotionally
and spiritually.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Yesterday, I'm praying, praying like crazy, just just for when,
just for when, and you know this this I'm gonna
get pretty vulner right right here. But uh, this week,
I kind of, you know, I found myself in my
closet crying on the ground, laying down, not because of
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not because of the hardships, not because of the troubles.
I felt like, you know, I was built to handle that,
and I was put in place to handle this situation.
But in that moment when I was talking to my
best friend, you know how hard it was and just
you know, not wavering faith wise. I just had gotten
a text for my sister and my stepmom and it
(24:15):
was just an encouraging text on you know, just keep
going and keep spreading the faith. And they just sent
me a link on on social media. And I tell
you guys all the time that I'm not on social media,
so I didn't see it. So that was just a
it was just a sign from God for me to
keep going and that you know, I'm in the right place. Yeah,
I was just I was just praying over and over
and over again, like yo, like just is just one
(24:37):
one win? And you know, but all that to say
is is that you know, God is real, God is good,
and everything that we go through in this life is
for a purpose.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
So yeah, I don't want to be a heat and
I don't people who believe in God, and I'm not
here to mock God or or make a scene or
or make this is how he feels or whatever. But
I just, dude, I can't take it. I just threw
up in my mouth. And I gotta tell you why,
(25:11):
because is that really where we are about a football game?
God is good because he won a football game. What
about the other players on the Bengals? Did anybody pray
that they wanted to win a game? But he picked
the Jets because Justin Fields really needed a win. So
this was God intervening. And am I misreading the message.
(25:34):
He's telling us that God intervened and helped the Jets
win a game because this is what he prayed on.
You don't think anybody else in NFL America is a
Christian or believes in a God or a higher being
or once good fortune and guess what, good fortune doesn't
always happen. That doesn't mean that God's good or bad
(25:57):
or indifferent or whatever, doesn't hear your prayers. But he
can't be the only guy. Maybe there were more guys
on the Bengals who prayed to God that they wanted
to beat the Jets, the god awful Jets. That's maybe
what happened. And this story, he's in the closet and
(26:19):
he's on his knees and crying and his prayers were answered. Really,
people are starving, people are in pain. Is God really
worried about the National Football League and helping somebody win
(26:42):
a football game? Is that really where we are? Because
I got a list for you, Almighty, and there's so
many things that need to be taken care of, and
it ain't a damn football game. Because one quarterback who
happened to be zero to seven and ridiculed by owner, said,
can you please answer my prayer?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Rob caution?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
First of all, Rob, I want I pray.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I believe why you're praise like a question. Let me
let me ay, Let me stoot over a little bit.
Just when the lightning strikes, do you turn to a
pillar assault?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I just done? It counts. Really, is that where we are?
Over a football game? Do you gonna have faith? You
could believe in stuff? All I'm saying is, where was
God when the Detroit Lions can't win the Super Bowl
for fifty years? Where was God when the New York
(27:48):
Getropolitans haven't won a Super Bowl since nineteen sixty nine?
Ask nick fans did they have they prayed to the
God above and ask for a when? Really, this is
where we're going. We're going to minimalize God about a game.
(28:08):
Come on, man, it doesn't feel good, it doesn't feel right.
I'm not being blasphemis. I'm just telling you the idea
that this is about a football game. Really, and he's
the only one who asked God that he needed to win,
the only one. No, I guess everybody on the Bengals
(28:31):
are heathens and there are no Christians or no people
who believe in the Word and the believe in God
at all. Because they lost and it didn't work out
for them, So what did they do wrong? Come on,
you could be a believer and talk about the Word
and all that equating it to winning a football game.
(28:51):
I'm good on that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
All right, there's a lot to unpack here, and I'm
you know I was teasing you about you know, the
lightning striking on it. But there's a lot I want
to I want to touch on here. So as a
fellow Christian, I absolutely believe God is real and I
absolutely God is good. That that is not debatable for
me personally. Here's where it gets tricky. God can be good,
(29:14):
but you and the Jets haven't been good justin fields,
And that's okay. That doesn't have to be that God
isn't good because the Jets haven't be good. Like there
can be a separate thing. And I want to educate.
I want to educate folks on this. I think there's
a misconception of vocation versus occupation. Vocation occupations. What you
(29:34):
do right is what we do justin fields is a quarterback.
Vocation is your deeper, more meaningful thing in life for
you and obviously for him, it's spreading the good news
and spreading the messages of Jesus. Christ is spread the
messages of God. And I think sometimes those get mixed
up with people, meaning you can be a bad football
player or your team is bad, you guys aren't playing well.
That doesn't have to do anything with your faith. Now,
(29:55):
for him, it's obviously trying to keep his his spirits high,
keep his strength high, keep his mo his spiritual you know,
intendas up and keep the faith for him and his team.
But where I worry about Justin Fields is mixing the
two of vocation and occupation. A lot and a lot
of people tend to do that, Like people will say nowadays,
especially on social media, if your job doesn't bring you
(30:16):
so much meaning and so much clarity and so much fulfillment,
you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Some people got to have a job that pays the bill.
You gotta have an occupation that has pays the bill.
You know what you can also do. You can also
have a vocational thing on the weekends where you volunteer
your time, You help tutor, you help the homeless, you
help go as soup kitchen and it help those who
are hungry. You can have an occupation and a vocation
that don't always have to be intertwined. Some people are
fortunate where they do it are twined. And I think
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Justin Fields is kind of in that where he's thinking
they have the too combine. So where I worry about
Justin Fields is the emotional and spiritual roller coaster. He's
going to go on. If this isn't every week thing,
You get what I mean? Like if every week that's
a lot dude playing a quarterback position. We talk about quarterbacks,
talk about with pitchers, talk about it in sports like tennis.
(31:04):
Next one, you double fault in the tennis, next one,
come on, focus, stay in pitchers throw a solo home run,
old tiny, didn't happen. You gotta clear out your mind.
Quarterbacks Patrick Mahons throwing two interceptions. Again, that didn't happen. Focus.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
My thing is my concern if I'm if I'm Aaron
Glenn and his team around him, is dude, the emotional
roller coaster that's gonna come. You had a good game.
We gotta win. What if we get blown out next week? Now?
Are you in the lows again? Then we win and
we you throw three touchdowns? Are you hot?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Like? I can't do the emotional and spiritual roller coaster
with you because part of this thing is being locked
in and being focused. What do we talk about with
guys like Freddy Freeman, Mookie Betts try not to ride
the emotional roller coaster. And it's difficult and it will
happen at times, But you try to be locked in
Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady, because that's gonna be too taxing
on him. If with every win er, every loss, or
(31:54):
every loll couple of game, bad games, two good games,
if he's gonna do that, that's gonna be difficult to
play this position. And as long as he wants to
play and be the leader of a team, because what
team is gonna look for steadiness?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Team's gonna look for you through two interceptions that you
come in a huddle. I owe you guys a couple
let's go my bad song, be let's go, you know.
And if he's quiet and amongst and I'm praying, and
that's gonna be a taxing and that doesn't have anything
to do that he's now a bad Christian because he's
not praying or not believing. It's more so, dude, the
position in which you play.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Leans towards consistency, good or bad, leans toward having a
being even killed and not riding a roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And that's what I'm concerned of. For not as spiritual.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's a personal thing between he and God, he and
his family, him and his personal walk with Christ. I'm
with that, But your team is gonna. They can't do this, Rob,
they can't do that because we need you. If we
go on a zero to three game, you know we do.
We need you if we ride three.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And though you don't mean if you mean winning.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's gonna happen to ride the up and down and
with Justin Fields, Dude, I feel exhausted.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You get what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
And it's too taxing at this position. He's twenty six
years old. I just looked it up in his mind.
I'm sure he believes he wants to play another decade.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
That's gonna be hard to play. It happens all the
time of coaches, Dude. I told this to Rob g
and even you JJ Reddick. You're gonna have to find
a hobby or something.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
When if a team loses and you go in the
locker room and you might hear guys, yo, man, tough loss.
Ay what you're doing tonight? Man, I'm probably gonna play
the video game on our me. I'm gonna take my
wife on to dinner. I'm gonna go I got this
chick man that magic sit. Guys are gonna do that.
And if after a loss, you're sitting there few minutes
a mouth. Why aren't they in the dark room watching
film like me and her? Dude, this stuff is gonna
be taxing. It's why you get coaches with heart conditions.
(33:38):
So I just worry about justin fields and being able
to be even killed, and being able to have some
you know, emotional stability, spiritual stability, playing a tough position
in the hardest sport, in the sport we love the most.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
They're saying, the season that this young man is putting
together makes Sa Kwan's twenty twenty four.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
Season look like junior varsity.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Jonathan Taylor in Indianapolis Colts. I know Danny Downs is
all the headlines, but is having a phenomenal first half
of this.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You just said the only thing that mattered what you
just said told you all. You know what, Let me
finish the setup.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
You get to your point, just Jonathan Taylor, you couldn't
even help it. Ran for another one hundred and fifty
three yards on Sunday. They had another three touchdowns in
their blowout wind over the time Titans entering Monday night.
Jonathan Taylor currently leads the NFL in rushing yards, rushing touchdowns,
scrimmage yards, scrimmage touchdowns, rush yards over ten yards, rushes
(01:13):
over twenty yards, fourth quarter rushing yards, rush yards after contact,
and misstackles forced, which is a long way of saying
that he is getting a ton of MVP love, both
inside the coach's locker room and outside amongst NFL fans.
And something tells me, Rob that you think that this
(01:34):
whole thing is a waste of time.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
I got news for everybody listening, is this on Voting
for Jonathan Taylor for MVP is like back in the
day voting for Ross Parole. Don't waste your votes. You
know what, You might as well go up to the
top of the Pinopscot building in Detroit and throw it off. Thing.
(02:01):
And Rob g just he couldn't even help it because
he had to give you the news and tell it
to you the right way. What he say, guess who's
getting all aheadline. It's all about Danny Dimes in the year,
Oh my god, because it's always about the quarterback it is.
That's where we are. If Saquon Barkley couldn't get a
(02:25):
sniff last year, good luck Jonathan Taylor, because it ain't
gonna Saquon almost broke the record, right, didn't play the
last game, had a chance, and he's still despite how
well he played, there was no rally cry for him.
The last time of running back you know won an MVP,
(02:48):
Moby Dick was a guppy. It's been forever, right, a
long time. That ship has sailed. Maybe they need to
just change the name of the award and make it
for the best quarterback on the best team or whatever
you want to call it, because it is not going
(03:11):
to go. The quarterback position is so important to the
to the a football team that without a quarterback you
have no I don't care what your running back is doing.
Without a quarterback, guess what you're going nowhere.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
The only thing I push back on that is I
do think some of the quarterbacks are having success throughout
history because of the running back. So you you look at,
you know, some of the guys, you would say, well,
this person had a really good year. Well Danny Danny Dimes.
Is he Danny Dimes? If Jonathan Taylor isn't the threat
that he is, give me the running back that the
Packers had. When Aaron Rodgers won four, Aaron Rodgers heard
(03:52):
I'm just I'm not knocking it like I'm just name
the top of the top of the guys. I'm talking
about middling guys who want to be meeting Danny Dimes was.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
To win this year. Oh he ain't winning, But you know,
like that you had running backs.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Kurt Warner was insane, but he also had Marshall Fulk,
which is why Marshall Falk won one and he won one.
Speaker 4 (04:10):
But Kurtkurt, Kurt is great.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
What I'm saying, the ability you came into that game
is a defense, like, shoot, I don't Marshall Fulk, do
we stop Kurt? It was like what the heck do
I do? And having an Edrian James helps the Peyton manning.
So I'm just saying the idea that just having the
quarterback as if Jonathan Taylor is if alt.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
But my point is if you're a team and you
don't have a quarterback, guess what you're not doing, Like seriously,
you could have a great running back. I know what
you're saying, like them playing off the quarterback the running
back because you have to be worried about him, so
that opens it up. That's what happened to Danny Dimes
in New York right with the Giants and sakuon that
There's no doubt about it. I'm just saying, but he
(04:51):
didn't want an MVP either. I'm just saying, if you
don't have a quarterback in this league, you're going nowhere, home, dinner,
maybe a show.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Here's the way, Jonathan, here's the old Matt to him
winning it one. We got into a huge debate me
and you last year, and I still stand by it.
I totally get your thought process. I just would have
gone for Itaquon Barkley. I want to have the rushing
title because I said, why can't he have They want
a championship? Why can't I have that rushing title? And
my and my super Bowl? He would have had both.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
No, But but here was the issue. It ain't just
about him playing. In order for Saquon to play, all
your linemen and everybody else, let's go okay, let's make
some magical Okay you say that now, Dickerson sitting at home, like,
but if somebody broke a leg or got injured on
that on your for your offensive line, that was the
(05:40):
best in the league. What I tell you about I
want people breaking legs. Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
I'm sad Scatterboo running around here right now. Thank you.
That was horrible to watch that that was gruesome, But
I would have won it both in the NFL, though
people get hurt, and I would have wanted the title
rushing title, and because I think that's the only way
the MVP happened. For running has to be something exceptional.
You can't get what they wanted. They won a Super
(06:05):
Bowl and I would have had two things.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
That's just me. Would have one how about they would
have the.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Howabouts now, like I was saying, the only way this
happens is he has to do something breaking the record.
It's kind of like what you talked about how you
failed the big dumper cal right, Like he had to.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Break judges record for the most and then there's no offense.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That to me is how the the that's the road
map for a running back to win. If Jonathan Taylor
rob Gen correct me, if I'm right, he's thirty one
with LT right, the leading touchdowns in the season with ltimembery,
he was going crazy with the little little tea cup thing.
Speaker 4 (06:47):
He would do uh in the end zone. If Jonathan
Taylor breaks that.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
And by the way, he has an extra game that
LT didn't have LT at sixteen he has seventeen, So
if he would have breaked that, then I think now
we get a chance. Would am I actually strongly looking
a running back? And the only other thing I think
that might walk work in his favor is people saying
what you're saying, and what other people I've said that
you said it?
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Were they here?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
It's only a quarterbacks and mine as well, not even
voted where people like to be contralled. All right, Well,
you know what, maybe Jonathan Taylor has been this exception.
This year he broke LC's record. He's at thirty two.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
The last year was the example that they could have
done that and broke the moment.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Let's say, let's say vocal like I want to win it.
The Eagles were like, no, it matters to us, and
they go and win it. Do you think he would
have gotten it had he won it like they say
they went for the record. He breaks the record by
twenty eight yards. Now he's the greatest rusher of all time.
Do you think they give him the MVP? I think
he would add a way better shot at and that's
what I mean. But I'm saying, but I but I
(07:44):
don't believe.
Speaker 4 (07:47):
I just don't. I just think that if he couldn't
get even without the record, he's still the yard he
put up. The impact he had with the Eagles, like
old that was his first year, they were like, seemed unbeatable.
The whole game plans for the Super Bowl was what
stop Sakwan. It was always about him. So my point is,
even with that and Rob g I don't remember what
(08:08):
the vote total was, but it wasn't close. Here's the right,
it wasn't close. While you're looking that up, Roger.
Speaker 1 (08:14):
The other good thing in Johnson Taylor's favor, Lamar Jackson's
not playing because Lamar Jackson does things and you and
I sit here, we can argue about this, but we
both agree he's insane and he does stuff at numbers
that are so ridiculous that it looks normal.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
And Lamar Jackson will be like, all right, at the
end of the season, forty two touchdowns, seven interceptions, he
rushed for another, you know, five touchdowns he had blah
blah blah, and you'll look at it and just like,
all right, that's your MVP. Josh Allen looks good. He
doesn't look crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
That's also in Jonathan Taylor's favor because nobody's looking Josh
Allen and Lamar Jackson looked ridiculous last year. They were
doing things you've never seen before. There's nobody jumping off
aside for him, right. Baker's kind of going down a
little bit. Matthew Stafford's there, but she's like maybe a
Jared Goff, but we know he never puts up the
gaudy number enough. Patrick Mahomes is right there, but you
(09:03):
wonder has he done it? You know, is are people like, oh,
he's had enough? So Jonathan Taylor's favorite. There's no Lamar
Jackson type craziness going on. So that's the one thing
I will say. But can he be the first non
quarterback since twenty twelve with Adrian Peterson? I think he's
got a shot. If he gets to thirty touchdowns or more,
I think that'll be the key because that's gonna be
the number if he if he either breaks the rush.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
The city does he playing Indianapolis. So the problem is
some votes are gonna go to Caitlyn Clark, so he
won't have enough votes. They that's all they think about it,
all they care about all. Can you give it? Vote?
Reggie Miler? What would have voting?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Now?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Last year they did the tier system?
Speaker 3 (09:41):
He vote for five guys, right, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson
the only ones who got first place votes.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
Think about that. He didn't get crazy, not even in
Philadelphia where they want, like the writer like like seriously,
that's kind of crazy, not even one first place.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
And just to give you some context, the gap between
Lamar who was second and sa Quan who was third,
was more than double the gap between sa Quan who
was third and Baker Mayfield who was tenth. They were
so one did only voting for those two guys and
everybody else, and that's what he wasn't even close?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Am I wrong either of you? That there's no that
this year? There's no Lamar and Josh. Those are from
Jump Boom. Those dudes were insane, crazy what they were
were all like witnessing it, you know, defining the moment
we had been waiting for. Josh, Allen, Lamar are doing
even better than he did of the year he wanted.
So I think there's no that this year.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
Now, he had his best year ever. That's what I'm saying.
There's none of that.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Nobody has those types of numbers, and I think that's
boding well for him.
Speaker 3 (10:46):
I think the only guy who well, I think a
quarterback is gonna win it either way. But the best
combination of the Josh Allen Lamar Jackson thing is the
guy we're gonna see it in about five minutes, pas
Patrick Mahomes, now that he has his guys back, the
last month or so has been on that trajectory where
he's putting up the MVP numbers.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Who told you that was about to happen? Who told
you that Kelvin was right?
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (11:12):
H too early? Are you block that number? Block that number? H?
Are you? Elijah? I need the video? You also told
you that just too long? I got too much. Well,
here's the question, is not time, but here's the question.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Yeah, if it goes the way this season is going,
and Jonathan Taylor finishes with about twenty one hundred total
yards and twenty eight touchdowns, Right, but Daniel Jones stays
at the pace he's on and he throws for thirty
five touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
No, Daniel Jones is not going to win them. No,
I'm saying yes. Is that going to work again?
Speaker 2 (11:50):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Because there'll be a split vote. And that's what happened sometimes.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
And even though we all agree that Jonathan Taylor is
the engine that makes them go.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
I think you're gonna say, we saw that in New
York with Saquon and Daniel Jones. Right, his best year
was when Saquan was running.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Only thing I'll say, Rob g and I mentioned it
earlier where it could go in his favor is we
do have precedence Marshall Fart winning in two thousand. Kurt
Warners put on stupid numbers two, but Marshall Fart was
just that, just going crazy with the receiving and the running.
So if Jonathan Taylor can have that kind of a
year because Daniel Jones ain't Kurt, maybe that'll help him,
(12:29):
is that the presidents are like now, he's just been
too outstanding that it has to be him.
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Speaker 4 (13:14):
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Speaker 1 (13:15):
Right, rob's the breaking news about George Springer and the
the the ask that the Dodger fans will do.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
What.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, the reputation that Canada has for being soft, it's
not going away anytime soon.
Speaker 4 (13:29):
Well, they do wear comfortable shoes up just saying that's
the that's the great part about Canadians. There's they were
very comfortable. They're just sorry smoke, No, really sorry. We're
telling you every time I've been up there. And I
used to go to Montreal in the in the heyday
when I was in my twenties, and the club, oh boy,
remember the name Shaye Perry. Shaye Perry was just a
(13:51):
fine establishment in Montreal. So you got a warm welcome
there in Toronto and the what you're saying absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, you know he's not gonna get a warm welcome
here tonight and game George Springer, and I think we
all know why because he was one of the ringleaders,
one of the foremost members of that cheating twenty seventeen
Astros trash can scandal.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Well that's the one that cost the Dodgers of the
world absolutely so.
Speaker 3 (14:15):
Ahead of tonight's Game three, Blue Jays manager John Schneider
was asked about what kind of reception he's expecting at
Chavez Ravine and whether or not we can expect that
George Springer is gonna get bootmercifully as he has every
time he's coming back here to La and Schneider said, quote,
you know, it's just I wish the baseball world would
(14:36):
just stop that whole thing, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
It's unfortunate, but you know he's ready for it. Man.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
If you don't get out of here with that sob story,
he and you know what George Springer gets to do,
and he dead and he wants walk around with a
World Series ring on. So the least he can do
is get some of these cries in jeers from Dodger
fans or whoever else wants to do it. Look, that's
a part of it, man. There's a consequence for actions,
and that's what they they are. A lot of the Astros.
I don't know if he was you know, he looked
like he was part of it, the trash ros with
(15:04):
a lot of people call him this is just part.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Of the course. And didn't they get a break? If
I remember, they remember they they did have fans. Remember
the next year wasn't wasn't it was mixed up?
Speaker 1 (15:16):
It was two years later because I was eighteen, Yeah right,
I remember, Like they didn't get the like the harshness
of what they should have received, like the crowd.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
And they also didn't get punished. They didn't get punished
as the main let's start there. They didn't get punished,
and they could have done something. They weren't going to
take the trophy away. I knew that. I just knew
that that wouldn't be it. But there should have been
some other punishment. There was punishment for people because other
people wind up losing jobs. Aj Hinch the general manager.
(15:46):
Remember Carlos Beltraan had had the Mets job. They took
that away from him. Like there was some damage, but
not as much as elective damage. And and again to
your point, I don't know what you do, Like there
have been instances in sports where you're like, okay, are
we taking the trophy back or we're taking the ringback
you find out college only I'm in college sports. That's
(16:07):
the only place where they vacate.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, they would saying, hey, you had an eligible player,
we're gonna take that trophy.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
What did they do? They gave it back to like
Michigan and all that, Like am I right?
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Like all that stuff and even Reggie Bush. Now it's
kind of exonerate. So it's just to me, you can't
do anything about it post. You have to do something
about it during. But I tell you what, they were
brazen too. I mean they was beating on it like
they were the bucket boys when you go downtown Chicago.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
But this is it wasn't like some secret. It was
loud as he Sometimes when people you know, say yeah
you can hit the trash cans and you go, oh, man,
I don't really hear. In this case, when you went
to the video YouTube, you were like, wow, it was
very am I right? It was like really obvious, not
(16:53):
like oh I don't really hear nothing. They just over
they're exaggerated.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
This one was they were getting it in like the
if you know who I'm talking about the buck boys
in different cities.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
That we ain't getting ubber Mads we need steel trash cans. Guys,
we need the acoustics. It sounded like boom doom, boom boom.
I thought it was the Little Mermaids. All I know
is there were like four people who wound up getting
h B. C U scholarship for the Marching band. That's
how good. Starting in the drum line, you gotta you
(17:23):
got who knew? Are you quitting? Because I always wanted
to pursue my drummer. I just gotta. I just got
a full ride to Virginia State, right, full ride to
Virginia State. That was That was the storyline for drum
line too. When the World series wasn't enough. It would
have been funny for like a Chappell shop, Oh yeah,
(17:47):
busy there and then him, I mean, of course, would
not want to take off the jersey out of respect
to my wife. With you, they ripped everybody's off, every
like everybody like almost naked. They rip your jersey off,
and he's like, oh no.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
And the way he yeah, and the way it was
face hey, he was like, dude, are you kidding?
Speaker 4 (18:11):
I got? What about the radio tape to my back?
I know what I got. He looked like he was
a snitch in a movie like that the party or
something that was wired up. You know, let me ask
you what the with all the technology of like NASA
and all that, I wonder if they could take that
video and and do an X ray to see what's underneath?
(18:32):
Couldn't they? Because you know, let me tell you what,
they're not gonna do what you just okay, baseball right,
don't you think they have something that could test like
look at a picture or video and and and and
remove the clothing to see what. Well, the lady didn't
come put the way to vest on him. I don't
(18:54):
know if it would work. I'm always, let me tell
you something, every time I get an X ray, I'm
always like, it's so damn Jewish, Like, should you be
doing this that you gotta put this thing on me?
Otherwise corner right, they're hiding. This is totally safe.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
But with that clicker, I tell you what they could
have used, rob They could have just used whatever they
were using at those gambling games, them poker games. They
had X ray eye glasses and whatnot. They could have
just used those billups. Allegedly that all I said, allegedly,
it's okay, hey.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
Dangs, see Bills that was my quarterback. It's pretty bad
though it is bad. The more you read it to
like and all the other details, like you start to
read like people always jump and then they you start
to read the indictment and read the evidence that they
have and the cell phone calls and and all the
other stuff. Then you Damon Jones where he has a
(19:52):
text from a guy talk about YO, can you front
me ten grand? I need money? Blah blah blah. You
know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
You know what else comes becomes interesting? This stuff you
heard for years, something silly in the podcast that now
makes more sense. That happens every time one of these
types of things, because now you see Gilbarderena is telling
the story back in twenty twenty two when he was playing,
and he was like, so whenever I would the Cavs
would come in me, Damon Jones, Lebron would all gamble
with the crib and Damon needed some money. So that's
why you see, and it was an epic playoff game.
(20:19):
Lebron crosses the free throw line like you know you
He's like, you know, who need this or something? He
was like, that's what he was saying, because I called
myself the landlord because he owe me money, Damon Jones.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
You just start seeing it's like, oh but the other
one though, is the poker players. You've seen this Rob
g who was saying, oh they knew who'd say, Oh No,
They've been saying on podcasts for three years that they
got that Chauncey cheated them. Yeah, like that's what I
mean all this, that's what they said. I'm just repeating
what they said allegedly, but they this is on podcasts
from three years ago, not like the other night. Because
(20:50):
this happened. It was almost remind me of the comedian
with the Bill Cosy Hannibal, right, who said that all
of a sudden and then all of a sudden.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
That one, Yeah, you could cherry pick the moment because
the way he said and everybody laughing. He's like, I'm
not laughing now, He's like, look it up that even
doing this to women then and then and everybody's gonna
like has he And then Automoli article auto interviews him
and uh Larry King laughing about Spanish fly together like
remember a dosal dude?
Speaker 4 (21:17):
Ah, And you're like, well this is interesting, well, you know,
speaking and not laughing.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Roger Goodell can't be laughing because the latest report is
Antonio Gates was involved in some of these two This
is not just an NBA.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
No sit ties right now. And as they continue to
pull the curtain back and start to you know what
I mean, like there could be a lot If somebody
offers you fifty thousand dollars to come play this and this,
hang out for two three hours, whatever it is, dude,
you can I don't care how much money you make.
Somebody offers you rob g fifty thousand to come hang
out for two hours. You're gonna play poker. It's not
(21:54):
your money. You're not gonna lose anything. At the end
of the day. You walk out with fifty thousands and
I don't can hear you it will be my guess.
There's a way of insinuating without insinuating.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
I mean, I'm not gonna exactly we're gonna have these
eyeglasses and then we're gonna have but just you know,
come on, I don't worry about you know you can
fast talk your way and also of you the player,
you can hear enough that you need to hear and
not hear enough that can incriminate you.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
You know what, I mean, I'm sure we don't know
his side yet, but I'm sure Chauncey's gonna be like
I wasn't wear.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
I just came to, I played, and I left, played
chopped it up? They played me? What are the rappers?
A show up feed like you know you're out of
the club, an appearance feed, appeance feeds what I'm looking for. Yeah,
you may man, here's twenty five thouve come hang out?
You know? Yeah. So I can absolutely see.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
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Speaker 3 (22:49):
The New York Jetripolitans got their first win of the season,
which is a big deal because they had a tumultuous
week to say the least. Woody Johnson came out publicly
and said his quarterback was asked Aaron Glenn tried to
bench him, but to Rod Taylor.
Speaker 4 (23:03):
Hurt his knees so he couldn't. Is he he needed
to be praying whoever? Justin fields because man Ty Robby going.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
Through it and after the game a game that day
came back from double digits to win resulted in Justin
Fields getting very emotional in the post game, both emotionally
and spiritually.
Speaker 6 (23:30):
Yesterday, I'm praying, praying like crazy, just just for when,
just for when, and you know this this I'm gonna
get pretty vulner right right here. But uh, this week,
I kind of, you know, I found myself in my
closet crying on the ground, laying down, not because of
(23:53):
not because of the hardships, not because of the troubles.
I felt like, you know, I was built to handle that,
and I was put in place to handle this situation.
But in that moment when I was talking to my
best friend, you know how hard it was and just
you know, not wavering faith wise. I just had gotten
a text for my sister and my stepmom and it
(24:15):
was just an encouraging text on you know, just keep
going and keep spreading the faith. And they just sent
me a link on on social media. And I tell
you guys all the time that I'm not on social media,
so I didn't see it. So that was just a
it was just a sign from God for me to
keep going and that you know, I'm in the right place. Yeah,
I was just I was just praying over and over
and over again, like yo, like just is just one
(24:37):
one win? And you know, but all that to say
is is that you know, God is real, God is good,
and everything that we go through in this life is
for a purpose.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
So yeah, I don't want to be a heat and
I don't people who believe in God, and I'm not
here to mock God or or make a scene or
or make this is how he feels or whatever. But
I just, dude, I can't take it. I just threw
up in my mouth. And I gotta tell you why,
(25:11):
because is that really where we are about a football game?
God is good because he won a football game. What
about the other players on the Bengals? Did anybody pray
that they wanted to win a game? But he picked
the Jets because Justin Fields really needed a win. So
this was God intervening. And am I misreading the message.
(25:34):
He's telling us that God intervened and helped the Jets
win a game because this is what he prayed on.
You don't think anybody else in NFL America is a
Christian or believes in a God or a higher being
or once good fortune and guess what, good fortune doesn't
always happen. That doesn't mean that God's good or bad
(25:57):
or indifferent or whatever, doesn't hear your prayers. But he
can't be the only guy. Maybe there were more guys
on the Bengals who prayed to God that they wanted
to beat the Jets, the god awful Jets. That's maybe
what happened. And this story, he's in the closet and
(26:19):
he's on his knees and crying and his prayers were answered. Really,
people are starving, people are in pain. Is God really
worried about the National Football League and helping somebody win
(26:42):
a football game? Is that really where we are? Because
I got a list for you, Almighty, and there's so
many things that need to be taken care of, and
it ain't a damn football game. Because one quarterback who
happened to be zero to seven and ridiculed by owner, said,
can you please answer my prayer?
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Rob caution?
Speaker 4 (27:09):
First of all, Rob, I want I pray.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I believe why you're praise like a question. Let me
let me ay, Let me stoot over a little bit.
Just when the lightning strikes, do you turn to a
pillar assault?
Speaker 4 (27:25):
I just done? It counts. Really, is that where we are?
Over a football game? Do you gonna have faith? You
could believe in stuff? All I'm saying is, where was
God when the Detroit Lions can't win the Super Bowl
for fifty years? Where was God when the New York
(27:48):
Getropolitans haven't won a Super Bowl since nineteen sixty nine?
Ask nick fans did they have they prayed to the
God above and ask for a when? Really, this is
where we're going. We're going to minimalize God about a game.
(28:08):
Come on, man, it doesn't feel good, it doesn't feel right.
I'm not being blasphemis. I'm just telling you the idea
that this is about a football game. Really, and he's
the only one who asked God that he needed to win,
the only one. No, I guess everybody on the Bengals
(28:31):
are heathens and there are no Christians or no people
who believe in the Word and the believe in God
at all. Because they lost and it didn't work out
for them, So what did they do wrong? Come on,
you could be a believer and talk about the Word
and all that equating it to winning a football game.
(28:51):
I'm good on that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
All right, there's a lot to unpack here, and I'm
you know I was teasing you about you know, the
lightning striking on it. But there's a lot I want
to I want to touch on here. So as a
fellow Christian, I absolutely believe God is real and I
absolutely God is good. That that is not debatable for
me personally. Here's where it gets tricky. God can be good,
(29:14):
but you and the Jets haven't been good justin fields,
And that's okay. That doesn't have to be that God
isn't good because the Jets haven't be good. Like there
can be a separate thing. And I want to educate.
I want to educate folks on this. I think there's
a misconception of vocation versus occupation. Vocation occupations. What you
(29:34):
do right is what we do justin fields is a quarterback.
Vocation is your deeper, more meaningful thing in life for
you and obviously for him, it's spreading the good news
and spreading the messages of Jesus. Christ is spread the
messages of God. And I think sometimes those get mixed
up with people, meaning you can be a bad football
player or your team is bad, you guys aren't playing well.
That doesn't have to do anything with your faith. Now,
(29:55):
for him, it's obviously trying to keep his his spirits high,
keep his strength high, keep his mo his spiritual you know,
intendas up and keep the faith for him and his team.
But where I worry about Justin Fields is mixing the
two of vocation and occupation. A lot and a lot
of people tend to do that, Like people will say nowadays,
especially on social media, if your job doesn't bring you
(30:16):
so much meaning and so much clarity and so much fulfillment,
you shouldn't do it.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
Well.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Some people got to have a job that pays the bill.
You gotta have an occupation that has pays the bill.
You know what you can also do. You can also
have a vocational thing on the weekends where you volunteer
your time, You help tutor, you help the homeless, you
help go as soup kitchen and it help those who
are hungry. You can have an occupation and a vocation
that don't always have to be intertwined. Some people are
fortunate where they do it are twined. And I think
(30:41):
Justin Fields is kind of in that where he's thinking
they have the too combine. So where I worry about
Justin Fields is the emotional and spiritual roller coaster. He's
going to go on. If this isn't every week thing,
You get what I mean? Like if every week that's
a lot dude playing a quarterback position. We talk about quarterbacks,
talk about with pitchers, talk about it in sports like tennis.
(31:04):
Next one, you double fault in the tennis, next one,
come on, focus, stay in pitchers throw a solo home run,
old tiny, didn't happen. You gotta clear out your mind.
Quarterbacks Patrick Mahons throwing two interceptions. Again, that didn't happen. Focus.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
My thing is my concern if I'm if I'm Aaron
Glenn and his team around him, is dude, the emotional
roller coaster that's gonna come. You had a good game.
We gotta win. What if we get blown out next week? Now?
Are you in the lows again? Then we win and
we you throw three touchdowns? Are you hot?
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Like? I can't do the emotional and spiritual roller coaster
with you because part of this thing is being locked
in and being focused. What do we talk about with
guys like Freddy Freeman, Mookie Betts try not to ride
the emotional roller coaster. And it's difficult and it will
happen at times, But you try to be locked in
Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady, because that's gonna be too taxing
on him. If with every win er, every loss, or
(31:54):
every loll couple of game, bad games, two good games,
if he's gonna do that, that's gonna be difficult to
play this position. And as long as he wants to
play and be the leader of a team, because what
team is gonna look for steadiness?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Team's gonna look for you through two interceptions that you
come in a huddle. I owe you guys a couple
let's go my bad song, be let's go, you know.
And if he's quiet and amongst and I'm praying, and
that's gonna be a taxing and that doesn't have anything
to do that he's now a bad Christian because he's
not praying or not believing. It's more so, dude, the
position in which you play.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Leans towards consistency, good or bad, leans toward having a
being even killed and not riding a roller coaster.
Speaker 4 (32:32):
And that's what I'm concerned of. For not as spiritual.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
That's a personal thing between he and God, he and
his family, him and his personal walk with Christ. I'm
with that, But your team is gonna. They can't do this, Rob,
they can't do that because we need you. If we
go on a zero to three game, you know we do.
We need you if we ride three.
Speaker 4 (32:51):
And though you don't mean if you mean winning.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
It's gonna happen to ride the up and down and
with Justin Fields, Dude, I feel exhausted.
Speaker 4 (33:00):
You get what I mean.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
And it's too taxing at this position. He's twenty six
years old. I just looked it up in his mind.
I'm sure he believes he wants to play another decade.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
Dude.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
That's gonna be hard to play. It happens all the
time of coaches, Dude. I told this to Rob g
and even you JJ Reddick. You're gonna have to find
a hobby or something.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Bro.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
When if a team loses and you go in the
locker room and you might hear guys, yo, man, tough loss.
Ay what you're doing tonight? Man, I'm probably gonna play
the video game on our me. I'm gonna take my
wife on to dinner. I'm gonna go I got this
chick man that magic sit. Guys are gonna do that.
And if after a loss, you're sitting there few minutes
a mouth. Why aren't they in the dark room watching
film like me and her? Dude, this stuff is gonna
be taxing. It's why you get coaches with heart conditions.
(33:38):
So I just worry about justin fields and being able
to be even killed, and being able to have some
you know, emotional stability, spiritual stability, playing a tough position
in the hardest sport, in the sport we love the most.
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