November 7, 2025 • 29 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Broncos fans should feel encouraged or discouraged by Denver’s ugly offensive performance in a win over the Las Vegas Raiders last night, argue if Jayden Daniels should return to the field this season if he gets medically cleared to play after dislocating his elbow, and explain why family members like the father of Chicago Bears wide receiver Rome Odunze would be wise to keep their critical thoughts about the team off of social media.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's less about the Raiders and more about Denver. Because
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Denver won their seventh straight game. They're eight and two,
their tops in the division, and nobody feels good about it.
And that's because last night they put on one of
the worst performances we've seen from a winning team basically ever.
Their offense finished with two hundred and twenty yards. They
punted seven times. Bo Nicks threw two picks. It was
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the fourth time this year the Broncos did not score
in the first quarter. They had four possessions that went
for negative yards, three of them in the third quarter alone.
They had eleven penalties as a team. It was a
fourth game this season a team has had ten plus penalties.
They were really, really bad. And this is a trend
that's been going off for them basically all year. Yes,
they won seven straight, but they have not looked good
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doing it in any way. They have trailed in every
game but won this season, and they have scored eighteen
or fewer points in three of their last five games.
But as they say you are, what's your record says
you are?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And they are eight and two. And guess what I
took away from that win last night?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What's that that the Broncos can get it done.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I have more confidence in the Broncos than ever before
because they had no reason.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
To win that game.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
They should not have won that game. Good team find
a way to win.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I am now more convinced than ever that they're going
to win the division. They're going to win the division
and take it away from the Kansas City Chiefs who
coming in. They've owned that division right since Patrick Mahomes
showed up.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And now.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I am convinced Denver will win that division. And that
is a great sign because it also means that there's
a potential that the Chiefs might not even make the
playoffs if Denver can beat them and put them in
the spot where they are because remember the Chargers are
even ahead of the Chiefs. But I didn't I didn't
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go away from that feeling worse about Denver. I actually
feel better about Denver. They had no business winning and
they did.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You're the only person on earth, including Sean Payton, bow
Knicks Dobbins, theyre JK Dobbins, They're running back and every
single person who is a Denver Bronco fan.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
How are you the one person who walked away from
that feeling better.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's how I know you went home and watched your
twenty fifth time watching the reruns of Mason, of matt
Lock of Golden Girls.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
There's no way you watched that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Did I not choke send you pictures of the game
last night?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
No, I just want him to buy the TV.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's all I know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I was watching, said, let me put a sport, let
me put a game on. He might chance hides and
he might want the TV. Now. No, if I put on,
if I put Matt Locke on her murdercy rope, he
ain't gonna want it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm paying for prime, trust me. I'm watching the game.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, all jokes aside. I hear what you're saying. In
a win is a win. I get that, like we
all have heard that. We know that, but there is
a such thing as a win that we didn't even like.
And when you start to have your coach, your quarterback,
you're running back and other people come out and they're
literally borderline crying that they're feel bad for the defense.
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You heard dobbins man. We can't keep doing this to
our defense. We dan keep I feel bad. We owe
them so much more. They keep playing great. We keep
making them have to go out there and make play
after play after play, and they have looked bad throughout
the season, have been a very confusing team. And also
I think what's making more troubling Rob, And again I
get what you're saying when is when they're eight and two.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The troubling thing is they were ten and seven last year.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Both Knicks as a rookie, Sean Payton, he and him
their first year together, you thought they were gonna take
a bigger step year two, they actually have taken steps backwards.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The offense has regressed, bo Nicks looks worse.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He's making more turnovers, making bad possessions, having bad drive
after bad drive. And they have the six They've played
the sixth easiest record a schedule six easiest schedule this season,
so a lot of those wins are against bad teams.
And I also say, I hear what you're saying about
winning division. However, when you look at the rest of
their schedule, this is where it gets tricky for the Broncos. Rob,
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and why they I get their frustration one hand, Hey,
you play out, we gotta win. The reason why they're frustrated, Rob,
is because they're saying next game for them, the sixteenth,
they play the Chiefs. Then coming up a couple of
games later, they play the Packers, then they play the
Chiefs again, then they close out against the Chargers. So
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they still have some big games against the same two
teams that are near.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Only gotta do is go only gonna do is split
though they don't have to go four and oh but
I'm saying, and the ideas you're gonna play them, yeah,
but you could play better.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They have a bye, right, and then they're gonna you
have it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think this is what so this is where Rob
Parker sees it as, oh, we're just winning. They're saying
we're not playing good enough to beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
See that's why I disagree.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I don't think that those games are the same compared
to the teams that they've played. You talked about the
week schedule and sometimes that happens, but there it tells
you how good they are that they couldn't because they're
teams who have lost to really bad teams right where
where there was no business they should have lost.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So like, just no way you watch the Broncos and
think that they I'm not saying they can't have a
great defense, that that is we are.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
But that but that, that's what but that. But that's
the part that I like. And they can only get better.
They can't play worse than they've played.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
They can't actually gotten worse though that you have they've gotten.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You think they're gonna be worse than they played yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That that that going forward against those four games you
talked about, you think they'll be worse than they played
last night.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Historically they're historically bad. What I'm saying is you don't
need to be slightly better than that. You need to
be a lot better than that.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Whenever you have defense travels, defense travel. Whenever you have defense,
you're always going to be in game. You're always gonna
have a shot to make plays and make up make
make plays. You don't need to blow people out to
feel good about this, to look like a Sean Payton
ran offense. They and that's why he's so. He's been
frustrated all seasons. He has been all season upset. Your
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defense had, let me give you one number, thirty seven
more sacks the last two years than the next closest
team they did.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is how they disrupt the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
They pressure a quarterback, They make these other teams look
bad offensively, but Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl like that.
Go back you're talking about they can't win Denver one.
Peyton Manning threw four hundred and three yards and one touchdown.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
A game tam was way better than this offense.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, no, I'm but they in that game. And I
remember and I.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Remember a game run Ge.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You remember when the Raiders went to the Super Bowl
in twenty two. What did what did Tampa Bay's defense do?
It was unbelievable. Hold on, hold on, unbelievable. Don't go
that far. Don't call this defense that defense, that a
timer that defense. Ravens have had a couple over the
last twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Don't go that far. Rob.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
My point is the reason why it ain't even about
me being frustrated. The reason why they're frustrated because they
know they need to be better. Because they know they
got to play the Tweet Chiefs twice, they got to
play the Packers, and they got to play the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
All they gotta do is split. They not, They don't
have to go four. No, I think they know they're
not good enough to split. They split, they split, then
they're on ten and four you're in good You're in
a good spot.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Ten and four would be great.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's the reason that they just expected to be win
every game. I mean, they're not gonna win eleven in
the expected to play better, that's the thing. And Sean
Payton knows that he wants to have a better offense.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Sounds good. Supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Sports on the short menu wins and losses, remember.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
And they know they got some losses on the way
if they don't get better.
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
We got some big news coming out of DC Jadeen Daniels,
who you'll recall last week, suffered an ugly dislocated elbow
and his left thankfully as his not throwing arm left
dabble dislocation. However, they got some great news that it
was announced today no ligament damage will not need surgery
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and as a result, at least for now, we'll not
going into your reserve, which means theoretically Jaden Daniels could
be back week thirteen for the Commanders, which, if you're
a football fan, that's great to hear. If you're a
fantasy football fan, it's great to hear. If you're a
Commanders fan, that's awesome. Here here's the only downside. Though
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Washington has lost four consecutive games, Washington is currently down
three of their.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Top five wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Washington plays Philadelphia two of the next three weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So even if you do get Jaden Daniels back, what
is he coming back to That's the question.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'll tell you what. He's not coming back to our
locker room to be playing. He ain't coming back to
his uniform. Listen, I love and admire the fact that
he wants to play. I'm big on that because I
think often you know, we had a nice run where
athletes you kind of start to worry, like, oh, do
they want to play?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Is a heart there?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I love that, But sometimes you have to look out
for the player. Sometimes you have to look out for
the franchise. And I think Jade and Daniel, I love
that you want to play. I love the heart, I
love the commitment. I love that your team loves you.
The leadership, bruh. We want to live to fight another
day with you. We want to have a decade plus
with you. We want you to be the man in
DC the DMV area and be the star and leader
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of this franchise. And the only way that we do
that is by being judicially smart with you. And sometimes
we got to just say, hey, have a seat, sit down.
You've already missed a handful of season games so far
this season, he's missed a few for a couple of seas,
and he had the left knee sprain that kept him out.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Then he had the right hamstring strain.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Now he's got this elbow, which, by the way, the
grace of God, because that looked like a horrible injury.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
I thought his arms about to snap off.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So to me, three and six, were down a bunch
of our receivers, and it's not like the Ravens have.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
A chance to come away and win this division right now.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And it looks like the vision is not necessarily going
to be there.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
So the way looks like it's the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So to me, if they were in the Ravens situation
where I could see, all right, we got a chance.
We got Lamar. He's a veteran, he's been doing this
for years. We got a veteran situation. This is his
second year. I don't want to go out there and
beat him up and have him and you hate to
say it, in RG three situation that has to be looming.
So if I'm the general manager of the own, I'm
going to dan Quinn and saying I'm not being You're
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not in a situation. If we sit him and you
guys lose out that you were getting fired, your position
is safe.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
We believe in you. We got our guy, we got
our coach.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Let's meet judicious and smart about this, live to come
back next year, healthy receivers, healthy, Jaden's healthy, and let's
go compete again and compete for this division again next year.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
To what are you talking about none of what you
just said makes any sense. And I'm gonna say this,
first of all, once he's cleared and he's healthy, he
should play.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm not talking about put him out there. If he's hurt.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You have a whole team full of players who still
want to.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Play and don't think the season is over.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
And there are other receivers who have been waiting for
their opportunity to play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Not that other guys are down.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Otherwise, what is the point on being on a team
if you're gonna throw in.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
The towel on everybody else if he's hurt. I get it.
You probably, like were one of the people who.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Wanted Zion Williamson not to play again in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I remember everybody saying.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Oh he and none to brew.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
If you're nineteen years old and you don't want to play,
I don't want that guy. Once he was healthy, guess
what Zion did. He went back and he played. You
should play. Michael Jordan got hurt early in his career.
Oh just take the season, Mike, and do we get
a better pick whatever. No, you want to play, you
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play for your teammates if you're healthy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Why can't they run off eight games in a row.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
They won miracle games last year that they had no
business winning.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's how you make name for people.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
There's no reason if you're telling me that the doctor
says that there's a chance at this or you know
he's not really one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But once he's cleared to play, guess what players do, Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Players play, That's why they're called players.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
No, you think he wants.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
To throw the toweling on the season once they're officially eliminated. Okay,
I'll buy that once they're officially eliminated, But I'm not
doing that now.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You just now you just threw me all off.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
No, I did not because Rob g said he might
not come back to week thirteen.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
By then, they could have lost another three.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Four, They could have won five in a row and
still be in there.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
You don't think they come by that. You just that
you talk about Marcus ready to.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Come back if he come if they won a few
games and got back, and you think he wouldn't come back.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, no, no, what I'm saying is if he they
already essentially are out.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But let's just say now when they out, they're not
officially out. They're not if they go four games, they're
not out out Mathematically they're not out. No, they're not
when I.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Come back with my franchise the face of my friends,
because him beaten doesn't means all year.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But that doesn't always going to get her whole injury.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
He's gonna stop him from getting hurt in week one
next year. We talk about it all the time. You
can't exact, can't se I don't want to waste I
want to just know what about the other forty six
players who won the roster, who want to play, who
are healthy and.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Want their leader. Nobody said that they want their leader.
He's sitting there copping out.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I can't believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
How ably he's not playing if we are coming, it
makes everyone sense to me. It's not as if he
just had a random you know, look, if he's healthy,
he should play. You disagree with that, up, I'm asking
you disagree with Okay, Now, I don't even understand. I
don't know what player you would be going to want
to lie. It's not it's an impossibility to be healthy
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because he has.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
A hamstring, a knee string, and a strain.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It's not impossible because they just said it. Rob g
When he set this whole story up. That means they
two different things.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Can't he play? Sure? Is he healthy? No? What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
What if I saw I saw Kevin Durant go out
there with a busted uh uh?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Killing my point? Can he could he have played? Yes? No?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, no, my point No, No, I did not put
your point.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
My point is that you don't throw in the towel
with the idea because you know pay no, because you're saying, oh,
throwing the town.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You wait till you'll wait till, we'll wait till next year. No,
there's not such thing. No a big no.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
No, it is second year quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
No, it's not absolutely because you can't guarantee that next year.
It doesn't get hurt right game. So what's the difference.
What's the difference? Gonna start over, can get hurt at
any time, play in the last three games, or not play.
He didn't even have a great year. I need him
to get more repped. He ain't the same quarterback he
was a year ago. Go get some more reps.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, well, you're gonna get some reps this summer. He
gonna get these reps this summer. He gonna come back
next year. Ain't no, ain't leave you bowing out absolutely
and throw in the towel on your teammate. Strategic the
last time, said star quarter guarantee this time, I guarantee that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Can you get out there.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And he got You're guaranteed me he ain't gonna get
hurt next year by doing this. Can you guarantee me
that that's called that's called life. Can you guarantee me there?
I might well? I fell down the stairs the other day.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Can you guarantee me that? No, that's part of but
I have to be strategic.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Ion, don't don't strategic, don't play?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Oh, my franchise quarterback, don't you want to playing to
Rob park Off Washington and guess what got you?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Better come have a seat.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You must be crazy. You better come have a season.
Players play, they're not looking to bow out.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You think you don't want to get the managers and
coaches do and owners.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I gotta think of the long term because the last
time I didn't do that with my star quarterback, he
got hurt, and next thing I know, he's sparring with
Rob Parker online.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
That's what happened the last time he got beats. That's
what happened.
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Speaker 4 (17:17):
Rob g family members have just lost it when it
comes to their family being, you know, stars in the
league now and them having these social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think it has more to do.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And I'm gonna say this, not just the idea that
you have a platform to say something, but I do
believe like where the money is in athletics and sports,
people feel like that the kid can't.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Get hurt, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Like in the old days, you could get cut or
you know what I mean, or team move off of
you or something. Whereas now that makes so much money.
I think they're empowered by that. My son sign up
six year, one hundred and fifty million dollar contract. I
can say whatever I want, right, I really believe that
the money has something to do with it. But Rob Gi,
we had another example of that with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's right, Roma Donsay's dad. Roma Rome said again, Rome, Roma,
Roma Dunza, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Go ahead, because sometimes that boy good too. He's really
freaking good.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
He's the Bear's number one receiving option, but he had
an off game last week. In their shootout win over Cincinnati,
first time in his NFL career, he was held without
a catch. He was only targeted three times, and so
after the game, his father, James went crazy on social media.
He was reposting posts saying that they should trade Rome
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to a team that will actually throw to him. Another
post declared that Rome should be seeing at least ten
targets per game. So it was a big firestorm in Chicago,
and today his son had to answer for his dad's sweets.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Take a listen. I don't make a big deal out
of it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Obviously he has his opinions on have mind, and he's
like he needs to voice those things on social media.
But you know that's that's his prerogative.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
But my son, uh, covin, where are you on this man?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Let me go here.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
One of the things that we all had this Rob
g Rob Parker, Alex. Everybody had that cousin, that sibling
or that best friend that when you hang out the ballpark,
you're playing some pickup hoops or you go to the club,
they always do.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
The ones right in the.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Checks that they couldn't cash. And now you got to
be in the middle of it, like, ah, shoot, you
didn't say something to him. You talking smack to her.
You're doing this in and to me, that's what a
lot of times, what's happening now with the advent of
social media with some of these parents, some of these friends,
some of these girlfriends, wives, husbands or whatever, is that
they start to write the checks that they can't cash.
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And what I mean by that is dad can go
crazy with the Twitter fingers right, say this, say that,
and I get it. It's coming from a loving place.
You want the best for your son, You love your son,
probably train your son. All that problem is when you
start saying any and everything. Now I gotta defend it.
It's coming to my social media. I'm getting at it.
I gotta go into the locker room. Does Cayleb Williams
look at me differently, like have you been whispering something
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to your dad? Are you pillo talking with your girl
with your dad?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You know? Are you're saying stuff?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And then you got to go say no, no, no, that's
his opinion, that's not mine. And when it keeps happening repeatedly,
it ends up falling on the player. You're doing more
damage to the player when you openly criticize, regularly, routinely.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Look, I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
We can all have a frustrated moment. We now have
the ability to get our thoughts out there that you
have just yell at a TV or yell at your dog,
or yell at your sibly your spouse with somebody. Now
you can get on the phone and go on Instagram.
You can go at the trolls, you can go back
at them. And I think sometimes we forget that ends
up being detrimental to your whoever the person is in
your life, in this case his son. Because now I
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gotta feel questions, Rob, Now I gotta look at you know,
wonderfu my teammates looking at me differently. Now I gotta
go back and forth all day. And to me, it's
just there's no gain from there's no win from it.
It's gonna hurt you, it's gonna make you look bad,
and it's gonna potentially hurt your son or your daughter
of whoever the athlete is, and there's no upside. So
I just I know it's difficult because we have the
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technology to respond to people just because you can doesn't
mean you should, as hard as it may be, because
now it all comes on him in, week in, week out,
he's gonna have to come up questions. And now we
see it with some other team Morant, John Moran's dad
getting into it with Sho Shanna Sharp. They about to
scrap they doing this. It's just too much can happen.
And there's no real game when you're doing this to me.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I just I think it's terrible and I cannot. I
don't have kids. I couldn't imagine embarrassing my son or daughter,
you know, by by going out and speaking out, especially
when you consider the numbers that he's already put up
this year. He leads, right, rob g we talked about earlier.
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He leads it almost yeah and almost every category. It
was a bad game or whatever, and it's coming off.
It ain't coming off. The Bears got shut out eight
to nothing and he didn't get any balls or whatever.
They actually won the game and put up forty seven points.
And that's the game, right that you're going to speak
out as a win that put them at five and
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three and a big time comeback win.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And then he has to answer, and I don't care.
He could say that's my dad, I have nothing to
do it or whatever. Dude, you know that people are
like he texting his.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Dad, whinding like whining, winding like a girl, I'm not
getting the ball whatever, and his dad.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Is just echoing no sentiments.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Right, that's not his dad.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
That's him talking to his dad, and his dad is
the one putting it out there. And that's what it
sounds like. It's just like when Halliburton's dad ran out
on the court and did all that.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
What are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I gotta answer questions about it and what are you doing?
And you know what, I'm glad you brought that a Rob,
because you know what it forces to what nobody wants
to do.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Halliburton had to go against his dad publicly.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But like, now I gotta separate myself from you because
you did something that was not smart. Now if you're
if you're the dude's ay, Now I gotta ask my pops.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
He does what he do?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I do what I do that. I don't want to
do that, but when you do these things, I have to.
I have to and watch this Rob. He's a he's
a he's a young quarter he's mephrase that young receiver,
first year Caleb Williams, first year really under Ben Johnson
new system.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
This isn't year eight where you could be like, look,
I'm tired of it being seven eight years and that's badness.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
This is a handful of games into the first year,
the first year altogether coordinator.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Cou got the most receptions.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, like, give, I could completely understand if this has
been three to four years of ineptitude, if he was
playing with the Panthers, playing with the Raiders, it looks horrible.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I get that. At that point, you're blowing a gasket.
I've had enough.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
This is there, they're they're five and three. He's leading
team in receptions. He looks good.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Anybody who has eyeball see that. He looks really good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And it's a connection. Though doesn't feel like he has
a connection with Caleb.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And I know he wants more, without a doubt he's
he's a guy who might wants more.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
We get that.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But if this is what we're doing week eight nine, rob,
what are we gonna do week? Like I said, year
two or three, If it's not going the way he wants,
you get what I mean, it's week eight.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
You guys are five and three right there in the division.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I mean, I'm asking you, Rob G, I'm asking you Kelvin.
As fathers you have, you don't try to Are you
really trying to go out and embarrass your kids? Seriously?
I just feel like I wouldn't want to do that,
and I always I know that my parents were always
conscious of that, like you know what I mean, like
like not wanting to embarrass the kids.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I think the thing for me, Rob if he were
being defit, Let's say he had a horrible injury, and
then everybody's all he weak. He don't want to I
get that, right. This is just off of a game
you won. This is just getting more targets. In your mind,
that's not worth putting him out there. If you just
lost it because you were defending your son who got
his knee shredded and you you know what I mean,
and there are week get back out there. I can
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understand that because you're coming to his honor. That's different
than berating the team and the targets and Caleb and
real offense. That's that's not necessary standing up for your
son who maybe again, Let's say he stood up for
something like Colin Kaepernick type of thing, and you were like, no,
he's trying to do it for the betterment of people.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Standing up for that. I get the idea that you're
berating a team that's five and three. He's the leading receiver.
They're trying to find their way.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's the first year with the new coach, in the
new system, first year together with Caleb Week eight or nine.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
What are we doing here? Pops?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
In the social media era, especially, you should only be
a cheerleader. You better not say a damn thing that's
critical of your quarterback, of a teammate, of the coaching
in any way, shape or critical of the city that
you're playing in.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It just doesn't make because.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
There's no win.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, there's no win there.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Like asking Al Horford's sister how was it to for
to talk crap about the city of Boston, and everything
she said was accurate, by the way, but all it
led to you was, Hey, Al, your sister was on
social media yesterday saying there's a lot of racism in
the city of Boston.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Cared weigh in on it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Right, if he comes out and says what he honestly
feels he's aliening alf the fan base, right, And it's
just like, there's no win in you going out of
your way to be critical of things you have no
control over.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And especially in this situation where you're coming off of
a big victory, right, a last second victory where you
weren't supposed to win that game, and the talk should
be about that. Being five and three in the division,
you're in the hunt. My god, they're alive. Like really,
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it's like the right, It's like the Marvin Harrison right,
with the same kind of thing, like, uh, well, I
ain't saying this, but yeah, yes you are. You went
to ESPN dot com and you had these quotes about
the offense and this, and that he didn't mention that
his son dropped up some of the easiest touchdowns ever
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and on.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
So many other bad plays.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Also, Pops, you play with Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean, come on, Pops, I know you want the best,
but Pops, you played with Peyton, Reggie, Wayne Stokely, Edrin James,
y'all had a lot going on over.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
There was going back to Rome.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Is there a way that his dad could have conveyed
that message, Yes, without making.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What you said problem, this is what you say. I
look at this team and I know how talented Ben
Johnson is as a play caller. We know Caleb as
a Heisman winner, and my son is a beast. I
definitely expect more, you know more, whether if he wanted
to say, a better offense, you know, more continuity, you know,
like you can.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's a really lating tweet tweet for no.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
He pays for the one. He paid for, the one
where you give it, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Could he have just said something like, man, just wait
till they get Rome fully integrated as well.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm moving forward there way.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
To the continent. This is only year one way two
years old.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Maybe what a win when you think about it that
they scored forty seven points and Rome wasn't even involved,
Like like that told you what?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's even scary, right that could be you know what
I'm saying, like something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
That was a great one. Rob, that's a great one.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Had no trade him somewhere else? He needs that targets
a game.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And I'm like, Pops, this is eight game nine dude.
We got a whole new system. I'm a rookie.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We got a nine game love.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We haven't had a winning record that's laying to the
season in twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I'm just yeah, I think what's the last point for me.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
One of the things that's blown me away about social media,
I think y'all will feel me on this was our
concern about young people.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Ultimately, what I've been.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Blown away the last decade is forty to fifty and
sixty year olds on social media who make a full
of themselves regularly.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
That has been the number one take away from me.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Not the kids. Kids actually like you guys are dweeds.
We're going over there, kids make fun of us. It's
the adults, super big adults that do crazy, wild in
anything on social media.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
That has been more shocking than anyth
It's less about the Raiders and more about Denver. Because
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Denver won their seventh straight game. They're eight and two,
their tops in the division, and nobody feels good about it.
And that's because last night they put on one of
the worst performances we've seen from a winning team basically ever.
Their offense finished with two hundred and twenty yards. They
punted seven times. Bo Nicks threw two picks. It was
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the fourth time this year the Broncos did not score
in the first quarter. They had four possessions that went
for negative yards, three of them in the third quarter alone.
They had eleven penalties as a team. It was a
fourth game this season a team has had ten plus penalties.
They were really, really bad. And this is a trend
that's been going off for them basically all year. Yes,
they won seven straight, but they have not looked good
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doing it in any way. They have trailed in every
game but won this season, and they have scored eighteen
or fewer points in three of their last five games.
But as they say you are, what's your record says
you are?
Speaker 2 (01:01):
And they are eight and two. And guess what I
took away from that win last night?
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What's that that the Broncos can get it done.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
I have more confidence in the Broncos than ever before
because they had no reason.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
To win that game.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
They should not have won that game. Good team find
a way to win.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
I am now more convinced than ever that they're going
to win the division. They're going to win the division
and take it away from the Kansas City Chiefs who
coming in. They've owned that division right since Patrick Mahomes
showed up.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
And now.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I am convinced Denver will win that division. And that
is a great sign because it also means that there's
a potential that the Chiefs might not even make the
playoffs if Denver can beat them and put them in
the spot where they are because remember the Chargers are
even ahead of the Chiefs. But I didn't I didn't
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go away from that feeling worse about Denver. I actually
feel better about Denver. They had no business winning and
they did.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You're the only person on earth, including Sean Payton, bow
Knicks Dobbins, theyre JK Dobbins, They're running back and every
single person who is a Denver Bronco fan.
Speaker 5 (02:21):
How are you the one person who walked away from
that feeling better.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
That's how I know you went home and watched your
twenty fifth time watching the reruns of Mason, of matt
Lock of Golden Girls.
Speaker 5 (02:32):
There's no way you watched that.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Did I not choke send you pictures of the game
last night?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
No, I just want him to buy the TV.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
That's all I know.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I was watching, said, let me put a sport, let
me put a game on. He might chance hides and
he might want the TV. Now. No, if I put on,
if I put Matt Locke on her murdercy rope, he
ain't gonna want it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm paying for prime, trust me. I'm watching the game.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, all jokes aside. I hear what you're saying. In
a win is a win. I get that, like we
all have heard that. We know that, but there is
a such thing as a win that we didn't even like.
And when you start to have your coach, your quarterback,
you're running back and other people come out and they're
literally borderline crying that they're feel bad for the defense.
(03:14):
You heard dobbins man. We can't keep doing this to
our defense. We dan keep I feel bad. We owe
them so much more. They keep playing great. We keep
making them have to go out there and make play
after play after play, and they have looked bad throughout
the season, have been a very confusing team. And also
I think what's making more troubling Rob, And again I
get what you're saying when is when they're eight and two.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
The troubling thing is they were ten and seven last year.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Both Knicks as a rookie, Sean Payton, he and him
their first year together, you thought they were gonna take
a bigger step year two, they actually have taken steps backwards.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
The offense has regressed, bo Nicks looks worse.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
He's making more turnovers, making bad possessions, having bad drive
after bad drive. And they have the six They've played
the sixth easiest record a schedule six easiest schedule this season,
so a lot of those wins are against bad teams.
And I also say, I hear what you're saying about
winning division. However, when you look at the rest of
their schedule, this is where it gets tricky for the Broncos. Rob,
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and why they I get their frustration one hand, Hey,
you play out, we gotta win. The reason why they're frustrated, Rob,
is because they're saying next game for them, the sixteenth,
they play the Chiefs. Then coming up a couple of
games later, they play the Packers, then they play the
Chiefs again, then they close out against the Chargers. So
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they still have some big games against the same two
teams that are near.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Only gotta do is go only gonna do is split
though they don't have to go four and oh but
I'm saying, and the ideas you're gonna play them, yeah,
but you could play better.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
They have a bye, right, and then they're gonna you
have it.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I think this is what so this is where Rob
Parker sees it as, oh, we're just winning. They're saying
we're not playing good enough to beat the Chiefs.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
See that's why I disagree.
Speaker 4 (04:54):
I don't think that those games are the same compared
to the teams that they've played. You talked about the
week schedule and sometimes that happens, but there it tells
you how good they are that they couldn't because they're
teams who have lost to really bad teams right where
where there was no business they should have lost.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
So like, just no way you watch the Broncos and
think that they I'm not saying they can't have a
great defense, that that is we are.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
But that but that, that's what but that. But that's
the part that I like. And they can only get better.
They can't play worse than they've played.
Speaker 5 (05:26):
They can't actually gotten worse though that you have they've gotten.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
You think they're gonna be worse than they played yesterday.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
That that that going forward against those four games you
talked about, you think they'll be worse than they played
last night.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Historically they're historically bad. What I'm saying is you don't
need to be slightly better than that. You need to
be a lot better than that.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Whenever you have defense travels, defense travel. Whenever you have defense,
you're always going to be in game. You're always gonna
have a shot to make plays and make up make
make plays. You don't need to blow people out to
feel good about this, to look like a Sean Payton
ran offense. They and that's why he's so. He's been
frustrated all seasons. He has been all season upset. Your
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defense had, let me give you one number, thirty seven
more sacks the last two years than the next closest
team they did.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
This is how they disrupt the quarterback.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
They pressure a quarterback, They make these other teams look
bad offensively, but Peyton Manning won a Super Bowl like that.
Go back you're talking about they can't win Denver one.
Peyton Manning threw four hundred and three yards and one touchdown.
Speaker 5 (06:35):
A game tam was way better than this offense.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
No, no, I'm but they in that game. And I
remember and I.
Speaker 5 (06:42):
Remember a game run Ge.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
You remember when the Raiders went to the Super Bowl
in twenty two. What did what did Tampa Bay's defense do?
It was unbelievable. Hold on, hold on, unbelievable. Don't go
that far. Don't call this defense that defense, that a
timer that defense. Ravens have had a couple over the
last twenty five years.
Speaker 5 (07:03):
Don't go that far. Rob.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
My point is the reason why it ain't even about
me being frustrated. The reason why they're frustrated because they
know they need to be better. Because they know they
got to play the Tweet Chiefs twice, they got to
play the Packers, and they got to play the Chargers.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
All they gotta do is split. They not, They don't
have to go four. No, I think they know they're
not good enough to split. They split, they split, then
they're on ten and four you're in good You're in
a good spot.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Ten and four would be great.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
That's the reason that they just expected to be win
every game. I mean, they're not gonna win eleven in
the expected to play better, that's the thing. And Sean
Payton knows that he wants to have a better offense.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Sounds good. Supposed to be doing.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Sports on the short menu wins and losses, remember.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
And they know they got some losses on the way
if they don't get better.
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Speaker 1 (08:30):
We got some big news coming out of DC Jadeen Daniels,
who you'll recall last week, suffered an ugly dislocated elbow
and his left thankfully as his not throwing arm left
dabble dislocation. However, they got some great news that it
was announced today no ligament damage will not need surgery
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and as a result, at least for now, we'll not
going into your reserve, which means theoretically Jaden Daniels could
be back week thirteen for the Commanders, which, if you're
a football fan, that's great to hear. If you're a
fantasy football fan, it's great to hear. If you're a
Commanders fan, that's awesome. Here here's the only downside. Though
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Washington has lost four consecutive games, Washington is currently down
three of their.
Speaker 2 (09:22):
Top five wide receivers.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Washington plays Philadelphia two of the next three weeks.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
So even if you do get Jaden Daniels back, what
is he coming back to That's the question.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I'll tell you what. He's not coming back to our
locker room to be playing. He ain't coming back to
his uniform. Listen, I love and admire the fact that
he wants to play. I'm big on that because I
think often you know, we had a nice run where
athletes you kind of start to worry, like, oh, do
they want to play?
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Is a heart there?
Speaker 3 (09:52):
I love that, But sometimes you have to look out
for the player. Sometimes you have to look out for
the franchise. And I think Jade and Daniel, I love
that you want to play. I love the heart, I
love the commitment. I love that your team loves you.
The leadership, bruh. We want to live to fight another
day with you. We want to have a decade plus
with you. We want you to be the man in
DC the DMV area and be the star and leader
(10:14):
of this franchise. And the only way that we do
that is by being judicially smart with you. And sometimes
we got to just say, hey, have a seat, sit down.
You've already missed a handful of season games so far
this season, he's missed a few for a couple of seas,
and he had the left knee sprain that kept him out.
Speaker 5 (10:28):
Then he had the right hamstring strain.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Now he's got this elbow, which, by the way, the
grace of God, because that looked like a horrible injury.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
I thought his arms about to snap off.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
So to me, three and six, were down a bunch
of our receivers, and it's not like the Ravens have.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
A chance to come away and win this division right now.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
And it looks like the vision is not necessarily going
to be there.
Speaker 5 (10:48):
So the way looks like it's the Eagles.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
So to me, if they were in the Ravens situation
where I could see, all right, we got a chance.
We got Lamar. He's a veteran, he's been doing this
for years. We got a veteran situation. This is his
second year. I don't want to go out there and
beat him up and have him and you hate to
say it, in RG three situation that has to be looming.
So if I'm the general manager of the own, I'm
going to dan Quinn and saying I'm not being You're
(11:13):
not in a situation. If we sit him and you
guys lose out that you were getting fired, your position
is safe.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
We believe in you. We got our guy, we got
our coach.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Let's meet judicious and smart about this, live to come
back next year, healthy receivers, healthy, Jaden's healthy, and let's
go compete again and compete for this division again next year.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
To what are you talking about none of what you
just said makes any sense. And I'm gonna say this,
first of all, once he's cleared and he's healthy, he
should play.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
I'm not talking about put him out there. If he's hurt.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
You have a whole team full of players who still
want to.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Play and don't think the season is over.
Speaker 4 (11:52):
And there are other receivers who have been waiting for
their opportunity to play.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Not that other guys are down.
Speaker 4 (11:59):
Otherwise, what is the point on being on a team
if you're gonna throw in.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
The towel on everybody else if he's hurt. I get it.
You probably, like were one of the people who.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
Wanted Zion Williamson not to play again in college basketball.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I remember everybody saying.
Speaker 5 (12:15):
Oh he and none to brew.
Speaker 4 (12:19):
If you're nineteen years old and you don't want to play,
I don't want that guy. Once he was healthy, guess
what Zion did. He went back and he played. You
should play. Michael Jordan got hurt early in his career.
Oh just take the season, Mike, and do we get
a better pick whatever. No, you want to play, you
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play for your teammates if you're healthy.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
Why can't they run off eight games in a row.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
They won miracle games last year that they had no
business winning.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
That's how you make name for people.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
There's no reason if you're telling me that the doctor
says that there's a chance at this or you know
he's not really one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm with you.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
But once he's cleared to play, guess what players do, Kelvin.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Players play, That's why they're called players.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
No, you think he wants.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
To throw the toweling on the season once they're officially eliminated. Okay,
I'll buy that once they're officially eliminated, But I'm not
doing that now.
Speaker 5 (13:23):
You just now you just threw me all off.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
No, I did not because Rob g said he might
not come back to week thirteen.
Speaker 5 (13:30):
By then, they could have lost another three.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Four, They could have won five in a row and
still be in there.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
You don't think they come by that. You just that
you talk about Marcus ready to.
Speaker 4 (13:39):
Come back if he come if they won a few
games and got back, and you think he wouldn't come back.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
No, no, no, what I'm saying is if he they
already essentially are out.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
But let's just say now when they out, they're not
officially out. They're not if they go four games, they're
not out out Mathematically they're not out. No, they're not
when I.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Come back with my franchise the face of my friends,
because him beaten doesn't means all year.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
But that doesn't always going to get her whole injury.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
He's gonna stop him from getting hurt in week one
next year. We talk about it all the time. You
can't exact, can't se I don't want to waste I
want to just know what about the other forty six
players who won the roster, who want to play, who
are healthy and.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
Want their leader. Nobody said that they want their leader.
He's sitting there copping out.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
I can't believe that.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
How ably he's not playing if we are coming, it
makes everyone sense to me. It's not as if he
just had a random you know, look, if he's healthy,
he should play. You disagree with that, up, I'm asking
you disagree with Okay, Now, I don't even understand. I
don't know what player you would be going to want
to lie. It's not it's an impossibility to be healthy
(14:52):
because he has.
Speaker 5 (14:53):
A hamstring, a knee string, and a strain.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It's not impossible because they just said it. Rob g
When he set this whole story up. That means they
two different things.
Speaker 5 (15:04):
Can't he play? Sure? Is he healthy? No? What are
you talking about?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
What if I saw I saw Kevin Durant go out
there with a busted uh uh?
Speaker 5 (15:14):
Killing my point? Can he could he have played? Yes? No?
Speaker 2 (15:18):
No, no, my point No, No, I did not put
your point.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
My point is that you don't throw in the towel
with the idea because you know pay no, because you're saying, oh,
throwing the town.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
You wait till you'll wait till, we'll wait till next year. No,
there's not such thing. No a big no.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
No, it is second year quarterback.
Speaker 4 (15:38):
No, it's not absolutely because you can't guarantee that next year.
It doesn't get hurt right game. So what's the difference.
What's the difference? Gonna start over, can get hurt at
any time, play in the last three games, or not play.
He didn't even have a great year. I need him
to get more repped. He ain't the same quarterback he
was a year ago. Go get some more reps.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Yeah, well, you're gonna get some reps this summer. He
gonna get these reps this summer. He gonna come back
next year. Ain't no, ain't leave you bowing out absolutely
and throw in the towel on your teammate. Strategic the
last time, said star quarter guarantee this time, I guarantee that.
Speaker 5 (16:16):
Can you get out there.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
And he got You're guaranteed me he ain't gonna get
hurt next year by doing this. Can you guarantee me
that that's called that's called life. Can you guarantee me there?
I might well? I fell down the stairs the other day.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Can you guarantee me that? No, that's part of but
I have to be strategic.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Ion, don't don't strategic, don't play?
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Oh, my franchise quarterback, don't you want to playing to
Rob park Off Washington and guess what got you?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Better come have a seat.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
You must be crazy. You better come have a season.
Players play, they're not looking to bow out.
Speaker 5 (16:50):
You think you don't want to get the managers and
coaches do and owners.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
I gotta think of the long term because the last
time I didn't do that with my star quarterback, he
got hurt, and next thing I know, he's sparring with
Rob Parker online.
Speaker 5 (17:01):
That's what happened the last time he got beats. That's
what happened.
Speaker 6 (17:05):
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Speaker 4 (17:17):
Rob g family members have just lost it when it
comes to their family being, you know, stars in the
league now and them having these social media platforms.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
I think it has more to do.
Speaker 4 (17:34):
And I'm gonna say this, not just the idea that
you have a platform to say something, but I do
believe like where the money is in athletics and sports,
people feel like that the kid can't.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Get hurt, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Like in the old days, you could get cut or
you know what I mean, or team move off of
you or something. Whereas now that makes so much money.
I think they're empowered by that. My son sign up
six year, one hundred and fifty million dollar contract. I
can say whatever I want, right, I really believe that
the money has something to do with it. But Rob Gi,
we had another example of that with the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1 (18:11):
That's right, Roma Donsay's dad. Roma Rome said again, Rome, Roma,
Roma Dunza, Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Go ahead, because sometimes that boy good too. He's really
freaking good.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
He's the Bear's number one receiving option, but he had
an off game last week. In their shootout win over Cincinnati,
first time in his NFL career, he was held without
a catch. He was only targeted three times, and so
after the game, his father, James went crazy on social media.
He was reposting posts saying that they should trade Rome
(18:45):
to a team that will actually throw to him. Another
post declared that Rome should be seeing at least ten
targets per game. So it was a big firestorm in Chicago,
and today his son had to answer for his dad's sweets.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Take a listen. I don't make a big deal out
of it.
Speaker 4 (19:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (19:00):
Obviously he has his opinions on have mind, and he's
like he needs to voice those things on social media.
But you know that's that's his prerogative.
Speaker 4 (19:07):
But my son, uh, covin, where are you on this man?
Speaker 5 (19:15):
Let me go here.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
One of the things that we all had this Rob
g Rob Parker, Alex. Everybody had that cousin, that sibling
or that best friend that when you hang out the ballpark,
you're playing some pickup hoops or you go to the club,
they always do.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
The ones right in the.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
Checks that they couldn't cash. And now you got to
be in the middle of it, like, ah, shoot, you
didn't say something to him. You talking smack to her.
You're doing this in and to me, that's what a
lot of times, what's happening now with the advent of
social media with some of these parents, some of these friends,
some of these girlfriends, wives, husbands or whatever, is that
they start to write the checks that they can't cash.
(19:51):
And what I mean by that is dad can go
crazy with the Twitter fingers right, say this, say that,
and I get it. It's coming from a loving place.
You want the best for your son, You love your son,
probably train your son. All that problem is when you
start saying any and everything. Now I gotta defend it.
It's coming to my social media. I'm getting at it.
I gotta go into the locker room. Does Cayleb Williams
look at me differently, like have you been whispering something
(20:13):
to your dad? Are you pillo talking with your girl
with your dad?
Speaker 5 (20:16):
You know? Are you're saying stuff?
Speaker 3 (20:17):
And then you got to go say no, no, no, that's
his opinion, that's not mine. And when it keeps happening repeatedly,
it ends up falling on the player. You're doing more
damage to the player when you openly criticize, regularly, routinely.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
Look, I get it.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
We can all have a frustrated moment. We now have
the ability to get our thoughts out there that you
have just yell at a TV or yell at your dog,
or yell at your sibly your spouse with somebody. Now
you can get on the phone and go on Instagram.
You can go at the trolls, you can go back
at them. And I think sometimes we forget that ends
up being detrimental to your whoever the person is in
your life, in this case his son. Because now I
(20:50):
gotta feel questions, Rob, Now I gotta look at you know,
wonderfu my teammates looking at me differently. Now I gotta
go back and forth all day. And to me, it's
just there's no gain from there's no win from it.
It's gonna hurt you, it's gonna make you look bad,
and it's gonna potentially hurt your son or your daughter
of whoever the athlete is, and there's no upside. So
I just I know it's difficult because we have the
(21:11):
technology to respond to people just because you can doesn't
mean you should, as hard as it may be, because
now it all comes on him in, week in, week out,
he's gonna have to come up questions. And now we
see it with some other team Morant, John Moran's dad
getting into it with Sho Shanna Sharp. They about to
scrap they doing this. It's just too much can happen.
And there's no real game when you're doing this to me.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
I just I think it's terrible and I cannot. I
don't have kids. I couldn't imagine embarrassing my son or daughter,
you know, by by going out and speaking out, especially
when you consider the numbers that he's already put up
this year. He leads, right, rob g we talked about earlier.
(21:56):
He leads it almost yeah and almost every category. It
was a bad game or whatever, and it's coming off.
It ain't coming off. The Bears got shut out eight
to nothing and he didn't get any balls or whatever.
They actually won the game and put up forty seven points.
And that's the game, right that you're going to speak
out as a win that put them at five and
(22:19):
three and a big time comeback win.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
And then he has to answer, and I don't care.
He could say that's my dad, I have nothing to
do it or whatever. Dude, you know that people are
like he texting his.
Speaker 4 (22:32):
Dad, whinding like whining, winding like a girl, I'm not
getting the ball whatever, and his dad.
Speaker 5 (22:39):
Is just echoing no sentiments.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
Right, that's not his dad.
Speaker 4 (22:44):
That's him talking to his dad, and his dad is
the one putting it out there. And that's what it
sounds like. It's just like when Halliburton's dad ran out
on the court and did all that.
Speaker 5 (22:54):
What are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (22:56):
I gotta answer questions about it and what are you doing?
And you know what, I'm glad you brought that a Rob,
because you know what it forces to what nobody wants
to do.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
Halliburton had to go against his dad publicly.
Speaker 3 (23:08):
But like, now I gotta separate myself from you because
you did something that was not smart. Now if you're
if you're the dude's ay, Now I gotta ask my pops.
Speaker 5 (23:17):
He does what he do?
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I do what I do that. I don't want to
do that, but when you do these things, I have to.
I have to and watch this Rob. He's a he's
a he's a young quarter he's mephrase that young receiver,
first year Caleb Williams, first year really under Ben Johnson
new system.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
What are you gonna do?
Speaker 3 (23:36):
This isn't year eight where you could be like, look,
I'm tired of it being seven eight years and that's badness.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
This is a handful of games into the first year,
the first year altogether coordinator.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Cou got the most receptions.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
Yeah, like, give, I could completely understand if this has
been three to four years of ineptitude, if he was
playing with the Panthers, playing with the Raiders, it looks horrible.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
I get that. At that point, you're blowing a gasket.
I've had enough.
Speaker 3 (23:59):
This is there, they're they're five and three. He's leading
team in receptions. He looks good.
Speaker 5 (24:04):
Anybody who has eyeball see that. He looks really good.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
And it's a connection. Though doesn't feel like he has
a connection with Caleb.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And I know he wants more, without a doubt he's
he's a guy who might wants more.
Speaker 5 (24:15):
We get that.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
But if this is what we're doing week eight nine, rob,
what are we gonna do week? Like I said, year
two or three, If it's not going the way he wants,
you get what I mean, it's week eight.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
You guys are five and three right there in the division.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I don't get it.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
I mean, I'm asking you, Rob G, I'm asking you Kelvin.
As fathers you have, you don't try to Are you
really trying to go out and embarrass your kids? Seriously?
I just feel like I wouldn't want to do that,
and I always I know that my parents were always
conscious of that, like you know what I mean, like
like not wanting to embarrass the kids.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
I think the thing for me, Rob if he were
being defit, Let's say he had a horrible injury, and
then everybody's all he weak. He don't want to I
get that, right. This is just off of a game
you won. This is just getting more targets. In your mind,
that's not worth putting him out there. If you just
lost it because you were defending your son who got
his knee shredded and you you know what I mean,
and there are week get back out there. I can
(25:13):
understand that because you're coming to his honor. That's different
than berating the team and the targets and Caleb and
real offense. That's that's not necessary standing up for your
son who maybe again, Let's say he stood up for
something like Colin Kaepernick type of thing, and you were like, no,
he's trying to do it for the betterment of people.
Speaker 5 (25:30):
Standing up for that. I get the idea that you're
berating a team that's five and three. He's the leading receiver.
They're trying to find their way.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's the first year with the new coach, in the
new system, first year together with Caleb Week eight or nine.
Speaker 5 (25:42):
What are we doing here? Pops?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
In the social media era, especially, you should only be
a cheerleader. You better not say a damn thing that's
critical of your quarterback, of a teammate, of the coaching
in any way, shape or critical of the city that
you're playing in.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
It just doesn't make because.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
There's no win.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, there's no win there.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Like asking Al Horford's sister how was it to for
to talk crap about the city of Boston, and everything
she said was accurate, by the way, but all it
led to you was, Hey, Al, your sister was on
social media yesterday saying there's a lot of racism in
the city of Boston.
Speaker 2 (26:16):
Cared weigh in on it.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Right, if he comes out and says what he honestly
feels he's aliening alf the fan base, right, And it's
just like, there's no win in you going out of
your way to be critical of things you have no
control over.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
And especially in this situation where you're coming off of
a big victory, right, a last second victory where you
weren't supposed to win that game, and the talk should
be about that. Being five and three in the division,
you're in the hunt. My god, they're alive. Like really,
(26:51):
it's like the right, It's like the Marvin Harrison right,
with the same kind of thing, like, uh, well, I
ain't saying this, but yeah, yes you are. You went
to ESPN dot com and you had these quotes about
the offense and this, and that he didn't mention that
his son dropped up some of the easiest touchdowns ever
(27:11):
and on.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
So many other bad plays.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Also, Pops, you play with Peyton Manning.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
I mean, come on, Pops, I know you want the best,
but Pops, you played with Peyton, Reggie, Wayne Stokely, Edrin James,
y'all had a lot going on over.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
There was going back to Rome.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Is there a way that his dad could have conveyed
that message, Yes, without making.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
What you said problem, this is what you say. I
look at this team and I know how talented Ben
Johnson is as a play caller. We know Caleb as
a Heisman winner, and my son is a beast. I
definitely expect more, you know more, whether if he wanted
to say, a better offense, you know, more continuity, you know,
like you can.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
That's a really lating tweet tweet for no.
Speaker 5 (27:52):
He pays for the one. He paid for, the one
where you give it, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Could he have just said something like, man, just wait
till they get Rome fully integrated as well.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
I'm moving forward there way.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
To the continent. This is only year one way two
years old.
Speaker 4 (28:04):
Maybe what a win when you think about it that
they scored forty seven points and Rome wasn't even involved,
Like like that told you what?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
That's even scary, right that could be you know what
I'm saying, like something like that.
Speaker 5 (28:17):
That was a great one. Rob, that's a great one.
Speaker 2 (28:19):
Had no trade him somewhere else? He needs that targets
a game.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
And I'm like, Pops, this is eight game nine dude.
We got a whole new system. I'm a rookie.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
We got a nine game love.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
We haven't had a winning record that's laying to the
season in twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I'm just yeah, I think what's the last point for me.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
One of the things that's blown me away about social media,
I think y'all will feel me on this was our
concern about young people.
Speaker 5 (28:51):
Ultimately, what I've been.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Blown away the last decade is forty to fifty and
sixty year olds on social media who make a full
of themselves regularly.
Speaker 5 (28:58):
That has been the number one take away from me.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Not the kids. Kids actually like you guys are dweeds.
We're going over there, kids make fun of us. It's
the adults, super big adults that do crazy, wild in
anything on social media.
Speaker 5 (29:12):
That has been more shocking than anyth
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