November 12, 2025 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why they have a problem with AJ Brown’s consistent bellyaching about the Philadelphia Eagles offense, debate whether the NBA All-Star Game is even salvageable at this point, and take Bleacher Report to task for allowing a freelance writer to post a blasphemous column about Lamar Jackson.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
So AJ Brown last night overnight decided to go on
a Twitch stream with the guy playing Madden and let
it be known he's not real happy with the way
things going.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
To fill it out, you take a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Everything me good though, Like you know what I'm saying,
everything the straight, you know what I'm saying, mental good,
kids good, I'm saying quite good.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Everything no, no, no, yeah, wherever you be, Like I
still got check up. You know what I'm saying, Like
you know, like me.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything else no, man, everything
gonna click trust.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Them, Yeah, struggling things are a blank show. Can't say
he ain't honest.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, And he said he's struggling out there, so of
course his coach was dashed about it. Earlier today, Nick
Sirianni didn't say it's not a distraction. But aj Brown,
credit to him, met with the media about an hour
ago and elaborated on his frustrations.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
I was don't want to win too, you know, And
I think if we're we're really focusing on winning and
doing our job, like, we can't just keep slapping the
band aid over the defense doing their job and getting
us out of trouble. At what point we're gonna pick
up box slag as an offense that we're saying we're
so great, you know?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
And that's what I'm getting it.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
It's not about we're not winning or I don't care
about winning all I care about his steps.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
No, it's week got the week.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Sometimes we're not contributing, we're not doing our job on offense.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So you can't just keep slapping the band aid over there.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
And if you strike the win later late in the
year and you think you're gonna go to it at
the end of the year, it's.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Not gonna hap.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
It's not gonna happen. You're gonna last year what it was.
Thank you for the ring, But it's a new season.
They adapted. We have to adapt and we have to
continue to like get better and try to find new
way So that's that's where the frustration comes in.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Because he's full of crap.
Speaker 8 (02:23):
Aj Brown And if I was the Eagles and I
can move on from him, I would. He's a distraction,
Sirianni could be as nice as he wants.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Oh, it's not a distraction.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
It's about winning. You're winning, and guess what, the same way,
you give credit to the defense and how well they're playing.
Give the Green Bay Packers some credit as well on
their defense. Maybe they played great and you did just
enough to win. You ever think about that. You're not
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gonna score thirty five points every game. This is about you.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Because there were games.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Where he got numbers and still wasn't happy. He wasn't
happy the next week, right because he got to be
He had a big week, and the next week he
only got three or four targets or whatever it was,
and he was bellyaching.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Come on, dude, what are you doing.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
You have a chance to do something special. Win another one,
back to back win and move on. Yes, we know
that there's more firepower and more stuff there. When the
running game got shut down in the Super Bowl, guess
what happened. Jalen Hurts was able to throw the ball
around and they rolled. They steam rolled the Kansas City Chiefs.
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It is there. Sometimes you gotta win and move on.
It was a struggle. Those things happen. Kelvin, come on, man,
stop making it where you have to con you coming
off a big winn in Green Bay and you're worried
about you and your stats. Come on, I can't take it.
I wouldn't want that guy on my team.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, I mean there, honestly, Rob, a lot of people
echoed the saint sentiments and me and You've been talking
about it essentially now, not even just this year. We
talked about it last year. Remember these were conversations they
were having last year. Then they kind of tried to
quiet the storm. He and Jayden Hurts had a little
weird thing going on and they say, no, we're good.
Jayalen Hurts like, yeah, we're good. You can tell like
something ain't good. Nick Herrianni had to get in the
middle of it. Then he busts out the book and
all that. So we talked about it last year, talked
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about it earlier this year. Then they had a chance
before the trade deadline. What we're gonna do? People were wondering,
and they put it out there. We're not trade AJ.
We're not tradeing AJ. We're not trading AJ. And they
didn't and here we are. Now here's the thing, Rob's
I'll tell both of y'all what he just said that
that last spill. I actually wish that was the first
thing he said, because to me, that wasn't the weird
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cryptic tweets, the weird cryptic post on Instagram, the weird
walking out and not doing interviews, the weird book.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I like what he said there because what have we heard?
Have You've been? Keep paying attention to the.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
NFL last few weeks, a lot of times to Cleveland,
not the Cleveland Browns, the Cincinnati Bengals, trying not to
blame their defense because they're saying we're a team, we're
a unit.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yes, the offense is rolling right now, the defense there
are times where one side of the ball's gonna be
playing a better than others. And I like him saying,
we want to help out, we want to compete the
Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Offense easy, twenty thirty forty points easily. Defense wasn't great
in early.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
But the only problem with that, and I get it,
but it's only when he doesn't have numbers that so
it's not it's about I'm not getting any numb So
where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
With this though, is if he said that initially, right,
if someone said, hey, offense hasn't been going only this
amount of points, dismounty points, what's going on? And he
said that, I would have been all right, Yo, we
gotta get this thing rolling. You know, our defense we've
been lying on it is not fair to that unit
side of the ball. I would be all right with that.
It's that it's combined with that cryptic tweets weird message here,
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not speaking there, point fingers there, and it just continues
to be exhausting. And my thing is this, rob what
if they lose him when they need him most? And
I was talking to Rob gi or it's not about
a reception per se. What if they lose him right
when they needed him to do it? Sometimes, if you
know the game, I need you to run full steam
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so that the defense thinks you actually running a route
as we're about to give this ball to Saquon.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
What if he have you know, what's it?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What if we're running with Saquon here, We're gonna do
a quarterback sneak and he doesn't block, you know what
I mean, those things that are not necessarily on the
stat sheet, and you lose him in the regard of
those types of things. That's detrimental to the team. We
needed you to run a round, we needed you to block,
we need you to run a pick route, all those
kind of things. We need you to be locked in
the film room and you're checked out and you're talking
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smack on the middle of twitch and streams. So I
think that's what makes it disappointing is because now we
keep saying, Sirianni Jalen hurts, DeVante Smith, all these guys
gotta answer questions and they are trying to figure out
the offense, and the last thing we need to do
is keep having to answer questions as well. So I
just think they missed an opportunity to maybe sell high
(06:57):
while we all know he's still talented and see what
they can get do They have an offensive struggles, absolutely,
but this can't be the way to go about it
where routinely you're gonna have to justify your team to
the media every single week. Every single week has to
be exhaustive for the team. The offensive line guys who
don't get the mic and camera times.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
It's just a distraction, whether they want to say it
or not.
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Speaker 3 (08:03):
So the NBA announced it what they're calling long awaited
plans to overhaul.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
The All Start. Let me tell you what we wasn't
waiting for.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So what they're gonna do again Us versus the World
new format, which will feature three eight man rosters, two
of which will be only American players. The third will
be international players, and they're gonna change the way players
are selected. It's because only three teams are gonna be
like a weird round robin type of scenario. But long
(08:31):
story short, USA versus the World, three eight man teams,
new all star format.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
All right, the long awaited is the long Let me
tell you how wrong they are. What nobody waiting on this.
Nobody had time for this, nobody asked for this, And
I think they're miscalculating the conversations that we've had on
this show. Other people are having on all their sports shows.
All we want is for the players to compete. That's it.
(09:03):
All we want East versus West. I'm not crazy in this.
This is what most people want. This is the format
we wanted. We didn't ask for the change back.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
In the day.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Just compete, Just play hard, just make it matter. Nobody's
acting like it's Game seven of the NBA Finals. Nobody's
acting like it matters. In that same regard, however, you
do have fans that ultimately watch that gets you the
TV contracts. That's billions of dollars, that pays you millions
of dollars. So we're asking just for one night, not
(09:31):
even forty eight minutes for twenty four to forty eight minutes?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Can you compete? Can you care? Can you turn it
up a notch?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And the idea that now they gotta go to this
four men and an eight man team and the eight
man and that eight man team is gonna play that
eight man team. There's only two ways this could work
East first West lock in play. Or if because the
conversation now that we do have is of the World Games, right,
because last six to seven MVPs have been from other
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countries outside of the UNITEDS, then maybe I could see
World versus the twelve man World, twelve man the United States.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Let's compete, let's ball.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Those were the only two options that I think people
will say, all right, I'll look into that this ape
man here, eight man there that plays that ape man
the world, this in America, that they're doing too much.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Simply have the guys compete.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And then I heard somebody talking about earlier say yeah,
I mean, you know, sweeten up. I didn't have to
sweeten up the pot back in the day, in the
seventies and eighties and nineties and early two thousands, they
just competed and wanted to win because Hey, I know
people pay their tickets, people come see us now to
mention it. I just want to show y'all, I'm that guy,
me and this you know this West Coast, we the guys.
What'stern conference or no Eastern, We're the conference. Just compete.
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And last point to me is also the only hope
that I reserve is I think some of the young
stars winby being the top of the class now, will
actually want to compete, will want to play hard. Don't
We'll feel actually awkward not competing. We'll feel awkward being
out there just collecting a check or just being out
there for show yawning. And I think there's a handful
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of young stars him being the leader of it cade.
I think Aunt has learned now and some of these
younger players who are gonna compete and make us go
are There's hope mixed in with obviously some of the
older events, and that gives me hope. But again the
NBA keeps reaching with simply there's very few things in life,
rob where the answer sitting right in your face, and
this is one of those, and they keep ignoring it
and looking elsewhere.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
I think the problem with your thought process is that
ship sailed. There's just no way you could wheel it back.
They're not gonna play hard.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They're not. I don't agree they're not. I could be
naive and I will own that. Okay, I don't agree.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
I just you going in. They sent in Doctor J
and Larry Bird. That was before that they got to
the game where it went over to two hundred points.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That was that game.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
They went in before and talked about playing with pride,
giving people a good show. Remember that, they said, Doctor
J and Larry Bird in so we have a Kobe video. Okay, God,
bless the dead. Did Kobe make a video before you?
We need something like that, Doctor jenm. Kids don't know
Doctor J unfortunately. But but my point is it didn't help.
They still went out, they refused to play. They're not
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going to You saw it was there no fouls called
in the All Star game. I mean because they were
there was no There was like no fouls like, no
one is going to defend. No one wants to defend,
No one wants to be out there, no one wants
to play. I'm telling you, Adam Silver, you should have
canceled the game. You should have canceled the game. It'll
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be another embarrassing night for the NBA. We saw before
the terrible ratings. The games have been an embarrassment. Nobody
wants to watch two hundred and ten over the to
ten the two old times exactly like. Nobody wants to
see those games. And that's the problem. That's the problem.
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It's terrible, it's a bore. It's awful sometimes, Like even
the NFL give them credit, right, Oh, put the Pro
Bowl on. People want football in on one. They even
canceled theirs. They just got it, dude, nobody wants Fans
who love football don't even want to see this.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Kids a live I'm not listening to you. I hear you.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
This is one a few times it'll do something right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I don't think you're all the way wrong or crazy,
but I'm Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
In this case.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
People live alive, rob keep hope alive that they get
these young players and go realize that we're the fans.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Want you to hoop.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Stop hoping better at Lifetime Fitness in twenty four hour Fitness,
and and and La Fitness, a pick of fitness, show
us some fitness on his court. I believe they still
got it. I'm keeping hope alive that with me. Get
some other young players and you'll still get the best
of stuff. You're still I'm not gonna say, Lebron, You'll
get Luca and you'll get somebody the other and gy'
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honest and Yokert, Joker and Jokic and they'll come out
there and they'll ball and that could bet it will
get it back and they'll be revitalized.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It will start to get an All Star Game again.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Deaggett.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Keep hope alive. Sorry, keep hope alive.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I'm seven k I'll say, but you don't want to
say it because you gonna be billed as a hater.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
This is all Lebron James fault. Right, Ron? Is that
what I said? Lebrons, call you even shot? I wanted
to say it. I'll say it for you. Is this
what I said?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The NBA All Star Game became terrible once Lebron was
the unquestioned leader of the league. And when he decided
I ain't playing hard, everybody else said they ain't playing hard,
just like in the bubble when they all wanted to
go home and Lebron's like, nah.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
We're playing. Everybody played.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So now that he's phasing out, we got the next
wave of stars, whether it's an Man or wen Beard.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Not John Moran obviously, but you know.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
SGA and they decide they're gonna play hard, you're gonna
see that flip a game real quick.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I just I feel like you just want to get
a shot at Lebron on that. Hey, that's a good shot. Thought,
that's a good shout, I said me saying it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I feel like nineteen to twenty of his twenty four years,
we ain't had to worry about Lebron's go compete all that. Baby,
I don't know what he doing now. Remember when was
the last year he just I might playing, might player,
might player my play? Oh, I ain't playing. That could
have been somebody else the spot which which was wrong?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
That was wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But he knew he wasn't playing, Like he could have
picked somebody up one hundred. That could have been some
kids dreamed, but they might not ever get that shot again.
By the way, I'll start guarante everybody ain't Stephen Giannis
and Katie Andbrino we get ten twelve, fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That might have been somebody's one shot.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And you were like, I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm paying,
I'm plying I think I'm playing thing'na play nine playing.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
I just don't think that they I just don't think
they care. I really don't. And you would say even
in the NFL they used to play a Pro Bowl game.
There used to be a game, did it? And then
I understand that, like in football, makes total sense better
and all that. Okay, chante, all the scores not a
it's not a softball game. The guy's pitch, they strike
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people out. They don't throw the ball soft Oh let's see,
I'm just lobb it to Aaron Judge. Let me see
how far he can hit it? Like, that's not what
guys do. They want to compete, do you.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And what?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But you know you to cover this week since nineteen
twenty six, nineteen eighty bad my baddy. So I'm sorry,
And you know you watched it. You set it, Rob,
you set it. You saw these guys compete. It was fun.
It was a much to do you go there? Weekend
was great dunk contests a great three point they.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Agree, But I'm saying that it's been so long that
it's not going to reverse that even with those guys
you're talking about, Rob g the young guns.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I just don't. I don't see you see that guy
who just made that play down there?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, Wemby, there's my whole to Robb's well, to Rob's point,
through you, he'll be playing He'll be playing hard by hisself.
He might to Rob G's point via Rob Parker, if
he's gonna be the leader, like you know, I'm out
here about what's the guy's name, Rob Parker? Via you, Oh,
the guy that everyone knows hit it.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
We one knows it's whimsy. That guy nagg it. Keep
up Alive Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Keep eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three six.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Keep come on, Rob, keep live right, keep it alive.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Rock.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
I'm gonna say this real quick, Jesse Jackson on Saturday
Night Live.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
One of the funniest things. I thought it was great
tight pants. That's what I'm not That was not you.
He's been on the show. I don't give anything. That
was Robert Trump, but I don't care.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
But he Jesse Jackson was talking about the way he
was covered when he was running for president, backing and
he said, you know, uh, he's on a boat.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
The pope is on the boat.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Right, and the press is in another boat, and the
pope's cap falls off into the water. So Jesse gets
out of his boat, walks across the water, picks.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Up the pope's cap and puts it back on his head.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
And then what gets back into his boat?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
He said.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
The next day, the headlines were Jesse can't swim.
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Speaker 3 (18:18):
On Tuesday, a Bleacher Report columnist will call him release
the list of what he believes is the top five
most overrated quarterbacks, which is not new everybody and stuff
like this, right, here's his five in order, Number five,
Trevor Lawrence, number four, Dak Prescott, number three, Justin Herbert,
number two, Jordan Love and number one Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
You know what's funny on that list, only one guy
has won an MVP or multiple MVP. It's interesting you
bring that up. Ron think about that because the columnists,
I'm not evenna say his name.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
We don't give him the pub No, don't give him
the pulp.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Please explained why he has Lamar Jackson as number one,
is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL. In his explanation,
he mentions, of course, the playoff history, which is fair,
but he adds this statement the Baltimore Raven star has
been a four time Pro bowler, a three time All
Pro for his inflated regular season marks, but his two
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time MVP status is borderline fraudulent. His credentials simply don't
measure up to the other legends who have won the
award on numerous occasions.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You know what makes me mad about this, and we
debated this that we're talking about it because.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's like when you go on Instagram or Twitter or whatever,
your side of choice, app of choice, and then they'll
say something crazy like Michael Jackson was overrated, right right right,
and you're like, because it makes you men want to
defend Michael Jackson, er Michael Jordan. I ain't saying he
was a plumber, but he was mean or something like that.
It makes you want to jump in and defend the
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person and rage bait and get you going. So I'm
not going to really go that because we know this
is asinine. Outrages Lamar Jackson is incredible. You and I
sit up here and talk about the stats. Some of
the best QBR not this season, not lasted like ever.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Some of the.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Best is winning percentage, Okay, is seven thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That's not a fake stat.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That's not if he hasn't played two years where it's like,
all right, only mad it come this, like, bro, seven
years ish, that's a whole lot of winning.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Why we're mad at his stats in the playoffs because
he's that great that we're like we will you know,
you expecting the way more.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
But also, and you can be mad at or whatever,
it's not a postseason award.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
It's a regular season award, regular season MVP, that's what
it is.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
You could be mad that he hadn't won a super
Bowl yet, or he hadn't performed at that kind of
level yet, or whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I say it all the time.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
John Elway didn't win until his last two years in
the NFL, though he won his two Super Bowls at
the very end. I'm not saying that'scal be the case here.
I'm just saying that's not the reason that you can
discount though, because what we have said about Johnnway, he
went to Super Bowls and lost.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
He's the loser, could win the big one had he
not won, had he not won those two at.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
The end, and on the flip side, we have people
who will will uh praise Damn marinal till the sun
comes home. And he went to Super Bowl second year,
never went back again. You know Rob Woodson who he
used to be on the show. Yeah, what says he's
the greatest and he never won anything. And as that's
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not a crazy thought. I mean, you're throwing the football.
A lot of people feel he's up there, but but
it's different criteria for different people. The reason people get
on Aaron Rodgers because he only won one because of
the time. But Damn Marino didn't win any you see
what I'm saying. And they can say, oh, well he's
the greatest. And then you look at Tom Brady. Ye,
tom Brady might be the most accomplished. But if you
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talk to most football players and talk about skill, arm strength, accuracy,
tom Brady doesn't ranking those. That's why he didn't he does.
He have three rob g three MVPs. You would think
he'd have nine or ten, but he doesn't. Same thing,
is it two or three?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Well, look it might be.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It might be three, but I'm to your point, playing
twenty years, it might be, I think, but to playing
that many years, Yeah, he played this three yeah, three
MVPs in twenty twenty four years. How many years did
he play with seven Super Bowls titles? It's crazy. But
here's the thing. So, so with that being said, I
think what makes it more interesting is that this is
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something that like where we've become as a society where
once reputable publications, but most.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Reputable ones are not on this. Here's what's back, Well,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
There's a news outlet out here in LA that has
been known what's the name of it. I'll say it
ABC seven specifically. They're there their social stuff. They were,
you know, ABC seven is a little bit more of the
high a little bit more kind of straightforward news, and
you can tell on their socials that they were just like,
you know what, what's got folks? What gets folks riled
(23:10):
up one.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Way or the other.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And they'll post something you'll see and it'll be like,
oh my gosh, and it'll be the most rant it'll
be in Kansas. It I had nothing to do with
LA And this is ABC here locally and I have
nothing to do with anything. And you can tell it's
because it'll get people going right, and it'll be something
that might be stereotypical, like that's gonna rate, they're gonna
beat you. See, that's what you do when you let
(23:32):
those people or that's what you do are all such
and that's the usual suspects. You get a lot of
that because them clicks go crazy, the comments go crazy,
the engagement go crazy, as opposed to saying here in La,
you know a fireman put out the fuck oh whatever,
like but if they go find some crazy wild story
in Florida, some crazy wild story in Alabama, that's just
where can I give you?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Like like whoever the editor was who read this piece
or whatever could have said something like well. Across the
first one hundred starts of his career, Lamar Jackson has
led the highest scoring offense ever two eight hundred eighty
three points and owns the third most wins seventy three.
(24:13):
Like none of it. As I say to my students
all the time and talking about this, anybody can have
an opinion, but based on what you have, it has
to be based on something in order for you to
make that case. And it just there's no case for
there's no overrated who would and then he has other
like it just doesn't even make any sense.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And that's what I mean, Rob, what I'm saying blown
away that that would even make a game. But we're
in the era where people feel pressure to have engagement. Right,
you can't just stand on quality. I can't just stand
on equality if people aren't engaged to saying, well, dangan,
it was quality.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, well you are making it up.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know, you only got twenty thousand impressions this thing
over here from some random blogger. Dude got two hundred
and eighty five thousand impressions. Eighty but we need advertisements.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, but that's just that's where we are. Bob, g
what you got? I got a question?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And Rob, let me finish the question because I don't
want it to sound negative. I'm not trying to be negative.
But there are certain topics that people think, well, Rob
is just saying something crazy. Rob's trying to get engagement whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Right, But what.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Rob Parker does have and we talk on there off
there about this A thousand years of experience at some
of the biggest publications across the country, television, radio, print, everything,
his name is in big Marquee letters. You know exactly
who he is, you know exactly how he feels about
this topic. The person who wrote this in Bleacher Report
does not even have a Twitter account. The person who
(25:44):
wrote this in Bleacher is a free lancer who has
a half done LinkedIn page and a muck rack account.
I mean, does Bleacher Report the fact that they did
not have whoever your favorite column and whatever Jeremy ESPN
Right if Jeremy Fowler says this, even if you've disagree
(26:05):
with the take, there's some credibility because like, hey, he's
covered the NFL for a long time. I disagree with
but something that he's saying that I can latch onto.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
But in the case of that, he would even his
editor would make to say, what's to say? You gotta
give me you know what I mean, It ain't It
ain't enough just to say that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You'd have to really make a case like it's almost
court your honor. I believe this because this is the boom.
The evidence shows Da da Dad Now and again we
all to your point. You're you can fudge numbers, right,
because you could I'm making it up. You could find
some number that Lamar Jackson and crunch time, third, fourth,
third and fourth quarters is only da da da da da. Okay,
(26:46):
at least you found something that we can now have
a debate over right. You found some numbers that I
can say, all right, But but to just be like
he's overrated to not a single human being thinks that,
especially when we're talking just strictly about the accomplishments of
the whole career and the conversations with just pis of fraud.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's just postseason, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Maybe you can disagree with an agree, but the idea
that his career that's far. He's had an incredible career.
It's actually laughable how good he has been. Like you
and I sit up here and talking about it doesn't
even look real. It's like a video game. He'll have
like two hundred and sixty yards passing, three touchdowns, rushing
touchdown and eighty nine yards passes. You say it all
the time. It makes it look easy. It looks like
(27:26):
it's embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
Like he's like like he's like he's playing ball in
the backyard.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It just looks so easy for him, and that guy
cannot be completed.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Overrated that is that that doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
So AJ Brown last night overnight decided to go on
a Twitch stream with the guy playing Madden and let
it be known he's not real happy with the way
things going.
Speaker 4 (00:36):
To fill it out, you take a listen.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
Everything me good though, Like you know what I'm saying,
everything the straight, you know what I'm saying, mental good,
kids good, I'm saying quite good.
Speaker 5 (00:42):
Everything no, no, no, yeah, wherever you be, Like I
still got check up. You know what I'm saying, Like
you know, like me.
Speaker 6 (00:56):
Good, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything else no, man, everything
gonna click trust.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Them, Yeah, struggling things are a blank show. Can't say
he ain't honest.
Speaker 3 (01:20):
Yeah, And he said he's struggling out there, so of
course his coach was dashed about it. Earlier today, Nick
Sirianni didn't say it's not a distraction. But aj Brown,
credit to him, met with the media about an hour
ago and elaborated on his frustrations.
Speaker 7 (01:35):
I was don't want to win too, you know, And
I think if we're we're really focusing on winning and
doing our job, like, we can't just keep slapping the
band aid over the defense doing their job and getting
us out of trouble. At what point we're gonna pick
up box slag as an offense that we're saying we're
so great, you know?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
And that's what I'm getting it.
Speaker 7 (01:55):
It's not about we're not winning or I don't care
about winning all I care about his steps.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
No, it's week got the week.
Speaker 7 (02:01):
Sometimes we're not contributing, we're not doing our job on offense.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So you can't just keep slapping the band aid over there.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
And if you strike the win later late in the
year and you think you're gonna go to it at
the end of the year, it's.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Not gonna hap.
Speaker 7 (02:09):
It's not gonna happen. You're gonna last year what it was.
Thank you for the ring, But it's a new season.
They adapted. We have to adapt and we have to
continue to like get better and try to find new
way So that's that's where the frustration comes in.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Because he's full of crap.
Speaker 8 (02:23):
Aj Brown And if I was the Eagles and I
can move on from him, I would. He's a distraction,
Sirianni could be as nice as he wants.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Oh, it's not a distraction.
Speaker 8 (02:33):
It's about winning. You're winning, and guess what, the same way,
you give credit to the defense and how well they're playing.
Give the Green Bay Packers some credit as well on
their defense. Maybe they played great and you did just
enough to win. You ever think about that. You're not
(02:55):
gonna score thirty five points every game. This is about you.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Because there were games.
Speaker 8 (03:00):
Where he got numbers and still wasn't happy. He wasn't
happy the next week, right because he got to be
He had a big week, and the next week he
only got three or four targets or whatever it was,
and he was bellyaching.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Come on, dude, what are you doing.
Speaker 8 (03:16):
You have a chance to do something special. Win another one,
back to back win and move on. Yes, we know
that there's more firepower and more stuff there. When the
running game got shut down in the Super Bowl, guess
what happened. Jalen Hurts was able to throw the ball
around and they rolled. They steam rolled the Kansas City Chiefs.
(03:39):
It is there. Sometimes you gotta win and move on.
It was a struggle. Those things happen. Kelvin, come on, man,
stop making it where you have to con you coming
off a big winn in Green Bay and you're worried
about you and your stats. Come on, I can't take it.
I wouldn't want that guy on my team.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Well, I mean there, honestly, Rob, a lot of people
echoed the saint sentiments and me and You've been talking
about it essentially now, not even just this year. We
talked about it last year. Remember these were conversations they
were having last year. Then they kind of tried to
quiet the storm. He and Jayden Hurts had a little
weird thing going on and they say, no, we're good.
Jayalen Hurts like, yeah, we're good. You can tell like
something ain't good. Nick Herrianni had to get in the
middle of it. Then he busts out the book and
all that. So we talked about it last year, talked
(04:22):
about it earlier this year. Then they had a chance
before the trade deadline. What we're gonna do? People were wondering,
and they put it out there. We're not trade AJ.
We're not tradeing AJ. We're not trading AJ. And they
didn't and here we are. Now here's the thing, Rob's
I'll tell both of y'all what he just said that
that last spill. I actually wish that was the first
thing he said, because to me, that wasn't the weird
(04:45):
cryptic tweets, the weird cryptic post on Instagram, the weird
walking out and not doing interviews, the weird book.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
I like what he said there because what have we heard?
Have You've been? Keep paying attention to the.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
NFL last few weeks, a lot of times to Cleveland,
not the Cleveland Browns, the Cincinnati Bengals, trying not to
blame their defense because they're saying we're a team, we're
a unit.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Yes, the offense is rolling right now, the defense there
are times where one side of the ball's gonna be
playing a better than others. And I like him saying,
we want to help out, we want to compete the
Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Right.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
Offense easy, twenty thirty forty points easily. Defense wasn't great
in early.
Speaker 8 (05:18):
But the only problem with that, and I get it,
but it's only when he doesn't have numbers that so
it's not it's about I'm not getting any numb So
where I'm going.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
With this though, is if he said that initially, right,
if someone said, hey, offense hasn't been going only this
amount of points, dismounty points, what's going on? And he
said that, I would have been all right, Yo, we
gotta get this thing rolling. You know, our defense we've
been lying on it is not fair to that unit
side of the ball. I would be all right with that.
It's that it's combined with that cryptic tweets weird message here,
(05:49):
not speaking there, point fingers there, and it just continues
to be exhausting. And my thing is this, rob what
if they lose him when they need him most? And
I was talking to Rob gi or it's not about
a reception per se. What if they lose him right
when they needed him to do it? Sometimes, if you
know the game, I need you to run full steam
(06:09):
so that the defense thinks you actually running a route
as we're about to give this ball to Saquon.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
What if he have you know, what's it?
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What if we're running with Saquon here, We're gonna do
a quarterback sneak and he doesn't block, you know what
I mean, those things that are not necessarily on the
stat sheet, and you lose him in the regard of
those types of things. That's detrimental to the team. We
needed you to run a round, we needed you to block,
we need you to run a pick route, all those
kind of things. We need you to be locked in
the film room and you're checked out and you're talking
(06:37):
smack on the middle of twitch and streams. So I
think that's what makes it disappointing is because now we
keep saying, Sirianni Jalen hurts, DeVante Smith, all these guys
gotta answer questions and they are trying to figure out
the offense, and the last thing we need to do
is keep having to answer questions as well. So I
just think they missed an opportunity to maybe sell high
(06:57):
while we all know he's still talented and see what
they can get do They have an offensive struggles, absolutely,
but this can't be the way to go about it
where routinely you're gonna have to justify your team to
the media every single week. Every single week has to
be exhaustive for the team. The offensive line guys who
don't get the mic and camera times.
Speaker 7 (07:17):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 8 (07:18):
It's just a distraction, whether they want to say it
or not.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
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Speaker 3 (08:03):
So the NBA announced it what they're calling long awaited
plans to overhaul.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
The All Start. Let me tell you what we wasn't
waiting for.
Speaker 3 (08:11):
So what they're gonna do again Us versus the World
new format, which will feature three eight man rosters, two
of which will be only American players. The third will
be international players, and they're gonna change the way players
are selected. It's because only three teams are gonna be
like a weird round robin type of scenario. But long
(08:31):
story short, USA versus the World, three eight man teams,
new all star format.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
All right, the long awaited is the long Let me
tell you how wrong they are. What nobody waiting on this.
Nobody had time for this, nobody asked for this, And
I think they're miscalculating the conversations that we've had on
this show. Other people are having on all their sports shows.
All we want is for the players to compete. That's it.
(09:03):
All we want East versus West. I'm not crazy in this.
This is what most people want. This is the format
we wanted. We didn't ask for the change back.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
In the day.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Just compete, Just play hard, just make it matter. Nobody's
acting like it's Game seven of the NBA Finals. Nobody's
acting like it matters. In that same regard, however, you
do have fans that ultimately watch that gets you the
TV contracts. That's billions of dollars, that pays you millions
of dollars. So we're asking just for one night, not
(09:31):
even forty eight minutes for twenty four to forty eight minutes?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Can you compete? Can you care? Can you turn it
up a notch?
Speaker 1 (09:38):
And the idea that now they gotta go to this
four men and an eight man team and the eight
man and that eight man team is gonna play that
eight man team. There's only two ways this could work
East first West lock in play. Or if because the
conversation now that we do have is of the World Games, right,
because last six to seven MVPs have been from other
(09:58):
countries outside of the UNITEDS, then maybe I could see
World versus the twelve man World, twelve man the United States.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Let's compete, let's ball.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Those were the only two options that I think people
will say, all right, I'll look into that this ape
man here, eight man there that plays that ape man
the world, this in America, that they're doing too much.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Simply have the guys compete.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
And then I heard somebody talking about earlier say yeah,
I mean, you know, sweeten up. I didn't have to
sweeten up the pot back in the day, in the
seventies and eighties and nineties and early two thousands, they
just competed and wanted to win because Hey, I know
people pay their tickets, people come see us now to
mention it. I just want to show y'all, I'm that guy,
me and this you know this West Coast, we the guys.
What'stern conference or no Eastern, We're the conference. Just compete.
(10:42):
And last point to me is also the only hope
that I reserve is I think some of the young
stars winby being the top of the class now, will
actually want to compete, will want to play hard. Don't
We'll feel actually awkward not competing. We'll feel awkward being
out there just collecting a check or just being out
there for show yawning. And I think there's a handful
(11:04):
of young stars him being the leader of it cade.
I think Aunt has learned now and some of these
younger players who are gonna compete and make us go
are There's hope mixed in with obviously some of the
older events, and that gives me hope. But again the
NBA keeps reaching with simply there's very few things in life,
rob where the answer sitting right in your face, and
this is one of those, and they keep ignoring it
and looking elsewhere.
Speaker 8 (11:24):
I think the problem with your thought process is that
ship sailed. There's just no way you could wheel it back.
They're not gonna play hard.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
They're not. I don't agree they're not. I could be
naive and I will own that. Okay, I don't agree.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
I just you going in. They sent in Doctor J
and Larry Bird. That was before that they got to
the game where it went over to two hundred points.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
That was that game.
Speaker 8 (11:49):
They went in before and talked about playing with pride,
giving people a good show. Remember that, they said, Doctor
J and Larry Bird in so we have a Kobe video. Okay, God,
bless the dead. Did Kobe make a video before you?
We need something like that, Doctor jenm. Kids don't know
Doctor J unfortunately. But but my point is it didn't help.
They still went out, they refused to play. They're not
(12:12):
going to You saw it was there no fouls called
in the All Star game. I mean because they were
there was no There was like no fouls like, no
one is going to defend. No one wants to defend,
No one wants to be out there, no one wants
to play. I'm telling you, Adam Silver, you should have
canceled the game. You should have canceled the game. It'll
(12:36):
be another embarrassing night for the NBA. We saw before
the terrible ratings. The games have been an embarrassment. Nobody
wants to watch two hundred and ten over the to
ten the two old times exactly like. Nobody wants to
see those games. And that's the problem. That's the problem.
(12:57):
It's terrible, it's a bore. It's awful sometimes, Like even
the NFL give them credit, right, Oh, put the Pro
Bowl on. People want football in on one. They even
canceled theirs. They just got it, dude, nobody wants Fans
who love football don't even want to see this.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
Kids a live I'm not listening to you. I hear you.
Speaker 8 (13:19):
This is one a few times it'll do something right.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
I don't think you're all the way wrong or crazy,
but I'm Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 4 (13:26):
In this case.
Speaker 9 (13:28):
People live alive, rob keep hope alive that they get
these young players and go realize that we're the fans.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
Want you to hoop.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Stop hoping better at Lifetime Fitness in twenty four hour Fitness,
and and and La Fitness, a pick of fitness, show
us some fitness on his court. I believe they still
got it. I'm keeping hope alive that with me. Get
some other young players and you'll still get the best
of stuff. You're still I'm not gonna say, Lebron, You'll
get Luca and you'll get somebody the other and gy'
(14:02):
honest and Yokert, Joker and Jokic and they'll come out
there and they'll ball and that could bet it will
get it back and they'll be revitalized.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
It will start to get an All Star Game again.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Deaggett.
Speaker 4 (14:12):
Keep hope alive. Sorry, keep hope alive.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
I'm seven k I'll say, but you don't want to
say it because you gonna be billed as a hater.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
This is all Lebron James fault. Right, Ron? Is that
what I said? Lebrons, call you even shot? I wanted
to say it. I'll say it for you. Is this
what I said?
Speaker 3 (14:29):
The NBA All Star Game became terrible once Lebron was
the unquestioned leader of the league. And when he decided
I ain't playing hard, everybody else said they ain't playing hard,
just like in the bubble when they all wanted to
go home and Lebron's like, nah.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
We're playing. Everybody played.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
So now that he's phasing out, we got the next
wave of stars, whether it's an Man or wen Beard.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
Not John Moran obviously, but you know.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
SGA and they decide they're gonna play hard, you're gonna
see that flip a game real quick.
Speaker 4 (14:55):
I just I feel like you just want to get
a shot at Lebron on that. Hey, that's a good shot. Thought,
that's a good shout, I said me saying it.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I feel like nineteen to twenty of his twenty four years,
we ain't had to worry about Lebron's go compete all that. Baby,
I don't know what he doing now. Remember when was
the last year he just I might playing, might player,
might player my play? Oh, I ain't playing. That could
have been somebody else the spot which which was wrong?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
That was wrong.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
But he knew he wasn't playing, Like he could have
picked somebody up one hundred. That could have been some
kids dreamed, but they might not ever get that shot again.
By the way, I'll start guarante everybody ain't Stephen Giannis
and Katie Andbrino we get ten twelve, fifteen years.
Speaker 4 (15:29):
That might have been somebody's one shot.
Speaker 1 (15:31):
And you were like, I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm paying,
I'm plying I think I'm playing thing'na play nine playing.
Speaker 8 (15:34):
I just don't think that they I just don't think
they care. I really don't. And you would say even
in the NFL they used to play a Pro Bowl game.
There used to be a game, did it? And then
I understand that, like in football, makes total sense better
and all that. Okay, chante, all the scores not a
it's not a softball game. The guy's pitch, they strike
(15:56):
people out. They don't throw the ball soft Oh let's see,
I'm just lobb it to Aaron Judge. Let me see
how far he can hit it? Like, that's not what
guys do. They want to compete, do you.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (16:07):
And what?
Speaker 1 (16:08):
But you know you to cover this week since nineteen
twenty six, nineteen eighty bad my baddy. So I'm sorry,
And you know you watched it. You set it, Rob,
you set it. You saw these guys compete. It was fun.
It was a much to do you go there? Weekend
was great dunk contests a great three point they.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Agree, But I'm saying that it's been so long that
it's not going to reverse that even with those guys
you're talking about, Rob g the young guns.
Speaker 4 (16:35):
I just don't. I don't see you see that guy
who just made that play down there?
Speaker 1 (16:38):
Yeah, Wemby, there's my whole to Robb's well, to Rob's point,
through you, he'll be playing He'll be playing hard by hisself.
He might to Rob G's point via Rob Parker, if
he's gonna be the leader, like you know, I'm out
here about what's the guy's name, Rob Parker? Via you, Oh,
the guy that everyone knows hit it.
Speaker 4 (17:00):
We one knows it's whimsy. That guy nagg it. Keep
up Alive Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 8 (17:08):
Keep eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven
seven nine nine six sixty three six.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Keep come on, Rob, keep live right, keep it alive.
Speaker 9 (17:19):
Rock.
Speaker 8 (17:19):
I'm gonna say this real quick, Jesse Jackson on Saturday
Night Live.
Speaker 4 (17:22):
One of the funniest things. I thought it was great
tight pants. That's what I'm not That was not you.
He's been on the show. I don't give anything. That
was Robert Trump, but I don't care.
Speaker 8 (17:32):
But he Jesse Jackson was talking about the way he
was covered when he was running for president, backing and
he said, you know, uh, he's on a boat.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
The pope is on the boat.
Speaker 8 (17:42):
Right, and the press is in another boat, and the
pope's cap falls off into the water. So Jesse gets
out of his boat, walks across the water, picks.
Speaker 4 (17:55):
Up the pope's cap and puts it back on his head.
Speaker 8 (17:57):
And then what gets back into his boat?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
He said.
Speaker 8 (18:00):
The next day, the headlines were Jesse can't swim.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
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Speaker 3 (18:18):
On Tuesday, a Bleacher Report columnist will call him release
the list of what he believes is the top five
most overrated quarterbacks, which is not new everybody and stuff
like this, right, here's his five in order, Number five,
Trevor Lawrence, number four, Dak Prescott, number three, Justin Herbert,
number two, Jordan Love and number one Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (18:41):
You know what's funny on that list, only one guy
has won an MVP or multiple MVP. It's interesting you
bring that up. Ron think about that because the columnists,
I'm not evenna say his name.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
We don't give him the pub No, don't give him
the pulp.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Please explained why he has Lamar Jackson as number one,
is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL. In his explanation,
he mentions, of course, the playoff history, which is fair,
but he adds this statement the Baltimore Raven star has
been a four time Pro bowler, a three time All
Pro for his inflated regular season marks, but his two
(19:16):
time MVP status is borderline fraudulent. His credentials simply don't
measure up to the other legends who have won the
award on numerous occasions.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You know what makes me mad about this, and we
debated this that we're talking about it because.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know what it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
It's like when you go on Instagram or Twitter or whatever,
your side of choice, app of choice, and then they'll
say something crazy like Michael Jackson was overrated, right right right,
and you're like, because it makes you men want to
defend Michael Jackson, er Michael Jordan. I ain't saying he
was a plumber, but he was mean or something like that.
It makes you want to jump in and defend the
(19:55):
person and rage bait and get you going. So I'm
not going to really go that because we know this
is asinine. Outrages Lamar Jackson is incredible. You and I
sit up here and talk about the stats. Some of
the best QBR not this season, not lasted like ever.
Speaker 4 (20:09):
Some of the.
Speaker 8 (20:09):
Best is winning percentage, Okay, is seven thirty seven.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
That's not a fake stat.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
That's not if he hasn't played two years where it's like,
all right, only mad it come this, like, bro, seven
years ish, that's a whole lot of winning.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
And there's a reason.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Why we're mad at his stats in the playoffs because
he's that great that we're like we will you know,
you expecting the way more.
Speaker 8 (20:30):
But also, and you can be mad at or whatever,
it's not a postseason award.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
It's a regular season award, regular season MVP, that's what
it is.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
You could be mad that he hadn't won a super
Bowl yet, or he hadn't performed at that kind of
level yet, or whatever.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
I say it all the time.
Speaker 8 (20:52):
John Elway didn't win until his last two years in
the NFL, though he won his two Super Bowls at
the very end. I'm not saying that'scal be the case here.
I'm just saying that's not the reason that you can
discount though, because what we have said about Johnnway, he
went to Super Bowls and lost.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
He's the loser, could win the big one had he
not won, had he not won those two at.
Speaker 8 (21:13):
The end, and on the flip side, we have people
who will will uh praise Damn marinal till the sun
comes home. And he went to Super Bowl second year,
never went back again. You know Rob Woodson who he
used to be on the show. Yeah, what says he's
the greatest and he never won anything. And as that's
(21:35):
not a crazy thought. I mean, you're throwing the football.
A lot of people feel he's up there, but but
it's different criteria for different people. The reason people get
on Aaron Rodgers because he only won one because of
the time. But Damn Marino didn't win any you see
what I'm saying. And they can say, oh, well he's
the greatest. And then you look at Tom Brady. Ye,
tom Brady might be the most accomplished. But if you
(21:55):
talk to most football players and talk about skill, arm strength, accuracy,
tom Brady doesn't ranking those. That's why he didn't he does.
He have three rob g three MVPs. You would think
he'd have nine or ten, but he doesn't. Same thing,
is it two or three?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
Well, look it might be.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
It might be three, but I'm to your point, playing
twenty years, it might be, I think, but to playing
that many years, Yeah, he played this three yeah, three
MVPs in twenty twenty four years. How many years did
he play with seven Super Bowls titles? It's crazy. But
here's the thing. So, so with that being said, I
think what makes it more interesting is that this is
(22:35):
something that like where we've become as a society where
once reputable publications, but most.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Reputable ones are not on this. Here's what's back, Well,
go ahead.
Speaker 1 (22:46):
There's a news outlet out here in LA that has
been known what's the name of it. I'll say it
ABC seven specifically. They're there their social stuff. They were,
you know, ABC seven is a little bit more of the
high a little bit more kind of straightforward news, and
you can tell on their socials that they were just like,
you know what, what's got folks? What gets folks riled
(23:10):
up one.
Speaker 4 (23:11):
Way or the other.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
And they'll post something you'll see and it'll be like,
oh my gosh, and it'll be the most rant it'll
be in Kansas. It I had nothing to do with
LA And this is ABC here locally and I have
nothing to do with anything. And you can tell it's
because it'll get people going right, and it'll be something
that might be stereotypical, like that's gonna rate, they're gonna
beat you. See, that's what you do when you let
(23:32):
those people or that's what you do are all such
and that's the usual suspects. You get a lot of
that because them clicks go crazy, the comments go crazy,
the engagement go crazy, as opposed to saying here in La,
you know a fireman put out the fuck oh whatever,
like but if they go find some crazy wild story
in Florida, some crazy wild story in Alabama, that's just
where can I give you?
Speaker 8 (23:53):
Like like whoever the editor was who read this piece
or whatever could have said something like well. Across the
first one hundred starts of his career, Lamar Jackson has
led the highest scoring offense ever two eight hundred eighty
three points and owns the third most wins seventy three.
(24:13):
Like none of it. As I say to my students
all the time and talking about this, anybody can have
an opinion, but based on what you have, it has
to be based on something in order for you to
make that case. And it just there's no case for
there's no overrated who would and then he has other
like it just doesn't even make any sense.
Speaker 1 (24:35):
And that's what I mean, Rob, what I'm saying blown
away that that would even make a game. But we're
in the era where people feel pressure to have engagement. Right,
you can't just stand on quality. I can't just stand
on equality if people aren't engaged to saying, well, dangan,
it was quality.
Speaker 4 (24:50):
Yeah, well you are making it up.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
You know, you only got twenty thousand impressions this thing
over here from some random blogger. Dude got two hundred
and eighty five thousand impressions. Eighty but we need advertisements.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Yeah, but that's just that's where we are. Bob, g
what you got? I got a question?
Speaker 3 (25:07):
And Rob, let me finish the question because I don't
want it to sound negative. I'm not trying to be negative.
But there are certain topics that people think, well, Rob
is just saying something crazy. Rob's trying to get engagement whatever.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Right, But what.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Rob Parker does have and we talk on there off
there about this A thousand years of experience at some
of the biggest publications across the country, television, radio, print, everything,
his name is in big Marquee letters. You know exactly
who he is, you know exactly how he feels about
this topic. The person who wrote this in Bleacher Report
does not even have a Twitter account. The person who
(25:44):
wrote this in Bleacher is a free lancer who has
a half done LinkedIn page and a muck rack account.
I mean, does Bleacher Report the fact that they did
not have whoever your favorite column and whatever Jeremy ESPN
Right if Jeremy Fowler says this, even if you've disagree
(26:05):
with the take, there's some credibility because like, hey, he's
covered the NFL for a long time. I disagree with
but something that he's saying that I can latch onto.
Speaker 8 (26:15):
But in the case of that, he would even his
editor would make to say, what's to say? You gotta
give me you know what I mean, It ain't It
ain't enough just to say that.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
You'd have to really make a case like it's almost
court your honor. I believe this because this is the boom.
The evidence shows Da da Dad Now and again we
all to your point. You're you can fudge numbers, right,
because you could I'm making it up. You could find
some number that Lamar Jackson and crunch time, third, fourth,
third and fourth quarters is only da da da da da. Okay,
(26:46):
at least you found something that we can now have
a debate over right. You found some numbers that I
can say, all right, But but to just be like
he's overrated to not a single human being thinks that,
especially when we're talking just strictly about the accomplishments of
the whole career and the conversations with just pis of fraud.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
It's just postseason, all right.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Maybe you can disagree with an agree, but the idea
that his career that's far. He's had an incredible career.
It's actually laughable how good he has been. Like you
and I sit up here and talking about it doesn't
even look real. It's like a video game. He'll have
like two hundred and sixty yards passing, three touchdowns, rushing
touchdown and eighty nine yards passes. You say it all
the time. It makes it look easy. It looks like
(27:26):
it's embarrassing.
Speaker 8 (27:27):
Like he's like like he's like he's playing ball in
the backyard.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
It just looks so easy for him, and that guy
cannot be completed.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Overrated that is that that doesn't make any sense.
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