November 27, 2025 • 41 mins
Best of The Odd Couple – Rob Parker and Martin Weiss bring you a Thanksgiving special!
The guys open the hour by breaking down the Lions’ Thanksgiving loss to the Packers and what this could mean for Detroit and head coach Dan Campbell moving forward. They also dive into the Chiefs’ loss to the Cowboys asking the question: Are you rooting for the Chiefs to miss the playoffs? Plus, the guys react to the Bengals @ Ravens thanksgiving matchup with Joe Burrow back as the QB1 for the Bengals!
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Sweetie baby, there we go. Let's go a big show.
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Speaker 1 (02:56):
He is Martin, Martin White, Martin who Martin?
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Never heard of Martin White? What's happening to my man?
Happy Thanksgiving? Happy Thanksgiving? Much like the Lions and the Cowboys.
We are at work.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, people work on Thanksgiving. Did you see all those
cards out there on the road. That wasn't all travel,
That was some people working. But anyway, we are here,
We're gonna be uh, got three hours, got some good
guests gonna chime in. We got a lot of stuff
to talk about. Let's welcome in first the odd couple crew,
because we wouldn't be able to do this fine radio
show without them, especially on this Thanksgiving. Alex again, a
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million thanks. Alex is our engineer behind That's right, absolutely,
Alex and I this is eight years strong.
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We're always trying to make it uh and be here
eight years. This is our eighth Yeah we just like
eighth year. You guys have been together eight years? Yeah, wow,
and much longer longer than That's right.
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I was only married for five and Rob g said
the over under was two and a half years.
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So we blewed out a yeah. You destroyed that sure did.
Shae is our producer.
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Happy Thanksgiving, appreciate you been doing all right, doing all
right here Saga.
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Of course, Saga is our social media one more time,
and we still appreciate that apple pie and ice creamy boy,
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The show, so we appreciate him on this holiday.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
All right, Let's start with obviously, the first game of
the year, the first game of Thanksgiving, i should say,
is always the Lions, and the Lions and the Green
Bay Packers in Detroit as somebody who covered as a
columnist in Detroit the Lions for twenty years more.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And you know what the holiday it is.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Martin went to high school in Michigan and suburban Detroit
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's a big deal. But today today was really a huge.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Game for the Lions as far as playoff implications of
course winning the division, you know, not a Packers swept
the series and Green Bay gets it done. But I
do want to say this and Martin and I'll get
your takeaway from today, and I've been saying a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm not gonna beat my chest.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Packers winn at thirty one, twenty four four touchdowns by
Jordan Love fourth down place. Well, the Packers three three
for three and the Lions zero for two. But there's
a couple of things I take out of this. First,
before the season started, I said the Lions wouldn't make
the playoffs, and I feel even better today with the
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whole at seven and five, they could easily be six
and six. They got a gift from the Giants last week,
but they won the game. So there's seven and five
Packers Bears. We'll see where the Bears are. You know,
they got a tougher schedule at the end, but they
were in a tough spot now and the Lions have
some tough games as well. Dan Gamble, I've never been
a fan of you know, everybody told me I was
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crazy with Sugar all that they love him.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's a motivator.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And he's fearless and all the other stuff. Give the
Lions the identity again going for four things on fourth down,
not taking the three points. Sometimes three points add up
whatever it is. But I'm convinced now more than ever
it's a wrap. And what I mean is the Lions window.
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When you go back and think about the last two years,
going to the NFC, championship game Martin destroying the forty
nine ers in the first half. You don't go to
Super Bowl on that thirty minutes away. Last year, you
go fifteen and two and you have home field throughout
the playoff. The number one seed Washington with a rookie
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court comes in Jared gollf four turnovers, you get blanch.
You lose to that team in a run that should
have been your run to get you there, right and
it didn't happen. And now I'm looking at it, I'm
not surprised by they lost both coordinators, the step that
they've taken back where they are, and I'm convinced that
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this window has closed on the Lions, starting with them
not making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Your takeaway, Yeah, I'm not there at all.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
I don't think this window is closed, but I do
think that this game today was one of the Like
I think the fallout from today's game and that fourth
down play that Jordan Love completed Dantavian Wicks is one
of those that is truly going to swing this division.
You know, prior to Matt Lafleur had only I know
he's now three to zero in the division. Last year
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went one in six or a one in five in
the NFC North and still was able to make the playoffs.
That's not happening this year, especially with the emergence of
the Chicago Bears. So when the Lions let this game
to me slip out of their fingers, especially the way
they played in the first quarter. You had bad calls
on both sides that impacted the way that the game
ended up playing, but none of them that ended the
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way that that impacted the end result of the game.
The Lions letting this one go obviously impacts their playoffs,
impacts their ability to win the division, tremendously impacts their
ability to make the playoffs. But if the Lions wins,
though is closed, then you would have been saying, are
not saying you? But if I would have believed that
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to be true, then I would have said the same
thing about the Eagles this time last year or two
years ago, as they were struggling through the regular season,
not having the same vibes that they were supposed to
be having.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't think there's different.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I say the only thing I'm gonna say it's different
is that the Eagles had gone to the Super Bowl,
they might not have won but they had already gone.
They had already made that leap to the Super Bowl.
So yeah, I agreed that they were struggling, but they
had they had made a leap, and then the following
year they didn't get back. They were ten and one. Right,
it was a lumpy ten and one. People didn't believe
in them. So there's a little bit of different. The
Lions had a chance to get there, and maybe I
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would feel different had they gotten over that hump and
gotten there, even if they had lost. I'm saying like
that was your golden opportunity. Your second golden opportunity was
going fifteen and two. And now as you look at
the division, the division is better. You can't say that
the Bears aren't better. They might not be exactly where
they want to be, and they still got growing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
This is Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You lost your two coordinators, right, Ben Johnson and them
are better and you can't and the Packers are better.
That's the problem with where I see the Lions now.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
No, to me, the Lions have taken a step I
would say a half step back. The rest of the
division saved. The Vikings have taken a full step forward, right,
So I'm not saying that, I think that now you
are looking at a really tight race down the stretch.
Losing this game cost you, and it may cost you
in the grand scheme of.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Things for this season.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
But when I look at the Lions, I look at
the structure that they have, especially on the offensive side
of the ball. This team should be able to score
points consistently this year, next year, going forward.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They're gonna like call her with Dan Campbell, Dan Gamble,
you like him as to play caller. I like him
better than like John Morton last year. And I think
this when it comes to Dan Campbell. You mean John
Morton this year, John Morton this year.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yes, in the first half of this year. Dan Campbell,
to me is the scheme. And like you Wed Blump
cut coaches into two different groups, tough guys and scheme guys.
I think that Dan Campbell is a tough scheme guy.
Now he's better at being tough guy and motivated than
he is scheme. But we'll take over that role when
it needs to be like it needed to be with
John Morton in this moment. He's gonna find somebody else
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to be able to take that role over. And then
I think the whole team will get better. I think
they missed on offensive coord end of this year, there's no.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Doubt about it. Well, they should have.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Gone outside of the room, sure, instead of outside the building,
especially with what is hanging in the balance. They should
have gone out and hired the best available guy out there,
and they didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
They decided to.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I just think when when you got a team that
has ready to win, or you have all your pieces there,
that's when you don't mess around with it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So now you could this season could wind up being.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
A big step back, you know what I mean, as
everybody else takes a step forward.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I think you look back at two moments in this
Lion season has to wear a three rather where it
really burns you. The Packers trade for Michael Parsons two
weeks before Week one, and that defensive line completely wrecks
your brand new rookie center right twenty to six, and
it wasn't that even close.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Then you go back and you look at that.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Hiring John Morton, and then I taken the play calling
over and like you saw, the way was going. They
lost some games offensively they should have been better. And
then Eagles that the fourth downs against the Eagles were
really atrocious. Those to me were the three moments that
like cost you this game. Because I don't think the
Lions in this game today got severely outplayed. I don't
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think if you look at the stats, the stats are
pretty much even passing yards, rushing yards, I don't think
they got severely outlay.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, but I don't look at stuff like that as.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Far as But if you're talking about the window, you
talk about how far the Packers from the Lions.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't think they're that far.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But the difference I'm looking at is last year they
were a no at home? Right, sure, a no. Now
they're losing games at home. This was a big game
for them. The Packers beat them in Green Bay. Okay, right,
the Packers beat them in Green Bay. You watched last
week against the Giants. Was that not a gift? That
was a gift to me? That was a straight gift
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by the Giants. So I looked at that as like
that easily could have been a loss.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It wasn't. It was, yeah, but that's but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Uh. And I look at how difficult it has been
for them, uh this year, when this team last year was.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Steamrolling everybody for we have to do.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
We'll be remiss to not say Jordan Love and Matt
Lafourd going ford on that fourth down play to convert
it to Dantavian Wicks. I believe it was to seal
the game. That was massive and that to play for
all the all of the things that we're talking about
the Lions, it's the Packers that made that all in
trade for the defensive end that's supposed to take you
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and take you to the next level. Losing this game,
especially blowing a ten point fourth quarter leave.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
For the Packers that would have been catastrophia. Yeah, but
it's catastrophe, I hear you. And if the Lions would
have fighting for their lives, would have somehow came back
and won the game or whatever, it wouldn't even have
been somehow. You can just been an incomplete pass. It
would have got the ball to fifty in a field
goal game. But I'm heard a touchdown game. Yeah, but
it doesn't mean you're gonna get in the end zone.
Even from there.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You have a good shot at it. You would have
a shot if you get the ball back. But I'm
just saying the issue that I have is that was
a huge game for the Lions. Everybody knew that going
in like that is you can't allow them to sweep
you and then to do it. You know, if it
was the reverse and you were in Green Bay, Okay,
I get it, you know, And we tried.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
To get a road win, but it didn't happen anyway.
Lions lose.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox thirty one
to twenty four to the first game of the day
on this Thanksgiving and uh, that's what Dan Campbell sound
like after the game. I mean, they are seven and five.
The doesn't look like they can win the division. There's
a lot of other stuff going on. It is incredible.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Where are you on the Lions?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I say, the window to me, it's obvious the window
has closed this year. I predicted they take a step back,
that they wouldn't make the playoffs. Of course they're not
mathematically out of it. They could still make it, but
they got a hard.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Road to go.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I look at blown opportunities the last two years
coming into this year and now changes Martin's not on
that boat. I am where are you? Eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox? It is the odd Couple eight seven, seven,
nine nine, i'd sixty three sixty nine.
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Speaker 1 (16:10):
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
Coming up.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
In about twenty seven minutes to Sean Tate basketball analysts.
I will talk some college basketball and some NBA will
do that with him. We also got a little shop talk.
We got a lot of stuff to get to. But Martin,
you just did the update. Update us again for people
just tuning in. What happened to the Kansas City? What
hop and Lucy to the Kansas City Chiefs, who were
(17:29):
favored in this game in Dallas. Cowboys are now six
five and one and the Chiefs dropped to six and six.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
I mean Kansas City not able to scored fourteen fourth
quarter points.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
But not able to get the win. They were down
going into the.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Fourth quarter, obviously, but Dak Press got it through an
interception in the first quarter. Didn't matter much. Thirty one
to twenty eight. The final score branded Alrey getting it.
I mean, Kansas City scored the last points on the board.
Dak kneeled it out. But just honestly impressive offense performance
by the Cowboys in this matchup today.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No doubt. Where are you on?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We know how things work in sports, Okay, because it's
not just people hate the Dodgers now they just won
back to back World Series, right Shay, am I right?
The Dodger hate is through the roof. Shae's a Dodger fan,
am I right? Yeah, it's crazy that you're saying. I'm
just saying it's through the roof. I've seen it everywhere.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I mean, I'm used to seeing it, obviously, Like the
Dodgers have always kind of been the team that always
got to hate, but it's now more than.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Ever because they won, because they've won a couple World
Series exactly you put, and he's paying weekly, right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You know that's also probably annoying people. But I think
this is where we all with Kansas City. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think that there are people in NFL America who
are now rooting. At first, it was a great story.
Patrick Mahomes was unbelievable. This young guy, only his second
year in the league and he's winning MVP's. I remember,
they won't lose. How can they lose? He took our
team friendly contracts so everything can stay in place. Who's
(19:06):
gonna beat him? My old radio partner, Chris Bussard, he's Jordanesque.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I scoffed at it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I said, no way, no how, stop with the jordan
He not even Joe Montana ask stop it. And now
here we are. Last year they were eleven and oher
in one score games, one in six this year. Can't
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win those games. Those are the magical. They would get
a cold and call, they would get something go their way.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Patrick Mahomes would find a way to win, pull it out.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Other teams would melt with the idea of playing the Chiefs.
Enough already, I'm done in the war in the Super
Bowl last year?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What did I.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Say ab see anybody but Chiefs? Before the season started.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I raise my hand.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I said the Chiefs will not n ot make the playoffs.
People thought I was crazy? What with Patrick Mahomes in
that division? How what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You're just a hater? No, I'm not. I saw this coming?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Did juju? From last year? They were lucky to get
to the Super Bowl. They were lucky to be fifteen
and two. How they didn't play well enough? And now
here we are? Am I crazy?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Morning?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Do you feel them the anti chief stuff?
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Are you still rooting for the Chiefs? You still want
to see them get to the Super Bowl every year.
I went to journalism school, so I'm a reporter. I
don't root for teams. No, I am not a wild
and rampant hater. What about being a hater, I'm just
letting let me clarify. When I talk about that was
five minutes. I want to clarify that was five minutes
(21:14):
to some hate. Okay, I just want to clarify. When
you do this job, and you'll get this down the
road or you figure it out. Sure, what you want
to do in your analysis is you do you root
for you being right? That's what That's what I get
paid for. And when I'm the one who goes out
on the limb. Everybody can pick the Chiefs every year
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and say they're not going to make the playoffs, which is.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Going out on a limb.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
If it does come to pass, and right now it
looks like they got a rough road to make.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It might have to go undefeated. I believe to make
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
To have a shot to make the playoffs, I don't
have any tie breakers right They've lost. They've lost all
their tiebreakers from Denver to Jacksonville, all the wildcard tie records.
I'm pretty sure they have to win out to make
we make the postseason. But I always this honestly reminds
me of another one of your takes that you like
the most. Never give any money back. Because Patrick Mahomes
(22:12):
did take that team friendly contract right making it ten
years and sure, don't get me wrong, Patrick Mahomes W
two is not light.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
He's got money, but the way he structured his deal
was the idea that you're going to be able to extend, guys,
keep teams together, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And guess what you got right now?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
The leading rusher on the Kansas City Chiefs is the
same person who is the leading rusher on the Kansas
City Chiefs when Patrick Mahomes signed that contract.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The leading tight end receiver.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
On the Kansas City Chiefs is the same one that
Patrick Mahomes signed that contract. You look at Tom Brady
right that the guy that Pat they compare Patrick Mahomes
to in terms of career.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Rid Tyreek Kill's not there anymore, No.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
But the tight end, the tight end leading receiver to
Travis Kelce. He was the receiver when Mahomes signed his extension.
He was their number one target. He's still their number
one target. Like they've not filled in. They absorbed losing
tyreek Hill for a few years, but they never replaced
him in terms of being the guy over the top
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that they had. My point is this, they did not
nearly improve around Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Year after year after year after year.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And if you look at the corollary they Brady got
out to the hot start to start his career.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Mahomes got out to the hot start to start his career.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Brady had a period in the middle where he was
not winning at the same clip, in part because the
players around him were golder, lost to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Step people forget about that nine year gap, a nine
year gap between when.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
They had to reload the skill players and Kansas City
has not done that successfully. Whether you wanted to be injury, suspension,
whatever excuse you want to make for the reason why
it hasn't happened, it hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, it hasn't. Is Patrick Mahomes the same guy.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I know he had four touchdowns today, you know, or
he had four touchdowns two hundred and sixty one yards.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You know, he played fine, He did what he had
to do.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They just can't couldn't stop the Cowboys who have a
juggernaut of an offense.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Every time they needed to get a first.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Down, they got it. And that's how they that's how
you secure these games. But when you win a lot,
Pete fans, you know, start to pull against you. This
is I'm not surprised of the Kansas City. After a while,
it's like, Okay, can somebody else win. We're ready to
see somebody else get in there. And I'm not surprised
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coming into the season. What was your take on Kansas City?
And where were you as far as just you know,
the feeling of the team, you know, winning the division again,
they've owned the division, right.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I picked the Broncos to win the West. Actually, all
thought all three of the perennial AFC powers were all
going to struggle this year just off of the this
very nonsense, even the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
So you you pick, you picked them not to win
the division.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Your partner, I think buff up between Buffalo and Baltimore,
one of them is missing the playoffs, and I think
all three of these teams are wildcards. And he looked
at me like I was crazy. Well that leading winning
leading the division now, I mean, but I said this
before you asked me what I take. It was before
kickoff of the regular season. That was my opinion, and
they're leading it now. But again, you know, we'll see
it all how it all shapes out. But it's not
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not scientific. But they just played more football.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Than everybody else.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Kansas City has been what the seven straight AFC championship games.
You add all that in, that's that's like a whole
other football season that these guys have played. But I
just have not been impressed with the down, the the
year to year roster improvement that I think you have
to have. Kansas City's left tackle has been an issue forever.
That get the address with Josh Simmons.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Josson missed some time for personal issues and not sure
what that's about, but he picked up three penalties this today. Right,
there's just been an issue. The issues that Kansas City
has had has been those issues consistently. And I think
the only shortcoming that I really am giving Patrick Mahomes
here is he's having an inability to overcome the things
that he overcame when he was younger. But to me,
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you should have improved these things around him at this
point in time. You've got the answer at quarterback, you
got to figure it out everywhere else.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
How stunning though, will let's be that they don't make
the playoffs. Will will you look at it as stunning
or not, like you figured that they wouldn't win a division,
But I think you figured they'd make the playoffs, Like well.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
But that's the thing if you when you're playing the
game of That's why so many teams, that's why it's
such a big deal that the Packers trade for Michael
Parsons and the Lions lose their center Frank rag Now
in the same offseason.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right. I know, I'm not trying to get two in
the weeds of it.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
But you don't win the division you start to play,
you're playing, you're playing with fire.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, you could make.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
It at ten and seven, but every single year we
see a team with double digit wins who missed not
make the player. You gotta set up to win the
division every single year. That's why to me, like, if
you start playing with wild card, slaying them in, that's
all because it could be a soft division like the Jaguars.
(27:14):
Between the Jaguars and the Texans, one of them may
be a wildcard. The AFC South is not exactly the
AFC West. Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, we want to
hear from you. Eight seven seven nine to nine six
sixty three sixty nine. Where are you on the chief
rooting against them? Rooting for them? You still think they
have a chance to make it? How disappointing are you
in their season? Just six and six? Which when was
(27:43):
the last time they lost six games? Can I say it?
Since Moby Dick was a guppy? I mean, seriously, at
least in the Patrick Mahomes he.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Or six losses.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I'm being honest, off the top of my head, I
don't think Patrick Mahomes ever lost sixteen.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, I agree. I we're not even looking at it.
Six losses. They were fifteen and two last year and
now they're struggling, struggling, struggling big time.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Are you happy? Sad? Struggling? There you go, Thank you,
Joe Broadway, Joe.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, it is the couple Rob Parker Martin weiss
in for Kelvin Washington on this Thanksgiving night.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Thank you six games one time. So what year was that?
Two thousand, twenty twenty three? So they were what were they?
They finished ten and six that season in the regular season,
So there it is, went to the AFT champions won
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, then year they won ten and six. Crazy, I'm unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I was gonna say, like six losses and they still
got uh.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Five to go right? Point five to go to the
point they finished ten and six.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Today is Thanksgiving and they have six losses, right, no doubt?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
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That's right? The TV for Daddy.
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That's the TV theme song. Thursday edition, Thanksgiving Edition.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
Rob Parker. Why is it?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I can just imagine you after your Hall of Fame induction, right,
You're at this beautiful place. You're going out to Magic
City with some friends. You see a group of girls
and you just say, make room for Dad.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
I can see it. That might be.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
That might be the verbiage in that moment. That just
might be. Let's update the score. Seventy three, Baltimore is winning,
Cincinnati has the.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Ball on a Is that a third down play?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
But Cincinnati is It is third play by play, but
I didn't give it twenty seconds left, Cincinnati fall start.
Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yes, we'll do that, But I do want to say
I'm thankful for everybody and Thanksgiving. Thanks for everybody for
being here and being a.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Part of the radio show.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
And you know, I know we even make a big
deal about working on the holidays, and people take off.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
People have a right to do whatever they want to do,
and I respect that, and I'll take off.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
You know, next week I'm gonna go to Detroit and
New York and see family. I just you know what
I mean this to me is is okay to keep
the show rolling. I don't like to like totally abandon
our listeners and people.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
We can the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Rob, they're not playing thanks to Baseball on Thanksgiving. If
there were Thanksgiving Baseball, I wouldn't be here, He'll say,
And you stand a better shot at not being here.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
So I'll let America in on a little secret. But
Rob Parker does.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
He works every holiday, so that way, when it comes
to be I don't know, July thirteenth and he wants
to watch the Cubs and the Brewers playing in Wrigley Field,
he can go. And Scott Sapiro can't say bump because
he worked.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
He's got all of.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
These comp days because he didn't work, because he worked
on Thanksgiving, worked on Christmas, worked on you name it,
New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, you Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
St. Patrick's Day, you name it.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Rob Parker will find a way to work as long
as there's not nine innings being played, nearby.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Okay, that's fair. I'm not even gonna dispute that.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'd rather take the time off in the summer and
go to the ballpark and hang out with friends and
all that. But I am looking forward to next week.
I'm going to the Lions Cowboys game, which would be interesting.
Where are you on that game? Mark, I'm just curious.
That's a big game in Detroit. The Cowboys offense is fantastic.
(33:09):
They look they are fantastic.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
I really like the Cowboys coming into the season. Actually,
even after making the Michael Parsons trade, do I think now, obviously,
you add Michael Parsons to your team or taking him
away from him, He's gonna make it better or worse,
depending on what you do.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But the idea that the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Were just like gonna go away, all right, I'm just
I wasn't there for this was a team that in
the last four years of three years, in the last
three years prior to the year before, he has won
thirty six games twelve.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And five three Like, this is a double digit win team,
went healthy.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So I expected with that could be healthy for them
to be around that double digit win team. They really
blew it in Denver and in Green Bay, because this
game should be for them to be really competing for
the top of the NFC East. I think that this
But this game in terms of to the point to
your point earlier about how this is a big loss
for the Lions, this is a game the Lions Cowboys.
(34:02):
I don't know what the Lion is ahead of time.
I think these are two pretty evenly matched teams. Would
not shock me to see either one of these teams,
you know, come out with a touchdown win Like I
wouldn't either both these teams line up good. But now, Lions,
this is the loss that can knock you out of
the playoffs. Where Dallas is looking up like they weren't
expected to make the playoffs. They're they're in the wild
(34:24):
card hunt. They'll stay in the hunt. Winner lose, Lions,
you're in the hunt winner lose too. But it's it's
a lot uglier than it would be if you had
won today.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's gonna be like we thought today was a big
game against the Package because they had lost the first Oh,
this is the season.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This is like the.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Season will be on the line. I'll be in Detroit
for that one, so I'm looking forward make sure you
finish the job.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You already know people gonna be like, what are you
doing here? You bad luck rock.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Right now, whenever I go to Detroit people are nice
to me, So I'm not even gonna play that I've
worked there for twenty years. And for people don't know,
Martin and I worked together in Detroit and came to
LA which Martin, we can't believe December first for me,
I know you came like two weeks later or something.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
When did you get something like that?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But we're starting. This will be my tenth year. And
look at so much that has happened since you came
to Los Angeles. You got a master's degree from USC
you got married. I mean, I can't get over what
like the nine years. Think about all these life changing
things that have happened.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You got a.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
National radio show on the weekend. Matter of fact, you
should plug that. And what time you're listening to it?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
It's to me and Martin, if you listen to Fox
Sports Radio on Saturday, you can't miss your boy because
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'm here not only doing I'm here up.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
But what time is your show on it? I'm here
it's five to eight. When when you says.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Five to eight Pacific, now eight to eleven Eastern. Whatever, Yeah,
five to eight, eight to eleven. Me and Manzi Blanos,
the two two way players here at Fox Sports Radio.
They put us together on a show. All right, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Every Saturday, eleven to what is it, eight to eleven
christ eight to eleven Eastern.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
All right, this is the best ad ever been done.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I just wanted to give you some props, okay for
the show. But let's go here with the Ravens, and
I know, I mean Martin. They started one to five.
They were giving up forty points. If you remember, they
gave up a game in which they scored forty points
in Buffalo to start the season.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's forty to twenty four. And then Josh Allen put
the k born exactly and it was a horrific loss.
They gave up.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
The Texans couldn't score touchdowns to save their lives. The
Texans scored forty, the Lions scored thirty eight. Everybody was
beating the Ravens like a drum. And now we look up,
we're at Thanksgiving and they lead the division, the AFC North.
They lead the division, right, and they beat the Bengals
(36:57):
here tonight in Baltimore. All of a sudden, they're seven
and five and have a great I just think.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
There's something to be said about this.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
The last few years, Marten, they've won a lot of
games regular season, unbelievable there, thirteen wins.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
This might be their path where the pressure's off because
of what where the season started, and they could build
and go forward without the pressure of being the number
one seed and is Lamar finally gonna get there and
people counting them out. They're not on the radar like that.
People know that they're still good, but that start to
the season kind of put them on the back burner.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Where are you on the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, they put them on the back burner, But the
problem is that the holes too big, Like I don't
see the Ravens and I go to that they're right
there with the Steelers, and I know that six and
five and six and five real looking to those records
and they're both the same. This Ravens team to me
is not as they're not to me markedly better than
the Steelers. When I look at him, I think when
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you look at Lamar Jackson's obviously incredible. He has not
been the same type of player that he has been
in years past. The lower body injuries are really impacting
his ability to move. I just think the Ravens dug
themselves too far of a whole to make themselves real
contenders this year. And it's a shame because the rest
of the AFC looks like it's gettable. But that one
in five start needs to be a two and three
(38:23):
start or three and two start for me to really
believe in this team.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
See, I think that it doesn't matter how you start,
it's how you finish. And I think that they have
an opportunity because we know what the talent is.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm sticking with my pick.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
My original pick before the season was the Green Bay
Packers and the Baltimore Ravens. I do believe when you
look at the AFC, that they can come out of
the AFC, especially if we got we're gonna knock the
Chiefs out right, And now I don't know, Buffalo is
not nearly as good. I don't think this year, and
(39:00):
we're looking at what Denver, you're looking at who else
in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
The Chargers sure they.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Can't beat those two teams, like like I'm just saying,
like off the rip, if Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
are out of the way, and maybe Buffalo, you know,
Buffalo is not gonna win the division, right and they're
gonna be on Newland, it.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Should close it.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
It will likely be New England. But my issue is
just saying, I just the Chiefs. I mean, the Ravens
had to make the playoffs, like that's the thing that
they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
They could win the division, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Like when they started one and five, now this is
not They called that they've just got to beat the
Steelers out.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
But I don't they still but they still played the
Steelers twice to hell, they have to win today.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
They like these like they are neck and neck with
the Steelers, is my point to me. And this do
you think's gonna win a division between those two? Are you?
I had picked Pittsburgh to start again.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
I was down on all three of the the I'm sorry, Ravens, Bills,
and Chiefs to start the season. So I had picked
Pittsburgh already at like ten and seven. I just didn't
expect either one of these teams to run away with
anything because I thought Pittsburgh had gotten a little bit better,
but all their additions are so old that it's hard
to manage. But the thing that's tricky for Baltimore right now,
(40:14):
the thing that's tough for Baltimore is the bottom of
the AFC North doesn't look like it did the first
for the first six weeks of the year. Low Joe
Burrow's back in Cincinnati. I don't expect that team to
be a team that now goes on a run. But
as we see right now, started the second quarter or
five minutes in the second quarter, it's a one point game.
Then those division matchups, anything can happen. That's what I
(40:36):
think expect. Do you expect the Bengals to win in
Baltimore to night?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I do.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I expect to win this game going into it before
we took the end.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Don't think they're weird talking about the Ravens are a
weird team.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
They get off to really slow starts and then before
you know what, they score two or three touchdown.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It hasn't been that impressive, so I get it, but
I still think I still like the Ravens. I want
to hear what you think. Martin is out on the Ravens.
I'm in on the Ravens. I think they have a path.
This might be the year they finally could get to
the super Bowl because the pressure's off somewhat, but the
expectations have been way lowered with the one in five start.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Where are you on the Ravens? You in on the
Ravens or out on the Ravens?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
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Happy Thanksgiving? Happy Thanksgiving? Much like the Lions and the Cowboys.
We are at work.
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Yes, people work on Thanksgiving. Did you see all those
cards out there on the road. That wasn't all travel,
That was some people working. But anyway, we are here,
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We're always trying to make it uh and be here
eight years. This is our eighth Yeah we just like
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I was only married for five and Rob g said
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The show, so we appreciate him on this holiday.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
All right, Let's start with obviously, the first game of
the year, the first game of Thanksgiving, i should say,
is always the Lions, and the Lions and the Green
Bay Packers in Detroit as somebody who covered as a
columnist in Detroit the Lions for twenty years more.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
And you know what the holiday it is.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
Martin went to high school in Michigan and suburban Detroit
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
It's a big deal. But today today was really a huge.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Game for the Lions as far as playoff implications of
course winning the division, you know, not a Packers swept
the series and Green Bay gets it done. But I
do want to say this and Martin and I'll get
your takeaway from today, and I've been saying a lot.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
I'm not gonna beat my chest.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Packers winn at thirty one, twenty four four touchdowns by
Jordan Love fourth down place. Well, the Packers three three
for three and the Lions zero for two. But there's
a couple of things I take out of this. First,
before the season started, I said the Lions wouldn't make
the playoffs, and I feel even better today with the
(05:49):
whole at seven and five, they could easily be six
and six. They got a gift from the Giants last week,
but they won the game. So there's seven and five
Packers Bears. We'll see where the Bears are. You know,
they got a tougher schedule at the end, but they
were in a tough spot now and the Lions have
some tough games as well. Dan Gamble, I've never been
a fan of you know, everybody told me I was
(06:11):
crazy with Sugar all that they love him.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
He's a motivator.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
And he's fearless and all the other stuff. Give the
Lions the identity again going for four things on fourth down,
not taking the three points. Sometimes three points add up
whatever it is. But I'm convinced now more than ever
it's a wrap. And what I mean is the Lions window.
(06:36):
When you go back and think about the last two years,
going to the NFC, championship game Martin destroying the forty
nine ers in the first half. You don't go to
Super Bowl on that thirty minutes away. Last year, you
go fifteen and two and you have home field throughout
the playoff. The number one seed Washington with a rookie
(06:59):
court comes in Jared gollf four turnovers, you get blanch.
You lose to that team in a run that should
have been your run to get you there, right and
it didn't happen. And now I'm looking at it, I'm
not surprised by they lost both coordinators, the step that
they've taken back where they are, and I'm convinced that
(07:23):
this window has closed on the Lions, starting with them
not making the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Your takeaway, Yeah, I'm not there at all.
Speaker 6 (07:30):
I don't think this window is closed, but I do
think that this game today was one of the Like
I think the fallout from today's game and that fourth
down play that Jordan Love completed Dantavian Wicks is one
of those that is truly going to swing this division.
You know, prior to Matt Lafleur had only I know
he's now three to zero in the division. Last year
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went one in six or a one in five in
the NFC North and still was able to make the playoffs.
That's not happening this year, especially with the emergence of
the Chicago Bears. So when the Lions let this game
to me slip out of their fingers, especially the way
they played in the first quarter. You had bad calls
on both sides that impacted the way that the game
ended up playing, but none of them that ended the
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way that that impacted the end result of the game.
The Lions letting this one go obviously impacts their playoffs,
impacts their ability to win the division, tremendously impacts their
ability to make the playoffs. But if the Lions wins,
though is closed, then you would have been saying, are
not saying you? But if I would have believed that
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to be true, then I would have said the same
thing about the Eagles this time last year or two
years ago, as they were struggling through the regular season,
not having the same vibes that they were supposed to
be having.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't think there's different.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
I say the only thing I'm gonna say it's different
is that the Eagles had gone to the Super Bowl,
they might not have won but they had already gone.
They had already made that leap to the Super Bowl.
So yeah, I agreed that they were struggling, but they
had they had made a leap, and then the following
year they didn't get back. They were ten and one. Right,
it was a lumpy ten and one. People didn't believe
in them. So there's a little bit of different. The
Lions had a chance to get there, and maybe I
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would feel different had they gotten over that hump and
gotten there, even if they had lost. I'm saying like
that was your golden opportunity. Your second golden opportunity was
going fifteen and two. And now as you look at
the division, the division is better. You can't say that
the Bears aren't better. They might not be exactly where
they want to be, and they still got growing.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
This is Ben Johnson.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
You lost your two coordinators, right, Ben Johnson and them
are better and you can't and the Packers are better.
That's the problem with where I see the Lions now.
Speaker 6 (09:39):
No, to me, the Lions have taken a step I
would say a half step back. The rest of the
division saved. The Vikings have taken a full step forward, right,
So I'm not saying that, I think that now you
are looking at a really tight race down the stretch.
Losing this game cost you, and it may cost you
in the grand scheme of.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Things for this season.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
But when I look at the Lions, I look at
the structure that they have, especially on the offensive side
of the ball. This team should be able to score
points consistently this year, next year, going forward.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
They're gonna like call her with Dan Campbell, Dan Gamble,
you like him as to play caller. I like him
better than like John Morton last year. And I think
this when it comes to Dan Campbell. You mean John
Morton this year, John Morton this year.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
Yes, in the first half of this year. Dan Campbell,
to me is the scheme. And like you Wed Blump
cut coaches into two different groups, tough guys and scheme guys.
I think that Dan Campbell is a tough scheme guy.
Now he's better at being tough guy and motivated than
he is scheme. But we'll take over that role when
it needs to be like it needed to be with
John Morton in this moment. He's gonna find somebody else
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to be able to take that role over. And then
I think the whole team will get better. I think
they missed on offensive coord end of this year, there's no.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Doubt about it. Well, they should have.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Gone outside of the room, sure, instead of outside the building,
especially with what is hanging in the balance. They should
have gone out and hired the best available guy out there,
and they didn't do that.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
They decided to.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
I just think when when you got a team that
has ready to win, or you have all your pieces there,
that's when you don't mess around with it.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
So now you could this season could wind up being.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
A big step back, you know what I mean, as
everybody else takes a step forward.
Speaker 6 (11:18):
I think you look back at two moments in this
Lion season has to wear a three rather where it
really burns you. The Packers trade for Michael Parsons two
weeks before Week one, and that defensive line completely wrecks
your brand new rookie center right twenty to six, and
it wasn't that even close.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Then you go back and you look at that.
Speaker 6 (11:37):
Hiring John Morton, and then I taken the play calling
over and like you saw, the way was going. They
lost some games offensively they should have been better. And
then Eagles that the fourth downs against the Eagles were
really atrocious. Those to me were the three moments that
like cost you this game. Because I don't think the
Lions in this game today got severely outplayed. I don't
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think if you look at the stats, the stats are
pretty much even passing yards, rushing yards, I don't think
they got severely outlay.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, but I don't look at stuff like that as.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Far as But if you're talking about the window, you
talk about how far the Packers from the Lions.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
I don't think they're that far.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
But the difference I'm looking at is last year they
were a no at home? Right, sure, a no. Now
they're losing games at home. This was a big game
for them. The Packers beat them in Green Bay. Okay, right,
the Packers beat them in Green Bay. You watched last
week against the Giants. Was that not a gift? That
was a gift to me? That was a straight gift
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by the Giants. So I looked at that as like
that easily could have been a loss.
Speaker 2 (12:38):
It wasn't. It was, yeah, but that's but it wasn't.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
Uh. And I look at how difficult it has been
for them, uh this year, when this team last year was.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Steamrolling everybody for we have to do.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
We'll be remiss to not say Jordan Love and Matt
Lafourd going ford on that fourth down play to convert
it to Dantavian Wicks. I believe it was to seal
the game. That was massive and that to play for
all the all of the things that we're talking about
the Lions, it's the Packers that made that all in
trade for the defensive end that's supposed to take you
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and take you to the next level. Losing this game,
especially blowing a ten point fourth quarter leave.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
For the Packers that would have been catastrophia. Yeah, but
it's catastrophe, I hear you. And if the Lions would
have fighting for their lives, would have somehow came back
and won the game or whatever, it wouldn't even have
been somehow. You can just been an incomplete pass. It
would have got the ball to fifty in a field
goal game. But I'm heard a touchdown game. Yeah, but
it doesn't mean you're gonna get in the end zone.
Even from there.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
You have a good shot at it. You would have
a shot if you get the ball back. But I'm
just saying the issue that I have is that was
a huge game for the Lions. Everybody knew that going
in like that is you can't allow them to sweep
you and then to do it. You know, if it
was the reverse and you were in Green Bay, Okay,
I get it, you know, And we tried.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
To get a road win, but it didn't happen anyway.
Lions lose.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
And eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox thirty one
to twenty four to the first game of the day
on this Thanksgiving and uh, that's what Dan Campbell sound
like after the game. I mean, they are seven and five.
The doesn't look like they can win the division. There's
a lot of other stuff going on. It is incredible.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Where are you on the Lions?
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I say, the window to me, it's obvious the window
has closed this year. I predicted they take a step back,
that they wouldn't make the playoffs. Of course they're not
mathematically out of it. They could still make it, but
they got a hard.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Road to go.
Speaker 1 (14:45):
And I look at blown opportunities the last two years
coming into this year and now changes Martin's not on
that boat. I am where are you? Eight seven, seven
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Speaker 2 (17:06):
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Speaker 1 (17:08):
In about twenty seven minutes to Sean Tate basketball analysts.
I will talk some college basketball and some NBA will
do that with him. We also got a little shop talk.
We got a lot of stuff to get to. But Martin,
you just did the update. Update us again for people
just tuning in. What happened to the Kansas City? What
hop and Lucy to the Kansas City Chiefs, who were
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favored in this game in Dallas. Cowboys are now six
five and one and the Chiefs dropped to six and six.
Speaker 6 (17:36):
I mean Kansas City not able to scored fourteen fourth
quarter points.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
But not able to get the win. They were down
going into the.
Speaker 6 (17:42):
Fourth quarter, obviously, but Dak Press got it through an
interception in the first quarter. Didn't matter much. Thirty one
to twenty eight. The final score branded Alrey getting it.
I mean, Kansas City scored the last points on the board.
Dak kneeled it out. But just honestly impressive offense performance
by the Cowboys in this matchup today.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
No doubt. Where are you on?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
We know how things work in sports, Okay, because it's
not just people hate the Dodgers now they just won
back to back World Series, right Shay, am I right?
The Dodger hate is through the roof. Shae's a Dodger fan,
am I right? Yeah, it's crazy that you're saying. I'm
just saying it's through the roof. I've seen it everywhere.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
I mean, I'm used to seeing it, obviously, Like the
Dodgers have always kind of been the team that always
got to hate, but it's now more than.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
Ever because they won, because they've won a couple World
Series exactly you put, and he's paying weekly, right.
Speaker 2 (18:37):
You know that's also probably annoying people. But I think
this is where we all with Kansas City. Now.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
I think that there are people in NFL America who
are now rooting. At first, it was a great story.
Patrick Mahomes was unbelievable. This young guy, only his second
year in the league and he's winning MVP's. I remember,
they won't lose. How can they lose? He took our
team friendly contracts so everything can stay in place. Who's
(19:06):
gonna beat him? My old radio partner, Chris Bussard, he's Jordanesque.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
I scoffed at it.
Speaker 1 (19:15):
I said, no way, no how, stop with the jordan
He not even Joe Montana ask stop it. And now
here we are. Last year they were eleven and oher
in one score games, one in six this year. Can't
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win those games. Those are the magical. They would get
a cold and call, they would get something go their way.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Patrick Mahomes would find a way to win, pull it out.
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Other teams would melt with the idea of playing the Chiefs.
Enough already, I'm done in the war in the Super
Bowl last year?
Speaker 2 (19:58):
What did I.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Say ab see anybody but Chiefs? Before the season started.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
I raise my hand.
Speaker 1 (20:09):
I said the Chiefs will not n ot make the playoffs.
People thought I was crazy? What with Patrick Mahomes in
that division? How what are you talking about?
Speaker 2 (20:25):
You're just a hater? No, I'm not. I saw this coming?
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Did juju? From last year? They were lucky to get
to the Super Bowl. They were lucky to be fifteen
and two. How they didn't play well enough? And now
here we are? Am I crazy?
Speaker 7 (20:45):
Morning?
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Do you feel them the anti chief stuff?
Speaker 7 (20:49):
Or no?
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Are you still rooting for the Chiefs? You still want
to see them get to the Super Bowl every year.
I went to journalism school, so I'm a reporter. I
don't root for teams. No, I am not a wild
and rampant hater. What about being a hater, I'm just
letting let me clarify. When I talk about that was
five minutes. I want to clarify that was five minutes
(21:14):
to some hate. Okay, I just want to clarify. When
you do this job, and you'll get this down the
road or you figure it out. Sure, what you want
to do in your analysis is you do you root
for you being right? That's what That's what I get
paid for. And when I'm the one who goes out
on the limb. Everybody can pick the Chiefs every year
(21:35):
and say they're not going to make the playoffs, which is.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
Going out on a limb.
Speaker 1 (21:39):
If it does come to pass, and right now it
looks like they got a rough road to make.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
It might have to go undefeated. I believe to make
the playoffs.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
To have a shot to make the playoffs, I don't
have any tie breakers right They've lost. They've lost all
their tiebreakers from Denver to Jacksonville, all the wildcard tie records.
I'm pretty sure they have to win out to make
we make the postseason. But I always this honestly reminds
me of another one of your takes that you like
the most. Never give any money back. Because Patrick Mahomes
(22:12):
did take that team friendly contract right making it ten
years and sure, don't get me wrong, Patrick Mahomes W
two is not light.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (22:22):
He's got money, but the way he structured his deal
was the idea that you're going to be able to extend, guys,
keep teams together, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2 (22:30):
And guess what you got right now?
Speaker 6 (22:32):
The leading rusher on the Kansas City Chiefs is the
same person who is the leading rusher on the Kansas
City Chiefs when Patrick Mahomes signed that contract.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The leading tight end receiver.
Speaker 6 (22:41):
On the Kansas City Chiefs is the same one that
Patrick Mahomes signed that contract. You look at Tom Brady
right that the guy that Pat they compare Patrick Mahomes
to in terms of career.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Rid Tyreek Kill's not there anymore, No.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
But the tight end, the tight end leading receiver to
Travis Kelce. He was the receiver when Mahomes signed his extension.
He was their number one target. He's still their number
one target. Like they've not filled in. They absorbed losing
tyreek Hill for a few years, but they never replaced
him in terms of being the guy over the top
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that they had. My point is this, they did not
nearly improve around Mahomes.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Year after year after year after year.
Speaker 6 (23:24):
And if you look at the corollary they Brady got
out to the hot start to start his career.
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Mahomes got out to the hot start to start his career.
Speaker 6 (23:31):
Brady had a period in the middle where he was
not winning at the same clip, in part because the
players around him were golder, lost to.
Speaker 1 (23:39):
Step people forget about that nine year gap, a nine
year gap between when.
Speaker 6 (23:43):
They had to reload the skill players and Kansas City
has not done that successfully. Whether you wanted to be injury, suspension,
whatever excuse you want to make for the reason why
it hasn't happened, it hasn't happened.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
No, it hasn't. Is Patrick Mahomes the same guy.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
I know he had four touchdowns today, you know, or
he had four touchdowns two hundred and sixty one yards.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
You know, he played fine, He did what he had
to do.
Speaker 1 (24:10):
They just can't couldn't stop the Cowboys who have a
juggernaut of an offense.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Every time they needed to get a first.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Down, they got it. And that's how they that's how
you secure these games. But when you win a lot,
Pete fans, you know, start to pull against you. This
is I'm not surprised of the Kansas City. After a while,
it's like, Okay, can somebody else win. We're ready to
see somebody else get in there. And I'm not surprised
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coming into the season. What was your take on Kansas City?
And where were you as far as just you know,
the feeling of the team, you know, winning the division again,
they've owned the division, right.
Speaker 6 (24:47):
I picked the Broncos to win the West. Actually, all
thought all three of the perennial AFC powers were all
going to struggle this year just off of the this
very nonsense, even the Ravens.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
So you you pick, you picked them not to win
the division.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
Your partner, I think buff up between Buffalo and Baltimore,
one of them is missing the playoffs, and I think
all three of these teams are wildcards. And he looked
at me like I was crazy. Well that leading winning
leading the division now, I mean, but I said this
before you asked me what I take. It was before
kickoff of the regular season. That was my opinion, and
they're leading it now. But again, you know, we'll see
it all how it all shapes out. But it's not
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not scientific. But they just played more football.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Than everybody else.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Kansas City has been what the seven straight AFC championship games.
You add all that in, that's that's like a whole
other football season that these guys have played. But I
just have not been impressed with the down, the the
year to year roster improvement that I think you have
to have. Kansas City's left tackle has been an issue forever.
That get the address with Josh Simmons.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
Josson missed some time for personal issues and not sure
what that's about, but he picked up three penalties this today. Right,
there's just been an issue. The issues that Kansas City
has had has been those issues consistently. And I think
the only shortcoming that I really am giving Patrick Mahomes
here is he's having an inability to overcome the things
that he overcame when he was younger. But to me,
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you should have improved these things around him at this
point in time. You've got the answer at quarterback, you
got to figure it out everywhere else.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
How stunning though, will let's be that they don't make
the playoffs. Will will you look at it as stunning
or not, like you figured that they wouldn't win a division,
But I think you figured they'd make the playoffs, Like well.
Speaker 6 (26:30):
But that's the thing if you when you're playing the
game of That's why so many teams, that's why it's
such a big deal that the Packers trade for Michael
Parsons and the Lions lose their center Frank rag Now
in the same offseason.
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Right. I know, I'm not trying to get two in
the weeds of it.
Speaker 6 (26:46):
But you don't win the division you start to play,
you're playing, you're playing with fire.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Yeah, you could make.
Speaker 6 (26:53):
It at ten and seven, but every single year we
see a team with double digit wins who missed not
make the player. You gotta set up to win the
division every single year. That's why to me, like, if
you start playing with wild card, slaying them in, that's
all because it could be a soft division like the Jaguars.
(27:14):
Between the Jaguars and the Texans, one of them may
be a wildcard. The AFC South is not exactly the
AFC West. Yeah, no, I get it.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, we want to
hear from you. Eight seven seven nine to nine six
sixty three sixty nine. Where are you on the chief
rooting against them? Rooting for them? You still think they
have a chance to make it? How disappointing are you
in their season? Just six and six? Which when was
(27:43):
the last time they lost six games? Can I say it?
Since Moby Dick was a guppy? I mean, seriously, at
least in the Patrick Mahomes he.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
Or six losses.
Speaker 6 (27:53):
I'm being honest, off the top of my head, I
don't think Patrick Mahomes ever lost sixteen.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
No, I agree. I we're not even looking at it.
Six losses. They were fifteen and two last year and
now they're struggling, struggling, struggling big time.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
Are you happy? Sad? Struggling? There you go, Thank you,
Joe Broadway, Joe.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
All right, it is the couple Rob Parker Martin weiss
in for Kelvin Washington on this Thanksgiving night.
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Thank you six games one time. So what year was that?
Two thousand, twenty twenty three? So they were what were they?
They finished ten and six that season in the regular season,
So there it is, went to the AFT champions won
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Well, then year they won ten and six. Crazy, I'm unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
I was gonna say, like six losses and they still
got uh.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Five to go right? Point five to go to the
point they finished ten and six.
Speaker 6 (28:59):
Today is Thanksgiving and they have six losses, right, no doubt?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
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Speaker 2 (30:46):
Rob Parker. Why is it?
Speaker 3 (30:47):
I can just imagine you after your Hall of Fame induction, right,
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That might be the verbiage in that moment. That just
might be. Let's update the score. Seventy three, Baltimore is winning,
Cincinnati has the.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Ball on a Is that a third down play?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
But Cincinnati is It is third play by play, but
I didn't give it twenty seconds left, Cincinnati fall start.
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We can the quiet part out loud.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Rob, they're not playing thanks to Baseball on Thanksgiving. If
there were Thanksgiving Baseball, I wouldn't be here, He'll say,
And you stand a better shot at not being here.
Speaker 2 (32:10):
So I'll let America in on a little secret. But
Rob Parker does.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
He works every holiday, so that way, when it comes
to be I don't know, July thirteenth and he wants
to watch the Cubs and the Brewers playing in Wrigley Field,
he can go. And Scott Sapiro can't say bump because
he worked.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
He's got all of.
Speaker 6 (32:29):
These comp days because he didn't work, because he worked
on Thanksgiving, worked on Christmas, worked on you name it,
New Year's Eve, New Year's Day, you Valentine's Day.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
St. Patrick's Day, you name it.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
Rob Parker will find a way to work as long
as there's not nine innings being played, nearby.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Okay, that's fair. I'm not even gonna dispute that.
Speaker 1 (32:49):
I'd rather take the time off in the summer and
go to the ballpark and hang out with friends and
all that. But I am looking forward to next week.
I'm going to the Lions Cowboys game, which would be interesting.
Where are you on that game? Mark, I'm just curious.
That's a big game in Detroit. The Cowboys offense is fantastic.
(33:09):
They look they are fantastic.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
I really like the Cowboys coming into the season. Actually,
even after making the Michael Parsons trade, do I think now, obviously,
you add Michael Parsons to your team or taking him
away from him, He's gonna make it better or worse,
depending on what you do.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
But the idea that the Cowboys.
Speaker 6 (33:26):
Were just like gonna go away, all right, I'm just
I wasn't there for this was a team that in
the last four years of three years, in the last
three years prior to the year before, he has won
thirty six games twelve.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
And five three Like, this is a double digit win team,
went healthy.
Speaker 6 (33:40):
So I expected with that could be healthy for them
to be around that double digit win team. They really
blew it in Denver and in Green Bay, because this
game should be for them to be really competing for
the top of the NFC East. I think that this
But this game in terms of to the point to
your point earlier about how this is a big loss
for the Lions, this is a game the Lions Cowboys.
(34:02):
I don't know what the Lion is ahead of time.
I think these are two pretty evenly matched teams. Would
not shock me to see either one of these teams,
you know, come out with a touchdown win Like I
wouldn't either both these teams line up good. But now, Lions,
this is the loss that can knock you out of
the playoffs. Where Dallas is looking up like they weren't
expected to make the playoffs. They're they're in the wild
(34:24):
card hunt. They'll stay in the hunt. Winner lose, Lions,
you're in the hunt winner lose too. But it's it's
a lot uglier than it would be if you had
won today.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
It's gonna be like we thought today was a big
game against the Package because they had lost the first Oh,
this is the season.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
This is like the.
Speaker 1 (34:38):
Season will be on the line. I'll be in Detroit
for that one, so I'm looking forward make sure you
finish the job.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
You already know people gonna be like, what are you
doing here? You bad luck rock.
Speaker 1 (34:52):
Right now, whenever I go to Detroit people are nice
to me, So I'm not even gonna play that I've
worked there for twenty years. And for people don't know,
Martin and I worked together in Detroit and came to
LA which Martin, we can't believe December first for me,
I know you came like two weeks later or something.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
When did you get something like that?
Speaker 1 (35:10):
But we're starting. This will be my tenth year. And
look at so much that has happened since you came
to Los Angeles. You got a master's degree from USC
you got married. I mean, I can't get over what
like the nine years. Think about all these life changing
things that have happened.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
You got a.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
National radio show on the weekend. Matter of fact, you
should plug that. And what time you're listening to it?
Speaker 6 (35:35):
It's to me and Martin, if you listen to Fox
Sports Radio on Saturday, you can't miss your boy because
I'm here.
Speaker 2 (35:42):
I'm here not only doing I'm here up.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
But what time is your show on it? I'm here
it's five to eight. When when you says.
Speaker 6 (35:49):
Five to eight Pacific, now eight to eleven Eastern. Whatever, Yeah,
five to eight, eight to eleven. Me and Manzi Blanos,
the two two way players here at Fox Sports Radio.
They put us together on a show. All right, there
you go.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
Every Saturday, eleven to what is it, eight to eleven
christ eight to eleven Eastern.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
All right, this is the best ad ever been done.
There you go.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
I just wanted to give you some props, okay for
the show. But let's go here with the Ravens, and
I know, I mean Martin. They started one to five.
They were giving up forty points. If you remember, they
gave up a game in which they scored forty points
in Buffalo to start the season.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
It's forty to twenty four. And then Josh Allen put
the k born exactly and it was a horrific loss.
They gave up.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
The Texans couldn't score touchdowns to save their lives. The
Texans scored forty, the Lions scored thirty eight. Everybody was
beating the Ravens like a drum. And now we look up,
we're at Thanksgiving and they lead the division, the AFC North.
They lead the division, right, and they beat the Bengals
(36:57):
here tonight in Baltimore. All of a sudden, they're seven
and five and have a great I just think.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
There's something to be said about this.
Speaker 1 (37:08):
The last few years, Marten, they've won a lot of
games regular season, unbelievable there, thirteen wins.
Speaker 2 (37:16):
Whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
This might be their path where the pressure's off because
of what where the season started, and they could build
and go forward without the pressure of being the number
one seed and is Lamar finally gonna get there and
people counting them out. They're not on the radar like that.
People know that they're still good, but that start to
the season kind of put them on the back burner.
Speaker 2 (37:39):
Where are you on the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (37:41):
Yeah, they put them on the back burner, But the
problem is that the holes too big, Like I don't
see the Ravens and I go to that they're right
there with the Steelers, and I know that six and
five and six and five real looking to those records
and they're both the same. This Ravens team to me
is not as they're not to me markedly better than
the Steelers. When I look at him, I think when
(38:02):
you look at Lamar Jackson's obviously incredible. He has not
been the same type of player that he has been
in years past. The lower body injuries are really impacting
his ability to move. I just think the Ravens dug
themselves too far of a whole to make themselves real
contenders this year. And it's a shame because the rest
of the AFC looks like it's gettable. But that one
in five start needs to be a two and three
(38:23):
start or three and two start for me to really
believe in this team.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
See, I think that it doesn't matter how you start,
it's how you finish. And I think that they have
an opportunity because we know what the talent is.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
I'm sticking with my pick.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
My original pick before the season was the Green Bay
Packers and the Baltimore Ravens. I do believe when you
look at the AFC, that they can come out of
the AFC, especially if we got we're gonna knock the
Chiefs out right, And now I don't know, Buffalo is
not nearly as good. I don't think this year, and
(39:00):
we're looking at what Denver, you're looking at who else
in the AFC.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
The Chargers sure they.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
Can't beat those two teams, like like I'm just saying,
like off the rip, if Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs
are out of the way, and maybe Buffalo, you know,
Buffalo is not gonna win the division, right and they're
gonna be on Newland, it.
Speaker 2 (39:17):
Should close it.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
It will likely be New England. But my issue is
just saying, I just the Chiefs. I mean, the Ravens
had to make the playoffs, like that's the thing that
they're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
They could win the division, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (39:29):
Like when they started one and five, now this is
not They called that they've just got to beat the
Steelers out.
Speaker 6 (39:35):
But I don't they still but they still played the
Steelers twice to hell, they have to win today.
Speaker 2 (39:39):
They like these like they are neck and neck with
the Steelers, is my point to me. And this do
you think's gonna win a division between those two? Are you?
I had picked Pittsburgh to start again.
Speaker 6 (39:50):
I was down on all three of the the I'm sorry, Ravens, Bills,
and Chiefs to start the season. So I had picked
Pittsburgh already at like ten and seven. I just didn't
expect either one of these teams to run away with
anything because I thought Pittsburgh had gotten a little bit better,
but all their additions are so old that it's hard
to manage. But the thing that's tricky for Baltimore right now,
(40:14):
the thing that's tough for Baltimore is the bottom of
the AFC North doesn't look like it did the first
for the first six weeks of the year. Low Joe
Burrow's back in Cincinnati. I don't expect that team to
be a team that now goes on a run. But
as we see right now, started the second quarter or
five minutes in the second quarter, it's a one point game.
Then those division matchups, anything can happen. That's what I
(40:36):
think expect. Do you expect the Bengals to win in
Baltimore to night?
Speaker 2 (40:39):
I do.
Speaker 6 (40:39):
I expect to win this game going into it before
we took the end.
Speaker 2 (40:43):
Don't think they're weird talking about the Ravens are a
weird team.
Speaker 1 (40:46):
They get off to really slow starts and then before
you know what, they score two or three touchdown.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I hear you.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
It hasn't been that impressive, so I get it, but
I still think I still like the Ravens. I want
to hear what you think. Martin is out on the Ravens.
I'm in on the Ravens. I think they have a path.
This might be the year they finally could get to
the super Bowl because the pressure's off somewhat, but the
expectations have been way lowered with the one in five start.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
Where are you on the Ravens? You in on the
Ravens or out on the Ravens?
Speaker 1 (41:18):
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