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December 18, 2025 38 mins

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The guys open the hour by discussing Rams wide receiver Puka Nacua, who is once again in the headlines after apologizing for antisemitic gestures he made during a live stream. then they look at Seattle quarterback Sam Darnold, diving into whether the journeyman has a place in the NFL and if he can be considered an elite QB. Finally, in another edition of Shop Talk, Producer Shay takes the guys on a trip back to their childhoods.

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Speaker 3 (02:31):
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Speaker 6 (02:47):
Welcome in my co host.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Kelvin Kelvin Washington, Kevin.

Speaker 6 (02:53):
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Speaker 3 (02:55):
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Speaker 3 (03:10):
Yo? Too soon? Top it?

Speaker 6 (03:13):
Okay, man, I want I've had TV things on Thursday.
Your favorite, Moncey's favorite, tysher Tower trivia coming up a
little bit. We got a lot to do. Just picked
up my folks from the airport. So family's in town,
feeling good. Shot to Shaye in the building. So the
holidays started. Are they in the car listener to the show?

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Yeah? Man, you know they're big fans of the show,
big fans of the show.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
Who's your wife?

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Is she on? I didn't say my wife?

Speaker 6 (03:39):
Now she in the car?

Speaker 3 (03:40):
What time is word for? Yeah? I meant you not
with them, we said, fans of the show. She's not.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
I know she hates it.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
She's like, it.

Speaker 6 (03:48):
Pays the bill, so she Alex, she absolutely hates it.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
She used to like RD I know, not anymore, not
that she hears me on the show. She's like, I
can't stand that guy doing it by them the church every.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Time the church. I tell her, he said no, she said,
thank God, thanks take God. I think I know his
daughters would spit on me if they saw me.

Speaker 6 (04:08):
No, Kennedy was swinging my oldest was she's about that
life for me, my oldest. Yeah, and the little one
leader like Bernie recipes Bertie Man four years, she's the burnie.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Yes, she is the ring leader. She would try to
kick me to knock the other tooth out on the
other side. I'm just saying they need to even out.

Speaker 3 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, sorry, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
We got a lot to get to today. Let's welcome
in the Odd Couple crew because you wouldn't be able
to do this fine radio program without him.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
Of course, is our.

Speaker 5 (04:39):
Engineer behind the curter, my favorite one more time.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
Love It.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Behind the Curter, Love It, Shae.

Speaker 2 (04:49):
The official Odd Couple side piece.

Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's right again, that like the.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Official Odd Couple side piece. Shay.

Speaker 5 (04:58):
You never thought you'd be a side peace for anybody,
did you?

Speaker 9 (05:01):
No?

Speaker 3 (05:01):
I always thought I was the main guy.

Speaker 5 (05:03):
You would have made me like I'm signing right.

Speaker 6 (05:05):
You thought he would no compund Russell sprouts out here,
you went to steak, Hey, what what's going well?

Speaker 3 (05:11):
How much long are we growing hair out here in
the streets? Dude?

Speaker 8 (05:14):
My my hairstylence is gone. She's actually she works on
set for movies and stuff like that. So she's gone
right now, and I don't trust anyone else.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
I don't know what to do. Take it, take a scissor,
trim the back, get it. I got it, and then
you know, give him a nice wash of shampoo and
then braid it.

Speaker 3 (05:30):
I'll just recommend him Robbie's guy.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
You know it, well, Robbie, Robbie's guy.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Remember he got some snips. That's all that step. No, no,
you don't want that because you might take too much.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Of Shae has a lot of non snipping ahead of him,
right exactly.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
Do not allow that.

Speaker 6 (05:45):
And by the way, Sha, have you ever sounded any
more Hollywood? It's trade like she like cuts hair like
my mom's friend. She cuts hair on like movie sets
in La We're like Holly would and stuff and superstars.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
She's doing a marwful movie.

Speaker 6 (05:58):
I know, guy's ever heard of Marble movies? Yeah, it's crazy,
Like right now, she's got to do Ryan Gosling. But
I think she's gonna schedule me for that.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
He's actually she's actually doing Marvel.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
She has a great job because I think she cuts
Iron Man's hair.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
That's the easy one, easy to do. Yeah, he ain't
got no hair. I'm sorry, but she gonna.

Speaker 6 (06:14):
Cut yours one more day, one more day. I'm talking
what I'm talking, smack. I need one to not like me.
I need I gotta go see. Uh should I do it?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Should I get a Chris baw Die job to or.

Speaker 6 (06:32):
No, please don't look at me. Let me actually see
what you would look like? Okay, hypothetically speaking Robbie at here,
so we can we can go on a little bit.
Robbie's rolling around at the house. Oh no, he's already.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
Let's take this the second segment. All right, let's just
keep going. If we're not even gonna break, let's go.

Speaker 6 (06:47):
Just roll it through. If you did die the top,
would you keep the beer gray? Or would you die
the beer gray and keep the I mean black and
then the top?

Speaker 3 (06:56):
Like, would you do the whole thing? How would you
do it?

Speaker 1 (06:58):
If you did it, yeah, I wouldn't do it it okay,
but what it would have to match?

Speaker 5 (07:02):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (07:03):
It wouldn't look weird to have the gray beard and
the kind of top ladies like the gray beard.

Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, but with a black hair. Like it'll look fair.

Speaker 6 (07:13):
The beard is super cris saying like we have all
black hair, and then you got because we're saying black
when I say ray.

Speaker 3 (07:18):
Lewis, yeah, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 6 (07:20):
You know what's saying nice? Really it's actually like a
dark brown he would do. All right, anyway, we've cured it.

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Speaker 3 (08:00):
Kelvin.

Speaker 5 (08:00):
You know that the story l a story as well
because of.

Speaker 6 (08:03):
The rams pooka pooka. I was waiting for you to like,
somebody could cool there you go, bless you. It's like
a girl you went to high school with you remember
in Nikola, Yeah, your sister.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I always remember the Greek girl I went to elementary school.

Speaker 6 (08:23):
Rob Caution, what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Did you want? What was her name?

Speaker 1 (08:26):
Sally Papadopoulos? She was Greek on second grade. I'm saying Papadopoulos.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah, you were saying Earl that, and now you can't
say Nicola at har Road Nicola.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
But anyway, Uh, what's happened?

Speaker 6 (08:39):
Well, Pooka Nkula obviously in a couple of a couple
of things happening. Obviously we were talking about well three
really talked about the refs yesterday.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
And then his brother, which was a whole other thing.

Speaker 6 (08:49):
But he got in trouble because he was hanging out
on a podcast doing a live stream, which already could
get you in trouble, and he did what people are
deeming an anti Semitic trope and so on the podcast
essential they were like, hey man, you know what you
new next celebration should be? And he went and they
went ahead and showed him and he did it. And
you know, I don't have to redo it, but he
did it. He don't, Yeah, And so he claims that

(09:12):
he did not know what it was, he did not
mean to offend anyone, And be honest with you, I
actually believe him. I was talking to Shay about this.
I don't think spookause what twenty six or seven?

Speaker 3 (09:22):
I'm sorry?

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Here here, here's my thing. Yeah, so you're a trained seal.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
Somebody tells me that somebody tells you to do something
and you don't know what it is, and you wouldn't
ask first what is this?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
What are you?

Speaker 6 (09:36):
What are you asking me to do? Because I've never
seen it.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I don't know what this is. That's all I'm saying
is that because you're.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
On a live stream and some kids who live in
their mother's basement ask you to do something that you
have no idea what you're doing, you just automatically.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
Do you get my point? Here's the thing.

Speaker 6 (09:56):
I'm gonna say, yes, I'm with you, and you shouldn't.
But I'm going to say yes, kids do.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
But you're not a kid.

Speaker 5 (10:04):
And here's my thing.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
You represent the city of Los Angeles, the franchise, the RAMS,
and the NFL. That's why there are statements from both
the RAMS and the NFL, because you are not.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Three guys in the basement having fun and friends.

Speaker 1 (10:23):
You represent other people at all times while you're wearing.

Speaker 5 (10:29):
That RAMS and you're in the NFL.

Speaker 6 (10:31):
That's all I'm saying, I don't disagree that, and that's
why here lies the challenge for this generation. You and
I grew up with in the back of your I
didn't even know you when you were ten to twenty
years old, but you know what I already know in
the back of your head, even when you were doing
some things, one thing that you thought about Mama and

(10:52):
Daddy can't know, or I can't make the family look bad,
or I can't let somebody see this. And we had
an ounce of that. We had an ounce of, oh,
you know, let me do, even if it was doing
some dirt, do it on the low. And these kids,
he's twenty four that they grew up with nothing but
the opposite. Hey, I'm John Morant. Let me show you
my gun online. And it's no excuse I'm saying, that's

(11:13):
the reality. So what you're saying is right, Hey, hold
on on, whatcha got me doing? I'm a professional RAMS
player and he's looking at it as I'm hanging out
with the bros. It just happens to be on a massive,
big time live stream. They don't think like you and
I grew up. We grew up thinking think about this.
Rob if you were about to do something dumb and
somebody put a camera in your face back and we'd.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Be like, oh, hold on now, but Bonnie, Bonnie think
I hear you, but I think you're letting them off
the hood. No, no, no, I'm saying that from the
standpoint of somebody asking you to do something you don't
under You don't understand what is this you're asking me
to do. That's the only question. Here's my following, And
then they'd have to explain to me what this is.
I don't know what this is?

Speaker 3 (11:51):
Is this you know what I mean?

Speaker 6 (11:53):
Like, I don't know what this Here's the trouble with that.
He just did it like you're train see And here's
where I get what you're saying. But again, if you
don't know what they're doing, it looks very simpler, like, oh,
people do that all the time. I'm with you, but
I'm saying, here's the trouble. Here's the trouble that Pukah's
gonna have to realize and a lot of young athletes
are gonna have to realize. There's a phrase in the

(12:14):
streets is called don't let them trick you off the streets,
and what that means is, don't let people, don't let idiots,
don't let jealous people, don't let them trick you off
your spot. Don't let them trick you and get you
locked up in his case, get your suspended, get you fine,
get you in trouble, become a distraction, and arguably the
biggest game of their season where they're competing with Chance, which.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Is exactly the wind up, exactly what we wind up
being a distraction tonight and the.

Speaker 6 (12:40):
Biggest game for the division and also potentially number one
seed the conference. So this is an example of letting
some dweeby little idiots on live stream trick you out
of them.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
You know who knows what ramifications. That also tells you
about just going on anybody's shot. Agree, okay, Like, like,
here's the problem. You're not an average joe. You're not
an eighteen year old in the basement with some people
goofing off.

Speaker 5 (13:06):
You're a pro athlete, you have all kinds of other
things that you you represent. And I just mentioned it.

Speaker 1 (13:12):
The NFL has a statement, Yeah they did, and I
read it and the ram I want you to read both.
I won't read just for the length of it all,
but you know, what I mean.

Speaker 6 (13:21):
This is coming from the League, the continuing The League
said it condemns all forms of discrimination derogatory behavior directed
towards any group of individual. The continuing rise of anti
sympitism must be addressed across the world. In the NFL
will continue to stand with our partners in this fight.
Last line, hatred has no place in our sport or society.
Didn't we just have a horrific thing in Australia be

(13:42):
we just had it. We just had it where they
killed all these June people in Australia. It was a
nine I think it was nine people. But yes, a
lot of people killed in Australia on.

Speaker 3 (13:53):
The first day.

Speaker 6 (13:56):
They were targeted, right, they were targeted, cellar, it was
a Honkah celebration in Australia. And uh and in case
to your point, and so now this is where you
have to think, were they trolling me? You get what
I'm saying? Where they like obviously they were like they're
doing something knowing the sensitivity where we are right now.

Speaker 1 (14:14):
This is what they did was they said, this guy
is smart, We'll have him do something. Bro do this
and you know what the trouble is and that and
that's really where it came from. It was danger about
dangerous about this Robert. We've talked about it before. Guess
who loses in this, Pookah. Guess who can potentially win

(14:34):
in them?

Speaker 6 (14:35):
Those other guys because they don't have bosses like he does,
they're not held accountable like he is, like a corporation,
work for a newspaper, id crazy in your column exactly.
They had to come back and either say Rob Parker
is suspended or he's or make you apologize. God, no, yeah,
it happens.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I know.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
And that's what I'm saying, and I you it's an inevitability.
And what I'm just saying, my biggest thing is people
make mistakes. But are you a trained seal that you
just do on command what somebody told you to do?

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Do you?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
Do?

Speaker 9 (15:07):
You?

Speaker 3 (15:07):
That's the part I hear. I get you.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
I just think that's the part that I just don't
like you claim you don't you don't know what it was,
So why were you doing it?

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Because these are the bros bros?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Or just we're just having fun?

Speaker 6 (15:21):
That's the answer. I'm not it's not a good answer.
It's not appealing. And you're right, pook Now, what happens?
Who can now learn that lesson, not everybody has your
best interest at heart? All right, some people will trow you,
they'll mess with you because it's an advantage to them.
Now everybody's going to their website. Will let me see
the clip leg looking click mat.

Speaker 1 (15:38):
And actually, now all these people are gonna see this
thing and brought more attention to this thing that that
people shouldn't be doing against your anti semitism eight seven
to seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine nine,
six sixty three sixty nine.

Speaker 5 (15:55):
Your thoughts, Pookah.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Was he just duped?

Speaker 6 (15:58):
Was he.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Naive in order to put this in and do this?

Speaker 6 (16:04):
The response from the NFL, the RAMS, was it the
right response to those gods get in trouble?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
That's I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Nothing's gonna happen to them? They got you say, they don't.
They probably don't belong to any They might lose a
sponsor or something if they had.

Speaker 5 (16:16):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
They're kind of big, They're okay.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
But the idea who is to blame mostly is it
the guys asking him to do it? Or is it
Pooka because you did something you did.

Speaker 3 (16:28):
Not know you were doing on a live stream not
in the just hanging out the basement.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
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Who's that? Alight? So unfortunately, as us as we don't
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Kadon what hold on? First of all, rot to turn
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Christmas time. You hear that hot e Verrobrado up in
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Okay, you see the way he perked up. Don't ever
that's that is officially the most ruined compliment ever. Now
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Speaker 3 (19:08):
That too soon? Yeah? Listen too soon? Bro. I feel
so bad for him because he didn't do nothing.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
He just turned her out to get a trophy. And
now he turned around. Hey man, what's going on back there?

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (19:21):
Hey, all right, and shop talk.

Speaker 6 (19:23):
We got that well, Shaye, what's shake cooking up?

Speaker 3 (19:25):
Coming up? Shay?

Speaker 6 (19:27):
You look like first You're too young to Knowice Robb
will get this. You look like Rambo first Blood, like
the first Rambo or two the Yeah. Like all you
need is a little band little ram bandan around your head.

Speaker 3 (19:36):
It's a mullet. I think I got like a mullet you.
It's usually done.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
You look like I'm telling you, I watched the Slide
documentary a few weeks ago. You look like the first
Rambo right now.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
I'll take it as a compliment. Yeah, I think I
think it's a compe. I think somewhere in there was
a compliment. Yeah, I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
So we got a lot to do. We got the
big game coming up.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
By kickoff is what twenty minutes away or something? Like
that Thursday night foot what is this streaming on now?
We talked about that that I can't keep up Peacock's
Amazon Primes, Yeah Prime on Thursday. Super the Oscars gonna
be on YouTube. But but you know, here we go,
and this reminds me very much of last year.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Right now because Sam Ronald McDonald is the quarterback for Seattle.
They're eleven and three going for last year around the
same time, it was like the second to last game
of the year, right or last game of the year, Yeah, Sam,
But yeah, like was playing Alliance. It wasn't at home

(20:36):
where this game is.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
It was on the road.

Speaker 1 (20:39):
They went in the red zone a number of times
to start the game, they couldn't get in the end zone,
and they wound up losing that game. And it was
that where I thought he had had an unbelievable year
because what they finished fourteen.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
And three, fourteen and three. Now I think it was
them Lions and the Packers are all fourteen something like that.
They were close to fourteen to three. It was crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
But he had a bad game and then he had
a bad game in the playoffs against the Rams, and
that became the beginning of the end of him in Minnesota.
For a lot of reasons, Ay already had a quarterback
who they had drafted. They moved up in the draft
to draft him. I get all that, but it didn't
Again it was Sam Donald played great all year and

(21:23):
then the two biggest games he turned in the stinker.
And I just I still don't buy into Sam Donald.
There's so much bad juju video out there that I
can see if he has a stinker tonight or doesn't
play well, I think people will buy into the idea that,

(21:44):
you know what, he can win games. He can put
up numbers, but he can't win any big games. And
I think that this could stick with him.

Speaker 6 (21:53):
Now.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
If he blows out the rams and plays really well,
then that'll change as normal.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
But I'm just saying he's the thirty.

Speaker 6 (22:01):
But it's always like for me, it's usually one of
the other.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
What I mean my dad is he can play normal
and throw one bad interception that leads to them losing.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
Okay, that is very possible.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Okay, so you could have two touchdowns whatever, and then
in the fourth quarter when the game's on the line,
throw a bad pig and then they people go see
he can't win the big game.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's what I mean.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
So here's where I will agree that Sam Donald has
to exercise the demons. He has demons, and he does
and he has to exercise those demons and realize you
don't have to make that play right now. Sometimes I've
heard some defenders, defensive coordinators and people talk about, you know, analysts,
that he freaks out and he reverts back to the

(22:43):
old him at times and he has to get out
of that and realize, Yo, you've actually been a good
quarterback the last two years of your life. And so
where you say, and I totally got it. More so
last year the Hey, there's a lot of bad tape
on him. No one could argue that. Even Sam Donald
couldn't argue that. The difference is now with two different teams,
two different franchises, you've had almost the identical season. So

(23:07):
this season, well, let's go last year. Last year with
the Vikings fourteen and three in a really good division,
he has sixty six percent completion percentage, forty three hundred yards,
thirty five touchdowns, twelve interceptions, quarterback rating of one hundred
and two. This year sixty seven percent percentage thirty four
hundred yards. So you'll end up right around there. Give
it take a touch downs down and touchdowns are down

(23:29):
some and interceptions is right there. He'll have what three games,
So let's say he gets six more, so he'll be
down maybe six ish touchdowns, give it two.

Speaker 5 (23:36):
But he also could add three more.

Speaker 6 (23:39):
Great, so your numbers are down some quarterback rating is exactly,
say one hundred and two is one two point five
last year. So why I'm going with this is I
do think the tape on him has become he can
lead a franchise. As long as there are pieces around
him and you have good you have a good team.
So the Seahawks have a good defense, they run the
ball and well enough. Obviously he's got star receiver in
jsn Uh so.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
He is proven.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Now, Rob, I think we have good tape on him
that he can be a franchise quarterback. He can lead
a team. Now, is he exceptional?

Speaker 8 (24:09):
You know?

Speaker 6 (24:10):
Is he that upper echelon? Is he Joe Burrow went
healthy or Josh Allen or Matthew Stafford even No, But
I think he's more than capable of leading a franchise.
And that's to me real quick. Where the Vikings I
think mistakingly got rid of him too early. J. J.
Mccarthur is still early. I will be the first to
say it's still early. I don't believe in like one

(24:31):
year that you we got to see they played a
great game last week. It was amazing, but he's had
horrific all time worst games ever. Then he'll bounce back
with a solid one and and he's done that. He
might have had the biggest game of the year beating
the LNG in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (24:44):
Yeah, well, that that drives me crazy.

Speaker 6 (24:46):
I agree that that is the one that's you've you've
heard me say it on and that's the game that
you kind of check, Okay, we get this one and
you don't get that one.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
That's the one that that on.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Now you keep the Lions out of under playoffs, you'll
look and go, we lost to the Vikings in Detroit,
but he was Slipper's still gonna play the Vikings in
Minnesota and in Chicago.

Speaker 6 (25:07):
Yep, yeah, and uh Pittsburgh this week. So they got Pittsburgh, Vikings,
Chicago all winnable. But you didn't give yourself any slack
as well. So what I'm saying is I think the
Vikings where I've always been was they missed out on
having a guy that they could have got for a
relatively good price, for a guy who can win you
ten to eleven to fourteen games.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I think they missed out on that.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
I think that I think this is where me and
you re disagree is it's not just about winning regular
season games. The reason that Jared Golf is not in
Los Angeles is not that he didn't win those games.

Speaker 3 (25:43):
He did.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
He actually led them to the super Bowl, Okay, but
they didn't believe he could win the big game. That
is a that that's a reason the Rams move a
quarterback that got you to the super Bowl, that had
the fifth greatest offense of all time the year did
he win? He went to two Pro Bowls. Like, let's
not act like Jared Goff didn't do anything in Los Angeles.

(26:06):
They didn't believe in him, and that is the belief.
They didn't believe in Sam Donald after that one year.
They thought, dude, Okay, he had weapons, he had a
running game, he had a defense. We could almost put
anybody in there and still kind of get there. Okay,
And I I give you JJ McCarthy's a rookie and
that first year and all that, but that's the difference

(26:27):
where Sam Donald doesn't have any leeway because if he
has a stinker here and they losing the playoffs and
he dies, I'm just saying people will go back and see,
that's why we can't rely on him. That's why we
can't sign him to a big, real contract where he's
gonna be around and we know what we got for
the next five years.

Speaker 6 (26:47):
Here's because of.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Those things, and that's why Jared Golf is in Detroit.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
I don't.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
But here's where I push back on that. You're right
that they had it because they had an opportunity to
get someone who I think universally everyone will say is
better Matthew Stafford. So if you're Minnesota and you're letting
Sam Donald go because you're getting Matthew Stafford like his
remember remember he wasn't almost around this something. Yeah, and
if you're getting Matthew Stafford, then I'd okay with that.

(27:12):
I see, I disagree with you from this standpoint. They
wanted to get rid of and Stafford became available. They
wanted to get rid of Jared Goff because Stafford coming
into that had not won.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
A playoff game, and the point was we.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Have all of these things already.

Speaker 3 (27:35):
We're not trying to.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
If Matthew Stafford showed up there and the Rams had
not been to the Super Bowl, then I would buy
your argument. But that's not what happened. They had already
gotten there with a quarterback.

Speaker 6 (27:45):
That's he's the one that can get him over the hull.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
No, but they But my point is that Jared Goff
got sent off because they didn't believe in him. And
I'm telling you that the reason that Sam Donald got
sent off wasn't because of JJ McCarthy only, it was
because they didn't believe.

Speaker 6 (28:03):
I don't he can get I don't know that that's
what he's more. He's more like.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
Jared Golf in this situation than Matthew Stafford, is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (28:13):
And I don't Here's what I'm saying. I don't disagree.
I don't think Sam Donald's in that upper echeline. What
I'm saying is I don't want to get rid of
Sam Donald, who has been really good now for two
years for nothing. Meaning if I'm getting rid of him
and I have a Matthew Stafford or Justin Herbert was
available or something like that, you go, hey man, thank you,
appreciating man, wishing you all the best. Totally would get that.
I'm not letting this guy go who threw thirty five

(28:34):
touchdowns sweven interceptions of.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
When the games mattered the most, he didn't. He didn't play.

Speaker 6 (28:40):
And I can bounce back again because he just bounced
back again. And now he's sitting here at eleven and three,
whereas I'm not with you.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Just saw the last game where he couldn't even get
a touchdown at home, and Matthew Stafford has game river
last year.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
Matthew Stafford had a stretch because you kept bring it up,
they had a stretch where they couldn't score it.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
No, I I know.

Speaker 6 (28:57):
And my point is that does happen from time to
time where you a gate what is going on the Eagles?
We set up here for a week at the week
after the week of the week. Why can't the Eagles
score but they're winning? Why can't the Eagles it this
but there winning?

Speaker 1 (29:06):
Why can't they know what the difference the difference is
they had already won the differences that Stafford before one.

Speaker 3 (29:14):
No, no, no, the last year counts to for Sam
And that's okay.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
So if you're telling when you start looking at it,
you start looking at him. There's a question mark there.
That's why go look at the contract they gave him.
They even gave him in Seattle a bogus contract.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Right, what you thinking about to get down a bogus
contract unless unless he has to go, they're gonna get
They're gonna add it. No, they're not twenty his last
thirty one games. Sam Donald is twenty five and six.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
You know what he is, twenty game and thirty one
in his last thirty one games, he's zero and two.
That's his record to me to UH Minnesota and no
thirty one games.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
He's all asked the question. Answer to that answers, well,
I know, I'm just saying. You don't think Sam Donald
in Minnesota right now is sitting there competing in the
NFC North to win that division. Why what has changed?

Speaker 5 (30:08):
Because there's other teams there now. The whole division is tough.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
I don't know the.

Speaker 6 (30:14):
Lions were coming down well, but they did come right
when I'm saying this, so meaning the Lions aren't last year.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
This is not last year where they had the AFC
South or whatever that weak division they had where they
all won fourteen games.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
That ain't he's even in a rivaling tough division. You
maybe could even say his division that was even tougher
than then he's eleven three.

Speaker 3 (30:34):
It's not not.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
I have confident it's not gonna buy into him, and
I'm okay with that is Sam Darnold, And when he
wins the Super Bowl, I'll raise my hand.

Speaker 6 (30:41):
And so what I'm saying, but I don't believe that
he's that different. I don't you only operate in the
absolute meaning, he's got to be Joe Montana. I'm saying,
I there ain't but trying to win them guys.

Speaker 3 (30:53):
No, but it's only three or four there.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
Trying to win.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
And every time there's a big game, you lay an egg.
If he plays well tonight, I'll give him credit because
this is a big guess. And if he plays poorly tomorrow,
me and you will argue and I'll say this is
why I don't buy an Sam. But I'm saying the
conversation will have tomorrow. So you general manager Parker in
Minnesota is stuck with J. J.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
McCarthy.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Yeah, but he's still a young player who you believed,
who you believed in why you moved up to draft
him and you feel you could develop him.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Okay, you took a step back this year, So you
don't give him any credit for going to a completely
different organization across the country, brand new everything, losing guys,
losing DK Metcalf, everybody who he went there, and you
lost your number one web and now you see her
at eleven people, no higher conference, because you know you
don't give him any credit for that.

Speaker 5 (31:39):
No, because it ain't about that. It's about what does
he do now?

Speaker 1 (31:44):
The reason he's not in Minnesota is because he didn't
beat the Lions even though they were in the red
zone the first four possessions of that game. Okay, they
were in the red zone. It wasn't like they couldn't
move the ball or the Lion stopped him, you know
what I mean, Cole. No, he couldn't make the plays
that needed to be made, and that situation, I'm just
saying tonight will be another example.

Speaker 3 (32:03):
All right? Eight seven? So are you.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
Screwed then because you don't like Matthew Stafford or Sam Donald,
I'm not screwed at all. Eight seven, seven ninety nine.
Or if they both just have horrible games, you'll be
happy both throw three four interceptions yeah, and then.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
It's a running a running back and wins the game.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
You'll be so happy?

Speaker 5 (32:19):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine On Fox?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Are You so?

Speaker 1 (32:22):
Kelvin believes that Sam Donald will win Seattle or Super Bowl?

Speaker 5 (32:27):
And I'm not buying into it. I don't think he
can win a big playoff game. Where are you on?
Sam Donald? Has he convinced you?

Speaker 1 (32:34):
Are you sold all the way? You're cool with him?
You believe in him? Because I don't believe in him
at this point. He's got to show me eight seven
seven ninety nine On Fox, It is The Odd Couple
on a TV theme song Thursday, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington,
Stick and.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Stay because whatever Kelvin's selling, robbing and buying and.

Speaker 9 (32:55):
The US be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Rob Parker In Kelvin Washington weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
It is the Odd Cover Rock Parker Kevina Washington on
a TV Things on Thursday. Right now, you got a
seven to three lead. The uh Seahawks are up on
the rams, getting ready to punt. Here still think midway
through the first.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
That's from the Grinch wrapped him around the waist, no
call nothing.

Speaker 6 (33:24):
Yeah, but they ran. They passed two times on second, one, third,
and one they passed both time.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
What do you do understand that? Yeah?

Speaker 6 (33:29):
One, yah, I get it one because it's like all
we got options. Two times you pass on second and
third and one's Tracy on that all right. Don't forget
if you're missing today's show that they shouldn't have not
liked him in rented. Uh, you're gonna want to catch
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have it up. Shad's working on it, so go check
that out. It's time now for Shop Talk.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
Ain't nobody's nip being a bum shop?

Speaker 4 (33:52):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Ain't nobody you talking about whoever whatever whatever you want
to in the bus?

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Wait, you know it's shop telling me all right, shape
what you got?

Speaker 8 (34:01):
Welcome into shop Talk, supposedly to Kelvin. I need a haircut,
so that's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
I'm here to I we we we do.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
I need to.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
I'm getting one tomorrow morning, nine am.

Speaker 6 (34:19):
Can I come with you?

Speaker 3 (34:21):
You never been no black barbershop. I mean, no, I
go to salon.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
Me tell you something. Being in the barbershop business. Yes,
you have to cut everybody's hair. I know that's what
people will be about, you know that. Yes, So when
my nephew got his license, he had to actually for
his final haircut, he had to cut a white guy's
hair in order to pass. Yeah, because you can't discriminate,
like somebody come in, I don't know how to cut

(34:47):
your No.

Speaker 6 (34:48):
By the way, even I feel like I got like,
I think they could deal with this.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
Man.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
You're supposed to know how to deal with you.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
Come out of there. You're gonna be walking around, you
gonna be shaved.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:02):
I want to get lines through my head and I
want to get like the design.

Speaker 11 (35:05):
You up, you walk out of it. Talk Robbie streaming
at us, right, Robi police, what if this is the shop?

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Talk? Yeah, go ahead, what's your shop? But here we go.

Speaker 8 (35:21):
SpongeBob the movie coming out tonight. You'll be able to
watch it across the street if you want to watch it.
Rob But this makes me think, guys, cartoons, there's movies
all around.

Speaker 3 (35:31):
They're turning them.

Speaker 8 (35:32):
I remember two weeks ago they did a Rugrats movie
a couple of months ago, they did some other movie.
Cartoons are getting turned into movies all the time, lazy, lazy, Well, Rob,
I was about to say, maybe not cartoons for you.
Maybe it was like a picture book or something. But
we'll see.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
I was gonna ask you, guys, you know what that
teacher position we're talking about?

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Oh yeah, again he's dead, dude.

Speaker 3 (35:55):
But it leads you to this question. Okay, here we go.

Speaker 8 (35:58):
What cartoon or picture book would you want to get
turned into a movie?

Speaker 3 (36:04):
Calvin, Well, we gotta.

Speaker 12 (36:06):
Got SpongeBob square pants, SpongeBob square past.

Speaker 6 (36:16):
I'm thinking shap like a fish, SpongeBob square SpongeBob square pants,
SpongeBob square pants, SpongeBob square Pants, SpongeBob square Pants.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Now, Rob, laugh without your mouth covered.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
I had to cover because you know, they did all
like the ones I grew up like he Man became one,
Transformers became one.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
Was there a Thundercat movie? I don't think. Maybe, yeah,
I forgot your little yeng.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
Maybe that's the answer, Thundercat, because all the ones I
I I enjoy growing up have become movies. So maybe
this Thundercat I don't know what.

Speaker 3 (37:00):
Yeah, I don't. I'll look it up. But Other Cats
was kind of late.

Speaker 6 (37:03):
Yeah, all of all of what I would say has
been made into.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
Oh so good.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
Bob's Burgers already has a movie. Yeah, I can't think
of another hit. This is a cartoon that I liked
that did not become a movie.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Yeah, what can you think of? Easy? I want fairly
Odd Parents movie.

Speaker 6 (37:21):
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
That's a good one. Did they do a hat an
old movie?

Speaker 3 (37:25):
No, I don't know, had to have one.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
No, No, I don't think he had a movie.

Speaker 3 (37:29):
They didn't have a movie.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
They did not, they did not.

Speaker 8 (37:32):
I really want to at an Eddie movie. I don't
know if that's if you guys are maybe too Yeah, yeah,
what plank?

Speaker 3 (37:39):
That was so good?

Speaker 6 (37:40):
Trying to think is there any other big cartoon.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Maybe like a forty yeah, pop bye, there you go.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
Oh yeah, well, Robin Williams recipe that was terrible.

Speaker 8 (37:51):
That's I'm sorry, Robin, Ralph Bakshi the old cartoon guy.

Speaker 6 (37:57):
I feel like something routed by Rob.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
Don't know how you know that.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
Actually you should know what that is. I can't really
say the movie on the air, but I'll tell you
guys about it. I feel like Popeye was an addict
and they just hit it with spinach, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
He might have been hitting them.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
I don't know, man, he might have been off that
signs saying he was off the other greens, but olive
oil was skinny. I mean, who wants so she was
off that olive oil
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