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December 25, 2025 38 mins

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Rob Parker and Andy Furman, filling in for Kelvin Washington, bring you a special Christmas Day edition of The Odd Couple! The guys kick things off by discussing what the Baltimore Ravens need to do: should they move on from HC John Harbaugh or QB Lamar Jackson? Then, they dive into James Nnaji, the 31st overall pick in the 2023 NBA Draft, committing to Baylor. Finally, Shay asks the crew, "What was the best Christmas or Hanukkah gift you received this year?" in a new edition of Shop Talk!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
That's right, Hey, Merry Christmas. It is Christmas Night, no doubt,
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (01:06):
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Speaker 1 (01:08):
Thank you, Bill, O'Reilly appreciate it. Say my name Rob Parker,
say his name Andy Furman. There you go, and we
are indeed the Odd Couple. We are live on a
Christmas night here on Fox Sports Radio. And guess what,
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(01:29):
the most listener friendly national sports talk radio show on
the planet.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Now at least when people are still awake.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
Sorry about that, Ben, write it down committed to memory.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
For you layman out there that can't figure out the
letters and the numbers, it's eight seven seven nine nine
six sixty three sixty nine. And if you hear feedback
on the line, it's your own fault. It means only
one thing.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
You forgot to turn down on the radio.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
And if you call in here and have a problem
with what Andy or I say to you, guess what
tough because.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Well, I'm talking to you the way I want to
talk to you. You have a problem, turn off your station.
And with all of that said, always remember the odd
couple that is filmed in front of a live audience.
Sweetie beat Oh indeed, let's go big show.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Let me welcome in my partner, one of my favorite
people on the planet, mister Andy Ferman, the Cincinnati radio legend.

Speaker 2 (02:34):
I am intimidating. I'm intimidating body.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
I'm working with a hall of famer, a guy who's
gotta press sponsors his name on it at Southern Cohn,
Southern con State.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
I mean, you're all over the place, a hall of famer,
You're amazing. You really are.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I cherish the time I spend with you. I do well.
You're my man. You know that I love you. We
go way back, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
I'm gonna start to whack off right now.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
No, we don't need all that and all that, but
I do want to say a happy hanakh cut to
you and your family, and Marry Christmas to everybody. I
hope you have honokha's still going on. Andy, I don't
know the day it's over. Okay, it's over. It's over.
My day is over all, right, So sometimes it's okay. Yeah,
Sometimes it coordinates like with Christmas, you know what I mean.

(03:19):
Sometimes and then other times it's it's off. But uh,
no matter what you're celebrating today, uh and your religious Uh.

Speaker 2 (03:26):
I'm celebrating being with you. That's a holiday for me.
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Always anytime we get a chance to get together, you
know that. And every summer I want you to know.
It's not like Andy and I are yucking it up
on the radio when I come to Cincinnati, Andy, do
I not always call you always?

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Always?

Speaker 3 (03:44):
That's frank still never spend time in my home. I
always In fact, I'm gonna get because usually I spend
one night in Cincinnati. You know that you do in
and out. Yeah, it's an in and out trip, but
I always make time for my friends, no doubt.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
All right, all right, Uh let's do this, don't forget.
We talked about the YouTube and uh you could just
do it. That's right, get clips from YouTube or about
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Speaker 2 (04:11):
I should say.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
At YouTube Odd Couple FSR, that's Odd Couple FSR. Hit
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Let's welcome in the Odd Couple crew because we wouldn't
be able to do this fine radio program without them.
On this TV theme song Thursday, the Christmas edition, Alex

(04:33):
Tysher is our engineer.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Behind the curt He's still got a job.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
I love it and Alex, as always, I am most
I'm very thankful for you. Alex and I work all
the holidays to yes and we're here because Andy, there
are a lot of people who their routine includes the
Odd Couple, and we have to be there for them.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
So I appreciate Alex. Thank you for being thank you.

Speaker 4 (04:57):
Robbing Rob you want to have a fun fact about Andy.
He was the start of my FSR career here as
my full time, first full show was with him, and
it was with Rob g It was Andy Furman and
Mike North FSR daybreak.

Speaker 1 (05:09):
That's unbelievable. Man, I never missed any daybreak either.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
No, I'm just kidding. Of course. Shaye is our producer.
What's up Shay? The official odd couple side piece? There
he is. Hey, guys are doing right? Mary?

Speaker 1 (05:27):
I hope everything's good? Yep, Andy, thank you very much.
And Chris Prefet I'm gonna say this. I call him
USC Chris because he's one of my former students at USC.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
We don't believe in nepotism, right, Yes, no, that's no
ne particular related. But Chris is uh I was on
the update desk. I don't keep us updates throughout the program.
Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Happy to be with you, Robin. Andy.

Speaker 5 (05:48):
It's almost a miracle to recover with you after five
five years. We were doing the overnights together and you
know what, because we always had those salami submarines, you know,
give me a.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Here we go, no doubt. All right, Hey, we got
a lot to get to. We're here for you. We
want to hear from you. Don't forget call in eight seven,
seven ninety nine on Fox. There's so much going on,
so much still to talk about.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
We get it.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Family Christmas. If you're driving, got a few moments and
you want to chime in, We're all good on that,
Shay and Andy. Let's talk about John Harball, who finally
spoke about the column that was written in the Baltimore
Sun basically kind of saying that the relationship between John

(06:35):
Harball and Lamar Jackson is kind of splintered, and he's
fallen asleep in meetings and they're kind of tired of him.
He's like a big baby and a grown man's body.
That was the columnist in Baltimore who wrote that. So
John Harball spoke on it and talked about his relationship
with Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
Let's hear John Harbor.

Speaker 6 (06:56):
Will take too much credence and anonymous type sources. So
I don't know where that's coming from. I've never seen
I've never seen that ever. You know that that's that's
not something that that I've ever witnessed. And I'm in
every meeting, so and to speculate, I know how I
feel about it. I'll tell you how I feel. You know,
I'm I'm pretty transparent. All the guys in the building
will tell you. You know, if I have something of conversations,

(07:18):
something that I want to talk to him about, I'm
right up front. So that's you know, that would be
wrong to say that that's not true. I had a
great conversation with Lamar this morning about a few things
and football and how he's feeling things like that. So
our relationship is is a plus. So I love him,
always have, always will. And uh, I know he's fighting

(07:39):
like crazy to get back so ant of reports or
things that get said or written or whatever, I don't
really preat you know, I don't need anybody speaking for me.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Okay, I'll say to Sandy, Uh, he says the relationship
is good, a plus or a one. Whatever he said,
that's fine. I'm fine, he spoke. This is what he's saying.
But the one thing I just can't let go before
we get into the media of the topic is the
whole idea about anonymous.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
So I hear people say this all the time.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Some of the greatest journalism in the history of this
country Andy has been done by reporters getting anonymous sourcing information.
So stop with the anonymous Oh, I don't know, they
can't put their name to it. No, No, plenty of
stories are broken all the time where people can't, you know,
because of they don't want to lose their careers, their jobs,

(08:29):
but they feel like there's a story in information that
needs to get out. So the anonymous source piece. Whenever
I hear people try to discount that, why don't they
put their name to it? Have you ever heard of Watergate?

Speaker 2 (08:41):
And deep throat the guy who gave him the information
probably works for the Ravens, may get a pr guy.
You never know.

Speaker 1 (08:49):
But here's my biggest thing, Andy, And I'm just enough
with the John Harball. I get it, he won a
Super Bowl there. Every single year that team is loaded
with talent. They just had they got six Pro bowlers.
Any they don't under five hundred with six Pro bowlers,
that tells you what kind of talent they have.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And every year they end in disappointment.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Right, somebody fumbled at the goal line, somebody makes a
bad play, somebody drops a two point conversion. That's like,
you could go on and on and on. In this
man's NFL. I'm always keeping the MVP two time MVP
quarterback over a football coach, especially one who hasn't won

(09:31):
in a long time. He won the Super Bowl. That's nice.
We gave you your parade. But if I'm the Ravens,
I'm looking to get rid of John Harbor.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Where are you? Well? I will tell you this much.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
You know if the NFL is a quarterback driven league,
and certainly it is, because if you look at the
teams that don't win, they don't have a quarterback. Right,
Baltimore's got a quarterback. But if you're going to compare
Baltimore with another team in that division that I'm very
familiar with in Cincinnati, the Bengals. I mean, you talk
about a team that's got Pro Bowlers, that Higgins Chasing Burrow,
and they can't even make freaking playoffs, right, and they
keep their coach. But again, sometimes the change is good.

(10:04):
And I'm gonna go back to what you said about
this anonymous source. Ninety nine percent of the people that
read that column in the Baltimore Sun said, oh, oh,
the guys did it to get clicks. He's doing it
because no, because you use the term anonymous source doesn't
mean it's fake doesn't mean it's fools, and Harbach kind
of went and at directis say, I don't have to
listen to that, you know, all.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Right, it's being my own man. No, it's probably I
would say it is true because the.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
Guy that wrote it, his butt is on the line
for writing it, and he and he's been in Baltimore
for a long time. This sain't somebody just showed up,
like I think they said, he's been covering for since
eighty three or something, or he's been there a long time,
like this is a long time guy. So I'm with
you on that, Like they when they smoke this fire,

(10:46):
and there's people who give information like I don't understand
they always do that.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Where are the leak's coming from?

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Their leaks in the federal government, leaks on team leaks,
leaked at the radio station, Are you right, Andy?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
I mean, come on, no, no, But here's the I mean,
here's several weeks ago they want there to get rid
of Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh in the same situation. You know,
they'll be one and done if in fact they even
make the playoffs. And you know, here's a guy that
has never had a losing season. You know it's a
great record, but you know what, it's meaningless. What does
it mean? That's like saying I finished second in the
Kentucky Derby.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
No one cares, right, No, you don't win, nobody cares.
At some point you have to win.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
And the Ravens having won since you ready twenty fifteen, Andy,
ten years ago, twenty twenty thirteen, more than that, I'm
sorry twenty thirteen, right, I twelve years?

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Like, you can't live off the.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
One championship forever, is all I'm saying, especially when you
have a talent like Lamar and you keep every year
people pick the Ravens to get to the Super Bowl
or win it, like like the last four years, Am
I right? Like I'm just about oh yeah, look at
the talent. A lot of people pick them. Started the

(11:57):
year Andy scoring a forty p's in Buffalo and they
lost that game.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Right, But there's always going to be an excuse, And
the excuse this year in Baltimore is the fact that
Lamar was not one hundred percent.

Speaker 2 (12:08):
He was heard.

Speaker 3 (12:09):
The excuse in Cincinnati is that Joe Burrow was out.
And I'm gonna go back and tell you Joe Burrow
wasn't out last year and they still didn't make the
freaking playoffs.

Speaker 2 (12:16):
Yep. I remember last year.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Joe Burrow threw nine touchdowns against the Ravens and lost
both games.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Am I right? Andy? Last year?

Speaker 7 (12:25):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Nine touch thousand two games, Dave.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
They've had thirty two plus points in about five or
six games this year.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I haven't lost those games. I don't know how you
do that. I really don't.

Speaker 3 (12:35):
All right, you gotta no, no, no, it's just it's
it's mind boggling, it really is.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
But are you with me or on coaching time? I
mean you won't, Like you said, I'll say this, you
can't give up Lamart like like, you know how hard
it is to get a quarterback.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
And you're right, if you don't have.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
A quarterback in the NFL, you can't compete, Andy, I
don't care what you.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Can't quite eat.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
You could have told anybody with an announce of brains in
August or September, the teams that don't have a starting
strong quarterback, I'm not going to go to the playoffs.
Las Vegas one of those teams. Tennessee another one of
those teams, the Jants. In fact, really you could get
the Giants those teams do not have what they call
a quote franchise quarterback, even Minnesota to some extent, there

(13:19):
was a question walk.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
There right, Well, well, because we didn't know about JJ McCarthy.
It was his first year, he got heard his first year,
second year, but first year playing. So there was definitely that,
all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight
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side are you on on this? John Harbaugh? Who won

(13:41):
you a Super Bowl? If you're a Baltimore Ravens fan
or enough already it's.

Speaker 2 (13:45):
Time to turn the page. That was twenty thirteen. A
lot of stuff.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
There is a caveat, But there is a bit of
a caveat in this column which I read saying that
Lamar Jackson has falling the sleeping team meetings, which.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
John Harbaugh said isn't true. I mean, he says, I
never believe it. No, I'm just because coaches today protect
their players.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
I like when a coach would call a player out,
they don't have to hang it down so to do
that anymore, that's another story. But they say he falls
asleep because he's too busy staying up late at night
to play video games, so they moved the practices from
morning to afternoon.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
How sick is that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (14:16):
But he also Lamar was the one who had the
ping pong tables and all that stuff removed from the
locker room. Right, you remember that, right, You're right. He
was the one who said, Man, get all this stuff out.
We got to focus. We're not winning. So that's why
that's that part about the video games and the afternoon.
That doesn't sound I don't know if that's in the column,

(14:36):
but I know I've read the story about Lamar having
all that stuff removed. All right, we want to hear
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Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, welcome in our number two on a Christmas night,
A very special night here on the Odd Couple. Rob Parker,
Andy Ferman in for Kelvin Washington, the Cincinnati radio legend.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
Indeed, my good friend.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Always great to mix it up with Andy and Uh,
we don't have the YouTube going live today it is
Christmas night, but normally it is on up every night
on the YouTube channel. Andy is doing really well people
subscribing watching us on YouTube, listening.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
To us on the radio.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Yes, So all you need to do is search Odd
Couple FSR on YouTube. That's Odd Couple FSR and to
subscribe to the program. Also, we got a little shop talk.
We're gonna get into best Christmas Hanukah gifts this year.
I'm gonna say this, Alex, and and and Shay, this

(18:03):
is how you know the gif you got is awesome?

Speaker 2 (18:09):
Tell me why, because I'm wearing it.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I'm wearing it right now. My friends Karen and Gary Jordan,
I went to college with them. In fact, they were
at Southern Connecticut when they dedicated to press box. I've
been We've been friends, Andy for forty years, you know.
And the thing that's strange or weird or different is
that I knew Karen individually and I knew Gary separately,

(18:36):
and then they got together, like very seldom. You're usually
friends with one or the other, you know what I mean,
and you become friends with their partner or their you know,
they've been married for.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
A long time.

Speaker 1 (18:47):
But I know them separately, and they we all went
to a party they met, and that's and then they
wound up going to college, graduating and all that and
stuff like that. But they bought me this Eddie Bauer
ten ve puffy vesk not too big though, you know,
for California, Andy beautiful. If you go on social media

(19:07):
on either my Twitter, Rob Parker, MLB bro or Instagram
the same, you'll be able to see it.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
And Alex you saw it as soon as I walked in.
What'd you say? Beautiful fits you perfectly. Color coordination is
great and you know I love brown.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
Yeah, I just couldn't believe you actually just got it.
That's how you know it meant something.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Put it on immediately. I'm like, oh, this is too
nice looking, Andy.

Speaker 1 (19:28):
So you know that when you get a gift that
you really like, you normally don't let it sit around.
You're like, oh, no, I'm using this and Alex, you
got to, Well, you got something from your sister, didn't
you today?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Yeah, she got me one of those like very viral
fun knives that people use in the outdoors world. They're
like a big, almost kind of like small butcher looking
knife and they've used it on these really cool flat rocks.
My sister knew I talked about that like a long
time ago, so she got it for me. Ainstley went outside,
set up my juicing machine and used it the entire time.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
And that's another one.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
You knew that, oh this is something I really want
to use and I really like so uh yeah, And
we'll get into that later on hour. We'll talk about
the best Honikah gift you got, Andy, and Christmas gift
Shay and Alex, And we'll do more of that coming
up later on in the hour, but first we want to.

Speaker 3 (20:09):
Go to college for one second, because this is on
my mind now and I'm gonna figure out because you know,
I lose things, I lose Trade's thoughts. You were talking
about the situation with Charles Barkley kind of calling the
NBA guys.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
The NFL got pigs, right right? I love it.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Why is Charles Barkley the only guy with a pair
of hanging downs to attack the NFL. Why aren't the
other owners saying anything? Why aren't the players saying it?

Speaker 2 (20:33):
I don't get.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
Why is it always Charles? I love him. I love
Charles Barkley because he fears no one.

Speaker 1 (20:37):
He fears no one, and and I like, here's how
relevant and powerful.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
That Charles Barkley is. And I've known him.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
I covered him, you know, Andy, back in the days
when I was an NBA reporter back in the Daily
News in New York back in the eighties. Okay, so
I've been around Charles for a long time now. I
didn't cover him every day, but I covered the NBA
during enough time. And my point is this, when you know,
like the players don't like Charles. That's all you need
to know. Because at first they used to get on us. Andy,

(21:07):
Oh well, you guys didn't play. You don't know whatever,
Your opinion doesn't matter. Then when Charles came out and
doing his thing, they hate him, you know what I mean.
So basically they just don't want to be criticized. But
Charles doesn't care. And the idea that the players don't
like Charles Barkley tells you all you need to know
how good, strong and powerful he is.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Okay, let's go to the owner's. Then why don't the
owners say anything? I don't get it. They're not gonna
say anything. What are you gonna say? But I just
I hear them.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
I mean, the NFL is all over the place, and
all they keep doing is they want they would want
to be on and people don't understand this. The only
reason that doing it is if they lump all the
games together on Sunday. There's only but so much money
you get every time you break a game off and
make it a national game.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
Andy, they got to pay a ton of money.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
That's why that's the only weas and that's why they
have Thursday Night Football. That's why they on Netflix and
all these other plays because they pay premium to be
the only game. They don't care about CBS right or Fox.
They don't because those are regional games. Those are regional.
You're only seeing them in particular areas. These are national games,

(22:18):
and that's what they want. But anyway, let's go here, Shay,
college basketball and this is up your alley.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
You know, Cincinnati is a great college basketball town. Used
to be. Okay, used to be. But this this story
is interesting.

Speaker 1 (22:30):
A lot of people I've seen on social media got
their panties in a bunch over this, But Shaye, tell
us what's going on.

Speaker 7 (22:36):
So yeah, this is going over to Baylor. Former MEA
draft pick James Nausey is reported to have joined the
Bears after playing in Europe for a little bit. Former
Detroit Pistons second round pick, he he was picked at
thirty one and he'll be playing the second half of
the season with the Bears. He's actually granted four years

(22:58):
of eligibility by the NCAAA and the Nigerian twenty one
year old big man was selected thirty first over on
the twenty twenty three NBA draft and.

Speaker 2 (23:09):
His rights were moved to Charlotte.

Speaker 7 (23:11):
Despite being drafted, he never signed a standard NBA contract,
but in twenty twenty four, his rights were moved once again,
this time to the New York Knicks as part of
the three team Karl Anthony Towns trade. Now he's just
kind of just been stagnant, and now he will be
playing for the Baylor Bears in the second half of
the season.

Speaker 2 (23:29):
What do you guys think?

Speaker 7 (23:30):
Is this all right? Did the NCAA do the right
thing for him? Is this something that you could see
happening a lot more? Rob Let me know, I'm.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
Gonna say this, Andy, I have no issue with it.
The NCAA was so bad. Andy, you remember this in
the old days, if you even put your name in
to the NBA draft, you remember your eligibility was stripped
from you. Right, even if you didn't get drafted, even
if you didn't sign with an age an agent, you

(23:59):
had finished how and then guys wouldn't get picked or whatever.
They wouldn't let him come back to school. This kid
has not played one minute of NBA basketball. He hasn't,
so why wouldn't he be able to come back and
go back to college and finish and play college basketball.

(24:20):
I think this is straight and right, and the NCAA
gets so many things wrong.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Andy, I think they're right on this.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
If that kid had played one minute for the Pistons
or the Knicks or Charlotte or whoever he was with,
then obviously he can't go and play.

Speaker 2 (24:35):
College I'll play college basketball. Look at all these.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
Older players now playing college football got eligibility.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
They're twenty eight years old, twenty six years old, right.
You know, it's an interesting situation. I'll tell you why.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
Because the fact that he'd never played and never sat
a contract with the NBA says he never became a
court professional. However, less summery played in the summer League
for the Knicks, whatever that means. But he had to
get paid, so he was a quote professional. The problem being,
and you're going to go back in time, if this
was fifteen twenty years ago, he wouldn't be able to
play in college. The reason why he can play, more

(25:11):
than any other reason, not because he didn't sign a contract.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Because right now.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
The NCAA is afraid of lawsuits. Everybody's suing everybody else.
That's the only reason he's going to be able to
play for Baylor. I got to believe that.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yeah, I think that if he hasn't played.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
When you look up when you look up the NBA
and people who have played in the league, his name
is not on the list.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
He didn't play a real game any well, do summer league?
Does that count? No? No, no, it doesn't count. It doesn't.
He didn't get paid.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I don't know what the standard is or what the
because he never signed a contract, so I don't know
exactly if he was really considered a professional athlete. There's
a loophole because he didn't sign an NBA contract or
play in a game. I think he still has his status.
I don't have an issue with this.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
I know a lot of.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
People I don't really care, and I'll be honest you,
I have more of a problem of when the NBA
was signing kids out of high school that I think
is worse.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I really do. But Andy, I'll disagree with you, and
I'm gonna tell you why.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
No other place on earth would you punish a prodigy.
If you had a fourteen year old kid who was
a concert pianist and she could play in Carnegie Hall,
not one person would stand in her way and say,
what are you doing here?

Speaker 2 (26:30):
But that's you. I agree. Let me give you another one.

Speaker 1 (26:33):
Okay, okay, kids graduate college Andy at fifteen, sixteen years
old because you're brilliant. You don't say you got to
stay in middle school or whatever because you're fourteen. You're
a genius, you've done all the work. You don't stay
there and you know what you're doing. You graduate college
at fifteen, go look it up. There's plenty of people.

(26:53):
Nobody stops a prodigy. And that's my point. If you're
a prodigy Lebron James or somebody, and you're able to play,
even though you're young, you should be able to play.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
Nobody stopped McCauley caughland. What was his name, what's his
last name? Calcolly Cookland, Right, McCauley, Colchin Culkin. Thank you,
you're welcome. Thank you. Please, you're welcome.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Anybody stop him from going to make home alone? Andy,
He not an adult. But there's a big difference. What
is it.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
The difference is you're comparing mental prowess against physical ability. No,
I'm trying.

Speaker 3 (27:31):
No, you would not take a high school kid and
put him in the NFL, even if he wasn't prodigy,
because prodigy, because he can't play physically with a twenty
five year old guy, Candy.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
Andy Pysic, I disagree, and I'm gonna tell you why.
First of all, it has to be on an individual basis.
And I don't know if you've seen some of these
twenty nineteen twenty. When I met Lebron James in high school,
he looked like a man to me, and now he
was in high school. I'll never forget. I met him
at the Palace of Auburn Hills. Behind it was just me,

(28:02):
Lebron James and world Wide West, nobody else. I was
standing face to face with him, and I could not
believe he was in high school.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Okay, how his size and everything.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Right, there are exceptions to the rule, most but that's
not the onners of the kids.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
That's the onners of the team.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
If he's not ready or not physical, then yes, Andy,
don't draft him all these.

Speaker 3 (28:24):
I'll tell you why. I remember seeing Dave Newmark in
high school. He went to Lincoln High School in Brooklyn.
He was seven feet tall, and he kind of fizzled
out in the NBA.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
So so it goes both ways.

Speaker 1 (28:34):
Right, Yeah, I'm not saying that that just because you're
I'm saying, no one should be denied an opportunity to work.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
This is me.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
If someone is willing to pay you, I don't care
who it is. If somebody says, I know you're sixteen
or I know that, Look at all the guys who
get hurt in the NFL. Those are grown men. They
still get hurt. It has nothing to do with that. Then,
so the grown men go and they get hurt. Gonna
get hurt in the NFL because of the nature of
the game. It's part of the business exactly. The only
reason that they keep the kids out it's that the

(29:08):
colleges can make money off of them. It has nothing
to do with their well being. And you don't believe
that for one second. It's college freshman, no matter how talented.

Speaker 8 (29:17):
He may be.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
I'm not talking about talent, but physical. There are guys
who are unbelievable. They're on guys. You've seen that far
between the few and far between. That's a prodigy. That's
why I said a prodigy. Okay, all right, okay, you
see what I'm saying. It's got to be away lot.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
We don't see it often, but the NFL. You cannot
go there until you have at least three years of college. Right,
is not the rule all that? But that's that's the
made up rule that they have.

Speaker 1 (29:37):
I mean right, I mean you could go play golf
at fourteen, you know, it's just all made up.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
You can go to Minor League baseball and all that.
The only thing they did.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Lincoln has it right is the MSL because they got
fourteen year old kids playing in Major League Soccer.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Of course LS.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
I'm sorry, right, and there's no reason not to if
they're talented in that way, all right? Eight seven seven
ninety nine on Fox, We do want to hear out
James Naji just Baylor. Is this crazy? Is this my sugar?
Naw Andy six eleven, he's big? Is this crazy? Because
he did play in the summer League. Did the NCAA

(30:12):
finally get it right? I think they did? And he
doesn't think they got it right. We want to hear
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(30:33):
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(32:04):
around and have everybody tell us, We're gonna start with you. Andy.

Speaker 2 (32:07):
The best Christmas or Kanaka gift that you got this year? Yes,
this year? And am I right?

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Hanukah? You get one every day gifts? One every night?
Ayists right?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Yes, but I did get it very See.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
My wife knows that I'm a little bit of an
odd ball, and she likes to give me gifts that
are kind of like off the beaten track, not in
the main highway, right, And she knows that I love
two things I really love in life besides her and
my kids, pizza and ice cream.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
That's why I am okay.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
And in Cincinnati, we're very lucky because we have Greaters
ice cream, as you know, great ice cream nice absolutely,
so I love Greatest, I love Greatest double chocolate ship.

Speaker 2 (32:46):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Okay. She got me a heated ice cream scoop. Think
about that. So you get those little pints, and what
I used to do is put them in the microwave
because they're like frozen solid. Put them in there for
like forty forty five seconds, gonna melt a little bit
and scoop out the ice cream. Now I have this
self heating scoop, put it right in there. I can

(33:07):
scoop out my ice cream. How do you like that?

Speaker 2 (33:09):
That's pretty nice? I like that, Yes, very nice, very easy, Alex.
I can I have a second thing about a little Okay, hell,
come on, you know why he didn't get any gifts.
That's why I did andy he did today?

Speaker 8 (33:26):
All right?

Speaker 5 (33:26):
What about usc Chris. It's been a really busy year
for me, so I don't have too much. My mom
did send me along some very nice stuff. I've been
kind of just working my bartending games. So I got
a new uh, a new measurer and one of those
things that you can like save sparkling wine keep the
carbonation in it. So that's always very good.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, I like that because I'm a guy. Like to
drink champagne and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
So you know, after you open the bottle, you want
to be able to preserve it for maybe another night
or two, right if you can.

Speaker 5 (33:56):
Oh, yeah, especially especially prosecco stuff too, like to save.
You only need a little bit prosecco if you're doing
apparol sprits or something, so you just need to put
it back and just use it for later.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Shay, what about you this year?

Speaker 7 (34:10):
Usually I don't really get good Christmas guess, but my
mom kind of surprised me this year, which was surprising.
I got AirPod Force. Was really excited for those phones
for a while. Yeah. I haven't had headphones for a
very long time, and I was like, using these random
wired ones that I got on at airport randomly for free.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
AirPod Force really needed. Okay, thank you, Alic, you need
more time. I got this. So my older.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Sister Mary Anne, and she has two grandkids, two grand boys, sons.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
They all got me the bows noise canceling headphones.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
You know, I travel a lot and the ones that
I had are about six seven years old. The cushion
and the ears are like padded down. And one day,
you know, I was over at their house in New
York when I was in December, and I remember her
looking like, I have my headphones on the bed or something,
and I remember her looking like really hard at them.
And I thought to me, and I was like, what

(35:10):
are you looking at?

Speaker 2 (35:11):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (35:11):
Because I was like like that, and she hadn't noticed
that they were kind of worn down. So when I
opened that box today, I was pleasantly surprised because A
I wanted a new pair and B I needed a
new pair, So it answered both things, and those are expensive.
Those are better than any of the other headphones. Andy,

(35:33):
When I get on a plane, you know, I fly
a lot. I love to be able to cancel everything
out and just hear.

Speaker 2 (35:37):
The music and everybodys shouting your name. So you want
to personally they sent to you, No, she said them.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
She bought them, I guess, and then you know, put
them in a package and sent them.

Speaker 4 (35:48):
Well, I did mention the knife on my sister already
got me, which was really dope. But if I have
to do a different one, I would say that I
got a very sentimental gift for my mom this year,
and she actually went out of her way to get
a very special bracelet made that was engraved with her
that said I love you my son, always remember, And
it was really cute because my mom. You know, we
start to take for granted a lot of the things
we get in life, and especially people. And if you

(36:09):
put in perspective, rob and like say, like you only
get seventy two years to live, right, it's only seventy
two Christmases you can spend with somebody, and when you
put that in perspective, it's very short. And as you
get older and time passes, we start to really much
value the things we least valued. And so it was
really cool and nice to know my mom went out
of her way to get something just to say, you know,
remember me no matter where you go in life.

Speaker 1 (36:28):
You know what, dude, that is beautiful because did you
tear up a little bit?

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Yeah? I held it together for myself.

Speaker 4 (36:34):
But then she also got my sister one and she
put these really cute cards in it. And then when
I read my sister's card and she talked about she
was a little girl in this, and then it's like
that's when I kind of tipped over.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
Those things are nice, and I mean, you'll never take
it off. You'll never take that off. You can't.

Speaker 1 (36:47):
And you're right, Alex, Like I tweeted something earlier and
I'll stand by it. Life is about people, not things.
And that's why you like for your mom give you
something to remind you of her whatever. That's what it's about.
It really is. Life is about people. Andy, Uh, things
are nice, but spend time with people. You don't know

(37:11):
how much time you have.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Call people.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
I'm telling you if you haven't talked to you're the
best of that. I try to keep in touch, Andy,
I do, don't You're great. I will tell you this.
Next Christmas. I'm getting you a bracelet with my name
on it that I love you. Really, I would love
one from you.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
Andy, you got one, are ready for your mom? But
you know what.

Speaker 1 (37:36):
What's crazy is, uh, you want to be able to
spend time with people if you can. So every time
when I go to different cities or whatever, like people
see me at games all the time and I'm with
six or eight people and you go, my god, you know.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Or I'm having lunch with ten people, Andy, when I
go to Cincinnati, Oh it's a crowd.

Speaker 1 (37:57):
It's a crowd. We've had lunch with write ten, twelve people, Andy.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
One wonderfully it really is.

Speaker 1 (38:02):
It is.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
And we all get to get together and go out
to eat and reminisce. And I just try to keep
a touch through the mail I send. I send stuff
all the time. I know, I get stuff you know
once supy a time. Man. I used to write us letters,
but I haven't seen those lately. Well, I still do,
but I guess you're off the list.

Speaker 4 (38:17):
I oh my, you know what I do want to say?
I got nothing to say to you, really, yeah, you know, no,
that's fine. You know I didn't work on your show
a long time ago.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
That's right. I sent Crystal all the time. Now I
know your favorite.

Speaker 3 (38:29):
I don't have favorites. I just if this, if it
hits me, I send it out, all right, that's it.
First of all, I don't send it to you. I'll
tell you why. I can't spell your name, all right.
Your name is like a freaking I chart. Really, I
can't spell your last name.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
All right.

Speaker 4 (38:43):
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