August 5, 2019 • 38 mins
It's the Best of the Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob debate whether or not the New England Patriots made a mistake after giving Tom Brady a contract extension headed into his age-42 season, and if Brady's insistence on taking less money to help the team is proof that he's the Greatest Leader of All-Time. Plus, the guys explain why they were big fans of Champ Bailey and Ed Reed using their Pro Football Hall of Fame platform to promote social change.
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Speaking of magic, the New
England Patriots found some money to pay Tom Brady. I'm
gonna call it. I'm gonna have a little fun with it. Rob.
I know it's not really this, but I'm gonna call
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it a two year, seventy million dollars contract extension for
Tom Brady because next year he would make thirty million,
the year after that he would make thirty two million,
and this year they tacked on in that eight million.
Two is already fifteen, so you get twenty three instead. Now,
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of course it's kind of a strange contract in those
last two years. I guess the best way to put
it is, aren't guaranteed. Wait a minute, So, so then
did they just basically gave him eight million dollars? You're
sitting around trying to poke it shuts out, like they
rewarded a quarterback who won a Super Bowl without throwing
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a touchdown? Is that what you're telling me, Chris? He's
so great that they wouldn't even guarantee the contract. Why not?
He's the gold according to So why what does that matter?
Because he's forty two years? What say matter? Weren't you
the one on Friday spouting about you must have said
it six times? Father Time is undefeated. Lebron's facing his
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biggest nemesis, yet his name is father time. T I
m father Time? Is that me and I did an
excellent Uh? If you know that, you know that you're
smiling and I can see wow, you know that was good.
I was pretty good. So that's he's forty two, rob?
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Why should I mean? Come on? They gave him an
eight million dollar raise, which he deserves. In fact, I'm
gonna say this, and I think you know it's true.
Whatever they had given him, if they would have given
him a real contract extension that's guaranteed, and it would
have been worth forty million dollars a year, totally resetting
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the market, he would have been worth that because what
he has done for them nine super Bowl appearances, six
super Bowl championships. You know what the New England Patriots
were before Tom Brady got there. They would made him
a Bill Belichick out there, both of them. But all
I don't remember Tom Brady getting fired anywhere or benched anywhere. No, right,
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Jay didn't. He didn't Michigan play Michigan without Tim Braid.
Remember Michigan Belichick. I think Belichick is a great co Chris,
you remember Michigan career masking? You remember? Okay, it matters
what you did? Why sixth? Why why was he the
sixth drafted a sixth round? Because you're star in college? Insult? No,
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I'm just so star hard, Okay, I'm just saying. I mean, really,
it just showed that that just makes the story that
much better that he was drafted in the sixth round
and has become the greatest quarterback of all time. Or
even someone like you has to put him into what
top three? I mean, come on, I'd have to consider it.
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You know, I think you got him second behind Montana.
Don't put me on the spot right now, are you
donec You hate to give him a little love, even
a little light. You hate to give him. I'm done.
Go ahead, because I'm gonna respond to whatever nonsense you're
about to say. Go ahead, Hello, is this on the
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New England Patriots? Standing up? The Patriots cue the patriotic music.
Just made the worst decision in the history of the
National Football League. How could you give an old, decrepit
man who's gonna be forty two any day now, already
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forty two a contract? That's why it was August third.
I do remember that only because Skip's wife, Ernestein's born
on that day, not because of Tom Brady. But anyway,
how did you give this man a raise of eight
million dollars? He already had a contract. Did you see
him in the Super Bowl? He was pathetic, He moved
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like the tin man. How many touchdowns did he have?
Chris zero? How many interceptions one? How many fumbles one?
How many barely through? How many w my turn or not?
Tom Brady doesn't deserve a raise. He's the first player
in NFL history who's collecting three paychecks, his pay his
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Social Security, and his pension. Enough already, why are you
doing this? This is just to pacify him. He had
a deal that he's signed in good faith. He had
a terrible Super Bowl. He's on the did you see
the video of him and his girl and then his
daughter falling off the cliff. That's tom Brady's career. Tom
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Brady doesn't deserve another nickel. He's been paid for the past.
From here on out, tom Brady's finished, washed up, A
has been I was, but never was again, will never be.
That's what he is. Stop it when you put him
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and better away money. He put a better numbers last
year than Aaron Rodgers. I don't care about Nobody brought
up aarer. Here we go with Chris, Nobody brought upon
rog injured. Aaron Rodgers is a standard. He's one of
the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. He's still in his prime.
And yet the old, the decrepit, the bout to fall
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off the clue, No, he fell off. Brady put up
better numbers than Aaron Rodgers, and can we go here's
the highlight of tom Brady's season last year. We're strolling
ten years by Tom Brady. That's right, that's what it was.
That was from the Patriots radio network. That wasn't the
Steelers radio network. That was from the Patriots radio network.
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Because he couldn't throw the ball out of bouts. Remember
he got picked off. He was trying to chuck it
to the sidelines. Chris Broussard, the Patriots have lost their way.
They have always cut bait sooner rather than later with
aging players. That's why they've been able to sustain winning
over all these years. And this is when the franchise
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goes the other way, when they get sentimental, when they
stopped looking at the facts and looking at age, they
have turned the corner. They will regret this when Jimmy
Garoppolo becomes the star in the NFL and the Patriots
are going the other way, They'll remember they had that
guy and they fell in love with Tom Brady's ghost.
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This is getting ridiculous. I'm me seriously, You're bringing up
Jimmy Garoppolo, who can't even stay healthy. And since they
parted ways with Jimmy Garoppolo, they've only reached two Super Bowls.
Tim Brady's only thrown for more yardage than any quarterback
in any playoff game period. Two years ago in the
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Super Bowl. Did he win? Last year? Did he win
that game? Okay, all that matters as you won? Did
he win? You can't have it both ways, mister Parker.
Two years ago he was tremendous statistically, but they lost,
so you give him no credit. Last year he was okay, No,
he was bad, saying he was bad sixty two yards.
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He was bad twenty one for thirty five two hundred
and sixty two yards and he had no interceptions, a
pick and a fumble. He was bad last year. I
wasn't bad. He was better than Jared Goff, that's for sure.
Would got the W he was bad to have me
both ways? What would you rather have? The individual stats
and performance or the W? Which one? I can't hear
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you something on my headphone and I figured as much
to the Patriots, Are you kidding me? If they had
given him twenty million to pay him thirty five million
this year, it would have been justified. Chris in Detroit,
the tallest building in Detroit is the Panop Scott Building.
The Patriots would have been better off taking that eight
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million dollars to the top floor and just throwing it off.
It's the same thing then giving Tom Brady eight million
dollars more than he deserved. Dare you bring up Detroit
and they're woful? Football History of discussion about Tom Brady
the Lions aren't fit to be in the same paragraph
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to the loom, the same sentence as Tom Brady in
the New England Patriots. Every expert worth is sought has
the Patriots as a favorite to reach the AFC Championship Game.
What are you talking about? How bet you right here,
right now still is not the highest paid quarterback in
the league, but the six highest paid quarterback in the league.
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And on top of all that, for your spiel, the
Patriots somehow, I don't understand it, but somehow giving Brady
eight million dollars extra put give him five point five
million dollars more underneath the salary cap. I'll give you.
Wait now, I don't know how it works, but they
actually save rumors the cap because they're probably squeezing somebody
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else out. But the point of it is, I would
be the first one to tell you. I'll be the
first one to tell you they're not going to the
FC Championship. And I'll bet you twenty wings in a
large diet coke right here, right now. Tired of your
wing bets, I'm tired of the wing bet. When it's time,
I'll bet one but now, but there'll be a new
way to work to bet wings. All right, we'll figure
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that right, not right now, but the Patriots are right
up there and everybody knows it. You're crazy to say,
I mean, are you serious he's still underpaid. He ain't
underpaid at forty two years old, coming coming on Super
Bowl one where he got him to the super Bowl championship.
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There's nothing else, Rob, there's nothing more. You need this,
Terry Brass. I'll get credit when they won their first
Super Bowl nine to six, sip paid mets sip Payton
madd't get a new deal when Broncos won the Super Bowl.
Oh no, that was no you know why bad all
Now look and now he's saying he's better, he want
a super Bowl Crisp Hair, Yes, man, they ran Peton No,
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it was good. I give him credit. They ran him
out of town on a rail and they won the
Super Bowl. Why couldn't they do it again? With that defense?
What it can we? I mean, really, you gotta look
at the specifics. Peyton Manning wasn't even close in his
last year to what Tim Brady was last season, not
even close. And you know it, you know it. You're
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playing games. They looked the same in the Super Bowl
aren't falling for it. Peyton Manning didn't come anywhere near
two hundred and sixty two yards in his last Super Bowl.
Didn't even throw for a hundred I think it was
ninety one. Yeah, you find out, but it still was
ally through for three times more. Yea what I'm thinking.
I think Peyton Manning threw for one touchdown and Brady
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didn't even throw for a touchdown. Matter he's gonna get
all that information, does not matter. The Patriots have fallen
in love with the past. He's not worth being, not
worth done for them. In fact, this is great for
him because if he doesn't play well this year, then
they can move forward from him next year. So Peyton
Manning say he doesn't deserve a raise, Come on, Rob
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was one forty one? Come come back on, Rob g
has the numbers. That's right. Peyton Manning and Super Bowl
fifty against the Panthers thirteen of twenty three, one forty one,
one interception, one lost fumble, Very Tom Brady ESK. If
you ask Brady through for two sixty two the same thing,
what's the difference? One one two two? So gave up
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the football and threw a pick be sure to catch
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on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Of course,
the highlight of that weekend is are the speeches. And
we have seen, you know, in the past. Do you
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remember Kelln Winslow who spoke out strongly to speed yes
for affirmative action in his speech. I can't remember what
year it was, but he spoke out strongly about that.
And we've seen, you know, some great just speeches. I mean,
it's always great to see what a guy's gonna come
up with, you know, whether they're thanking their families, their parents,
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they're talking about their upbringing, thanking coaches, just reminiscing about
some of the great times with teammates, the challenges they've overcome.
It's always great. It was really a tear jerker this
year for sure, and Ed Reid really was it. Friday
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night was the Hall of Fame game, and that's when
he stole the show by wearing a T shirt. They
typically wear the Hall of Fame polos, but he didn't
wear it, and he wore a T shirt with the
pictures of may All or certainly many of the African Americans,
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the unarmed African Americans who had been shot down by police,
Trey ViOn Martin, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice Son, and so forth.
Sandra Bland We're on his T shirt and others as well.
And then in his speech he mentioned mental health and
how you know that's that's something that we really need
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to take care of and try to address as a nation.
And then champ Bailey went even a step further and
really talked emotionally about you know, African American players. You know,
obviously so many of them are in the Hall of Fame.
The NFL itself is almost seventy percent black, the NBA
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is near almost eighty percent, about seventy five percent black,
and he champ Bailey talked about, you know, we obviously
see some race ism in society, and he talked about
how the same aggressiveness and size that African American men
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in particular are celebrated for on the football field, oftentimes
is something that is used as an excuse to look
down on them, mistreat them, and fear them in general. Society,
fear them to a point where it could even end
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the life in their lives. And so here's what Champ
Bailey said about that in his Hall of Fame speech.
The first thing people see when they look at me,
it's not a Pro football Hall of Famer or a
husband or a father. They view me first as a
black man. So on behalf of all the black men
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that I've mentioned tonight, and many more out there who've
had the most of the same experience if I've had
in my lifetime. We say this to all of our
white friends when we tell you about our fears. Please
listen when we tell you we're afraid for our kids.
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Please listen when we tell you there are many challenges
we face because of the color of our skin. Please listen,
and please do not get caught up in how the
message is delivered. Yes, most of us are black men,
our athletes, but we are black men. First. Understand this.
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The things that make us great on the field, like
our size and our aggression, are the same things that
can get us killed off the field. I believe if
we start listen, there's no telling the progress we can make.
All of us are dad's sons, brothers, your friends. Oh,
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we all understand that if we can't get our friends
to listen, then no one will. And to my black brothers,
if you do not have anything positiive to say about
our social challenges, please keep your mouth shut. All right, Rob,
I love the first right, No I do here man. No,
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I think that when you're giving the mic and it's
your moment, you get to talk about whatever it is
you want doesn't have to be football. Some people go,
who's the old thing about that? Who's supposed to be
only about football? No it's not. And I tell people
stop using that as an excuse because it's not true.
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If it was only about football, they wouldn't wear pink
cleats and pink socks. They wouldn't wear it at a
football game. That's for breast cancer awareness. I'm not against it,
but don't act like we only care about football. We don't.
When the NFL took away to Super Bowl from Arizona,
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you know why they took it away because they didn't
have them morein Luther King Holiday. What does that have
to do about football, Chris? Nothing? So it can't only
be when it's something that you can make money off
of or something that you can stick your chest out
and feel good about. I love that those guys were
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willing to take their moment in the sun and talk
about stuff that really matters. That might be the only
time that those guys will have the attention of masses
and millions of people. Chris, that's the right platform, that's
the right stage. Talking to your your buddies in the barbershop.
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It's not gonna change anything. Everybody you're talking to in
your family and the barbershop, they know it. Talk to
the masses you have, you have the undefined attention. Are
they gonna get up and walk out? Chris? No, I
loved every minute of it, and I thought it was
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the right time and the right moment. Yeah, I agree
with you wholeheartedly. Like you said, at that time, it's
your moment. You can say whatever you want in your
time that is allotted and generally, and I'm I fall
into this category too, and I'm sure you probably do.
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Most people do. When someone speaks out about social issues
that we agree with, we love it. And when they
speak out an athlete and entertainer or somebody speaks out
about social issues that we don't agree with, we hate it.
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Be quiet, just play ball. We don't want to hear that.
Here's the thing, rob the social issues that champ Bailey
addressed or issue everyone in this country should agree with
innocent men and sometimes children or women being killed by
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our police force. A large segment twelve thirteen percent of
the population fearing that when their children go outside, or
even them as adults go out, there's a possibility that
something could go the wrong way and they could get killed.
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And part of the problem. Well, let me get to
this point. I like that champ Bailey addressed our white friends,
the white fans that cheered him and cheered aad Reid
and cheered Tony Gonzalez and all the other players of
color who were celebrated at the Hall of Fame. Because
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because of the fact that white Americans are nearly sixty
five percent of the population in this country, because they
have well over ninety percent of the wealth in this country,
because they run all of the economic and judicial institutions
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in this country, they have to address these sitchens situations
as well. It can't just be African Americans. I like
that Steve Kerr has spoken out against racial injustice. I
like that Gregg Popovich has spoken out against racial injustice.
There were whites that marched with Martin Luther King and
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helped the civil rights games that were earned in the sixties.
I'm telling you these owners in the NFL and the NBA,
if they spoke out, forget given the players ninety million dollars,
that was nice of the NFL owners, But if they
just spoke out passionately about the racial injustice that they
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see that their players are wearing T shirts about and
kneeling about. If they spoke to their politician friends, if
they spoke to their lawmaking friends that the chiefs of
the police departments passionately and said this has got to stop,
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it would stop. I mean, there obviously could be accidents
here or there, but for the most part, it would stop.
And so champ Bailey was right on the money and saying, look,
I know this is not your experience. So you think
it's all you know. You don't. You can't imagine, you know,
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being afraid of the police or being you know, mistreated
for no reason by law enforcement. But believe us when
we tell you, because it's happening. And I'm gonna say
this route I'm reading a book, I said. I went
to the beach this weekend and I was reading a
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book called Waking Up white and finding myself in the
story of Race. It's by Debbie Irving. She's a white
woman that grew up very very privileged, I mean, far
more privileged than most white people. And she talked about
how she discovered she had always tried to work with
African Americans and help them, and it never there was
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always tension, and it just never seemed right. And then
she really began to learn true American history. She learned
about the GI Bill and how in her own family,
her own family, when her father came back from World
War Two, that the GI Bill allowed him to get
subsidized housing and free tuition to college and law school,
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law school, okay, And how the GI Bill was virtually
even though there wasn't an official law, but the way
it was carried out, no African Americans who had fought
in the war, very very tiny percent, only like two
percent of the GI Bills moneys went to African Americans,
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even though millions had fought in that war, or hundreds
of thousands or thousands. So that she began to recognize
what we talk about when we say white privilege. And
part of the problem in our country is that we're
learning two different histories we learned typical American history, which
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glorifies it, and then African Americans we know our own
history that is generally not really taught to the public
in schools and really all of its entirety. And so
that is the root of the problem. So I would
recommend to all of our listeners, white, black, whatever you're race,
check that book out, Waking Up White by Debbie Irving.
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It's a great book to read, and I think it
understanding what she's talking about can help us heal this
racial divide has been in this country since its existence
and before. I will always applaud people who just will
stand up, and you just mentioned Steve Kerr Pop. There
are guys who are just you know what, they're basketball coach,
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but our bigger to you know, I always say, the
only thing, Chris, then the bad guys are when good
people turn away and don't do anything, they're the only
they're worse than those guys because well because when when
you do that, you allow that stuff to go on
because it's not happening to you. Right, do you understand
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what I'm saying. That's not the way it's supposed to be,
you know, right from wrong, and you should not turn
your back and the good people. And we've seen this
civil rights, Chris. It wasn't just black people out there.
Go go watch the video. Go watch it. The underground
railroad with slaves, right, white people facilitated that. Yes, So
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those were good people, honest people who didn't believe in
what was going on, and we're willing to do what
was right. That's all it is. Be sure to catch
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I still think the Hatreds made a mistake. You know.
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It's one thing to pay the girls because they're trying
to go to college, But to just give Tom Brady
extra money for no reason. I don't get it. I'm sorry,
Are you crazy? And I'm not buying it? No, I'm
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just give away money, Chris, that's what you do. Just
give it a one dollars. Still he's making twenty three million.
That's twenty that's eight million bore market value. Not for
forty two year old broken down quarterbacks who just led
you to the super Bowl, not only the last year
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of victory, but he led you to the Super Bowl
twice two straight years. Who else has done that? And
they got five point five million dollars worth of cap
room out of it. I don't know how, but they did.
When paid Manning turned in kind of a super Bowl.
He threw for half the yard the Bowl throws. For
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the second half of the season, Tom Brady outgunned Patrick
Mahomes Jared Goff on the way to that Super Bowl.
Stop it. In fact, I'm about to say something you're
not going to like, but try as you might, it's undeniable.
And I want names. I don't want just know. I
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want you to name somebody who tops Brady in this category.
I really think Rob Tom Brady is the greatest leader,
oh god, in American team sports history. And here's why.
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He is ego less but yet not a pushover. Okay,
his ego doesn't control him. He's not you know, abrasive, arrogant,
doesn't get on guy's nerves because he's arrogant, but yet
he's able to lead men. He's right right when he
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needs to be on the sidelines. He doesn't take himself
too seriously, but he's not to be clowned. He's willing
to take less money for the betterment of the team.
He's secure. That's part of being a great leader. He's secure.
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He's not measuring himself. But I gotta make more money
than every other quarterback. I'm better than him. I should
be making more. Oh my gosh, so and those making
more than me. And the tone that that sets in
the locker room is tremendous. And all the other players,
if he steps in line, then they all all got
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a step in line. And he's coachable. He can be
yelled at, he can be criticized, and again, if he
can take it, then everybody else, from the lineman to
the skilled positions to the special teamers can take it.
And as Michael holly So pointed out, so eloquent in
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the first hour, He's done it for twenty years, Homer.
He is leading men who were his age. He's leading
men who were children barely born when he entered the league.
He's able to relate to the twenty something millennials, and
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he was able to relate to the forty somethings who
are in his generation. I'm sorry. I love Michael Jordan,
I love Lebron James, I loved Tim Duncan, But who Rob?
I love Terry Bradshaw. I love Joe Montana, But who Rob? Chris?
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You you've been a better leader. I mean, honestly, who you?
Michael Jordan has been a better leader than Tom Brady.
But yes, yes, and your whole thing give me high.
What do you mean how? Because Jordan was a great leader?
He leave me how he was a better leader. He
led by example. He'd never put the oldess on anybody else.
He always was willing to take the brunt of whatever
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was going on. I never heard Brady's not know. All
I'm saying is this is just an overreaction to Tom Brady.
What makes him better? If you want to say he's equal,
you haven't given me anything to say Jordan was a
better leader. I don't giving me to say maybe the
same when you're giving me this. Oh, tom Brady's done this,
Tom Brader little his mind. Give you an example. Tom
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Brady hasn't said a great example by taking less money
he's not because he's heard of other players by doing that.
That's not a great example of what well, Mike, Tom,
why give me out? No he did not know, He
did not. Michael Jordan was never the highest player his team.
But that wasn't the last two years. Yeah, but that's
not that he took LUs money, Tom Brad. Here's the
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other part he did. He's trying to raise the stink
Tom Brady. Also, when you talk about the whole money aspect,
they didn't spend the money on players. You use the
same example. No, it's not as Tom Brady did. He
always go Tom Brady, he did more with less, but
he gave up money. But he gave up money for
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the team. Why did he give the money up for
the team? Why did he give the money up for teams?
I'm asking you, bradies, what did he give the money
up for that team? No, it's not as brady as
for fall because he should have demanded if I'm giving
up money, why and I'm taking less money plays? No,
you should go out and get me some better players
because I'm giving up money. Why he's winning with what
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he's got. No, it's ridiculous. Why did I have to
give it all the best receiver he'd ever played with.
They didn't win it. Randy Moss well because Tom Brady
wasn't that good. And that Super Bowl. Everything you bring
giving somebody else, I'm giving you. And I'm telling you
Jordan didn't make a making. It's a prison off the moment.
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Here we go Tom Brady. The greatest moment is twenty
years nine super He went ten years. When I win
in years, do you remember those ten years? He certainly did.
The greatest leader there come on ten years he didn't win.
To give me ten years when winning. Michael Jordan didn't
win ten the freaking years career he didn't. I'm talking
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about ten years stopped. He played fifteen years. It's just
a ridiculously ten in there. Always like going over the
top for Tom Brady. S super is not that grave.
Ships did he have a Jerry Rice? He won two
Super for he won two Super Bowls. Way he threw
two touchdown one total touchdown and two Super Bowls. Chris
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and I'm always about him him. All the people credit
about Tom Brady, about you, stop with you, worship stop
worshiping Tom Brady. Yes it is, give me a name
of it. No, I'm telling you what ain't him? Who
is it? Michael Jordan, Michael Jeffrey Jordan was a better leader.
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Mike was a great leader. He beat up teammates, he
had to get their attention. Did it work? Mike how
asked Bill Cartwright how playing with Michael Jordan, Bill Cartwright
got championships with him. Bill Cartwright told him if you
if you ever say something like that again, you're not
don't pass me the BOBMA break your legs. And I
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love Michael Jordan and think he was a great leader,
but there's nothing like that on Tom Brady's record. This
Tom Brady worship is just saying it. But give me
some fact. I just gave you one. Michael Jordan. To me,
it's the greatest everything, everything that Michael Jordan did. I
watched his cool and the Tom Brady stuff is over
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the top. That he didn't do anything to win the
Super Bowl is past year and when they won the
first Super Bowl, leaders won first Super Bowls a random better.
He had one touchdown and the people stop. And they've
also had great defense. He's been lucky more than anything.
Chris he threw a game losing pick that got called
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back from an off side that his fault. You wouldn't
be saying that if that, if that place do Michael,
you wouldn't be saying that Michael Jordan committed an offensive
foul on his last championship shot against Utah. Was that
not luck? That's not a call based on what he did.
Like talking about he actually found that everybody can see
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you just even Jordan would have to admit that all
you Tom Brady goys, y'all need to stop with them.
You're so anti anti Brady. Like a time, I'm not
a worship guys god worshiping him. Plus, baby, he had
no touchdowns in the super Bowl. Is the greatest leader,
so he doesn't get so he doesn't get credit for
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that Super Bowl. And that's what you always Jerry Brashos first,
this is what everybody does. When you can't get any
any Finnish stats or anything that discernible that you could see,
you come up with some false narrative about what a
great leader is. Dak Prescott's a third tier quarterback. He's
a great lead. You know why because because you don't
have any A blind man can see that. Dak Prescott,
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he had all the right things about Ezekiel not being
in camp, and he came in there as a fourth
round draft and and he and Tony Romo, the fan favorite,
the organization favorite, gets hurt. He steps right in and
leads them to the playoffs, and he also led to
He also led them to the super Bowl last year. Right,
he's one more regular season game games? They any quarterback
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in the league accept Tom Brad that's bolder, dash and
poppy call. That's that nonsense. That sweet Stone, that's that.
You can't see that Tom Brady, that's that you can't
see leadership, Oh, Zach dak Prescott leadership, That that's nonsense.
Go out, you want leadership, leadership, readership by example. Go
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out and get the job. Make sure everybody's in petition
to intangible I don't I do believe it. Intangibles, whatnot, whatever.
Everybody always giving agible, giving people uh, worshiping guys like
Tom Brady and people Tim Tebow tangibles. Him. Tebow's just
a winner. Tim Tebow's just a winner. He might not
be able to practice, he might not be able to
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throw the ball fifteen yard, but he got in chance
he could lead man. He was in college. That was
all I heard about Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow, My, I
don't know why you bringing Tim Tebow, and it is
because he's another guy. Everybody tried to tell me he
was a great lay about Tim t Well, he was
in college. He definitely was in college. That's undeniable, and
so is the fact that Brady's a great Leader's undeniable.
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And you want to bring up stats when he loses
and doesn't rock the house. What about two years ago
when he threw for five hundred yards more than any
other quarterback in NFL history in a playoff game and
they lost? What about that? Would you rather which performance
was better? I'll take the two hundred and sixty two
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yards and a w to bowl get all the credit.
Have to be the one to get all the shine.
A great leader doesn't care if he's the Finals or
the NBA or NFL Super Bowl MVP. He doesn't care
about saying I'm going to Disney World at the end
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of the game on a commercial. He cares about the W,
the trophy, the hardware,
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brush and Rod Harker. Speaking of magic, the New
England Patriots found some money to pay Tom Brady. I'm
gonna call it. I'm gonna have a little fun with it. Rob.
I know it's not really this, but I'm gonna call
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it a two year, seventy million dollars contract extension for
Tom Brady because next year he would make thirty million,
the year after that he would make thirty two million,
and this year they tacked on in that eight million.
Two is already fifteen, so you get twenty three instead. Now,
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of course it's kind of a strange contract in those
last two years. I guess the best way to put
it is, aren't guaranteed. Wait a minute, So, so then
did they just basically gave him eight million dollars? You're
sitting around trying to poke it shuts out, like they
rewarded a quarterback who won a Super Bowl without throwing
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a touchdown? Is that what you're telling me, Chris? He's
so great that they wouldn't even guarantee the contract. Why not?
He's the gold according to So why what does that matter?
Because he's forty two years? What say matter? Weren't you
the one on Friday spouting about you must have said
it six times? Father Time is undefeated. Lebron's facing his
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biggest nemesis, yet his name is father time. T I
m father Time? Is that me and I did an
excellent Uh? If you know that, you know that you're
smiling and I can see wow, you know that was good.
I was pretty good. So that's he's forty two, rob?
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Why should I mean? Come on? They gave him an
eight million dollar raise, which he deserves. In fact, I'm
gonna say this, and I think you know it's true.
Whatever they had given him, if they would have given
him a real contract extension that's guaranteed, and it would
have been worth forty million dollars a year, totally resetting
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the market, he would have been worth that because what
he has done for them nine super Bowl appearances, six
super Bowl championships. You know what the New England Patriots
were before Tom Brady got there. They would made him
a Bill Belichick out there, both of them. But all
I don't remember Tom Brady getting fired anywhere or benched anywhere. No, right,
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Jay didn't. He didn't Michigan play Michigan without Tim Braid.
Remember Michigan Belichick. I think Belichick is a great co Chris,
you remember Michigan career masking? You remember? Okay, it matters
what you did? Why sixth? Why why was he the
sixth drafted a sixth round? Because you're star in college? Insult? No,
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I'm just so star hard, Okay, I'm just saying. I mean, really,
it just showed that that just makes the story that
much better that he was drafted in the sixth round
and has become the greatest quarterback of all time. Or
even someone like you has to put him into what
top three? I mean, come on, I'd have to consider it.
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You know, I think you got him second behind Montana.
Don't put me on the spot right now, are you
donec You hate to give him a little love, even
a little light. You hate to give him. I'm done.
Go ahead, because I'm gonna respond to whatever nonsense you're
about to say. Go ahead, Hello, is this on the
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New England Patriots? Standing up? The Patriots cue the patriotic music.
Just made the worst decision in the history of the
National Football League. How could you give an old, decrepit
man who's gonna be forty two any day now, already
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forty two a contract? That's why it was August third.
I do remember that only because Skip's wife, Ernestein's born
on that day, not because of Tom Brady. But anyway,
how did you give this man a raise of eight
million dollars? He already had a contract. Did you see
him in the Super Bowl? He was pathetic, He moved
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like the tin man. How many touchdowns did he have?
Chris zero? How many interceptions one? How many fumbles one?
How many barely through? How many w my turn or not?
Tom Brady doesn't deserve a raise. He's the first player
in NFL history who's collecting three paychecks, his pay his
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Social Security, and his pension. Enough already, why are you
doing this? This is just to pacify him. He had
a deal that he's signed in good faith. He had
a terrible Super Bowl. He's on the did you see
the video of him and his girl and then his
daughter falling off the cliff. That's tom Brady's career. Tom
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Brady doesn't deserve another nickel. He's been paid for the past.
From here on out, tom Brady's finished, washed up, A
has been I was, but never was again, will never be.
That's what he is. Stop it when you put him
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and better away money. He put a better numbers last
year than Aaron Rodgers. I don't care about Nobody brought
up aarer. Here we go with Chris, Nobody brought upon
rog injured. Aaron Rodgers is a standard. He's one of
the greatest quarterbacks we've ever seen. He's still in his prime.
And yet the old, the decrepit, the bout to fall
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off the clue, No, he fell off. Brady put up
better numbers than Aaron Rodgers, and can we go here's
the highlight of tom Brady's season last year. We're strolling
ten years by Tom Brady. That's right, that's what it was.
That was from the Patriots radio network. That wasn't the
Steelers radio network. That was from the Patriots radio network.
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Because he couldn't throw the ball out of bouts. Remember
he got picked off. He was trying to chuck it
to the sidelines. Chris Broussard, the Patriots have lost their way.
They have always cut bait sooner rather than later with
aging players. That's why they've been able to sustain winning
over all these years. And this is when the franchise
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goes the other way, when they get sentimental, when they
stopped looking at the facts and looking at age, they
have turned the corner. They will regret this when Jimmy
Garoppolo becomes the star in the NFL and the Patriots
are going the other way, They'll remember they had that
guy and they fell in love with Tom Brady's ghost.
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This is getting ridiculous. I'm me seriously, You're bringing up
Jimmy Garoppolo, who can't even stay healthy. And since they
parted ways with Jimmy Garoppolo, they've only reached two Super Bowls.
Tim Brady's only thrown for more yardage than any quarterback
in any playoff game period. Two years ago in the
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Super Bowl. Did he win? Last year? Did he win
that game? Okay, all that matters as you won? Did
he win? You can't have it both ways, mister Parker.
Two years ago he was tremendous statistically, but they lost,
so you give him no credit. Last year he was okay, No,
he was bad, saying he was bad sixty two yards.
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He was bad twenty one for thirty five two hundred
and sixty two yards and he had no interceptions, a
pick and a fumble. He was bad last year. I
wasn't bad. He was better than Jared Goff, that's for sure.
Would got the W he was bad to have me
both ways? What would you rather have? The individual stats
and performance or the W? Which one? I can't hear
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you something on my headphone and I figured as much
to the Patriots, Are you kidding me? If they had
given him twenty million to pay him thirty five million
this year, it would have been justified. Chris in Detroit,
the tallest building in Detroit is the Panop Scott Building.
The Patriots would have been better off taking that eight
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million dollars to the top floor and just throwing it off.
It's the same thing then giving Tom Brady eight million
dollars more than he deserved. Dare you bring up Detroit
and they're woful? Football History of discussion about Tom Brady
the Lions aren't fit to be in the same paragraph
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to the loom, the same sentence as Tom Brady in
the New England Patriots. Every expert worth is sought has
the Patriots as a favorite to reach the AFC Championship Game.
What are you talking about? How bet you right here,
right now still is not the highest paid quarterback in
the league, but the six highest paid quarterback in the league.
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And on top of all that, for your spiel, the
Patriots somehow, I don't understand it, but somehow giving Brady
eight million dollars extra put give him five point five
million dollars more underneath the salary cap. I'll give you.
Wait now, I don't know how it works, but they
actually save rumors the cap because they're probably squeezing somebody
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else out. But the point of it is, I would
be the first one to tell you. I'll be the
first one to tell you they're not going to the
FC Championship. And I'll bet you twenty wings in a
large diet coke right here, right now. Tired of your
wing bets, I'm tired of the wing bet. When it's time,
I'll bet one but now, but there'll be a new
way to work to bet wings. All right, we'll figure
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that right, not right now, but the Patriots are right
up there and everybody knows it. You're crazy to say,
I mean, are you serious he's still underpaid. He ain't
underpaid at forty two years old, coming coming on Super
Bowl one where he got him to the super Bowl championship.
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There's nothing else, Rob, there's nothing more. You need this,
Terry Brass. I'll get credit when they won their first
Super Bowl nine to six, sip paid mets sip Payton
madd't get a new deal when Broncos won the Super Bowl.
Oh no, that was no you know why bad all
Now look and now he's saying he's better, he want
a super Bowl Crisp Hair, Yes, man, they ran Peton No,
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it was good. I give him credit. They ran him
out of town on a rail and they won the
Super Bowl. Why couldn't they do it again? With that defense?
What it can we? I mean, really, you gotta look
at the specifics. Peyton Manning wasn't even close in his
last year to what Tim Brady was last season, not
even close. And you know it, you know it. You're
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playing games. They looked the same in the Super Bowl
aren't falling for it. Peyton Manning didn't come anywhere near
two hundred and sixty two yards in his last Super Bowl.
Didn't even throw for a hundred I think it was
ninety one. Yeah, you find out, but it still was
ally through for three times more. Yea what I'm thinking.
I think Peyton Manning threw for one touchdown and Brady
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didn't even throw for a touchdown. Matter he's gonna get
all that information, does not matter. The Patriots have fallen
in love with the past. He's not worth being, not
worth done for them. In fact, this is great for
him because if he doesn't play well this year, then
they can move forward from him next year. So Peyton
Manning say he doesn't deserve a raise, Come on, Rob
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was one forty one? Come come back on, Rob g
has the numbers. That's right. Peyton Manning and Super Bowl
fifty against the Panthers thirteen of twenty three, one forty one,
one interception, one lost fumble, Very Tom Brady ESK. If
you ask Brady through for two sixty two the same thing,
what's the difference? One one two two? So gave up
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the football and threw a pick be sure to catch
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Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific
on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Of course,
the highlight of that weekend is are the speeches. And
we have seen, you know, in the past. Do you
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remember Kelln Winslow who spoke out strongly to speed yes
for affirmative action in his speech. I can't remember what
year it was, but he spoke out strongly about that.
And we've seen, you know, some great just speeches. I mean,
it's always great to see what a guy's gonna come
up with, you know, whether they're thanking their families, their parents,
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they're talking about their upbringing, thanking coaches, just reminiscing about
some of the great times with teammates, the challenges they've overcome.
It's always great. It was really a tear jerker this
year for sure, and Ed Reid really was it. Friday
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night was the Hall of Fame game, and that's when
he stole the show by wearing a T shirt. They
typically wear the Hall of Fame polos, but he didn't
wear it, and he wore a T shirt with the
pictures of may All or certainly many of the African Americans,
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the unarmed African Americans who had been shot down by police,
Trey ViOn Martin, Eric Garner, Tamir Rice Son, and so forth.
Sandra Bland We're on his T shirt and others as well.
And then in his speech he mentioned mental health and
how you know that's that's something that we really need
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to take care of and try to address as a nation.
And then champ Bailey went even a step further and
really talked emotionally about you know, African American players. You know,
obviously so many of them are in the Hall of Fame.
The NFL itself is almost seventy percent black, the NBA
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is near almost eighty percent, about seventy five percent black,
and he champ Bailey talked about, you know, we obviously
see some race ism in society, and he talked about
how the same aggressiveness and size that African American men
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in particular are celebrated for on the football field, oftentimes
is something that is used as an excuse to look
down on them, mistreat them, and fear them in general. Society,
fear them to a point where it could even end
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the life in their lives. And so here's what Champ
Bailey said about that in his Hall of Fame speech.
The first thing people see when they look at me,
it's not a Pro football Hall of Famer or a
husband or a father. They view me first as a
black man. So on behalf of all the black men
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that I've mentioned tonight, and many more out there who've
had the most of the same experience if I've had
in my lifetime. We say this to all of our
white friends when we tell you about our fears. Please
listen when we tell you we're afraid for our kids.
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Please listen when we tell you there are many challenges
we face because of the color of our skin. Please listen,
and please do not get caught up in how the
message is delivered. Yes, most of us are black men,
our athletes, but we are black men. First. Understand this.
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The things that make us great on the field, like
our size and our aggression, are the same things that
can get us killed off the field. I believe if
we start listen, there's no telling the progress we can make.
All of us are dad's sons, brothers, your friends. Oh,
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we all understand that if we can't get our friends
to listen, then no one will. And to my black brothers,
if you do not have anything positiive to say about
our social challenges, please keep your mouth shut. All right, Rob,
I love the first right, No I do here man. No,
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I think that when you're giving the mic and it's
your moment, you get to talk about whatever it is
you want doesn't have to be football. Some people go,
who's the old thing about that? Who's supposed to be
only about football? No it's not. And I tell people
stop using that as an excuse because it's not true.
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If it was only about football, they wouldn't wear pink
cleats and pink socks. They wouldn't wear it at a
football game. That's for breast cancer awareness. I'm not against it,
but don't act like we only care about football. We don't.
When the NFL took away to Super Bowl from Arizona,
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you know why they took it away because they didn't
have them morein Luther King Holiday. What does that have
to do about football, Chris? Nothing? So it can't only
be when it's something that you can make money off
of or something that you can stick your chest out
and feel good about. I love that those guys were
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willing to take their moment in the sun and talk
about stuff that really matters. That might be the only
time that those guys will have the attention of masses
and millions of people. Chris, that's the right platform, that's
the right stage. Talking to your your buddies in the barbershop.
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It's not gonna change anything. Everybody you're talking to in
your family and the barbershop, they know it. Talk to
the masses you have, you have the undefined attention. Are
they gonna get up and walk out? Chris? No, I
loved every minute of it, and I thought it was
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the right time and the right moment. Yeah, I agree
with you wholeheartedly. Like you said, at that time, it's
your moment. You can say whatever you want in your
time that is allotted and generally, and I'm I fall
into this category too, and I'm sure you probably do.
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Most people do. When someone speaks out about social issues
that we agree with, we love it. And when they
speak out an athlete and entertainer or somebody speaks out
about social issues that we don't agree with, we hate it.
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Be quiet, just play ball. We don't want to hear that.
Here's the thing, rob the social issues that champ Bailey
addressed or issue everyone in this country should agree with
innocent men and sometimes children or women being killed by
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our police force. A large segment twelve thirteen percent of
the population fearing that when their children go outside, or
even them as adults go out, there's a possibility that
something could go the wrong way and they could get killed.
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And part of the problem. Well, let me get to
this point. I like that champ Bailey addressed our white friends,
the white fans that cheered him and cheered aad Reid
and cheered Tony Gonzalez and all the other players of
color who were celebrated at the Hall of Fame. Because
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because of the fact that white Americans are nearly sixty
five percent of the population in this country, because they
have well over ninety percent of the wealth in this country,
because they run all of the economic and judicial institutions
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in this country, they have to address these sitchens situations
as well. It can't just be African Americans. I like
that Steve Kerr has spoken out against racial injustice. I
like that Gregg Popovich has spoken out against racial injustice.
There were whites that marched with Martin Luther King and
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helped the civil rights games that were earned in the sixties.
I'm telling you these owners in the NFL and the NBA,
if they spoke out, forget given the players ninety million dollars,
that was nice of the NFL owners, But if they
just spoke out passionately about the racial injustice that they
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see that their players are wearing T shirts about and
kneeling about. If they spoke to their politician friends, if
they spoke to their lawmaking friends that the chiefs of
the police departments passionately and said this has got to stop,
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it would stop. I mean, there obviously could be accidents
here or there, but for the most part, it would stop.
And so champ Bailey was right on the money and saying, look,
I know this is not your experience. So you think
it's all you know. You don't. You can't imagine, you know,
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being afraid of the police or being you know, mistreated
for no reason by law enforcement. But believe us when
we tell you, because it's happening. And I'm gonna say
this route I'm reading a book, I said. I went
to the beach this weekend and I was reading a
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book called Waking Up white and finding myself in the
story of Race. It's by Debbie Irving. She's a white
woman that grew up very very privileged, I mean, far
more privileged than most white people. And she talked about
how she discovered she had always tried to work with
African Americans and help them, and it never there was
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always tension, and it just never seemed right. And then
she really began to learn true American history. She learned
about the GI Bill and how in her own family,
her own family, when her father came back from World
War Two, that the GI Bill allowed him to get
subsidized housing and free tuition to college and law school,
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law school, okay, And how the GI Bill was virtually
even though there wasn't an official law, but the way
it was carried out, no African Americans who had fought
in the war, very very tiny percent, only like two
percent of the GI Bills moneys went to African Americans,
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even though millions had fought in that war, or hundreds
of thousands or thousands. So that she began to recognize
what we talk about when we say white privilege. And
part of the problem in our country is that we're
learning two different histories we learned typical American history, which
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glorifies it, and then African Americans we know our own
history that is generally not really taught to the public
in schools and really all of its entirety. And so
that is the root of the problem. So I would
recommend to all of our listeners, white, black, whatever you're race,
check that book out, Waking Up White by Debbie Irving.
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It's a great book to read, and I think it
understanding what she's talking about can help us heal this
racial divide has been in this country since its existence
and before. I will always applaud people who just will
stand up, and you just mentioned Steve Kerr Pop. There
are guys who are just you know what, they're basketball coach,
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but our bigger to you know, I always say, the
only thing, Chris, then the bad guys are when good
people turn away and don't do anything, they're the only
they're worse than those guys because well because when when
you do that, you allow that stuff to go on
because it's not happening to you. Right, do you understand
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what I'm saying. That's not the way it's supposed to be,
you know, right from wrong, and you should not turn
your back and the good people. And we've seen this
civil rights, Chris. It wasn't just black people out there.
Go go watch the video. Go watch it. The underground
railroad with slaves, right, white people facilitated that. Yes, So
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those were good people, honest people who didn't believe in
what was going on, and we're willing to do what
was right. That's all it is. Be sure to catch
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I still think the Hatreds made a mistake. You know.
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It's one thing to pay the girls because they're trying
to go to college, But to just give Tom Brady
extra money for no reason. I don't get it. I'm sorry,
Are you crazy? And I'm not buying it? No, I'm
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just give away money, Chris, that's what you do. Just
give it a one dollars. Still he's making twenty three million.
That's twenty that's eight million bore market value. Not for
forty two year old broken down quarterbacks who just led
you to the super Bowl, not only the last year
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of victory, but he led you to the Super Bowl
twice two straight years. Who else has done that? And
they got five point five million dollars worth of cap
room out of it. I don't know how, but they did.
When paid Manning turned in kind of a super Bowl.
He threw for half the yard the Bowl throws. For
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the second half of the season, Tom Brady outgunned Patrick
Mahomes Jared Goff on the way to that Super Bowl.
Stop it. In fact, I'm about to say something you're
not going to like, but try as you might, it's undeniable.
And I want names. I don't want just know. I
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want you to name somebody who tops Brady in this category.
I really think Rob Tom Brady is the greatest leader,
oh god, in American team sports history. And here's why.
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He is ego less but yet not a pushover. Okay,
his ego doesn't control him. He's not you know, abrasive, arrogant,
doesn't get on guy's nerves because he's arrogant, but yet
he's able to lead men. He's right right when he
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needs to be on the sidelines. He doesn't take himself
too seriously, but he's not to be clowned. He's willing
to take less money for the betterment of the team.
He's secure. That's part of being a great leader. He's secure.
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He's not measuring himself. But I gotta make more money
than every other quarterback. I'm better than him. I should
be making more. Oh my gosh, so and those making
more than me. And the tone that that sets in
the locker room is tremendous. And all the other players,
if he steps in line, then they all all got
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a step in line. And he's coachable. He can be
yelled at, he can be criticized, and again, if he
can take it, then everybody else, from the lineman to
the skilled positions to the special teamers can take it.
And as Michael holly So pointed out, so eloquent in
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the first hour, He's done it for twenty years, Homer.
He is leading men who were his age. He's leading
men who were children barely born when he entered the league.
He's able to relate to the twenty something millennials, and
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he was able to relate to the forty somethings who
are in his generation. I'm sorry. I love Michael Jordan,
I love Lebron James, I loved Tim Duncan, But who Rob?
I love Terry Bradshaw. I love Joe Montana, But who Rob? Chris?
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You you've been a better leader. I mean, honestly, who you?
Michael Jordan has been a better leader than Tom Brady.
But yes, yes, and your whole thing give me high.
What do you mean how? Because Jordan was a great leader?
He leave me how he was a better leader. He
led by example. He'd never put the oldess on anybody else.
He always was willing to take the brunt of whatever
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was going on. I never heard Brady's not know. All
I'm saying is this is just an overreaction to Tom Brady.
What makes him better? If you want to say he's equal,
you haven't given me anything to say Jordan was a
better leader. I don't giving me to say maybe the
same when you're giving me this. Oh, tom Brady's done this,
Tom Brader little his mind. Give you an example. Tom
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Brady hasn't said a great example by taking less money
he's not because he's heard of other players by doing that.
That's not a great example of what well, Mike, Tom,
why give me out? No he did not know, He
did not. Michael Jordan was never the highest player his team.
But that wasn't the last two years. Yeah, but that's
not that he took LUs money, Tom Brad. Here's the
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other part he did. He's trying to raise the stink
Tom Brady. Also, when you talk about the whole money aspect,
they didn't spend the money on players. You use the
same example. No, it's not as Tom Brady did. He
always go Tom Brady, he did more with less, but
he gave up money. But he gave up money for
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the team. Why did he give the money up for
the team? Why did he give the money up for teams?
I'm asking you, bradies, what did he give the money
up for that team? No, it's not as brady as
for fall because he should have demanded if I'm giving
up money, why and I'm taking less money plays? No,
you should go out and get me some better players
because I'm giving up money. Why he's winning with what
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he's got. No, it's ridiculous. Why did I have to
give it all the best receiver he'd ever played with.
They didn't win it. Randy Moss well because Tom Brady
wasn't that good. And that Super Bowl. Everything you bring
giving somebody else, I'm giving you. And I'm telling you
Jordan didn't make a making. It's a prison off the moment.
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Here we go Tom Brady. The greatest moment is twenty
years nine super He went ten years. When I win
in years, do you remember those ten years? He certainly did.
The greatest leader there come on ten years he didn't win.
To give me ten years when winning. Michael Jordan didn't
win ten the freaking years career he didn't. I'm talking
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about ten years stopped. He played fifteen years. It's just
a ridiculously ten in there. Always like going over the
top for Tom Brady. S super is not that grave.
Ships did he have a Jerry Rice? He won two
Super for he won two Super Bowls. Way he threw
two touchdown one total touchdown and two Super Bowls. Chris
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and I'm always about him him. All the people credit
about Tom Brady, about you, stop with you, worship stop
worshiping Tom Brady. Yes it is, give me a name
of it. No, I'm telling you what ain't him? Who
is it? Michael Jordan, Michael Jeffrey Jordan was a better leader.
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Mike was a great leader. He beat up teammates, he
had to get their attention. Did it work? Mike how
asked Bill Cartwright how playing with Michael Jordan, Bill Cartwright
got championships with him. Bill Cartwright told him if you
if you ever say something like that again, you're not
don't pass me the BOBMA break your legs. And I
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love Michael Jordan and think he was a great leader,
but there's nothing like that on Tom Brady's record. This
Tom Brady worship is just saying it. But give me
some fact. I just gave you one. Michael Jordan. To me,
it's the greatest everything, everything that Michael Jordan did. I
watched his cool and the Tom Brady stuff is over
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the top. That he didn't do anything to win the
Super Bowl is past year and when they won the
first Super Bowl, leaders won first Super Bowls a random better.
He had one touchdown and the people stop. And they've
also had great defense. He's been lucky more than anything.
Chris he threw a game losing pick that got called
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back from an off side that his fault. You wouldn't
be saying that if that, if that place do Michael,
you wouldn't be saying that Michael Jordan committed an offensive
foul on his last championship shot against Utah. Was that
not luck? That's not a call based on what he did.
Like talking about he actually found that everybody can see
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you just even Jordan would have to admit that all
you Tom Brady goys, y'all need to stop with them.
You're so anti anti Brady. Like a time, I'm not
a worship guys god worshiping him. Plus, baby, he had
no touchdowns in the super Bowl. Is the greatest leader,
so he doesn't get so he doesn't get credit for
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that Super Bowl. And that's what you always Jerry Brashos first,
this is what everybody does. When you can't get any
any Finnish stats or anything that discernible that you could see,
you come up with some false narrative about what a
great leader is. Dak Prescott's a third tier quarterback. He's
a great lead. You know why because because you don't
have any A blind man can see that. Dak Prescott,
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he had all the right things about Ezekiel not being
in camp, and he came in there as a fourth
round draft and and he and Tony Romo, the fan favorite,
the organization favorite, gets hurt. He steps right in and
leads them to the playoffs, and he also led to
He also led them to the super Bowl last year. Right,
he's one more regular season game games? They any quarterback
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in the league accept Tom Brad that's bolder, dash and
poppy call. That's that nonsense. That sweet Stone, that's that.
You can't see that Tom Brady, that's that you can't
see leadership, Oh, Zach dak Prescott leadership, That that's nonsense.
Go out, you want leadership, leadership, readership by example. Go
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out and get the job. Make sure everybody's in petition
to intangible I don't I do believe it. Intangibles, whatnot, whatever.
Everybody always giving agible, giving people uh, worshiping guys like
Tom Brady and people Tim Tebow tangibles. Him. Tebow's just
a winner. Tim Tebow's just a winner. He might not
be able to practice, he might not be able to
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throw the ball fifteen yard, but he got in chance
he could lead man. He was in college. That was
all I heard about Tim Tebow. Tim Tebow, My, I
don't know why you bringing Tim Tebow, and it is
because he's another guy. Everybody tried to tell me he
was a great lay about Tim t Well, he was
in college. He definitely was in college. That's undeniable, and
so is the fact that Brady's a great Leader's undeniable.
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And you want to bring up stats when he loses
and doesn't rock the house. What about two years ago
when he threw for five hundred yards more than any
other quarterback in NFL history in a playoff game and
they lost? What about that? Would you rather which performance
was better? I'll take the two hundred and sixty two
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yards and a w to bowl get all the credit.
Have to be the one to get all the shine.
A great leader doesn't care if he's the Finals or
the NBA or NFL Super Bowl MVP. He doesn't care
about saying I'm going to Disney World at the end
(38:51):
of the game on a commercial. He cares about the W,
the trophy, the hardware,
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