January 10, 2020 • 34 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob debate which former Oklahoma City Thunder teammate was most out of line in their Twitter beef last night: Kendrick Perkins or Kevin Durant?, and discuss whether Aaron Rodgers or Lamar Jackson is under the most pressure heading into the divisional round of the NFL playoffs. And, Luka Jones from the hit Hulu show 'Shrill' stops by our Celebrity Corner to discuss his love of the Clippers, the KD-KP twitter beef, and much more!
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brush and Rod Parker. Last weekend was tremendous. Yeah,
four really good games this weekend. I think we're in
for another great weekend. Saturday, you got Minnesota at San Francisco,
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Then you got Tennessee at Baltimore. Then Sunday, Houston at
Kansas City, Seattle at Green Bay. Eight games, eight quarterbacks,
and Rob Parker. I contend that the orderback who is
under the most pressure to win, the quarterback who will
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be criticized the most if he doesn't perform well in
a loss, is none other than the great Aaron Rodgers.
And here's why I say it. One, if you look
at all the quarterbacks who are left, no one has
anything close to his resume. Now, Russell Wilson has been
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in the playoffs, and one what won fourteen games in
the playoffs or played. I'm sorry, I played fourteen games,
I believe, and Aaron Rodgers has played sixteen. Everybody else
is very new to this postseason stuff. Jimmy Garoppolo first
playoffs start. Kirk Cousins, we know its history, hadn't been
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able to win in the playoffs. Had a big win
last week, got the monkey off his back. I think
anything he does from here is gravy. Tennessee. You got
Ryan Anna Hill, I mean, really, you're expected that much
from him through for like eighty yards last week. Lamar
Jackson another young and I know he's had a great year,
but he's a young boy. Deond Then you got Deshaun Watson,
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another young boy. Patrick Mahomes a young inness as well.
So I think if the Green Bay Packers, after going
thirteen and three, after shoring up the defense, after shoring
up the running game, if they lose and Aaron Rodgers
is needed, he needs to do what he used to
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do three hundred some eight yards, three touchdowns. If he
needs to have a typical Aaron Rodgers game of yesterday,
a throwback game, and he doesn't do it, then he
will get criticized. He's always been able. He's always had excuses,
and some of them are legit explanations. The defense couldn't
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get it done, there was no running game. There won't
be any excuses if they lose and he doesn't deliver.
Now he throws for three hundred something several touchdowns and
that defense doesn't deliver and they lose, then you can't
kill him. But I think he will be critiqued hard
and harshly, and he is the quarterback under the most
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pressure to get it done. Couldn't disagree with you more.
I think it's Lamar Jackson. The two standpoints. A Lamar
has had this unbelievable regular season, and he's not just
playing for the Ravens, he's playing for quarterbacks of his ilk.
This whole there is no quarterback. Yes, it is this whole,
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this whole notion that I'm just saying that, this whole
notion that people are gonna be open to a quarterback
who can do what he does, where before they wouldn't
be as apt of changing their team to fit a
guy who can do what he does. Already last year
and he's a young guy, and I get it, but
last year he set the league on fire, winning like
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the last six games, and then he got to the
playoffs and he was stimied in the first half. People
were even calling and talking about putting Joe Flacco back
in because they felt like, well, we're down. He can't
mean the pocket passer to try to come back. There's
no time to run the football. So if he would
have had this great season, which has been unbelievable and
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not only, and he doesn't perform or they lose, the
whole conversation will be I told you, guys like this
can't win in the playoffs because we haven't seen it yet.
So he's playing for yes, the Ravens and what they've
done this year and all the stuff that he's accomplished,
which has been great, but also the naysayers who are
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ready to pounce on him because we saw it last
year in the playoffs the same team that he ran
all over with were the Chargers, and the regular season
met him a couple of weeks later and totally shut
them down. So this is what that's why I think,
and I'm not saying that Aaron Rodgers. Sure, if he
plays terribly and they lose, he's going to get criticized,
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but terribly I'm just saying if he doesn't play well,
But I do believe that it's Lamar who's playing for
something even bigger with opening the door to kick the door.
And if Lamar is as dominant as he was this year,
Chris and I'm talking about the playoffs where he he's
just uh dominant and he can um run the table right,
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run over them and everybody goes wild. They're going to
the super Bowl. They don't win the super Bowl, then
that changes everything. So I think there's a little added
pressure there on Lamar. Well, you're right in what you
said about Lamar Jackson, and if he doesn't have a
great game and they lose, right then there will be
criticism and you're right, a lot of people come out,
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see it doesn't the right and you know what I mean,
that is something that will come now if he can
shatter that the way he's done during the regular season,
where people say, oh, he can't keep this up, and
they just what they went nine eight or nine or
ten in a row and they went through good teams.
Was that what they wound up being? But it was
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awesome the stroke and they went through good teams to
do it. Patriots were undefeated when they knocked him off.
And even at that time, I mean you might look
back and say, maybe the Patriots aren't that good, but
I'm saying at that time they ain't. No. So I
just think that that's where a lot of the pressure
because this is a year he could win. Really and
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I'm looking at in the AFC. Why why can't the
Ravens win? Oh no, they can't. They can. But the
reason I say there's more pressure or Aaron Rodgers is
because of age. Like Lamar, I'm not going to kill
a guy in his second year as a starter. First
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year is a full time starter for not getting to
the super Bowl. I mean, you gotta learn. I'm not
gonna kill him because he's his second playoff game wasn't
up to snuff. And that's the difference. Like Aaron Rodgers. Again,
he's always had an explanation, an excuse for why he's
only got one super Bowl. People have said he's the
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greatest we's ever seen throw the football, and yet he's
only been to one super Bowl. Forget winning, he's only
been to one super Bowl. Yeah, but I think I think,
I think a revisionist history. The on site kick in Seattle,
they they were going to the Super Bowl title. I'm
not saying some of the excusers weren't legit. No, they're legit.
But still he's gotten a pass and now they gave
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him the defense, they gave him the run game. And
when Mike McCarthy, who's a good coach by all estimations,
when he was pushed out the door last year, a
lot of people put it on Aaron Rodgers. And now
you got this little hot shot play caller, Matt Lafleur,
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and the running game is looking good. The defense with
the free agents, you got the Smiths and all that there,
they're d n up read. If you don't deliver like
you always talk about Tom Brady. If they hold the
Seattle Seahawks to fourteen points, which is very possible, seventeen
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points and Rogers can't deliver, has no touchdowns, only has
one touchdown, averages five yards per timp something like that,
then he is going to be the one to get
the bulk of the criticism. Rob That's what and Lamar
has gotten. Some people rightly are gonna say he's young. No,
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but the only differences to other quarterbacks in the AFC
aren't these proven winners. They've won one. What is it
one playoff game? Tennah Hills won one? Who else am
I missing? Mahomes has one? Do you know to like
like like like you can't get through those You can't
get through those guys. Like seriously, you're you're the most
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dominant quarterback of the of the season, and nobody Tom
Brady's not in your way. It's not like you had
to go to Foxboro and beat Tom Brady or something.
There's nobody there so so yes, Chris, he's the second
year quarterback, but all the other three guys haven't done
enough in the postseason to where Lamar shouldn't be expected
to beat them. That's what I'm saying too. But I could,
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I could look at a lot of the guys in
the NFC as well, Kirk Cousins, Jimmy, but you got
a guy who you're playing the Bowl, but you're you're
in your own ballpark there. Lambo's gonna be cold. Their favorites,
they should be the TA, they should be the favorite favorite.
And if they don't get it, I mean, heck, Russell Wilson,
the Seahawks are beating up. Yeah, but worn out Russell
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West Russell Wilson, guy but but I've seen what his
running back was was sitting on the couch two weeks ago.
His running back was doing what weird two weeks ago.
I mean, Russell Wilson is going in there with his
troops less than on all twelve cylinders, and Green Bay
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is coming off this bye and they're thirteen and three.
I still believe that they're going to the Super Bowl.
I believe. I just believe where the wage set up,
and you know what what they have going with the
balance and my big things more even more reason why
if riders. But I don't look at it. But I
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don't look at it. This pressure from that standpoint, pressure
used to be aeron. If you don't have five touchdowns
and put up forty points, you got no shot to win.
That's what he used to have to face. That's not
the case now. And I'm the same point. And because
he won three games there were three and old when
he didn't even throw a touchdown, I'm just saying he
went him. No, he played within whatever the framework was,
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and it wasn't the end of the world that he
that he didn't do it in the regular season. Oh,
I'm just saying, it's a short menu ride postseason wins
they win, if they win playoff, if they win and
get to the super Bowl or win the super Bowl,
we'll see. I think Aaron Rodgers gonna have a great praise.
I think you'll have a great postseason and be honest,
I'll give him major credit. If he wins a super
Bowl and doesn't have a great game, no, I think
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he will. I don't think it matter if he wins
a super Bowl two hundred and three yards passing, no touchdown. No,
I'm not with that. I'm not really that's a Brady
super Bowl. I'm not. It doesn't count. No, it doesn't count.
So so you wouldn't give Aaron Rodgers credit. I would.
I would be like he rolled the back of the
defense Jones. No, I don't look at the devil. It's
not a team game. No, because I'm just saying when
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the same way that you could, you could count Peyton Manning. Yeah,
we count it. I just say that it's it ain't
Peyton Manning. I'm approved got you? Did you count? Got
a parting gift to you? Did you count it? Whose
career would you rather have Elies or Peyton's? I take Elis.
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You don't even believe that you would not see I
just said that, you know what, you wouldn't take. Paton
was like fourteen and thirteen or something. Go look it up.
He didn't have the greatest postseason. Peyton May was not
considered a great postseason quarterback. Peyton man he has two
Super Bowl shot and five MVPs or whatever. Five MVPs.
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He is one of the top ten quarterbacks and he
was fourteen and thirteen in the playoffs. So you you
really would rather take, don't I know you're just trying
to save face. I'm lost smiling. I'm smiling because you
would take Eli Manny's career over Peyton Mannies. I just
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seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeart Radio app. We started out Rob talking
about this is a nice it's been a great, great day,
you know, fun and camaraderie, friendship, all that, right, But
we gotta go to a topic that's not that friendly,
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and that is the beef, the Twitter beef between former teammates,
good friends, hopefully they're still good friends. And then work
this out eventually. But it's Kevin Durant and Kendrick Perkins
on Twitter going at it, rob G, can you explain,
give us the whole context of the issue. Yeah, just
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a quick summary now. A Boston Celtics reporter responded to
a tweet that Kendrick Perkins put out, saying basically saying
that Russell Westbrook was mister thunder. He's, you know, the
greatest thunder in history, not necessarily the best player, but
mister thunder. And which is true. And so the kind
of pointed out about Kevin duran question, right, So the
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reporter pointed out, Hey, what about Kevin Durant, And he
made some joke about Westbrook not being able to get
out of the first round, and Perk started it by saying, well,
I was there when Katie couldn't get out of the
second round without Russ, and then things kind of snowballed
out of control. Katie clapped back, Perk cap clap back
in but here getting called a coward. Katie clapped back
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with yeah, my center on those teams average two and three,
two points and three. He added Kendrick Perkins twice, and
it was like, but you played hard way to go
Champ and then Perk went new Clear you know where
he went, folks. He said, boys, stop it. You made
the weakest move in NBA history going to a seventy
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three win team that you had down three one. And
of course u k D shot back, and then Perk
went at h M again and said his move to
the Golden State Warriors was cowardly. So it got ugly,
and I don't think any fans loved it. But even
us in the media, it's a lot we can cringe
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a little bit, right, But I mean to see people
like that, even in our business. Sometimes we see our
people right in the media going at it on social media,
and it's like, dude, why why don't you have that
conversation on the phone if you got a disagreement or whatever,
rather than in public. Here here's the thing, though I've
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said this before, I think KD. I have no problem
with him getting on social media. A lot of people do.
I don't have a problem with him going back at reporters,
going back at players, going back at Joe Schmoe from Idaho.
You know, I mean, that's what he does. He'll go
at random guys. That just shows that he's the most sensitive. Well,
he is sensitive. But here's the thing, my my thing
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has always been my biggest concern with it is just
his mental health with it, because studies have been done
to show that social media can make people more depressed
and less happy, you know, because whether it's fomo fear
of missing out you're seeing all these other kids doing
all these great things and you're not all these fear
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of missing out, or if it's just other people criticizing
you and you reading all that, whatever it is. But
that's my biggest concern for Kevin Durant with the social media.
But if if he likes it, he's happy, and he
can still go out there and perform at the top
of his game, then hey, if that's what floats your boat, fine,
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But what I've always said Rob is this, Kevin Durant
needs to win gracefully more than anybody else. He don't
need to call people, don't brag about how much he's won,
call people out who don't win. Just when you won
your titles in Golden State, win gracefully. Everybody gave you props,
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you were the finals MVP, and and don't go at
anybody because it's too easy. That's the problem. It's and
I never killed Grant for going to Golden State, but
it's too easy for someone he's going at to just
be like, hold up, dude, who you calling out when
you went to go? You know? And that he went
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at Perk. I think he went it Perk first. I
think Perk's tweet was just a fact. Hey, you know
Katy couldn't get out of second round? How you killing Rock?
Thought it was cringe worthy? I thought, Perkins, I don't know,
I don't I don't know. I guess maybe are they
on PARS players? So for a lesser do you know
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what I'm saying, like the like for a lesser player
to kind of you know, I get it. I don't know, Chris,
it just seemed like it was unequal, and Perk really
went like for the juggular to meet, Well he did
and the other one. But it was hard. Yeah, but
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that who cared a great play? Right? Okay? You know,
I'm just saying he hit Perk basically as hard as
he could hit Perk. How else could he hit Perk?
He hit Perk as hard as he could two and three,
and Perk get him as hard as he could. You
you made a weak move, according to Perk and a
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lot of other people, and that's where it got ugly.
My thing is this, though, rob as, I would hate
to see a friendship destroyed over this, and that's what
I but man, they might hopefully they can get it
back together. Look Charles Barkley his relationship with Michael Jordan.
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They were close during playing days and then what he
what did he say that Mike? He criticized Mike as
an owner. I can't remember specifically, Mike and Mike didn't
like it. And from what you know, I hear they
aren't as close anymore, if they're close at all, And
so sometimes you know, that's how it is. But you
and I have always said, player that wants to move
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into the media, the thing you have to do is
you gotta be You can't let your friendships in a
league with that once you get into stop you from
being a once you get here. But you gotta also
be careful. We've seen other players don't just be shooting bullets,
you know what I mean, like like kind of just
throwing stuff out there that could hurt you as well.
Would you say that, Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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Like you have to have some degree of credibility. That's
what I mean. You just can't be like like Perks.
Got wasn't a star, he wasn't nearly as good as here,
and he got credibility. No, I get that. I'm just saying,
but it can also hurt you if you're a little
too over the top, and maybe you're not. Do you
think there's a hurt Perk. No, I don't think so. Perk.
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You know, he's a little like Oakley. Now he wasn't,
you know, the beloved Yeah, but he was kind of
that kind of player got you, Yeah, where people could
latch on the guys like that. I saw it for
I covered Oakley, you know what I mean when when
he was with the Knicks and he was beloved. I mean,
he wasn't the greatest player, wasn't about that, but he hustled.
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He gave you everything, you know what I mean, every
night and people love that. What do you think? See? Look,
I did not kill Kevin Durant for going to Golden State.
And one of the major reason I didn't was because
I felt like I didn't want to be what I
thought would be hypocritical, because I was like, look, this
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was this. I saw this with Lebron. People killed Lebron
when he went to Miami, but then when he won
the championships, all of a sudden, everybody was praising him.
He was winning MVPs and everything, and so I said
that day, the same thing's gonna happen. I'm not killing
Kevin Durant because when he wins a championship, two, maybe three,
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and he's maybe one of few finals MVPs, everybody's going
to praise him. So how can we kill him? They
say it was such a weak move, but then when
it comes to fruition and he wins, we're gonna praise
him for it. But my thing wasn't when I thought
it was a bad move for the NBA and mess
with the with the competitive balance. So my thing was,
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he's a free agent, Chris. He could do whatever he wants,
but this was a bad move. So it was really
more about that than it was about his right to
go anywhere. Do I think it looked good for him
or helped him at all? No, I don't think it
helped him. I think they don't think the move helped him. No.
I think I think it hurt him too. Champion, I
got that, but I think it hurt him from the
standpoint of how people looked at him. Okay, would you
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I mean we even agreed, but do you know, I
want to think about he got his championships and the legacy.
Let's if his legacy is better off but you But
you also have people like walk Clyde Frasier, who here's
a guy who was a great player in this league,
and some other people saying the top fifty. Right, he's
a top fifty player. A lot of people don't know.
You guys are young. Wal Clyde Frasier was a ball
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or right up, no doubt. So don't look at him
with the craziest best put the crazy suits and go
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He was
a straight up ball. Okay, So when guys like that go, oh,
you know, you really can't count on his asterisk next
to it. I'm just saying, he got his championships, he
balled out, he got the MVPs, he got the jump
in Lebron's face. We saw all of it, Chris, he's
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a great player. But there's still just a little bit
back there where you go, no, you're right, right, and
that's you and that's rob why I say he needs
to chill. Like, here's the deal. We see Shock and
Charles go at it, right, and and Shock's always got
the trump cards and rings right, the Barkley didn't. Was
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it Barkley that Wint even said Kobe got you those rings?
Obviously Shack was right. God was the most dominant player
in the league, even as good as well. Here's my point.
If you're Kevin Durant on that show and you you
can't say to Barkley you ain't got no rings. Why
Because Barkley's got the ultimate He can go nuclear, just
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like k Perk. That's why I say KD needs to
win gracefully. If you win it in Brooklyn, Brooklyn would
be different because it's a you know, it would kind
of prove you just went there and want it on
your own with Kyrie, right, and don't you don't need
to rub your ring. Don't rub those two rings and
people's face. But but but the whole idea that he
did decide to go somewhere where an organization you know
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I had never won and have to put in work.
You're going there to be the step chot. Even though
the Knicks are horrible. It's still their town. Like like
the same thing with Kawhen Kawhi coming to the Clippers
instead of the Lakers. It was laid out for him, right,
It was laid out for him, no question about it.
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Luca Jones. We want to welcome in him to him
into Celebrity Corner with the Eye Couple. Luca, how are you.
I'm good, How we're doing great? Thanks for joining us. Yes, yes, indeed. Now, look,
we heard that you were a Clippers fan before it
was trendy. And I gotta say this, Luca, it's a
lot of people saying that right now. Oh, I mean,
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I'm not sure if I can believe you, because all
of a sudden you got all these Clippers fans coming
out of the woods. So Luca, you gotta prove that
you were sitting in the section by yourself and the
old day, and you gotta prove. Give me some names.
I don't want to hear Chris Paul Blake Griffin's some
bad No, I don't want to hear Kawhire Pauld. You
give me some names when you were on starting F
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I came to LA in ninety seven, and like soon
after then, I was watching Michael Olowa, Candy and and
Darius Smilest all those guys playing because they were the
ticket to get. I mean, they were just easier to get,
you know, and like they were super exciting. They were
that everybody thought that young team you had Darius Miles,
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Quentin Richardson who was coaching. The name was what maybe
Larry No. I think I think Gentry might have been
coached at that time. Gentry maybe done Levy at some
point maybe. But yeah, but you're right, and people thought
that was gonna be a hot young team and obviously
it didn't. It didn't. Hey, hey, let me ask you
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about it. Sorry, no problem, let me let me ask
you about this. Uh, Kendrick Perkins, Kevin durand be, Oh
my goodness, what do you make of that. Whose side
are you on? I'm just thought, I'm honestly on the
of that happening more on Twitter because it was one
of the most entertaining things I thought yesterday. I mean,
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that was so exciting. But like to watch to watch
these like big guys like get in there and like
have it out in front of people is kind of fun.
And I'm sure those guys are both okay, So you
think I don't know, I don't, but I don't know
if I'm the thing that hurts me and I agree
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obviously is entertaining, gives us something to talk about as
great as a fan. But it does hurt me a
little that these guys were good friends. I'm not saying
they were best friends, but they were. They were good friends,
and it seems like that is in question now. I mean,
I'm sure it's gonna be a while before they talk
to each other, so that's a little bothersome, but hey,
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they both went there and it is what it is.
Do you how do you feel? Do you agree with
Perkins when he's said that k D's moved to Golden
State was weak and he's not a real champion. No, No,
I mean I get that that's like a very common
take or whatever. Uh, I understand that, like there's a
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sense and I mean, who am I to judge, like Katie,
but like there's a there's a sense in which like,
of course he chose to to join a situation that
was easier than the other people that have won championships,
but like, uh, no, I mean, I think he devil
was best for him, and it seemed like the OKC
situation understandably just wasn't the right chemistry for him, I think,
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And glad go ahead, No, no, you go ahead. I'm
glad that I'm glad that he's like, but now let
me try Brooklyn. Let me, you know, let me go,
let me show that that's not all I'm about. He's
done winning champions and no he's not. And that Luca
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point is so well taken because if it was just
about the easy way out, he wouldn't have gone to Brooklyn,
even though kayle We was going. So so I think
that's one thing. But I know it's a soft spot,
and we know that he's he's a pretty sensitive What
do you think about the Lakers? And and and and
uh I picked the Clippers to win the championship. Do
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you like what the Lakers have? I know you're a
Clippers fan, but how much do you fear them? Oh?
I mean as a Clippers fan, I fear the Lakers definitely.
I mean I've been I was at both the opening
game where the Clippers hunted the Lakers and uh and
also the Christmas Day game, and those were two of
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the best regular season games I've ever been to. So
you must be a season ticket holder. I'm a season
ticket holder on the Clippers, and then I found a
way into the Lakers. Nice. You're a real basketball guy
right there. I mean, I got it. This is what's
happening in La, right man. It's so exciting. I think
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that there are two title contenders, not just in the
same city, but in the same building. That's crazy. And
any basketball final is in LA should be so happy
and excited about that, I think. But yeah, I mean,
I think the Lakers could beat the Clippers. I think
the Clippers should be favorite thus in a seven game series.
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Right now, they're deeper and all that they've won two,
they've lost zero to that down rival. Well, what do
you guys think? We are joined by Luca Jones, who
plays Ryan on the Hulu TV show Shrill. I agree
with you. I mean, I've said before in the preseason
I think the Clippers should be the favorites. They're the
best team on paper. I picked the Lakers to overcome them.
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But yeah, they're right now. They're nipped neck and neck.
I know the Lakers have a much better record, but
the Clippers in the Lakers are clearly the two best
teams in the West. Hey, Luca, let's switch the baseball
and the Dodgers. All right, I know you're happy they
went to a World Series a couple of years in
a row to Nationals. Brohy, don't they want to spend
any money? Yeah? This is where you right there, Chris,
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because they don't get anybody like that. They haven't won
a World Series since nineteen eighty eight. Freedman, who's their
general manager team president, came from Tampa Bay where they
didn't have any money, and the Dodgers never get anybody.
How do you feel you frustrated as a Dodger fan.
I mean, I'm frustrated at like not winning. I'm also
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frustrated as like I went to both those World Series,
especially it's twenty seventeen one. I'm frustrated that it was
stolen from X by Houston because of because of the cheating. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that seems to be going around in baseball.
It does seem to be going around. But like I mean,
I think, look, as long as they're keeping us winning
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divisions and putting us in a situation situation to like
get to the World Series, you're not gonna get the
World Series every year. Even when you get there, you're
not gonna win. We should have won in twenty seven
team that was our title. But I think they're gonna
get us back. Now. Were you there? Were you there
when Washington, you know, won the five game series? Were
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you at the fifth game when people at Dodgers Did
you walk out? When? When up? When? Who was it?
Hit the Grand Slam? I just forgot, uh when I
never I never walk out, But I don't remember who.
I think you Howard Kendrick. Howard Kendrick hit the Grand Slam.
I was wondering if you walked out? No, I say
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through when they when they kept Clayton kersh I and
and I was with everybody else like we're all stunning,
going like why they have to keep him in? Like
I mean, he's our guy, but like to take him
out once to get this job done and use the
best pitch here for for for every every hitter and
get out of that game and get into the next series.
At that point felt like a big missed opportunity for us.
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All right, Luca, we got very We got about thirty
seconds forty five seconds left. I want to ask you,
obviously you're an actor now you you got your PhD
in philosophy, but gave it up to pursue acting. I mean,
you gotta tell us about your journey. I mean that
that's a heck of a move. I came out of here.
I thought I was going to be an actor and
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that it wasn't working out a long time ago, and
I just went back to school and then like I
went to USC for my PhD. And then uh, somewhere
in the middle of that, I started performing on the
side and I got really really lucky and started getting hired.
And so once I finished my PhD, I was like, well,
this is why I came out here back, so let's
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go for it. That's great, man, very lucky. That's great.
I'm thinking about I've been thinking about it the last
month or so. Of getting my PhD at USC. So
I'm no, I am I'm no. I'm thinking about it,
and uh, what time. Yeah, I'm teaching there as an
agg junct now, you know, in the Annenburgh School. Very cool. Yeah,
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So I'm thinking about it and I might have to
call you to think about just the PhD period and
whether or not whatever you want. I appreciate that, Luca.
Great stuff. And next time we're at a Laker or
a Clippers game, I guess we'll try to find you
where you are you down low? You see, I'm not low.
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I'm not, but I'm out. Well you're talking about a see.
So whether or not he has a girl on the
side or something, I don't know what you said, quick
quick contacts. Luca rob is a one to be comedian,
want to be funny. Thank you, Thank you, Luca, Thank you.
You just made this. That was the best birthday president.
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I was gonna say he got birthday. Thank you, Luca.
I was gonna say he's only got one problem, he's
not funny. I do you're gonna say that? All right?
All right, Luca, thanks a lot. You can check him out.
He plays Ryan on the Hulu TV show Shrill it's
all the rage right now. Thanks Luca, Thank you guys
very much.
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You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple with
Chris Brush and Rod Parker. Last weekend was tremendous. Yeah,
four really good games this weekend. I think we're in
for another great weekend. Saturday, you got Minnesota at San Francisco,
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Then you got Tennessee at Baltimore. Then Sunday, Houston at
Kansas City, Seattle at Green Bay. Eight games, eight quarterbacks,
and Rob Parker. I contend that the orderback who is
under the most pressure to win, the quarterback who will
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be criticized the most if he doesn't perform well in
a loss, is none other than the great Aaron Rodgers.
And here's why I say it. One, if you look
at all the quarterbacks who are left, no one has
anything close to his resume. Now, Russell Wilson has been
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in the playoffs, and one what won fourteen games in
the playoffs or played. I'm sorry, I played fourteen games,
I believe, and Aaron Rodgers has played sixteen. Everybody else
is very new to this postseason stuff. Jimmy Garoppolo first
playoffs start. Kirk Cousins, we know its history, hadn't been
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able to win in the playoffs. Had a big win
last week, got the monkey off his back. I think
anything he does from here is gravy. Tennessee. You got
Ryan Anna Hill, I mean, really, you're expected that much
from him through for like eighty yards last week. Lamar
Jackson another young and I know he's had a great year,
but he's a young boy. Deond Then you got Deshaun Watson,
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another young boy. Patrick Mahomes a young inness as well.
So I think if the Green Bay Packers, after going
thirteen and three, after shoring up the defense, after shoring
up the running game, if they lose and Aaron Rodgers
is needed, he needs to do what he used to
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do three hundred some eight yards, three touchdowns. If he
needs to have a typical Aaron Rodgers game of yesterday,
a throwback game, and he doesn't do it, then he
will get criticized. He's always been able. He's always had excuses,
and some of them are legit explanations. The defense couldn't
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get it done, there was no running game. There won't
be any excuses if they lose and he doesn't deliver.
Now he throws for three hundred something several touchdowns and
that defense doesn't deliver and they lose, then you can't
kill him. But I think he will be critiqued hard
and harshly, and he is the quarterback under the most
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pressure to get it done. Couldn't disagree with you more.
I think it's Lamar Jackson. The two standpoints. A Lamar
has had this unbelievable regular season, and he's not just
playing for the Ravens, he's playing for quarterbacks of his ilk.
This whole there is no quarterback. Yes, it is this whole,
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this whole notion that I'm just saying that, this whole
notion that people are gonna be open to a quarterback
who can do what he does, where before they wouldn't
be as apt of changing their team to fit a
guy who can do what he does. Already last year
and he's a young guy, and I get it, but
last year he set the league on fire, winning like
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the last six games, and then he got to the
playoffs and he was stimied in the first half. People
were even calling and talking about putting Joe Flacco back
in because they felt like, well, we're down. He can't
mean the pocket passer to try to come back. There's
no time to run the football. So if he would
have had this great season, which has been unbelievable and
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not only, and he doesn't perform or they lose, the
whole conversation will be I told you, guys like this
can't win in the playoffs because we haven't seen it yet.
So he's playing for yes, the Ravens and what they've
done this year and all the stuff that he's accomplished,
which has been great, but also the naysayers who are
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ready to pounce on him because we saw it last
year in the playoffs the same team that he ran
all over with were the Chargers, and the regular season
met him a couple of weeks later and totally shut
them down. So this is what that's why I think,
and I'm not saying that Aaron Rodgers. Sure, if he
plays terribly and they lose, he's going to get criticized,
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but terribly I'm just saying if he doesn't play well,
But I do believe that it's Lamar who's playing for
something even bigger with opening the door to kick the door.
And if Lamar is as dominant as he was this year,
Chris and I'm talking about the playoffs where he he's
just uh dominant and he can um run the table right,
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run over them and everybody goes wild. They're going to
the super Bowl. They don't win the super Bowl, then
that changes everything. So I think there's a little added
pressure there on Lamar. Well, you're right in what you
said about Lamar Jackson, and if he doesn't have a
great game and they lose, right then there will be
criticism and you're right, a lot of people come out,
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see it doesn't the right and you know what I mean,
that is something that will come now if he can
shatter that the way he's done during the regular season,
where people say, oh, he can't keep this up, and
they just what they went nine eight or nine or
ten in a row and they went through good teams.
Was that what they wound up being? But it was
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awesome the stroke and they went through good teams to
do it. Patriots were undefeated when they knocked him off.
And even at that time, I mean you might look
back and say, maybe the Patriots aren't that good, but
I'm saying at that time they ain't. No. So I
just think that that's where a lot of the pressure
because this is a year he could win. Really and
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I'm looking at in the AFC. Why why can't the
Ravens win? Oh no, they can't. They can. But the
reason I say there's more pressure or Aaron Rodgers is
because of age. Like Lamar, I'm not going to kill
a guy in his second year as a starter. First
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year is a full time starter for not getting to
the super Bowl. I mean, you gotta learn. I'm not
gonna kill him because he's his second playoff game wasn't
up to snuff. And that's the difference. Like Aaron Rodgers. Again,
he's always had an explanation, an excuse for why he's
only got one super Bowl. People have said he's the
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greatest we's ever seen throw the football, and yet he's
only been to one super Bowl. Forget winning, he's only
been to one super Bowl. Yeah, but I think I think,
I think a revisionist history. The on site kick in Seattle,
they they were going to the Super Bowl title. I'm
not saying some of the excusers weren't legit. No, they're legit.
But still he's gotten a pass and now they gave
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him the defense, they gave him the run game. And
when Mike McCarthy, who's a good coach by all estimations,
when he was pushed out the door last year, a
lot of people put it on Aaron Rodgers. And now
you got this little hot shot play caller, Matt Lafleur,
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and the running game is looking good. The defense with
the free agents, you got the Smiths and all that there,
they're d n up read. If you don't deliver like
you always talk about Tom Brady. If they hold the
Seattle Seahawks to fourteen points, which is very possible, seventeen
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points and Rogers can't deliver, has no touchdowns, only has
one touchdown, averages five yards per timp something like that,
then he is going to be the one to get
the bulk of the criticism. Rob That's what and Lamar
has gotten. Some people rightly are gonna say he's young. No,
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but the only differences to other quarterbacks in the AFC
aren't these proven winners. They've won one. What is it
one playoff game? Tennah Hills won one? Who else am
I missing? Mahomes has one? Do you know to like
like like like you can't get through those You can't
get through those guys. Like seriously, you're you're the most
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dominant quarterback of the of the season, and nobody Tom
Brady's not in your way. It's not like you had
to go to Foxboro and beat Tom Brady or something.
There's nobody there so so yes, Chris, he's the second
year quarterback, but all the other three guys haven't done
enough in the postseason to where Lamar shouldn't be expected
to beat them. That's what I'm saying too. But I could,
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I could look at a lot of the guys in
the NFC as well, Kirk Cousins, Jimmy, but you got
a guy who you're playing the Bowl, but you're you're
in your own ballpark there. Lambo's gonna be cold. Their favorites,
they should be the TA, they should be the favorite favorite.
And if they don't get it, I mean, heck, Russell Wilson,
the Seahawks are beating up. Yeah, but worn out Russell
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West Russell Wilson, guy but but I've seen what his
running back was was sitting on the couch two weeks ago.
His running back was doing what weird two weeks ago.
I mean, Russell Wilson is going in there with his
troops less than on all twelve cylinders, and Green Bay
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is coming off this bye and they're thirteen and three.
I still believe that they're going to the Super Bowl.
I believe. I just believe where the wage set up,
and you know what what they have going with the
balance and my big things more even more reason why
if riders. But I don't look at it. But I
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don't look at it. This pressure from that standpoint, pressure
used to be aeron. If you don't have five touchdowns
and put up forty points, you got no shot to win.
That's what he used to have to face. That's not
the case now. And I'm the same point. And because
he won three games there were three and old when
he didn't even throw a touchdown, I'm just saying he
went him. No, he played within whatever the framework was,
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and it wasn't the end of the world that he
that he didn't do it in the regular season. Oh,
I'm just saying, it's a short menu ride postseason wins
they win, if they win playoff, if they win and
get to the super Bowl or win the super Bowl,
we'll see. I think Aaron Rodgers gonna have a great praise.
I think you'll have a great postseason and be honest,
I'll give him major credit. If he wins a super
Bowl and doesn't have a great game, no, I think
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he will. I don't think it matter if he wins
a super Bowl two hundred and three yards passing, no touchdown. No,
I'm not with that. I'm not really that's a Brady
super Bowl. I'm not. It doesn't count. No, it doesn't count.
So so you wouldn't give Aaron Rodgers credit. I would.
I would be like he rolled the back of the
defense Jones. No, I don't look at the devil. It's
not a team game. No, because I'm just saying when
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the same way that you could, you could count Peyton Manning. Yeah,
we count it. I just say that it's it ain't
Peyton Manning. I'm approved got you? Did you count? Got
a parting gift to you? Did you count it? Whose
career would you rather have Elies or Peyton's? I take Elis.
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You don't even believe that you would not see I
just said that, you know what, you wouldn't take. Paton
was like fourteen and thirteen or something. Go look it up.
He didn't have the greatest postseason. Peyton May was not
considered a great postseason quarterback. Peyton man he has two
Super Bowl shot and five MVPs or whatever. Five MVPs.
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He is one of the top ten quarterbacks and he
was fourteen and thirteen in the playoffs. So you you
really would rather take, don't I know you're just trying
to save face. I'm lost smiling. I'm smiling because you
would take Eli Manny's career over Peyton Mannies. I just
told you. Be sure to catch live editions of The
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seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeart Radio app. We started out Rob talking
about this is a nice it's been a great, great day,
you know, fun and camaraderie, friendship, all that, right, But
we gotta go to a topic that's not that friendly,
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and that is the beef, the Twitter beef between former teammates,
good friends, hopefully they're still good friends. And then work
this out eventually. But it's Kevin Durant and Kendrick Perkins
on Twitter going at it, rob G, can you explain,
give us the whole context of the issue. Yeah, just
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a quick summary now. A Boston Celtics reporter responded to
a tweet that Kendrick Perkins put out, saying basically saying
that Russell Westbrook was mister thunder. He's, you know, the
greatest thunder in history, not necessarily the best player, but
mister thunder. And which is true. And so the kind
of pointed out about Kevin duran question, right, So the
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reporter pointed out, Hey, what about Kevin Durant, And he
made some joke about Westbrook not being able to get
out of the first round, and Perk started it by saying, well,
I was there when Katie couldn't get out of the
second round without Russ, and then things kind of snowballed
out of control. Katie clapped back, Perk cap clap back
in but here getting called a coward. Katie clapped back
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with yeah, my center on those teams average two and three,
two points and three. He added Kendrick Perkins twice, and
it was like, but you played hard way to go
Champ and then Perk went new Clear you know where
he went, folks. He said, boys, stop it. You made
the weakest move in NBA history going to a seventy
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three win team that you had down three one. And
of course u k D shot back, and then Perk
went at h M again and said his move to
the Golden State Warriors was cowardly. So it got ugly,
and I don't think any fans loved it. But even
us in the media, it's a lot we can cringe
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a little bit, right, But I mean to see people
like that, even in our business. Sometimes we see our
people right in the media going at it on social media,
and it's like, dude, why why don't you have that
conversation on the phone if you got a disagreement or whatever,
rather than in public. Here here's the thing, though I've
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said this before, I think KD. I have no problem
with him getting on social media. A lot of people do.
I don't have a problem with him going back at reporters,
going back at players, going back at Joe Schmoe from Idaho.
You know, I mean, that's what he does. He'll go
at random guys. That just shows that he's the most sensitive. Well,
he is sensitive. But here's the thing, my my thing
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has always been my biggest concern with it is just
his mental health with it, because studies have been done
to show that social media can make people more depressed
and less happy, you know, because whether it's fomo fear
of missing out you're seeing all these other kids doing
all these great things and you're not all these fear
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of missing out, or if it's just other people criticizing
you and you reading all that, whatever it is. But
that's my biggest concern for Kevin Durant with the social media.
But if if he likes it, he's happy, and he
can still go out there and perform at the top
of his game, then hey, if that's what floats your boat, fine,
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But what I've always said Rob is this, Kevin Durant
needs to win gracefully more than anybody else. He don't
need to call people, don't brag about how much he's won,
call people out who don't win. Just when you won
your titles in Golden State, win gracefully. Everybody gave you props,
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you were the finals MVP, and and don't go at
anybody because it's too easy. That's the problem. It's and
I never killed Grant for going to Golden State, but
it's too easy for someone he's going at to just
be like, hold up, dude, who you calling out when
you went to go? You know? And that he went
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at Perk. I think he went it Perk first. I
think Perk's tweet was just a fact. Hey, you know
Katy couldn't get out of second round? How you killing Rock?
Thought it was cringe worthy? I thought, Perkins, I don't know,
I don't I don't know. I guess maybe are they
on PARS players? So for a lesser do you know
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what I'm saying, like the like for a lesser player
to kind of you know, I get it. I don't know, Chris,
it just seemed like it was unequal, and Perk really
went like for the juggular to meet, Well he did
and the other one. But it was hard. Yeah, but
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that who cared a great play? Right? Okay? You know,
I'm just saying he hit Perk basically as hard as
he could hit Perk. How else could he hit Perk?
He hit Perk as hard as he could two and three,
and Perk get him as hard as he could. You
you made a weak move, according to Perk and a
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lot of other people, and that's where it got ugly.
My thing is this, though, rob as, I would hate
to see a friendship destroyed over this, and that's what
I but man, they might hopefully they can get it
back together. Look Charles Barkley his relationship with Michael Jordan.
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They were close during playing days and then what he
what did he say that Mike? He criticized Mike as
an owner. I can't remember specifically, Mike and Mike didn't
like it. And from what you know, I hear they
aren't as close anymore, if they're close at all, And
so sometimes you know, that's how it is. But you
and I have always said, player that wants to move
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into the media, the thing you have to do is
you gotta be You can't let your friendships in a
league with that once you get into stop you from
being a once you get here. But you gotta also
be careful. We've seen other players don't just be shooting bullets,
you know what I mean, like like kind of just
throwing stuff out there that could hurt you as well.
Would you say that, Yeah, you know what I'm saying,
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Like you have to have some degree of credibility. That's
what I mean. You just can't be like like Perks.
Got wasn't a star, he wasn't nearly as good as here,
and he got credibility. No, I get that. I'm just saying,
but it can also hurt you if you're a little
too over the top, and maybe you're not. Do you
think there's a hurt Perk. No, I don't think so. Perk.
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You know, he's a little like Oakley. Now he wasn't,
you know, the beloved Yeah, but he was kind of
that kind of player got you, Yeah, where people could
latch on the guys like that. I saw it for
I covered Oakley, you know what I mean when when
he was with the Knicks and he was beloved. I mean,
he wasn't the greatest player, wasn't about that, but he hustled.
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He gave you everything, you know what I mean, every
night and people love that. What do you think? See? Look,
I did not kill Kevin Durant for going to Golden State.
And one of the major reason I didn't was because
I felt like I didn't want to be what I
thought would be hypocritical, because I was like, look, this
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was this. I saw this with Lebron. People killed Lebron
when he went to Miami, but then when he won
the championships, all of a sudden, everybody was praising him.
He was winning MVPs and everything, and so I said
that day, the same thing's gonna happen. I'm not killing
Kevin Durant because when he wins a championship, two, maybe three,
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and he's maybe one of few finals MVPs, everybody's going
to praise him. So how can we kill him? They
say it was such a weak move, but then when
it comes to fruition and he wins, we're gonna praise
him for it. But my thing wasn't when I thought
it was a bad move for the NBA and mess
with the with the competitive balance. So my thing was,
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he's a free agent, Chris. He could do whatever he wants,
but this was a bad move. So it was really
more about that than it was about his right to
go anywhere. Do I think it looked good for him
or helped him at all? No, I don't think it
helped him. I think they don't think the move helped him. No.
I think I think it hurt him too. Champion, I
got that, but I think it hurt him from the
standpoint of how people looked at him. Okay, would you
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I mean we even agreed, but do you know, I
want to think about he got his championships and the legacy.
Let's if his legacy is better off but you But
you also have people like walk Clyde Frasier, who here's
a guy who was a great player in this league,
and some other people saying the top fifty. Right, he's
a top fifty player. A lot of people don't know.
You guys are young. Wal Clyde Frasier was a ball
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or right up, no doubt. So don't look at him
with the craziest best put the crazy suits and go
this guy doesn't know what he's talking about. He was
a straight up ball. Okay, So when guys like that go, oh,
you know, you really can't count on his asterisk next
to it. I'm just saying, he got his championships, he
balled out, he got the MVPs, he got the jump
in Lebron's face. We saw all of it, Chris, he's
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a great player. But there's still just a little bit
back there where you go, no, you're right, right, and
that's you and that's rob why I say he needs
to chill. Like, here's the deal. We see Shock and
Charles go at it, right, and and Shock's always got
the trump cards and rings right, the Barkley didn't. Was
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it Barkley that Wint even said Kobe got you those rings?
Obviously Shack was right. God was the most dominant player
in the league, even as good as well. Here's my point.
If you're Kevin Durant on that show and you you
can't say to Barkley you ain't got no rings. Why
Because Barkley's got the ultimate He can go nuclear, just
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like k Perk. That's why I say KD needs to
win gracefully. If you win it in Brooklyn, Brooklyn would
be different because it's a you know, it would kind
of prove you just went there and want it on
your own with Kyrie, right, and don't you don't need
to rub your ring. Don't rub those two rings and
people's face. But but but the whole idea that he
did decide to go somewhere where an organization you know
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I had never won and have to put in work.
You're going there to be the step chot. Even though
the Knicks are horrible. It's still their town. Like like
the same thing with Kawhen Kawhi coming to the Clippers
instead of the Lakers. It was laid out for him, right,
It was laid out for him, no question about it.
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(24:17):
Luca Jones. We want to welcome in him to him
into Celebrity Corner with the Eye Couple. Luca, how are you.
I'm good, How we're doing great? Thanks for joining us. Yes, yes, indeed. Now, look,
we heard that you were a Clippers fan before it
was trendy. And I gotta say this, Luca, it's a
lot of people saying that right now. Oh, I mean,
(24:39):
I'm not sure if I can believe you, because all
of a sudden you got all these Clippers fans coming
out of the woods. So Luca, you gotta prove that
you were sitting in the section by yourself and the
old day, and you gotta prove. Give me some names.
I don't want to hear Chris Paul Blake Griffin's some
bad No, I don't want to hear Kawhire Pauld. You
give me some names when you were on starting F
(25:00):
I came to LA in ninety seven, and like soon
after then, I was watching Michael Olowa, Candy and and
Darius Smilest all those guys playing because they were the
ticket to get. I mean, they were just easier to get,
you know, and like they were super exciting. They were
that everybody thought that young team you had Darius Miles,
(25:24):
Quentin Richardson who was coaching. The name was what maybe
Larry No. I think I think Gentry might have been
coached at that time. Gentry maybe done Levy at some
point maybe. But yeah, but you're right, and people thought
that was gonna be a hot young team and obviously
it didn't. It didn't. Hey, hey, let me ask you
(25:46):
about it. Sorry, no problem, let me let me ask
you about this. Uh, Kendrick Perkins, Kevin durand be, Oh
my goodness, what do you make of that. Whose side
are you on? I'm just thought, I'm honestly on the
of that happening more on Twitter because it was one
of the most entertaining things I thought yesterday. I mean,
(26:11):
that was so exciting. But like to watch to watch
these like big guys like get in there and like
have it out in front of people is kind of fun.
And I'm sure those guys are both okay, So you
think I don't know, I don't, but I don't know
if I'm the thing that hurts me and I agree
(26:31):
obviously is entertaining, gives us something to talk about as
great as a fan. But it does hurt me a
little that these guys were good friends. I'm not saying
they were best friends, but they were. They were good friends,
and it seems like that is in question now. I mean,
I'm sure it's gonna be a while before they talk
to each other, so that's a little bothersome, but hey,
(26:52):
they both went there and it is what it is.
Do you how do you feel? Do you agree with
Perkins when he's said that k D's moved to Golden
State was weak and he's not a real champion. No, No,
I mean I get that that's like a very common
take or whatever. Uh, I understand that, like there's a
(27:14):
sense and I mean, who am I to judge, like Katie,
but like there's a there's a sense in which like,
of course he chose to to join a situation that
was easier than the other people that have won championships,
but like, uh, no, I mean, I think he devil
was best for him, and it seemed like the OKC
situation understandably just wasn't the right chemistry for him, I think,
(27:38):
And glad go ahead, No, no, you go ahead. I'm
glad that I'm glad that he's like, but now let
me try Brooklyn. Let me, you know, let me go,
let me show that that's not all I'm about. He's
done winning champions and no he's not. And that Luca
(28:00):
point is so well taken because if it was just
about the easy way out, he wouldn't have gone to Brooklyn,
even though kayle We was going. So so I think
that's one thing. But I know it's a soft spot,
and we know that he's he's a pretty sensitive What
do you think about the Lakers? And and and and
uh I picked the Clippers to win the championship. Do
(28:20):
you like what the Lakers have? I know you're a
Clippers fan, but how much do you fear them? Oh?
I mean as a Clippers fan, I fear the Lakers definitely.
I mean I've been I was at both the opening
game where the Clippers hunted the Lakers and uh and
also the Christmas Day game, and those were two of
(28:41):
the best regular season games I've ever been to. So
you must be a season ticket holder. I'm a season
ticket holder on the Clippers, and then I found a
way into the Lakers. Nice. You're a real basketball guy
right there. I mean, I got it. This is what's
happening in La, right man. It's so exciting. I think
(29:02):
that there are two title contenders, not just in the
same city, but in the same building. That's crazy. And
any basketball final is in LA should be so happy
and excited about that, I think. But yeah, I mean,
I think the Lakers could beat the Clippers. I think
the Clippers should be favorite thus in a seven game series.
(29:22):
Right now, they're deeper and all that they've won two,
they've lost zero to that down rival. Well, what do
you guys think? We are joined by Luca Jones, who
plays Ryan on the Hulu TV show Shrill. I agree
with you. I mean, I've said before in the preseason
I think the Clippers should be the favorites. They're the
best team on paper. I picked the Lakers to overcome them.
(29:45):
But yeah, they're right now. They're nipped neck and neck.
I know the Lakers have a much better record, but
the Clippers in the Lakers are clearly the two best
teams in the West. Hey, Luca, let's switch the baseball
and the Dodgers. All right, I know you're happy they
went to a World Series a couple of years in
a row to Nationals. Brohy, don't they want to spend
any money? Yeah? This is where you right there, Chris,
(30:05):
because they don't get anybody like that. They haven't won
a World Series since nineteen eighty eight. Freedman, who's their
general manager team president, came from Tampa Bay where they
didn't have any money, and the Dodgers never get anybody.
How do you feel you frustrated as a Dodger fan.
I mean, I'm frustrated at like not winning. I'm also
(30:27):
frustrated as like I went to both those World Series,
especially it's twenty seventeen one. I'm frustrated that it was
stolen from X by Houston because of because of the cheating. Yeah, yeah,
I mean that seems to be going around in baseball.
It does seem to be going around. But like I mean,
I think, look, as long as they're keeping us winning
(30:49):
divisions and putting us in a situation situation to like
get to the World Series, you're not gonna get the
World Series every year. Even when you get there, you're
not gonna win. We should have won in twenty seven
team that was our title. But I think they're gonna
get us back. Now. Were you there? Were you there
when Washington, you know, won the five game series? Were
(31:09):
you at the fifth game when people at Dodgers Did
you walk out? When? When up? When? Who was it?
Hit the Grand Slam? I just forgot, uh when I
never I never walk out, But I don't remember who.
I think you Howard Kendrick. Howard Kendrick hit the Grand Slam.
I was wondering if you walked out? No, I say
(31:31):
through when they when they kept Clayton kersh I and
and I was with everybody else like we're all stunning,
going like why they have to keep him in? Like
I mean, he's our guy, but like to take him
out once to get this job done and use the
best pitch here for for for every every hitter and
get out of that game and get into the next series.
At that point felt like a big missed opportunity for us.
(31:54):
All right, Luca, we got very We got about thirty
seconds forty five seconds left. I want to ask you,
obviously you're an actor now you you got your PhD
in philosophy, but gave it up to pursue acting. I mean,
you gotta tell us about your journey. I mean that
that's a heck of a move. I came out of here.
I thought I was going to be an actor and
(32:16):
that it wasn't working out a long time ago, and
I just went back to school and then like I
went to USC for my PhD. And then uh, somewhere
in the middle of that, I started performing on the
side and I got really really lucky and started getting hired.
And so once I finished my PhD, I was like, well,
this is why I came out here back, so let's
(32:38):
go for it. That's great, man, very lucky. That's great.
I'm thinking about I've been thinking about it the last
month or so. Of getting my PhD at USC. So
I'm no, I am I'm no. I'm thinking about it,
and uh, what time. Yeah, I'm teaching there as an
agg junct now, you know, in the Annenburgh School. Very cool. Yeah,
(32:58):
So I'm thinking about it and I might have to
call you to think about just the PhD period and
whether or not whatever you want. I appreciate that, Luca.
Great stuff. And next time we're at a Laker or
a Clippers game, I guess we'll try to find you
where you are you down low? You see, I'm not low.
(33:19):
I'm not, but I'm out. Well you're talking about a see.
So whether or not he has a girl on the
side or something, I don't know what you said, quick
quick contacts. Luca rob is a one to be comedian,
want to be funny. Thank you, Thank you, Luca, Thank you.
You just made this. That was the best birthday president.
(33:41):
I was gonna say he got birthday. Thank you, Luca.
I was gonna say he's only got one problem, he's
not funny. I do you're gonna say that? All right?
All right, Luca, thanks a lot. You can check him out.
He plays Ryan on the Hulu TV show Shrill it's
all the rage right now. Thanks Luca, Thank you guys
very much.
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