April 8, 2020 • 26 mins
It's The Best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob get into heated debates about whether or not Tom Brady is being disingenuous when he says he doesn't care about his legacy, if Brady's is lying to himself when he says 'a lot' of teams were interested in him even though it's been widely reported that only 2 teams made him contract offers, and if Brady and the Bucs or Bill Belichick and the Patriots will have more success this upcoming season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well, let's get it going on this worship Wednesday. And
as I said, it's going to be a heavy Tom
Brady day because he went on Howard Stern today and
spoke for two hours. A good job of Stern getting
him more there for that long. Here he is talking
about his legacy. I never cared about legacy. I mean
I could give it about that's never. I never, once,
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when I was in high school, said man, I can't
wait for what my football legacy looks like. I mean,
that's a very It's just not me. That's not my personality.
So why would I choose a different place. It's because
it was just time. I don't know what to say
other than that, like I had done everything. I accomplished
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everything I could in two decades with an incredible organization,
incredible group of people, and that will never change. And
no one can ever take that away from me. No
one can ever take those experience or Super Bowl championships
away from us. Well said miss through Brady. I'm gonna
let Rob Parker have his you know, I know Rob
has spent the last three hours preparing some long negative
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rant about Tom Brady and legacy. I'm gonna let you
go first. But I'm just saying, bravo, go ahead. Typical,
you know, Tom Brady not being genuine. Nobody said that
you should be thinking about your legacy in high school
when I ordered in the high school. When you're in
high school, you're just hoping your skin doesn't break out
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for problem, your problem date. You're not thinking about it. Legacy.
I know that was that bad, right, all right, all right,
all right, but but you get my point, Chris, legacy.
You don't talk about legacy. You don't talk about legacy
your first couple of years, or even after your first
couple of Super Bowls. You got a long road to go,
but at some point to think that you don't think
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about your legacy and what it meant, what it means
to you, and and the look at yourself. I've always
said this. Tom Brady was supposed to be Derek Jeter.
Derek Jeter had an unbelievable career as the captain and
shortstop of the New York Yankees for twenty seasons. He
won five World Series, He had all kinds of signature moments.
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He only wore one uniform. He's synonymous with the Yankees.
That's how he wanted it. That's what Tom Brady was
supposed to be. He wasn't supposed to be a guy
who was suspended by the league for cheating. He wasn't
supposed to be a guy who's gonna go put on
some ugly Tampa Bay Bucks Jersey. He was supposed to
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be Derek Jeter and have the same kind of career,
and instead Tom Brady just didn't know when to stop,
just didn't know when money got in the way, an
ego got in the way. And to say that he
doesn't care about his legacy or he never thought about
it is just disingenuous and not real. Everybody who has
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succeeded in life thinks about their legacy, what they leave behind,
how people are going to view them. That's that's natural.
I don't think there's anybody who's had success in life
who doesn't stop and smell the roses one day later
in their career. And God, did I leave anything behind?
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Did I make people better? Did I make people feel
better about themselves? Did I achieve things that people are
gonna think back after I'm long and buried and gone
and go that Tom Brady was a hell of a
quarterback man. If I only had one touchdown to score
in the big game. I'd want him with the football.
That's what people do. And whether he thought about it
or not, I'm not buying it. Rob Parker, for the
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second straight day, stop it. Are you serious? First of it?
You keep bringing up Derek Jeter. Tom Brady is supposed
to be Derek Jeter. Guess what, With all due respect
to Derek Jeter, mister yang key all that he's better
than Derek Junior. Not he is. He is Derek Jeter
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in the goat conversation in baseball, But we don't have
a gold conversation because he wouldn't be in it. No,
not even want to conversation for the Yankees. His topics,
his twenty years and his five when he was with
the one team for twenty years, So what Michael Jordan
wasn't even that in that in that situation, but over
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twenty Bryant better than Lebron, better than Jordan that he
stayed with the same team for twenty years. No, he
was supposed to be Jeter had a perfect career. Tom
Brady has the legacy. He has the most important legacy,
and that is that the majority of people think he's
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the goat what better legacy than not? And then as
far as him thinking about it, I I gotta be honest, Rob,
I don't think he thought much about his legacy because
I think when you're in the moment, you can't afford
to be obsessed with your legacy, because if you are,
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then you won't be able to perform at the highest
level that I think when I think nobody when you're gifted.
I think when you're gifted to do something, you just
go out and do it. I've never in my career,
I never was writing game stories. Yeah, you want to
write the best story you can, but I'm not thinking,
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you know, I gotta be you know, I want people
to I may think I want them to think I'm
a great writer, but you're not thinking I'm not. At
least I gotta be the best game story writer there
ever was. Or I just don't think when you're in
the moment that you're thinking that way. I think the
closest you could get to that would be like when
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Lebron and KD left their original teams. They were so
good that they knew I've got to win championships. If
I don't win championships, my legacy will be negative or
damaged in some way, and so they went to other
teams they knew they could win championships with. But I
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don't think. I mean, first of all, Tom Brady wasn't
even good enough to be thinking about a legacy early
in his career. He was a six round draft. You're
not thinking about legacy. You just go out there, you
do what you do. Then you won three in your
first four years. Your legacy is set now. It was nine.
It was set. He was super bowls. It wasn't, it
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wasn't written in stone, but it was set that this
is a guy with three super Bowls. He had more
than Peyton manning his whole career in his first four years.
And if he was settled on, if he was so
focused on legacy, he wouldn't be playing now, because again
his legacy is in most people's eyes, the go why
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why would you keep playing? Why would you risk looking
bad in Tampa Bay if you were obsessed with legacy
or concerned about left But using the words you're using,
I never used. Nobody talked about being obsessed by Chris.
Don't tell me he never thought about his legacy. When
you do concerned down, he mean he would in the
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best quarterback ever brought up being in high school talking
about his legacy. That's not what anybody was asking. Howard
could have said, Dude, I'm talking about fifteen years in
when most guys are ready to retire, guys who are
in your team years, and he's still winning Super Bowl.
But I thought to himself, in the moment, one thing
that swarts Brady. They focused on staying in the moment.
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If you start getting out and thinking about what are
people thinking about me? Do people think I'm the greatest?
Do people think I'm better than Peyton Manny, you won't
be able to perform to your best stability And after
Moper Bowl wins, people were talking about the patriote defense,
Adam Venetari as a kicker and Tom Brady was the
game manager. Go look at the numbers the coast three
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super bowl he had one Super Bowls. Nobody was talking
about it to by No. I never said he was
viewed as the goat after three Super Bowls, but I'm
saying there at that point, I mean, how many quarterbacks
have won more than three Super Bowls or three? Terry Bradshaw,
Troy Eightman, Joe Montana. Is that it so regardless of
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what happened from that point on, he was in rare
air right then and there. And then he kept playing
because he loved the game. He kept winning, and then
he still loves the game, and that's why he's playing.
I think he's playing more for the love of the
game than he is for legacy. And I think the
proof is clearly in the pudding. And I don't think
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people success. Some successful people, yeah, I'm sure think about
their legacy. I don't. I'm not my legacy I wanted
for my family. Am I leaving them resources? Where? Am
I raising them the right way? Am I helping them
become great? You know, future leaders and future great parents
and fathers and wives and you know thinks mothers and wives.
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That's what I'm thinking about. So I don't think every
successful person is overly is concerned about nobody thinking about
what he said overly. The other thing, too, is uh,
I did did did anybody hear the entire interview? Rob G?
Do you know if they asked them about being suspended
by the NFL, because obviously I read this stuff. I
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didn't hear the two hours. Yeah I don't think that. Yeah, Okay,
I'm no surprise that that didn't come up, because that's
what I would want to hear about. Be sure to
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then Rob Parker weekdays at seven pm Eastern four pm
Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We
got more from this to use the words of Rob
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Parker hard hitting interview that Tom Brady had with Howard Stern.
Can't help it, Chris, what's the other word we would
use for it? Uh? When when the softball? But softball? Um? Uh?
What he called marshmallow or floss? I mean bluff? Yeah,
yeah it was. I mean, I mean you still take
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it if you'll take it. But this is why, And
this is like, people go, how come Howard Stern got
Tom Brady because Tom Brady knows him and Howard tom
lives in New York, what has spends time or has
an apartment in New York probably rub elbows with Howard
right at these big parties or whatever that they used
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to have and and they feel comfortable with each other.
I get it. Howard Stern's a big star. I'm gonna
admit this to you right now, Chris. When when satellite
radio first started. It was you had to pick you.
Remember that XM or series is you had to prit
remember that XM had Major League Baseball. Serious had Howard Stern.
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The station I was working at in Detroit was ninety
seven one FM Talk. Howard Stern was our morning show
and we did a show from seven to eleven PM.
I picked Serious because of Howard Stern. I'm I was
a huge baseball Yes I did. That's why I'm telling
the story. That's how big, that's how big about you?
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And I am patterns yourself as the sports version of
Howard Stern. But I didn't listen to you just say
stuff for shock value now at all shock But the
bottom line is he got handled with kid gloves in
that interview from the stuff that I read he did.
He did, he did all right, but We're not gonna
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handle him with kid gloves. I'm just gonna tell the truth.
Rob's gonna try to take his head off. But anyway,
one of the other things that Tom Brady talked about,
we mentioned in the first hour his legacy or is
he saying he wasn't that concerned about his legacy. Well,
he also talked about how all these different teams had
interest in him. Here he is. I really believe I
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can help any organization, and that's why I signed up
and continue to playing. If I didn't think I could
do that, then I wouldn't keep I wouldn't have continued
to play. But I believe I can have a great
impact on the Raiders. Came at your heart, didn't they.
You know, there were probably a lot of different teams
that were interested. I would say there, you know there
was there was something. Well, I want to respect their privacy.
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You think he's trying to save face. Come on, Tom
gee wiz Awe Strucks. Nobody wanted you. You're the worst king.
Everybody knows that you had two options. Save that, save
that take for next football season. Yeah, what's that? You
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got it? Okay saying he's the word, Okay, thank you.
Uh but but nobody wanted Tom Brady. The Patriots didn't
even make him an offer, according to reports, and the
two offers that they got. And we're talking about veteran
NFL reporters. And remember the woman on the ESPN Chris
I forget her name, You remember Diana Russini was like that. Yeah,
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she was the one Chris who said there wasn't interest
out there for Tom Brady. She was rough spot on
because no one wanted a forty three year old quarterback
for a two year contract, even the Colts, and I
know they had a relationship with Philip Rivers and they
had coached them and all that other stuff, but they
took up terrible Philip Rivers had a terrible year rather
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than going after Tom Brady. And it just tells you
about where he is. The Chargers wanted them. They got
a stadium they're trying to fill in Inglewood, California, you know,
opening up this year. They got problems getting uh crowds
would have given him a nice balls, giving him a
name and all that. None of that happened. So he
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owned the only they wanted them and Tampa Bay, who
had made the playoffs, he said, other teams, But here
we don't know that because there was reporting of all kinds.
Jeff Darlington, who was the first guy to kind of
go out on a limb, or at least you know,
the first guy recently before every you know, a couple
of weeks before everything went down to go out and say,
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I'd be shocked if Tom Brady returns to New England
he said, Also, that's sever you know that at that
time it was viewed a four or five teams were
after Brady. He said, it's more than that he did. So,
I mean we can go back. And I don't believe it.
I'm talking about I don't believe Dan and Russini. I
mean report he's talking about offering telling me what you
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what he said, and you're acting like it's a definite
fact that only two team won. Teams there was all
types of know that offer money anybody craft. Robert Kraft
said the Patriots wanted him back. So who are you
already you gonna believe I don't believe any of that.
That saving face. You don't believe it because you don't
want to believe. I don't believe it. Get there's a
difference between having a conversation and doing your due diligence
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as an organization. Why I'm making offer, I'm making a
formal all my dude diligence I do I do Why
if he's available, because I'm doing my dude different. I
think he's to have a conversation. You have to do
my due diligence. You you kick the tires. The coach
did the coach we know of I'm telling you, coach,
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talk to him other teams. How many teams did their
due diligence? Or Cam new you you need to do
I'm diligence. I'm talking about the gods one are people
doing the due diligence? Or Cam Newton? You do your
due diligence and that doesn't people doing it? Or Cam
Newton and off they're not even talking to Cam Newton.
You remember want he's eleven years younger than Brady. You
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remember when you went into the Day News to talk
but they didn't offer your contract, they were just doing
their due diligence. And then New York Times. Yeah, I
got an offer from your your former paper, Newsday, and
chose the New York Times. It was a dark bidding war,
you know it was, man, you wind up taking the
extra dollar right for actually took a little less to
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go to the New York Times. It was the New
York Times. You know. See, I lived by I've been
That's what I said that And I'm not being a hypocrite.
I said sometimes you can take less if you're happier
somewhere else. But anyway, it's not about me. Tom Brady
rob to say he's washed. You're gonna regret those words.
You will regret them, and I will eat chicken wings
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at your expense, and I will eat them in your face.
I will at the bones, the structure, everything right in
your grill, because you will regret. You will rule the
day that you said he was the wash king. Bruce.
Do you think Bruce Arians is an idiot? I mean, seriously,
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Bruce Arians is a very good football coach. Made the
playoffs twice in seven years. Stop it, I'm sorry, I'm
not good enough. What super Bowls did he win? Bruce
Arians my foot? Everybody so because he ain't win the
Super Bowls? Good, he's the greatest, good coach. I'm justs
a coordinator. We'll see those quarterbacks and and here's the okay,
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you you don't you don't like in you win though
you don't like hearsay. How about this you're always talking
about Tom Brady doesn't have any more arm strength. Tom
Brady can't throw the football. You need to recognize he
didn't really have anybody to throw the football to downfield.
And even so last year in terms of quality of
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long passages twenty yards or more, those are called the
downfield passes twenty yards or more. He he was eleven
for twenty seven. That's forty one percent. Guess what that
was tied for first in the in f oh Chris
accuracy onst You could you could talk all you don't
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want to those a little narrative, those of the folding.
I go with the node test, I go with the test. Yeah,
that's what I little. You remember his last past there's
remember Scout in there. You remember his last pass? Do
you remember his last pass as a Patriot? That he
pick six? Do you remember that wor pick six? That's
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how he walked off as a Patriot with that awful throw.
He had so many bad throws this year, especially against
good talent. How he ate up for he ate up
all those bad teams. Look at the that were the
worst ein no team in the history of the NFL,
and that's twelve and four was a smoke that were
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terrible park Tom Brady had what the plays ever in
the NFL? Go look at the number that's that that's
I mean, it might be his worst year, but he's
the goat, So who cares? That's still going to the
year he is going to He is not the only one.
I'm the only one, any any analysts, any player. Jamis
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Winston just to day said he's the goat. I'm replaced
by the goat. That's kudos to me, dude, that's calling
him to go every trying to say face. Jamis Winstons
lost his gig. You don't have to call trying to
save face to be like, why did they throw me out? Oh?
Because they got this old dude. He don't want to
disrespect Tom Brady deep down in the neighborhood, saying what
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the forty three year old? What did his forty three
year old bum how to take my job and not
make the playoffs? Watch how many guys have bought Aaron
Rodgers goat sneakers? Huh, goat cleats, goat skin spin a
whole week. I've never nobody would buy somebody so something
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Ponis all week. It's all to making sure he's got
the perfect cleats for you. Brady made of goat skin.
Who else, Rob Park There's some security guard in Cleveland
that has those cleats because Tom Brady threw him in
the garbage after Odell that gave it nothing about Brady.
O b J. Another opponent said, you're the goat. I'm
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bowing down. I'm telling you, Rob Parker, I believe Tom
Brady and he's right. He went up there and he said, look,
I'm not trying to throw anybody it mess up anybody
else's gig because there were teams out there that had
interest in him that half starting quarterbacks already. Tom Brady
isn't good on him. You don't have to go out
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there and and mess up Derek Carr's thing in Vegas.
I'm sure Gruden had some interest. All right, what do
you guys think? Eight seven? Having ninety nine on Fox?
I may have destroyed Rib's narratives so much that he
don't bring it back. Please. He might not bring it back.
Patting yourself on the back. I hate to tell you,
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but the narrative on on the Twitter, uh the Twitter?
Please you people's I got. But the differences is I
have real Twitter followers. I don't have any now. I
don't even play around like that. I got real followers.
Ain't no question about that. Fox Sports Radio has the
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I woant to ask you this, Rob Parker, which one
Brady or Belichick will experience success, you know, immediate success.
Do you think Belichick, like Belichick will make the playoffs
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without Brady before Brady makes it without him or whatever Belichick?
I have Brady not doing anything his final two years.
In two years, the Patriots will be back in the playoffs.
Tom Brady will not. He'll be Michael Jordan, William Mays
all wrapped into one. It'll be bad. And then people
will use the excuse that what do you expect. He's
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forty three's forty four. They didn't protect him. All those
receivers who were good when they weren't playing for anything,
all of a sudden turned small and turned to Google
because now they were playing games that matter. I already
know all of the things. All the running game isn't
good enough. All his protection isn't good enough. Oh, Bruce,
arians he only made the playoffs twice in seven years.
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Why do you think he was a genius. I'm telling
you there'll be everything except Tom Brady is the wash king.
That's what we'll hear is that. Didn't you say that
back in twenty twelve. I think that was the same.
In fact, Alex, did you just replay that or was
that live? Was okay? I couldn't tell. I was just wondering,
but pretty close, okay. Job And first of all, well,
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first of all, I was Tom Brady falls on his
face in Tampa Bay, then forty three years old will
not be an excuse. It will be an explanation. There's
a difference. There's a difference. You're right, You are right
about this, Rob. Tom Brady has nothing to lose because
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any same football person, if he goes to Tampa Bay
and it is bad, will just say he's forty three.
And you know what, that's legitimate. It's legitimate because we've
never seen anybody be any good at forty three. But
I don't think that's gonna be the case. I think
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Tom Brady is gonna go to Tampa Bay and with
Chris Godwin and Mike Evans and an offensive line that
was ranked seventh in the NFL last year above New
England is going to protect him enough because it's proba problems.
Last year, he had two issues. He struggled under pressure
because he was under so so much pressure with that
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beat up offensive line, and in the red zone, because
he didn't have a tight end. Now he's got two
good tight ends in Tampa. He's got two good receivers
on the outside. He's got an offensive line. Oh believe it.
Tom Brady's gonna do domage, not damage, dommage. I and
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when he does it, how to knew you would by
language bilingual. When he does dommage, I'm gonna do dommage
to those lemon pepper chicken wings. You're gonna owe me.
You gotta have the bone, you gotta right. That's what
Donnie just said too before he wound up coming through
with five. That's old news. That's old news. I'll tell
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you what m Brella check. I see all these scouts
all of a sudden, scouts love Jared Stidham. Are you serious?
I got scouts? Were was a story today, all these
scouts on Bleacher Report. Check this out about Jared Stidham.
He's a lot closer to playoff quarterback than another guy
who falls on his face replacing a legend. Here's another one.
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He had first round talent that was mucked up by
a system that didn't fit him. Stop it, I get it.
You respect Bill Belichick to no end, and that's fine.
But don't act like all of a sudden, Jared Stidma
is all that. What this is is scouts saying Belichick
is a great coach, and we believe if he likes Stidham,
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we like Stidham, and we believe he's gonna be successful.
That's all this is. But I mean you mean Billick
they will be successful before the Patriots? You mean Bill
belichickoff who had already aired Mark Garoppolo as a replacement,
and look what he turned out to be for the
forty nine is that's why people have respect. They should
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have respect for Kobe Set got paid. Also, who's the
who's the other guy that the Patriots had that Matt
Castle went? Matt Castle did not one year? One eleven games?
Did they make would play? He won eleven games? Did
they make the play I'm just asking that he won
eleven games. Would you rather win nine games make the playoffs?
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Is simple question? Yes? No, No, I'm not I'm not
answering that question. You know. My point is that Belichick
has been able to do that with quarterback. So that's
why Stan He's Look, Belichick is a great coach. I
just think Brady's going to have success in Tampa, and
I think New England is going to miss him more
than he misses Bill
Well, let's get it going on this worship Wednesday. And
as I said, it's going to be a heavy Tom
Brady day because he went on Howard Stern today and
spoke for two hours. A good job of Stern getting
him more there for that long. Here he is talking
about his legacy. I never cared about legacy. I mean
I could give it about that's never. I never, once,
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when I was in high school, said man, I can't
wait for what my football legacy looks like. I mean,
that's a very It's just not me. That's not my personality.
So why would I choose a different place. It's because
it was just time. I don't know what to say
other than that, like I had done everything. I accomplished
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everything I could in two decades with an incredible organization,
incredible group of people, and that will never change. And
no one can ever take that away from me. No
one can ever take those experience or Super Bowl championships
away from us. Well said miss through Brady. I'm gonna
let Rob Parker have his you know, I know Rob
has spent the last three hours preparing some long negative
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rant about Tom Brady and legacy. I'm gonna let you
go first. But I'm just saying, bravo, go ahead. Typical,
you know, Tom Brady not being genuine. Nobody said that
you should be thinking about your legacy in high school
when I ordered in the high school. When you're in
high school, you're just hoping your skin doesn't break out
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for problem, your problem date. You're not thinking about it. Legacy.
I know that was that bad, right, all right, all right,
all right, but but you get my point, Chris, legacy.
You don't talk about legacy. You don't talk about legacy
your first couple of years, or even after your first
couple of Super Bowls. You got a long road to go,
but at some point to think that you don't think
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about your legacy and what it meant, what it means
to you, and and the look at yourself. I've always
said this. Tom Brady was supposed to be Derek Jeter.
Derek Jeter had an unbelievable career as the captain and
shortstop of the New York Yankees for twenty seasons. He
won five World Series, He had all kinds of signature moments.
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He only wore one uniform. He's synonymous with the Yankees.
That's how he wanted it. That's what Tom Brady was
supposed to be. He wasn't supposed to be a guy
who was suspended by the league for cheating. He wasn't
supposed to be a guy who's gonna go put on
some ugly Tampa Bay Bucks Jersey. He was supposed to
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be Derek Jeter and have the same kind of career,
and instead Tom Brady just didn't know when to stop,
just didn't know when money got in the way, an
ego got in the way. And to say that he
doesn't care about his legacy or he never thought about
it is just disingenuous and not real. Everybody who has
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succeeded in life thinks about their legacy, what they leave behind,
how people are going to view them. That's that's natural.
I don't think there's anybody who's had success in life
who doesn't stop and smell the roses one day later
in their career. And God, did I leave anything behind?
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Did I make people better? Did I make people feel
better about themselves? Did I achieve things that people are
gonna think back after I'm long and buried and gone
and go that Tom Brady was a hell of a
quarterback man. If I only had one touchdown to score
in the big game. I'd want him with the football.
That's what people do. And whether he thought about it
or not, I'm not buying it. Rob Parker, for the
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second straight day, stop it. Are you serious? First of it?
You keep bringing up Derek Jeter. Tom Brady is supposed
to be Derek Jeter. Guess what, With all due respect
to Derek Jeter, mister yang key all that he's better
than Derek Junior. Not he is. He is Derek Jeter
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in the goat conversation in baseball, But we don't have
a gold conversation because he wouldn't be in it. No,
not even want to conversation for the Yankees. His topics,
his twenty years and his five when he was with
the one team for twenty years, So what Michael Jordan
wasn't even that in that in that situation, but over
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twenty Bryant better than Lebron, better than Jordan that he
stayed with the same team for twenty years. No, he
was supposed to be Jeter had a perfect career. Tom
Brady has the legacy. He has the most important legacy,
and that is that the majority of people think he's
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the goat what better legacy than not? And then as
far as him thinking about it, I I gotta be honest, Rob,
I don't think he thought much about his legacy because
I think when you're in the moment, you can't afford
to be obsessed with your legacy, because if you are,
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then you won't be able to perform at the highest
level that I think when I think nobody when you're gifted.
I think when you're gifted to do something, you just
go out and do it. I've never in my career,
I never was writing game stories. Yeah, you want to
write the best story you can, but I'm not thinking,
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you know, I gotta be you know, I want people
to I may think I want them to think I'm
a great writer, but you're not thinking I'm not. At
least I gotta be the best game story writer there
ever was. Or I just don't think when you're in
the moment that you're thinking that way. I think the
closest you could get to that would be like when
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Lebron and KD left their original teams. They were so
good that they knew I've got to win championships. If
I don't win championships, my legacy will be negative or
damaged in some way, and so they went to other
teams they knew they could win championships with. But I
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don't think. I mean, first of all, Tom Brady wasn't
even good enough to be thinking about a legacy early
in his career. He was a six round draft. You're
not thinking about legacy. You just go out there, you
do what you do. Then you won three in your
first four years. Your legacy is set now. It was nine.
It was set. He was super bowls. It wasn't, it
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wasn't written in stone, but it was set that this
is a guy with three super Bowls. He had more
than Peyton manning his whole career in his first four years.
And if he was settled on, if he was so
focused on legacy, he wouldn't be playing now, because again
his legacy is in most people's eyes, the go why
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why would you keep playing? Why would you risk looking
bad in Tampa Bay if you were obsessed with legacy
or concerned about left But using the words you're using,
I never used. Nobody talked about being obsessed by Chris.
Don't tell me he never thought about his legacy. When
you do concerned down, he mean he would in the
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best quarterback ever brought up being in high school talking
about his legacy. That's not what anybody was asking. Howard
could have said, Dude, I'm talking about fifteen years in
when most guys are ready to retire, guys who are
in your team years, and he's still winning Super Bowl.
But I thought to himself, in the moment, one thing
that swarts Brady. They focused on staying in the moment.
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If you start getting out and thinking about what are
people thinking about me? Do people think I'm the greatest?
Do people think I'm better than Peyton Manny, you won't
be able to perform to your best stability And after
Moper Bowl wins, people were talking about the patriote defense,
Adam Venetari as a kicker and Tom Brady was the
game manager. Go look at the numbers the coast three
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super bowl he had one Super Bowls. Nobody was talking
about it to by No. I never said he was
viewed as the goat after three Super Bowls, but I'm
saying there at that point, I mean, how many quarterbacks
have won more than three Super Bowls or three? Terry Bradshaw,
Troy Eightman, Joe Montana. Is that it so regardless of
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what happened from that point on, he was in rare
air right then and there. And then he kept playing
because he loved the game. He kept winning, and then
he still loves the game, and that's why he's playing.
I think he's playing more for the love of the
game than he is for legacy. And I think the
proof is clearly in the pudding. And I don't think
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people success. Some successful people, yeah, I'm sure think about
their legacy. I don't. I'm not my legacy I wanted
for my family. Am I leaving them resources? Where? Am
I raising them the right way? Am I helping them
become great? You know, future leaders and future great parents
and fathers and wives and you know thinks mothers and wives.
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That's what I'm thinking about. So I don't think every
successful person is overly is concerned about nobody thinking about
what he said overly. The other thing, too, is uh,
I did did did anybody hear the entire interview? Rob G?
Do you know if they asked them about being suspended
by the NFL, because obviously I read this stuff. I
(09:39):
didn't hear the two hours. Yeah I don't think that. Yeah, Okay,
I'm no surprise that that didn't come up, because that's
what I would want to hear about. Be sure to
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got more from this to use the words of Rob
(10:03):
Parker hard hitting interview that Tom Brady had with Howard Stern.
Can't help it, Chris, what's the other word we would
use for it? Uh? When when the softball? But softball? Um? Uh?
What he called marshmallow or floss? I mean bluff? Yeah,
yeah it was. I mean, I mean you still take
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it if you'll take it. But this is why, And
this is like, people go, how come Howard Stern got
Tom Brady because Tom Brady knows him and Howard tom
lives in New York, what has spends time or has
an apartment in New York probably rub elbows with Howard
right at these big parties or whatever that they used
(10:44):
to have and and they feel comfortable with each other.
I get it. Howard Stern's a big star. I'm gonna
admit this to you right now, Chris. When when satellite
radio first started. It was you had to pick you.
Remember that XM or series is you had to prit
remember that XM had Major League Baseball. Serious had Howard Stern.
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The station I was working at in Detroit was ninety
seven one FM Talk. Howard Stern was our morning show
and we did a show from seven to eleven PM.
I picked Serious because of Howard Stern. I'm I was
a huge baseball Yes I did. That's why I'm telling
the story. That's how big, that's how big about you?
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And I am patterns yourself as the sports version of
Howard Stern. But I didn't listen to you just say
stuff for shock value now at all shock But the
bottom line is he got handled with kid gloves in
that interview from the stuff that I read he did.
He did, he did all right, but We're not gonna
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handle him with kid gloves. I'm just gonna tell the truth.
Rob's gonna try to take his head off. But anyway,
one of the other things that Tom Brady talked about,
we mentioned in the first hour his legacy or is
he saying he wasn't that concerned about his legacy. Well,
he also talked about how all these different teams had
interest in him. Here he is. I really believe I
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can help any organization, and that's why I signed up
and continue to playing. If I didn't think I could
do that, then I wouldn't keep I wouldn't have continued
to play. But I believe I can have a great
impact on the Raiders. Came at your heart, didn't they.
You know, there were probably a lot of different teams
that were interested. I would say there, you know there
was there was something. Well, I want to respect their privacy.
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You think he's trying to save face. Come on, Tom
gee wiz Awe Strucks. Nobody wanted you. You're the worst king.
Everybody knows that you had two options. Save that, save
that take for next football season. Yeah, what's that? You
(12:57):
got it? Okay saying he's the word, Okay, thank you.
Uh but but nobody wanted Tom Brady. The Patriots didn't
even make him an offer, according to reports, and the
two offers that they got. And we're talking about veteran
NFL reporters. And remember the woman on the ESPN Chris
I forget her name, You remember Diana Russini was like that. Yeah,
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she was the one Chris who said there wasn't interest
out there for Tom Brady. She was rough spot on
because no one wanted a forty three year old quarterback
for a two year contract, even the Colts, and I
know they had a relationship with Philip Rivers and they
had coached them and all that other stuff, but they
took up terrible Philip Rivers had a terrible year rather
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than going after Tom Brady. And it just tells you
about where he is. The Chargers wanted them. They got
a stadium they're trying to fill in Inglewood, California, you know,
opening up this year. They got problems getting uh crowds
would have given him a nice balls, giving him a
name and all that. None of that happened. So he
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owned the only they wanted them and Tampa Bay, who
had made the playoffs, he said, other teams, But here
we don't know that because there was reporting of all kinds.
Jeff Darlington, who was the first guy to kind of
go out on a limb, or at least you know,
the first guy recently before every you know, a couple
of weeks before everything went down to go out and say,
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I'd be shocked if Tom Brady returns to New England
he said, Also, that's sever you know that at that
time it was viewed a four or five teams were
after Brady. He said, it's more than that he did. So,
I mean we can go back. And I don't believe it.
I'm talking about I don't believe Dan and Russini. I
mean report he's talking about offering telling me what you
(14:53):
what he said, and you're acting like it's a definite
fact that only two team won. Teams there was all
types of know that offer money anybody craft. Robert Kraft
said the Patriots wanted him back. So who are you
already you gonna believe I don't believe any of that.
That saving face. You don't believe it because you don't
want to believe. I don't believe it. Get there's a
difference between having a conversation and doing your due diligence
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as an organization. Why I'm making offer, I'm making a
formal all my dude diligence I do I do Why
if he's available, because I'm doing my dude different. I
think he's to have a conversation. You have to do
my due diligence. You you kick the tires. The coach
did the coach we know of I'm telling you, coach,
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talk to him other teams. How many teams did their
due diligence? Or Cam new you you need to do
I'm diligence. I'm talking about the gods one are people
doing the due diligence? Or Cam Newton? You do your
due diligence and that doesn't people doing it? Or Cam
Newton and off they're not even talking to Cam Newton.
You remember want he's eleven years younger than Brady. You
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remember when you went into the Day News to talk
but they didn't offer your contract, they were just doing
their due diligence. And then New York Times. Yeah, I
got an offer from your your former paper, Newsday, and
chose the New York Times. It was a dark bidding war,
you know it was, man, you wind up taking the
extra dollar right for actually took a little less to
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go to the New York Times. It was the New
York Times. You know. See, I lived by I've been
That's what I said that And I'm not being a hypocrite.
I said sometimes you can take less if you're happier
somewhere else. But anyway, it's not about me. Tom Brady
rob to say he's washed. You're gonna regret those words.
You will regret them, and I will eat chicken wings
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at your expense, and I will eat them in your face.
I will at the bones, the structure, everything right in
your grill, because you will regret. You will rule the
day that you said he was the wash king. Bruce.
Do you think Bruce Arians is an idiot? I mean, seriously,
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Bruce Arians is a very good football coach. Made the
playoffs twice in seven years. Stop it, I'm sorry, I'm
not good enough. What super Bowls did he win? Bruce
Arians my foot? Everybody so because he ain't win the
Super Bowls? Good, he's the greatest, good coach. I'm justs
a coordinator. We'll see those quarterbacks and and here's the okay,
(17:29):
you you don't you don't like in you win though
you don't like hearsay. How about this you're always talking
about Tom Brady doesn't have any more arm strength. Tom
Brady can't throw the football. You need to recognize he
didn't really have anybody to throw the football to downfield.
And even so last year in terms of quality of
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long passages twenty yards or more, those are called the
downfield passes twenty yards or more. He he was eleven
for twenty seven. That's forty one percent. Guess what that
was tied for first in the in f oh Chris
accuracy onst You could you could talk all you don't
(18:14):
want to those a little narrative, those of the folding.
I go with the node test, I go with the test. Yeah,
that's what I little. You remember his last past there's
remember Scout in there. You remember his last pass? Do
you remember his last pass as a Patriot? That he
pick six? Do you remember that wor pick six? That's
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how he walked off as a Patriot with that awful throw.
He had so many bad throws this year, especially against
good talent. How he ate up for he ate up
all those bad teams. Look at the that were the
worst ein no team in the history of the NFL,
and that's twelve and four was a smoke that were
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terrible park Tom Brady had what the plays ever in
the NFL? Go look at the number that's that that's
I mean, it might be his worst year, but he's
the goat, So who cares? That's still going to the
year he is going to He is not the only one.
I'm the only one, any any analysts, any player. Jamis
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Winston just to day said he's the goat. I'm replaced
by the goat. That's kudos to me, dude, that's calling
him to go every trying to say face. Jamis Winstons
lost his gig. You don't have to call trying to
save face to be like, why did they throw me out? Oh?
Because they got this old dude. He don't want to
disrespect Tom Brady deep down in the neighborhood, saying what
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the forty three year old? What did his forty three
year old bum how to take my job and not
make the playoffs? Watch how many guys have bought Aaron
Rodgers goat sneakers? Huh, goat cleats, goat skin spin a
whole week. I've never nobody would buy somebody so something
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Ponis all week. It's all to making sure he's got
the perfect cleats for you. Brady made of goat skin.
Who else, Rob Park There's some security guard in Cleveland
that has those cleats because Tom Brady threw him in
the garbage after Odell that gave it nothing about Brady.
O b J. Another opponent said, you're the goat. I'm
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bowing down. I'm telling you, Rob Parker, I believe Tom
Brady and he's right. He went up there and he said, look,
I'm not trying to throw anybody it mess up anybody
else's gig because there were teams out there that had
interest in him that half starting quarterbacks already. Tom Brady
isn't good on him. You don't have to go out
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there and and mess up Derek Carr's thing in Vegas.
I'm sure Gruden had some interest. All right, what do
you guys think? Eight seven? Having ninety nine on Fox?
I may have destroyed Rib's narratives so much that he
don't bring it back. Please. He might not bring it back.
Patting yourself on the back. I hate to tell you,
(21:11):
but the narrative on on the Twitter, uh the Twitter?
Please you people's I got. But the differences is I
have real Twitter followers. I don't have any now. I
don't even play around like that. I got real followers.
Ain't no question about that. Fox Sports Radio has the
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I woant to ask you this, Rob Parker, which one
Brady or Belichick will experience success, you know, immediate success.
Do you think Belichick, like Belichick will make the playoffs
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without Brady before Brady makes it without him or whatever Belichick?
I have Brady not doing anything his final two years.
In two years, the Patriots will be back in the playoffs.
Tom Brady will not. He'll be Michael Jordan, William Mays
all wrapped into one. It'll be bad. And then people
will use the excuse that what do you expect. He's
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forty three's forty four. They didn't protect him. All those
receivers who were good when they weren't playing for anything,
all of a sudden turned small and turned to Google
because now they were playing games that matter. I already
know all of the things. All the running game isn't
good enough. All his protection isn't good enough. Oh, Bruce,
arians he only made the playoffs twice in seven years.
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Why do you think he was a genius. I'm telling
you there'll be everything except Tom Brady is the wash king.
That's what we'll hear is that. Didn't you say that
back in twenty twelve. I think that was the same.
In fact, Alex, did you just replay that or was
that live? Was okay? I couldn't tell. I was just wondering,
but pretty close, okay. Job And first of all, well,
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first of all, I was Tom Brady falls on his
face in Tampa Bay, then forty three years old will
not be an excuse. It will be an explanation. There's
a difference. There's a difference. You're right, You are right
about this, Rob. Tom Brady has nothing to lose because
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any same football person, if he goes to Tampa Bay
and it is bad, will just say he's forty three.
And you know what, that's legitimate. It's legitimate because we've
never seen anybody be any good at forty three. But
I don't think that's gonna be the case. I think
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Tom Brady is gonna go to Tampa Bay and with
Chris Godwin and Mike Evans and an offensive line that
was ranked seventh in the NFL last year above New
England is going to protect him enough because it's proba problems.
Last year, he had two issues. He struggled under pressure
because he was under so so much pressure with that
(24:06):
beat up offensive line, and in the red zone, because
he didn't have a tight end. Now he's got two
good tight ends in Tampa. He's got two good receivers
on the outside. He's got an offensive line. Oh believe it.
Tom Brady's gonna do domage, not damage, dommage. I and
(24:27):
when he does it, how to knew you would by
language bilingual. When he does dommage, I'm gonna do dommage
to those lemon pepper chicken wings. You're gonna owe me.
You gotta have the bone, you gotta right. That's what
Donnie just said too before he wound up coming through
with five. That's old news. That's old news. I'll tell
(24:51):
you what m Brella check. I see all these scouts
all of a sudden, scouts love Jared Stidham. Are you serious?
I got scouts? Were was a story today, all these
scouts on Bleacher Report. Check this out about Jared Stidham.
He's a lot closer to playoff quarterback than another guy
who falls on his face replacing a legend. Here's another one.
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He had first round talent that was mucked up by
a system that didn't fit him. Stop it, I get it.
You respect Bill Belichick to no end, and that's fine.
But don't act like all of a sudden, Jared Stidma
is all that. What this is is scouts saying Belichick
is a great coach, and we believe if he likes Stidham,
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we like Stidham, and we believe he's gonna be successful.
That's all this is. But I mean you mean Billick
they will be successful before the Patriots? You mean Bill
belichickoff who had already aired Mark Garoppolo as a replacement,
and look what he turned out to be for the
forty nine is that's why people have respect. They should
(25:58):
have respect for Kobe Set got paid. Also, who's the
who's the other guy that the Patriots had that Matt
Castle went? Matt Castle did not one year? One eleven games?
Did they make would play? He won eleven games? Did
they make the play I'm just asking that he won
eleven games. Would you rather win nine games make the playoffs?
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Is simple question? Yes? No, No, I'm not I'm not
answering that question. You know. My point is that Belichick
has been able to do that with quarterback. So that's
why Stan He's Look, Belichick is a great coach. I
just think Brady's going to have success in Tampa, and
I think New England is going to miss him more
than he misses Bill
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