July 16, 2020 • 25 mins
It's The Best Of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain why they don't think the Washington Post bombshell article describing alleged sexual misconduct by former Redskins employees will be enough to force Daniel Snyder to sell the team, and wonder aloud if Zion Williamson's new 'leg cramps' and general inability to stay healthy should give New Orleans Pelicans fans cause for concern. Plus, former Washington Redskins defensive back Fred Smoot stops by to discuss his own experiences within the organization and explain why he thinks Snyder's low-key personality works against him whenever his team comes under attack by members of the media.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. It's not gonna
be a fun topic. It's just something we have to
deal with. This sobering. It's sad. And here's the headline.
More than a dozen women alleged sexual harassment and verbal
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abuse by former team employees at Redskins Park. So basically
they they I mean, and you read the stories in
the Washington Post. Everybody's picked it up at this point.
But the women describe an atmosphere robbed in the Washington
Redskins facility and organization that was unbearable for women. In fact,
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the women women they lead with Emily Applegate is her name,
and she started working for the Washington football team in
twenty fourteen. They say that she got it from her
that she would go and cry every day with the
female co worker in the bathroom during their lunch break
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about the harassment and just the atmosphere that they had
to go through, and it's just it was just really,
really a terrible situation there in Washington, and three of
the guys, rob G correct me if I'm wrong. The
three guys who really are highlighted is the ones who
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made these types of comments and all that have either
been fired or left on their own in the last
within the last week when word came out that this
was this story was gonna come out, and so one
of them was the long time voice of the Radskins,
Rob G's got a few quotes, that's right, Christ and
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involving a few of the former Redskins employees. One of them,
former director of Pro Personnel, Alex Santos, told one female
reporter as he pinched her, he said, quote, you got
an ass like a wagon. He told another female reporter
that he quote had a great ass for a little
white girl. Richard Man saying that at a workplace, Richard Man,
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the second assistant director of Pro Personnel, setting a text
message to a female employee that he and his colleague
were debating whether or not her breasts were augmented or not,
and said he was going to give her an inappropriate
hug and to quote, don't worry, that'll be a stapler
in my pocket and quote. So that's just a handful
of some of these stories that were discussed in this
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watching up the stapler going, I'm gonna leave you going,
I'm just like, what do you read the story? Do you?
I didn't read the story? Have to sell the team? No,
because they they when this stuff has come to light,
people were asked to leave or fired or whatever the
term is. Chris, he's not directly linked to it. And
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let's just be honest. Mark Cuban had a similar situation
with the NBA. He wasn't forced to give up his team, right,
I don't you know? There was very because there was
an environment. It wasn't cut right, But it wasn't him.
It wasn't him, but it happed wanted the guys. It
was a reporter for their website. You remember who had
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been involved, yes, with domestic violence and if you remember Chris,
he paid his bail to get out of jail, and
he was involved with something with a girlfriend or a
fiance or a wife or something like like he was
actually hard like harboring him, allowing him to have the
bad behavior. But in this case, I don't see how
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Daniel Snyder. If you put all the cards on the
table and you clean up the environment, you get rid
of the people, Chris, who have done wrong right, and
you settle with the women and pay them and do
and judge and make it right and make sure that
this doesn't happen in your organization and take responsibility for it.
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As much as Daniel Snyder you could dislike a lot
of things about him, Chris, I can't see where this
would rise to the level of saying he should give
up his team. I totally agree. I tot you hit
it on the head, clean it up, get rid of
the people who did this, take care of the women,
and he should be fine. I mean really, I couldn't
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agree more. And again I did think from looking at
a lot of the tweets today that that was going
to be the case. It was gonna be so bad
that he would have to sell. But if he wants
to find but I don't think this rises to the
level where he has to because, like you said, he
really wasn't involved. Be sure to catch live editions of
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the odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays
at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports
Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We know that Zion Williamson,
the young hotshot star for the New Orleans Pelicans, left
the bubble to deal with a family issue, and we
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take I take that at you know, face value. I'm
not gonna look anything into that. What I think is significant, however,
is that it's been reported by the athletic that he
was suffering leg cramps this week and had to miss
parts of practice before leaving a team yesterday. Rob. I look,
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I'm not a doctor and all that, but this is
a nineteen year old kid who has been off for
four months, who just got back basically from injury that
kept him out for the basically the whole season, and
I think that this is not a good sign. We
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know his body is incredible, but it's a lot of torque.
He puts on a six six, two hundred and eighty
five pound frame because of his leaping ability. He's been
limited to nineteen games this year. Rob, and then at
Duke he played one season and got injured, and I
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just I'm sorry, like again, I'm not gonna read too
much into it, but I do think this is a
rare flag for me. Um. Yeah, we gotta be very
careful because we don't know. You know, the team said
that it was a family emergency, Chris, and we No,
I'm not say saying he's gone because of the I'm
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just saying the fact that he had to sit out
some practices because of the leg cramps. That but of
the legs because there's something wrong with him, or he
didn't he didn't during the break of three or four months,
didn't be a professional athlete to make sure he was
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in shape. Do you know what I mean? Before getting back?
Is that what it is, Chris? Or is it that
there's something deeper because of the injuries he has had
early on and to be so young and we and
we've seen what's happened, right, We saw that Duke. We
saw it when he first got to the Pelicans. And
now if this is again you and then wasn't there
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some other situation in high school too? And he hasn't
played like consistently for a year in how long because
remember he got he played it, do play thirty three games,
but did have the injury. The foot injury or was
it a need? He had the injury, the leg injury.
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Then he comes back for summer league, has an injury,
right then he misses all but nineteen games in the
regular season. Part of it that they didn't want to
rush him back right at the time. I got that.
But now you come back and you got leg crafts Now,
let's let's give let's let's do our due diligence. Here's
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what the story says. In the Athletic Williamson was spotted
being attended to by medical personnel at a recent practice,
but he is quote unquote fine and the cramping was
quote unquote not an issue. A source said. The cramping
is not the reason Williamson left. The source added, but
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with something he dealt with. Now, I'm not I'm not
tying the two together. No, that's what I'm mad. You know,
Kim make that Oh he's Kim, He's hurt. No, I'm
not saying that at all. I believe that he had
an urgent family matter. I'm just saying, is it concerning
that a nineteen year old kid who has been injured
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every few months comes back and within the first few
practices he's got to get he's he's got leg cramps
and has to sit out some of practice. Yeah, I
don't know an injury and leg cramps cramps can happen, Chris, Uh,
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Is that an injury? It's not. Remember remember when Lebron
cramp during the finals. No, right, I'm just that's what
I'm saying. That's not an injury to me? Is it?
Or is it is? In an ELM? I don't think
it's an injury. Ailment could be could be bad too,
if I know. But but I'm just asking something. I'm
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looking at it as injury. When I'm getting at is
it always seems to be something all right? Now that's
injury injury wise, I'm not again because I can't stay
on the court. Yeah, he can't. That's the bottom line.
He can't. And I'm just throwing it out there because
looking at it, he, like you said it, he can't
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seem to stay on the court. Is this something that
you kind of gotta worry about? That's kind of That's
what I'm getting at. Because you go ahead. I think
that's fair. Especially let's see why this plays out somehow someway,
because now he's gotta he's gotta stay uh uh quarantined
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right for four days at least when he talks about no,
I think it's gonna be longer than that. He's not
thought it because leaving kids, if you're not if you
don't touch here's what it's says. I'm just getting the
Pelicans added that Williamson is expected to rejoin the team
at some point in the restarted season, but didn't provide
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a timetable. So hopefully you hope, let's let's say this first,
hopefully it's nothing really bad with his family. I just
think about too negative of a situation or not a
negative situation at all. How crazy would that be that
we know that the NBA kind of made sure they
had the Pelicans, they're hoping that they could get into playoffs,
and then Zion doesn't play like like like that would
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be like, well you you think see, I don't think
it was funny business like that. Oh I do ya.
I used to call the WWF NBA or whatever. Yeah,
but there was always stuff going on. I don't think
they could have just brought six team back and started
the playoffs. I could have played. You don't have to
play gamestry dish for injury. You don't have to play games.
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You could have played scrimmages like they're doing in the
squad game. You have played that, Yes, you could have.
I got no. I don't think this had anything to
do with I. I mean, come on, it's not like
they can't survive with outs. They went the whole I see. Basically,
I just think they want them. If they could get
them into the playoffs and get them involved, it would
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be good for the league. That's all. I'm not saying
that Hoka's focus and they're gonna make the other teams
you did get them in I'm talking about, but they
want to be able to get them w NBA or
whatever you called ww the ww E ever say that
about MLB. Come on, give me give me a Hocus
focus trick. When it's the Houston Astros. How about that.
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MLB had never do with that? Then Hoka's focus. They're
just banging on trash cans. I mean, how about stepping
into the twenty first century Astros? I mean, my goodness,
But but all I'm saying, rob and and let me
keep reading this per protocols set by the NBA and
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agree to by the Players Union governing life in the
Disney Bubble any player who leaves campus is subject to
a ten day quarantine once he returns, So it looks
like he's gonna have to be quarantine for ten days.
And again, hopefully this has there's nothing negative whatsoever with
his family situation. But this is Rob you said it.
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This is what I'm just getting at. He can't seem
to stay on the court and the land cramps, whatever
it is, he can't seem to stay on the court,
and that concerns me. You've been on the four months.
You should be able to bounce back. If anybody's the
older people, older players, you have to restart, right, A
young guy he just turned twenty this month. Yeah, yeah,
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so he's a young guy. Uh, he should be able
to bounce back. It shouldn't be that that tough, uh
to work through things. But he's had his issue. So
I think if if you're the Pelicans, is something you
gotta watch and take very cautiously, Chris, because the last
thing you want to do is you spend a first
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overall pick on a guy and then you don't take
care of him and he winds up hurting himself even more,
and then you're out. Anthony Davis and the guy who
was supposed to replace him. Yeah, and I just think, right, look,
we've never seen a guy like this, a guy with
this build, build with that type of torque. Remember with
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Derek a Rose, who's half the size of Zion. But
you remember the torque he used to put on his
body because he was so explosive, and obviously he gave
way at some point. Remember Larry John. Now Larry wasn't
as explosive as Zion, but he was basically a six
six sixty seven post player who was phenomenal early on.
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Remember he was like, yes, it really was. It may
have been on his road ways a Hall of Fame career.
But the bat gave out, which is different obviously, but
his bat gave out. Now, Barkley, this might be the uh,
this might be the example that Zion has to follow.
Remember when Charles Barkley entered the league, he was overweight.
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His nickname was the round Mound of rebound. He said himself,
I believe he said he had to lose forty five
pounds early in his career. And you know, we think
of him as big Chuck who was fat and not
it you look at him and when he played, when
he was you know in his prime he wasn't fat, no, no, no,
he was right, but he was solid. He wasn't fat
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at all. It wasn't fat, and he was fat in
college and so he dropped all that weight and obviously
he really never had major injury concerns. So that might
be what Zion has to do. Rob, I don't know.
I'm not a doctor, I'm not a trainer, and maybe
this is nothing, but it would be. It's come on, Rob,
I'd have to be crazy. If I'm working for the Pelicans,
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I've got to be a little concerned, right, My guy
just can't stay on the court. No, and he's young,
and he's had the other issues. So I agree they
would have to take a look at it and hope
that this is not going to be reoccurring and he's
never going to be one of these guys you can
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He's a former cornerback for the Washington NFL team, France Smooth, Fred,
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Welcome to the Ox up frid Hey, what's up, Fellas Man,
big fam of you both. Man, thanks for having me on. Man,
thank you brother. We appreciate that. And let's get right
to it. Man, I'm sure you know if the reports
about Danniel Snyder's and the Red Skins, even though Snyder
wasn't named in this, what are you surprised that that
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is the culture that is there? Um and was there
when you were there or did you know kind of
a lot of this was happening. Well, I can't. I
can't say it was here when I was when I
was there because at the end of the day, you
coaches controlled that environment and I played for Joe Gibson
And I'm sorry that Joseph not having that. You know,
a man of dignity and and everything has to be
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the same way. You never heard any of that stuff
out when Shanahan was here. So at the end of
the day when as I read through it and seeing everything,
and first of all, no woman, no matter what jobs
she works, you have to ever go through anything like that.
But I also have to look at the big picture.
Of this and say who was running the ship at
the time when undergrewen. This is where most of this
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stuff is cut, stemming from from under very loose rand ship.
And I have to look at that because I was
here when Dan was literally on the field every day.
He was he was at the park every day, he
was in his office every day. And as I came
back to really get it to the media and go
to go over there to the fields, I noticed he
had separated himself and he was he was actually listening
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to the fans, because you know, at first he was
two hands on and he was like, you need to
step back, And now he stepped back in his ship, sak.
And he still get blame for so like I said before,
I can't say it was a coach and the every
coach I played for, because I could say this joking
water shot and him all those coaches. Never before was
anything like that happened. I know a lot of fans.
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We've had a couple of people calling to us from
DC and they basically told me Chris that we're crazy
and that the NFL should make Daniel Schneider sell the
team because of this revelation. And and here's the other thing,
we get it, he's not a popular guy, and and
of course Washington has had hasn't had success underneath him,
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You remember, I mean it was unbelievable to me. At
one time there was probably a five or ten your
waiting list for tickets, and then he took over the team.
They were covering up seats because they couldn't sell sell
out games in DC, which was unheard of. You know that.
Um do you do you think that with him not
even being named as somebody who actually took part in
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this stuff, do you think he'll be forced to sell
by the league? You know what, it's been such a
build up guy. For the last eight days since the
Washington Post release were fen stop bums. We're friend to
drop bumbshell. So it's been speculates out the speculation, and
me myself, I've been a part of things. I like,
let me see, let me wait, let me see the facts,
And yes sometimes I do see send my mutiny because
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Dan is not the most popular guy. And for me
to know him personally. The one thing that I think
works against Dan that people don't know is he shy.
Is you notice he never likes to get in front
of the camera. He never likes to talk. There's never
been who he is, and I think to a fault
that hurts him with the fan base because they can't
identify with him. They can't they don't know his emotion,
they don't know who he is. So yes, of course
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great stead with the fact that that the team hasn't
won in years, it makes still want to run him
out of town. But then I also I have to
look at the second level stuff. I like to investiga.
If I'm gonna do some investigation, I like to work
a little bit. Now. You know the Washington Paid Post
is owned by Bayos, right, Bayos is a guy that
wants in on the NFL. He wants in on the team.
You know, I have to really look at it and and say,
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if Big NAIs was trying to run up each other
mix up that happened, how would they do it. They
would do it through the companies they own. So you know,
when I look at it and I look at the picture,
like I said before, no woman should ever have to
go through that, And I think it's all stems from
whatever head coach was there at that time, because the
head coach sets the tempo in that whole beauty even
with the Yeah, but these are some guys from the
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front office, Larry Michael, I guess you are you surprised
that he was, you know, your Voice of the Time
broadcast ten years and an older guy. You surprised that
he was caught up in this? Uh Man? You know,
I'm anytime you see any by the names that you
actually know these guys, you are you're surprised, you know,
because you're like, you know, I don't think you know
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they would do that stuff. And I want to hear
the whole story and see what really went on. Nothing
surprises me anymore. Two twin has stopped me from being surprised.
From me anything, anything can happen at any time. So
when these stories come out, the first thing I want
to do is get my facts. These names were brought
up in the only commonality with these names that they've
been ten plus years. That's pretty much with every name
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that's been there. Now when these when these things happen,
I don't really know. But like I said, nothing surprises
me anymore. Hey, Fred, what about And you say, nothing
surprises you. The idea that when advertisers came to the
Washington franchise and said that name is changing or were
taking out, pulling our money out of the organization. And
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then about two weeks what people have been trying to
do for decades, the name of the team, which is
by most definitions of racial slur, it's going to be gone.
Did you think of when you play there? Did you
ever think about that it was a racial slur? And
how shocked are you that finally it is going to
get changed. I've told this story on a couple of interviews.
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I've seen it my rookie year, preseason. I never forget it.
We pulled up on the team bus, we pulled up
to the Kansas City Stadium. I'm sitting there, me in
Champ Bailey talking and I see a small group of
boycotters and now I was like, what are they boycotting?
What happened? He was like, man, sometime they boycott because
of the name. Everybody doesn't like the name. And just
in back of my head I kind of cataloged it
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and saying, you know, one day we're gonna have to
We're gonna have to take this on hit first. Now
this day coming this quick. You gotta realize. The discussion
started up again three weeks ago and we are already
to the point that it's about to change the name.
So me myself, if it's financially motivated, if it motivated
because in your heart that what you wanted, I don't
really care as long as the change happened. I've talked
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to a couple of Native Americans, just being a town
hall on the news with the Native American, just hearing
how he talked about it, how it made them feel.
I never knew that when I was playing. I was
so in gulped and just being in the NFL and
living a dream that I wasn't even thinking on that
level at the time. But now just listening to them, Yes,
if it defends one offense, defends a group of them,
the name should be changing. I'm fine. So I'm not
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wanting the people that cry when problems happened. I'm from Mississippi.
I I've been through it all and I've seen it all.
I want to do people. I like to fix the problem,
and that's why I started my Red Wolfs movement so
they can have we can have a name, we can
be proud of it move forward with. Now, what is
that name? The Red Wolves? It's the number one surgeon name.
In the last five days, it went from not even
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on the list to the top of the list. I
think everybody seemed to like it because it does a
couple of things. First of all, the red Wolf is
indigenous to this area. It's about to go extinct. It's
literally in this area. I think less than fifty of
them left. It also has a tie to the Native
of American with with the with the wolf being spirit animal.
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It also has ties to a neighbor brigade that was
called the Red Wolf Squadron, so they on your military connection.
It also lets you keep the HTTR hell to the
Red Wolds. It allows you to keep your same burglary
and go. It allows you to basically transform from a
native too and wherevers. I think it's fun. I think
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the fan base of love it. And like I told them,
just imagine man us Can stopping back down an eighty
yeard pass to make Loren in eight styles and just
howling like wolves. I'm like, you make a nice arguing
the Red Walls. Yeah, and you know what if you don't,
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If if you can't get it to the Red Walls,
we could always because today's a TV theme. So on
Thursday in the Shore maybe they could change your name
to the Red Foxes. No, man, Foxes, it's not intimidating.
A wolf is intimidating. And I can to tell you
Rob thinks he's a comedian, so I know that. I
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know that. Thank you so much, Fred, ain't grace. I
enjoyed Rob. We gotta get him back to get you,
no doubt about you. I'm went the Red Wolves after
that speech. Listen to me. When you pick the name, Chris,
you can't just pick a name. You have to pick
something that the fans can actually evolve in it, that
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it could be a part of their game, their experience.
Imagine that we picked the Red Wolves, and we build
a new stadium and we actually make it a pick
friendly stadium so people can bring their dogs when we
store a highly those dogs are gonna store at high Now.
I don't know, dog friend, I think you went a
little too far. We love the red Wolves. Thank you, Fred.
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All right, friend, we'll get you on again. Though, Man,
thank I think so. All right, piece,
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s R. You're listening to the Best of The Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. It's not gonna
be a fun topic. It's just something we have to
deal with. This sobering. It's sad. And here's the headline.
More than a dozen women alleged sexual harassment and verbal
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abuse by former team employees at Redskins Park. So basically
they they I mean, and you read the stories in
the Washington Post. Everybody's picked it up at this point.
But the women describe an atmosphere robbed in the Washington
Redskins facility and organization that was unbearable for women. In fact,
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the women women they lead with Emily Applegate is her name,
and she started working for the Washington football team in
twenty fourteen. They say that she got it from her
that she would go and cry every day with the
female co worker in the bathroom during their lunch break
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about the harassment and just the atmosphere that they had
to go through, and it's just it was just really,
really a terrible situation there in Washington, and three of
the guys, rob G correct me if I'm wrong. The
three guys who really are highlighted is the ones who
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made these types of comments and all that have either
been fired or left on their own in the last
within the last week when word came out that this
was this story was gonna come out, and so one
of them was the long time voice of the Radskins,
Rob G's got a few quotes, that's right, Christ and
(02:17):
involving a few of the former Redskins employees. One of them,
former director of Pro Personnel, Alex Santos, told one female
reporter as he pinched her, he said, quote, you got
an ass like a wagon. He told another female reporter
that he quote had a great ass for a little
white girl. Richard Man saying that at a workplace, Richard Man,
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the second assistant director of Pro Personnel, setting a text
message to a female employee that he and his colleague
were debating whether or not her breasts were augmented or not,
and said he was going to give her an inappropriate
hug and to quote, don't worry, that'll be a stapler
in my pocket and quote. So that's just a handful
of some of these stories that were discussed in this
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watching up the stapler going, I'm gonna leave you going,
I'm just like, what do you read the story? Do you?
I didn't read the story? Have to sell the team? No,
because they they when this stuff has come to light,
people were asked to leave or fired or whatever the
term is. Chris, he's not directly linked to it. And
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let's just be honest. Mark Cuban had a similar situation
with the NBA. He wasn't forced to give up his team, right,
I don't you know? There was very because there was
an environment. It wasn't cut right, But it wasn't him.
It wasn't him, but it happed wanted the guys. It
was a reporter for their website. You remember who had
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been involved, yes, with domestic violence and if you remember Chris,
he paid his bail to get out of jail, and
he was involved with something with a girlfriend or a
fiance or a wife or something like like he was
actually hard like harboring him, allowing him to have the
bad behavior. But in this case, I don't see how
(04:14):
Daniel Snyder. If you put all the cards on the
table and you clean up the environment, you get rid
of the people, Chris, who have done wrong right, and
you settle with the women and pay them and do
and judge and make it right and make sure that
this doesn't happen in your organization and take responsibility for it.
(04:35):
As much as Daniel Snyder you could dislike a lot
of things about him, Chris, I can't see where this
would rise to the level of saying he should give
up his team. I totally agree. I tot you hit
it on the head, clean it up, get rid of
the people who did this, take care of the women,
and he should be fine. I mean really, I couldn't
(04:58):
agree more. And again I did think from looking at
a lot of the tweets today that that was going
to be the case. It was gonna be so bad
that he would have to sell. But if he wants
to find but I don't think this rises to the
level where he has to because, like you said, he
really wasn't involved. Be sure to catch live editions of
(05:18):
the odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays
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Radio and the iHeartRadio app. We know that Zion Williamson,
the young hotshot star for the New Orleans Pelicans, left
the bubble to deal with a family issue, and we
(05:39):
take I take that at you know, face value. I'm
not gonna look anything into that. What I think is significant, however,
is that it's been reported by the athletic that he
was suffering leg cramps this week and had to miss
parts of practice before leaving a team yesterday. Rob. I look,
(06:05):
I'm not a doctor and all that, but this is
a nineteen year old kid who has been off for
four months, who just got back basically from injury that
kept him out for the basically the whole season, and
I think that this is not a good sign. We
(06:29):
know his body is incredible, but it's a lot of torque.
He puts on a six six, two hundred and eighty
five pound frame because of his leaping ability. He's been
limited to nineteen games this year. Rob, and then at
Duke he played one season and got injured, and I
(06:51):
just I'm sorry, like again, I'm not gonna read too
much into it, but I do think this is a
rare flag for me. Um. Yeah, we gotta be very
careful because we don't know. You know, the team said
that it was a family emergency, Chris, and we No,
I'm not say saying he's gone because of the I'm
(07:14):
just saying the fact that he had to sit out
some practices because of the leg cramps. That but of
the legs because there's something wrong with him, or he
didn't he didn't during the break of three or four months,
didn't be a professional athlete to make sure he was
(07:35):
in shape. Do you know what I mean? Before getting back?
Is that what it is, Chris? Or is it that
there's something deeper because of the injuries he has had
early on and to be so young and we and
we've seen what's happened, right, We saw that Duke. We
saw it when he first got to the Pelicans. And
now if this is again you and then wasn't there
(07:56):
some other situation in high school too? And he hasn't
played like consistently for a year in how long because
remember he got he played it, do play thirty three games,
but did have the injury. The foot injury or was
it a need? He had the injury, the leg injury.
(08:19):
Then he comes back for summer league, has an injury,
right then he misses all but nineteen games in the
regular season. Part of it that they didn't want to
rush him back right at the time. I got that.
But now you come back and you got leg crafts Now,
let's let's give let's let's do our due diligence. Here's
(08:43):
what the story says. In the Athletic Williamson was spotted
being attended to by medical personnel at a recent practice,
but he is quote unquote fine and the cramping was
quote unquote not an issue. A source said. The cramping
is not the reason Williamson left. The source added, but
(09:04):
with something he dealt with. Now, I'm not I'm not
tying the two together. No, that's what I'm mad. You know,
Kim make that Oh he's Kim, He's hurt. No, I'm
not saying that at all. I believe that he had
an urgent family matter. I'm just saying, is it concerning
that a nineteen year old kid who has been injured
(09:24):
every few months comes back and within the first few
practices he's got to get he's he's got leg cramps
and has to sit out some of practice. Yeah, I
don't know an injury and leg cramps cramps can happen, Chris, Uh,
(09:45):
Is that an injury? It's not. Remember remember when Lebron
cramp during the finals. No, right, I'm just that's what
I'm saying. That's not an injury to me? Is it?
Or is it is? In an ELM? I don't think
it's an injury. Ailment could be could be bad too,
if I know. But but I'm just asking something. I'm
(10:05):
looking at it as injury. When I'm getting at is
it always seems to be something all right? Now that's
injury injury wise, I'm not again because I can't stay
on the court. Yeah, he can't. That's the bottom line.
He can't. And I'm just throwing it out there because
looking at it, he, like you said it, he can't
(10:28):
seem to stay on the court. Is this something that
you kind of gotta worry about? That's kind of That's
what I'm getting at. Because you go ahead. I think
that's fair. Especially let's see why this plays out somehow someway,
because now he's gotta he's gotta stay uh uh quarantined
(10:51):
right for four days at least when he talks about no,
I think it's gonna be longer than that. He's not
thought it because leaving kids, if you're not if you
don't touch here's what it's says. I'm just getting the
Pelicans added that Williamson is expected to rejoin the team
at some point in the restarted season, but didn't provide
(11:12):
a timetable. So hopefully you hope, let's let's say this first,
hopefully it's nothing really bad with his family. I just
think about too negative of a situation or not a
negative situation at all. How crazy would that be that
we know that the NBA kind of made sure they
had the Pelicans, they're hoping that they could get into playoffs,
and then Zion doesn't play like like like that would
(11:35):
be like, well you you think see, I don't think
it was funny business like that. Oh I do ya.
I used to call the WWF NBA or whatever. Yeah,
but there was always stuff going on. I don't think
they could have just brought six team back and started
the playoffs. I could have played. You don't have to
play gamestry dish for injury. You don't have to play games.
(11:56):
You could have played scrimmages like they're doing in the
squad game. You have played that, Yes, you could have.
I got no. I don't think this had anything to
do with I. I mean, come on, it's not like
they can't survive with outs. They went the whole I see. Basically,
I just think they want them. If they could get
them into the playoffs and get them involved, it would
(12:16):
be good for the league. That's all. I'm not saying
that Hoka's focus and they're gonna make the other teams
you did get them in I'm talking about, but they
want to be able to get them w NBA or
whatever you called ww the ww E ever say that
about MLB. Come on, give me give me a Hocus
focus trick. When it's the Houston Astros. How about that.
(12:38):
MLB had never do with that? Then Hoka's focus. They're
just banging on trash cans. I mean, how about stepping
into the twenty first century Astros? I mean, my goodness,
But but all I'm saying, rob and and let me
keep reading this per protocols set by the NBA and
(12:59):
agree to by the Players Union governing life in the
Disney Bubble any player who leaves campus is subject to
a ten day quarantine once he returns, So it looks
like he's gonna have to be quarantine for ten days.
And again, hopefully this has there's nothing negative whatsoever with
his family situation. But this is Rob you said it.
(13:23):
This is what I'm just getting at. He can't seem
to stay on the court and the land cramps, whatever
it is, he can't seem to stay on the court,
and that concerns me. You've been on the four months.
You should be able to bounce back. If anybody's the
older people, older players, you have to restart, right, A
young guy he just turned twenty this month. Yeah, yeah,
(13:48):
so he's a young guy. Uh, he should be able
to bounce back. It shouldn't be that that tough, uh
to work through things. But he's had his issue. So
I think if if you're the Pelicans, is something you
gotta watch and take very cautiously, Chris, because the last
thing you want to do is you spend a first
(14:10):
overall pick on a guy and then you don't take
care of him and he winds up hurting himself even more,
and then you're out. Anthony Davis and the guy who
was supposed to replace him. Yeah, and I just think, right, look,
we've never seen a guy like this, a guy with
this build, build with that type of torque. Remember with
(14:31):
Derek a Rose, who's half the size of Zion. But
you remember the torque he used to put on his
body because he was so explosive, and obviously he gave
way at some point. Remember Larry John. Now Larry wasn't
as explosive as Zion, but he was basically a six
six sixty seven post player who was phenomenal early on.
(14:54):
Remember he was like, yes, it really was. It may
have been on his road ways a Hall of Fame career.
But the bat gave out, which is different obviously, but
his bat gave out. Now, Barkley, this might be the uh,
this might be the example that Zion has to follow.
Remember when Charles Barkley entered the league, he was overweight.
(15:17):
His nickname was the round Mound of rebound. He said himself,
I believe he said he had to lose forty five
pounds early in his career. And you know, we think
of him as big Chuck who was fat and not
it you look at him and when he played, when
he was you know in his prime he wasn't fat, no, no, no,
he was right, but he was solid. He wasn't fat
(15:38):
at all. It wasn't fat, and he was fat in
college and so he dropped all that weight and obviously
he really never had major injury concerns. So that might
be what Zion has to do. Rob, I don't know.
I'm not a doctor, I'm not a trainer, and maybe
this is nothing, but it would be. It's come on, Rob,
I'd have to be crazy. If I'm working for the Pelicans,
(16:01):
I've got to be a little concerned, right, My guy
just can't stay on the court. No, and he's young,
and he's had the other issues. So I agree they
would have to take a look at it and hope
that this is not going to be reoccurring and he's
never going to be one of these guys you can
(16:22):
count on, because that's really what it is. We talk
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He's a former cornerback for the Washington NFL team, France Smooth, Fred,
(16:47):
Welcome to the Ox up frid Hey, what's up, Fellas Man,
big fam of you both. Man, thanks for having me on. Man,
thank you brother. We appreciate that. And let's get right
to it. Man, I'm sure you know if the reports
about Danniel Snyder's and the Red Skins, even though Snyder
wasn't named in this, what are you surprised that that
(17:07):
is the culture that is there? Um and was there
when you were there or did you know kind of
a lot of this was happening. Well, I can't. I
can't say it was here when I was when I
was there because at the end of the day, you
coaches controlled that environment and I played for Joe Gibson
And I'm sorry that Joseph not having that. You know,
a man of dignity and and everything has to be
(17:27):
the same way. You never heard any of that stuff
out when Shanahan was here. So at the end of
the day when as I read through it and seeing everything,
and first of all, no woman, no matter what jobs
she works, you have to ever go through anything like that.
But I also have to look at the big picture.
Of this and say who was running the ship at
the time when undergrewen. This is where most of this
(17:50):
stuff is cut, stemming from from under very loose rand ship.
And I have to look at that because I was
here when Dan was literally on the field every day.
He was he was at the park every day, he
was in his office every day. And as I came
back to really get it to the media and go
to go over there to the fields, I noticed he
had separated himself and he was he was actually listening
(18:12):
to the fans, because you know, at first he was
two hands on and he was like, you need to
step back, And now he stepped back in his ship, sak.
And he still get blame for so like I said before,
I can't say it was a coach and the every
coach I played for, because I could say this joking
water shot and him all those coaches. Never before was
anything like that happened. I know a lot of fans.
(18:32):
We've had a couple of people calling to us from
DC and they basically told me Chris that we're crazy
and that the NFL should make Daniel Schneider sell the
team because of this revelation. And and here's the other thing,
we get it, he's not a popular guy, and and
of course Washington has had hasn't had success underneath him,
(18:55):
You remember, I mean it was unbelievable to me. At
one time there was probably a five or ten your
waiting list for tickets, and then he took over the team.
They were covering up seats because they couldn't sell sell
out games in DC, which was unheard of. You know that.
Um do you do you think that with him not
even being named as somebody who actually took part in
(19:16):
this stuff, do you think he'll be forced to sell
by the league? You know what, it's been such a
build up guy. For the last eight days since the
Washington Post release were fen stop bums. We're friend to
drop bumbshell. So it's been speculates out the speculation, and
me myself, I've been a part of things. I like,
let me see, let me wait, let me see the facts,
And yes sometimes I do see send my mutiny because
(19:40):
Dan is not the most popular guy. And for me
to know him personally. The one thing that I think
works against Dan that people don't know is he shy.
Is you notice he never likes to get in front
of the camera. He never likes to talk. There's never
been who he is, and I think to a fault
that hurts him with the fan base because they can't
identify with him. They can't they don't know his emotion,
they don't know who he is. So yes, of course
(20:01):
great stead with the fact that that the team hasn't
won in years, it makes still want to run him
out of town. But then I also I have to
look at the second level stuff. I like to investiga.
If I'm gonna do some investigation, I like to work
a little bit. Now. You know the Washington Paid Post
is owned by Bayos, right, Bayos is a guy that
wants in on the NFL. He wants in on the team.
You know, I have to really look at it and and say,
(20:23):
if Big NAIs was trying to run up each other
mix up that happened, how would they do it. They
would do it through the companies they own. So you know,
when I look at it and I look at the picture,
like I said before, no woman should ever have to
go through that, And I think it's all stems from
whatever head coach was there at that time, because the
head coach sets the tempo in that whole beauty even
with the Yeah, but these are some guys from the
(20:45):
front office, Larry Michael, I guess you are you surprised
that he was, you know, your Voice of the Time
broadcast ten years and an older guy. You surprised that
he was caught up in this? Uh Man? You know,
I'm anytime you see any by the names that you
actually know these guys, you are you're surprised, you know,
because you're like, you know, I don't think you know
(21:06):
they would do that stuff. And I want to hear
the whole story and see what really went on. Nothing
surprises me anymore. Two twin has stopped me from being surprised.
From me anything, anything can happen at any time. So
when these stories come out, the first thing I want
to do is get my facts. These names were brought
up in the only commonality with these names that they've
been ten plus years. That's pretty much with every name
(21:29):
that's been there. Now when these when these things happen,
I don't really know. But like I said, nothing surprises
me anymore. Hey, Fred, what about And you say, nothing
surprises you. The idea that when advertisers came to the
Washington franchise and said that name is changing or were
taking out, pulling our money out of the organization. And
(21:50):
then about two weeks what people have been trying to
do for decades, the name of the team, which is
by most definitions of racial slur, it's going to be gone.
Did you think of when you play there? Did you
ever think about that it was a racial slur? And
how shocked are you that finally it is going to
get changed. I've told this story on a couple of interviews.
(22:13):
I've seen it my rookie year, preseason. I never forget it.
We pulled up on the team bus, we pulled up
to the Kansas City Stadium. I'm sitting there, me in
Champ Bailey talking and I see a small group of
boycotters and now I was like, what are they boycotting?
What happened? He was like, man, sometime they boycott because
of the name. Everybody doesn't like the name. And just
in back of my head I kind of cataloged it
(22:34):
and saying, you know, one day we're gonna have to
We're gonna have to take this on hit first. Now
this day coming this quick. You gotta realize. The discussion
started up again three weeks ago and we are already
to the point that it's about to change the name.
So me myself, if it's financially motivated, if it motivated
because in your heart that what you wanted, I don't
really care as long as the change happened. I've talked
(22:56):
to a couple of Native Americans, just being a town
hall on the news with the Native American, just hearing
how he talked about it, how it made them feel.
I never knew that when I was playing. I was
so in gulped and just being in the NFL and
living a dream that I wasn't even thinking on that
level at the time. But now just listening to them, Yes,
if it defends one offense, defends a group of them,
the name should be changing. I'm fine. So I'm not
(23:18):
wanting the people that cry when problems happened. I'm from Mississippi.
I I've been through it all and I've seen it all.
I want to do people. I like to fix the problem,
and that's why I started my Red Wolfs movement so
they can have we can have a name, we can
be proud of it move forward with. Now, what is
that name? The Red Wolves? It's the number one surgeon name.
In the last five days, it went from not even
(23:40):
on the list to the top of the list. I
think everybody seemed to like it because it does a
couple of things. First of all, the red Wolf is
indigenous to this area. It's about to go extinct. It's
literally in this area. I think less than fifty of
them left. It also has a tie to the Native
of American with with the with the wolf being spirit animal.
(24:02):
It also has ties to a neighbor brigade that was
called the Red Wolf Squadron, so they on your military connection.
It also lets you keep the HTTR hell to the
Red Wolds. It allows you to keep your same burglary
and go. It allows you to basically transform from a
native too and wherevers. I think it's fun. I think
(24:23):
the fan base of love it. And like I told them,
just imagine man us Can stopping back down an eighty
yeard pass to make Loren in eight styles and just
howling like wolves. I'm like, you make a nice arguing
the Red Walls. Yeah, and you know what if you don't,
(24:44):
If if you can't get it to the Red Walls,
we could always because today's a TV theme. So on
Thursday in the Shore maybe they could change your name
to the Red Foxes. No, man, Foxes, it's not intimidating.
A wolf is intimidating. And I can to tell you
Rob thinks he's a comedian, so I know that. I
(25:04):
know that. Thank you so much, Fred, ain't grace. I
enjoyed Rob. We gotta get him back to get you,
no doubt about you. I'm went the Red Wolves after
that speech. Listen to me. When you pick the name, Chris,
you can't just pick a name. You have to pick
something that the fans can actually evolve in it, that
(25:25):
it could be a part of their game, their experience.
Imagine that we picked the Red Wolves, and we build
a new stadium and we actually make it a pick
friendly stadium so people can bring their dogs when we
store a highly those dogs are gonna store at high Now.
I don't know, dog friend, I think you went a
little too far. We love the red Wolves. Thank you, Fred.
(25:49):
All right, friend, we'll get you on again. Though, Man,
thank I think so. All right, piece,
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