August 28, 2020 • 28 mins
It's The Best Of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! Chris and Rob explain why they think LeBron James could've handled himself better after reports surfaced that he was upset about the MIlwaukee Bucks decision to stage a boycott without telling other teams first, tell us why they'd like to see guys like Russell Wilson and Saquon Barkley follow through on their comments about boycotting NFL games in the name of social justice, and explain why they think guys like Brian Urlacher are the root of our problem in American society today.
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. All right, this
guy was a superstar, so much so that he's in
the Hall of Fame. We told you about his book
a few weeks ago. We're telling you about it again,
The Spencer Haywood Rule. It was written by our friends
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and great journalists themselves, Mark Spears and Gary Washburn. We
welcome Spencer Haywood to the Spencer Man. How are you?
How are you doing? How are you doing? NABJ WHOA Yeah, man, Spencer,
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you know that it's great to have. It is great
to have, wonderful, so wonderful, y'all. Love my god, that
history you were just teachings. Yeah, well we'll tell us.
Look you, I mean we mentioned it earlier in the show.
Kurt Flood, you opened up free agency for all as
(01:28):
professional athletes. Yeah, and he doesn't get the respect or
the renown that he should. And you opened up what's
now the hardship rule. But the ability for players to
go from college, you know, after one, two, three years,
rather than having to wait for and obviously at times
different times, and I think it'll come back. Players could
(01:49):
go straight from high school. Tell us about that fight,
what moved you to do it and how tough it
was for you? Oh it was, it was tough. But
let me just say, it's a pleasure to be on
with you guys. Really. I respect y'all professional big time. Anyway,
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Thank you so much. But anyway, what started the whole
thing is, you know, I was from the University of
Detroit and Will Robinson, who was the general manager assistant
to the general manager of Jack McCloskey for the Pistons
for years. You know in Detroit, rob you work with Wills,
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the late great Will. You know Will Robinson? Yea, absolutely, yeah.
So Will was supposed to have gotten the job when
I came from the sixty eight Olympics back to the
University of Detroit and we had George Gerb and all
those guys lined up to come to the university. We
were going to build this big dynasty and they were
niagued on the deal and then I ended up. The
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ABA came and look and said, when you know, I
found out you unhappy and we went after Kareem because
we were the two draft picks that were like really
hot property at that time and so uh and so
that they came after me. Hannah Storm's father, Mark Storm,
was the guy who recruited me for the ABA and said,
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let's go, let's break the rule and go over here
to the ABA. And then I ended up in the
ABA for the first year. When I broke all of
the records over there as a twenty year old, twenty
was gonna say, let me interrupt quickly. First year at
twenty years old, thirty points, nineteen and a half rebounds,
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forty five minutes a game, even with that red, white
and blue ball, you did all that. I mean, you
took over the ABA. My goodness, Yeah, that was something.
And then the following year I wanted to play in
the NBA. In the NBA wouldn't allow me to play
because they said, well, you have another year left on
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your eligibilities for college and you would have to sit
out a year here and I said, well, hey, I'm
the MVP. I should be playing. And so I signed
with Seattle, and the Seattle Supersonic said, well, yeah, we will.
We're a front the case. We we want you to play.
We need a big boost out here in the Northwest,
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and we need we need any publicity we can get.
And we believe in the case because we're gonna have
to start doing this to compete with the ABA, because
the ABA was getting all the young guys Julius Irvin, George, Gervin, Moses,
everybody followed me over there. So so that's when the
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draw started. And when I signed with Seattle, I thought
it would be like, you know, a little light argument
and you know, hey, guys, you know, let it go.
Let him go on and play. What the hell? And
they sued me to stop me from playing, which was
joined by the NC two A and by the University
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of Detroit, and by then from the air game, I'm like,
whoa wait a minute here. I I didn't I wasn't
bargaining for this, and so and I sued them for
the right to play, and then the case started and
once I got on the floor, they would like, have
these these nights when I would get out on the floor,
ladies and gentlemen, we got an illegal player on the floor.
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We got an injunction. We got an adjunction. We're gonna
serve him right now. They serve him with the injunction
they were. They would excort me out with bell out
of the gym and out of the column them, and
then they the junction. We were in the game. Yeah,
doing the game in junction would read, well, he must
be off the grounds in which the arena set on.
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So they put me out in the snow and stuff,
you know. So it just went on and on for
that whole year. In the Chicago Bulls. One night chet
Walker was making a lid with his bill bottom flax on.
He put in his ankle and they sued me for
six hundred, six hundred thousand dollars. Were like, where have
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I got to get all this money from? Wow? And
so it went on and on and on until in
the March of that year, I played a total of
like like twenty In between I would suspect that I
played about fifteen to twenty games. And then we finally
got to the Supreme Court where we all knew if
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we ever got to the Supreme Court. He knew the
good Marshal through Jackie Robinson and through all this stuff
they had to deal with because he was with the Tigers.
He was the scout with the Tigers and in the
Pistons and the Lions souh. So that's when we got
to when we got to the Supreme Court and everybody
was wondering, how are we going to do on this case?
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And then they came out seventy two in my favor
and we broke down the four year rule, which then
all of a sudden, the NBA started getting all of
these young guys coming into the league. We had only
fourteen teams. They expanded to the numbers we have today
and basketball has never looked back since then because we
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started getting getting a lot of young players early, and
that's when the game got opened up a little bit.
Because before rob was like guys who were like, you know,
like kind of robotic played because they played for four years.
They didn't have Flaire. Yeah, so then all of a sudden,
here come these young guys like me, hey man, I'm
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from the wreck. It was like it was like the
Globetrotters were playing BA. You know, a lot more. You know,
the happier. Don't contest they had all that stuff, right,
had point don't contest the three points shots, the halftime entertainment.
You know what happened was Joy Skervin and Rick Barry
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and I had a big conversation in Julius Irving. We
were just on a show together. We were talking about
the ABA and we were like, they took everything from
us but the ball. Right. That's why Spencer, let me
ask you this. Let me ask you this because I
was recently talking doing something on Doctor j and we
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know he won two championships in the ABA the NBA.
Most people only look at him as a one time champion.
But I'm like, when I was looking at the ABA,
and you know this, they had exhibitions with the NBA
in these years and the ABA were winning most of
the games. And I said, let me ask you, as
a guy that played in both leagues, was the ABA
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better than the NBA or equal at least to the
NBA in those days, it was sort of equal because
you know, you had a lot of young players, You
had the flare and the style that you had to
play in order to play in that league. As in
the NBA, we had, you know, older players who had
been in the league for years, and they were running,
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kicking rolls. They didn't take jump shots and stuff like that.
They played strictly by the rules. In fact, when I
got into my game in Seattle, you know, like I
ripped the ball off on a rebound, start pushing it
up the floor. Lenny was on the Lenny Wilkins was
on the wing, so I kicked it to him, and
he kicked it back to me, and I dumped from
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the free throw line like yeah, and the fans turned
around starts that who he's a hard dog. He's a
dog wow, And they I was like, whoa wow, wow, wizard.
I wish we had more time. In fact, we back.
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I think that's a great conversation. Yes, you gotta check
this out. It's by our our good friends and great journalists. Yes,
Mark Spears and Gary Washburn. He's called the Spencer Haywood Rule,
the Spencer Haywood Rule. You gotta read about it. Five
time All Star Hall of Famer Spencer Haywood. Great, thanks
(10:10):
for sure, all right. Yeah. Fox Sports Radio has the
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talked about it at the top of the show. Is
worth bringing up again Lebron James along with Colin Kaepernick
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in very different ways, but I think they're the two
defining athletes of this generation in terms of social activism
out I don't know how that's really debatable, and that's
there's somebody that's drat dramatically slipping my mind. Um and Lebron,
there's been reports he was frustrated, and I've talked to people,
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and he was frustrated with what went on with the
Milwaukee Bucks, not that they boycotted the game, but how
they did it without letting the players know. One he
thought they would have been better for them to present
a united front and all of them decide together. And also,
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and this is legit, Lebron knew also that he's gonna
be the guy answering the questions. He's gonna be the
guy with his name attached to this boycott, and I
robbed and I didn't. I understood that he's the face
of the league. But when I saw on Twitter people
essentially given Lebron credit for the boycott, I thought that
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was wrong. And Lebron is, as I said, he and
Colin Kaepernick, and he's done more intangible things, but he
and Colin Kaepernick the defining athletes of this generation in
terms of social justice. But it would not be right
to characterize Lebron James as the leader of this boycott
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because it was the Milwaukee Bucks and it was the
Raptors and the Celtics who talked about it first and
so um. But Lebron knew that he was going to
be the guy that had to answer the questions and
he was gonna have to be the one to answer
to it. And I understand these points, and I think
they're very valid and they make sense. But I stand
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with the Bucks that sometimes you just need to act
and in acting rob as we brought up Rosa Parks
didn't have a plan, Muhammad Ali didn't have a plan.
They just stood unconscious. They stood on principle, and that's yes,
yes it doesn't. Everything doesn't have to be buttoned up
and how it's gonna look. I think if and if
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this was the Orlando Magic out of nowhere, Chris, maybe
you know what I mean, But this happened in Wisconsin,
didn't it right, right, This is right. It happened forty
miles away from where. Yeah, that's what. That's what I'm
saying in Kenosha. So this makes sense to me. I
wasn't like scratching my head, going, why is the Orlando
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Magic having a boycott? Do you know? Like that? That?
Wouldn't that been? When that have been? I would have.
I would have respected it, though, but it would have been.
But you would have questioned it a little bit? Would
you have not? I don't know. I I don't think
I would have just what you're saying. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying taking the lead on it. I understand
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why this affected the Bucks and why they decided to
do something. And they weren't looking to be get an
endorsement from everybody, you know, and the other thing, Rob,
they weren't just sitting there twiddling their thumbs. They were
in the locker room on the phone with the attorney
general and the Lieutenant governor of the state. And as
we've said, the players, We've said this before it came out,
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but the players have and Lebron spearheaded this have gotten
the owners to get on board. At least that's what
they're saying at this point with their cause, and they
had released the league and the players Association release a
joint statement today about how the owners are going to
work with the players on various initiatives, one of them,
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Robb being that they will use their arenas. The owners
who have control of their arenas will use them as
voting sites, or if they can't quite be sites, if
it's too late past the deadline, they will use them
for some type of voting uh event, when it's time,
when the time is appropriate to people's getting registered or
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whatever whatever it may be. But that is a concrete,
tangible thing that came out of this. And so the Bucks,
the owners, as we say at Mark Lazari, the owners
for the Bucks got the players on the phone with
those officials. That shows you the power that they have.
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They could pick up the phone and all of a sudden,
the attorney general. You know how hard it is to
get the attorney general on the phone? There you go,
there you go, yep, Sterling Brown can't call up the
attorney general and getting no throwing the phone. And so
that was and the governor of Wisconsin has called for
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the legislature of the state to meet on Monday to
start looking at this police reform bill, and the Bucks
have made that public and brought light to that nationally,
and hopefully, I'll tell you what if that legislature does
meet next week and they passed that bill, that is
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another very strong tangible thing. You can point directly to
the players and say they got that accomplished, no doubt.
And I think that's what they were trying to do.
And that's why, you know, and I know egos getting
away and you're right, Lebron is the face of the
league or whatever. But to me, I think everything doesn't
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have to be buttoned up perfectly. It just doesn't. That's
not the way these things happen. And it's okay, it's
okay Lebron wants to figure out something or do something
and get everybody involved, that's one thing. But I just
I just don't think that Milwaukee had to and like
they did, they did a disservice to the to the
rest of the players or anything. And players had a
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right to do whatever they wanted to do. You said
it before it happened that if that first game wasn't played,
that there's no way the other guys played and we
don't figured that we knew that, right, We got that
all right? And Rob, I thought another thing that got
accomplished by the players, the Bucks, and the entire NBA
at this point was that they put the owners, the networks,
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the corporate sponsors, the commissioner, or notice that we will
go there. We will go there. When you were married, Rob,
I don't know if you ever had, you know, an
argument with your wife. I have an argument, but right
you did when obviously you said, you said, did you
did you ever not have an argument? Said? Not have?
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But you know, I shouldn't let me not even use
that relationship. But sometimes you let a person know I'll
go there. No, I know, if you push me too hard,
I'll go there. Made them take you a lot more seriously. Right.
And so the the Bucks and the NBA players have
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let the league, the owners, the commissioner, the corporate sponsors,
the networks know we will go there. And if we
go there me and it walk out, it will have ramifications.
Ramifications beyond the NBA. Major League Baseball might join us,
NFL might join us, and that daddy of them all,
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NHL might join us. But if football and Russell Wilson,
Rob said I don't know it was today or yesterday,
but he said that if the Seattle Seahawks had a
football game this upcoming week in tomorrow or Sunday play,
they would not play. And then sat KWin Barkley, of
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course of the New York Giants. He came out and said,
the players may boycott or sit out one game to
make a statement. So this thing is reverberated. And once
you start doing that in football, Rob you know you
are hitting big money, big business, and you got some
powerful people's attention. So I'm off for it. And I'll
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tell you this all you need to do. That statement
too by Jerry Jones where he said he was considering
the change. Remember last year, right, all of a sudden,
it's a compromise. Before you wouldn't wear Cowboys beautiformer. All right,
now you're coming. You know why because he already knows Chris,
he has no power or right you won't wear They
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think about that because most people and Jerry Jones was
thinking this, I'm the owner. You're gonna do what I
tell you if you don't stand. Did he say with
your hand on your heart. I don't know if he's
went that far, but if you don't stand for the
national anthem, you won't be wearing a Cowboys uniform. And
now all of a sudden is a compromise because he
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doesn't want to look stupid when half of his team
kneels down on the entire team. Now what Jerry am
I right right? Show has no power tells you. That
shows you the power that these players have. And that's
why I applauded what they did so much the Bucks
because they said, we they recognize their power and they
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were willing to use it to wield it on behalf
of the masses of African American people. And again they're
not saying, and we're not saying Jacob Blake was perfect.
They're not saying anyone. You don't even have to say that, right,
that's not even the issue. Yes, he deserved this day
in court. If he was guilty of a crime, or
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he was accused of a crime, charged with a crime,
he deserved his day in court. Knife in the car,
Hey what if he had had a gun? He if
he was a register going down or had a gun,
does that doesn't mean you could shoot it as legal exactly.
That That's the other thing too. They can't even tell
you if the kid recently walk walked up through to
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buy the police with a gun who had just murdered
two people. He came forty seven right or whatever it was,
and and what happened he was able to walk through.
I mean that he as a hero by some. Seriously, Yeah,
he's viewed as a hero by some. And I'm not
overstating it. There's been talking, I mean jokingly, but he
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could be be my president. Somebody tweeted, well known person
on the on that side. So you know, look, we
the players are under standing their power and that is
something that can be valuable in this fight for black lives,
mattering and being treated as equals in every aspect of
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FSR to listen live. A lot of people thought the
tweet the Instagram post from the great football player, the
great linebacker, Brian Erlackers stunk. Rob G tell us what
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he what he posted on Instagram? Yeah, he shared something
on his Instagram story which has since been deleted. It
was with regards to the NBA protest and this is
what he said. Well, he shared the image that read this.
Brett Farve played the Monday night football game the day
his dad died, through four tds in the first half
and was a legend for playing in the face of adversity.
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NBA players boycott the playoffs because a dude reaching for
a knife wanted on a felony sexual assault warrant was
shot by police. Brian or Lacker is just one of
many people who expose themselves during this time and tell
you exactly what they think of black people and have
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very little disregard. This has nothing to do with some
damn Brett fare playing a Monday night football game with
his dad dying. That's great, very nice, and it has
nothing to do to rip NBA players because you want
to character assassinate the dude. We got it. The police
was there for a reason. They have a right to
arrest the guy. We got it. What you don't have
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a right to do is shoot somebody in the back
seven times. You could arrest them, you could do your job.
There were four cops around this guy. They could have
apprehended him, and yet they chose the easy way out, which,
when in doubt, shoot the black guys. That's how you
stop us. I mean, it is the most ridiculous thing.
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Bravo to the people who attacked and pushed back on Erlacer,
like his former teammate Matt Forte, who said, basically quote
that the message was void of empathy, compassion, wisdom and coherence,
but full of pride and arrogance. Josh Hart from the
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Pelicans chim didn't saying do that too many concussions, and
the Chicago the Chicago Bears also disavowed those comments and
and wouldn't stand behind a guy who played for them,
and their statement was the social media post in no
way reflects the values or opinions of the Chicago Bears organization. Bravo,
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because that's not the issue. And then this, this guy
Erlac has a nerve to also like a picture of
the of the guy that said free Kyle written house
the guy shot to protesters run at AK forty seven
and that's okay. So here, come on. We talked about
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it yesterday and and I'm not defending Jacob Blake's character.
What I am defending is his right to live his
right to life all right until proven he That is
not how you deal with it, all right, they should,
as you said, Rob, I believe it was three cops
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right around him. All they had to do was tackling.
That's it. And oh he got away from him, we'll
tackle him again. It's three of you. You're trained police officers.
And here's the thing. And I'm tired of the double
standard because, to a large degree, racism is a lot
of things. One of the things it is is saying
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that white people have privileges and rights that black people don't.
And when you consistently bring up the wrongdoings of an
African American justified right yes, who has been killed by
the police, unarmed, and yet you never you don't do
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that with whites, then you are showing yourself to be
racist because you're saying, I mean, he said it, Kyle Rittenhouse,
he murdered two people, and he's liking that he murder
and we know he murdered two people. You jumped on
Jacob Blake for his crimes and we're not defending him,
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but you salute you liked Kyle Ritten the murderers for
his murders. Think about it, Think about it. That's that's
what's sick. But that's the sick part. That's why Brian
Urlacher he's sick. Chris. It doesn't make sense and it
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doesn't mean because because you you want to be judge,
jury and executioner at the scene, Chris, that's not how
it works. Have him have his day in court. I
don't know. Is it possible, Chris, on any people in
prison who are innocent. I'm asking you that people have
been people have been put to death by mistake. It's happened.
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That's not our just's not your job as a police
offer not yet's not your job. Oh you know what
when the police on the scene, Chris, normally it's because
somebody's done something bad, right, normally, so nobody's gonna have
Oh no, they would call to the scene at Chris
Buszard's house because he's an upstanding citizen, has done nothing wrong,
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has a wife and two beautiful daughters. Let's go to
his house. No, that's not where cops normally show up.
The other thing is this rob and you hear a
lot of people saying, if these guys would just comply
and not resist or rapp it stop. There are videos
of black men complying. In fact, Shannon Sharp, our colleague
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at Fox, sports One just posted one this morning or
this afternoon about a black man with his hands up
behind his head, standing there with his back to the police,
and they kicked him and started beating on him. His
girlfriend or friend, female friend, whatever she was, was videotaping
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and the cops go and take the camera from her
that he was complying. What was it. There was a
deacon or some officer in the church who was on
the highway. Black man had his hands up in the air.
Shot they shot him, shot him, killed him. Can't remember
his name. This Philando Castile officer. I'm letting you know,
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I've got a gun. I'm reaching for my gun right now.
I'm letting you know. And he was shot dead. I saved,
saved with the the guy that was in North Carolina, Chris.
They asked him for his life, he had on sweatpants,
asked him for his driver, why truck He was in
a white truck. And remember he goes in to get
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and they shot him. They asked he fortunately didn't die,
but yeah, he went to grab his wallet and they
shot him. They shot him, And I asked you if
this is happening with this frequency nowadays, when cops have
body cams and know that any civilian could be videotaping him.
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How much was it happening before this technology. Come on, man,
come on,
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s R. You're listening to the Best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brush and Rod Harker. All right, this
guy was a superstar, so much so that he's in
the Hall of Fame. We told you about his book
a few weeks ago. We're telling you about it again,
The Spencer Haywood Rule. It was written by our friends
(00:44):
and great journalists themselves, Mark Spears and Gary Washburn. We
welcome Spencer Haywood to the Spencer Man. How are you?
How are you doing? How are you doing? NABJ WHOA Yeah, man, Spencer,
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you know that it's great to have. It is great
to have, wonderful, so wonderful, y'all. Love my god, that
history you were just teachings. Yeah, well we'll tell us.
Look you, I mean we mentioned it earlier in the show.
Kurt Flood, you opened up free agency for all as
(01:28):
professional athletes. Yeah, and he doesn't get the respect or
the renown that he should. And you opened up what's
now the hardship rule. But the ability for players to
go from college, you know, after one, two, three years,
rather than having to wait for and obviously at times
different times, and I think it'll come back. Players could
(01:49):
go straight from high school. Tell us about that fight,
what moved you to do it and how tough it
was for you? Oh it was, it was tough. But
let me just say, it's a pleasure to be on
with you guys. Really. I respect y'all professional big time. Anyway,
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Thank you so much. But anyway, what started the whole
thing is, you know, I was from the University of
Detroit and Will Robinson, who was the general manager assistant
to the general manager of Jack McCloskey for the Pistons
for years. You know in Detroit, rob you work with Wills,
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the late great Will. You know Will Robinson? Yea, absolutely, yeah.
So Will was supposed to have gotten the job when
I came from the sixty eight Olympics back to the
University of Detroit and we had George Gerb and all
those guys lined up to come to the university. We
were going to build this big dynasty and they were
niagued on the deal and then I ended up. The
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ABA came and look and said, when you know, I
found out you unhappy and we went after Kareem because
we were the two draft picks that were like really
hot property at that time and so uh and so
that they came after me. Hannah Storm's father, Mark Storm,
was the guy who recruited me for the ABA and said,
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let's go, let's break the rule and go over here
to the ABA. And then I ended up in the
ABA for the first year. When I broke all of
the records over there as a twenty year old, twenty
was gonna say, let me interrupt quickly. First year at
twenty years old, thirty points, nineteen and a half rebounds,
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forty five minutes a game, even with that red, white
and blue ball, you did all that. I mean, you
took over the ABA. My goodness, Yeah, that was something.
And then the following year I wanted to play in
the NBA. In the NBA wouldn't allow me to play
because they said, well, you have another year left on
(04:04):
your eligibilities for college and you would have to sit
out a year here and I said, well, hey, I'm
the MVP. I should be playing. And so I signed
with Seattle, and the Seattle Supersonic said, well, yeah, we will.
We're a front the case. We we want you to play.
We need a big boost out here in the Northwest,
(04:26):
and we need we need any publicity we can get.
And we believe in the case because we're gonna have
to start doing this to compete with the ABA, because
the ABA was getting all the young guys Julius Irvin, George, Gervin, Moses,
everybody followed me over there. So so that's when the
(04:46):
draw started. And when I signed with Seattle, I thought
it would be like, you know, a little light argument
and you know, hey, guys, you know, let it go.
Let him go on and play. What the hell? And
they sued me to stop me from playing, which was
joined by the NC two A and by the University
(05:07):
of Detroit, and by then from the air game, I'm like,
whoa wait a minute here. I I didn't I wasn't
bargaining for this, and so and I sued them for
the right to play, and then the case started and
once I got on the floor, they would like, have
these these nights when I would get out on the floor,
ladies and gentlemen, we got an illegal player on the floor.
(05:30):
We got an injunction. We got an adjunction. We're gonna
serve him right now. They serve him with the injunction
they were. They would excort me out with bell out
of the gym and out of the column them, and
then they the junction. We were in the game. Yeah,
doing the game in junction would read, well, he must
be off the grounds in which the arena set on.
(05:51):
So they put me out in the snow and stuff,
you know. So it just went on and on for
that whole year. In the Chicago Bulls. One night chet
Walker was making a lid with his bill bottom flax on.
He put in his ankle and they sued me for
six hundred, six hundred thousand dollars. Were like, where have
(06:11):
I got to get all this money from? Wow? And
so it went on and on and on until in
the March of that year, I played a total of
like like twenty In between I would suspect that I
played about fifteen to twenty games. And then we finally
got to the Supreme Court where we all knew if
(06:34):
we ever got to the Supreme Court. He knew the
good Marshal through Jackie Robinson and through all this stuff
they had to deal with because he was with the Tigers.
He was the scout with the Tigers and in the
Pistons and the Lions souh. So that's when we got
to when we got to the Supreme Court and everybody
was wondering, how are we going to do on this case?
(06:55):
And then they came out seventy two in my favor
and we broke down the four year rule, which then
all of a sudden, the NBA started getting all of
these young guys coming into the league. We had only
fourteen teams. They expanded to the numbers we have today
and basketball has never looked back since then because we
(07:18):
started getting getting a lot of young players early, and
that's when the game got opened up a little bit.
Because before rob was like guys who were like, you know,
like kind of robotic played because they played for four years.
They didn't have Flaire. Yeah, so then all of a sudden,
here come these young guys like me, hey man, I'm
(07:38):
from the wreck. It was like it was like the
Globetrotters were playing BA. You know, a lot more. You know,
the happier. Don't contest they had all that stuff, right,
had point don't contest the three points shots, the halftime entertainment.
You know what happened was Joy Skervin and Rick Barry
(08:01):
and I had a big conversation in Julius Irving. We
were just on a show together. We were talking about
the ABA and we were like, they took everything from
us but the ball. Right. That's why Spencer, let me
ask you this. Let me ask you this because I
was recently talking doing something on Doctor j and we
(08:21):
know he won two championships in the ABA the NBA.
Most people only look at him as a one time champion.
But I'm like, when I was looking at the ABA,
and you know this, they had exhibitions with the NBA
in these years and the ABA were winning most of
the games. And I said, let me ask you, as
a guy that played in both leagues, was the ABA
(08:45):
better than the NBA or equal at least to the
NBA in those days, it was sort of equal because
you know, you had a lot of young players, You
had the flare and the style that you had to
play in order to play in that league. As in
the NBA, we had, you know, older players who had
been in the league for years, and they were running,
(09:07):
kicking rolls. They didn't take jump shots and stuff like that.
They played strictly by the rules. In fact, when I
got into my game in Seattle, you know, like I
ripped the ball off on a rebound, start pushing it
up the floor. Lenny was on the Lenny Wilkins was
on the wing, so I kicked it to him, and
he kicked it back to me, and I dumped from
(09:28):
the free throw line like yeah, and the fans turned
around starts that who he's a hard dog. He's a
dog wow, And they I was like, whoa wow, wow, wizard.
I wish we had more time. In fact, we back.
(09:50):
I think that's a great conversation. Yes, you gotta check
this out. It's by our our good friends and great journalists. Yes,
Mark Spears and Gary Washburn. He's called the Spencer Haywood Rule,
the Spencer Haywood Rule. You gotta read about it. Five
time All Star Hall of Famer Spencer Haywood. Great, thanks
(10:10):
for sure, all right. Yeah. Fox Sports Radio has the
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talked about it at the top of the show. Is
worth bringing up again Lebron James along with Colin Kaepernick
(10:34):
in very different ways, but I think they're the two
defining athletes of this generation in terms of social activism
out I don't know how that's really debatable, and that's
there's somebody that's drat dramatically slipping my mind. Um and Lebron,
there's been reports he was frustrated, and I've talked to people,
(10:56):
and he was frustrated with what went on with the
Milwaukee Bucks, not that they boycotted the game, but how
they did it without letting the players know. One he
thought they would have been better for them to present
a united front and all of them decide together. And also,
(11:18):
and this is legit, Lebron knew also that he's gonna
be the guy answering the questions. He's gonna be the
guy with his name attached to this boycott, and I
robbed and I didn't. I understood that he's the face
of the league. But when I saw on Twitter people
essentially given Lebron credit for the boycott, I thought that
(11:41):
was wrong. And Lebron is, as I said, he and
Colin Kaepernick, and he's done more intangible things, but he
and Colin Kaepernick the defining athletes of this generation in
terms of social justice. But it would not be right
to characterize Lebron James as the leader of this boycott
(12:01):
because it was the Milwaukee Bucks and it was the
Raptors and the Celtics who talked about it first and
so um. But Lebron knew that he was going to
be the guy that had to answer the questions and
he was gonna have to be the one to answer
to it. And I understand these points, and I think
they're very valid and they make sense. But I stand
(12:23):
with the Bucks that sometimes you just need to act
and in acting rob as we brought up Rosa Parks
didn't have a plan, Muhammad Ali didn't have a plan.
They just stood unconscious. They stood on principle, and that's yes,
yes it doesn't. Everything doesn't have to be buttoned up
and how it's gonna look. I think if and if
(12:45):
this was the Orlando Magic out of nowhere, Chris, maybe
you know what I mean, But this happened in Wisconsin,
didn't it right, right, This is right. It happened forty
miles away from where. Yeah, that's what. That's what I'm
saying in Kenosha. So this makes sense to me. I
wasn't like scratching my head, going, why is the Orlando
(13:07):
Magic having a boycott? Do you know? Like that? That?
Wouldn't that been? When that have been? I would have.
I would have respected it, though, but it would have been.
But you would have questioned it a little bit? Would
you have not? I don't know. I I don't think
I would have just what you're saying. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying taking the lead on it. I understand
(13:29):
why this affected the Bucks and why they decided to
do something. And they weren't looking to be get an
endorsement from everybody, you know, and the other thing, Rob,
they weren't just sitting there twiddling their thumbs. They were
in the locker room on the phone with the attorney
general and the Lieutenant governor of the state. And as
we've said, the players, We've said this before it came out,
(13:54):
but the players have and Lebron spearheaded this have gotten
the owners to get on board. At least that's what
they're saying at this point with their cause, and they
had released the league and the players Association release a
joint statement today about how the owners are going to
work with the players on various initiatives, one of them,
(14:16):
Robb being that they will use their arenas. The owners
who have control of their arenas will use them as
voting sites, or if they can't quite be sites, if
it's too late past the deadline, they will use them
for some type of voting uh event, when it's time,
when the time is appropriate to people's getting registered or
(14:40):
whatever whatever it may be. But that is a concrete,
tangible thing that came out of this. And so the Bucks,
the owners, as we say at Mark Lazari, the owners
for the Bucks got the players on the phone with
those officials. That shows you the power that they have.
(15:01):
They could pick up the phone and all of a sudden,
the attorney general. You know how hard it is to
get the attorney general on the phone? There you go,
there you go, yep, Sterling Brown can't call up the
attorney general and getting no throwing the phone. And so
that was and the governor of Wisconsin has called for
(15:22):
the legislature of the state to meet on Monday to
start looking at this police reform bill, and the Bucks
have made that public and brought light to that nationally,
and hopefully, I'll tell you what if that legislature does
meet next week and they passed that bill, that is
(15:43):
another very strong tangible thing. You can point directly to
the players and say they got that accomplished, no doubt.
And I think that's what they were trying to do.
And that's why, you know, and I know egos getting
away and you're right, Lebron is the face of the
league or whatever. But to me, I think everything doesn't
(16:04):
have to be buttoned up perfectly. It just doesn't. That's
not the way these things happen. And it's okay, it's
okay Lebron wants to figure out something or do something
and get everybody involved, that's one thing. But I just
I just don't think that Milwaukee had to and like
they did, they did a disservice to the to the
rest of the players or anything. And players had a
(16:27):
right to do whatever they wanted to do. You said
it before it happened that if that first game wasn't played,
that there's no way the other guys played and we
don't figured that we knew that, right, We got that
all right? And Rob, I thought another thing that got
accomplished by the players, the Bucks, and the entire NBA
at this point was that they put the owners, the networks,
(16:48):
the corporate sponsors, the commissioner, or notice that we will
go there. We will go there. When you were married, Rob,
I don't know if you ever had, you know, an
argument with your wife. I have an argument, but right
you did when obviously you said, you said, did you
did you ever not have an argument? Said? Not have?
(17:11):
But you know, I shouldn't let me not even use
that relationship. But sometimes you let a person know I'll
go there. No, I know, if you push me too hard,
I'll go there. Made them take you a lot more seriously. Right.
And so the the Bucks and the NBA players have
(17:32):
let the league, the owners, the commissioner, the corporate sponsors,
the networks know we will go there. And if we
go there me and it walk out, it will have ramifications.
Ramifications beyond the NBA. Major League Baseball might join us,
NFL might join us, and that daddy of them all,
(17:56):
NHL might join us. But if football and Russell Wilson,
Rob said I don't know it was today or yesterday,
but he said that if the Seattle Seahawks had a
football game this upcoming week in tomorrow or Sunday play,
they would not play. And then sat KWin Barkley, of
(18:16):
course of the New York Giants. He came out and said,
the players may boycott or sit out one game to
make a statement. So this thing is reverberated. And once
you start doing that in football, Rob you know you
are hitting big money, big business, and you got some
powerful people's attention. So I'm off for it. And I'll
(18:39):
tell you this all you need to do. That statement
too by Jerry Jones where he said he was considering
the change. Remember last year, right, all of a sudden,
it's a compromise. Before you wouldn't wear Cowboys beautiformer. All right,
now you're coming. You know why because he already knows Chris,
he has no power or right you won't wear They
(19:00):
think about that because most people and Jerry Jones was
thinking this, I'm the owner. You're gonna do what I
tell you if you don't stand. Did he say with
your hand on your heart. I don't know if he's
went that far, but if you don't stand for the
national anthem, you won't be wearing a Cowboys uniform. And
now all of a sudden is a compromise because he
(19:21):
doesn't want to look stupid when half of his team
kneels down on the entire team. Now what Jerry am
I right right? Show has no power tells you. That
shows you the power that these players have. And that's
why I applauded what they did so much the Bucks
because they said, we they recognize their power and they
(19:46):
were willing to use it to wield it on behalf
of the masses of African American people. And again they're
not saying, and we're not saying Jacob Blake was perfect.
They're not saying anyone. You don't even have to say that, right,
that's not even the issue. Yes, he deserved this day
in court. If he was guilty of a crime, or
(20:08):
he was accused of a crime, charged with a crime,
he deserved his day in court. Knife in the car,
Hey what if he had had a gun? He if
he was a register going down or had a gun,
does that doesn't mean you could shoot it as legal exactly.
That That's the other thing too. They can't even tell
you if the kid recently walk walked up through to
(20:29):
buy the police with a gun who had just murdered
two people. He came forty seven right or whatever it was,
and and what happened he was able to walk through.
I mean that he as a hero by some. Seriously, Yeah,
he's viewed as a hero by some. And I'm not
overstating it. There's been talking, I mean jokingly, but he
(20:49):
could be be my president. Somebody tweeted, well known person
on the on that side. So you know, look, we
the players are under standing their power and that is
something that can be valuable in this fight for black lives,
mattering and being treated as equals in every aspect of
(21:13):
American life. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk
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FSR to listen live. A lot of people thought the
tweet the Instagram post from the great football player, the
great linebacker, Brian Erlackers stunk. Rob G tell us what
(21:37):
he what he posted on Instagram? Yeah, he shared something
on his Instagram story which has since been deleted. It
was with regards to the NBA protest and this is
what he said. Well, he shared the image that read this.
Brett Farve played the Monday night football game the day
his dad died, through four tds in the first half
and was a legend for playing in the face of adversity.
(21:58):
NBA players boycott the playoffs because a dude reaching for
a knife wanted on a felony sexual assault warrant was
shot by police. Brian or Lacker is just one of
many people who expose themselves during this time and tell
you exactly what they think of black people and have
(22:18):
very little disregard. This has nothing to do with some
damn Brett fare playing a Monday night football game with
his dad dying. That's great, very nice, and it has
nothing to do to rip NBA players because you want
to character assassinate the dude. We got it. The police
was there for a reason. They have a right to
arrest the guy. We got it. What you don't have
(22:41):
a right to do is shoot somebody in the back
seven times. You could arrest them, you could do your job.
There were four cops around this guy. They could have
apprehended him, and yet they chose the easy way out, which,
when in doubt, shoot the black guys. That's how you
stop us. I mean, it is the most ridiculous thing.
(23:03):
Bravo to the people who attacked and pushed back on Erlacer,
like his former teammate Matt Forte, who said, basically quote
that the message was void of empathy, compassion, wisdom and coherence,
but full of pride and arrogance. Josh Hart from the
(23:23):
Pelicans chim didn't saying do that too many concussions, and
the Chicago the Chicago Bears also disavowed those comments and
and wouldn't stand behind a guy who played for them,
and their statement was the social media post in no
way reflects the values or opinions of the Chicago Bears organization. Bravo,
(23:47):
because that's not the issue. And then this, this guy
Erlac has a nerve to also like a picture of
the of the guy that said free Kyle written house
the guy shot to protesters run at AK forty seven
and that's okay. So here, come on. We talked about
(24:09):
it yesterday and and I'm not defending Jacob Blake's character.
What I am defending is his right to live his
right to life all right until proven he That is
not how you deal with it, all right, they should,
as you said, Rob, I believe it was three cops
(24:29):
right around him. All they had to do was tackling.
That's it. And oh he got away from him, we'll
tackle him again. It's three of you. You're trained police officers.
And here's the thing. And I'm tired of the double
standard because, to a large degree, racism is a lot
of things. One of the things it is is saying
(24:53):
that white people have privileges and rights that black people don't.
And when you consistently bring up the wrongdoings of an
African American justified right yes, who has been killed by
the police, unarmed, and yet you never you don't do
(25:14):
that with whites, then you are showing yourself to be
racist because you're saying, I mean, he said it, Kyle Rittenhouse,
he murdered two people, and he's liking that he murder
and we know he murdered two people. You jumped on
Jacob Blake for his crimes and we're not defending him,
(25:36):
but you salute you liked Kyle Ritten the murderers for
his murders. Think about it, Think about it. That's that's
what's sick. But that's the sick part. That's why Brian
Urlacher he's sick. Chris. It doesn't make sense and it
(25:58):
doesn't mean because because you you want to be judge,
jury and executioner at the scene, Chris, that's not how
it works. Have him have his day in court. I
don't know. Is it possible, Chris, on any people in
prison who are innocent. I'm asking you that people have
been people have been put to death by mistake. It's happened.
(26:22):
That's not our just's not your job as a police
offer not yet's not your job. Oh you know what
when the police on the scene, Chris, normally it's because
somebody's done something bad, right, normally, so nobody's gonna have
Oh no, they would call to the scene at Chris
Buszard's house because he's an upstanding citizen, has done nothing wrong,
(26:42):
has a wife and two beautiful daughters. Let's go to
his house. No, that's not where cops normally show up.
The other thing is this rob and you hear a
lot of people saying, if these guys would just comply
and not resist or rapp it stop. There are videos
of black men complying. In fact, Shannon Sharp, our colleague
(27:04):
at Fox, sports One just posted one this morning or
this afternoon about a black man with his hands up
behind his head, standing there with his back to the police,
and they kicked him and started beating on him. His
girlfriend or friend, female friend, whatever she was, was videotaping
(27:24):
and the cops go and take the camera from her
that he was complying. What was it. There was a
deacon or some officer in the church who was on
the highway. Black man had his hands up in the air.
Shot they shot him, shot him, killed him. Can't remember
his name. This Philando Castile officer. I'm letting you know,
(27:49):
I've got a gun. I'm reaching for my gun right now.
I'm letting you know. And he was shot dead. I saved,
saved with the the guy that was in North Carolina, Chris.
They asked him for his life, he had on sweatpants,
asked him for his driver, why truck He was in
a white truck. And remember he goes in to get
(28:11):
and they shot him. They asked he fortunately didn't die,
but yeah, he went to grab his wallet and they
shot him. They shot him, And I asked you if
this is happening with this frequency nowadays, when cops have
body cams and know that any civilian could be videotaping him.
(28:32):
How much was it happening before this technology. Come on, man,
come on,
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