March 22, 2019 • 35 mins
It's the best of The Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker! On today's show Chris and Rob get in a heated debate over Tom Izzo and whether his actions toward freshman Aaron Henry were over the line in their March Madness debut against Bradley. In Celebrity Corner, Mario Lopez from 'The 3 Knockdown Rule' and 'Listen to Mario' podcasts comes on the show to talk about his LA sports teams and boxing fandom. Florida State Head Coach Leonard Hamilton is comparing Ja Morant to Magic Johnson ahead of their second round match up. The guys discuss whether or not Morant can pass Zion as the number one pick in the NBA draft.
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s R. You're listening to the best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brusso and Rod Harker. Let's get to
the NCAA Tournament today. I'm I've lost track of my bracket.
That means your brackets no good. If you I'm doing
I'm I'm well over five hundred. Really, yeah, yeah, I'm
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well over five hundred, but I've lost a few. I
did pick Buffalo, they one. I got Buffalo going to
the final four, so step I don't know I was
going today. They didn't. They won going away. How it
did it did? That was just mine. You know what,
They're tough. My thing was, every once in a while,
you're gonna put a school nobody's really talking about, and
they're pretty good. What were they they were a six seed? Yeah, yeah,
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they were pretty good. They'd beat Syracuse earlier. And you're
never thirty one and three. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But but nobody thinks about Buffalo, is what I'm saying,
even though they had a great run. That's Alex's philosophy too.
He actually picked Saint Mary's in bell Mind. Saint Mary's
in Belle Mind. What yo? I had a chance there
for Like, that's like picking uh the Clippers against uh
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Miami right now, That's what that is. That's that's like
doing that. Remember Chris said the Clippers were gonna tank, right,
because we're gonna tank. Then I was told they weren't
tell you yes, and they were right. They went for it.
They think it's good for the brand, which it is,
to make the playoffs. And only it only had twelfth pick,
eleventh pick. It ain't like it ain't like you giving
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up a top five pick. Then I could see you
not wanting to win. But anyway, how you feeling about
the tournament so far? I saw some good games the
day I thought, Uh, where was the upset? Well, you
see Irvine of course upset Kansas State. I lost that one. Um,
but there was a game, uh somebody was Virginia was
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had their hands full with Gardner Webb in the first half.
They were actually down sick Gardener web I think you
could get a good uh sofa or love seed or
whatever another front anyway. Um, yeah, so that's Gardener Virginia
we just I mean it was. It could have been
Gardner Webb and it still would have been would have
been I'm just saying. But people all over remember I
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don't think so. Even Kauai didn't like that, but I
was laughing by Alex laughed. Remember Virginia of course lost
last year. They became the first number one seed to
a sixteen U NBC U NBC was that's University of Maryland,
Baltimore County. Is that what that is? Something like that.
I thought it was a don't shoot of NBC television.
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I wasn't really sure what NBC you are. You are
not off to a good start. No, No, we're good.
I'm woman up to zero zero. I did other dispute
it so far I did. Oh yeah, we talked about
tom Izzo. That's been good today, that's been good than today.
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But but let's talk before we get to Zoe, and
we'll let people. We ended the show last night with
the ISO stuff. People linking a chance to chime and
we're gonna let you chime in on that coming up.
You're gonna be able to hit us up at eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine,
six sixty three sixty nine. Very nice stereo. But yeah,
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give what do you think he was a crossed the line?
He was overboard or that's just coaching. Yeah, we'll get
into that. But but I guess the thing tonight is
this whole zion camra as CBS trying to lure us in.
Are they gonna show us? Uh? They I guess hired
a camera and camera or the science. So are they
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gonna have a little box? I mean, and we're at
are they gonna have a little bit camp? I don't
think I think that'd be too distracting. I just think
they mean they will have every moment of so they
could go back and something goes on, they could just
go to that and you'll catch the whole dump. He's
sitting back a Capri son on the sideline. I don't
know if I like it For a college kid, it
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just you know, it just seems like it's something that
could hopefully it doesn't what It seems like a good kid.
I don't think it will distract him, but it could
distract you away. But don't They always say about you're
not supposed to get anything more than your teammates, So
this is yeah, right, that's what they say. He can't
get paid, he can't get you know, you can't get
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a free he couldn't. Who came. You can't get a
free pizza because everybody else on the team didn't get paid.
I can't get any food. You can't get anything for free.
If somebody wanted to, like the crash, but CB asking zero,
you don't even make make one camera right sponsored by?
It might be they might get a sponsorship, right right?
You think you'll get any money? No, I just yeah,
and I wouldn't. That's I don't like that aspect of
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as you said, but I would. It's just I don't
know how I feel about it. You know, it's just
it's not his fault, certainly, but it can just all
you away from the team concept. And when I read
it was in his head, you know the team that
it pulls away from the team. Well, yeah, and the
whole idea. I'm thinking I've been watching uh NCAA attorney
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March Madness for thirty five years. I never remember them
putting the camera on one, you know what I mean.
So that and I get it. Nowadays they get all
these tangles and technology, So I'm like, why him. There
was a lot of players that could have done this
for way way before this, right, So I don't know.
It's plenty of love anyway. I mean, he gets the
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lion's share of the credit and the coverage and all that.
Now you got to throw something else on top of it.
You know. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in
the world, but it's just I could do without it.
So we'll see, if you know, we'll see how it works.
This my buddy of former producer of mine in Detroit
name is flies Flage. He sent me a text and
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tell me, have you guys, any of you guys heard this?
He said, CBS is advertising on attorney games. He goes,
if you want sports scores without with without all the
yelling and fake debates, did you hear that? I heard
that today. I heard that the games. That's what's let's
tell let's let's keep it real. Let's really share with
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the listeners, because you're right there, fake debates, that's what
what caught me. That's what I'm like. I was debates
I did first take at the other network, if you
did it dating back to Cole Pizza, I know, two
thousand and two thousand and five, whatever, we go way back.
We've obviously we're on Undisputed with Skipping, Shannon and the
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other shows. Never once, it's I've probably been on those
shows combined hundreds of times, question hundreds of times. Never
once have I been asked, not not told, even asked
to take side the side that you don't believe it
never won never happened. And I tell people that all
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the time. They go, do you guys just know these
are our opinions. And sometimes like today on the Zel thing,
it's three of us, me, Skip and Shannon, and we
all agreed that we thought it was out of bounds.
So so we didn't have a dissenting voice because the
three guys all so sometimes we do do that, we
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know when we feel like we're all very passionate and
have different points of view on it and to what degree.
But we didn't make it up and go, oh, Rob,
can you take this side? Since you worked in Michigan
and you you know, you know Tomzzo take the other
or take skip? Can you never never? Because the thing
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that makes those shows is the passion? Yes, and if
if you're faking it, then there's not gonna be any
pass People know when you're faking it and you're you know,
your heart's not in it. Let me tell you something.
If you missed the last ten minutes of our show,
you tell me that one of us were asked to
right to last night last night. Right, it's just unbridled
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passion from guys who just happened to disagree on this topic.
And let's let's again we're throwing it out to you
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine sixty. Do you think time Isol was out of
bounds or was he just, you know, no big deal?
I honestly, Rob, I didn't think it was a big deal. Um.
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I thought he yelled at the kid, and he yelled
at him strong, And that can can be a part
of coaches. There are coaching coaches that don't do that,
but there are plenty of coaches that do do that.
I'm not gonna try to compare myself to these guys
because I didn't play big time college basketball, but all
through junior high high school and when I played basketball
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in college at the lower level, I got yelled at
and everybody got yelled at. And it was a part
of coaching. When I first signed up to play football
in the third grade, all the older kids, yeah, you
gotta be ready to coach, going, Yeah, it's gonna be
yelling and you know, and that was just something you
expected and it's part of it, and that I'm not.
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I'm not one of those that, oh, just because I
went through it it makes it right, because there are
a lot of things I went through that I don't
think are right. But as far as coaching, I think
the line is when you're putting your hands on a kid,
you're using racial slurs, you're getting personal, you know, insulting
him something about him personally, you know, things like that.
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And I thought what is Oo did was was fine.
I thought he totally crossed the line, especially when you
run up to a kid with a bald fist, like,
did you see the anger and his I mean, I can't.
I'm not a no I saw it. I can't. It's
not about being about we're not in the court of law.
I'm talking about what I saw with my eyes. See
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somebody I mean, I'm ever somebody's angry, it's gonna look,
there's no way you should ever go alling at my kids.
And you catch it in one one moment. I watched
the video. I saw the whole thing and he had
his fist. What is a fist for? If you want
to that's not coaching, that's being a bullet thing. He
was gonna hit the kids. I don't know. I think
he wanted to. And then they sit down and sitting down,
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they sit down in the huddle and he lunges at
him again, what is that? That ain't coaching? Show me
one video of coach k doing that garbage one just
because he doesn't do it now. And here's the other one. Coach.
I wanted to read this. I wanted to read this.
This is what I love. Jay Billis, who looks out
for the athlete. So are we gonna read everybody? No,
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because because about you could read that's fine. I just
hate Michigan State players defended his own. I want to.
I just gave you mine. I just want to read
this because I think it's important. And that's all. Jay
Billis just said that, and I'm gonna read the whole thing.
I'm not gonna edit it. I know Tom is on
where he's coming from. He has a track record as
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a coach and it's a great one. It's about what
is said, not the volume. For a young coach coming up,
I wouldn't recommend a similar approach, like it or not.
Things have change and coaching has changed. Young coaches need
to adapt methods. That's all he wrote. So what I'm
saying is that might have worked before, it doesn't work anymore.
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People are more sophisticated and people don't just buy in
because he's an authority figure. That's how we got to
the meet too movement, where people who are authority figures
and you didn't want to go against them. People now
speak up against authority figures people when they're doing wrong.
That's why so many things went bad. That's why Bobby
Knight was allowed to turn into the mobs. Bobby Night, No,
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that's when he turned into a monster because everybody made
an excuse for Bobby Knight. They made an excuseby night
he showed up with a with a whip. Why you
you compare. I'm just saying when they allowed, they allowed
Bobby Knight to get to that point and then like
that from day he wasn't choking out kids from day
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what's up eighteen eighty and eighty one? How hard he coached.
I'm talking about physically touching people and and and you
don't think he did that in the seventies. Okay, I
don't check your history. I will surey because I never
saw it. I'm just telling you won't be shown the
way he got fired because he finally did it to
a kid. He wasn't even on the basketball team. Every
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sub kids said hey night, and he went into a
rage because he didn't call him coach Night or mister
Knight or whatever, and he choked the kid. That's how
he lost his job. Every little development in twenty nineteen
isn't that doesn't mean this right, just because always twenty
nineteen we do. No, some things in the past were fine.
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Everything wasn't wrong back then. Nobody said it was. But
we've gotten smarter and better as people and we treat people. Yes,
we have gotten softer. No, that's we've got What does
that mean? We hear that? All it means ain't yelling
yell that ain't got nothing. Now you can yell out yelling. Great,
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I saw about yell at you right, it's fine, but
this is a debate conversation. That's all right, there's a authority,
is fine. No, not when you want to kid. You
want a kid with your fill up self said it
was okay, your kids gonna say it. No, all those
kids are All those kids are brainwashing because because went
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to some one kids comes in and gives him a
scholarship and comes into the hole he was beholding to
that guy. And I'll tell you this, your problem is
offering him a scholars the kid. His kid's gonna went
to another stay already there. He knows he didn't mess
up his old career there and he he didn't have
to choose time. Once he was there, he can't go back.
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He knew that he can't do it. Oh, he didn't
know his own yeller. He didn't know his o was
gonna ball up his fish and try to sock him
in the Mazo was a yeller, I'm telling you, and
sand his own has been doing that forever and they
don't think. Nobody ever thinks it's gonna happen to them.
I stop it. I went into college know when I
was gonna get yelled at, let's stop making pants he's
out of people. That's macho Christmassa whatever, get flat foot
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you nothing, guys washed you not the guy dropping dead
at fifty five and can't play with their kids. All
the souls all that's it, and I'm macho football League.
Oh kid, yell everybody's made a ceramic. They're getting the
cracked snow flakes there May seven, seven ninety nine on
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stool You yell at him, They're gonna fall apart. Be
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We're excited to bring in our next guest. You hear
the music behind us. This is how he became famous,
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Saved by the Bell. But now he has his own
radio show on iHeartRadio. It's called On with Mario Lopez.
He has two podcasts, well, one podcast, The Three Not
Down Rule, and then he's also the co co host
on an Extra and he has another podcast, This Guy's
Busy Man. Listen to Mario. That's the other podcast, none
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other then Mario Lopez. Mario, Mario, thank you for having
me gentlemen, I appreciate it, glad we're playing with connected
definitely when you heard us playing the music save by
the Bell. And I don't know if you like or
don't like looking back at those days, but I think
one thing that's great for you. A lot of people
that are in these great child stars or even adults,
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they can't move out of that role. Like we were
talking earlier about the Fonds on Happy Days and he
had trouble moving out of role. Batman, Adam, you've obviously
been able to do that. Was that hard for you
to do or were there challenges in your way as
far as moving out of the say By the Bell character. Well,
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there's always challenges when you're making a transition as a
child actor into the adult world, especially when you were
on a popular kid show and you get stereotype for
your character. But I feel very blessed for that opportunity.
I can't believe it's still on thirty some one years
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years later and in one hundred and eighty three countries,
So I just kind of blows me away for like
this little Saturday morning show that resonated with so many people.
You know, it trips me out, but I feel very
fortunate that I was able to stay as busy as
I have and do many do as many different things
I'm able to be doing, from you know, Broadway and
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written a few books to being a New York Times
bestselling author and hosting like five different shows, and you know,
very very fortunate. And I think blessed with a great
family and support system. And I always had a strong
work ethic. So you know, Mom put me out of singing, dancing, acting,
playing sports, doing everything growing up, and I think that
helped as far as multitasking and not necessarily just seeing
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myself in a certain way. I always wanted to be
as diverse as possible. So, you know, sport out so far,
so good. Haven't had to get a real job. As
my dad would say, that's right. And you know, speaking
of sports, that's what we met. We met in the
suite at a Dodgers World Series game. So the seasons
about to start next week, next Thursday, and of course
the Dodgers went to back to back World Series. You
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think they can make it a third year in a row,
and what's the possibility of finally winning it for the
first time in thirty two years. You know, I took myself.
I was so honored to be able to be in
a former Boys Club member, be out there and represent
the Boys and Girls Club of America for the first
home game in both of those series, and got to
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take my son on the field with me. And he
looks at me after every series is over because I
take me. He's like, it's all right, Dad, we didn't win.
We'll just come back next year. And I'm like, it
doesn't work like that. He's only he's only five, and
he just thinks the Dodgers are gonna be in the
World Series every year, and I'm like, nah, no, I
mean it'd be awesome, but hey, listen, we've been so
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spoiled out here and add they've been pretty Uh. The
one that really just breaks my heart is Houston. Huge
stin up breaks my heart. Boston. You gotta give it
up to him. They all around, I think we're just
a better team talked to bottom, but Houston, I feel
like we we blew that one, to be quite honest.
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So it's frustrating, but hey, I'm always down with the Dodgers,
win or lose. And that's probably my favorite team sports
to attend in person. To tell the true nothing better
than a baseball game on a beautiful night. Mario, you
said you grew up playing sports. What was your favorite
sport and what kind of athlete were you. I grew
up wrestling and boxing because I was ung And like
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I said, I could only focus on the individual sports
because team sports you had to be there right right right.
They don't let you slide with that. But when you're wrestling,
all you gotta do is beat out the guy in
your weight class. So, and I've always been fond of
individual sports anyway, just because, just like life, there's no
one to rely on but yourself, and I don't want
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to have to worry about someone else for my success.
And if I lose, I wanted to be because of me,
and if I win, I want all the glory. So
I want I've always been parcel to individual sports, and
I just think it's a takes a certain kind of
man to uh participating in them. So I've got my son,
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You've got two kids, one on the way, and I
got congratulations, thank you. So he's wrestling, he's doing jiu jitsu,
he's he's doing gymnastics. All individual sports. Wow. So I
just think it kind of at the very least. I
like what it teaches a lot of self confidence. I
can still go a lot of discipline, not to mention
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self defense, and those are all astributes that I think
will help them contribute and just light. It's the eye couple.
We're joined on celebrity Corner by Mario Lopez. Mario, what
about football? Chargers fan or Rams which fan? I'm a
Chargers fan, man. You know, originally I was born in
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uh San Diego. For two of us, I'm a Bordertown kid.
I'm okay for first generation right here, so you know
my turns immigrated from Mexico. So I grew up a
Chargers fan. But I've been coming to LA since I
was ten years old and essentially really you know and Angelina.
But nevertheless, always like the Chargers. Um, so I'm Chargers, Dodgers,
Lakers all day, Lakers. Not a good not a good season,
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first year where you're shocked by this and I'm making
a play. A lot of people thought when Lebron came
that it was gonna be back to the glory days. Well,
I'm always the eternal optimist, so I was hoping that
was the case. And then I quickly realized that We've
been a hoodwink and la as cold as Ice. True
because the game was I out there were talking there,
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they were chanting, we want Kobe. I'm like cold as Ice.
But oh man, I should ask you guys, is there
a future? Is this thing that I'll bust up just
in our face or what's gonna happen? Well, I think
a lot of it depends on who you get, and
really all of it depends on who you get. And Chris,
are they gonna want to play? Are they gonna want
to play with him? Though? Well, I'll be I don't
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think you're getting any of the big time free agent.
I think Anthony Davis would obviously be a train so
and he does want to play with Lebron, but you
can forget Clay, Kyrie k D and Mario. A'll say this,
I don't think he's gonna win a championship here because
I think they won't be able to get that player
that they wanted. And he's getting older, and he's getting older.
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We saw for the first time, you know, with the
injury this year, like Lebron was an iron man. So right,
that's exactly what I was thinking. I was hoping you
had some insight that would deter me. You're spot on.
You you can fill in on the show one day
with the sports take capt secret out there. Um, I
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wanted to get the boxing. You said you box. I
know you're a big boxing fan, and obviously the three
knockdown rule and so real quickly we got about a
minute left Arrow Spence. I'm sure you're probably pulled them
from Mikey Garcia, but obviously Spence was just too much
for him. Who I Spence Croft, Terence Crawford, He's sermon,
Who's the best welter way out there? Errol Spence? And
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you know, I like both guys prior to the fight.
Errol Spence. I like him as a fighter and I
like him as a person. He's a gentleman, like the
way he carries himself. And Mikey Garcia on, my god,
the balls on that kid to go up to his
way classes and so, you know, kudos to him, But
I never thought that was going to be competitive from
the get now. Errol Spence, I think is not only
the most talented welterweight out they're one of the most
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childhood fighters pound for pound. I kind of remind me
of young Marvin Hagler in the sense that he's south
paw and he's skilled, but he's he's a great finisher
when he does have you hurt. I was actually pretty
surprised that he showed Garcias so much respect, being as
small as he was. But Garcie has crafty in there too.
He's got great footwork and defensively he wouldn't let his
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hands go so he couldn't counter too much. But I
think Spence, outside of Terrence Cromford, which that's number one
on my Mount rushmore a fight I want to see,
even even over Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, I want
to see Earl Spence and Terrence Crawford. Into me, that's
a fifty fifty fight because Terrence Hawford is bad. I
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love Crawford. He's nasty with it. He fights south puppet,
he's not even a south ball. He makes adjustments great,
He's got my chiller instinct, very very smart in there.
So to me, that is a pick him fight whoever
is able to actually get their game plan and on
that night, I really couldn't tell you who's gonna win
that fight. That's so that's when we gets you so
excited Mario, one last thing before we let you go.
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You know, you're on one of my all time favorite
episodes of The Golden Girls. Chris Thinks is Chris Thinks
is just a so so show. I'm trying to tell
them it's one of the greatest sitcoms ever. It is.
It is. Tell Chris how good it goes on? Say, Mario,
that's a great show. I was on that show. You
know what's funny is ironically it was a very topical
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show for the day because I got deported. Yes, on
that show, I was like a Cuban refugee, the original
Elian Gonzalas right, yeah, and so I got deported and
they still played all the time. But that show was
like the original Sex in the City, but with little
old ladies. No doubt Rob is about to go in
the Golden Girls crew. Hey, Mario, I'm I'm on the
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waiting list. I'll be the six foot four black guy
going to the only one on the boat. All right, yeah, stuff,
And look, we'd love to get you back going. You know,
when one of these big fights is coming out something.
I love that, man, I'd love that. Any kind of fights,
any boxing, any mma on your guys, so I look
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at you. Thank you so much. All right, God bless guys.
Take care. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific. Everybody talking about Zion,
but there's a lot of people talking about somebody else,
and he is from a mid major. We just got
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off the phone with Russell Turner, coach of UC Irvine,
which upset Kansas State in the first round, and all
the mid majors, all the guys that they've ever gone
to a mid major, are pulling for this kid. John Morant, yes,
played with Zion and AU I saw that picture. Who's
the other player? There was another player one on there.
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I can't remember who the other guy was, but there
were three guys that they showed the picture of. I'm like,
how did he wind up at Murray State? You know
what I mean? I asked an NBA scout that they say, Hey,
college coaches make mistakes sometimes, and you know what, some
guys bloss that Weber State, some guys blossom later. You
know that. I mean, don't forget C. J. McCollum was
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at Lee High that could happened. Yeah, Steph Corey was
at Davidson. I mean, are you forgetting that? Right? I mean,
so how did he get there? And nobody recognized his talent,
especially for a guy who dad played in the NBA.
But then again, look at Jordan's kids. It's not automatic.
Oh no, no, I mean heck, when we were watching
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what was you see her vine? Right? They had three
guys from the NBA NBA lineage. Corn Butler's son was there,
Walt Hazard's grandson because we used to work with Jacob
his other Yeah, yeah, he's not that fox anymore. No, No,
he's working for JA. Played on teams with me on
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Jay there. But his dad, I mean his grandfather, ye
was Walt Hazard. So uh yeah. But anyway, for all
that we've heard about John morand Leonard Hamilton, the Florida
State head coach, he may have taken the cake. He
was a what you call right one'ted the Wizards coach
yes with George Jordan Jordan um and he had this
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to say, Florida State the fourth seed. They played Murray
State next, and I gotta be honest, I'm pulling from
Murray State. I want to see John morand go as
far as he can. Well you want to get more
of him? Well, yeah, to see more of him. And
so anyway, here's what Leonard Hamilton. Even though I picked
I didn't even I picked up Florida State, but I'm
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pulling from Murray State in my bracket. I picked Florida State.
Here's what Leonard Hamilton said about job moren here we
go portar Thick. He did. What I noticed is he's
one of the most exceptional players that I've had a
chance to watch play. And this is a guy that's
coached in the NBA, been around a long time. Said
he's kind of a throwback to guys who have the
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ability to score points, but he also has the passion
and the excitement about creating opportunities for his teammates. Guys
like Nate Archer ball Wow, who can lead the NBA
in scoring and lead and assist at the same time.
A guy like Magic Johnson who got so much joy
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making the game easy for his teammates. This one is
not as big, but still it was a good player.
Even a player like Muggsy Bogs who has an uncanny
way of making things easy for his teammates. So that
is some high praise because with Leonard Hamilton was also
a coach at Miami, didn't he he's comed in college
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coach at Miami coached Uh yeah Miami of Florida, I believe, right, Yeah, yeah,
he's been around an Okay, like he shouldn't have, you
said any coach in the NBA coach Michael Jordans. So
he knows that the pro game, he's been around, seen
a lot of players, uh, pretty high praise. I look,
I I've seen highlights of Jah and all that. The
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first time I really sat and watched and kind of
analyzed his game was the first game of the first
rounds in the tournament, and I was just the dude
was outstanding. Um, I mean and and he averages twenty
five points a game or twenty four point four and
ten assists, and so I thought he was probably a
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scoring obviously you see the dunks and all that. What
I was impressed by was his playmaking ability. Like he's
not a guy that gets his this. And now I
don't mean this as an insult, but like a Russell
Westbrook or Allen Iverson when they're going to the they're
mainly scores, you know, And I rest Brooks changed a
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little bit. But you know they're going to the basket
looking to score and then as they draw, you know,
draw different attention from defenders, then they'll kick it to
a teammate. This guy runs the offense like he's It
was almost like he's looking first to make plays for
his teammates. And the first game, what was he fired for? None?
From the nine times he's had seventeen points, he shot
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nine times. He shoots fifty percent from the floor, which
I love, and the eighty one percent from the line
of sufficient. He doesn't need a lot of shots. Yeah,
he looks like the truth. Now, we had Rashaan phillips On,
who's our basketball college basketball guru. He loves job, but
he didn't predict stardom in the NBA, said he'd be
really good. I want to get ahead of myself, But
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what I saw in that first game, I'm thinking, like,
this dude can be great. Do you think he get
over to with the Great Tournament? Could he overtake Zion One?
I don't think so. He's got a lot of mojo
going And you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, I
can see why a team might think that. You know,
and let's see what he does because obviously stepping up
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in competition. You know, Murray State is a mid major,
so now he's playing the big big boys, continues to
dominate like that. Um but and he's a freshman. You know,
we've seen upper classman junior seniors do this. You wouldn't
be as impressed because well, he's you should, right, but
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a freshman to step in and do it, I'm sure
he's only probably touching on his potential because he clearly
is a late bloomer to some degree. So Zion, you
almost have to take Zion. No, you would be afraid
as a GM because if you take a kid who
blossomed in Attorney and I'm not saying he didn't have
a good season, but Zion's been that guy all year
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and then you kind of flake at the end. And
you know, like there's been a lot of bad first
overall picks we just said, I mean, we could go
through the list. Anthony, who's the kid from Bennett, Yeah,
from Cleveland and Cleveland Bennett. I mean, Andrew Wiggins is good,
but he's not not what people think. People thought he
was the next it I mean, my goodness, and you
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don't even and I'm just saying you don't even hear
his name most nights. No, no, don't he And look,
he's a fine third or fourth option, but that's not
what the number one golden didn't pan out because of
the injuries. Right. I think I'm just saying, yeah, and
you mentioned who, would you just say market? Yeah, it's plenty.
I mean, so you have to be careful, but yeah,
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I think the question really is Ken Jim Moran overtake
RJ Barrett or has he already as a second pick?
It might depend on what you need. RJ Barrett swing man,
Uh doesn't shoot it incredibly well, but probably would develop that.
But we had Jeff Goodman on yesterday. He said, you know,
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RJ has kind of plays bullyball six seven, gets to
the whole, probably be a scorer. I think I like
job better than him. But you know, competition level is
a little different too. Yeah, because that does count, and
it does matter who you're playing against, who you're scoring against,
who you're going against defensively, because when you get to
the NBA, that's what we always talk about. When you
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get to the NBA, everybody's good, right, you know what
I mean? Everybody? Right? Everybody was the man, everybody was
mister basketball in this state, go go look at it.
It's unbelievable to make it to that level. There's only
four hundred jobs, right, and John Moran is a sophomore,
not a freshman. He's a sophomore. He averaged five turnovers
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this year. That's a little sloppy, but then again, you
are handling the ball. Yeah, that's it is forty minute. No,
I got it. That's a lot. But he's tough. I mean,
it's it's this is what you know. Look, remember Dwayne
Way he now he kind of can't. I don't know
if market out of nowhere is the right phrase, but
not a lot. He made his name in the tournament
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at Marquette, you know. And I remember when pat Riley
drafted him fourth or fifth, I think it was. I
think it was because it was Lebron Dark, Darco, Carmelo,
Carmelo and Bosh And I thought Riley had made a
huge mistake because I was like, you got Eddie Jones.
Why are you drafting another two guards? Right? You know,
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And so that's a that's kind of says, look, take
the best player with yeah, no, no, no, you gotta
be careful about that. I always wonder though, when you
when you say that, you know, was Portland really did
they really make a mistake when they had Clyde drexeler
And I'm just saying you had and because it wasn't
it was Boye took Elijah went second. No second, that's
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right front of Jordan, right, boy was second. And I'm
just saying from the standpoint that you already had Clyde
Drexel was a hell of a player that had a
great career, Hall of fame. Okay, that's what I'm saying.
So it wasn't like, uh, you know, should we take
an another two guards? Do you know what I'm saying?
Like it's interesting, but it's a weird thing. Nah, I
hear you, Yeah, I mean you like you say, it's
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not a good two guard we have. It's a great one.
He's a swing He played some small for it, but
he did. But it's interesting because Clyde I had him
on my podcast last year in the Zone. He told
me he wanted them to drift Jordan. He actually talked
to them about drafting Jordan because he felt they would
have been red now as good as Scottie Pippen and
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Jordan were Drexler. I think in a vacuum Drexler is
better than Pippen. Yeah, now, I just a great fit
with George, I was gonna say now. The only thing is,
I'm not sure with Clyde f the fit even though
you could have more than one guy. Obviously, yeah, yeah,
it would have been uh, but it would have been interesting.
Obviously they didn't. They took Sambuoy, he got injured and
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it was never the same. No,
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s R. You're listening to the best of the Odd
Couple with Chris Brusso and Rod Harker. Let's get to
the NCAA Tournament today. I'm I've lost track of my bracket.
That means your brackets no good. If you I'm doing
I'm I'm well over five hundred. Really, yeah, yeah, I'm
(00:41):
well over five hundred, but I've lost a few. I
did pick Buffalo, they one. I got Buffalo going to
the final four, so step I don't know I was
going today. They didn't. They won going away. How it
did it did? That was just mine. You know what,
They're tough. My thing was, every once in a while,
you're gonna put a school nobody's really talking about, and
they're pretty good. What were they they were a six seed? Yeah, yeah,
(01:02):
they were pretty good. They'd beat Syracuse earlier. And you're
never thirty one and three. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But but nobody thinks about Buffalo, is what I'm saying,
even though they had a great run. That's Alex's philosophy too.
He actually picked Saint Mary's in bell Mind. Saint Mary's
in Belle Mind. What yo? I had a chance there
for Like, that's like picking uh the Clippers against uh
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Miami right now, That's what that is. That's that's like
doing that. Remember Chris said the Clippers were gonna tank, right,
because we're gonna tank. Then I was told they weren't
tell you yes, and they were right. They went for it.
They think it's good for the brand, which it is,
to make the playoffs. And only it only had twelfth pick,
eleventh pick. It ain't like it ain't like you giving
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up a top five pick. Then I could see you
not wanting to win. But anyway, how you feeling about
the tournament so far? I saw some good games the
day I thought, Uh, where was the upset? Well, you
see Irvine of course upset Kansas State. I lost that one. Um,
but there was a game, uh somebody was Virginia was
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had their hands full with Gardner Webb in the first half.
They were actually down sick Gardener web I think you
could get a good uh sofa or love seed or
whatever another front anyway. Um, yeah, so that's Gardener Virginia
we just I mean it was. It could have been
Gardner Webb and it still would have been would have
been I'm just saying. But people all over remember I
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don't think so. Even Kauai didn't like that, but I
was laughing by Alex laughed. Remember Virginia of course lost
last year. They became the first number one seed to
a sixteen U NBC U NBC was that's University of Maryland,
Baltimore County. Is that what that is? Something like that.
I thought it was a don't shoot of NBC television.
(02:52):
I wasn't really sure what NBC you are. You are
not off to a good start. No, No, we're good.
I'm woman up to zero zero. I did other dispute
it so far I did. Oh yeah, we talked about
tom Izzo. That's been good today, that's been good than today.
(03:13):
But but let's talk before we get to Zoe, and
we'll let people. We ended the show last night with
the ISO stuff. People linking a chance to chime and
we're gonna let you chime in on that coming up.
You're gonna be able to hit us up at eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine,
six sixty three sixty nine. Very nice stereo. But yeah,
(03:33):
give what do you think he was a crossed the line?
He was overboard or that's just coaching. Yeah, we'll get
into that. But but I guess the thing tonight is
this whole zion camra as CBS trying to lure us in.
Are they gonna show us? Uh? They I guess hired
a camera and camera or the science. So are they
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gonna have a little box? I mean, and we're at
are they gonna have a little bit camp? I don't
think I think that'd be too distracting. I just think
they mean they will have every moment of so they
could go back and something goes on, they could just
go to that and you'll catch the whole dump. He's
sitting back a Capri son on the sideline. I don't
know if I like it For a college kid, it
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just you know, it just seems like it's something that
could hopefully it doesn't what It seems like a good kid.
I don't think it will distract him, but it could
distract you away. But don't They always say about you're
not supposed to get anything more than your teammates, So
this is yeah, right, that's what they say. He can't
get paid, he can't get you know, you can't get
(04:38):
a free he couldn't. Who came. You can't get a
free pizza because everybody else on the team didn't get paid.
I can't get any food. You can't get anything for free.
If somebody wanted to, like the crash, but CB asking zero,
you don't even make make one camera right sponsored by?
It might be they might get a sponsorship, right right?
You think you'll get any money? No, I just yeah,
and I wouldn't. That's I don't like that aspect of
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as you said, but I would. It's just I don't
know how I feel about it. You know, it's just
it's not his fault, certainly, but it can just all
you away from the team concept. And when I read
it was in his head, you know the team that
it pulls away from the team. Well, yeah, and the
whole idea. I'm thinking I've been watching uh NCAA attorney
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March Madness for thirty five years. I never remember them
putting the camera on one, you know what I mean.
So that and I get it. Nowadays they get all
these tangles and technology, So I'm like, why him. There
was a lot of players that could have done this
for way way before this, right, So I don't know.
It's plenty of love anyway. I mean, he gets the
(05:44):
lion's share of the credit and the coverage and all that.
Now you got to throw something else on top of it.
You know. I'm not saying it's the worst thing in
the world, but it's just I could do without it.
So we'll see, if you know, we'll see how it works.
This my buddy of former producer of mine in Detroit
name is flies Flage. He sent me a text and
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tell me, have you guys, any of you guys heard this?
He said, CBS is advertising on attorney games. He goes,
if you want sports scores without with without all the
yelling and fake debates, did you hear that? I heard
that today. I heard that the games. That's what's let's
tell let's let's keep it real. Let's really share with
(06:29):
the listeners, because you're right there, fake debates, that's what
what caught me. That's what I'm like. I was debates
I did first take at the other network, if you
did it dating back to Cole Pizza, I know, two
thousand and two thousand and five, whatever, we go way back.
We've obviously we're on Undisputed with Skipping, Shannon and the
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other shows. Never once, it's I've probably been on those
shows combined hundreds of times, question hundreds of times. Never
once have I been asked, not not told, even asked
to take side the side that you don't believe it
never won never happened. And I tell people that all
(07:13):
the time. They go, do you guys just know these
are our opinions. And sometimes like today on the Zel thing,
it's three of us, me, Skip and Shannon, and we
all agreed that we thought it was out of bounds.
So so we didn't have a dissenting voice because the
three guys all so sometimes we do do that, we
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know when we feel like we're all very passionate and
have different points of view on it and to what degree.
But we didn't make it up and go, oh, Rob,
can you take this side? Since you worked in Michigan
and you you know, you know Tomzzo take the other
or take skip? Can you never never? Because the thing
(07:56):
that makes those shows is the passion? Yes, and if
if you're faking it, then there's not gonna be any
pass People know when you're faking it and you're you know,
your heart's not in it. Let me tell you something.
If you missed the last ten minutes of our show,
you tell me that one of us were asked to
right to last night last night. Right, it's just unbridled
(08:18):
passion from guys who just happened to disagree on this topic.
And let's let's again we're throwing it out to you
eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven
nine sixty. Do you think time Isol was out of
bounds or was he just, you know, no big deal?
I honestly, Rob, I didn't think it was a big deal. Um.
(08:39):
I thought he yelled at the kid, and he yelled
at him strong, And that can can be a part
of coaches. There are coaching coaches that don't do that,
but there are plenty of coaches that do do that.
I'm not gonna try to compare myself to these guys
because I didn't play big time college basketball, but all
through junior high high school and when I played basketball
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in college at the lower level, I got yelled at
and everybody got yelled at. And it was a part
of coaching. When I first signed up to play football
in the third grade, all the older kids, yeah, you
gotta be ready to coach, going, Yeah, it's gonna be
yelling and you know, and that was just something you
expected and it's part of it, and that I'm not.
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I'm not one of those that, oh, just because I
went through it it makes it right, because there are
a lot of things I went through that I don't
think are right. But as far as coaching, I think
the line is when you're putting your hands on a kid,
you're using racial slurs, you're getting personal, you know, insulting
him something about him personally, you know, things like that.
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And I thought what is Oo did was was fine.
I thought he totally crossed the line, especially when you
run up to a kid with a bald fist, like,
did you see the anger and his I mean, I can't.
I'm not a no I saw it. I can't. It's
not about being about we're not in the court of law.
I'm talking about what I saw with my eyes. See
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somebody I mean, I'm ever somebody's angry, it's gonna look,
there's no way you should ever go alling at my kids.
And you catch it in one one moment. I watched
the video. I saw the whole thing and he had
his fist. What is a fist for? If you want
to that's not coaching, that's being a bullet thing. He
was gonna hit the kids. I don't know. I think
he wanted to. And then they sit down and sitting down,
(10:32):
they sit down in the huddle and he lunges at
him again, what is that? That ain't coaching? Show me
one video of coach k doing that garbage one just
because he doesn't do it now. And here's the other one. Coach.
I wanted to read this. I wanted to read this.
This is what I love. Jay Billis, who looks out
for the athlete. So are we gonna read everybody? No,
(10:54):
because because about you could read that's fine. I just
hate Michigan State players defended his own. I want to.
I just gave you mine. I just want to read
this because I think it's important. And that's all. Jay
Billis just said that, and I'm gonna read the whole thing.
I'm not gonna edit it. I know Tom is on
where he's coming from. He has a track record as
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a coach and it's a great one. It's about what
is said, not the volume. For a young coach coming up,
I wouldn't recommend a similar approach, like it or not.
Things have change and coaching has changed. Young coaches need
to adapt methods. That's all he wrote. So what I'm
saying is that might have worked before, it doesn't work anymore.
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People are more sophisticated and people don't just buy in
because he's an authority figure. That's how we got to
the meet too movement, where people who are authority figures
and you didn't want to go against them. People now
speak up against authority figures people when they're doing wrong.
That's why so many things went bad. That's why Bobby
Knight was allowed to turn into the mobs. Bobby Night, No,
(12:01):
that's when he turned into a monster because everybody made
an excuse for Bobby Knight. They made an excuseby night
he showed up with a with a whip. Why you
you compare. I'm just saying when they allowed, they allowed
Bobby Knight to get to that point and then like
that from day he wasn't choking out kids from day
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what's up eighteen eighty and eighty one? How hard he coached.
I'm talking about physically touching people and and and you
don't think he did that in the seventies. Okay, I
don't check your history. I will surey because I never
saw it. I'm just telling you won't be shown the
way he got fired because he finally did it to
a kid. He wasn't even on the basketball team. Every
(12:45):
sub kids said hey night, and he went into a
rage because he didn't call him coach Night or mister
Knight or whatever, and he choked the kid. That's how
he lost his job. Every little development in twenty nineteen
isn't that doesn't mean this right, just because always twenty
nineteen we do. No, some things in the past were fine.
(13:05):
Everything wasn't wrong back then. Nobody said it was. But
we've gotten smarter and better as people and we treat people. Yes,
we have gotten softer. No, that's we've got What does
that mean? We hear that? All it means ain't yelling
yell that ain't got nothing. Now you can yell out yelling. Great,
(13:26):
I saw about yell at you right, it's fine, but
this is a debate conversation. That's all right, there's a authority,
is fine. No, not when you want to kid. You
want a kid with your fill up self said it
was okay, your kids gonna say it. No, all those
kids are All those kids are brainwashing because because went
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to some one kids comes in and gives him a
scholarship and comes into the hole he was beholding to
that guy. And I'll tell you this, your problem is
offering him a scholars the kid. His kid's gonna went
to another stay already there. He knows he didn't mess
up his old career there and he he didn't have
to choose time. Once he was there, he can't go back.
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He knew that he can't do it. Oh, he didn't
know his own yeller. He didn't know his o was
gonna ball up his fish and try to sock him
in the Mazo was a yeller, I'm telling you, and
sand his own has been doing that forever and they
don't think. Nobody ever thinks it's gonna happen to them.
I stop it. I went into college know when I
was gonna get yelled at, let's stop making pants he's
out of people. That's macho Christmassa whatever, get flat foot
(14:39):
you nothing, guys washed you not the guy dropping dead
at fifty five and can't play with their kids. All
the souls all that's it, and I'm macho football League.
Oh kid, yell everybody's made a ceramic. They're getting the
cracked snow flakes there May seven, seven ninety nine on
(15:00):
stool You yell at him, They're gonna fall apart. Be
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We're excited to bring in our next guest. You hear
the music behind us. This is how he became famous,
(15:24):
Saved by the Bell. But now he has his own
radio show on iHeartRadio. It's called On with Mario Lopez.
He has two podcasts, well, one podcast, The Three Not
Down Rule, and then he's also the co co host
on an Extra and he has another podcast, This Guy's
Busy Man. Listen to Mario. That's the other podcast, none
(15:46):
other then Mario Lopez. Mario, Mario, thank you for having
me gentlemen, I appreciate it, glad we're playing with connected
definitely when you heard us playing the music save by
the Bell. And I don't know if you like or
don't like looking back at those days, but I think
one thing that's great for you. A lot of people
that are in these great child stars or even adults,
(16:10):
they can't move out of that role. Like we were
talking earlier about the Fonds on Happy Days and he
had trouble moving out of role. Batman, Adam, you've obviously
been able to do that. Was that hard for you
to do or were there challenges in your way as
far as moving out of the say By the Bell character. Well,
(16:31):
there's always challenges when you're making a transition as a
child actor into the adult world, especially when you were
on a popular kid show and you get stereotype for
your character. But I feel very blessed for that opportunity.
I can't believe it's still on thirty some one years
(16:52):
years later and in one hundred and eighty three countries,
So I just kind of blows me away for like
this little Saturday morning show that resonated with so many people.
You know, it trips me out, but I feel very
fortunate that I was able to stay as busy as
I have and do many do as many different things
I'm able to be doing, from you know, Broadway and
(17:15):
written a few books to being a New York Times
bestselling author and hosting like five different shows, and you know,
very very fortunate. And I think blessed with a great
family and support system. And I always had a strong
work ethic. So you know, Mom put me out of singing, dancing, acting,
playing sports, doing everything growing up, and I think that
helped as far as multitasking and not necessarily just seeing
(17:38):
myself in a certain way. I always wanted to be
as diverse as possible. So, you know, sport out so far,
so good. Haven't had to get a real job. As
my dad would say, that's right. And you know, speaking
of sports, that's what we met. We met in the
suite at a Dodgers World Series game. So the seasons
about to start next week, next Thursday, and of course
the Dodgers went to back to back World Series. You
(18:00):
think they can make it a third year in a row,
and what's the possibility of finally winning it for the
first time in thirty two years. You know, I took myself.
I was so honored to be able to be in
a former Boys Club member, be out there and represent
the Boys and Girls Club of America for the first
home game in both of those series, and got to
(18:20):
take my son on the field with me. And he
looks at me after every series is over because I
take me. He's like, it's all right, Dad, we didn't win.
We'll just come back next year. And I'm like, it
doesn't work like that. He's only he's only five, and
he just thinks the Dodgers are gonna be in the
World Series every year, and I'm like, nah, no, I
mean it'd be awesome, but hey, listen, we've been so
(18:42):
spoiled out here and add they've been pretty Uh. The
one that really just breaks my heart is Houston. Huge
stin up breaks my heart. Boston. You gotta give it
up to him. They all around, I think we're just
a better team talked to bottom, but Houston, I feel
like we we blew that one, to be quite honest.
(19:02):
So it's frustrating, but hey, I'm always down with the Dodgers,
win or lose. And that's probably my favorite team sports
to attend in person. To tell the true nothing better
than a baseball game on a beautiful night. Mario, you
said you grew up playing sports. What was your favorite
sport and what kind of athlete were you. I grew
up wrestling and boxing because I was ung And like
(19:28):
I said, I could only focus on the individual sports
because team sports you had to be there right right right.
They don't let you slide with that. But when you're wrestling,
all you gotta do is beat out the guy in
your weight class. So, and I've always been fond of
individual sports anyway, just because, just like life, there's no
one to rely on but yourself, and I don't want
(19:50):
to have to worry about someone else for my success.
And if I lose, I wanted to be because of me,
and if I win, I want all the glory. So
I want I've always been parcel to individual sports, and
I just think it's a takes a certain kind of
man to uh participating in them. So I've got my son,
(20:11):
You've got two kids, one on the way, and I
got congratulations, thank you. So he's wrestling, he's doing jiu jitsu,
he's he's doing gymnastics. All individual sports. Wow. So I
just think it kind of at the very least. I
like what it teaches a lot of self confidence. I
can still go a lot of discipline, not to mention
(20:33):
self defense, and those are all astributes that I think
will help them contribute and just light. It's the eye couple.
We're joined on celebrity Corner by Mario Lopez. Mario, what
about football? Chargers fan or Rams which fan? I'm a
Chargers fan, man. You know, originally I was born in
(20:54):
uh San Diego. For two of us, I'm a Bordertown kid.
I'm okay for first generation right here, so you know
my turns immigrated from Mexico. So I grew up a
Chargers fan. But I've been coming to LA since I
was ten years old and essentially really you know and Angelina.
But nevertheless, always like the Chargers. Um, so I'm Chargers, Dodgers,
Lakers all day, Lakers. Not a good not a good season,
(21:16):
first year where you're shocked by this and I'm making
a play. A lot of people thought when Lebron came
that it was gonna be back to the glory days. Well,
I'm always the eternal optimist, so I was hoping that
was the case. And then I quickly realized that We've
been a hoodwink and la as cold as Ice. True
because the game was I out there were talking there,
(21:38):
they were chanting, we want Kobe. I'm like cold as Ice.
But oh man, I should ask you guys, is there
a future? Is this thing that I'll bust up just
in our face or what's gonna happen? Well, I think
a lot of it depends on who you get, and
really all of it depends on who you get. And Chris,
are they gonna want to play? Are they gonna want
to play with him? Though? Well, I'll be I don't
(22:00):
think you're getting any of the big time free agent.
I think Anthony Davis would obviously be a train so
and he does want to play with Lebron, but you
can forget Clay, Kyrie k D and Mario. A'll say this,
I don't think he's gonna win a championship here because
I think they won't be able to get that player
that they wanted. And he's getting older, and he's getting older.
(22:21):
We saw for the first time, you know, with the
injury this year, like Lebron was an iron man. So right,
that's exactly what I was thinking. I was hoping you
had some insight that would deter me. You're spot on.
You you can fill in on the show one day
with the sports take capt secret out there. Um, I
(22:41):
wanted to get the boxing. You said you box. I
know you're a big boxing fan, and obviously the three
knockdown rule and so real quickly we got about a
minute left Arrow Spence. I'm sure you're probably pulled them
from Mikey Garcia, but obviously Spence was just too much
for him. Who I Spence Croft, Terence Crawford, He's sermon,
Who's the best welter way out there? Errol Spence? And
(23:04):
you know, I like both guys prior to the fight.
Errol Spence. I like him as a fighter and I
like him as a person. He's a gentleman, like the
way he carries himself. And Mikey Garcia on, my god,
the balls on that kid to go up to his
way classes and so, you know, kudos to him, But
I never thought that was going to be competitive from
the get now. Errol Spence, I think is not only
the most talented welterweight out they're one of the most
(23:24):
childhood fighters pound for pound. I kind of remind me
of young Marvin Hagler in the sense that he's south
paw and he's skilled, but he's he's a great finisher
when he does have you hurt. I was actually pretty
surprised that he showed Garcias so much respect, being as
small as he was. But Garcie has crafty in there too.
He's got great footwork and defensively he wouldn't let his
(23:45):
hands go so he couldn't counter too much. But I
think Spence, outside of Terrence Cromford, which that's number one
on my Mount rushmore a fight I want to see,
even even over Anthony Joshua and Deontay Wilder, I want
to see Earl Spence and Terrence Crawford. Into me, that's
a fifty fifty fight because Terrence Hawford is bad. I
(24:06):
love Crawford. He's nasty with it. He fights south puppet,
he's not even a south ball. He makes adjustments great,
He's got my chiller instinct, very very smart in there.
So to me, that is a pick him fight whoever
is able to actually get their game plan and on
that night, I really couldn't tell you who's gonna win
that fight. That's so that's when we gets you so
excited Mario, one last thing before we let you go.
(24:28):
You know, you're on one of my all time favorite
episodes of The Golden Girls. Chris Thinks is Chris Thinks
is just a so so show. I'm trying to tell
them it's one of the greatest sitcoms ever. It is.
It is. Tell Chris how good it goes on? Say, Mario,
that's a great show. I was on that show. You
know what's funny is ironically it was a very topical
(24:49):
show for the day because I got deported. Yes, on
that show, I was like a Cuban refugee, the original
Elian Gonzalas right, yeah, and so I got deported and
they still played all the time. But that show was
like the original Sex in the City, but with little
old ladies. No doubt Rob is about to go in
the Golden Girls crew. Hey, Mario, I'm I'm on the
(25:09):
waiting list. I'll be the six foot four black guy
going to the only one on the boat. All right, yeah, stuff,
And look, we'd love to get you back going. You know,
when one of these big fights is coming out something.
I love that, man, I'd love that. Any kind of fights,
any boxing, any mma on your guys, so I look
(25:31):
at you. Thank you so much. All right, God bless guys.
Take care. Be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Chris Broussard and Rob Parker weekdays at
seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific. Everybody talking about Zion,
but there's a lot of people talking about somebody else,
and he is from a mid major. We just got
(25:53):
off the phone with Russell Turner, coach of UC Irvine,
which upset Kansas State in the first round, and all
the mid majors, all the guys that they've ever gone
to a mid major, are pulling for this kid. John Morant, yes,
played with Zion and AU I saw that picture. Who's
the other player? There was another player one on there.
(26:14):
I can't remember who the other guy was, but there
were three guys that they showed the picture of. I'm like,
how did he wind up at Murray State? You know
what I mean? I asked an NBA scout that they say, Hey,
college coaches make mistakes sometimes, and you know what, some
guys bloss that Weber State, some guys blossom later. You
know that. I mean, don't forget C. J. McCollum was
(26:35):
at Lee High that could happened. Yeah, Steph Corey was
at Davidson. I mean, are you forgetting that? Right? I mean,
so how did he get there? And nobody recognized his talent,
especially for a guy who dad played in the NBA.
But then again, look at Jordan's kids. It's not automatic.
Oh no, no, I mean heck, when we were watching
(26:56):
what was you see her vine? Right? They had three
guys from the NBA NBA lineage. Corn Butler's son was there,
Walt Hazard's grandson because we used to work with Jacob
his other Yeah, yeah, he's not that fox anymore. No, No,
he's working for JA. Played on teams with me on
(27:18):
Jay there. But his dad, I mean his grandfather, ye
was Walt Hazard. So uh yeah. But anyway, for all
that we've heard about John morand Leonard Hamilton, the Florida
State head coach, he may have taken the cake. He
was a what you call right one'ted the Wizards coach
yes with George Jordan Jordan um and he had this
(27:42):
to say, Florida State the fourth seed. They played Murray
State next, and I gotta be honest, I'm pulling from
Murray State. I want to see John morand go as
far as he can. Well you want to get more
of him? Well, yeah, to see more of him. And
so anyway, here's what Leonard Hamilton. Even though I picked
I didn't even I picked up Florida State, but I'm
(28:02):
pulling from Murray State in my bracket. I picked Florida State.
Here's what Leonard Hamilton said about job moren here we
go portar Thick. He did. What I noticed is he's
one of the most exceptional players that I've had a
chance to watch play. And this is a guy that's
coached in the NBA, been around a long time. Said
he's kind of a throwback to guys who have the
(28:24):
ability to score points, but he also has the passion
and the excitement about creating opportunities for his teammates. Guys
like Nate Archer ball Wow, who can lead the NBA
in scoring and lead and assist at the same time.
A guy like Magic Johnson who got so much joy
(28:44):
making the game easy for his teammates. This one is
not as big, but still it was a good player.
Even a player like Muggsy Bogs who has an uncanny
way of making things easy for his teammates. So that
is some high praise because with Leonard Hamilton was also
a coach at Miami, didn't he he's comed in college
(29:05):
coach at Miami coached Uh yeah Miami of Florida, I believe, right, Yeah, yeah,
he's been around an Okay, like he shouldn't have, you
said any coach in the NBA coach Michael Jordans. So
he knows that the pro game, he's been around, seen
a lot of players, uh, pretty high praise. I look,
I I've seen highlights of Jah and all that. The
(29:28):
first time I really sat and watched and kind of
analyzed his game was the first game of the first
rounds in the tournament, and I was just the dude
was outstanding. Um, I mean and and he averages twenty
five points a game or twenty four point four and
ten assists, and so I thought he was probably a
(29:50):
scoring obviously you see the dunks and all that. What
I was impressed by was his playmaking ability. Like he's
not a guy that gets his this. And now I
don't mean this as an insult, but like a Russell
Westbrook or Allen Iverson when they're going to the they're
mainly scores, you know, And I rest Brooks changed a
(30:10):
little bit. But you know they're going to the basket
looking to score and then as they draw, you know,
draw different attention from defenders, then they'll kick it to
a teammate. This guy runs the offense like he's It
was almost like he's looking first to make plays for
his teammates. And the first game, what was he fired for? None?
From the nine times he's had seventeen points, he shot
(30:32):
nine times. He shoots fifty percent from the floor, which
I love, and the eighty one percent from the line
of sufficient. He doesn't need a lot of shots. Yeah,
he looks like the truth. Now, we had Rashaan phillips On,
who's our basketball college basketball guru. He loves job, but
he didn't predict stardom in the NBA, said he'd be
really good. I want to get ahead of myself, But
(30:54):
what I saw in that first game, I'm thinking, like,
this dude can be great. Do you think he get
over to with the Great Tournament? Could he overtake Zion One?
I don't think so. He's got a lot of mojo
going And you know what I mean, yeah, yeah, I
can see why a team might think that. You know,
and let's see what he does because obviously stepping up
(31:16):
in competition. You know, Murray State is a mid major,
so now he's playing the big big boys, continues to
dominate like that. Um but and he's a freshman. You know,
we've seen upper classman junior seniors do this. You wouldn't
be as impressed because well, he's you should, right, but
(31:37):
a freshman to step in and do it, I'm sure
he's only probably touching on his potential because he clearly
is a late bloomer to some degree. So Zion, you
almost have to take Zion. No, you would be afraid
as a GM because if you take a kid who
blossomed in Attorney and I'm not saying he didn't have
a good season, but Zion's been that guy all year
(32:01):
and then you kind of flake at the end. And
you know, like there's been a lot of bad first
overall picks we just said, I mean, we could go
through the list. Anthony, who's the kid from Bennett, Yeah,
from Cleveland and Cleveland Bennett. I mean, Andrew Wiggins is good,
but he's not not what people think. People thought he
was the next it I mean, my goodness, and you
(32:23):
don't even and I'm just saying you don't even hear
his name most nights. No, no, don't he And look,
he's a fine third or fourth option, but that's not
what the number one golden didn't pan out because of
the injuries. Right. I think I'm just saying, yeah, and
you mentioned who, would you just say market? Yeah, it's plenty.
I mean, so you have to be careful, but yeah,
(32:45):
I think the question really is Ken Jim Moran overtake
RJ Barrett or has he already as a second pick?
It might depend on what you need. RJ Barrett swing man,
Uh doesn't shoot it incredibly well, but probably would develop that.
But we had Jeff Goodman on yesterday. He said, you know,
(33:05):
RJ has kind of plays bullyball six seven, gets to
the whole, probably be a scorer. I think I like
job better than him. But you know, competition level is
a little different too. Yeah, because that does count, and
it does matter who you're playing against, who you're scoring against,
who you're going against defensively, because when you get to
the NBA, that's what we always talk about. When you
(33:26):
get to the NBA, everybody's good, right, you know what
I mean? Everybody? Right? Everybody was the man, everybody was
mister basketball in this state, go go look at it.
It's unbelievable to make it to that level. There's only
four hundred jobs, right, and John Moran is a sophomore,
not a freshman. He's a sophomore. He averaged five turnovers
(33:48):
this year. That's a little sloppy, but then again, you
are handling the ball. Yeah, that's it is forty minute. No,
I got it. That's a lot. But he's tough. I mean,
it's it's this is what you know. Look, remember Dwayne
Way he now he kind of can't. I don't know
if market out of nowhere is the right phrase, but
not a lot. He made his name in the tournament
(34:09):
at Marquette, you know. And I remember when pat Riley
drafted him fourth or fifth, I think it was. I
think it was because it was Lebron Dark, Darco, Carmelo,
Carmelo and Bosh And I thought Riley had made a
huge mistake because I was like, you got Eddie Jones.
Why are you drafting another two guards? Right? You know,
(34:29):
And so that's a that's kind of says, look, take
the best player with yeah, no, no, no, you gotta
be careful about that. I always wonder though, when you
when you say that, you know, was Portland really did
they really make a mistake when they had Clyde drexeler
And I'm just saying you had and because it wasn't
it was Boye took Elijah went second. No second, that's
(34:54):
right front of Jordan, right, boy was second. And I'm
just saying from the standpoint that you already had Clyde
Drexel was a hell of a player that had a
great career, Hall of fame. Okay, that's what I'm saying.
So it wasn't like, uh, you know, should we take
an another two guards? Do you know what I'm saying?
Like it's interesting, but it's a weird thing. Nah, I
hear you, Yeah, I mean you like you say, it's
(35:14):
not a good two guard we have. It's a great one.
He's a swing He played some small for it, but
he did. But it's interesting because Clyde I had him
on my podcast last year in the Zone. He told
me he wanted them to drift Jordan. He actually talked
to them about drafting Jordan because he felt they would
have been red now as good as Scottie Pippen and
(35:35):
Jordan were Drexler. I think in a vacuum Drexler is
better than Pippen. Yeah, now, I just a great fit
with George, I was gonna say now. The only thing is,
I'm not sure with Clyde f the fit even though
you could have more than one guy. Obviously, yeah, yeah,
it would have been uh, but it would have been interesting.
Obviously they didn't. They took Sambuoy, he got injured and
(35:55):
it was never the same. No,
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