January 4, 2025 • 28 mins
Rob and Kelvin share their thoughts on Cam Ward’s refusal to play in the second half of the Pop-Tarts Bowl and whether or not that could impact his NFL Draft stock,debate whether the Philadelphia Eagles did the right thing by benching Saquon Barkley in Week 18 and denying him of a chance to break the NFL’s single-season rushing record and argue whether Amon-Ra St.Brown is calling for a playoff format overhaul is his way of preparing for a Detroit Lions loss to the Minnesota Vikings in Week 18.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Rob G can you tell us what happened with please?
At nine to eight?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
When he didn't answer Besides getting Rob Parker's panties in
the bunch, cam Ward really upset a lot of people
in the college football world. Baw, it was ridiculous. I
saw everything he decided. Now here's the thing, here's the backstory.
His head coach, Mario Christovo made a big point over
the weekend and say, hey, our guy is playing in
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the bowl game and he deserves to be commended because
a lot of people in NIL in this era of
football would sit this kind of game out, and our
guy's different and rightfully he is playing in the.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Pop Tarts Bowl. That sounds like a joke.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So cam Ward came out in the first half and
lit the world on fire, threw a couple of touchdown passes,
became the NCAA all time leader in career touchdown passes
in the first half, and then just decided he wasn't
going to play the second half. And because he did that,
couple with the fact that Gristobol after the game was
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basically giving the no comment as to why his guy
didn't finish the game out when they had a chance
to win it in the fourth quarter. They're only down
by one and if you gotta imagine, if they had
cam Ward, they would have won that game.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
He didn't play.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
But again, him deciding to play the first half not
play the second half rough with a lot of feathers
in the college football world.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Rock Party's fun. Did you see that passed outfield? Okay,
that's not fun. That's not fun. No, I don't have.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
An issue with cam Ward at all. He didn't even
have to play at all. He played the first half.
They kind of knew what was the situation is. And
that's not going to change that football that college football
teams uh anything by him not playing in the second half.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And this guy is going to be a.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Top pick and his whole career, and people need to
stop the biggest fallacy going is that everybody who plays
college football is making millions of dollars with n I
l It's not true. There's a handful of people I'm asking.
We could say, can you name all the TV national
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TV spots?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know you've seen whatever I mean.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Juju Watkins has one, and and.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Caleb Williams had a few two years ago after coming
off the Heisman.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But where are the other people? I don't know where
they are.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I don't see him, And that's what I'm trying to say.
So what are you saying. I guess I'm saying him
what's the money part have to do with him playing.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The idea that he already committed to playing like the half,
which was putting his potential NFL career in jeopardy. Whether
people want to acknowledge or not that he could get hurt,
you can get hurt, you can lose millions of dollars.
But to put hisself out there for longer than he
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needs to. I have no issue with that. The coach obviously,
they talked about it. They all came to an agreement.
So it ain't like, oh my God and the end
of the world, Oh that they gotta win the pop
Tars Bowl for what that ain't. If this was for
the college football playoffs and the national champion, he would play.
Anybody worth the assault would play in that game.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I just I don't have a massive problem with it,
but I would have preferred him to finish it just
because he started it, you know what I mean. Mean
if you say, look, if you're gonna play, if he wasn't,
we get it. You're top side.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But you're okay with say Kwan Barkley starting it but
not finishing the game. You said you're okay with Saquon
starting and if he doesn't, he doesn't have to finish.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Again, why doesn't he have to play.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
The entire Because I'm answered that because for Cam, this
is it, like this is your last Gamequon, try to
get it first half. We're going on to the playoffs,
hopefully in a perfect world for them, they're going to
the super Bowl. This is Cam's last game, So this
is your last game. You didn't have to play. I
agree with that. If he's just saying, man, I'm a
top five pick, I choose not to. That's his choice.
Just like I said, I respect Travis and shading them
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saying they want to play. They want to finish the
job with their team. So that was my point is
if he chose to play, and he looked this coach,
you want to play, then I'm like, all right, cool,
just play. Finish the game. This is your last game.
Go out with your boys. You came in and you
want to finish with him. That was what I would
have preferred.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I think way that they were like, well, just
going in the last draw, no I didn't play the second.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well that made now that I agree, that makes it
weird at that point to like you're.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Gonna pick a spot to go back in there.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
That's the worst statement to me than just saying I'm
not gonna play. Hey, guys, look i'm gonna play. I
want to, you know, play with you guys. First half
that the die, but I'm not playing the second. I'm
gonna let you guys rock out. Then to come back
in when it's convenient be like, oh wait, let me
go win it, And that would be weird. That would
be in there. So maybe to the quarterback who would
have been in the team because the yo, you weren't
good enough to play the first four team other you
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got to just come back when it's convenient to make,
you know, making a great play for you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I won a game for you, So I don't agree
with that.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
But that's why I prefer him to start it and
play it or just say yo, I was with y'all,
we had a good run. I'm going to the league.
I would prefer him to either just do that or
play the game. Just play the game. Either way, I'm
okay with it because I get why guys don't. It
ain't the college football playoff. I might get hurt. I'm
a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I get it. But I would prefer you to play
given the insurance money. It ain't.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
It ain't the same as what you would make if
you're a top pick being decapitated to like not still
get when you're this good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
What you have to be, But you're not getting it's
not up.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You don't have an insurance policy for one hundred and
sixty million.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I'm saying what I'm sayings like cam Ward fractures his leg,
he's still being a top ten pick. But but you
know what I'm saying, like, I'm not when you're that good,
it's the middling guys. If you're a third round picks, a.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Kid who's a kid rob G who got caught with
the on Twitter with the gas and it costs him
money in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Is different than but I'm thinking you're a you know,
it might be a bad kid because you got a
freaking gas mask.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Full of weed on, you know. But I'm just so
the man. But Batman would we they.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Cost him money, is all I'm saying. And you don't
know if if depending on how bad.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The injury is. No, I'm not saying he might go from.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
If your foot is detached or it needs pins, you
know what I mean, or or it's some injury like
that that changes your whole like.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
We don't know just when you're that good as good
as he is Heisman candidate and in this good like
he'll be. But I get the idea for That's so
I said, I'm not mad if he didn't play. I'm
not mad at that. Oh don't you play? Just go
ahead and finish it is how I feel.
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Speaker 5 (07:18):
Say Kwan, I wasn't here yesterday, so once the whole
announcement that he wasn't gonna play came out. I know
you guys had a spirited debate, spirited conversation. However, we
also find out Rob that he says, Man, I ain't
gonna lie. Your boy wanted to play.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Ask me if I wanted to play.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
If I want to go for it, I said on Sunday,
I probably didn't care too much for it. When I
slept on it, I was like, the opportunity to implant
my you know, my name in football history. May never
get another opportunity like that again. So I'm down. But
at the end of the day, I don't care for
putting in the team at risk. He's a head coach
for a reason. He makes the decisions, and whatever decision
he wanted to make, I let him know if you
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want me to play, I'm gonna go out there and
make sure I get it. And if we don't, I'm
okay with that too.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Man.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Listen, I said it before, I'll say it again. I
totally get the you. And if he gets injured, I
understand that's a returial thing. Football is inherently dangerous, without
a doubt, But to me, when you have a chance
to do something special, a thing that I think sometimes
we forget. It's also one of the things what makes
sports special. We see things we never thought we'd see before.
We see records broken, we see Klay Thompson hit all
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these threes in the game. We see people throw for
Peyton Manning fifty touchdowns when he did it, tell me
the last.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Big record breaking thing you saw, can you give it
to me?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yes, shoe hail Tani fifty stolen bases. And I loved
it and it was great. And we sat up here
and argued about it for a day, a couple of days,
and he guess what he did.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He want a World Series to add to boot.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And in that case, there was no question about him
playing because he didn't worried about getting injured.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was just the.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Course of the season, correct, the games mattered, he was
playing the season. It was nothing that would impede him
with question whether or not he should play.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Correct, right, I mean, but that's the point.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
The point is he went to get a record, and
I mean he he happened to get a record, and
if it was a.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Last to get I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
If they were the last game of the season one
sixty two and he was at forty nine. You don't
think Shoe hal Tani is busting his butt for four
or five opportunities to get this stolen base man. That
man would have been looking like the return of Ricky Henderson.
And so my point is, I like this. Sakwan came
out and said, look, man, I thought about it. Look,
I really would love to do something special.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I understand the inherent risk of danger that's football ever
since you're in pee wee league. But if you got
a chance to get this record, not only for him,
his offensive line, for the team, and then you go
up mess around to win the Super Bowl, that only
adds to it. What an even more remarkable season this was.
So I understand the decision. I think that's the uh
more cliche decision if you will for people. But I
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love the fact that he came out said I want
I just love the fact that his dad wanted it
for him. It's something to do something we hadn't seen
the in forty years. Why not go for it? And again,
now I'm not saying play forty five rushing attempts, you're
gonna go out of our way, but if you give
him hey Man, offensive line, it's on y'all, say Kwan's
on you giving you one half, get or done, and
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then we're gonna move on. I think that would have
been an awesome thing, would add some fun to the to
the for the whole fan base, for the team. And again,
if you mess around and win a super Bowl, you're
only adding to what made it even more of a
special season. Uh so, I but I get to again,
I get what they're doing, but only that makes a
weird real.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Quick last wear, what side do you want? I'm easy.
I've been saying it the whole time. Are you going
for it?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
You? But you keep saying because that's the logical thing
for the Oh, we're not gonna go for it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I say, you go for it? Something special? Why not?
He's gonna get it.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's easy for him to get because and to add
to it, it's against the Giants.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I like a little petty against my division rival.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Let me go ahead of there and rub it in
their face that y'all let him go and Daniel Jones
is gone. Say Kwan's gone, he's balling. You're three and thirteen.
We're thirteen and three, and he just got the Russian
record on y'all. I've been saying go for it, and
I would have thought this was something that would be
something fun for that team, that city, that organization, and
again and now you go try to chase the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's the ultimate selfish move.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And that's why because you're looking at it in a
vacuum like it's just say Kuon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's not just say Kuon Barkley. It's all of his.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Other offensive linemen to know that have to play that
also could wind up getting hurt. Not just say Kuon
What if you lose an offensive lineman or two trying
to get a meaningless a mean and a record in
a meaningless game.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's what you have to look at. It's not individual.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
If this was basketball and there was one guy, fine,
Football doesn't work like that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
The reason that he's in.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This position is because other people have to do their job.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Here's the day, want the reward.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Here's a chance to let these guys rest, to get ready,
be healthy to make a run to win the super Bowl.
If this was about one person, it would be different.
Even Josh Allen, all right, now there's a question, Oh
you know what Josh, you should play the whole game.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Go put up these numbers. We don't care if you
get hurt. Go.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, Josh Allen isn't even playing, even though he could
wind up losing his MVP on the last day.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes or no, he.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Could, he could, of course, but why not have Josh
Allen play so he could solidify.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Because the MVP will be awesome, But it's also not
a record. Every year we get one of those.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
No, he doesn't have any MVPs though every year chance
with the record that has for forty years, and a chance,
and there's no guarantee that he's gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
No, it's not absolutely And here's a chance that the
giant could say, dude, we'll take care.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Oh yeah, really, one can't coon. The giants already can't coon.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But but the other the thing that people never look
at is it's not individual you.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Can That's why I'm point getting rid of the lineman would
love this. Anyone OJ got it. Aaron Dierson insident, that
is also a sign of what you did.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
He can't get it without.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The line the offensive lineman who helped Eric Dickerson get
the record.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Not you? I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I can't tell you eight percent of offensive exactly, what
does that matter?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That doesn't mean absolutely mean something. That's it. They don't
know naming it offensive line. I can't name it offensive lineman.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Patrick, do you know that the offensive Hey, aren't you
built for the offensive lineman?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
That helped say why would it matter to the record?
Why would it matter to a crowd? It matters to them,
the offensive lineman. That's who it matters. What I'm saying
themselves saying to you, what's more important? Trying to win
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
We want that. Why didn't we have Bollier this year?
Didn't we have to set a record against the Giants?
And he punted on that. So he punted on that.
Why would you punt on that? That was another record?
He could have had the most yards in a game.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
But what makes it interesting is Davante Adams, I mean Smith,
he went. They let him get a record last year.
They let him get nine hundred and something yards to
beat the Shawn Jackson in the end of the season.
They let him do that. So make that make sense.
We're trying to break a random to Shawn Jackson award.
Who ain't no Hall of Famer who has there's no
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real notoriety with that.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Dude. Last year, didn't they not make the playoffs last year? Yeah?
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
So, I'm saying, if you have guys out there in
a meaningless game you're trying to super say, you got
guys out here who could get hurt and you need
a guy. No, but if they didn't make the playoffs,
the Vontae Smith going for a record that means nothing,
him going for a record that hasn't and broken in
forty years.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
No, and you can win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I can show hey, Toddy, this thing fifty fifty World
Series ring only adds to this.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You have a good enough team to make a run. Yes,
you don't want buye. You don't have a buy to
rest people up. You play the next week. You got
your guys a half, go get this record. No, you
don't go get this record.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's a big.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Difference not to not to not to play at all
and give your body.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
He's trying to he's trying to be company that he
wants it way more than he just trying to be.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
He ain't trying to be to say that he said
that he wanted it now.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yes, and I'm saying, he really wants it, but I
get it. He's like going for the bigger good, which
again that is the obvious answer.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh what if you get hurt? What if he's not?
Speaker 8 (15:46):
It's not just him though, Can you stop saying and
if he gets hurt? I'm saying, audif you lose an
offensive lineman, one or two starting offensive lineman, because you
you're going after a record in a game, that doesn't
matter if the.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Game anything is always extreme with you.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
No, I'm being realistically. You know I'm being realistic from
the standpoint. You always have to look at it. You
can always want to possible situations. Aaron Rodgers got hurt
with four snaps, right, they didn't have a Rogers If
you lose him for the season and four snaps hurt
anytime the de have a backup quarterback ready to go,
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That's my point I'm saying, But you got hurt in
four plays, you can get hurt anytime.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So I just think it's a cool opportunity. It's a rarity.
It happens. You got something that's great for a guy
who has been busting his butt for an offensive line
who has been this strong part of your season, uh
you know, and and allows you to get close to
this record and just go for it. That's just my thing.
I'm not saying you rush him forty five fifty time
till we get it.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Not why not if you if you're going for the record,
if it means something to him, why not, because it
doesn't make saying he won't.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Have to Why because he hasn't had to do that
all seasons.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Say he's struggling in this game and he has thirty
five carriage and he doesn't have the record. You want
to stop, then we gave it a crack. No, it's
means something. You just said it, right, I'm saying it.
So if you try to do anything to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Because I know my team won't have to do that
against the lowly Giants, that's not the issue.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So we're going to get it in the first half.
The dude is averaging.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Why not let him play the whole game and get
it if it means something to him.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm not gonna rush him fifty times because if I
if I have to do that, then maybe the game
is competitive made the Giants are lay in the wood.
If you will, I'm saying We're gonna go out there
with the game plan. Yo, you got two quarters, baby,
get it done. Lineman, let's go get this day. So
he plays two quarters and he's eight yard short, that's,
of course we're going to get it eight yards eight yards.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So that's not two quarters.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
What I'm saying, We're not going to go out of
our way if it's not two quarters in one run. Okay,
there you have it, two quarters in one run. Go
get it man, some live a little get in the record.
Fox add to an amazing season.
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Speaker 1 (18:13):
Get us up to date on these crying Lions worried
about changing the NFL.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
New Man, new Year knew me. I'm not even about
to jump over this table. I'm just saying new Year
knew me.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well to your point, everybody who listens to the couple
knows this. But Sunday Night, Lions and the Vikings for
all the marbles in the NFC. The winner will win
the NFC North will be the top seed in the
NFC playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Can you tell Kelvin please, and we'll get a first round.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
By what happens if the Lions lose the game, the
loser of that game will drop down to the fifth seed,
will play in the wildcard round.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But not only that, they gotta play on the road.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Oh wait, Rob g, Rob G in the words remember
one we said sor ain't gonna be no problem. Ain't
gonna be no problem. Let me ask you and guess
Lions or we do you know the record this year
on the road?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Undefeated? Undefeated? Okay, ain't gonna be no problem. Ain't gonna
be no problem? And guess where I'll be Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'm coming over if the Lions lose, now will be
I will be in the parking lot in my call,
waiting for Monday show. I just want you to know
I'm not coming it on Monday, Rob, Do you know that.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's gonna be like first day of school? So excited?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I'll be in the Yes, Christmas finished the challenges you
right over to the parking shoot.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Right after the the fastest NBC.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know the fact that this game has so much
writing on it has not been lost on anybody, including
Lions wide receiver I'm Monross Saint Brown. He has a
problem with the way the loser is being penalized in
such a way.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Take a listen. That's the craziest I'm thinking about now.
It's one of the crazies rules. Ever, the NFL needs
to change into division winners obviously make the playoffs after that,
best record from seeding. That's how seat is gonna work.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Best record, top four teams get you know, one through
four season, all the way down.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
What why is he even entertaining that win the game?
You don't have to worry about all of that. I
just hate the idea because this is an anomaly. You
know that this doesn't happen rob at this It's happened
one other time in the NFL. Okay, So here's my
point is it doesn't happen that often. And you want
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to make the divisions worth something, right, winning the division
otherwise what would be the point? Then then you're gonna
get rid of all the divisions. That's why you make
it worthwhile. So the NFL is not gonna change anything
because one year the Vikings and Lions happened to each
go fourteen and two.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think the only thing that would make it considerate
is we've had the opposite. We've had teams that were
just back when it was sixteen games, but you know
seven and nine when they're division. Cam Newton did that
a couple of times where he won the division, like
three years in a row. Two of the three wasn't
even above five hundred and so that kind of I
can see them saying, if you know, the rules committee
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say that is kind of question that, but I'm gonna
not reward the Vikings or the Lions in this case
and give the you know, if it were the Panthers
of the you know, say this year, the seven to
nine Panthers they get to get a bye, I can
see them saying, we want to line it up where
we're trying. I wouldn't want the Vikings or the Lions
to lose to that. Like I want to get the
Vikings or the Lions in the later rounds against the Eagles,
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Like I could see them one and again that's the
best teams, you know later in the in the conference.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Uh. We saw two years ago in baseball that the
best teams got the bods and they all long. But
you know, baseball is weird sport with automatic that because especial.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Because it's a one and done football, right, But I
think that that's the only reason why I'm saying I
could see them considering is like, well, now that we
have this, it still only happened twice, That's what I'm saying.
But now that we have that, you're not hardly ever
again twice. Where you're gonna have a team that be
fourteen and three be a five seed. That is absolutely
crazy to think about. But I think the larger conversation
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is more so because it just happened the only second
time in history that it makes you go, oh, well,
I never even thought about that because it never happens.
But now that I'm thinking about it, that is kind
of crazy that Lions or Vikings would have to do
all this going the road and you can have a
terrible you know, the Falcons or the Bucks who didn't
have some great season.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Now they get fourteen and three, it doesn't matter, go
and beat them.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Choice, right, they're gonna go go beat the team that's
seven and nine or whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I mean going the road.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
If you're gonna win a super Bowl on make it
to the super Bowl, you're gonna have to face some challenges.
We talk about all the time when Eli Manning won
those two Super Bowls, or get on the road, go to.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Green Bed Ben Roethlisberger and then did that once too, go.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Where you gotta go and win the game. When Aaron
Rodgers and the Packers won what were six seed? Right,
there were six seed? They went on the road and
they played three rule games a Super Bow.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
To get to get to the Super Bowl. Listen, you
can get it done. And again I just mentioned and
I wasn't even you know, just trying to be funny,
like the Lions are undefeated on the road, like they
they beat Minnesota on the road, they beat Green Bay
on the road, so they're doing right. So it's not
I don't think he's overly worried. I think it's more
of an observation like, oh, shoot, now that this thing
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has happened for the second time, and I guarantee you
he doesn't know the first time. I think it's the
first time it's crossed his mind like, oh wait a minute,
but post crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
When I first heard it, I thought to myself, Okay,
is this.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Brown like greasing the skids so they lose?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
They lose?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So then you know what I mean, because you're putting
it out there, and then you'll have something to complain about.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And then if the Lions go on the road right
there sea and.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Lose to somebody Bucks or something, right, then they'll be like,
this wasn't fair.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Right, Oh, this wasn't fair. We were fourteen and three.
We should have had a while, We should have been this,
that and the other thing. That's the part that I
don't like. I just wouldn't have entertained it. I don't
even if he's asked, dude, I'm the only thing I
care about is Sunday we win the game and we'll
have what we what we work for all year.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I do don't mind it. I don't mind if he
goes that is kind of wild. Has that ever happened before,
because I'm sure he doesn't know they go, oh, it's
hap me what other time he's like, oh, that is
kind of crazy. But at the end of the day,
we got a team in front of us. We're going
out there to win and smash whoever's in front of us.
That's you know, that's the answer. But remember this is
the air of podcast. It is the air of you know.
I gotta get my stuff out there because The first
place he entertained this was on his podcast. This was
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the first time that he actually talked about it. And
then obviously the reporters got a hold that say, hey,
you said this before. But I don't think he's overly worried.
I mean, I think this team has been built the
way they are, the way their defense is right now.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
What I saw brock perty do I'm afraid if I'm
a Lions No, I'm just talking about just in general.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Listen, but don't break rob Gee. Look at their defense.
I caught them the Detroit Lions. They've been the Detroit
that But that's why the only thing I'll say, and
I'm not even saying.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Lightning, is what I'm saying their defense.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
If here's where you here's one thing that I'll say though,
and I was telling Rob g this. Their defense isn't
great right now. It was actually really good throughout the
season to all these injuries, but it hasn't been great
the last four or five weeks or so.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We all know that injuries.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
But the thing you have to do, Vikings or the Rams,
if they were to lose and go face the Rams,
whoever may be, you better keep scoring. The Buffalo Bills.
Did y'all see that game destroying the Lions? Josh Allen
looked like the greatest thing since cy spread and you know.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
How happened in the game the Bills. Well, that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
You better keep scoring because that's the one thing the
Lions are gonna do. Keep scoring at the biggest plus
differential plus my you know, points differential in the entire NFL,
the number one offense. So so I'm just saying their
defense can give you vikings twenty five, twenty six, you'd hey,
just put it on the board. Y'all got twenty six, Well,
y'all bet maybe get to thirty because this offense is
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going to score. Jared Goff is going to produce. They're
gonna run the ball, and they're gonna have trick plays
and they're gonna score. So that's the thing. I'm not
saying they're unbeatable now because of this defense, but they.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Better keep say, giving up thirty one plus in three
of their last four game, that's.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
A lot of points they went on them to try
to win. How many they win, that don't matter. What
do you need, it don't matter, It doesn't matter. That
won twice out of the four and and you better
win them. Boys are fourteen and two.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
All I'm saying is when you look at it as
you get to this twice, that the Vikings aren't like
some and you already beat the Vikings already and there
so they kind of owe you one and they this.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Is like you beat Pckers. We beat them twice.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Okay, but this is the Vikings. You'd have won Sam
Donald's this and then they got the coach, and you
got the defense like they got. They got a good defense.
That defense is really flores.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I just I don't know, say you Button Miami. I'm
gotta feeling the Lions Mike get skunked in this game?
Is that possible? Thirty one? Nothing is that that two?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Rob G?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Did you just now you went the boy?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Rob G?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
We always went a whole showed out in extreme Rob Parker,
I was, I was worried about it. I thought it
was New Year, New you for a minute. Thank you
for coming back to earth and giving me a.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Robstock the minute short. Because not just they gotta lose
thirty one. Nothing is Jared GOB's gonna throw four two
up the Big six. It's gonna gamble four times, and
none of them work.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
None of the plays worked three times, fourth and goal
at the goal line, They're gonna get stopped three times.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
The best part about this, Rob g for the next one.
Is it seventy two hours or forty eight hours? Rob
Parker is about to be a Sam Donald fa hating
on them all year. Boy, you about to have a
Sam Donna believe I got his jersey at home. I
can't wait to see you with your Sam Donald palm palms?
Where are you watching the game? I might pull up,
Oh you not, I might pull up. I can't watch
(27:53):
games like that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Nah might pull up on you.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Because the last time we had that, what was that
playoff game where Tom Brady threw the interception against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And who was it?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Ford?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Lined up? You remember, I can't remember what was his
first name? D Ford? You remember? Lined up offside?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That was a game losing interception and it got called
back And I could not believe.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
We were all out at a sports bar. That's what
Chris was used to hang out, was living out here
in LA and all that, and we all.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Went it was like twenty of us. I was so sick.
I was like, I can't watch games. I had to
walk out. I walked out.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Chris was like, you disappeared because you know it was
a Brady and all that. Yeah, I need a smoke brick.
You don't even smoke. I need it one after that,
I tell you, yeah, whatever, I'll text you. I'm gonna
pull up
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Speaker 2 (00:22):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Rob G can you tell us what happened with please?
At nine to eight?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
When he didn't answer Besides getting Rob Parker's panties in
the bunch, cam Ward really upset a lot of people
in the college football world. Baw, it was ridiculous. I
saw everything he decided. Now here's the thing, here's the backstory.
His head coach, Mario Christovo made a big point over
the weekend and say, hey, our guy is playing in
(00:52):
the bowl game and he deserves to be commended because
a lot of people in NIL in this era of
football would sit this kind of game out, and our
guy's different and rightfully he is playing in the.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Pop Tarts Bowl. That sounds like a joke.
Speaker 4 (01:05):
So cam Ward came out in the first half and
lit the world on fire, threw a couple of touchdown passes,
became the NCAA all time leader in career touchdown passes
in the first half, and then just decided he wasn't
going to play the second half. And because he did that,
couple with the fact that Gristobol after the game was
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basically giving the no comment as to why his guy
didn't finish the game out when they had a chance
to win it in the fourth quarter. They're only down
by one and if you gotta imagine, if they had
cam Ward, they would have won that game.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
He didn't play.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
But again, him deciding to play the first half not
play the second half rough with a lot of feathers
in the college football world.
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Rock Party's fun. Did you see that passed outfield? Okay,
that's not fun. That's not fun. No, I don't have.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
An issue with cam Ward at all. He didn't even
have to play at all. He played the first half.
They kind of knew what was the situation is. And
that's not going to change that football that college football
teams uh anything by him not playing in the second half.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
And this guy is going to be a.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
Top pick and his whole career, and people need to
stop the biggest fallacy going is that everybody who plays
college football is making millions of dollars with n I
l It's not true. There's a handful of people I'm asking.
We could say, can you name all the TV national
(02:36):
TV spots?
Speaker 3 (02:37):
You know you've seen whatever I mean.
Speaker 5 (02:41):
Juju Watkins has one, and and.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Caleb Williams had a few two years ago after coming
off the Heisman.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
But where are the other people? I don't know where
they are.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I don't see him, And that's what I'm trying to say.
So what are you saying. I guess I'm saying him
what's the money part have to do with him playing.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
The idea that he already committed to playing like the half,
which was putting his potential NFL career in jeopardy. Whether
people want to acknowledge or not that he could get hurt,
you can get hurt, you can lose millions of dollars.
But to put hisself out there for longer than he
(03:23):
needs to. I have no issue with that. The coach obviously,
they talked about it. They all came to an agreement.
So it ain't like, oh my God and the end
of the world, Oh that they gotta win the pop
Tars Bowl for what that ain't. If this was for
the college football playoffs and the national champion, he would play.
Anybody worth the assault would play in that game.
Speaker 5 (03:45):
I just I don't have a massive problem with it,
but I would have preferred him to finish it just
because he started it, you know what I mean. Mean
if you say, look, if you're gonna play, if he wasn't,
we get it. You're top side.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
But you're okay with say Kwan Barkley starting it but
not finishing the game. You said you're okay with Saquon
starting and if he doesn't, he doesn't have to finish.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Again, why doesn't he have to play.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
The entire Because I'm answered that because for Cam, this
is it, like this is your last Gamequon, try to
get it first half. We're going on to the playoffs,
hopefully in a perfect world for them, they're going to
the super Bowl. This is Cam's last game, So this
is your last game. You didn't have to play. I
agree with that. If he's just saying, man, I'm a
top five pick, I choose not to. That's his choice.
Just like I said, I respect Travis and shading them
(04:27):
saying they want to play. They want to finish the
job with their team. So that was my point is
if he chose to play, and he looked this coach,
you want to play, then I'm like, all right, cool,
just play. Finish the game. This is your last game.
Go out with your boys. You came in and you
want to finish with him. That was what I would
have preferred.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
And I think way that they were like, well, just
going in the last draw, no I didn't play the second.
Speaker 5 (04:47):
Well that made now that I agree, that makes it
weird at that point to like you're.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
Gonna pick a spot to go back in there.
Speaker 5 (04:53):
That's the worst statement to me than just saying I'm
not gonna play. Hey, guys, look i'm gonna play. I
want to, you know, play with you guys. First half
that the die, but I'm not playing the second. I'm
gonna let you guys rock out. Then to come back
in when it's convenient be like, oh wait, let me
go win it, And that would be weird. That would
be in there. So maybe to the quarterback who would
have been in the team because the yo, you weren't
good enough to play the first four team other you
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got to just come back when it's convenient to make,
you know, making a great play for you.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
I won a game for you, So I don't agree
with that.
Speaker 5 (05:21):
But that's why I prefer him to start it and
play it or just say yo, I was with y'all,
we had a good run. I'm going to the league.
I would prefer him to either just do that or
play the game. Just play the game. Either way, I'm
okay with it because I get why guys don't. It
ain't the college football playoff. I might get hurt. I'm
a top five pick.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I get it. But I would prefer you to play
given the insurance money. It ain't.
Speaker 5 (05:45):
It ain't the same as what you would make if
you're a top pick being decapitated to like not still
get when you're this good.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
What you have to be, But you're not getting it's
not up.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
You don't have an insurance policy for one hundred and
sixty million.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
I'm saying what I'm sayings like cam Ward fractures his leg,
he's still being a top ten pick. But but you
know what I'm saying, like, I'm not when you're that good,
it's the middling guys. If you're a third round picks, a.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Kid who's a kid rob G who got caught with
the on Twitter with the gas and it costs him
money in the beginning.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Is different than but I'm thinking you're a you know,
it might be a bad kid because you got a
freaking gas mask.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Full of weed on, you know. But I'm just so
the man. But Batman would we they.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Cost him money, is all I'm saying. And you don't
know if if depending on how bad.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
The injury is. No, I'm not saying he might go from.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
If your foot is detached or it needs pins, you
know what I mean, or or it's some injury like
that that changes your whole like.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
We don't know just when you're that good as good
as he is Heisman candidate and in this good like
he'll be. But I get the idea for That's so
I said, I'm not mad if he didn't play. I'm
not mad at that. Oh don't you play? Just go
ahead and finish it is how I feel.
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Speaker 5 (07:18):
Say Kwan, I wasn't here yesterday, so once the whole
announcement that he wasn't gonna play came out. I know
you guys had a spirited debate, spirited conversation. However, we
also find out Rob that he says, Man, I ain't
gonna lie. Your boy wanted to play.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Ask me if I wanted to play.
Speaker 6 (07:34):
If I want to go for it, I said on Sunday,
I probably didn't care too much for it. When I
slept on it, I was like, the opportunity to implant
my you know, my name in football history. May never
get another opportunity like that again. So I'm down. But
at the end of the day, I don't care for
putting in the team at risk. He's a head coach
for a reason. He makes the decisions, and whatever decision
he wanted to make, I let him know if you
(07:54):
want me to play, I'm gonna go out there and
make sure I get it. And if we don't, I'm
okay with that too.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Man.
Speaker 5 (07:59):
Listen, I said it before, I'll say it again. I
totally get the you. And if he gets injured, I
understand that's a returial thing. Football is inherently dangerous, without
a doubt, But to me, when you have a chance
to do something special, a thing that I think sometimes
we forget. It's also one of the things what makes
sports special. We see things we never thought we'd see before.
We see records broken, we see Klay Thompson hit all
(08:21):
these threes in the game. We see people throw for
Peyton Manning fifty touchdowns when he did it, tell me
the last.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Big record breaking thing you saw, can you give it
to me?
Speaker 5 (08:31):
Yes, shoe hail Tani fifty stolen bases. And I loved
it and it was great. And we sat up here
and argued about it for a day, a couple of days,
and he guess what he did.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
He want a World Series to add to boot.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
And in that case, there was no question about him
playing because he didn't worried about getting injured.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
It was just the.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Course of the season, correct, the games mattered, he was
playing the season. It was nothing that would impede him
with question whether or not he should play.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
Correct, right, I mean, but that's the point.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
The point is he went to get a record, and
I mean he he happened to get a record, and
if it was a.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
Last to get I'm gonna tell you why.
Speaker 5 (09:09):
If they were the last game of the season one
sixty two and he was at forty nine. You don't
think Shoe hal Tani is busting his butt for four
or five opportunities to get this stolen base man. That
man would have been looking like the return of Ricky Henderson.
And so my point is, I like this. Sakwan came
out and said, look, man, I thought about it. Look,
I really would love to do something special.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
And I get it.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
I understand the inherent risk of danger that's football ever
since you're in pee wee league. But if you got
a chance to get this record, not only for him,
his offensive line, for the team, and then you go
up mess around to win the Super Bowl, that only
adds to it. What an even more remarkable season this was.
So I understand the decision. I think that's the uh
more cliche decision if you will for people. But I
(09:55):
love the fact that he came out said I want
I just love the fact that his dad wanted it
for him. It's something to do something we hadn't seen
the in forty years. Why not go for it? And again,
now I'm not saying play forty five rushing attempts, you're
gonna go out of our way, but if you give
him hey Man, offensive line, it's on y'all, say Kwan's
on you giving you one half, get or done, and
(10:16):
then we're gonna move on. I think that would have
been an awesome thing, would add some fun to the to
the for the whole fan base, for the team. And again,
if you mess around and win a super Bowl, you're
only adding to what made it even more of a
special season. Uh so, I but I get to again,
I get what they're doing, but only that makes a
weird real.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Quick last wear, what side do you want? I'm easy.
I've been saying it the whole time. Are you going
for it?
Speaker 5 (10:37):
You? But you keep saying because that's the logical thing
for the Oh, we're not gonna go for it.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I say, you go for it? Something special? Why not?
He's gonna get it.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
It's easy for him to get because and to add
to it, it's against the Giants.
Speaker 3 (10:50):
I like a little petty against my division rival.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
Let me go ahead of there and rub it in
their face that y'all let him go and Daniel Jones
is gone. Say Kwan's gone, he's balling. You're three and thirteen.
We're thirteen and three, and he just got the Russian
record on y'all. I've been saying go for it, and
I would have thought this was something that would be
something fun for that team, that city, that organization, and
again and now you go try to chase the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
It's the ultimate selfish move.
Speaker 1 (11:18):
And that's why because you're looking at it in a
vacuum like it's just say Kuon Barkley.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
It's not just say Kuon Barkley. It's all of his.
Speaker 1 (11:29):
Other offensive linemen to know that have to play that
also could wind up getting hurt. Not just say Kuon
What if you lose an offensive lineman or two trying
to get a meaningless a mean and a record in
a meaningless game.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
That's what you have to look at. It's not individual.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
If this was basketball and there was one guy, fine,
Football doesn't work like that.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
The reason that he's in.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
This position is because other people have to do their job.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Here's the day, want the reward.
Speaker 1 (12:04):
Here's a chance to let these guys rest, to get ready,
be healthy to make a run to win the super Bowl.
If this was about one person, it would be different.
Even Josh Allen, all right, now there's a question, Oh
you know what Josh, you should play the whole game.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
Go put up these numbers. We don't care if you
get hurt. Go.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
No, Josh Allen isn't even playing, even though he could
wind up losing his MVP on the last day.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
Yes or no, he.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
Could, he could, of course, but why not have Josh
Allen play so he could solidify.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Because the MVP will be awesome, But it's also not
a record. Every year we get one of those.
Speaker 7 (12:44):
No, he doesn't have any MVPs though every year chance
with the record that has for forty years, and a chance,
and there's no guarantee that he's gonna get it.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
No, it's not absolutely And here's a chance that the
giant could say, dude, we'll take care.
Speaker 5 (13:02):
Oh yeah, really, one can't coon. The giants already can't coon.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
But but the other the thing that people never look
at is it's not individual you.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
Can That's why I'm point getting rid of the lineman would
love this. Anyone OJ got it. Aaron Dierson insident, that
is also a sign of what you did.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
He can't get it without.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
The line the offensive lineman who helped Eric Dickerson get
the record.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
What is that?
Speaker 2 (13:27):
No?
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Not you? I don't know that.
Speaker 5 (13:29):
I can't tell you eight percent of offensive exactly, what
does that matter?
Speaker 3 (13:33):
That doesn't mean absolutely mean something. That's it. They don't
know naming it offensive line. I can't name it offensive lineman.
Speaker 8 (13:42):
Patrick, do you know that the offensive Hey, aren't you
built for the offensive lineman?
Speaker 5 (13:48):
That helped say why would it matter to the record?
Why would it matter to a crowd? It matters to them,
the offensive lineman. That's who it matters. What I'm saying
themselves saying to you, what's more important? Trying to win
a Super Bowl?
Speaker 1 (14:03):
We want that. Why didn't we have Bollier this year?
Didn't we have to set a record against the Giants?
And he punted on that. So he punted on that.
Why would you punt on that? That was another record?
He could have had the most yards in a game.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
But what makes it interesting is Davante Adams, I mean Smith,
he went. They let him get a record last year.
They let him get nine hundred and something yards to
beat the Shawn Jackson in the end of the season.
They let him do that. So make that make sense.
We're trying to break a random to Shawn Jackson award.
Who ain't no Hall of Famer who has there's no
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real notoriety with that.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Dude. Last year, didn't they not make the playoffs last year? Yeah?
What I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (14:45):
So, I'm saying, if you have guys out there in
a meaningless game you're trying to super say, you got
guys out here who could get hurt and you need
a guy. No, but if they didn't make the playoffs,
the Vontae Smith going for a record that means nothing,
him going for a record that hasn't and broken in
forty years.
Speaker 3 (15:01):
No, and you can win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 5 (15:03):
I can show hey, Toddy, this thing fifty fifty World
Series ring only adds to this.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You have a good enough team to make a run. Yes,
you don't want buye. You don't have a buy to
rest people up. You play the next week. You got
your guys a half, go get this record. No, you
don't go get this record.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
It's a big.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
Difference not to not to not to play at all
and give your body.
Speaker 5 (15:29):
He's trying to he's trying to be company that he
wants it way more than he just trying to be.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
He ain't trying to be to say that he said
that he wanted it now.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Yes, and I'm saying, he really wants it, but I
get it. He's like going for the bigger good, which
again that is the obvious answer.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Oh what if you get hurt? What if he's not?
Speaker 8 (15:46):
It's not just him though, Can you stop saying and
if he gets hurt? I'm saying, audif you lose an
offensive lineman, one or two starting offensive lineman, because you
you're going after a record in a game, that doesn't
matter if the.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Game anything is always extreme with you.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
No, I'm being realistically. You know I'm being realistic from
the standpoint. You always have to look at it. You
can always want to possible situations. Aaron Rodgers got hurt
with four snaps, right, they didn't have a Rogers If
you lose him for the season and four snaps hurt
anytime the de have a backup quarterback ready to go,
(16:24):
That's my point I'm saying, But you got hurt in
four plays, you can get hurt anytime.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
So I just think it's a cool opportunity. It's a rarity.
It happens. You got something that's great for a guy
who has been busting his butt for an offensive line
who has been this strong part of your season, uh
you know, and and allows you to get close to
this record and just go for it. That's just my thing.
I'm not saying you rush him forty five fifty time
till we get it.
Speaker 8 (16:46):
Not why not if you if you're going for the record,
if it means something to him, why not, because it
doesn't make saying he won't.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
Have to Why because he hasn't had to do that
all seasons.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
Say he's struggling in this game and he has thirty
five carriage and he doesn't have the record. You want
to stop, then we gave it a crack. No, it's
means something. You just said it, right, I'm saying it.
So if you try to do anything to make it happen.
Speaker 5 (17:10):
Because I know my team won't have to do that
against the lowly Giants, that's not the issue.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
So we're going to get it in the first half.
The dude is averaging.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Why not let him play the whole game and get
it if it means something to him.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
I'm not gonna rush him fifty times because if I
if I have to do that, then maybe the game
is competitive made the Giants are lay in the wood.
If you will, I'm saying We're gonna go out there
with the game plan. Yo, you got two quarters, baby,
get it done. Lineman, let's go get this day. So
he plays two quarters and he's eight yard short, that's,
of course we're going to get it eight yards eight yards.
Speaker 3 (17:44):
So that's not two quarters.
Speaker 5 (17:45):
What I'm saying, We're not going to go out of
our way if it's not two quarters in one run. Okay,
there you have it, two quarters in one run. Go
get it man, some live a little get in the record.
Fox add to an amazing season.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
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Speaker 1 (18:13):
Get us up to date on these crying Lions worried
about changing the NFL.
Speaker 5 (18:20):
New Man, new Year knew me. I'm not even about
to jump over this table. I'm just saying new Year
knew me.
Speaker 4 (18:24):
Well to your point, everybody who listens to the couple
knows this. But Sunday Night, Lions and the Vikings for
all the marbles in the NFC. The winner will win
the NFC North will be the top seed in the
NFC playoffs.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
Can you tell Kelvin please, and we'll get a first round.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
By what happens if the Lions lose the game, the
loser of that game will drop down to the fifth seed,
will play in the wildcard round.
Speaker 3 (18:51):
But not only that, they gotta play on the road.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Oh wait, Rob g, Rob G in the words remember
one we said sor ain't gonna be no problem. Ain't
gonna be no problem. Let me ask you and guess
Lions or we do you know the record this year
on the road?
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Undefeated? Undefeated? Okay, ain't gonna be no problem. Ain't gonna
be no problem? And guess where I'll be Sunday night.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
I'm coming over if the Lions lose, now will be
I will be in the parking lot in my call,
waiting for Monday show. I just want you to know
I'm not coming it on Monday, Rob, Do you know that.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
It's gonna be like first day of school? So excited?
Speaker 4 (19:26):
I'll be in the Yes, Christmas finished the challenges you
right over to the parking shoot.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
Right after the the fastest NBC.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
You know the fact that this game has so much
writing on it has not been lost on anybody, including
Lions wide receiver I'm Monross Saint Brown. He has a
problem with the way the loser is being penalized in
such a way.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Take a listen. That's the craziest I'm thinking about now.
It's one of the crazies rules. Ever, the NFL needs
to change into division winners obviously make the playoffs after that,
best record from seeding. That's how seat is gonna work.
Speaker 6 (20:01):
Best record, top four teams get you know, one through
four season, all the way down.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
What why is he even entertaining that win the game?
You don't have to worry about all of that. I
just hate the idea because this is an anomaly. You
know that this doesn't happen rob at this It's happened
one other time in the NFL. Okay, So here's my
point is it doesn't happen that often. And you want
(20:30):
to make the divisions worth something, right, winning the division
otherwise what would be the point? Then then you're gonna
get rid of all the divisions. That's why you make
it worthwhile. So the NFL is not gonna change anything
because one year the Vikings and Lions happened to each
go fourteen and two.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
I think the only thing that would make it considerate
is we've had the opposite. We've had teams that were
just back when it was sixteen games, but you know
seven and nine when they're division. Cam Newton did that
a couple of times where he won the division, like
three years in a row. Two of the three wasn't
even above five hundred and so that kind of I
can see them saying, if you know, the rules committee
(21:09):
say that is kind of question that, but I'm gonna
not reward the Vikings or the Lions in this case
and give the you know, if it were the Panthers
of the you know, say this year, the seven to
nine Panthers they get to get a bye, I can
see them saying, we want to line it up where
we're trying. I wouldn't want the Vikings or the Lions
to lose to that. Like I want to get the
Vikings or the Lions in the later rounds against the Eagles,
(21:30):
Like I could see them one and again that's the
best teams, you know later in the in the conference.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Uh. We saw two years ago in baseball that the
best teams got the bods and they all long. But
you know, baseball is weird sport with automatic that because especial.
Speaker 5 (21:46):
Because it's a one and done football, right, But I
think that that's the only reason why I'm saying I
could see them considering is like, well, now that we
have this, it still only happened twice, That's what I'm saying.
But now that we have that, you're not hardly ever
again twice. Where you're gonna have a team that be
fourteen and three be a five seed. That is absolutely
crazy to think about. But I think the larger conversation
(22:13):
is more so because it just happened the only second
time in history that it makes you go, oh, well,
I never even thought about that because it never happens.
But now that I'm thinking about it, that is kind
of crazy that Lions or Vikings would have to do
all this going the road and you can have a
terrible you know, the Falcons or the Bucks who didn't
have some great season.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Now they get fourteen and three, it doesn't matter, go
and beat them.
Speaker 8 (22:34):
Choice, right, they're gonna go go beat the team that's
seven and nine or whatever.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
I mean going the road.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
If you're gonna win a super Bowl on make it
to the super Bowl, you're gonna have to face some challenges.
We talk about all the time when Eli Manning won
those two Super Bowls, or get on the road, go to.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Green Bed Ben Roethlisberger and then did that once too, go.
Speaker 1 (22:54):
Where you gotta go and win the game. When Aaron
Rodgers and the Packers won what were six seed? Right,
there were six seed? They went on the road and
they played three rule games a Super Bow.
Speaker 5 (23:06):
To get to get to the Super Bowl. Listen, you
can get it done. And again I just mentioned and
I wasn't even you know, just trying to be funny,
like the Lions are undefeated on the road, like they
they beat Minnesota on the road, they beat Green Bay
on the road, so they're doing right. So it's not
I don't think he's overly worried. I think it's more
of an observation like, oh, shoot, now that this thing
(23:26):
has happened for the second time, and I guarantee you
he doesn't know the first time. I think it's the
first time it's crossed his mind like, oh wait a minute,
but post crazy.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
When I first heard it, I thought to myself, Okay,
is this.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Brown like greasing the skids so they lose?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
They lose?
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So then you know what I mean, because you're putting
it out there, and then you'll have something to complain about.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
And then if the Lions go on the road right
there sea and.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
Lose to somebody Bucks or something, right, then they'll be like,
this wasn't fair.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Right, Oh, this wasn't fair. We were fourteen and three.
We should have had a while, We should have been this,
that and the other thing. That's the part that I
don't like. I just wouldn't have entertained it. I don't
even if he's asked, dude, I'm the only thing I
care about is Sunday we win the game and we'll
have what we what we work for all year.
Speaker 5 (24:14):
I do don't mind it. I don't mind if he
goes that is kind of wild. Has that ever happened before,
because I'm sure he doesn't know they go, oh, it's
hap me what other time he's like, oh, that is
kind of crazy. But at the end of the day,
we got a team in front of us. We're going
out there to win and smash whoever's in front of us.
That's you know, that's the answer. But remember this is
the air of podcast. It is the air of you know.
I gotta get my stuff out there because The first
place he entertained this was on his podcast. This was
(24:36):
the first time that he actually talked about it. And
then obviously the reporters got a hold that say, hey,
you said this before. But I don't think he's overly worried.
I mean, I think this team has been built the
way they are, the way their defense is right now.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
What I saw brock perty do I'm afraid if I'm
a Lions No, I'm just talking about just in general.
Speaker 5 (24:55):
Listen, but don't break rob Gee. Look at their defense.
I caught them the Detroit Lions. They've been the Detroit
that But that's why the only thing I'll say, and
I'm not even saying.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
Lightning, is what I'm saying their defense.
Speaker 5 (25:08):
If here's where you here's one thing that I'll say though,
and I was telling Rob g this. Their defense isn't
great right now. It was actually really good throughout the
season to all these injuries, but it hasn't been great
the last four or five weeks or so.
Speaker 3 (25:20):
We all know that injuries.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
But the thing you have to do, Vikings or the Rams,
if they were to lose and go face the Rams,
whoever may be, you better keep scoring. The Buffalo Bills.
Did y'all see that game destroying the Lions? Josh Allen
looked like the greatest thing since cy spread and you know.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
How happened in the game the Bills. Well, that's what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (25:40):
You better keep scoring because that's the one thing the
Lions are gonna do. Keep scoring at the biggest plus
differential plus my you know, points differential in the entire NFL,
the number one offense. So so I'm just saying their
defense can give you vikings twenty five, twenty six, you'd hey,
just put it on the board. Y'all got twenty six, Well,
y'all bet maybe get to thirty because this offense is
(26:02):
going to score. Jared Goff is going to produce. They're
gonna run the ball, and they're gonna have trick plays
and they're gonna score. So that's the thing. I'm not
saying they're unbeatable now because of this defense, but they.
Speaker 1 (26:11):
Better keep say, giving up thirty one plus in three
of their last four game, that's.
Speaker 5 (26:16):
A lot of points they went on them to try
to win. How many they win, that don't matter. What
do you need, it don't matter, It doesn't matter. That
won twice out of the four and and you better
win them. Boys are fourteen and two.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
All I'm saying is when you look at it as
you get to this twice, that the Vikings aren't like
some and you already beat the Vikings already and there
so they kind of owe you one and they this.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Is like you beat Pckers. We beat them twice.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Okay, but this is the Vikings. You'd have won Sam
Donald's this and then they got the coach, and you
got the defense like they got. They got a good defense.
That defense is really flores.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
I just I don't know, say you Button Miami. I'm
gotta feeling the Lions Mike get skunked in this game?
Is that possible? Thirty one? Nothing is that that two?
Speaker 5 (27:00):
Rob G?
Speaker 3 (27:00):
Did you just now you went the boy?
Speaker 6 (27:03):
Rob G?
Speaker 5 (27:04):
We always went a whole showed out in extreme Rob Parker,
I was, I was worried about it. I thought it
was New Year, New you for a minute. Thank you
for coming back to earth and giving me a.
Speaker 3 (27:13):
Robstock the minute short. Because not just they gotta lose
thirty one. Nothing is Jared GOB's gonna throw four two
up the Big six. It's gonna gamble four times, and
none of them work.
Speaker 5 (27:24):
None of the plays worked three times, fourth and goal
at the goal line, They're gonna get stopped three times.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
Hey.
Speaker 5 (27:30):
The best part about this, Rob g for the next one.
Is it seventy two hours or forty eight hours? Rob
Parker is about to be a Sam Donald fa hating
on them all year. Boy, you about to have a
Sam Donna believe I got his jersey at home. I
can't wait to see you with your Sam Donald palm palms?
Where are you watching the game? I might pull up,
Oh you not, I might pull up. I can't watch
(27:53):
games like that.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Nah might pull up on you.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
Because the last time we had that, what was that
playoff game where Tom Brady threw the interception against the Chiefs.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
And who was it?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Ford?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Lined up? You remember, I can't remember what was his
first name? D Ford? You remember? Lined up offside?
Speaker 1 (28:13):
That was a game losing interception and it got called
back And I could not believe.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
We were all out at a sports bar. That's what
Chris was used to hang out, was living out here
in LA and all that, and we all.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Went it was like twenty of us. I was so sick.
I was like, I can't watch games. I had to
walk out. I walked out.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Chris was like, you disappeared because you know it was
a Brady and all that. Yeah, I need a smoke brick.
You don't even smoke. I need it one after that,
I tell you, yeah, whatever, I'll text you. I'm gonna
pull up
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