October 11, 2025 • 34 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether the Philadelphia Eagles’ general style of winning is conducive to long-term success this season, explain why North Carolina needs to bite the bullet and dump Bill Belichick, and argue with Super Producer Rob G about whether the Arizona Cardinals erred in fining head coach Jonathan Gannon $100k after he put his hands on running back Emari Demercado.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
And Rob g. Let's go Eagles. They lose first time.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They had won eighteen in a row, twenty one out
of twenty two, and they lose on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well, they won ten straight. Jalen Hurts had the eighteen
because remember he didn't finish that game. That's right, j
Jalen Hurts is a different animal. Yes, they lost on
Sunday to the Denver Broncos. And it was a big
game because all last week and in the last couple
of weeks, there's been conversation about the passing offense. AJ
Brown's not happy to mont de Smith's not happy. So
what the Eagles did on Sunday they say, hey, we
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are gonna feed are two big wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Nice cool job.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Even though they came in ranked thirty first NFL in passing.
They attempted thirty eight passes on Sunday and ran the
ball just eleven times, and needless to say, it backfire
oncause you mentioned their ten game win streak is no
more than Eagles try to flip the script on their
identity and it backfired in a big way.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
You know, me and you talked about the Eagles rob
a couple of obviously a couple of times over the
last few years, and I can't make out what the
heck the Eagles are other than they're starting to be
a chink in the armor.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Something's going on with them.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
And I think that last play that held Mary that
they could have caught Davonte Smith looked like he was
actually about to grab it, and AJ Brown said, it
starts to catching the ball. I'm gonna catch Davonte's neck.
It's just body slammed his own teammate to the ground.
And I think that play is more indigative of what
the Eagles are looking like right now internally and externally.
(01:54):
AJ Brown didn't have the wherewithal the sense of say,
Davonte Smith might come down with this, so they both
end up on the ground as a shot of them
just laying on each other at the end of that game.
Something is going on, Robinie. Does it makes sense considering
you know, they're the ragning champs, They've got time together,
same coach and I guess the new coach. They got
the same kind of core, so you would think they'd
be locked and loaded in as far as where they are.
(02:15):
And man, something is off and a couple of things
to know. Number one, the thing they've they've done nothing else.
They've run the ball, right, that's what they do. They
were second all last year averaging one hundred and so
they had an unbelievable running back. What an unbelievable year two?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, as I'm saying one hundred and seventy nine yards. Yeah,
but the defenses are playing different. Sat Quan is not
going to get two thousand.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You don't need two thousands.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm saying more than thirty on six carries in the
second half vers Denver. And something is off right now
with the rushing attack. He's averaging three point one yards
of carry, which is the worst for the Eagles in
like thirty years. So something's going on with the running game.
Which is fine, Okay, you say, Well, like you said,
people are focusing in on the rushing now because that's
what we've done well.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So we're airing it out.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
As Rob Jesus mentioned, their last in passing, they went
a half without a completed pass. They've got a couple
of hands with only seven yards one.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
How many games have they won?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
They're four and one right now, and they're a block
field goal. They don't make that from being worst record.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
They just something. We could sit here all day and
talk about that at all. All block field goals.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Somebody fumbles, somebody do Oh if the charges, if the
Chargers didn't throw interception, they would be Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They're doing interception part of the game.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I don't play and the Eagles don't.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Look I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Concerned at all because I remember last year and we
can find the tape.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yes, you were going into the Super Bowl. Oh, look
at Jalen Hurds. He don't look good. There's something wrong
with them.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I know you were hoping that, you know, so that
the Lions could beat them or something.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So you were kind of talking to it because you were.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Talking down about Jalen Hurts and how he was performing
and he was the weak link. And guess who was
the Super Bowl MVP. It was you thought was the
weak LNGK.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Let me, let's run a tape. Let's be clear what
I said. My concern with Jalen Hurts, and it still stands.
My concern was if he were in a shootout, could
he pull it off. Not that Jalen Hurts can't win
a game. You don't have to be in a shootout,
but that was my concern. If I have to say,
Jalen Hurts, go win it. Jalen Hurts has gotten the
job done. He's been, he's been, He's had a heck
of a career. I'm not even arguing if I said
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to you right now, arguing wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If I said nothing is wrong, ain't nothing is wrong,
nothing is wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I can't run the balls. The teams go through this.
You said that about the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
The Steelers can't run the ball. Aaron Rodgers is forty one. No,
I'm saying what you said. Hold on, listen to what
I'm saying. You said that earlier. They're three and one
and haven't even played one game at home. My point
is football is very simple. It's about wins and losses.
Stop with the how it looks. How it looks doesn't
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you're not total doesn't power looks okay does not.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Let's pull the lose, Let's pull these for in the row.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Okay, then you could Rob only would say this to
Rob because Rob set up here an entirely last year
knocking the Chiefs who did the exact same thing, knowing
all all season long. No, they did nothing but win
to the two of the six fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And one, and then what happened in.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
The super Bowl. All I said happened in super Bowl.
So don't tell me happen.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Don't tell you what I told you was going to
tire they weren't super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes, the entire tason telling me they don't look good.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Something wrong. I don't like the way they win. This
can't keep winning. You did, they can't keep winning like that.
I don't like that's what you say. So all I'm
saying is no Eagles, something is off with them, because
again I'm not different.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The difference is on that story is the Eagles have
a track record. They won the Super Bowl, and people
say one.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
One super Bowl and three who has a track record the.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Same thing last year. All I'm telling you is I'm
not I'm not gonna get my pennies.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They lost the game, But you've been looking for a year.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
They've been playing fining for a J. Brown just man
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Last year going into the super Bowl that he was
the weak link.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And now about a great team? You concerned about it
and a great team? And what was the t v P?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
The v P?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It wasn't the offensive line exactly, wasn't the defensive line.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It was him and guy?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
You said, And so what's going on when I have
both of my star receivers questioning me? DeVante Smith? Who
doesn't see you? I say, the receivers do? Then you
have that's what they do. Then you have to running back,
and it's about is off with it? E won through
absolutely come I got a stop and they got what
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twelve more games to go, and then they got to
go through and something the Eagles. And if you don't
have to buy it, I'll buy it for you. In fact,
I'll buy two packs of it each. Something is off
with them and I don't know what it is, and
I don't know how they remedy it, but they can't
keep their This is not sustainable winning winning these games?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
What does that mean? What are you saying? So?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What are you saying they're not gonna make the playoffs,
They're not gonna win a division for them, So what
are you saying, not gonna win a super Bowl like this? Okay,
then you can put a stamp on that, on that.
That's easy to say because teams don't repeat. It's hard to.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Wait, wait, because that's what you said about the Chiefs
the whole entire year, and they're not easy to say that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You waste my whole year because I say everybody in
their uncle picked the Chiefers because they.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Were the super Bowl. Told you, yeah, like they didn't
get to the super Bowl. No, but it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I told you everywhere you kept picking the lose. It
wasn't gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I didn't pick them to lose, Rocks. It was twelve names.
I picked every the lines, and.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Twelve times we picked the chief We literally can't no
do know. We do it about big and right. I
don't have that.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You could go back to the little he did it already,
twelve to no way, I picked twelve times.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Get to chieves.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
He's calling you out, thank you, Fine, it was ten
fix ten. He just said it was it's ten. I
just saw fun because he's on the phone twice, Mary
piped down and how you calling you out?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mary.
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Speaker 4 (09:10):
Bill Belichick and UNC they have been a laughing stock
of college football.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Start things off.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know, their only wins are against the UH We
used to be Division two programs. They just got waxed
by Clemson and Clemson not any good this year.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Either, So WRL.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Roley, a new station out there, spoke to a bunch
of parents of current players, members of the staff, non
the department, UNC board of trustees, and according to them,
multiple sources with knowledge of the inner workings of Beligicis
program say the results on the field are a product
of a divided locker room, a disorganized coaching staff, and
a failure to communicate. One source called it quote, an
unstructured mess with no culture, no organization, a complete disaster.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But it gets worse worse.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
According to this report, the experience level and perceived nepotism
with Belichick staff has been frequently called into question. It's
been questioned by players and parents and the media, with
one source saying, quote, the lack of experience the coaches
have is ridiculous in According to sources, there's a board
in the UNC football facility the list people who have
(10:12):
missed workouts in class. I got to keep accountable, right.
The only problem is some of the guys that were
brought in by Belichick or are seen as close with
his son or other specific staff members show up on
the list but never receive any kind of punishment because
they're seen as Belichick's guys.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's all bad for Double B. I'm gonna say here, Kelvin,
could I start?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I think UNC should seriously a bite to bullet
because this is not long term already, you know this
is not going to end well, this is not going
to be good.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What was the documentary that they pulled the plug on?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, has already pulled the plug on that, Okay, because
it's a train and that says a lot because normal
people want to watch train wrecks, right, and they just
realize this is a mess here. That's not really worth it.
So it's just a mess. And I brought this up too.
You know, we talked about the nepotism and the cronyism
(11:13):
and all his boys. This is like a frat party.
I'm a everybody. I know, I'm gonna hook you up.
But we got this job. We're gonna go down to
college take over. I got jobs for everybody, my family,
my friends, all this stuff, and they're no results. They
got a girlfriend again, doesn't fit in right, Like, it's
(11:34):
a mess in that situation. You have all these issues
and then you're not winning. What do we talk about
winning covers up everything. Winning is the best makeup you
could have. You'll accept anything from anybody as long as
you win.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
When you stop winning.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's a problem. And I just don't see this as
long term. They're already got play who are disgruntled, who
will probably bow out other good players are looking at
this saying, what's going on there? Oh there's a mess,
blah blah blah. Do I really want to go there?
How long is he gonna be here? Anyway? If I
go and commit, absolutely this guy, this guy might have
a pork chop dinner and he's not the coach anymore.
(12:16):
Hey yo, I'm saying he's two poork chops away.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
All right.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
First of all, first of all, there's so many ways.
Let's start with this, rob Let's start with First of all,
UNC should stand for unk.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Unk.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
This ain't it unk? This ain't it unk. The way
you were running this establishment is organization is cool?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Is not it?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Let's start from the scratch. He never wanted this job.
Unk didn't want to be here. Unk was trying to
be coaching the NFL team. Ninety nine percent of them
didn't want him. You talked about the Falcons. Maybe did
he that didn't work out. So now he's like, why
I'm gonna go prove I'm gonna show them he didn't
want this.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What's required.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He had, he had the Falcon job, and he he
messed around and they pulled it back.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yep, and now again he's in this situation with UNC
and didn't want this.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So let's start there.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Rob g talked about things that you never used to
talk about with Bill Belichick. You never talked about structure issues.
That was what he was great. If he wasn't great
or nothing, he was great at structure. He was great
at you know, the putting in kind of the schematics.
This is what we're gonna do. This is no distract,
no distractions. Just now he is a distraction. His girlfriend's
a distraction. Again that's his personal life, but it is
(13:24):
a distraction. And I also no accountability, right, it's just
and were hearing in the thing the players he brings in,
there's no accountability. They're missing class. These are things you
would never happen with a Bill Belichick ran team. At
this point, he's just collecting money. He's just collecting money.
Matter of fact, Bill Billimacheck, Bill miancheck is what he's doing.
(13:45):
How much they owe me? They a ten million this year? Okay,
but Billima check because that's all he's doing right now.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And you know what, I don't know what it is
or how much it is, Rob g how much is it?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Think want him twenty millions for him to leave? It
would be twenty at the end of the season. Twenty
at the end of the season.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Call Michael Jordan, tell them to sell a few extra
shoes and get bail up out of here. Say, you
and I never agree on much. This was something we
agreed on both that this wasn't this.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Wasn't this just what we didn't do it, and and
they all he has to do is call up Michael
Jordan's say you remember when you left at halftime of
the first game, everybody was here, Okay, yeah, okay, can
you clean this up for us?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Because Carl Roy Williams, you know who else was there?
It was like a few uh Roy, Randy Moss was there.
It's a handful of the people follow them up.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
All you have to do is say, Mike, can you
sign us two one hundred pair of Jordan's and we'll
auction them off and we'll have the money to pay
this due to get this up out of all. Right, Well,
for sure, that's all of what we.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Didn't even have to go into his own pocket. Let
me tell you also something else too.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
When you tell me that you pull the show because
of all the controversy and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So you pull a show.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
When you tell me that you basically can't mention anything
that has to do with the Patriots, you show me
this is already a bad thing. You're supposed to be
so locked into what you're doing. I don't give a
dang about what the Patriots going to honor them, don't honor.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I don't care. We're locked. Brake may played there. He's
one of your That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
But I'm saying for you to like the organization and
the football athletic director and program can't put up. But like,
we're so locked in what we're doing our next opponent,
we don't can think about that. But when you're pulling
shows you're worried about the Patriots, that just lets me
know you're not all the way in. So he wasn't
never in this for the long haul. If at best
it was going to be an allude for his son.
But the way. That's the structured. Now got a bunch
of guys who aren't built for this. College football is
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not the pro football. It's not. It's a different beast.
What's required of you is different. And Bill Belichick is
what seventy one or two?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
How old is he?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
A seventy three? He's the oldest college football coache too.
And it's just he was for.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
The next four years. Network player is going to commit
to him.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
None of us liked it from the jump, and what
you kind of need mac Brown was all but Mack
Brown had personality. Mac Brown had charmed. He had been
in college football for years. This is what I was saying,
like he took this job for his son, that it
was allus. I'm gonna set it up and throw you
to ALLU and now that might crashing down, So it's
just son to get out.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You've ever.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Take everybody with you, You've ever seen that, you know
that old man, you got that uncle, that that that
that guy who gets the new girl. And all of
a sudden he starts saying, man, let's go hang out.
And he's got a whole new outfit on, his hair
dyed a certain way.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm not on talking to you. You just stay strong, right,
you will stay strong, You will be you. I don't
have a new outfit on and you just like his
whole demeanor changes. Used to order beer, now he's ordering
like a martini.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
This is what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
This is Bill Belichick right now. This ain't the Bill
I knew.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
His friends is sitting around right now like, man, this
ain't the Bill I knew, because Bill I know would
have structure, accountability. The Bill I know would give a
dang about no patriots or other than he's locked into
what we do. The Bill I know would have tunnel
vision on how we're gonna win. Man, it's this ain't
the Bill. I This ain't the Bill I know. Bill
just wants to retire.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I know that, right.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
He just wants to go away. But she's like, no,
come on, You've got more in you. That's still hass.
Prove it to them, baby, you're God Bill. Bill's like,
I'm tired, y'all. I've been coaching football forty five. I'm tired, Boss.
I just want to go home. That's what I'm calling him.
U n C stands for unk right now and UNC Bill.
UNC Bill bellamachek, it's a rap.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I don't I know. I'm rob g jumping. I'm just curious,
all right, we both think are you with us a lot?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
You know? He loves old people. I do love old people.
I know even I said this was going to be
a train rat. Yet it's like, like, what what were
they thinking? I'm serious, I'm dead serious. What were they thinking?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And is he seventy three? He's looking it up. It's
something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But I'm just saying, like my whole idea is the
oldest coach in college football. He's seventy three years old.
What player eighteen year old is going to commit four
years to you?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And I'm serious, I been thinking about that right like
where it's like, oh, he's had this twenty five if
it was Nick Saban, whos right around? But that's they're
looking you're too younger. That's different. I'm going to play
for Nick Saban and Alabama. Ooh, this is a new Uh.
When it come to our new program, I really don't
know what I'm doing. And I got fifty new players
on my team.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And then say like you look and you're that player
and you go, okay, look at his girlfriend. This guy's
going to be in traction before mid season.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'm just tell you what, Belichick is lucky that he
and his cronies are not as glib as Deion Sanders was,
because they did and said a lot of the same
things that Deon Erth got to Colorado, Mike Lombardi was
going on podcast and interviews talking about where the we're
the ones we're gonna pay everyone for the next level.
(18:34):
And he was already a difficult personality before he got there,
Like there are people in media who just are not
a fan.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Is so when you take that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Stance at this location and you have all of the
pomp and circumstance, you have the girlfriend causing all these distractions.
You got Vladdie hitting another home run here on TV.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
What I don't understands to him is they do the
same thing over and over, Like this guy has killed you,
So what do you do? You walk the guy? You walked,
but you walked the guy. You gotta go after him.
So if you're going to pitch to him, you can't
have anybody on base. This is an O two pitch
right over the plate, Like like what like, really your shock.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
That he hit it out? Is he an MLB bro. No,
that's tough for you. No, George Springer, let off. He's
an MLB bro. We covered George Springer. He's the only one.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But anyway, two nothing already, And Yankee fans are probably
sick because this guy.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Has killed him his three home runs in three games.
You mean Bob Parker is definitely sick Yankee? Yeah, you're
a Yankee. I'm not a Yankee.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Up.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I can't I'm telling you right now, I can't wait.
Let me report hopefully. That's why my name is on
that press box, not in the stand. I can't hear
in peace up there. Hey Rob Rogerie, I hope it's
another thirty years, but dang it, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
At your funeral, I'm gonna say your lost Ron Parker
the biggest Yankee Frian I knew who. That's exactly how
I'm starting to think it ain't gonna be. It's gonna
be the you know I'm putting it. I'm taking a Yankee.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You better him, Spike Lee jay Z. I'm gonna plant
you right next to Billy Crystal. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It would be unbelievable. Family would attack you right there
if you were to try to paint me as that we're.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Gonna lie the inside of the coffin with his stripes
on the underside, and then the top is gonna be
like a dueling jersey of Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And as you're walking into the recess here, it's up
to you. No organ either, just this song at the funeral.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
But man, Rob was my man. You know, we had
a great show together. I used to love spending time
in this press box. That that song is good though,
Oh yeah, that that nice a banger. If I feel
like I put a Yankee cap on and some Timberlands
when I hear that song, I know everybody's from New York.
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Speaker 5 (21:21):
Rob g So Cardinals. We were talking about the play
that the coach made that you know, the receiver dropped
the ball. Well it happened again obviously this past Sunday
as well. Was frustrated the head coach and now a
lot of people saw the video that came out all
over to social media, right and then now it's the
(21:41):
team has come down on the coach.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That's right now a Mari di Mercado, who you wouldn't
expect to know his name were not for this play,
right he breaks free, he'ze a four string running back
seventy yard touchdown. Right as he's crossing the end zone plane,
he drops the ball touched back. Titans get the ball back.
They eventually win the game, which is a just the bonup.
So it was already he was persona non grade there
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for about twenty four hours, and then someone on social
media leaked a video of the sideline interaction between he
and Jonathan Gannon. Now de Marcartero looks like he's about
to cry, like his offensive line.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Is holding him up.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
He's really being consoled, and Gannon runs up on him
in a fit of rage, yelling in his face, which
he's entitled to, and then on his way past him,
it looks almost like either he slaps or he punches
De Marcado's arm, and that's what set things into a tizzy,
and it ultimately led to the Arizona Cardinals dropping a
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one hundred thousand dollars fine on their head coach. Well,
once that news became public, we have seen a slew
of NFL players former players mostly chime in on the situation,
most notably y Had des Bryant said, I don't agree
with the fine whatsoever, says quote, I believe it only
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happened because of the soft ass world we live in today.
If you're an athlete with any kind of integrity in
respect for the game, you'll understand this situation. That's led
to a bunch of different responses from a few notable players,
including Marcus Spears I believe he was on ESPN says, no,
little brody, keep your hands off.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
People. If you thought a coach costs you a game
and you hemmed him up, they cruciand you thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
And Lurice Jones Drew, former pro bowler now I think
works with the Rams, said to hell with the fine.
He should be fired immediately for putting his hands on it.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And you know what, thank God for those players.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I'm serious Kelvin who spoke out because if the roles
were reverse and somebody joked up Pete Carroll for having
that call to calls from the Super Bowl, right, Richard
Sherman's man or whatever, they went up and pimp slap
Pete carroll around like, what was that. You wouldn't be
in the league, right, you would be suspended, you would
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be all that. You could be yell at people. That's
a part of coaching. You can't be physical. Remember tom
Izzo was physical with player and he got people came
down on him. It ain't about the warsification of America.
Everybody's sawt No, it's not acceptable. None used to beat
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the crap out of kids. Okay, you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Parents are for that. That's not egic. That's not teaching
anybody anything.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You could get your point across without being physical, right,
that's all your parent.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
There's a way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm not saying that kids don't deserve to get spanked
for certain situations, but you're not coming upside the kid's
head every time they do misstake, a misstep, and.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
La Trou's pretty well yoked up. PJ called listenmo go
look and see right, don't drummed out the league. If
that was PJ doing it to call listener, oh, it
would have been Oh, these guys are solved. They can't
take hard coaching. That was with is Oo's a yeller.
Don't touch the kid. I don't care. I care about
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these kids. I'm trying to get them to be man. No,
don't be physical because if somebody yoked you, it would
be a problem. Yep, stop with this. Every time somebody
don't want to get yoked up, it's because everything's soft. Now,
that's not true. We're smarter than we ever have been.
(25:32):
We're more educated. We understand on how these things are,
and stuff that was doing done in the past isn't
necessarily the best way, and things have evolved. We don't
do the same things we.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Used to do. Stop it. No, listen, there's a couple
of things you just mentioned. You touched on it.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Things evolve, right, I'm gonna give you example Bobby Knight.
The stuff Bobby Knight did back in the seventh He's
an eighties rapping for players up, you know, himming them up,
choking and got away with him god, throwing chairs on
the court.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
All that would never.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Fly in twenty twenties, in twenty twenty five. So things
do evolve. I'm gonna give you another one. A legendary
coach who back in nineteen seventy eight went over and
himmed up and punched the opposing player, Woody Hayes.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do you remember that, yep?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
On the sidelines, Woody Hayes went up to a clips
of player, hemmed him up, punched him up.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
My point is again, and I get it. I understand.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Some people say, man, if Woody Hayes paid the price
for that, did it never never caught coached again and
all that. So I bring up those instances and say,
I understand back in the day things happen, this is
how it was. But to me, you can't put yourself
in a position again where Now if demccardo reacts what
it Rob g said, if you look at the video,
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he's emotional, He's got like a lineman consoling him.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm going through it.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I'm embarrassed, I'm upset, I'm frustrated myself. I feel guilty,
I'm shameful. And you come over here and make matter worse,
and then you put your.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Hands on me.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
What if I swing on you now, just as I'm
already in that bad emotional state, now you come put
your hand all on my chest, you know, swing on
me like that, and now I punch just out of
natural reaction. Now I'm the bad guy. Now, maybe the
league comes down on me. The league would come down
on now as two game, three games, four games, to
spend whatever it would be. So yeah, I think I
think coaches have to be you have to be the
(27:23):
bigger person. You have to say, all right, he's already
going through it. The play already happened. There's still game left.
I see a lineman trying to work with him. Consolom
talk to him, you know, coach him up, teach him up.
Let me let that moment be because when you start
getting physical again, you open the door for a response.
People always say this, you'll see this happen. Man, Why
he pushed him. All he did was slap him. Well
(27:45):
you can if you slap me and then not tell
me how to then respond. If I slap somebody, they
very well may punch me. You get what I'm saying you.
The coach now opens the door for a response from
the mercado. That could have went bad. Now they over
here rumbling on the sideline, So be upset. Hit him
on the shoulder pads or something. Come on, baby, stay
in the game. Come on, baby.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I understand that smacking the butt, that's part of the game.
We all know that.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
But once you start coming over yell at me, barking
at me, and you hit me though too. I just
it's just it can lead to something bad. It should
it shouldn't be physical, right. I think we all come
to those too. Many great coaches who had success without it.
Tony Dungee very successful coach. He didn't have to be
going to him and up players, punching on you know,
hitting on players.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Coach k was hitting people. Know what I'm saying. No,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
One of the if anybody, anybody, that's what I'm saying,
I'm trying to say, like that is not the only
way to do it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey, I don't know what they
got going on.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
It's like they can't get fired up to their chest
bump he like, man, look at him, he looked like
he ate good today. Let me go run into him
and jump on his belly real quick. I don't know
what they got. It's like they gotta they can't get
fired up till they yell at each other. But yeah,
I just you can absolutely coach me up, yell at me,
cuss me out, bark at me. You don't have to
get physical. Because my last point on this, Rob, hey man,
(29:03):
you don't know what people have been through, meaning their
triggers and their trauma and hands raised up to people
off you know what I mean, Like I'm about to
swing up man people. You don't know where people are from,
what they've been through and maybe what abuses You don't
just raise up your hand and swing on anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Grown man, Let it on the kid.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
But I'm just saying, because you don't know where they've
been and what triggers them and Tiger, you might get
Tiger up a cut real quick?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Hi, du can Rob? Are you kN Rob? Gu where
are you on this?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Because we were pretty much in lockstep that the physical
part just does not work and and uh, players can't
do it, So why would you allow coaches?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think the team had no choice. To be honest,
I only got one word for y'all to quote the
late great Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Soft. Y'all are soft? You know damn well? This happens
three times a week in the NFL. Where never the
head coach because usually the head coaches, like the CEO,
he's off to the side. There is a defensive line coach,
there is a offensive line coach.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Jerre's a line that stop it. You want rob it
doesn't happen. Show me video of somebody being.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Hit by the records of sidelines.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
The only reason that they did in this case because
Dean Marcado made the dumbest possible play you could in
the professional football.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Patriots got video of sidelines stopped that. Okay, they stopped it.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Everybody who has played sports beyond eighth grade has had
a situation.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You were worked over like fries.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I wouldn't say roughed up like a burger and fries,
but yes, I've been smacked in the back of the helmet.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I have been punched in the chest on wearing pads.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Of course, the worst one, which doesn't sound bad until
you've actually had to happen, is getting hit with the
whistle while you're wearing a helmet, because it vibrates throughout.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Your ears and it gives you like a headache. Yes,
this happens in sports everywhere.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
It is not personal. I don't give a damn about
your trauma. If you're a professional athlete, you are here
to do a job. You are here to help our
team win, and what you did was selfish. And if
you weren't embarrassed enough by what you did. I'm gonna
make sure you know how upset I am because you cost.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Us the game.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
De Mercado, and I don't care that you're crying to
the left tackle because you're the guy who had to
show ball on his way into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I am not a upset the fact that you are
trying to toothless. Why is it that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Jonathan Gannon is getting more of a punishment than De
Marcato A great question.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I'll answer that because you know where players happened on
the field, good or bad. That's the what I do.
I'm the player. I make the plays it happens. You coach,
you don't get physical. Do you have pads on? Do
you have a helmet? Do you come through every night
with the pains and the ages that we do? How
many times do you and I talk about every NFL
player we know? Fingers are twisted going that way, walk
with a lamp, back has broken and gone through it.
(31:58):
I'm out here blissed, wind tears us. Stupid mistake cuts
me out. Find me you can find me. Hey, the game,
yo be finding you. Twenty five thous working on turnovers.
I watched this the first one he came over you.
Because his back is turned, you can but you can
see he kind of hit him. All right, all right, coach,
I got it. You hit me yelling at me, you
barking to me that last little extra hit. Don't get
your last little extra hit on me. I'm a grown man.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I don't even He would rather have been whatever, slapped
in the arm like he was, or cut. Tell me,
I mean that, but that's no because you took away
my livelihood.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Those are.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You have a fourth string running back making like that
and guess what, guess what a guess what a guess
what a possible response is getting cut?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's part of the game.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Told him that, told Rob that when when they cut
the Jets cut the kick off for turning two of them,
two of them, that's just part of the game. Before
stream running back, you do, that's a part of the game.
Guess was not part of the game. And you want
to say, hey, you can't play here. That's a part
of the game. I get that cut release signe. But
new contrapping people around and beating people up.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
It's just funny that they're all up in arms about
what happened. With gann and everything like that, Like you
mentioned Kevin, like, we did not see Travis Kelce do
the exact same thing in reverse, Andy Reid. Did anybody
say we need to find Travis Kelsey one hundred thousand dollars?
How dare he getting Andy Reeed's personal spce. No, they
said he got fired up, he was out of line.
I'm sure they talked about it later.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Well, here's why though they have rapport that they literally
have done this for years now. This was a black
and white situation where you can't put hands on me.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
This is what they do.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
And they chest bump, and they getting each other's face
and chest bump. I said, your first little slap, coach,
all right, I get it. You punched me in a
little co one hit me in the chest. Cool, I
understand it. That second slap you was getting too much.
You was getting off a little too much on that
second slap. Now I mess around, slapped you in the
back of your head when you walked away. Now I'm
looking bad now I got the anger issues why they
slapped the coach.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Let me fined. I'm about to slap rob g when
we get to.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Break here all right, age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,
did you have a problem problem with the Cardinals finding
their head coach for putting hands on a player?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And I just wonder if it just a thousand is
a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I wonder if there's like more of a history, because
one hundred thousand that ain't no chump change for coach.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
And Rob g. Let's go Eagles. They lose first time.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
They had won eighteen in a row, twenty one out
of twenty two, and they lose on Sunday.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
Well, they won ten straight. Jalen Hurts had the eighteen
because remember he didn't finish that game. That's right, j
Jalen Hurts is a different animal. Yes, they lost on
Sunday to the Denver Broncos. And it was a big
game because all last week and in the last couple
of weeks, there's been conversation about the passing offense. AJ
Brown's not happy to mont de Smith's not happy. So
what the Eagles did on Sunday they say, hey, we
(00:59):
are gonna feed are two big wide receivers.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Nice cool job.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
Even though they came in ranked thirty first NFL in passing.
They attempted thirty eight passes on Sunday and ran the
ball just eleven times, and needless to say, it backfire
oncause you mentioned their ten game win streak is no
more than Eagles try to flip the script on their
identity and it backfired in a big way.
Speaker 5 (01:23):
You know, me and you talked about the Eagles rob
a couple of obviously a couple of times over the
last few years, and I can't make out what the
heck the Eagles are other than they're starting to be
a chink in the armor.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
Something's going on with them.
Speaker 5 (01:33):
And I think that last play that held Mary that
they could have caught Davonte Smith looked like he was
actually about to grab it, and AJ Brown said, it
starts to catching the ball. I'm gonna catch Davonte's neck.
It's just body slammed his own teammate to the ground.
And I think that play is more indigative of what
the Eagles are looking like right now internally and externally.
(01:54):
AJ Brown didn't have the wherewithal the sense of say,
Davonte Smith might come down with this, so they both
end up on the ground as a shot of them
just laying on each other at the end of that game.
Something is going on, Robinie. Does it makes sense considering
you know, they're the ragning champs, They've got time together,
same coach and I guess the new coach. They got
the same kind of core, so you would think they'd
be locked and loaded in as far as where they are.
(02:15):
And man, something is off and a couple of things
to know. Number one, the thing they've they've done nothing else.
They've run the ball, right, that's what they do. They
were second all last year averaging one hundred and so
they had an unbelievable running back. What an unbelievable year two?
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Well, as I'm saying one hundred and seventy nine yards. Yeah,
but the defenses are playing different. Sat Quan is not
going to get two thousand.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
You don't need two thousands.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I'm saying more than thirty on six carries in the
second half vers Denver. And something is off right now
with the rushing attack. He's averaging three point one yards
of carry, which is the worst for the Eagles in
like thirty years. So something's going on with the running game.
Which is fine, Okay, you say, Well, like you said,
people are focusing in on the rushing now because that's
what we've done well.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So we're airing it out.
Speaker 5 (02:58):
As Rob Jesus mentioned, their last in passing, they went
a half without a completed pass. They've got a couple
of hands with only seven yards one.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
How many games have they won?
Speaker 5 (03:09):
They're four and one right now, and they're a block
field goal. They don't make that from being worst record.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
They just something. We could sit here all day and
talk about that at all. All block field goals.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
Somebody fumbles, somebody do Oh if the charges, if the
Chargers didn't throw interception, they would be Washington.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
They're doing interception part of the game.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
I don't play and the Eagles don't.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Look I'm not.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Concerned at all because I remember last year and we
can find the tape.
Speaker 3 (03:38):
Yes, you were going into the Super Bowl. Oh, look
at Jalen Hurds. He don't look good. There's something wrong
with them.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
I know you were hoping that, you know, so that
the Lions could beat them or something.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
So you were kind of talking to it because you were.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
Talking down about Jalen Hurts and how he was performing
and he was the weak link. And guess who was
the Super Bowl MVP. It was you thought was the
weak LNGK.
Speaker 5 (04:01):
Let me, let's run a tape. Let's be clear what
I said. My concern with Jalen Hurts, and it still stands.
My concern was if he were in a shootout, could
he pull it off. Not that Jalen Hurts can't win
a game. You don't have to be in a shootout,
but that was my concern. If I have to say,
Jalen Hurts, go win it. Jalen Hurts has gotten the
job done. He's been, he's been, He's had a heck
of a career. I'm not even arguing if I said
(04:23):
to you right now, arguing wrong.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
If I said nothing is wrong, ain't nothing is wrong,
nothing is wrong.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
I can't run the balls. The teams go through this.
You said that about the Steelers.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
The Steelers can't run the ball. Aaron Rodgers is forty one. No,
I'm saying what you said. Hold on, listen to what
I'm saying. You said that earlier. They're three and one
and haven't even played one game at home. My point
is football is very simple. It's about wins and losses.
Stop with the how it looks. How it looks doesn't
(04:57):
you're not total doesn't power looks okay does not.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Let's pull the lose, Let's pull these for in the row.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
Okay, then you could Rob only would say this to
Rob because Rob set up here an entirely last year
knocking the Chiefs who did the exact same thing, knowing
all all season long. No, they did nothing but win
to the two of the six fifteen.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
And one, and then what happened in.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
The super Bowl. All I said happened in super Bowl.
So don't tell me happen.
Speaker 5 (05:28):
Don't tell you what I told you was going to
tire they weren't super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Yes, the entire tason telling me they don't look good.
Speaker 5 (05:37):
Something wrong. I don't like the way they win. This
can't keep winning. You did, they can't keep winning like that.
I don't like that's what you say. So all I'm
saying is no Eagles, something is off with them, because
again I'm not different.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
The difference is on that story is the Eagles have
a track record. They won the Super Bowl, and people
say one.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
One super Bowl and three who has a track record the.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Same thing last year. All I'm telling you is I'm
not I'm not gonna get my pennies.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They lost the game, But you've been looking for a year.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
They've been playing fining for a J. Brown just man
figure it out.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Last year going into the super Bowl that he was
the weak link.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
And now about a great team? You concerned about it
and a great team? And what was the t v P?
Speaker 2 (06:26):
The v P?
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It wasn't the offensive line exactly, wasn't the defensive line.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
It was him and guy?
Speaker 5 (06:32):
You said, And so what's going on when I have
both of my star receivers questioning me? DeVante Smith? Who
doesn't see you? I say, the receivers do? Then you
have that's what they do. Then you have to running back,
and it's about is off with it? E won through
absolutely come I got a stop and they got what
(06:54):
twelve more games to go, and then they got to
go through and something the Eagles. And if you don't
have to buy it, I'll buy it for you. In fact,
I'll buy two packs of it each. Something is off
with them and I don't know what it is, and
I don't know how they remedy it, but they can't
keep their This is not sustainable winning winning these games?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
What does that mean? What are you saying? So?
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What are you saying they're not gonna make the playoffs,
They're not gonna win a division for them, So what
are you saying, not gonna win a super Bowl like this? Okay,
then you can put a stamp on that, on that.
That's easy to say because teams don't repeat. It's hard to.
Speaker 5 (07:29):
Wait, wait, because that's what you said about the Chiefs
the whole entire year, and they're not easy to say that.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
You waste my whole year because I say everybody in
their uncle picked the Chiefers because they.
Speaker 5 (07:39):
Were the super Bowl. Told you, yeah, like they didn't
get to the super Bowl. No, but it didn't matter.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
I told you everywhere you kept picking the lose. It
wasn't gonna.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
I didn't pick them to lose, Rocks. It was twelve names.
I picked every the lines, and.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Twelve times we picked the chief We literally can't no
do know. We do it about big and right. I
don't have that.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
You could go back to the little he did it already,
twelve to no way, I picked twelve times.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Get to chieves.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
He's calling you out, thank you, Fine, it was ten
fix ten. He just said it was it's ten. I
just saw fun because he's on the phone twice, Mary
piped down and how you calling you out?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
Mary.
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Speaker 4 (09:10):
Bill Belichick and UNC they have been a laughing stock
of college football.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Start things off.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You know, their only wins are against the UH We
used to be Division two programs. They just got waxed
by Clemson and Clemson not any good this year.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Either, So WRL.
Speaker 4 (09:23):
Roley, a new station out there, spoke to a bunch
of parents of current players, members of the staff, non
the department, UNC board of trustees, and according to them,
multiple sources with knowledge of the inner workings of Beligicis
program say the results on the field are a product
of a divided locker room, a disorganized coaching staff, and
a failure to communicate. One source called it quote, an
unstructured mess with no culture, no organization, a complete disaster.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
But it gets worse worse.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
According to this report, the experience level and perceived nepotism
with Belichick staff has been frequently called into question. It's
been questioned by players and parents and the media, with
one source saying, quote, the lack of experience the coaches
have is ridiculous in According to sources, there's a board
in the UNC football facility the list people who have
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missed workouts in class. I got to keep accountable, right.
The only problem is some of the guys that were
brought in by Belichick or are seen as close with
his son or other specific staff members show up on
the list but never receive any kind of punishment because
they're seen as Belichick's guys.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
It's all bad for Double B. I'm gonna say here, Kelvin,
could I start?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
Yeah, I think UNC should seriously a bite to bullet
because this is not long term already, you know this
is not going to end well, this is not going
to be good.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
What was the documentary that they pulled the plug on?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Yeah, has already pulled the plug on that, Okay, because
it's a train and that says a lot because normal
people want to watch train wrecks, right, and they just
realize this is a mess here. That's not really worth it.
So it's just a mess. And I brought this up too.
You know, we talked about the nepotism and the cronyism
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and all his boys. This is like a frat party.
I'm a everybody. I know, I'm gonna hook you up.
But we got this job. We're gonna go down to
college take over. I got jobs for everybody, my family,
my friends, all this stuff, and they're no results. They
got a girlfriend again, doesn't fit in right, Like, it's
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a mess in that situation. You have all these issues
and then you're not winning. What do we talk about
winning covers up everything. Winning is the best makeup you
could have. You'll accept anything from anybody as long as
you win.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
When you stop winning.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
It's a problem. And I just don't see this as
long term. They're already got play who are disgruntled, who
will probably bow out other good players are looking at
this saying, what's going on there? Oh there's a mess,
blah blah blah. Do I really want to go there?
How long is he gonna be here? Anyway? If I
go and commit, absolutely this guy, this guy might have
a pork chop dinner and he's not the coach anymore.
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Hey yo, I'm saying he's two poork chops away.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
All right.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
First of all, first of all, there's so many ways.
Let's start with this, rob Let's start with First of all,
UNC should stand for unk.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Unk.
Speaker 5 (12:29):
This ain't it unk? This ain't it unk. The way
you were running this establishment is organization is cool?
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Is not it?
Speaker 5 (12:35):
Let's start from the scratch. He never wanted this job.
Unk didn't want to be here. Unk was trying to
be coaching the NFL team. Ninety nine percent of them
didn't want him. You talked about the Falcons. Maybe did
he that didn't work out. So now he's like, why
I'm gonna go prove I'm gonna show them he didn't
want this.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
What's required.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
He had, he had the Falcon job, and he he
messed around and they pulled it back.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
Yep, and now again he's in this situation with UNC
and didn't want this.
Speaker 3 (13:02):
So let's start there.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Rob g talked about things that you never used to
talk about with Bill Belichick. You never talked about structure issues.
That was what he was great. If he wasn't great
or nothing, he was great at structure. He was great
at you know, the putting in kind of the schematics.
This is what we're gonna do. This is no distract,
no distractions. Just now he is a distraction. His girlfriend's
a distraction. Again that's his personal life, but it is
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a distraction. And I also no accountability, right, it's just
and were hearing in the thing the players he brings in,
there's no accountability. They're missing class. These are things you
would never happen with a Bill Belichick ran team. At
this point, he's just collecting money. He's just collecting money.
Matter of fact, Bill Billimacheck, Bill miancheck is what he's doing.
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How much they owe me? They a ten million this year? Okay,
but Billima check because that's all he's doing right now.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
And you know what, I don't know what it is
or how much it is, Rob g how much is it?
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Think want him twenty millions for him to leave? It
would be twenty at the end of the season. Twenty
at the end of the season.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
Call Michael Jordan, tell them to sell a few extra
shoes and get bail up out of here. Say, you
and I never agree on much. This was something we
agreed on both that this wasn't this.
Speaker 1 (14:08):
Wasn't this just what we didn't do it, and and
they all he has to do is call up Michael
Jordan's say you remember when you left at halftime of
the first game, everybody was here, Okay, yeah, okay, can
you clean this up for us?
Speaker 5 (14:22):
Because Carl Roy Williams, you know who else was there?
It was like a few uh Roy, Randy Moss was there.
It's a handful of the people follow them up.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
All you have to do is say, Mike, can you
sign us two one hundred pair of Jordan's and we'll
auction them off and we'll have the money to pay
this due to get this up out of all. Right, Well,
for sure, that's all of what we.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
Didn't even have to go into his own pocket. Let
me tell you also something else too.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
When you tell me that you pull the show because
of all the controversy and all this stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
So you pull a show.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
When you tell me that you basically can't mention anything
that has to do with the Patriots, you show me
this is already a bad thing. You're supposed to be
so locked into what you're doing. I don't give a
dang about what the Patriots going to honor them, don't honor.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I don't care. We're locked. Brake may played there. He's
one of your That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:06):
But I'm saying for you to like the organization and
the football athletic director and program can't put up. But like,
we're so locked in what we're doing our next opponent,
we don't can think about that. But when you're pulling
shows you're worried about the Patriots, that just lets me
know you're not all the way in. So he wasn't
never in this for the long haul. If at best
it was going to be an allude for his son.
But the way. That's the structured. Now got a bunch
of guys who aren't built for this. College football is
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not the pro football. It's not. It's a different beast.
What's required of you is different. And Bill Belichick is
what seventy one or two?
Speaker 3 (15:34):
How old is he?
Speaker 1 (15:35):
A seventy three? He's the oldest college football coache too.
And it's just he was for.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
The next four years. Network player is going to commit
to him.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
None of us liked it from the jump, and what
you kind of need mac Brown was all but Mack
Brown had personality. Mac Brown had charmed. He had been
in college football for years. This is what I was saying,
like he took this job for his son, that it
was allus. I'm gonna set it up and throw you
to ALLU and now that might crashing down, So it's
just son to get out.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
You've ever.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Take everybody with you, You've ever seen that, you know
that old man, you got that uncle, that that that
that guy who gets the new girl. And all of
a sudden he starts saying, man, let's go hang out.
And he's got a whole new outfit on, his hair
dyed a certain way.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
What are you saying?
Speaker 5 (16:19):
I'm not on talking to you. You just stay strong, right,
you will stay strong, You will be you. I don't
have a new outfit on and you just like his
whole demeanor changes. Used to order beer, now he's ordering
like a martini.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
This is what it is.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
This is Bill Belichick right now. This ain't the Bill
I knew.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
His friends is sitting around right now like, man, this
ain't the Bill I knew, because Bill I know would
have structure, accountability. The Bill I know would give a
dang about no patriots or other than he's locked into
what we do. The Bill I know would have tunnel
vision on how we're gonna win. Man, it's this ain't
the Bill. I This ain't the Bill I know. Bill
just wants to retire.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
I know that, right.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
He just wants to go away. But she's like, no,
come on, You've got more in you. That's still hass.
Prove it to them, baby, you're God Bill. Bill's like,
I'm tired, y'all. I've been coaching football forty five. I'm tired, Boss.
I just want to go home. That's what I'm calling him.
U n C stands for unk right now and UNC Bill.
UNC Bill bellamachek, it's a rap.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
I don't I know. I'm rob g jumping. I'm just curious,
all right, we both think are you with us a lot?
Speaker 5 (17:19):
You know? He loves old people. I do love old people.
I know even I said this was going to be
a train rat. Yet it's like, like, what what were
they thinking? I'm serious, I'm dead serious. What were they thinking?
Speaker 3 (17:29):
And is he seventy three? He's looking it up. It's
something like that.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
But I'm just saying, like my whole idea is the
oldest coach in college football. He's seventy three years old.
What player eighteen year old is going to commit four
years to you?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
And I'm serious, I been thinking about that right like
where it's like, oh, he's had this twenty five if
it was Nick Saban, whos right around? But that's they're
looking you're too younger. That's different. I'm going to play
for Nick Saban and Alabama. Ooh, this is a new Uh.
When it come to our new program, I really don't
know what I'm doing. And I got fifty new players
on my team.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
And then say like you look and you're that player
and you go, okay, look at his girlfriend. This guy's
going to be in traction before mid season.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
I'm just tell you what, Belichick is lucky that he
and his cronies are not as glib as Deion Sanders was,
because they did and said a lot of the same
things that Deon Erth got to Colorado, Mike Lombardi was
going on podcast and interviews talking about where the we're
the ones we're gonna pay everyone for the next level.
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And he was already a difficult personality before he got there,
Like there are people in media who just are not
a fan.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Is so when you take that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Stance at this location and you have all of the
pomp and circumstance, you have the girlfriend causing all these distractions.
You got Vladdie hitting another home run here on TV.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
What I don't understands to him is they do the
same thing over and over, Like this guy has killed you,
So what do you do? You walk the guy? You walked,
but you walked the guy. You gotta go after him.
So if you're going to pitch to him, you can't
have anybody on base. This is an O two pitch
right over the plate, Like like what like, really your shock.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
That he hit it out? Is he an MLB bro. No,
that's tough for you. No, George Springer, let off. He's
an MLB bro. We covered George Springer. He's the only one.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
But anyway, two nothing already, And Yankee fans are probably
sick because this guy.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
Has killed him his three home runs in three games.
You mean Bob Parker is definitely sick Yankee? Yeah, you're
a Yankee. I'm not a Yankee.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
Up.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
I can't I'm telling you right now, I can't wait.
Let me report hopefully. That's why my name is on
that press box, not in the stand. I can't hear
in peace up there. Hey Rob Rogerie, I hope it's
another thirty years, but dang it, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
At your funeral, I'm gonna say your lost Ron Parker
the biggest Yankee Frian I knew who. That's exactly how
I'm starting to think it ain't gonna be. It's gonna
be the you know I'm putting it. I'm taking a Yankee.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
You better him, Spike Lee jay Z. I'm gonna plant
you right next to Billy Crystal. Are you kidding?
Speaker 1 (20:23):
It would be unbelievable. Family would attack you right there
if you were to try to paint me as that we're.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Gonna lie the inside of the coffin with his stripes
on the underside, and then the top is gonna be
like a dueling jersey of Lamar Jackson and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
And as you're walking into the recess here, it's up
to you. No organ either, just this song at the funeral.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
But man, Rob was my man. You know, we had
a great show together. I used to love spending time
in this press box. That that song is good though,
Oh yeah, that that nice a banger. If I feel
like I put a Yankee cap on and some Timberlands
when I hear that song, I know everybody's from New York.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
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Speaker 5 (21:21):
Rob g So Cardinals. We were talking about the play
that the coach made that you know, the receiver dropped
the ball. Well it happened again obviously this past Sunday
as well. Was frustrated the head coach and now a
lot of people saw the video that came out all
over to social media, right and then now it's the
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team has come down on the coach.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
That's right now a Mari di Mercado, who you wouldn't
expect to know his name were not for this play,
right he breaks free, he'ze a four string running back
seventy yard touchdown. Right as he's crossing the end zone plane,
he drops the ball touched back. Titans get the ball back.
They eventually win the game, which is a just the bonup.
So it was already he was persona non grade there
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for about twenty four hours, and then someone on social
media leaked a video of the sideline interaction between he
and Jonathan Gannon. Now de Marcartero looks like he's about
to cry, like his offensive line.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Is holding him up.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
He's really being consoled, and Gannon runs up on him
in a fit of rage, yelling in his face, which
he's entitled to, and then on his way past him,
it looks almost like either he slaps or he punches
De Marcado's arm, and that's what set things into a tizzy,
and it ultimately led to the Arizona Cardinals dropping a
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one hundred thousand dollars fine on their head coach. Well,
once that news became public, we have seen a slew
of NFL players former players mostly chime in on the situation,
most notably y Had des Bryant said, I don't agree
with the fine whatsoever, says quote, I believe it only
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happened because of the soft ass world we live in today.
If you're an athlete with any kind of integrity in
respect for the game, you'll understand this situation. That's led
to a bunch of different responses from a few notable players,
including Marcus Spears I believe he was on ESPN says, no,
little brody, keep your hands off.
Speaker 3 (23:15):
People. If you thought a coach costs you a game
and you hemmed him up, they cruciand you thank you.
Speaker 4 (23:20):
And Lurice Jones Drew, former pro bowler now I think
works with the Rams, said to hell with the fine.
He should be fired immediately for putting his hands on it.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
And you know what, thank God for those players.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
I'm serious Kelvin who spoke out because if the roles
were reverse and somebody joked up Pete Carroll for having
that call to calls from the Super Bowl, right, Richard
Sherman's man or whatever, they went up and pimp slap
Pete carroll around like, what was that. You wouldn't be
in the league, right, you would be suspended, you would
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be all that. You could be yell at people. That's
a part of coaching. You can't be physical. Remember tom
Izzo was physical with player and he got people came
down on him. It ain't about the warsification of America.
Everybody's sawt No, it's not acceptable. None used to beat
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the crap out of kids. Okay, you can't do that anymore.
Speaker 3 (24:23):
Parents are for that. That's not egic. That's not teaching
anybody anything.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
You could get your point across without being physical, right,
that's all your parent.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
There's a way of doing it.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
I'm not saying that kids don't deserve to get spanked
for certain situations, but you're not coming upside the kid's
head every time they do misstake, a misstep, and.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
The same thing.
Speaker 1 (24:49):
La Trou's pretty well yoked up. PJ called listenmo go
look and see right, don't drummed out the league. If
that was PJ doing it to call listener, oh, it
would have been Oh, these guys are solved. They can't
take hard coaching. That was with is Oo's a yeller.
Don't touch the kid. I don't care. I care about
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these kids. I'm trying to get them to be man. No,
don't be physical because if somebody yoked you, it would
be a problem. Yep, stop with this. Every time somebody
don't want to get yoked up, it's because everything's soft. Now,
that's not true. We're smarter than we ever have been.
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We're more educated. We understand on how these things are,
and stuff that was doing done in the past isn't
necessarily the best way, and things have evolved. We don't
do the same things we.
Speaker 3 (25:45):
Used to do. Stop it. No, listen, there's a couple
of things you just mentioned. You touched on it.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Things evolve, right, I'm gonna give you example Bobby Knight.
The stuff Bobby Knight did back in the seventh He's
an eighties rapping for players up, you know, himming them up,
choking and got away with him god, throwing chairs on
the court.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
All that would never.
Speaker 5 (26:08):
Fly in twenty twenties, in twenty twenty five. So things
do evolve. I'm gonna give you another one. A legendary
coach who back in nineteen seventy eight went over and
himmed up and punched the opposing player, Woody Hayes.
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Do you remember that, yep?
Speaker 5 (26:22):
On the sidelines, Woody Hayes went up to a clips
of player, hemmed him up, punched him up.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
My point is again, and I get it. I understand.
Speaker 5 (26:29):
Some people say, man, if Woody Hayes paid the price
for that, did it never never caught coached again and
all that. So I bring up those instances and say,
I understand back in the day things happen, this is
how it was. But to me, you can't put yourself
in a position again where Now if demccardo reacts what
it Rob g said, if you look at the video,
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he's emotional, He's got like a lineman consoling him.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
I'm going through it.
Speaker 5 (26:53):
I'm embarrassed, I'm upset, I'm frustrated myself. I feel guilty,
I'm shameful. And you come over here and make matter worse,
and then you put your.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
Hands on me.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
What if I swing on you now, just as I'm
already in that bad emotional state, now you come put
your hand all on my chest, you know, swing on
me like that, and now I punch just out of
natural reaction. Now I'm the bad guy. Now, maybe the
league comes down on me. The league would come down
on now as two game, three games, four games, to
spend whatever it would be. So yeah, I think I
think coaches have to be you have to be the
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bigger person. You have to say, all right, he's already
going through it. The play already happened. There's still game left.
I see a lineman trying to work with him. Consolom
talk to him, you know, coach him up, teach him up.
Let me let that moment be because when you start
getting physical again, you open the door for a response.
People always say this, you'll see this happen. Man, Why
he pushed him. All he did was slap him. Well
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you can if you slap me and then not tell
me how to then respond. If I slap somebody, they
very well may punch me. You get what I'm saying you.
The coach now opens the door for a response from
the mercado. That could have went bad. Now they over
here rumbling on the sideline, So be upset. Hit him
on the shoulder pads or something. Come on, baby, stay
in the game. Come on, baby.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
I understand that smacking the butt, that's part of the game.
We all know that.
Speaker 5 (28:07):
But once you start coming over yell at me, barking
at me, and you hit me though too. I just
it's just it can lead to something bad. It should
it shouldn't be physical, right. I think we all come
to those too. Many great coaches who had success without it.
Tony Dungee very successful coach. He didn't have to be
going to him and up players, punching on you know,
hitting on players.
Speaker 3 (28:26):
Coach k was hitting people. Know what I'm saying. No,
that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
One of the if anybody, anybody, that's what I'm saying,
I'm trying to say, like that is not the only
way to do it.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey, I don't know what they
got going on.
Speaker 5 (28:41):
It's like they can't get fired up to their chest
bump he like, man, look at him, he looked like
he ate good today. Let me go run into him
and jump on his belly real quick. I don't know
what they got. It's like they gotta they can't get
fired up till they yell at each other. But yeah,
I just you can absolutely coach me up, yell at me,
cuss me out, bark at me. You don't have to
get physical. Because my last point on this, Rob, hey man,
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you don't know what people have been through, meaning their
triggers and their trauma and hands raised up to people
off you know what I mean, Like I'm about to
swing up man people. You don't know where people are from,
what they've been through and maybe what abuses You don't
just raise up your hand and swing on anybody.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Grown man, Let it on the kid.
Speaker 5 (29:21):
But I'm just saying, because you don't know where they've
been and what triggers them and Tiger, you might get
Tiger up a cut real quick?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
Hi, du can Rob? Are you kN Rob? Gu where
are you on this?
Speaker 1 (29:32):
Because we were pretty much in lockstep that the physical
part just does not work and and uh, players can't
do it, So why would you allow coaches?
Speaker 3 (29:42):
I think the team had no choice. To be honest,
I only got one word for y'all to quote the
late great Kobe Bryant.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Soft. Y'all are soft? You know damn well? This happens
three times a week in the NFL. Where never the
head coach because usually the head coaches, like the CEO,
he's off to the side. There is a defensive line coach,
there is a offensive line coach.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
Jerre's a line that stop it. You want rob it
doesn't happen. Show me video of somebody being.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Hit by the records of sidelines.
Speaker 4 (30:14):
The only reason that they did in this case because
Dean Marcado made the dumbest possible play you could in
the professional football.
Speaker 3 (30:20):
Patriots got video of sidelines stopped that. Okay, they stopped it.
Speaker 4 (30:26):
Everybody who has played sports beyond eighth grade has had
a situation.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
You were worked over like fries.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I wouldn't say roughed up like a burger and fries,
but yes, I've been smacked in the back of the helmet.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I have been punched in the chest on wearing pads.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
Of course, the worst one, which doesn't sound bad until
you've actually had to happen, is getting hit with the
whistle while you're wearing a helmet, because it vibrates throughout.
Speaker 3 (30:52):
Your ears and it gives you like a headache. Yes,
this happens in sports everywhere.
Speaker 4 (30:58):
It is not personal. I don't give a damn about
your trauma. If you're a professional athlete, you are here
to do a job. You are here to help our
team win, and what you did was selfish. And if
you weren't embarrassed enough by what you did. I'm gonna
make sure you know how upset I am because you cost.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
Us the game.
Speaker 4 (31:16):
De Mercado, and I don't care that you're crying to
the left tackle because you're the guy who had to
show ball on his way into the end zone.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
I am not a upset the fact that you are
trying to toothless. Why is it that.
Speaker 4 (31:31):
Jonathan Gannon is getting more of a punishment than De
Marcato A great question.
Speaker 5 (31:36):
I'll answer that because you know where players happened on
the field, good or bad. That's the what I do.
I'm the player. I make the plays it happens. You coach,
you don't get physical. Do you have pads on? Do
you have a helmet? Do you come through every night
with the pains and the ages that we do? How
many times do you and I talk about every NFL
player we know? Fingers are twisted going that way, walk
with a lamp, back has broken and gone through it.
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I'm out here blissed, wind tears us. Stupid mistake cuts
me out. Find me you can find me. Hey, the game,
yo be finding you. Twenty five thous working on turnovers.
I watched this the first one he came over you.
Because his back is turned, you can but you can
see he kind of hit him. All right, all right, coach,
I got it. You hit me yelling at me, you
barking to me that last little extra hit. Don't get
your last little extra hit on me. I'm a grown man.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I don't even He would rather have been whatever, slapped
in the arm like he was, or cut. Tell me,
I mean that, but that's no because you took away
my livelihood.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Those are.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You have a fourth string running back making like that
and guess what, guess what a guess what a guess
what a possible response is getting cut?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
That's part of the game.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Told him that, told Rob that when when they cut
the Jets cut the kick off for turning two of them,
two of them, that's just part of the game. Before
stream running back, you do, that's a part of the game.
Guess was not part of the game. And you want
to say, hey, you can't play here. That's a part
of the game. I get that cut release signe. But
new contrapping people around and beating people up.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
It's just funny that they're all up in arms about
what happened. With gann and everything like that, Like you
mentioned Kevin, like, we did not see Travis Kelce do
the exact same thing in reverse, Andy Reid. Did anybody
say we need to find Travis Kelsey one hundred thousand dollars?
How dare he getting Andy Reeed's personal spce. No, they
said he got fired up, he was out of line.
I'm sure they talked about it later.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
It is what it is.
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Well, here's why though they have rapport that they literally
have done this for years now. This was a black
and white situation where you can't put hands on me.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
This is what they do.
Speaker 5 (33:34):
And they chest bump, and they getting each other's face
and chest bump. I said, your first little slap, coach,
all right, I get it. You punched me in a
little co one hit me in the chest. Cool, I
understand it. That second slap you was getting too much.
You was getting off a little too much on that
second slap. Now I mess around, slapped you in the
back of your head when you walked away. Now I'm
looking bad now I got the anger issues why they
slapped the coach.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
Let me fined. I'm about to slap rob g when
we get to.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Break here all right, age seven, seven ninety nine on Fox,
did you have a problem problem with the Cardinals finding
their head coach for putting hands on a player?
Speaker 3 (34:04):
And I just wonder if it just a thousand is
a lot of money.
Speaker 5 (34:07):
I wonder if there's like more of a history, because
one hundred thousand that ain't no chump change for coach.
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