November 22, 2025 • 28 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether it's fair to say that Shedeur Sanders has been getting a raw deal in Cleveland, tell us why they believe Draymond Green is one of the biggest hypocrites in sports, and argue whether the new Los Angeles Lakers owners made a mistake by not axing Jeanie Buss when they got rid of her two younger brothers.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Another odds is that Sador Sanders isn't gonna make the
Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
How's that? That is good? That's another one? Very Good's
very good. I don't know the way to Pro bowlill
be going. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Let him have two more good games, two games the
rest of the season. He might be one good game
with the fawn slow down.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
When I said, he's gonna have to really do better
than gee, people in Cleveland got their wish, They got
their made.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Did Shador Sanders played an entire half of football for
the Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Browns, and he looked horrible?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
All right, four for sixteen passing forty seven yards.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Don't forget he completed his first two. He did so.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
We actually finished two or fourteen there at the end
with an interception and a thirteen and a half passer rating.
He was sacked twice, including a sack fumble, thankfully recovered
by his own team, so it wasn't a second turnover.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
He also had one intentional grounding call.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Guys, His thirteen and a half passer rating marked the
lowest passer rating by any player with at least fifteen
attenph a NFL debut since the immortal Brandon Whedon and
twelve who even Shador himself, despite what your favorite NFL
reporter will say, said, he had a rough game.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
It was a tough game. All bad in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, unless you want to blame everybody other than Shador,
which is the conversation going around, even the guys like
Rex Ryan I saw and the issue I had saying
I had to put on my son.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I was waiting. I was like, look at you are
not talking about his teeth? Heard a new leaf. I
don't know who you are right now. I put the sun. Okay,
now that feels right now, so I can at least
look at him.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But my point is he's talking about all about you know,
how they prepared him or didn't get him any stabs
and how like like he didn't he couldn't explain it.
But he said it was weird or strange. I can't
remember exactly the word that he used. Dan Orlosky, who
played a long time as a backup, See now it
(02:26):
ain't I didn't get snaps. And I was a veteran
guy who was a backup for a long time. I
didn't get snaps with the first team. It did, it
didn't happen. So I guess it's different depending on the
coach and the organization or whatever. And people have just
forgot that these are two young quarterbacks drafted the same draft.
You want to get and I mentioned it's the TJ.
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You want to get Dylan Gabriel as many snaps as
you can to get him. If you picked him, you
drafted him third and should do a fifth. And then
the other thing, too, is if the roles were reversed
and Shadoor was named the star, they got a concussion
and Dylan Gabriel came in and had that performance, people
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would say he can't play.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And you know what I mean, Oh, look did you
see see?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I told you he can't play like that is the
conversation that I'm convinced people will have. And I understand
people have a soft spot for Shadoor because of Dion,
And it does because if his name was Joe Smith,
it wouldn't be the same. It's because it's Dion's kids
and people like Dion and for a good reason. Okay,
(03:32):
Dion was a Hall of Fame football player, played Major
League Baseball, hit a home run and scored a touchdown
and again in the same day for two different teams
and two different major league sports. Like he's that guy.
But to just pin it and say it's because of
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not getting reps or fumbling the ball or you know,
or whatever it is, because had he drove the team
down and scored the touchdown at the end, no one
would have brought up about not having the snaps and
all the other stuff that people use.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It would have been like, see, I told you we
could play. Look at what he did.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He beat the Ravens, he marched down the field, whatever, whatever,
like it was set up for Shador to do that
and and and have a chance to have a different conversation,
but it didn't. It didn't materialize, and there was a
lot of stuff that didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
My point is just this for people to think that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Uh Stefanski and the brain trust at the Browns have
come up with a scheme so that Shador can't succeed.
It is ludicrous to me. It's against everything that goes
into sports where an organization hasn't been able to find
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a quarterback and developed one or whatever in a long time.
And it just doesn't make any sense. If that kid
really was the real deal, they would have put him
in and I and I can't for the life of
me not think of Tom Brady and the Raiders, Like, seriously,
this is somebody who worked with Shador who claims to
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be you know, a mentor right to Chador.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Gino? Is that really?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Should okay?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like they wanted no part of him, and they could
have easily had him a couple times in the draft.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So I looked at it. Am I saying he can't play.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Of course he can play play major college football, But
stop making excuses for Shador. Guess what? Just forget about
everything else and just look at his play. He played poorly.
There's no other way up that you could look at it.
He played poorly.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Period.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think two things can be true. I think he played.
Let me not say that he played poorly. I don't
think he did play poorly. He left. And what's crazy.
I was talking Robb g about this, that touchdown opportunity
he had if he hits that receiver in the end
zone there who had a nice distance between and the defender.
That changes things, right, because then you stop looking at
the completion percentage. You say, hey, they're right back in
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this thing. I don't remember if they would have had
a lead at that point, but it'd have been right.
They would have tied the game up right there. Big
play was like, yeah, it was a moment he missed
that throw. You that has what were watching? I think
off camera you said Gino Smith had an opportunity. You're like, man,
he's got to make that throw in the end zone.
You gotta make those throws. Those are what pro quarterbacks do.
So he played miserably for most of that game. Had
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a few plays here or there that were, you know,
some nice plays, some couple completions. You know, way he
checked down a couple of times. It's okay, there's some
things that left desirable. However, the other side of this
is there is something to be thrown in in a
second half when you never have gotten snaps and Cam
Newton had this to say, kind of as a quarterback
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and with his ex you brought it up each team
might be different. Here's what he said his experience being
the starter, but what it was like for his backup.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
This is the thing that really irks me the most
is because he doesn't get any reps circa twenty fifteen
circle when Cam Newton was the MVP, CIRCA when hey.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
My nobody need know that majority of.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
My career was probably the biggest blessing of my career.
To have a veteran in Derek Anderson Ron Rivera still
knew we're one playaway kid from you not being available.
We would have anywhere from six to twelve reps in
every single practice. That allowed Derek to still have an
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ability to say, hey, if it goes how it goes,
not granted.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
So I'm gonna say, well, Cam, you played the position
any different? Well, what is that to say about properity?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, what is that to say about any other quarterback
that's here?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You plan for the what if in this league. So
you brought up a great point.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I believe if we ask thirty two teams there would
be something that will say I never got snapped.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I completely agree. And he played for the line for
a long time making that story up.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Rob g talking every with the old joke about what
they Peyton Manning. They're basically saying his backup never gets
many reps. They said why, they said, uh, because if
eighteen go out, we're screwed, essentially the paraphrase, then keep
my job. So I do think organizations are different, but
it makes this one strange to me. Is Dylan Gabriel
you say needs all the snaps? I say, hasn't wowed
me to the point if I'm them saying where we
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should be giving both snaps to just just a few,
just a few, Dylan Gabriels our starter, you get a
few because you're both rookies.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We're both trying to see what you got to see
who our guy is.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They start in practice, though, I want to want to
watch him go up against the ones, is what I'm saying. So, Dylan,
you're starting, that's not a question. You are a starter.
You're getting ninety five ninety ninety five. We want to
see just a few, because hey, you'r rookiees not You're
not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Will we know goodwill
you are everything. You might have a bad two three
game strets. We want to see what this guy has.
(09:05):
So I'm more shocked than they haven't given him a
few reps just simply because Dylan Gabroe is your quarterback,
and that means you don't have a quarterback as of
right now because he hasn't played that great. He still
deserves to be a starter. I'm not saying as long
as he's healthy. Also, it'll be interesting. You brought it
up with the people being like, man, something going on
with this team or they it is something about it
just feels like they.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Almost have buyer remorse immediately.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Maybe it's justifiable, maybe there's something to you, Maybe it's practice,
Maybe they don't like the man or stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
He says. I don't know, but it does feel like.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
They could cut him if they really like, like, sir,
what are they holding on for?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Seriously?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well no, no, no, no, but I'm just they could
cut him. Yeah, it ain't about selling no jersey. You
sold all the jeergy you want to. You're done with that.
If it was about a pousong, he's not playing. We
don't even talk about him up until his point because
he wasn't playing, so you didn't get any extra juice.
If you really don't want the guy in the building
or don't want him, or you looked at it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That's what you were like, he's here, but we're not
young ho about it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
That's what it feels. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But I'm just saying the idea that you would you
would have a talent in your building and ignore him
because you're trying there's some bigger power or some bigger
oh you know, because for all the people, and you
were one of them, Oh this doesn't make sense to me,
you know, and all this and and and there's conspiracy
(10:29):
or whatever. And then you find out that teams did call,
and they and he said, I don't want to go
to Baltimore. I don't want to go to Philly. I
don't want to go to teams that have starting call. Well,
well that's why he kept dropping. But but but but
but people were saying it was because they were trying
to make make a point or the league was trying
(10:50):
to say, you know what I mean, like put him
in his place.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The Ravens called for him.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'm just saying, because the Ravens actually and you're gonna
sit behind Lamar Jackson. Which is the irony is that
this would have been he would have started because Lamar
missed a handful of games. But the Ravens are an
organization that have done things differently. Look, they took Lamar
and Philly, and those are both teams that have a quarterback.
I had some you know, have had They took in
Mike Vick some years ago. They don't mind maybe some
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of the what comes with that, So that might have
been his own, you know, doing to not want to
go and back up those guys because they look at
their projected starters for a year to go.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But but people made it that the NFL sent out
the word not to draft him.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
But that doesn't make.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sense that actually, but we get that explanation later at
least makes sense because there had to be some explanation
why guy that for a long time was talking in
as the first rounder, Okay, maybe a second rounder third
dropped on the fourth to fifth. So at least that
even if that's what happened, that makes sense. There's some
type of exclination as to how we got to know, but.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Didn't they If the NFL wanted to put the cop botch,
he would have been drafted at all. I don't I
don't understand why would he be drafted at all if
they wanted to put him in his play.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I still believe that there are people who didn't like
his disposition, Not that they're saying he done didn't need
to be drafted, but I don't there's something about him
I don't like or I don't like his disposition, his attitude.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Still the NFL quarterback and he's in the game, I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So I want to see if he gets his first
starter position, where he gets the one snap, So I
want to see what that looks like.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
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Speaker 5 (12:31):
Earlier today, it was announced by the league and reported
by ESPN Sports.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Just try to pick your favorite thing.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Same thing that Draymond Green was issued a warning not fine,
this time for a viral interaction he had with the
fan on Sunday night. I know you probably miss because
lot of NFL actionally went on on Sunday, But during
their game on Sunday, Draymond Green got into it with
a fan who was courtside, and after Birds told the
(13:01):
media that The reason why he got into it was
the guy made a good joke at first, but you
can't keep calling me a woman. I got four kids,
one on the way, you can't keep calling me a woman.
Well we found out after the fact because the fan
told us I'm a.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Woman that the Empeltis had no issue.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
The impetus behind the whole back and forth was not
that he was calling him a woman or calling him
a B word or anything like that. No, he was
calling him Angel Reese over and over exactly because Draymond
Green had a portion during the game where he got
multiple offensive rebounds and smoked multiple layups a la Angel Reese's.
And that was the empetthis on the whole thing again,
(13:40):
No fine, but a stern talking to for Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And you know what, they probably should have find them,
but I but I get it. I'll say this, Draymond
Green is the biggest hypocrite in the National Basketball Association.
He's the biggest baby. He's the one who goes after
people all the time. He's the one always bumping his
(14:04):
gums and you know, and all this stuff. And he's
a big baby that somebody who paid their money, who's
sitting in great seats right where he can hear him from.
He not in the rafters. He's all the way down front.
Calls him Angel reats and he gets his panties in
a bunch. Really, oh, that guy's out of bounds. He
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should have said, hey, uh, Draymond, Uh, you know you
make me sick because you have a beautiful wife, you
make multimillions of dollars, and you have four kids with
one on the way, But you make me sick. That
is that the heckling that he wanted? Does he understand
how heckling works? I mean, this wasn't disrespectful, This wasn't racist.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
There's nothing wrong with that. It's it's a propos. I'm
about to like, dude.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, because we know Angel reats with the me bounds,
you know, like she take nine shots and get eight
rebounds off of it to me bound, I get it.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
It was actually clever. What's the first word? Clever?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You're gonna take too long when you guys, Yeah, clever.
You know I said that was actually clever. Roy haven't
running back ready. I always got to wait a minute.
I gotta put the glass on and going.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Let me see.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, you can see Okay, there clever. That was clever.
You know what the fan did, rob he kept it basketball.
Literally he called him a basketball player. Now is she
a woman yet? But he called him a hooper who
does similar things? And what if people said about angel
Reice's game, Wow, she kind of plays like a female Draymond, right,
(15:39):
great defense, talks, a little smack, tough, canim make a layer?
Speaker 7 (15:42):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Rebound? Me bounds as well?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So that was a clever heckling that was actually basketball
as well, and to me and bye by doing it,
he actually insinuates to me, and it kind of insults
Angelice as if that was like so insulting to call
me angel Rea.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It's another hooper? Like what it better?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He mentioned, Oh why he couldn't call me Lisa Leslie
like so to me and even being a hypocritical about this,
a hypocrite, you didn't insult to injuries.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Let's continue some things.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
What didn't you and I talk about Draymond a few
weeks ago because he called a professional football player who
has been an MVP candidate a bum.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
He called Dak Post his mouth and now somebody calls
him hooper exactly, and that fit what it happened.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
In that game.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's apropos. I literally wrote. He kept it basketball and
it was apropos. You missed a bunch of layups like
she has done at times, and to score a layup,
missed a bunch, got a bunch of rebounds, puts it in.
You literally did that. Injuries has done that. She can
not again.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You now to mention again, this is a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
He didn't call you a name, He didn't call you
a a something else. He didn't call you a B word.
Oh did I mentioned you've called people your teammates a
B word. So I just from a guy who has
stumped people, kicked people in the key uiz punch.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
People call people names always in trouble.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So just called a pro athlete who he knows what
it's like to be a pro athlete.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You know what it's like a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know what it's like to have the spotlight on you.
And you called Dak Prescott a bum. This is crazy
to me that this is what God is. Panties in
a bunch. But then I probably shouldn't say panties because
then now I'm calling humber one by saying that, I'm
just you know, it's just a big that's true. But
I'm just blown away by that. Like Draymond, you've been
in so many competitive games. You're from where you're from,
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from Saginaw, You're from Michigan. You know how tough Saganaw
is played in Michigan State, played in the league.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's what got you roued up. It's just so ridiculous.
This is who he if he.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Said he called you their dead family member or something,
and that, Okay, I get it, I get it, angel
Rees when you literally did an angel Rees move.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's just but the whole idea, like like this is
what fans do. They heckle you. You know why they
heckle you because you matter. When you don't matter, nobody
heckles a guy who doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Is different, rob as you're mentioned and then disrespect right,
it's a heckle.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Boo, you suck, boo, you missus sean air ball. That's heckling.
That's a part of the experience. And all they want
to do is get your attention, and you gave them
your attention rather than acting like it didn't hear it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It's so easy to ignore.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's what most professionals do. They just ignore it.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
If there's something racist or something really cross the stream, kids,
that's something different. This was basketball, this was the sports experience,
and for him to get all worked up makes no
sense to me.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Sager put the camera on me hitting dogs holler, and
he was embarrassed that he did exactly what the person
was calling him out about.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Injuries.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
From time to time has been known to miss bunch
of layups, get the rebound missing, and put it back in.
He did exactly that. So that's why it's stung rob
because that's exactly what he was. He was pre performed
like an Atla Ree sequence and he was upset about that.
But how can you get mad when somebody calls you
a professional basketball player?
Speaker 8 (19:07):
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Speaker 4 (19:08):
Make it make sense? None of it makes sense, all right?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
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Speaker 1 (19:20):
And you know the apology is coming, right, yeah, because
that's what it ainything by it, because not as if
Angel Rees is a bad player, he leads the league
in apologies. It's coming, My bad. I didn't really see
it like that. I was just saying that I was
a female. You don't it's coming.
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Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah. Man, but there's some news Lakers are there.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Basically, we knew when owner Mark Walters bought the team
that there could be some changes. When would it happened,
How would it happened? Who had happened to you? And
now there's some big changes. So they're reshuffling the deck
there in the basketball department, and the fired executives Joey
and Jesse Buss from their respective front office positions that
they have effective immediately, and they went on to say
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that they're extremely honored to have been a part of
this organization for the last twenty years. And they also
said thank you to the Laker nation blah blah blah.
But you can expect with that. But I do think
was interesting is they said this Rob and this part
of our conversation, Doctor Buss's idea their father was for
Joey and I to run basketball operations one day. That's
what Jesse told Seam Serrani and referring to the father,
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and he said, but Jeannie has effectively kept herself in
place with her siblings fired, so we got a little
succession going on like the TV show in real life.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I'm just gonna say this, the Lakers didn't do enough
for me because Jeanie Buss should have been.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Fired with the brothers as well. And what Yeah, I'm
dead serious.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Once they've already taken the Bus family took the ten
billion dollars. And people have to understand everybody who owns
a team is not super rich.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And I'm not saying a lot of people don't get that.
They don't get that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You think, oh, you own the Lakers, Oh my god,
all of them are you're printing money?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
You got all this money?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No, that was the Bus family fit family business.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yep, that's the main They're not Steve Balmer where this
is my fun pet project.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Right, two hundred billion would.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
A b and this is just fun something to do.
It puts me out there. My name is out there exactly. No,
the Lakers were the Buses family business yep. And and
I don't I don't know the whole idea or the
whole idea that you sell a team to somebody and
you expect to still have a job there or work
(22:47):
there or collect money as pay. You got paid, your
family got paid, they got the ten billion. If you
want to be in the basketball business, then you shouldn't
have sold. Just like Mark Q, I want another seat
at the table. What if that doesn't make any sense
to me? It really doesn't, dude, what you sell for
(23:08):
the Bus family enough, the people who won the organization,
who bought the team right of the Dodger people, get
your own people. You don't need Genie Bus anymore. And
it does feel weird. And I'm not siding with the brothers,
but doesn't it feel weird?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
What?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
What?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Why didn't Genie get the red get the pink slip
as well?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Seriously? So here's my answer to that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I believe Genie Buss is the singular face of the
Lakers outside of you know, the players, obviously Luca Lebron
and you know, God bless her dead Kobe Scheck. But
when you think of it, organizationally, nobody really thinks of
Ropelinka except obviously Laker fans. But when you think of
it as a whole, like nationwide, I think even even
(23:51):
in LA she's endeared. You've been the games, You've seen
how fans. She's like the one person fans are cool with.
Even when the team's in the dumps, She's the one
person is like a family member.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
She's like, all right, now, this team, they're struggling, But Geenie,
come on, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
People have love for her because they literally have seen
her grow up from a teenager being a part of
this team. So I think she's there for ceremonial like
the heart of that to do that, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
But I'm just telling you what.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You're there because I don't think she's going to be
part of the real basketball operations.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
She doesn't need to be there at all. I don't agree.
I don't disagree without need. I'm telling you what I
think they're doing it for.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But not one Laker fan is going to lose any
sleep that Genie Bust doesn't have an office with the
Lakers or whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
They understand, how bus is they dis agree. Nobody cares
about Jeanie Bust.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
She's old newsency, tingency of fans who still want a
connection to the good old days, the bus Family to
showtime Lakers, and they want to have that. She's not
going to be overly involved in the basketball operations. So
what's the point then, ceremonia. It's you wanted to be
a mascot, is what you're telling me. You wanted to
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be a mascot. Why don't you go down put a mascot,
go down there and walk around and throw t shapes
at it? And you know, and you know people do
that all the time, like Magic Johnson when he was
prior to when he finally when he was a president
for those couple of years.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He's magic is a part of it. But he's magic.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You feel comfortable, you feel good having around and he,
by the way, is someone there speculating he got Rodney
Pete obviously a friend of both of ours, who had
put out on his show A M five to seventy
out here in LA that you know, he wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Be shocked if Magic has some I don't know what
that means. He wouldn't be shocked. Is Magic gonna do something?
Just tell you what Rodney said? What do you want
from me? That you know? And also Stan Caston, who
is president Operation Stan Casting used to run the Hawks.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Stan Caston knows basketball and he stand based up Dodgers
and he'd been with the Braves. Stan Caston could easily
he easily easily handle both because that's what he's done.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
He was. I remember Stan Casting from the old days
with the Hawks.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yep, he has been all over. He's done a million
different things. So for those who kind of n't familiar
with them, you know, we mentioned it, the Braves, the Hawks,
the Dodgers. He's just really good at putting a team
together day to day, understanding the you know, the the
overall like what you're trying to do and accomplished. So
Stan Casting, who was with the part ownership of the Dodgers,
so part owner means he's with Mark Walter and uh
(26:20):
and also Magic part owner the Dodgers with Mark Walter.
It would not surprise me if they start to slowly
bring over the team that has now got three rings
and what five six years has been in the playoffs.
Really made this this team a great organization over the
last decade or so, so that would not shock me there.
But again with the genie buzz point, I just think
there's a hint of familiarity a hint of glory days
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years past, a hint of something that Laker fans LA
fans people can say, I remember that as opposed to
like a hostile takeover, where it's like, hey, oh hold
on now, so I now not longer that lasts got
a hostile takeover. You if you're used to the bus
you didn't lose team. I ain't lying. The money is great,
I'm saying on the fan base looking at ownership, and
(27:05):
if everything they had to do with the Lakers past
was gone, I could see some Laker fans.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Being who owned the team before the Bus Family? Do
you know? Yeah, okay, there you go. That's what I
was gonna say, right the bus bend. Oh, this is
nineteen seventy nine. Don't nobody remember all that? What do
you mean nineteen seventy nine and one hundred years ago?
Rock I wasn't born, Jack, I wasn't born. You don't
have to be born. You know who the president of
the first president of the United States was. You weren't
born then? You know? Uh, all right, what Barack Obama ball?
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I wasn't born.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Jack can't cook and they okay, when the Bus Family
took over, he didn't have to stay on.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
He sold your team come on, because he was the body,
because he wasn't doing nothing within it. They wasn't winning.
Did the le eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We're gonna be me and you'll be fired up. It's
trash soccer too. You want to leave me like a
TV team? So on Thursday, that's all right.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You see, they knew, they knew, the gods, God knew
not to have me next you.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Right now, we'd be rumpling in this dude, he'd be
some furniture moving up in there.
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Speaker 2 (00:19):
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Speaker 3 (00:25):
Another odds is that Sador Sanders isn't gonna make the
Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
How's that? That is good? That's another one? Very Good's
very good. I don't know the way to Pro bowlill
be going. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
Let him have two more good games, two games the
rest of the season. He might be one good game
with the fawn slow down.
Speaker 4 (00:42):
When I said, he's gonna have to really do better
than gee, people in Cleveland got their wish, They got
their made.
Speaker 5 (00:49):
Did Shador Sanders played an entire half of football for
the Cleveland.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
Browns, and he looked horrible?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
All right, four for sixteen passing forty seven yards.
Speaker 4 (00:58):
Don't forget he completed his first two. He did so.
Speaker 5 (01:00):
We actually finished two or fourteen there at the end
with an interception and a thirteen and a half passer rating.
He was sacked twice, including a sack fumble, thankfully recovered
by his own team, so it wasn't a second turnover.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
He also had one intentional grounding call.
Speaker 5 (01:14):
Guys, His thirteen and a half passer rating marked the
lowest passer rating by any player with at least fifteen
attenph a NFL debut since the immortal Brandon Whedon and
twelve who even Shador himself, despite what your favorite NFL
reporter will say, said, he had a rough game.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
It was a tough game. All bad in Cleveland.
Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yes, unless you want to blame everybody other than Shador,
which is the conversation going around, even the guys like
Rex Ryan I saw and the issue I had saying
I had to put on my son.
Speaker 4 (01:56):
I was waiting. I was like, look at you are
not talking about his teeth? Heard a new leaf. I
don't know who you are right now. I put the sun. Okay,
now that feels right now, so I can at least
look at him.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
But my point is he's talking about all about you know,
how they prepared him or didn't get him any stabs
and how like like he didn't he couldn't explain it.
But he said it was weird or strange. I can't
remember exactly the word that he used. Dan Orlosky, who
played a long time as a backup, See now it
(02:26):
ain't I didn't get snaps. And I was a veteran
guy who was a backup for a long time. I
didn't get snaps with the first team. It did, it
didn't happen. So I guess it's different depending on the
coach and the organization or whatever. And people have just
forgot that these are two young quarterbacks drafted the same draft.
You want to get and I mentioned it's the TJ.
(02:46):
You want to get Dylan Gabriel as many snaps as
you can to get him. If you picked him, you
drafted him third and should do a fifth. And then
the other thing, too, is if the roles were reversed
and Shadoor was named the star, they got a concussion
and Dylan Gabriel came in and had that performance, people
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would say he can't play.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
And you know what I mean, Oh, look did you
see see?
Speaker 3 (03:12):
I told you he can't play like that is the
conversation that I'm convinced people will have. And I understand
people have a soft spot for Shadoor because of Dion,
And it does because if his name was Joe Smith,
it wouldn't be the same. It's because it's Dion's kids
and people like Dion and for a good reason. Okay,
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Dion was a Hall of Fame football player, played Major
League Baseball, hit a home run and scored a touchdown
and again in the same day for two different teams
and two different major league sports. Like he's that guy.
But to just pin it and say it's because of
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not getting reps or fumbling the ball or you know,
or whatever it is, because had he drove the team
down and scored the touchdown at the end, no one
would have brought up about not having the snaps and
all the other stuff that people use.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
It would have been like, see, I told you we
could play. Look at what he did.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
He beat the Ravens, he marched down the field, whatever, whatever,
like it was set up for Shador to do that
and and and have a chance to have a different conversation,
but it didn't. It didn't materialize, and there was a
lot of stuff that didn't work out.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
My point is just this for people to think that.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
Uh Stefanski and the brain trust at the Browns have
come up with a scheme so that Shador can't succeed.
It is ludicrous to me. It's against everything that goes
into sports where an organization hasn't been able to find
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a quarterback and developed one or whatever in a long time.
And it just doesn't make any sense. If that kid
really was the real deal, they would have put him
in and I and I can't for the life of
me not think of Tom Brady and the Raiders, Like, seriously,
this is somebody who worked with Shador who claims to
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be you know, a mentor right to Chador.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Gino? Is that really?
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Like?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Should okay?
Speaker 3 (05:29):
Like they wanted no part of him, and they could
have easily had him a couple times in the draft.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
So I looked at it. Am I saying he can't play.
Speaker 3 (05:37):
Of course he can play play major college football, But
stop making excuses for Shador. Guess what? Just forget about
everything else and just look at his play. He played poorly.
There's no other way up that you could look at it.
He played poorly.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Period.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
I think two things can be true. I think he played.
Let me not say that he played poorly. I don't
think he did play poorly. He left. And what's crazy.
I was talking Robb g about this, that touchdown opportunity
he had if he hits that receiver in the end
zone there who had a nice distance between and the defender.
That changes things, right, because then you stop looking at
the completion percentage. You say, hey, they're right back in
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this thing. I don't remember if they would have had
a lead at that point, but it'd have been right.
They would have tied the game up right there. Big
play was like, yeah, it was a moment he missed
that throw. You that has what were watching? I think
off camera you said Gino Smith had an opportunity. You're like, man,
he's got to make that throw in the end zone.
You gotta make those throws. Those are what pro quarterbacks do.
So he played miserably for most of that game. Had
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a few plays here or there that were, you know,
some nice plays, some couple completions. You know, way he
checked down a couple of times. It's okay, there's some
things that left desirable. However, the other side of this
is there is something to be thrown in in a
second half when you never have gotten snaps and Cam
Newton had this to say, kind of as a quarterback
(06:58):
and with his ex you brought it up each team
might be different. Here's what he said his experience being
the starter, but what it was like for his backup.
Speaker 6 (07:05):
This is the thing that really irks me the most
is because he doesn't get any reps circa twenty fifteen
circle when Cam Newton was the MVP, CIRCA when hey.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
My nobody need know that majority of.
Speaker 6 (07:20):
My career was probably the biggest blessing of my career.
To have a veteran in Derek Anderson Ron Rivera still
knew we're one playaway kid from you not being available.
We would have anywhere from six to twelve reps in
every single practice. That allowed Derek to still have an
(07:42):
ability to say, hey, if it goes how it goes,
not granted.
Speaker 4 (07:46):
So I'm gonna say, well, Cam, you played the position
any different? Well, what is that to say about properity?
Speaker 6 (07:52):
Well, what is that to say about any other quarterback
that's here?
Speaker 4 (07:55):
You plan for the what if in this league. So
you brought up a great point.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
I believe if we ask thirty two teams there would
be something that will say I never got snapped.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
I completely agree. And he played for the line for
a long time making that story up.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Rob g talking every with the old joke about what
they Peyton Manning. They're basically saying his backup never gets
many reps. They said why, they said, uh, because if
eighteen go out, we're screwed, essentially the paraphrase, then keep
my job. So I do think organizations are different, but
it makes this one strange to me. Is Dylan Gabriel
you say needs all the snaps? I say, hasn't wowed
me to the point if I'm them saying where we
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should be giving both snaps to just just a few,
just a few, Dylan Gabriels our starter, you get a
few because you're both rookies.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
We're both trying to see what you got to see
who our guy is.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
They start in practice, though, I want to want to
watch him go up against the ones, is what I'm saying. So, Dylan,
you're starting, that's not a question. You are a starter.
You're getting ninety five ninety ninety five. We want to
see just a few, because hey, you'r rookiees not You're
not Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. Will we know goodwill
you are everything. You might have a bad two three
game strets. We want to see what this guy has.
(09:05):
So I'm more shocked than they haven't given him a
few reps just simply because Dylan Gabroe is your quarterback,
and that means you don't have a quarterback as of
right now because he hasn't played that great. He still
deserves to be a starter. I'm not saying as long
as he's healthy. Also, it'll be interesting. You brought it
up with the people being like, man, something going on
with this team or they it is something about it
just feels like they.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Almost have buyer remorse immediately.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Maybe it's justifiable, maybe there's something to you, Maybe it's practice,
Maybe they don't like the man or stuff.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
He says. I don't know, but it does feel like.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
They could cut him if they really like, like, sir,
what are they holding on for?
Speaker 4 (09:39):
Seriously?
Speaker 3 (09:40):
Well no, no, no, no, but I'm just they could
cut him. Yeah, it ain't about selling no jersey. You
sold all the jeergy you want to. You're done with that.
If it was about a pousong, he's not playing. We
don't even talk about him up until his point because
he wasn't playing, so you didn't get any extra juice.
If you really don't want the guy in the building
or don't want him, or you looked at it.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
That's what you were like, he's here, but we're not
young ho about it.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
That's what it feels. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But I'm just saying the idea that you would you
would have a talent in your building and ignore him
because you're trying there's some bigger power or some bigger
oh you know, because for all the people, and you
were one of them, Oh this doesn't make sense to me,
you know, and all this and and and there's conspiracy
(10:29):
or whatever. And then you find out that teams did call,
and they and he said, I don't want to go
to Baltimore. I don't want to go to Philly. I
don't want to go to teams that have starting call. Well,
well that's why he kept dropping. But but but but
but people were saying it was because they were trying
to make make a point or the league was trying
(10:50):
to say, you know what I mean, like put him
in his place.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
The Ravens called for him.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
I'm just saying, because the Ravens actually and you're gonna
sit behind Lamar Jackson. Which is the irony is that
this would have been he would have started because Lamar
missed a handful of games. But the Ravens are an
organization that have done things differently. Look, they took Lamar
and Philly, and those are both teams that have a quarterback.
I had some you know, have had They took in
Mike Vick some years ago. They don't mind maybe some
(11:19):
of the what comes with that, So that might have
been his own, you know, doing to not want to
go and back up those guys because they look at
their projected starters for a year to go.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
But but people made it that the NFL sent out
the word not to draft him.
Speaker 4 (11:33):
But that doesn't make.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Sense that actually, but we get that explanation later at
least makes sense because there had to be some explanation
why guy that for a long time was talking in
as the first rounder, Okay, maybe a second rounder third
dropped on the fourth to fifth. So at least that
even if that's what happened, that makes sense. There's some
type of exclination as to how we got to know, but.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Didn't they If the NFL wanted to put the cop botch,
he would have been drafted at all. I don't I
don't understand why would he be drafted at all if
they wanted to put him in his play.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I still believe that there are people who didn't like
his disposition, Not that they're saying he done didn't need
to be drafted, but I don't there's something about him
I don't like or I don't like his disposition, his attitude.
Speaker 3 (12:11):
Still the NFL quarterback and he's in the game, I
just don't.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
So I want to see if he gets his first
starter position, where he gets the one snap, So I
want to see what that looks like.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
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Speaker 5 (12:31):
Earlier today, it was announced by the league and reported
by ESPN Sports.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Just try to pick your favorite thing.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
Same thing that Draymond Green was issued a warning not fine,
this time for a viral interaction he had with the
fan on Sunday night. I know you probably miss because
lot of NFL actionally went on on Sunday, But during
their game on Sunday, Draymond Green got into it with
a fan who was courtside, and after Birds told the
(13:01):
media that The reason why he got into it was
the guy made a good joke at first, but you
can't keep calling me a woman. I got four kids,
one on the way, you can't keep calling me a woman.
Well we found out after the fact because the fan
told us I'm a.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Woman that the Empeltis had no issue.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
The impetus behind the whole back and forth was not
that he was calling him a woman or calling him
a B word or anything like that. No, he was
calling him Angel Reese over and over exactly because Draymond
Green had a portion during the game where he got
multiple offensive rebounds and smoked multiple layups a la Angel Reese's.
And that was the empetthis on the whole thing again,
(13:40):
No fine, but a stern talking to for Draymond Green.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
And you know what, they probably should have find them,
but I but I get it. I'll say this, Draymond
Green is the biggest hypocrite in the National Basketball Association.
He's the biggest baby. He's the one who goes after
people all the time. He's the one always bumping his
(14:04):
gums and you know, and all this stuff. And he's
a big baby that somebody who paid their money, who's
sitting in great seats right where he can hear him from.
He not in the rafters. He's all the way down front.
Calls him Angel reats and he gets his panties in
a bunch. Really, oh, that guy's out of bounds. He
(14:28):
should have said, hey, uh, Draymond, Uh, you know you
make me sick because you have a beautiful wife, you
make multimillions of dollars, and you have four kids with
one on the way, But you make me sick. That
is that the heckling that he wanted? Does he understand
how heckling works? I mean, this wasn't disrespectful, This wasn't racist.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
There's nothing wrong with that. It's it's a propos. I'm
about to like, dude.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
I mean, because we know Angel reats with the me bounds,
you know, like she take nine shots and get eight
rebounds off of it to me bound, I get it.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
It was actually clever. What's the first word? Clever?
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You're gonna take too long when you guys, Yeah, clever.
You know I said that was actually clever. Roy haven't
running back ready. I always got to wait a minute.
I gotta put the glass on and going.
Speaker 4 (15:17):
Let me see.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Okay, you can see Okay, there clever. That was clever.
You know what the fan did, rob he kept it basketball.
Literally he called him a basketball player. Now is she
a woman yet? But he called him a hooper who
does similar things? And what if people said about angel
Reice's game, Wow, she kind of plays like a female Draymond, right,
(15:39):
great defense, talks, a little smack, tough, canim make a layer?
Speaker 7 (15:42):
You know?
Speaker 4 (15:43):
Rebound? Me bounds as well?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
So that was a clever heckling that was actually basketball
as well, and to me and bye by doing it,
he actually insinuates to me, and it kind of insults
Angelice as if that was like so insulting to call
me angel Rea.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
It's another hooper? Like what it better?
Speaker 1 (16:01):
He mentioned, Oh why he couldn't call me Lisa Leslie
like so to me and even being a hypocritical about this,
a hypocrite, you didn't insult to injuries.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
Let's continue some things.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
What didn't you and I talk about Draymond a few
weeks ago because he called a professional football player who
has been an MVP candidate a bum.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
He called Dak Post his mouth and now somebody calls
him hooper exactly, and that fit what it happened.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
In that game.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
It's apropos. I literally wrote. He kept it basketball and
it was apropos. You missed a bunch of layups like
she has done at times, and to score a layup,
missed a bunch, got a bunch of rebounds, puts it in.
You literally did that. Injuries has done that. She can
not again.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
You now to mention again, this is a basketball player.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
He didn't call you a name, He didn't call you
a a something else. He didn't call you a B word.
Oh did I mentioned you've called people your teammates a
B word. So I just from a guy who has
stumped people, kicked people in the key uiz punch.
Speaker 4 (17:01):
People call people names always in trouble.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
So just called a pro athlete who he knows what
it's like to be a pro athlete.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
You know what it's like a lot of people.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
You know what it's like to have the spotlight on you.
And you called Dak Prescott a bum. This is crazy
to me that this is what God is. Panties in
a bunch. But then I probably shouldn't say panties because
then now I'm calling humber one by saying that, I'm
just you know, it's just a big that's true. But
I'm just blown away by that. Like Draymond, you've been
in so many competitive games. You're from where you're from,
(17:30):
from Saginaw, You're from Michigan. You know how tough Saganaw
is played in Michigan State, played in the league.
Speaker 4 (17:35):
That's what got you roued up. It's just so ridiculous.
This is who he if he.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Said he called you their dead family member or something,
and that, Okay, I get it, I get it, angel
Rees when you literally did an angel Rees move.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It's just but the whole idea, like like this is
what fans do. They heckle you. You know why they
heckle you because you matter. When you don't matter, nobody
heckles a guy who doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
Is different, rob as you're mentioned and then disrespect right,
it's a heckle.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Boo, you suck, boo, you missus sean air ball. That's heckling.
That's a part of the experience. And all they want
to do is get your attention, and you gave them
your attention rather than acting like it didn't hear it.
Speaker 4 (18:19):
It's so easy to ignore.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's what most professionals do. They just ignore it.
Speaker 4 (18:25):
Now.
Speaker 3 (18:25):
If there's something racist or something really cross the stream, kids,
that's something different. This was basketball, this was the sports experience,
and for him to get all worked up makes no
sense to me.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
Sager put the camera on me hitting dogs holler, and
he was embarrassed that he did exactly what the person
was calling him out about.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Injuries.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
From time to time has been known to miss bunch
of layups, get the rebound missing, and put it back in.
He did exactly that. So that's why it's stung rob
because that's exactly what he was. He was pre performed
like an Atla Ree sequence and he was upset about that.
But how can you get mad when somebody calls you
a professional basketball player?
Speaker 8 (19:07):
Right?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Make it make sense? None of it makes sense, all right?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox is our telephone number.
Eight seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
And you know the apology is coming, right, yeah, because
that's what it ainything by it, because not as if
Angel Rees is a bad player, he leads the league
in apologies. It's coming, My bad. I didn't really see
it like that. I was just saying that I was
a female. You don't it's coming.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
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Speaker 7 (19:45):
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five to seven pm Eastern.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
But here's the thing.
Speaker 7 (19:51):
We never have enough time to get to everything we
want to get.
Speaker 8 (19:54):
To, and that's why we have a brand new podcast
called over Promised. You see, we're having so much fun
in our two our show. We never get to everything, honestly,
because this guy is over promising things we never have
time for. Yeah, you blubber list name and me.
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be good at it because you've been over promising women
for years.
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will continue on our after show called over Promised.
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Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah. Man, but there's some news Lakers are there.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Basically, we knew when owner Mark Walters bought the team
that there could be some changes. When would it happened,
How would it happened? Who had happened to you? And
now there's some big changes. So they're reshuffling the deck
there in the basketball department, and the fired executives Joey
and Jesse Buss from their respective front office positions that
they have effective immediately, and they went on to say
(21:15):
that they're extremely honored to have been a part of
this organization for the last twenty years. And they also
said thank you to the Laker nation blah blah blah.
But you can expect with that. But I do think
was interesting is they said this Rob and this part
of our conversation, Doctor Buss's idea their father was for
Joey and I to run basketball operations one day. That's
what Jesse told Seam Serrani and referring to the father,
(21:36):
and he said, but Jeannie has effectively kept herself in
place with her siblings fired, so we got a little
succession going on like the TV show in real life.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
I'm just gonna say this, the Lakers didn't do enough
for me because Jeanie Buss should have been.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Fired with the brothers as well. And what Yeah, I'm
dead serious.
Speaker 3 (21:58):
Once they've already taken the Bus family took the ten
billion dollars. And people have to understand everybody who owns
a team is not super rich.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
And I'm not saying a lot of people don't get that.
They don't get that.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
You think, oh, you own the Lakers, Oh my god,
all of them are you're printing money?
Speaker 4 (22:13):
You got all this money?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
No, that was the Bus family fit family business.
Speaker 1 (22:19):
Yep, that's the main They're not Steve Balmer where this
is my fun pet project.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Right, two hundred billion would.
Speaker 3 (22:25):
A b and this is just fun something to do.
It puts me out there. My name is out there exactly. No,
the Lakers were the Buses family business yep. And and
I don't I don't know the whole idea or the
whole idea that you sell a team to somebody and
you expect to still have a job there or work
(22:47):
there or collect money as pay. You got paid, your
family got paid, they got the ten billion. If you
want to be in the basketball business, then you shouldn't
have sold. Just like Mark Q, I want another seat
at the table. What if that doesn't make any sense
to me? It really doesn't, dude, what you sell for
(23:08):
the Bus family enough, the people who won the organization,
who bought the team right of the Dodger people, get
your own people. You don't need Genie Bus anymore. And
it does feel weird. And I'm not siding with the brothers,
but doesn't it feel weird?
Speaker 2 (23:24):
What?
Speaker 5 (23:24):
What?
Speaker 3 (23:25):
Why didn't Genie get the red get the pink slip
as well?
Speaker 4 (23:28):
Seriously? So here's my answer to that.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I believe Genie Buss is the singular face of the
Lakers outside of you know, the players, obviously Luca Lebron
and you know, God bless her dead Kobe Scheck. But
when you think of it, organizationally, nobody really thinks of
Ropelinka except obviously Laker fans. But when you think of
it as a whole, like nationwide, I think even even
(23:51):
in LA she's endeared. You've been the games, You've seen
how fans. She's like the one person fans are cool with.
Even when the team's in the dumps, She's the one
person is like a family member.
Speaker 4 (24:00):
She's like, all right, now, this team, they're struggling, But Geenie,
come on, Like.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
People have love for her because they literally have seen
her grow up from a teenager being a part of
this team. So I think she's there for ceremonial like
the heart of that to do that, come on, man.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
But I'm just telling you what.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
You're there because I don't think she's going to be
part of the real basketball operations.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
She doesn't need to be there at all. I don't agree.
I don't disagree without need. I'm telling you what I
think they're doing it for.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
But not one Laker fan is going to lose any
sleep that Genie Bust doesn't have an office with the
Lakers or whatever.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
They understand, how bus is they dis agree. Nobody cares
about Jeanie Bust.
Speaker 1 (24:40):
She's old newsency, tingency of fans who still want a
connection to the good old days, the bus Family to
showtime Lakers, and they want to have that. She's not
going to be overly involved in the basketball operations. So
what's the point then, ceremonia. It's you wanted to be
a mascot, is what you're telling me. You wanted to
(25:02):
be a mascot. Why don't you go down put a mascot,
go down there and walk around and throw t shapes
at it? And you know, and you know people do
that all the time, like Magic Johnson when he was
prior to when he finally when he was a president
for those couple of years.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He's magic is a part of it. But he's magic.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
You feel comfortable, you feel good having around and he,
by the way, is someone there speculating he got Rodney
Pete obviously a friend of both of ours, who had
put out on his show A M five to seventy
out here in LA that you know, he wouldn't.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Be shocked if Magic has some I don't know what
that means. He wouldn't be shocked. Is Magic gonna do something?
Just tell you what Rodney said? What do you want
from me? That you know? And also Stan Caston, who
is president Operation Stan Casting used to run the Hawks.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Stan Caston knows basketball and he stand based up Dodgers
and he'd been with the Braves. Stan Caston could easily
he easily easily handle both because that's what he's done.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
He was. I remember Stan Casting from the old days
with the Hawks.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Yep, he has been all over. He's done a million
different things. So for those who kind of n't familiar
with them, you know, we mentioned it, the Braves, the Hawks,
the Dodgers. He's just really good at putting a team
together day to day, understanding the you know, the the
overall like what you're trying to do and accomplished. So
Stan Casting, who was with the part ownership of the Dodgers,
so part owner means he's with Mark Walter and uh
(26:20):
and also Magic part owner the Dodgers with Mark Walter.
It would not surprise me if they start to slowly
bring over the team that has now got three rings
and what five six years has been in the playoffs.
Really made this this team a great organization over the
last decade or so, so that would not shock me there.
But again with the genie buzz point, I just think
there's a hint of familiarity a hint of glory days
(26:42):
years past, a hint of something that Laker fans LA
fans people can say, I remember that as opposed to
like a hostile takeover, where it's like, hey, oh hold
on now, so I now not longer that lasts got
a hostile takeover. You if you're used to the bus
you didn't lose team. I ain't lying. The money is great,
I'm saying on the fan base looking at ownership, and
(27:05):
if everything they had to do with the Lakers past
was gone, I could see some Laker fans.
Speaker 4 (27:09):
Being who owned the team before the Bus Family? Do
you know? Yeah, okay, there you go. That's what I
was gonna say, right the bus bend. Oh, this is
nineteen seventy nine. Don't nobody remember all that? What do
you mean nineteen seventy nine and one hundred years ago?
Rock I wasn't born, Jack, I wasn't born. You don't
have to be born. You know who the president of
the first president of the United States was. You weren't
born then? You know? Uh, all right, what Barack Obama ball?
(27:35):
I wasn't born.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Jack can't cook and they okay, when the Bus Family
took over, he didn't have to stay on.
Speaker 4 (27:41):
He sold your team come on, because he was the body,
because he wasn't doing nothing within it. They wasn't winning.
Did the le eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
We're gonna be me and you'll be fired up. It's
trash soccer too. You want to leave me like a
TV team? So on Thursday, that's all right.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
You see, they knew, they knew, the gods, God knew
not to have me next you.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Right now, we'd be rumpling in this dude, he'd be
some furniture moving up in there.
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