December 13, 2025 • 27 mins
Rob and Kelvin argue whether this lost season for the Kansas City Chiefs is a black eye on the legacy of Patrick Mahomes, tell us why they were so offended by the Indianapolis Colts’ decision to bring Philip Rivers out of retirement to be their new quarterback, and debate whether Sherrone Moore or the University of Michigan itself deserves the most blame for conduct scandal that ultimately cost Moore his job.
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Kansas City Chiefs been in the Super Bowl basically since
Moby Dick was a Guppy. They ain't looking like they're
gonna be back there this year. They fall the six
and seven on the season after losing last night at
the Houston Texans. They will now officially have zero chance
of winning the AFC West for the first time in
a decade, and their chances of making the postseason are
a blistering twelve percent. They'd have to win out and
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need a thousand other things to break their way just
to make the playoffs. Right now, it's the official and
the crumbling of Chiefs Kingdom, no.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Doubt, and I want to go here.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And I told you Kelvin Washington. I told you a
couple listeners. I told you all you forty X players
who are analysts on television. I told you Patrick Mahomes
has not been the same guy for years now, and
people have continued to make excuses. Even last night, they're
(01:23):
still making excuses. Fourteen for thirty three, three interceptions, no touchdowns,
and you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Then you need a drafts O the drops.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I thought when he got all of his wide receivers
back Kelvin, they were off and running. That's what your
contention was that it was because he didn't have his guys.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
All of his wide receivers are healthy and all playing.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And guess what the last four games when they needed
him one touchdown and six interceptions. Why can't we acknowledge?
Oh did you see Kelsey? That wasn't a well thrown
baller was thrown behind him. Wait, he would have if
he made that catch, it would have been a great catch.
(02:07):
I had the nerve to listen to Dan Orlowsky this
morning talk about he's the greatest player on the planet
since win.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You mean the guy.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Didn't get one first place MVP vote despite going fifteen
to one as a starter last year.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Come on, you guys are living in the past. The
Chiefs haven't been good. I know they went to the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I told you last year they were lucky at Sin
and it all caught up.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
To him this year.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I don't want to hear any excuses about Patrick Mahomes.
He hasn't played well. Why can't we acknowledge that? Why
can't everybody else always excuses? Oh Andy, we went four
on fourth down on a thirty one yard Oh Chelsey,
he hit the ball hit him? Oh was she right?
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He dropped the ball off for it. That that's all
I heard. Patrick Mahomes didn't make every throw either. Did
you watch the game? Did you watch the highlights? He
didn't make all the throws and he hasn't been making
the throws.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
This has been a process.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's why I said before the season that they wouldn't
make the playoffs, not based on because some hate. Where's
all the Chiefs Kingdom people who were on Twitter that
I was washed, I was a washed reporter and I'm
a hater and I'm just looking for clicks. We're all
those guys. When I tried to tell you, yeah, I'm
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sure you can't find those guys today because they didn't
want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
When you get into fandom, you can't look at stuff
fairly and honestly, because you become jaded and you think
everything is everybody else's fault. The last thing for you, Kelvin,
the reason the Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Are you ready? Is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Not the defense which is seventh best in the NFL,
not the receivers, not Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's Patrick Mahomes is to blame.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He is the reason why the Chiefs are not gonna
make the playoffs. And go to YouTube and go see
the video. I said a couple of weeks ago that
same thing. The reason the Chiefs won't make the playoffs
will be because of Patrick Mahomes and the offense, and
that's why they are where they are.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
The Chiefs are playing bad football. There's no way around it.
They're playing bad football as an offensive unit. At times,
they're playing that being out coached. Andy Reid probably for
the first time in his life, has to admit that
that he has not been he's been out coaching. He
hasn't been coaching will Patrick Mahomes is missing passes that
he normally makes. Patrick Mahomes is forcing things. You got
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guys who are dropping balls that normally don't so this
is they look bad in totality, with the defensewithstanding, that
might be the only unit that for the most part
of this whole season has looked good.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
A couple of things. I don't agree with you on
number one.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I don't agree if you're saying this season, I'm with you.
But if you're saying including last year, I don't agree
with that. Last year, and obviously we talked about it
throughout the season. Last year, he was making those plays
that would get them to win.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
He was making those third down comarade.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I wanted to get an MVP vote if he was
making the plays that no, no, I'm using your words. Yeah,
if he made the plays that helped him win fifteen
go fifteen and one.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Why did he not? Why did he not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Get one first place MVP vote? Because you won't be
able to answer it because what you're saying is illogical.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
That's first of all, it's factual that I don't even
know why you brought that up.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's proved. I was telling you this all last year.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He was the highest third down conversion by far last
year and even half of the season. So he makes
the play the winning play. That's not debatable. We're talking
about last season, you asked why didn't get an MVP
vote because Lamar Jackson. You remember I set up here
and said it right sext to you that he's.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
The best player.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen were insane last year. So
him being fifteen to two and winging the Super Bowl,
getting to Super doesn't mean he had to be the
m v P. Him making third down conversions, they were limitedlessly.
From what I said, he made the winning tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Listen to what I said. I'm talking about so one
in last.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Year, one vote, not just win the MVP, I'm answered
in question, and winning because the other got but one vote,
because the other guys, including Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, we're insane.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He got in all him and watched him. They went
they were fifteen and one in Mahomes' starts. Because you
just why he just because I thought it was winning.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know you an answer questions, Okay, so that if
you could ask, let me answer. So, like I said,
it's because he only made a handful of plays each game.
Lamar was making fifteen to twenty, Josh Allen was making
fifteen to twenty, Joe Burrow's making ten to fifteen, a game.
That's why he realized with his defense kept him in games.
Don't turn over too much stick around. I can make
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a player two and that is why those player two
aren't working this year. Those guys that make plays aside
from him, it's not working this year. So they'll denying
it and they have to go to the drawing board
and figure out what's next. Andy Reid has to figure
out what next the designing of the plays. Patrick Mahomes
has to go to the drawing board and realize what
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I'm doing isn't working. They absolutely have to look at
house guys. They may have to start. Chris Jones has
played really well yesterday. Can we get some form? Can
we trade? They're gonna have to look at themselves and
really make a hard reset at some point. I don't
agree that has been singularly Patrick Mahomes, But you give
me some numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Can I give you numbers? They got numbers.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Mahomes has a sixty eight point six passer rating on
deep passes that's third worst of the thirty six qualifiers,
ranked near the bottom for NFL on deep ball completions
thirty two percent more and while he's uh while being
top three in deep ball attempts fifty five. He's so
(08:20):
he's torn them a lot, he's just not hitting them.
And my point to you is you set up here
on this very radio show when you talked about getting
with Shei Rice back and worthy and that no, and
you proclaimed that he was going to be the MVP
and they were going to go to the super Bowl
because Patrick got his mojo and got his receivers back
and that is what was stopping him.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So will you take that back that it had nothing
to do with that?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And that's about And that's so with Patrick Mahomes playing badly, playing.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Like absolutely, why can't go trash? He is playing bad
without a doubt. They are bad as a team, without
a doubt. There's no deny. Their record is what they are,
close games that they normally win, they have it. They
put themselves in a hole yesterday, he's throwing some balls off.
They're not catching balls again, Andy Reid being freaked out
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and doing stuff he doesn't normally do. They look bad
as a unit and this year is gonna be a
tough year for them to look in the mirror. Absolutely,
I thought they would bounce back. They had a good
stretch where they were putting up some points, then it
went downhill the last three or four weeks.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Without a doubt, I was wrong on that.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I have no problem admitting that they look bad as
a team this year and are getting it done, especially
Rob two point.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
They're losing a good teams too.
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Speaker 3 (10:16):
Big news in Indianapolis. They're quarterback Daniel Jones, Danny Dimes,
Danny Pennys. We want to call him out for the
season with the torn achilles, wishing him a speedy recovery.
But because the Indianapolis Colts are still in the thick
of the AFC playoff race, they need a new quarterback
and Rightley Lander's not the answer. Six round rookie might
be heard this weekend, they don't like any other options.
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Athlete Richardson, their former top five overall pick, still dealing
with the broken face after hit himself with an elastic
band on how that happened.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So because of that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
They're dipping into the Canton Hall of Fame category. Philip Rivers,
who is eligible to be in shrine in twenty twenty six,
has just been signed to their practice squad. He has
not played football in about five years. If he gets
signed to the active roster, not only will he be
the oldest quarterback in the NFL by far, he will
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also have restarted his Hall of Fame case another five years.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So it's a double whammy for Philip Rivers. I'm disgusted.
Can I tell you that? Why are you disgusted? I
am absolutely disgusted. Today is this on? This on? Today
is one of those days when I.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Hate the National Football League because you know why, it
sounds like an old Negro spiritual when I heard the
news today.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Is this old man River.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
This is old man River, Man River. This is when
the NFL is bad. Why because they're bringing old Man
River to quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
You mean to tell me there's nobody else who.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Could play football and quarterback the Colts. This guy hasn't
played in five years. He's forty four years old. And
you know what, this was the same league that years ago,
five years ago, told me that Colin Kaepernick was too
old and that Colin Kaepernick couldn't play him he was
(12:19):
too rush, he hadn't played.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Nawhow this is the league that we have.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I would have had more respect for the Colts that
they said Colin Kaepernick put on.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
A helmet, get a uniform. Come on, man, we claim it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm still mad at the NFL players who allowed the
owners to do what they did to Colin Kaepernick and
take away his career because he cared about people. It
makes me sick to think that Colin Kaepernick's career was
taken from him and NFL players, mostly black, a league
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that's almost seventy percent black, turned the other way and
allowed that to happen. And you know what, this league
is famous for nepotism. Buddyism, cronyism. And here's another example.
Let's go get a guy because we feel comfortable with
him and we know he hadn't played in five years.
(13:17):
There's nobody else on the planet who can come and
quarterback to coach and win your two games or a
game and get you in the playoffs, other than.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Old man Rivers. Disgusting. No way.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
If you have any decency, you gotta root for the
coach to lose every single game. That's how I feel.
I want him to win enough game to keep the
Chiefs out of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And I knew you in that man hold On, I
knew his levels to this madness. He was like, I
met well hold On, pumped the brakes, ABC. Anybody but
cheez man, listen. I thought the river ran drying. I
didn't think it was anything left in there. When you
call it, Simon, I'm saying five year No all jokes aside.
(14:02):
I remember when Michael Vick stopped playing, right, he went
to prison for two years, and they were like, oh man,
it's been two years, he's probably lost it. He was
like twenty nine or whatever. He was thirty years old.
And you mentioned Colin Kaepernick. I've screened it to the
heavens wasn't even on the show with you.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You've screened it.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
It made no sense for people to act like there
were sixty four other quarterbacks better than Colin Kaepernick, but
he couldn't play. R I'll give you fine, maybe okay,
he's not a starter. You're telling me he's not a backup,
he's not good anymore. And then you start to run
down the Nathan Peterman's of the NFL who were in there,
like stop it. So I'm glad you brought that up,
the idea that Colin Kaepernick's two years at the time,
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three years at the time away, four years that he
couldn't play because Philip Rivers again has been gone for
five years. Now, let's get into this a little bit more.
This is also an in diving on the NFL quarterbacking.
You're telling me there's not somebody else around that they
can find, there's not a younger person around they can
make it a we'll give you a six round pick,
seven round pick, or your backup player X. I understand
(15:02):
the familiarity. I understand that he's been with the organization.
He played well eleven to five back in twenty twenty
what they win? What else did he win? Something to listen,
the world went through literal the world stopped in twenty twenty.
You know how much more we've been through a crazy
election cycles summer of George Floyd, Like so much has
happened in the five years. And he's five years older, Rob,
(15:25):
He's not as if he was thirty now he's thirty five.
He's forty four. We joke about Aaron Rodgers being old
at forty one.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
He's older than Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
We're asking Philip Rivers to come in and save the day,
to be better than what Tom Brady was at his age,
even at his peak.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He was never better than Tom Brady. You get what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
So hey, come back five years later, forty four and
comes steer this ship and mind you well, he's gotta,
you know, be good enough to win a coil game
or two for them to get in the postseas. What's
the postseason plan is a postseason plan to continue with
Philip Rivers. So this is an indictment either on the
NFL as a whole, that they're not that many good
quarterbacks laying around, or that the Colts are just like
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We don't care about it.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
We only want to go get No.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I told you about how bad the Colts are and
the cronyism. This is the same organization that hired Jeff Saturday,
who had no coaching experience. Okay, how many blunders going wrong?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Right? How many blunders are you gonna do? For real?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
A forty four year old quarterback out of the league
for five years, that's the thing he's not. He hasn't
been a backpack five years. You guys, go back and
read the stories about Colin KAEPERNICKT that too long. He
doesn't have it anymore anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He's too old.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You know how old Colin KAEPERNICKTT now? And he hasn't
played in five or six years.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
He's thirty eight. He's thirty eight, six years younger. And
they were saying this when he was like thirty, no
one that he.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Was done and he couldn't play anymore he was too rusty. Instead,
this is where we are.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Old man Rivers is crazy, man.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
He must know something. He must know the off the
coats offense. Here we go. Hold on my head. I'm
not dealing with you.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
With you, oh, I'm not dealing with you right now,
even though I'm literally dealing with you right now.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
That's where we are. What year is this? Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Dinnapolis Colts have just signed old Man River.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They I'm a I'm in a bad Plantation movie that
I'm watching the study of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
What is this?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
They?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
They?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
You know, always talking about the break in case of emergency.
You know the Steelers had that with Russell Wilson or
some other teams had.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, a really good back.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
You went back and first of all, he has enough
to to he could have been a coach of his
own football team, you know what I mean, Like any
idea that they win got him, Like this is actually
this is we live in LA. He was a Charger
who of course they finally went from San Diego in LA.
This sounds like an LA Charger thing because this will
actually be a movie something made for Hollywood. Wasn't then
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it's quat in the movie is necessary roughness?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I know what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Their general manager, Chris Baller, was watching a rerun of
Going with the Win and figured out, like I could
get my quarterback from that. Let me go get Old
Man River to quarterback me because I gave up too
much for dB two first round picks I pulled and
the eggs in the basket like like, seriously, are you distraught?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Like I am disgusted Anthony right now, and the and
the NFL. This is what we have. That's the first
thing I thought about today.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Old Man River is gonna be a starting quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
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Speaker 3 (19:09):
The University of Michigan has firehead football coach Charome Moore
with cause that's the key word here, because they found
quote credible evidence that he was engaged in an inappropriate
relationship with a staff member. Part of their statement reads,
quote this conduct constitutes a clear violation of university policy
and um maintains zero tolerance for such behavior. Charon Moore
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out looking for a new head coach there in Nann Arbor.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
It would be one thing.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
If we looked at this and looked at it as
an isolated incident.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It is unbelievable. How many coaches you know have bit
to dust over this. It's a long list. I don't
even think it opposed to list on the internet. There's
not enough space. Like that's how often this happens, even
in the own in the state of Michigan. Mel Tucker
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the Michigan state coach who wound up losing right. He
was fired in September twenty twenty three following the sexual
harassment investigation and lost what was it, seventy five eighty
million dollars that he still had left on his contract
with cars and all that. There's all kinds of other
people but had situations involving.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Miss Bobby Petrino, Pattino, Irvin Meyer.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I mean, we could go on and on and on
and on, and I'm gonna say this. This is not
to exonerate the people doing the bad stuff, because more
deserve If this is all true, this is on him
like like you already know when you signed the contract
at Michigan and they tell you people and people don't
understand this.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
They go, that's no nobody's business.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
They're mature adults and they have the right to do
whatever they want to do in their own personal lives. No, no, no,
not when you affect other people's lives. We talk about
all the time. Kelvin You can't be the boss or
in charge of somebody and mess around with subordinates because
you hold their life in your hands. You're giving them
promotions and raises that maybe other people have earned because
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you're in the sack together like that. That's the reason
if we're on part and we're working on the line
at Ford or GM, we can have a romance and.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Fall in love.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You don't control my destiny or my life livelihood. Right,
People fall in love at work all the time on
this level, but not when somebody's here and they're the
boss and they're running things.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
We know this. It's one of the first videos you
gotta watch when you start new jobs. All the time.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's over and over and over. But this is my point,
and I want to hear from you. Yeah, I'm blaming
the universities and these college towns because they have made
this job of being especially college football, and these towns
like God, like, these guys get to.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Do whatever they want. The police fall in line.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
When kids used to get busted or whatever, they would
bring the kids to the coach.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
We saw at Penn State, right, Joe Paterno. What went
on there despicable.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because guys are bigger than and not held accountable. They're
a football coach. Oh something bad happened, or go to
take it to coach whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
No, call the police. That's what should have happened at
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Joe Paterno's name and everything would still be up there
if he did the right thing.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
He didn't do that. In fact, he never called the police.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And in this case, and this is all alleged, we're
not indicting anybody. I mean saying that they're guilty, and
the guy lost his job. Michigan has to feel pretty
good with the evidence that it had against more. But
my point is this is because we allow these coaches
cart blanche, and we allow them to do what they
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want run the universe. They're bigger than the college presidents.
They make more money than anybody they run the place.
And with absolute power comes problems and when people and
that's why I think this keeps happening.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well, you know what, I don't think you finished it
off though. I think this is where we differ a
little bit. With absolute power comes absolute responsibility. And I
think that's where I was saying, So I hear you
in the schools, and these guys become bigger than the
godlike figures.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
We talk about that all the time.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
That's why sometimes coaching in college can be more beneficial
than NFL because you get away, get away, you become
the guy, a deity in that city and that town
in that state, whereas NFL it's like you better win
or else. You're not bigger than that. You might not
even be bigger than your quarterback in the NFL. But
I still have to put a lot of this at
the feet of the persons involved in this case. More
if this what is alleged true some of the other
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coaches we named, Because you are in these positions of power,
of responsibility, and of leadership, and you have to also
and then practice what you preach with these young men.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Right, we talked about all the time.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
One of the no distractions, accountability, uh and and integrity.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
That's what you're preaching to these young men.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But that was Bill Belichick right until he got girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Just what I'm in life change. But this is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You have to preach us because to be honest with you,
this thing that has happened that happened since biblical times,
like bad decisions when it comes to you know, in
this case, obviously the matter.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
But back then, you weren't signing a multi million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
That told you don't know what King David was signing
that you don't.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Know what told you don't know, don't mess around with
don't mess around with the staff.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
You don't know what Solomon was signing back then, you know.
But no, I say this to say but that That's
where I'm going with this. The school is saying, you're
not just a coach.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You were a.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Leader of men. You were a leader in this community.
You were a pillar in this community. We're giving you,
paying you handsomely in some cases, like a coach in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Act right. So I don't I can't put the onus
on the school. Act right.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I'm giving you one of the world class jobs. There's
only a handful of these types of jobs in the
entire world. You have one. You have, you have power.
You're leading people, not only your team, you're leading the community.
We're putting billboards up, we're putting commercials up. We're entrusting
you around other young people. We're entrusting you with parents, children.
(25:30):
Act right. And so to me, it falls on them.
Now do they get their minds gets convoluted and they
become the guy and they get cloudy and judgment because
I am the one.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Maybe that's the case, but I that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
There's a reason that it didn't happen to one person.
That never happened.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I guess what I'm saying is take away the job.
This happens all the time in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I don't know I'm agree with you that I disagree
with you. I agree, but you're not talking about, as
you just said, the responsibility that goes with it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
It's all laid out for you.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It ain't like Joey at the You're working at the
supermarket and uh, you know what I mean, and you're
working an hourly wage and and there's a cute girl
in the checkout count or whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
This is all laid out.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
This has happened to so many people before, and it
keeps happening. And I do believe that you feel like
you're invincible when you get those jobs because of what
they allow you to do and get away with.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
The player did something whatever, they bring it to you.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They don't call the police, they don't report it like
this is so you feel like you can get away
with anything. Because our star linebacker just got away with something.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
You believe that.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Here's where I also will say, historically, you use Joe Paterno.
I'll give you that. We know stuff that came about
that Joe Pto came up. Oh that's what we came
out with. The story came out about both Simbleckler and
what they the Michigan.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
What they turned their hands on here.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So the point is I agree with that more historically,
it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
And this is the gotcha media.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
This is the I got my own ability to expose
things and put out things and texting messages and all that.
And so to me, you gotta be you gotta be
it shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
You gotta be aware.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
But let alone in twenty twenty five, it's even more
imparant that you do right, because this is just the
accessibility to be exposed. This ain't the lionized era where
we're gonna lionize you and cover the eye. You're coming
and hungover. Weere's gonna say you have the stomach flu.
This ain't that era no more. This is I got
to play. This is the Pablo Tory era, where they're
putting everything out there and continuing to take shots at
(27:39):
you and find you. So I'm more shocked as happening
now
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Speaker 3 (00:28):
Kansas City Chiefs been in the Super Bowl basically since
Moby Dick was a Guppy. They ain't looking like they're
gonna be back there this year. They fall the six
and seven on the season after losing last night at
the Houston Texans. They will now officially have zero chance
of winning the AFC West for the first time in
a decade, and their chances of making the postseason are
a blistering twelve percent. They'd have to win out and
(00:51):
need a thousand other things to break their way just
to make the playoffs. Right now, it's the official and
the crumbling of Chiefs Kingdom, no.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Doubt, and I want to go here.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
And I told you Kelvin Washington. I told you a
couple listeners. I told you all you forty X players
who are analysts on television. I told you Patrick Mahomes
has not been the same guy for years now, and
people have continued to make excuses. Even last night, they're
(01:23):
still making excuses. Fourteen for thirty three, three interceptions, no touchdowns,
and you want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Then you need a drafts O the drops.
Speaker 1 (01:33):
I thought when he got all of his wide receivers
back Kelvin, they were off and running. That's what your
contention was that it was because he didn't have his guys.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
All of his wide receivers are healthy and all playing.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And guess what the last four games when they needed
him one touchdown and six interceptions. Why can't we acknowledge?
Oh did you see Kelsey? That wasn't a well thrown
baller was thrown behind him. Wait, he would have if
he made that catch, it would have been a great catch.
(02:07):
I had the nerve to listen to Dan Orlowsky this
morning talk about he's the greatest player on the planet
since win.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
You mean the guy.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Didn't get one first place MVP vote despite going fifteen
to one as a starter last year.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
Come on, you guys are living in the past. The
Chiefs haven't been good. I know they went to the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
I told you last year they were lucky at Sin
and it all caught up.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
To him this year.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I don't want to hear any excuses about Patrick Mahomes.
He hasn't played well. Why can't we acknowledge that? Why
can't everybody else always excuses? Oh Andy, we went four
on fourth down on a thirty one yard Oh Chelsey,
he hit the ball hit him? Oh was she right?
(02:59):
He dropped the ball off for it. That that's all
I heard. Patrick Mahomes didn't make every throw either. Did
you watch the game? Did you watch the highlights? He
didn't make all the throws and he hasn't been making
the throws.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
This has been a process.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
That's why I said before the season that they wouldn't
make the playoffs, not based on because some hate. Where's
all the Chiefs Kingdom people who were on Twitter that
I was washed, I was a washed reporter and I'm
a hater and I'm just looking for clicks. We're all
those guys. When I tried to tell you, yeah, I'm
(03:41):
sure you can't find those guys today because they didn't
want to hear it.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
And I get it.
Speaker 1 (03:46):
When you get into fandom, you can't look at stuff
fairly and honestly, because you become jaded and you think
everything is everybody else's fault. The last thing for you, Kelvin,
the reason the Chiefs aren't going to the playoffs?
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Are you ready? Is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
Not the defense which is seventh best in the NFL,
not the receivers, not Andy Reid.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
It's Patrick Mahomes is to blame.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
He is the reason why the Chiefs are not gonna
make the playoffs. And go to YouTube and go see
the video. I said a couple of weeks ago that
same thing. The reason the Chiefs won't make the playoffs
will be because of Patrick Mahomes and the offense, and
that's why they are where they are.
Speaker 5 (04:39):
The Chiefs are playing bad football. There's no way around it.
They're playing bad football as an offensive unit. At times,
they're playing that being out coached. Andy Reid probably for
the first time in his life, has to admit that
that he has not been he's been out coaching. He
hasn't been coaching will Patrick Mahomes is missing passes that
he normally makes. Patrick Mahomes is forcing things. You got
(05:02):
guys who are dropping balls that normally don't so this
is they look bad in totality, with the defensewithstanding, that
might be the only unit that for the most part
of this whole season has looked good.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
A couple of things. I don't agree with you on
number one.
Speaker 5 (05:16):
I don't agree if you're saying this season, I'm with you.
But if you're saying including last year, I don't agree
with that. Last year, and obviously we talked about it
throughout the season. Last year, he was making those plays
that would get them to win.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
He was making those third down comarade.
Speaker 1 (05:34):
I wanted to get an MVP vote if he was
making the plays that no, no, I'm using your words. Yeah,
if he made the plays that helped him win fifteen
go fifteen and one.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
Why did he not? Why did he not.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Get one first place MVP vote? Because you won't be
able to answer it because what you're saying is illogical.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
That's first of all, it's factual that I don't even
know why you brought that up.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
That's proved. I was telling you this all last year.
Speaker 5 (06:01):
He was the highest third down conversion by far last
year and even half of the season. So he makes
the play the winning play. That's not debatable. We're talking
about last season, you asked why didn't get an MVP
vote because Lamar Jackson. You remember I set up here
and said it right sext to you that he's.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
The best player.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen were insane last year. So
him being fifteen to two and winging the Super Bowl,
getting to Super doesn't mean he had to be the
m v P. Him making third down conversions, they were limitedlessly.
From what I said, he made the winning tonight.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
Listen to what I said. I'm talking about so one
in last.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Year, one vote, not just win the MVP, I'm answered
in question, and winning because the other got but one vote,
because the other guys, including Joe Burrow.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
No, we're insane.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
He got in all him and watched him. They went
they were fifteen and one in Mahomes' starts. Because you
just why he just because I thought it was winning.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
You know you an answer questions, Okay, so that if
you could ask, let me answer. So, like I said,
it's because he only made a handful of plays each game.
Lamar was making fifteen to twenty, Josh Allen was making
fifteen to twenty, Joe Burrow's making ten to fifteen, a game.
That's why he realized with his defense kept him in games.
Don't turn over too much stick around. I can make
(07:20):
a player two and that is why those player two
aren't working this year. Those guys that make plays aside
from him, it's not working this year. So they'll denying
it and they have to go to the drawing board
and figure out what's next. Andy Reid has to figure
out what next the designing of the plays. Patrick Mahomes
has to go to the drawing board and realize what
(07:40):
I'm doing isn't working. They absolutely have to look at
house guys. They may have to start. Chris Jones has
played really well yesterday. Can we get some form? Can
we trade? They're gonna have to look at themselves and
really make a hard reset at some point. I don't
agree that has been singularly Patrick Mahomes, But you give
me some numbers.
Speaker 4 (07:58):
Can I give you numbers? They got numbers.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Mahomes has a sixty eight point six passer rating on
deep passes that's third worst of the thirty six qualifiers,
ranked near the bottom for NFL on deep ball completions
thirty two percent more and while he's uh while being
top three in deep ball attempts fifty five. He's so
(08:20):
he's torn them a lot, he's just not hitting them.
And my point to you is you set up here
on this very radio show when you talked about getting
with Shei Rice back and worthy and that no, and
you proclaimed that he was going to be the MVP
and they were going to go to the super Bowl
because Patrick got his mojo and got his receivers back
and that is what was stopping him.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
So will you take that back that it had nothing
to do with that?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
And that's about And that's so with Patrick Mahomes playing badly, playing.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Like absolutely, why can't go trash? He is playing bad
without a doubt. They are bad as a team, without
a doubt. There's no deny. Their record is what they are,
close games that they normally win, they have it. They
put themselves in a hole yesterday, he's throwing some balls off.
They're not catching balls again, Andy Reid being freaked out
(09:11):
and doing stuff he doesn't normally do. They look bad
as a unit and this year is gonna be a
tough year for them to look in the mirror. Absolutely,
I thought they would bounce back. They had a good
stretch where they were putting up some points, then it
went downhill the last three or four weeks.
Speaker 4 (09:24):
Without a doubt, I was wrong on that.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I have no problem admitting that they look bad as
a team this year and are getting it done, especially
Rob two point.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
They're losing a good teams too.
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Speaker 3 (10:16):
Big news in Indianapolis. They're quarterback Daniel Jones, Danny Dimes,
Danny Pennys. We want to call him out for the
season with the torn achilles, wishing him a speedy recovery.
But because the Indianapolis Colts are still in the thick
of the AFC playoff race, they need a new quarterback
and Rightley Lander's not the answer. Six round rookie might
be heard this weekend, they don't like any other options.
(10:38):
Athlete Richardson, their former top five overall pick, still dealing
with the broken face after hit himself with an elastic
band on how that happened.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
So because of that.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
They're dipping into the Canton Hall of Fame category. Philip Rivers,
who is eligible to be in shrine in twenty twenty six,
has just been signed to their practice squad. He has
not played football in about five years. If he gets
signed to the active roster, not only will he be
the oldest quarterback in the NFL by far, he will
(11:10):
also have restarted his Hall of Fame case another five years.
Speaker 4 (11:13):
So it's a double whammy for Philip Rivers. I'm disgusted.
Can I tell you that? Why are you disgusted? I
am absolutely disgusted. Today is this on? This on? Today
is one of those days when I.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Hate the National Football League because you know why, it
sounds like an old Negro spiritual when I heard the
news today.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Is this old man River.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
This is old man River, Man River. This is when
the NFL is bad. Why because they're bringing old Man
River to quarterbacks.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
You mean to tell me there's nobody else who.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Could play football and quarterback the Colts. This guy hasn't
played in five years. He's forty four years old. And
you know what, this was the same league that years ago,
five years ago, told me that Colin Kaepernick was too
old and that Colin Kaepernick couldn't play him he was
(12:19):
too rush, he hadn't played.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Nawhow this is the league that we have.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
I would have had more respect for the Colts that
they said Colin Kaepernick put on.
Speaker 4 (12:29):
A helmet, get a uniform. Come on, man, we claim it.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
I'm still mad at the NFL players who allowed the
owners to do what they did to Colin Kaepernick and
take away his career because he cared about people. It
makes me sick to think that Colin Kaepernick's career was
taken from him and NFL players, mostly black, a league
(12:56):
that's almost seventy percent black, turned the other way and
allowed that to happen. And you know what, this league
is famous for nepotism. Buddyism, cronyism. And here's another example.
Let's go get a guy because we feel comfortable with
him and we know he hadn't played in five years.
(13:17):
There's nobody else on the planet who can come and
quarterback to coach and win your two games or a
game and get you in the playoffs, other than.
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Old man Rivers. Disgusting. No way.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
If you have any decency, you gotta root for the
coach to lose every single game. That's how I feel.
I want him to win enough game to keep the
Chiefs out of the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
And I knew you in that man hold On, I
knew his levels to this madness. He was like, I
met well hold On, pumped the brakes, ABC. Anybody but
cheez man, listen. I thought the river ran drying. I
didn't think it was anything left in there. When you
call it, Simon, I'm saying five year No all jokes aside.
(14:02):
I remember when Michael Vick stopped playing, right, he went
to prison for two years, and they were like, oh man,
it's been two years, he's probably lost it. He was
like twenty nine or whatever. He was thirty years old.
And you mentioned Colin Kaepernick. I've screened it to the
heavens wasn't even on the show with you.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
You've screened it.
Speaker 5 (14:20):
It made no sense for people to act like there
were sixty four other quarterbacks better than Colin Kaepernick, but
he couldn't play. R I'll give you fine, maybe okay,
he's not a starter. You're telling me he's not a backup,
he's not good anymore. And then you start to run
down the Nathan Peterman's of the NFL who were in there,
like stop it. So I'm glad you brought that up,
the idea that Colin Kaepernick's two years at the time,
(14:40):
three years at the time away, four years that he
couldn't play because Philip Rivers again has been gone for
five years. Now, let's get into this a little bit more.
This is also an in diving on the NFL quarterbacking.
You're telling me there's not somebody else around that they
can find, there's not a younger person around they can
make it a we'll give you a six round pick,
seven round pick, or your backup player X. I understand
(15:02):
the familiarity. I understand that he's been with the organization.
He played well eleven to five back in twenty twenty
what they win? What else did he win? Something to listen,
the world went through literal the world stopped in twenty twenty.
You know how much more we've been through a crazy
election cycles summer of George Floyd, Like so much has
happened in the five years. And he's five years older, Rob,
(15:25):
He's not as if he was thirty now he's thirty five.
He's forty four. We joke about Aaron Rodgers being old
at forty one.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
He's older than Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
We're asking Philip Rivers to come in and save the day,
to be better than what Tom Brady was at his age,
even at his peak.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
He was never better than Tom Brady. You get what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
So hey, come back five years later, forty four and
comes steer this ship and mind you well, he's gotta,
you know, be good enough to win a coil game
or two for them to get in the postseas. What's
the postseason plan is a postseason plan to continue with
Philip Rivers. So this is an indictment either on the
NFL as a whole, that they're not that many good
quarterbacks laying around, or that the Colts are just like
(16:07):
We don't care about it.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
We only want to go get No.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I told you about how bad the Colts are and
the cronyism. This is the same organization that hired Jeff Saturday,
who had no coaching experience. Okay, how many blunders going wrong?
Speaker 4 (16:21):
Right? How many blunders are you gonna do? For real?
Speaker 5 (16:24):
A forty four year old quarterback out of the league
for five years, that's the thing he's not. He hasn't
been a backpack five years. You guys, go back and
read the stories about Colin KAEPERNICKT that too long. He
doesn't have it anymore anymore.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
He's too old.
Speaker 1 (16:36):
You know how old Colin KAEPERNICKTT now? And he hasn't
played in five or six years.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
He's thirty eight. He's thirty eight, six years younger. And
they were saying this when he was like thirty, no
one that he.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
Was done and he couldn't play anymore he was too rusty. Instead,
this is where we are.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Old man Rivers is crazy, man.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
He must know something. He must know the off the
coats offense. Here we go. Hold on my head. I'm
not dealing with you.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
With you, oh, I'm not dealing with you right now,
even though I'm literally dealing with you right now.
Speaker 4 (17:24):
That's where we are. What year is this? Are you serious?
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Dinnapolis Colts have just signed old Man River.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
Yo.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
They I'm a I'm in a bad Plantation movie that
I'm watching the study of the NFL.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
What is this?
Speaker 5 (17:46):
They?
Speaker 4 (17:47):
They?
Speaker 5 (17:47):
You know, always talking about the break in case of emergency.
You know the Steelers had that with Russell Wilson or
some other teams had.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
You know, a really good back.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
You went back and first of all, he has enough
to to he could have been a coach of his
own football team, you know what I mean, Like any
idea that they win got him, Like this is actually
this is we live in LA. He was a Charger
who of course they finally went from San Diego in LA.
This sounds like an LA Charger thing because this will
actually be a movie something made for Hollywood. Wasn't then
(18:16):
it's quat in the movie is necessary roughness?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
I know what happened.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
Their general manager, Chris Baller, was watching a rerun of
Going with the Win and figured out, like I could
get my quarterback from that. Let me go get Old
Man River to quarterback me because I gave up too
much for dB two first round picks I pulled and
the eggs in the basket like like, seriously, are you distraught?
Speaker 4 (18:43):
Like I am disgusted Anthony right now, and the and
the NFL. This is what we have. That's the first
thing I thought about today.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Old Man River is gonna be a starting quarterback in
the NFL.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
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Speaker 3 (19:09):
The University of Michigan has firehead football coach Charome Moore
with cause that's the key word here, because they found
quote credible evidence that he was engaged in an inappropriate
relationship with a staff member. Part of their statement reads,
quote this conduct constitutes a clear violation of university policy
and um maintains zero tolerance for such behavior. Charon Moore
(19:33):
out looking for a new head coach there in Nann Arbor.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
It would be one thing.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
If we looked at this and looked at it as
an isolated incident.
Speaker 4 (19:46):
It's just not.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
It is unbelievable. How many coaches you know have bit
to dust over this. It's a long list. I don't
even think it opposed to list on the internet. There's
not enough space. Like that's how often this happens, even
in the own in the state of Michigan. Mel Tucker
(20:10):
the Michigan state coach who wound up losing right. He
was fired in September twenty twenty three following the sexual
harassment investigation and lost what was it, seventy five eighty
million dollars that he still had left on his contract
with cars and all that. There's all kinds of other
people but had situations involving.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Miss Bobby Petrino, Pattino, Irvin Meyer.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
I mean, we could go on and on and on
and on, and I'm gonna say this. This is not
to exonerate the people doing the bad stuff, because more
deserve If this is all true, this is on him
like like you already know when you signed the contract
at Michigan and they tell you people and people don't
understand this.
Speaker 4 (20:57):
They go, that's no nobody's business.
Speaker 1 (21:01):
They're mature adults and they have the right to do
whatever they want to do in their own personal lives. No, no, no,
not when you affect other people's lives. We talk about
all the time. Kelvin You can't be the boss or
in charge of somebody and mess around with subordinates because
you hold their life in your hands. You're giving them
promotions and raises that maybe other people have earned because
(21:23):
you're in the sack together like that. That's the reason
if we're on part and we're working on the line
at Ford or GM, we can have a romance and.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Fall in love.
Speaker 1 (21:34):
You don't control my destiny or my life livelihood. Right,
People fall in love at work all the time on
this level, but not when somebody's here and they're the
boss and they're running things.
Speaker 4 (21:47):
We know this. It's one of the first videos you
gotta watch when you start new jobs. All the time.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
It's over and over and over. But this is my point,
and I want to hear from you. Yeah, I'm blaming
the universities and these college towns because they have made
this job of being especially college football, and these towns
like God, like, these guys get to.
Speaker 4 (22:09):
Do whatever they want. The police fall in line.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
When kids used to get busted or whatever, they would
bring the kids to the coach.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
We saw at Penn State, right, Joe Paterno. What went
on there despicable.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Because guys are bigger than and not held accountable. They're
a football coach. Oh something bad happened, or go to
take it to coach whatever.
Speaker 4 (22:35):
No, call the police. That's what should have happened at
Penn State.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Joe Paterno's name and everything would still be up there
if he did the right thing.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
He didn't do that. In fact, he never called the police.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
And in this case, and this is all alleged, we're
not indicting anybody. I mean saying that they're guilty, and
the guy lost his job. Michigan has to feel pretty
good with the evidence that it had against more. But
my point is this is because we allow these coaches
cart blanche, and we allow them to do what they
(23:09):
want run the universe. They're bigger than the college presidents.
They make more money than anybody they run the place.
And with absolute power comes problems and when people and
that's why I think this keeps happening.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
Well, you know what, I don't think you finished it
off though. I think this is where we differ a
little bit. With absolute power comes absolute responsibility. And I
think that's where I was saying, So I hear you
in the schools, and these guys become bigger than the
godlike figures.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
We talk about that all the time.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
That's why sometimes coaching in college can be more beneficial
than NFL because you get away, get away, you become
the guy, a deity in that city and that town
in that state, whereas NFL it's like you better win
or else. You're not bigger than that. You might not
even be bigger than your quarterback in the NFL. But
I still have to put a lot of this at
the feet of the persons involved in this case. More
if this what is alleged true some of the other
(24:01):
coaches we named, Because you are in these positions of power,
of responsibility, and of leadership, and you have to also
and then practice what you preach with these young men.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Right, we talked about all the time.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
One of the no distractions, accountability, uh and and integrity.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
That's what you're preaching to these young men.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
But that was Bill Belichick right until he got girlfriend.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Just what I'm in life change. But this is what
I'm saying.
Speaker 5 (24:24):
You have to preach us because to be honest with you,
this thing that has happened that happened since biblical times,
like bad decisions when it comes to you know, in
this case, obviously the matter.
Speaker 1 (24:37):
But back then, you weren't signing a multi million dollar contract.
Speaker 4 (24:40):
That told you don't know what King David was signing
that you don't.
Speaker 1 (24:43):
Know what told you don't know, don't mess around with
don't mess around with the staff.
Speaker 5 (24:47):
You don't know what Solomon was signing back then, you know.
But no, I say this to say but that That's
where I'm going with this. The school is saying, you're
not just a coach.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
You were a.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
Leader of men. You were a leader in this community.
You were a pillar in this community. We're giving you,
paying you handsomely in some cases, like a coach in Michigan.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Act right. So I don't I can't put the onus
on the school. Act right.
Speaker 5 (25:09):
I'm giving you one of the world class jobs. There's
only a handful of these types of jobs in the
entire world. You have one. You have, you have power.
You're leading people, not only your team, you're leading the community.
We're putting billboards up, we're putting commercials up. We're entrusting
you around other young people. We're entrusting you with parents, children.
(25:30):
Act right. And so to me, it falls on them.
Now do they get their minds gets convoluted and they
become the guy and they get cloudy and judgment because
I am the one.
Speaker 4 (25:39):
Maybe that's the case, but I that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
There's a reason that it didn't happen to one person.
That never happened.
Speaker 5 (25:46):
I guess what I'm saying is take away the job.
This happens all the time in the history of mankind.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
I don't know I'm agree with you that I disagree
with you. I agree, but you're not talking about, as
you just said, the responsibility that goes with it.
Speaker 4 (26:03):
It's all laid out for you.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
It ain't like Joey at the You're working at the
supermarket and uh, you know what I mean, and you're
working an hourly wage and and there's a cute girl
in the checkout count or whatever.
Speaker 4 (26:16):
This is all laid out.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
This has happened to so many people before, and it
keeps happening. And I do believe that you feel like
you're invincible when you get those jobs because of what
they allow you to do and get away with.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
The player did something whatever, they bring it to you.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They don't call the police, they don't report it like
this is so you feel like you can get away
with anything. Because our star linebacker just got away with something.
Speaker 4 (26:43):
You believe that.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
Here's where I also will say, historically, you use Joe Paterno.
I'll give you that. We know stuff that came about
that Joe Pto came up. Oh that's what we came
out with. The story came out about both Simbleckler and
what they the Michigan.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
What they turned their hands on here.
Speaker 5 (26:59):
So the point is I agree with that more historically,
it's twenty twenty five.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
And this is the gotcha media.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
This is the I got my own ability to expose
things and put out things and texting messages and all that.
And so to me, you gotta be you gotta be
it shouldn't be doing it in the first place.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
You gotta be aware.
Speaker 5 (27:18):
But let alone in twenty twenty five, it's even more
imparant that you do right, because this is just the
accessibility to be exposed. This ain't the lionized era where
we're gonna lionize you and cover the eye. You're coming
and hungover. Weere's gonna say you have the stomach flu.
This ain't that era no more. This is I got
to play. This is the Pablo Tory era, where they're
putting everything out there and continuing to take shots at
(27:39):
you and find you. So I'm more shocked as happening
now
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