BONUS CONTENT - Best of The Dan Patrick Show: 11/26/2020

 Doug Gottlieb and Rob Parker fill in for Dan Patrick and discuss the NFL’s decision to postpone the Ravens /Steelers game and debate whether or not Tom Brady is ‘cooked.’ The guys question if the league should ban the Detroit Lions from playing football on Thanksgiving and try to fix Baltimore’s putrid offense. Plus, should Lamelo Ball be concerned that he was drafted by Michael Jordan?

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(01:05):
let's let's get to this Ravens Steelers game. I saw
some of the Steelers tweet out Eric Ebron is their
tight end. This is BS, you know, and I know
we brown from Detroit. Yeah yeah, I like. Look, I
understand in the moment, in the moment, and by the
way it appears, if they have more positive tests instead

(01:28):
of playing this game, and if you missed the news yesterday,
they move the game to Sunday at one fifteen, so
in the early window they're supposed to be an NBC game.
My guess is with more positive tests, this thing's gonna
be pushed back to week eighteen or something. But they've
got to find a way to slide this thing in
because you know, otherwise I don't the Ravens were already
depleted anyway. I just I don't know if they'll have

(01:50):
enough guys, But whatever. I the the idea that the NFL,
or first of all, the NFL by moving it, they
screw NBC because NBC would have had a huge number
on Thanksgiving night, right. They also do the same to
Fox and the CBS because now NBC has a better game,

(02:13):
name wise in that opening, in that early window, that
that rating will, you know, suck some of the numbers
from CBS and from Fox. So the idea that the NFL,
there's like people are out to get the Steelers, Like, dude,
you guys are undefeated, You're having a great year. You
just gotta roll with it a little bit here. That's
what I don't get. I mean, everybody else, everything is fluid, Doug,

(02:36):
we don't know right. And and I've been critical of
the NFL. I remember there was a game, I think
the Patriots played a game where there was some positive
tests and they went along with the game. And I thought,
why are they doing that when they've been postponing other games?
But they went along with that game. And in this
case I give the NFL credit. This is not the
game you want to move Thanksgiving night. You know, all

(02:59):
the eyeballs, everything else going on. You don't want to
stop that game if if you didn't have to. I
think the NFL is doing it right. All these people
have tested positive, you can't go through with it. I
understand from the Steeler's standpoint, this would have been, you know,
they played Thursday night, then they would have gotten three
or four days off, you know, until maybe come back

(03:22):
on Monday, so so they lose out on that, which
I get, but it sounds awful tone death given the
state of where we are in this country and this
world during the pandemic, and it's over a football game. Dude,
you just can't get it. Well. I mean, like, look,
this is one of the things about social media, which
it can be. You can view it as a good thing, right,

(03:43):
there's there's no filter of a pr The bad thing
is that you know, it's her average right to dump pressend. Like, dude,
just take a breath and start to realize. I fully understand,
as listening to Jef Shuertz, who is co hosting I'll
kick the covers before we're driving in, I fully understand
the idea of, hey, you thought you're gonna have a

(04:04):
five day a weekend and you're gonna work Thanksgiving, Like,
all right, we get to get it all adjusted. We'll
have dinner tomorrow, we'll have dinner after the game with
the kids or whatever. And then we had the weekend
off and they haven't had an off week Like I
get it. Hey, um, but again, it's just the idea
of let's take a breath in hell, exhale, realize all

(04:24):
the other things realize, you know, and see, that's that's
actually what Thanksgiving supposed to be about, where you realize, like, Okay,
this might suck, but we still live in America, got it.
We're on an undefeated football team, we are relatively healthy,
not even play this weekend. And oh yeah, by the way,
like whenever we play, the Ravens are gonna be depleted
and we're we're going to have week We're gonna have

(04:47):
to be the only team with a week off heading
into the playoffs because they've they've changed the bye the
byas thing with the with only one team having a bye.
I just it's the idea of Thanksgiving is to stop,
take a breath, and be thankful. And I think the
Steelers missed that. But it's part of part of what
social media provides, which is cutting out the filter and
get how people really feel in that moment, and unfortunately

(05:10):
guys feel in that moment in kind of an immature fashion.
I just I also think that we have this thing
to where we want to think everybody's out to get us, right.
It's like it's one of the deals with the election,
where like we want to think that things are rigged
and things are and you know it's really not. It's
really really not. It's the scientist and doctor said, hey man, Thanksgiving,

(05:31):
there's gonna be a second wave. It's gonna be bad.
Turns out there's a second wave. It's bad. We're all
just trying to protect the sports so that we can
get through and get to the playoffs and have a
super Bowl and maybe maybe have people at the super Bowl.
And you're so caught up in yourself that you want
to tweet about it, like I understand it, but I
just think it's not the greatest look when you're the

(05:54):
undefeated team and the other team is the team with
all the positive tests and the other part dog is
And I use this tone death from what's the reality
for everybody else and what people are going through. I
get it, it's a football game. I get it. It's
their livelihood. They make millions of dollars. I get all
that people are out here struggling with no jobs and

(06:19):
family members who have passed. I mean, just do you
look on Facebook and I can't get over how many
messages I've read, you know, from the people who are
friends of mine, you know, on Facebook, whether I know
them or not. Personally. But it's amazing. Wait, how a
they're your friends if you know them or not well,
but you know, like you could ask to be Facebook friend,

(06:42):
Facebook friends, you know what I mean. So, so I
see a lot of stuff, but I just can't get
over how many people have been touched by it. Chris Bussar,
my radio partner on The Odd Couple, lost his father
in law, you know this year to COVID. I mean,
it's touched a lot of people, and it just seems insensitive,
That's all I get it. And they're just thinking about

(07:05):
themselves at that time dog the disappointment of that game
and that moment and then some days off. I do,
but you need to pause think about it. How is
this going to look to the people who don't have
jobs and who have lost loved one. Well, I would say,
you know that the pushback. This is the Dan Patrick's Show,
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(07:26):
Doug Gotti been for Dan, the Dennetts. I would say,
like if we had the legit discussion, it's one of
the things that sports has provided, right, Like if we
do go into like in La County, obviously they're in
some form of stay at home at ten o'clock order.
And I don't really understand why you can't eat outside
of the restaurant, but whatever, like Jill, let's just kind

(07:47):
of get through it people. But the um, it's fascinating
to me. The sports do provide an escape, Like if
we're stuck at home, it's so much better when they're
works on TV. And that was gonna be a fun game.
That was gonna be a game of two teams that
don't like each other. And as much as the Steelers
record wise seem dominant over the Ravens, last time was

(08:09):
a four point game which Lamar Jackson had the ball,
a chance to win it and the games suck, right,
and the Steelers got four turnovers in that game to
win by four. If you remember that, yes, yes, so
um so yeah, I mean I actually think four people
who are at work. But yes, the lack of perspective,
it's not the strongest look. Do I think it's do?

(08:31):
I do? I think Eric Ebron and Chase Claypool are
bad people for being ticked Like nah, I think that's
that's real and that's understandable. I just think that next
time they could kind of pause a little bit and
have a better feel for all. That's all that's going on.
What's what's left is your Lions. What's left is the Texans,
which I thank thankfully we'll get to that. What's left

(08:52):
is the Washington football team against the Dallas Cowboys. You
could you couldn't pick two worst games for real for
people to watch on thanksgame. I almost think that's the
genius to it. I almost think I don't think, so
are you gonna watch? Yeah, I'll watch. This is like
this is like Tyson, Roy Jones. There's no reason to

(09:13):
watch Mike. What people forget Mike Tyson has We've created
this kind of mythical lure of Mike Tyson because when
he first came into the boxing world, everybody was scared
to day. We came in with just that towel, right
and no socks, black shoes, and he would and the
fight was over Ford started right. But if you remember,
Mike Tyson was a bad fighter at the end of

(09:37):
his he the reason he bit Vander Holyfield's ear was
he was frustrated because he's getting his ass kicked, right,
So he was bad. Yeah, but Roy Jones was bad.
Like Roy Jones was, I actually played a professional basketball
game against Roy Jones. Did you win that? What was that? That?
The sbl usbl right, he had thirty one and again
he took thirty one shots, but he had had one.

(09:57):
I'll tell we can tell that story later. But but
those these are two guys that were washed up fifteen
years ago, twenty years ago, and they're gonna have a fight,
which they're not gonna score, but they're gonna whatever, and
people are gonna buy. I guess the thing is that
it's it's one of those in football, one you could
bet on it. Two you've got fantasy football, and three

(10:19):
it doesn't matter what the NFL puts on. We watch.
We just do. People say, I don't watch the Pro Bowl.
I don't know the Pro Bowl out rates NBA NBA
playoff games. They just watch. And so yeah, that is
are these are not good games, But maybe that only
proves the NFL's power in their point, like, yeah, we
can throw whatever on at a Lion's Cowboys. Do you

(10:40):
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bring in Sean Merriman, of course, lights out great player,
Rookie of the Year in the National Football League. Huh yeah,

(13:11):
of course is a tough guy. Um. What's Sean? First
of all, Happy Thanksgiving? Second of all, what's your reaction
to Bruce arians openly criticizing Tom Brady. Well, I just
don't believe in that in general. Um. And as much
as I'm a Tom Brady hater for life and I'm
not afraid to make that, um, I don't think you

(13:32):
should be doing that because that that just creates turmoil
in the locker room. I mean, we all got eyes.
We can see what the problem is. We're seeing that
Tom Brady hasn't completed a good past past thirty yards
down the field. We can all we can all tell that,
but we don't need the finger point in the locker room.
I mean, Tom Brady has never been a guy. Again,

(13:52):
as much as highlight the bash and tall crap about Tom,
tom Brady has never been the guy that's called out
anybody publicly, not a coach, not am, not anybody on
the staff. He's never done that, So I will always
give him credit for that. But also too, you got
to look at You knew what you was getting when
he got there. You knew what type of player Tom
Brady was. And they got all these people who do

(14:14):
the statistics and analyze and you know, analytics and do
everything like that in house, and you saw that Tom
Brady is not a great pass or the last five
to seven years over twenty five yards. You know that.
So if you get down there and you don't have
a system in place for a guy that's not accurate
over you know, thirty yards, why would you bring him in?

(14:36):
So they created the problem. They had opportunities. I mean,
they had opportunities to go get multiple players during the
off season, and didn't you know you had an opportunity
opportunity to go get Cam Newton, You had an opportunity
to get uh you know, I think Jamis was there,
and I'm not I'm not saying that any one of
these guys better than Tom. I'm just saying that that
if you have a system requires you to throw the

(14:56):
ball down the field and make big plays. Go that guy.
Don't be mad of Tom because he's not accurate over
over twenty yards. You created that problem, Sean. Also, Tom
Brady in that game where they lost to the Rams,
walked off the field, didn't shake Jared Goff's hand. And
I get it. Tom has won a lot six Super Bowls,

(15:19):
a lot of people of crown the guy. I just
think it's class list because he's done it before. When
he when he beat Jared Golf in the Super Bowl,
of course he was there to shake his hand, but
he walked out on Nick Foles during the Super Bowl
when Nick Foles played an unbelievable game and won Super
Bowl MVP. And earlier this year when Nick Foles beat

(15:39):
him again, Tom Brady was a no show, you know,
to shake his hand. What do you make of that?
And isn't that a bad look for a guy of
his his stature? Yeah? Absolutely, And you know, I got
a theory and I don't know him right, but I've
been saying this now. Um, I always thought that he
had something against Nick Foles. I don't know what that
something is or what Nick Foles said. Did Yeah, I

(16:00):
thought he had something to personally getting against Nick Foles,
but I felt he also ran off, ran off into
the locker room again to make it not about Nick Foles,
because that's what he talked about for his past year. Okay,
that's we all, so so let men, can we can
we let's just flush this out here. Yeah, Sean Mirman
joining us, uh, Rob Parker, Doug Gottlieb. We're all just

(16:21):
for just for radio world out there. We all know
each other and generally like each other. So like, let's
let's pretend this is like a little zoom call um, Sean,
do you think it's he doesn't view Foles on his level?
He's like, are you kidding me? This is the guy
who wins the Super Bowl? Like I know who Nick like?
And I mean, is it is? It? Is that? Possibly? It?

(16:43):
I mean what I'm trying to get into his mind
of what he could have against Nick Foles, who's by
all accounts seeing as a really good dude. Like I
know Nick a little bit. He lives near me in
the offseason. I've played hoop with him. He seems like
a guy that everybody likes. He's a very religious guy.
But Rman friendly doesn't seem to be a phonyon and
Dougie had a most he had an unbelievable super Bowl game, right,

(17:06):
he had unbelievable super Bowl. But like, do you think
he's sitting there going like, wait, we didn't play Malcolm Butler.
This guy is not that good and he has this
unbelievable he wins a super Bowl. And if you remember
that Super Bowl, others, the Patriots actually never punted in it.
Brady turned it over to really end the game. He
misread the defense and got hit. But they missed a

(17:27):
field goal, they missed an extra point. Whatever. My only
thing I can think of is maybe he thinks, here's
a guy who won a super Bowl against me and
he's not on my level. Do you have any hypotheses
as what it could possibly be. Yeah, I think that's
exactly what it is, because you gotta understand it. After
Nick Foles won a game, I mean, people are talking
about him like he was the best thing since like bread, right,

(17:49):
I mean, we all put Nick Foles on a pedestal
that he shouldn't have never been. He just played the
perfect game. They ran perfect play callings. I mean, he
caught these guys off guards and the Patriots the hills
the entire time it was a perfectly called game, and
after that game, everybody wanted to crown Nick Foless as
some great quarterback, which he was nowhere close to being. Now,

(18:14):
you know, Tom Brady looking looking at from his standpoint,
I would be I would be pissed too, but not
pissed enough to go and just shake the man's hand.
So when when that happened, I just feel like it
was something a little bit more personal, maybe something Nick
Foles said or did. And like you said, I've seen him.
You know, he's had great religious rants right after the

(18:36):
game until I can tell what kind of guy he is.
But you know, there has to be something else there
in order for him to do that, because it can't
be because you just won one game against them. It
has to be something more. And then, my I just
have this strange feelain that it was always about Nick Foles,
always about Nick Foles, and now Tom Brady has to

(18:57):
run off the field of someone else to take it
not about folks. I just don't believe. I just don't
believe that Tom Brady, with the spotlight on him and
him knowing that the backlash he's gonna get by not
shaking another guy's hand, were continuously doing so. I just
have to feel that he has to do something to
mix it up. And and Sean, there's no way Tom,

(19:19):
people say, the minions, who will support Tom Brady, Oh well,
he's just frustrated. He didn't play well and he's just mad.
My point is, if they lose to the Kansas City
Chiefs and Tom Brady doesn't play well, do you think
he'll run off the field and not shake Patrick Mahomes's hand. No,
no way, no, not at all, not at You can't

(19:41):
give me a no way, no howiving day morning all happened. Look,
he's gone up. He's gone up to Drew, to Drew Brees,
He's gone up to other great quarterbacks. He's gone up
to some guys school not great quarterbacks. I just think
that Tom has a certain level of respect for certain guys.

(20:01):
Um and it's not anything, uh, you know, he's not
like the store loser. I just believe that he had
he picks and chooses who he show respect to. And
if that was anybody else other than Tom Brady, we
will be slamming him all over the place. But you know,
his supporters and people just love him to death will
support him no matter what. But it's it's at the

(20:22):
end of the day, it's just it's not right. You
know something I want to ask you about Sean Merriman,
our guest Rob Parker, Doug gotleibn for for Dan and
the Dan Nettes um. One of the things lost in
that game is the Rams appear to be really good, right,
And what the Rams did to the Buccaneers is kind
of similar to what the Giants did to the Patriots

(20:43):
in the Super Bowl both times, which is the ability
to get to Tom Brady without blitzing. Right. And by
the way, this is what the Rams did to the
Seahawks is they could they could get to Russell Wilson
without blitzing. And a lot of this comes down to
Aaron Donald and his dominance, which attracts a double team
and sometimes even more. Look, you were great at what

(21:04):
you did, Sean. You came off the edge, you weren't
the interior pass rusher, but you weren't able to sustain
it for nearly as long because because of injury. I'm
just wondering, from a guy who's been down in those trenches,
who who does Aaron Donald compared to because he's so
he's unbelievably dominant at a position that we don't normally
recognize as such. You can't compare with anybody because we

(21:28):
haven't seen anything like this. And I've played with some
great D tackles. You know. I played with a guy
by the name of Jamal Williams, who who's more of
a big guy who took up two blockers in a
three four scheme. And then I went to Buffalo and
played with Kyle Williams. And Kyle Williams, I mean, look,
if Buffalo had a you know, winning years and they
had more TV games, we would put Kyle Williams up

(21:51):
there in some of the greatest D tackles of all time.
But he's not talked about enough because they didn't get
to shine so and I just he's you know, he's
a Pro Bowl player, but he would have won multiple
Pro Bowls if Buffalo had more visual and things like
they have more TV games that we haven't seen anything
like Aaron Donald before. Because this guy is doing this.

(22:11):
People don't understand beat the outside linebacker to have you know,
double just sacked every year if you're really good, you know,
that seems about right. You cap doing what he's doing
for the interior and knowing that you're coming into the
game and he's going to get double and triple teams,
and the way he gets so creative to get skinny
between that guard and that center, to turn his hips

(22:33):
and explode through guys and play mind games and run
stunts and go and hit an opposite guard on the
other side that's not looking just when you can blow
another guy up and get there still. It's just he's
gotten so creative and so dangerous that he like Lawrence
Taylor did long long time ago man and the way
people block him and how he you know, the reason

(22:55):
why the short pass game and quick game was created
was because of Lawrence Taylor. And what's happening when we're
seeing right now with Aaron Donald. They're about to change
the game. They're gonna start having to do something that
they've never done in the history of football in noters
to block him. Sean. Today is, of course Thanksgiving, and
one of the traditions in the NFL is that the

(23:16):
Detroit Lions play Doug and I are going to talk
about this later on in the show, but and this
has been going on. The Lions first play the Thanksgiving
their game back in nineteen thirty four. So it's long standing.
I covered twenty years of those games. But is it
time for the Lions to be off and maybe somebody else?
Should we end this tradition of the Lions being our

(23:37):
Thanksgiving Day pre game because pre meal game that we've
watched all these years. They have to, you know, they
have to. Look. I stopped watching the Lions with things
given when Barry sam Is retired, you know, like right,
you know what I mean? I love watching Megatron and
Matthew Staffing and things like that. They've been excited, but

(23:59):
I just like, man, what do they sign a fifty
five year deal? I just don't know and understand how
the games aren't more competitive, because, as we all know,
people watch the games for stars, right, I mean, the
NFL has kind of turned into the NBA as far
as the stardom and why being in to watch a
Patrick and Holmes and being there to watch uh, you know,

(24:22):
big time quarterbacks and running backs and playmakers. I mean,
that's what the NFL is now. So when that's the case,
you have to have them on one of the most
important parts of the year, um and make it enjoyable
for these especially these tough times we're going through. We
need to see some we need to see some stars
and some excitement. I don't I just don't think that
enough people are going to be sitting in front of
the TV to watch the watch the line. Sean Merman,

(24:45):
join us. You got the lights Out podcast? What's what's
on the latest lights Out podcast? Yeah? We just had
Tyron Whitley Man. We you know, as you guys know, Rob,
we talked about it. Yeah, you know, I'm heavy into
the MMMA, I got my my lights out extreme fighting
mine in a league. What should be getting backed up
here as soon as our our governor get his stuff
together in California. Um, but yeah, so I had Tyron

(25:08):
William We just talked about his last his last fights
man and him wanting to fight everybody lost again. So, um,
I'm interested. I can't wait to see what what's gonna
happen here when we get back up and going again. Yeah,
you're gonna buy Tyson and no way, no how, you're
not gonna buy that show. I'm I am, I am

(25:29):
because you know look I oh and I always said this, right,
I don't care how old Mike Tyson is, he always
gonna have one punch, it's gonna be able to knock
you out, and that I'll pay for him, so, uh,
you know, and then also you know, I don't know
if you guys into it, but Jake Paul, Jake Paul
is also fighting Nate Robinson, I think on that card.
And I got a chance to train with with Jake
Paul train j okay can he does he have any chance?

(25:53):
Jake Paul's gonna probably knock Nick Robinson out somewhere in
the late first, early second. Really just NCA now Nate, Nate,
I mean Nate, I mean Nate was known in NBA
circles as a dude who you didn't want to mess with. Now,
part of it is little guys have nothing to lose,
exactly right, like nothing to lose. But but Nate was

(26:14):
Nate was the guy who could flip the switch on you.
But you really think Jake Paul is really gonna get him? Yeah,
after Jake Paul win, I mean we were pushing him
to go pro. I think he should turn to be
a pro box. He's that good. I think he has
a shot. Um. He has a former pro trainer and
I've watched him over his last two years in personal
workouts and spawn matches against some of the pros. I

(26:36):
think he should go pro after this fight. Wow, Sean
fight anybody in the media who would you fight? No, uh,
there's there's there's several. I thought, So, okay, we're having
connection issues with Jean Merriman. It would have been would

(26:58):
have been the talking crap with me when I was playing.
I'm good with everybody now, but back when I was playing,
I had I got a couple of people I would
have loved to lay out. Hey Sean, happy, Thanks you
get man, Thanks happy, thank you all right, Sean Merivan.
Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be
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(27:20):
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FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. What Up.
Welcome in Happy Thanksgiving Doug Gottlieb, Rob Parker in for
Dan and the Danets. As uh, you know, Thanksgiving is
supposed to be about food and family and fun, and honestly,

(27:44):
the best supporting event today is probably the one on
Fox Kansas taken on Gonzaga. In both teams opening basketball game,
because no, I'm just I'm saying, like, that's a great
college basketball game with two teams to win a national championship,
could have won it in the last year with some
new pieces this year, and that's better then the NFL
games because the big NFL game we were supposed to
have was Ravens Steelers and that won't be played until Sunday.

(28:08):
If it's played, its Sunday because there's more positive tests
coming out of the Ravens, no doubt and Doug before
we move and talk about football and Tom Brady just curious. Yeah,
you're married, have a family. Is your wife a good cook?
Because everybody you know my late mom was an excellent cook,
and I just remember, like, uh, you know all the

(28:32):
good meals and cakes and pies and everything she used
to make. Is your wife a good cook? Yes? So amazing, unbelievable.
That's that's Rob. That's the du I look fat in
these pants quite. I actually have a daughter. Uh my daughter,
Grace is she's our culinary specialist. Like she's so excited
about today, I said, she's she loves to cook and

(28:54):
help out. Okay, so I've I have twin fourteen year
old daughters, um and her sister. Actually, she she has
a couple of things she likes to make. She she
loves mashed potatoes. She's gonna make the mashed potatoes. But
Grace is like she's got the whole meal planned out,
and she you know, she watches YouTube and cooking shows
and whatever. Like we're actually we think like she may

(29:18):
culinary maybe her thing, but she's very, very excited. She
makes mocktails and cocktails as well. Yeah, so, uh, Grace
is more and and I love to cook. I don't
have any kids, but I'm sure as as dog to
see like one of your kids like latcho onto something
like you know what I mean. And and you can

(29:40):
see like you know, this might be her path. This
she might open up her restaurant totally totally because yes,
well here's the thing. Okay, So Grace and I, um,
I would say, people think I think we look alike.
She doesn't think she has she's got kind of sandy
brown blonde hair with her curly hair, but um, we

(30:00):
both have the same color eyes. There's parts of our
features that look alike. But she doesn't like any of
the things. Many of the things that she likes I'm not.
She doesn't. She's not into sports at all. Right, she
likes the Panthers because she's a big she has a cat.
She loves all kinds of cats. Right, that's but but music.

(30:21):
We can talk some music, although I'd have no sort
of understanding. She plays instruments. She has a musical ear.
But the thing that we do let we both love
to cook, and I mean love to cook. So I
think the first thing is that it's something you can
relate to with your kid, Like we'll both stand around
and neither of us like to clean when we cook,
so that's a problem. But we both loved we'd love

(30:43):
to cook and try each other's food. And you know,
she there's certain spices that she likes that nobody else
likes in our family. But she anyway, she pushes the envelope.
So I think that's the first cool thing. The second
thing is the other part that you mentioned, which is like, look,
you kind of got to help them find their passion.
And her twin sister is a very high level horse rider,

(31:04):
and and they she wants to She thinks she wants
to ride horses, but it's hard because she's constantly comparing
herself to her twin sister, and they're nothing alike as
as people, and so yes, I agree with you that
it's one of the great parts about it is something
that she's pretty good at. She's passionate about it, and
you can find a way to foster it and say, hey,

(31:25):
you know, you're pretty good at this, and people do like,
like everybody likes her food so um. But you know,
she's she's a mess. So I know what I'm coming
home too. But she'll she'll wake up soon and start
texting me about throwing the bird in. She wants to
smoke the bird. I think the other members of the
family like, let's just be safe and bake the bird.
And so we'll see who kind of wins out when

(31:47):
when when I when I get home, did you like
to cook with your kid? I did not. I like
to eat. Um. I know how to cook because my
mom taught me, you know, like mine, which which worked
out to be good. Because I want up getting divorce
and being a bachelot. I do need to know how
to cook a little something. But my mom taught me.
She used to write me recipes. When I went away
to college, she wrote me recipes to make a couple

(32:10):
of meals for myself, and so she was really the cook.
And but she taught me so I know a little bit. Yeah,
my mom my mom worked when I was a kid,
and so she taught me how to cook so that
when I came home as a latch key kid, I
could make myself some to eat and you know. And
so that's one of the things that I've been big
on teaching our kids. It's just the basics. Have had

(32:31):
a cook. And my son's not great. He's the only
one who doesn't. Doesn't He'll make a microwave burrito and
he'll make popcorn and that's about it. But my daughters do.
They can, you know. The other one can can cook
some and she makes some good little stuff whatever. She
likes salt a little bit too much. I mean she
made some broccoli last night, like, man, where's the where's

(32:51):
the broccoli? I just taste the salt. But but yes,
I was I was the same. This is the Dan
Patrick shell here on Fox Sport. Trade your favorite side
Thanksgiving us what uh? I would say? It would be um,
sweet potatoes, like just mash sweet potatoes, delicious. Now you
would not do candy yams. You stid. Do the sweet

(33:12):
potatoes instead. Yeah, I'll do both. I like both, but
but I could do like I'll do a sweet potato
like a baked potato, you know what I mean. Put
in a microwave, smash it and put some butter on top,
and I'm good. All right, all right, I can't. I
can't find any fault with that. I mind. I love
the dressing. I love dressing. A dressing is stuffing, not
stuffed inside the turkey. I love the dressing. It's just

(33:35):
if you know, you put some turkey on its own,
is good, Put it with some dressing, put it with
some I like that. I like the crank the canned
cranberry everybody, really, I never like cranberry sauce. I don't need.
I don't like the sauce. I like the little you know,
the little with it actually has like the can marks
and you take it out right, right. I actually like
that with the turkey and with the dressing. Okay, that's

(33:57):
that's a person. That's a traditional meal, right, it is
a tradition. Let me tell you who's been playing like
a turkey. Can't you do that? Yeah it's Tom Brady doug.
Let's just be honest the corner. Yes, yes, indeed, I
just I'm not so sure that tom Brady's going to
finish out the second year in Tampa. I'm really not

(34:19):
if this thing continues to go south and either they
get knocked out of the playoffs quickly or don't make
the playoffs, which they should. They're seven and four, but
it could come undone. The schedule is very favorable for
them to win their games and make the playoffs. But uh,
and the way Bruce arians has handled him and called

(34:40):
him out, even going back to that first game Doug
against the Saints, you know where he had some stuff
to say about tom Brady, even way back when game one.
And tom Brady if he continues to struggle and he has,
especially with the long ball and against the better teams
in the better defenses. Because ultimately, when you go get

(35:03):
sign and signed Tom Brady, you didn't sign Tom Brady
to make the playoffs. You signed a forty three year
old quarterback with an unbelievable resume and six Super bowls
to try to win a Super Bowl. Right, you feel
like you have all the other pieces and if we
add this guy, add some water and stir that we're

(35:24):
gonna go to the super Bowl. That is what the
expectation was, not to make the playoffs for Tom Brady's
last two years in the NFL. That that's not really
what it's about. And right now I don't see them there.
You don't think they're gonna make the playoffs. I don't
see them as a real threat yet in the postseason. Okay, well,
there's they're playing the way that they're playing, there's there's

(35:46):
a there's a lot to it. Okay, the first thing is, no,
he did not play well. I think I have said
previously and I stand by it. It's a bad fit.
You have a you have a coach like Tom Brady
is about precision. Tom Brady is about accuracy everything underneath.
And since Randy Moss left New England, who are the

(36:07):
guys who have had the most success, right, whether it's
Welker than Edelman, it would and Rob Gronkowski underneath stuff
finding mismatches for Gronk, you know, all within ten to
fifteen yards of the line of scrimmage, precision routes, option
routes on third down, and that's the opposite of what
they're doing. And I think in many ways we had

(36:29):
it all wrong or many people had it all wrong
in that, well, you know, and they're not wrong in
that New England does needed threats outside the numbers, but
he's he doesn't throw outside the numbers. He didn't have to,
He just needed the space to do so. I mean,
it's and you're right in his skills on some level

(36:49):
of diminished, which is why New England turned to try
and create a power running game, right, That's why they
drafted a first round running back and loaded up that
backfield because they knew they had to create time for
him and the best way to do so was running
the football, not with having him stretch the defense down
down the field. That just wasn't who who he is.
And the reason he's had success with the Edelmans, the Welkers,

(37:11):
the Rochet Calwells, the Troy Browns is those guys are
intelligent wide receivers who know where they're supposed to be
and are where they're supposed to be when they're supposed
to be there and catch it when he throws it
to him. And what he has now is more talent,
But it's guys that are more talent in terms of
more traditional true wide receiver routes, not the crossing stuff,
not the you know, not the stuff within ten yards

(37:33):
of the line of scrimmage. So and then you you
take in how Bruce arians has always coached. It's a
it's a bad fit. So we don't even truly have
a sense of where Tom Brady is at this point
in his career because he's trying to he's trying to
use somebody else's remote control to do what he's always
done and it ain't. It ain't working. Like here's the look.

(37:54):
You've been blessed in your TV career, but I would
guess in your radio and your print career it's been different.
But in that who you worked for for the most
part in terms of on a day to day when
you were at ESPN, right when you're on First Take yep,
and back when it was first in ten and then
it was first Take right exactly that was going to
Cole Pizza day. But most of that group from Skip

(38:19):
obviously Shannon, you know, Shannon is different, but most of
that group when you came over to Fox, those people
who were in charge, they hired you to be you
to do what you do correct absolutely okay, which is brilliant,
which is why you have succeeded and your your reputation
has grown. I can tell you from my from when

(38:41):
I switched from ESPN to CBS, like my thing was
always like, why did you guys hire me? And I
guess I should have asked myself why did I take
this job? Because I was I from my commentary to
my style, to all the different things I was doing.
I'd always done radio, TV, games, studio right, I'd always
done that. They'd never had anybody who did all those things,

(39:04):
had to juggle those schedules, was willing to work more
and more and more and more and more, and had
had what I think we're strong opinions. They struggled with
the fact that I wasn't like anybody they had, and
I didn't have somebody who was in management or in
production and day to day who'd ever worked with me before.
So their language and their way of doing things was

(39:25):
so different that neither were particularly happy or comfortable for
a long time. No, I get that. That makes total
sense to me from that standpoint. And I see what
you're saying. We're Brady and Arians and Tampa Bay. But
but you can't be Tom Brady thinking that you're going
to work for You're going to work for Bill Belichick,

(39:47):
who's done it for you for twenty years. You know,
like like, I think Brady miscalculated as well, no question,
am I right y? I'm sure I'm sure he thought.
I'm sure he thought. Look, this is the opposite of
what I've been doing, right, what I've been doing is
regimented what I've been doing his cold weather, no fun,
Go do you do your job whatever? And Bruce arians
is like, look, man, whatever you want to do, will

(40:10):
do right, because that's what they always say when they're recruiting.
Keep in mind, keep keep in mind. Brady wanted to
play for the Chargers. Okay, he wanted to play for
the Chargers because he had an offensive coordinator that was young,
that he could really work with, that he could mold,
didn't have somebody, didn't have a head coach who was
going to get into his business. As far as play calling,
they had not only did they have really good wide receiver,

(40:30):
they had a very good tight end. They had good
stuff in terms of you know, Keenan Allen is more
of a an underneath sort of guy than to take
the top off guy like I think you want. But
it was too far for his wife and too far
for his family, and she wanted to do Miami, and
they weren't any good right, and he didn't want to
do Miami. Don't want to play in the same division
as the Patriots like that just didn't make sense. So

(40:51):
Tampa was somewhere in the middle. That was the reason
he made the decision. Whereas the reason you should make
a decision in life should not be about money, should
not necessarily to be about location, and should be about
fit for what you do and how you do it.
And it's a bad fit. Now will he play his
second year, I don't know. I think it all depends
upon how it ends. The interesting thing about the second

(41:13):
year is how many Patriots have left the Patriots and
the first year they were good, and the second year
is an abject disaster. Yep. Many We've seen that with
some guys who have moved on, and that could happen
here with Brady especially. I agree, Dog, if this ends
badly this season, you know what I mean. And then

(41:33):
what I mean is say they make the playoffs and
Brady's has an awful game and has two pick sixes,
or just doesn't play well and looks old and doesn't
look good, then all the criticism will come down. He
got we gave you everything you wanted whatever, and and
you don't expect anybody to get better as they get older,
unless there's a blue pill involved, you know what I mean.

(41:55):
But but like, look, this is how it traditionally ends
with quarterbacks. This is how it ends. I mean, remember
the playoff game which led to Damn Marino retiring, where
you know they just got humiliated by the Jacksonville Jaguars, right,
I mean, even I'm pay manning. They won the Super Bowl,
but he was awful. He was awful. Couldn't throw a football.

(42:17):
You know. John Elway wasn't great at the end. I know,
I know he helicoptered in the end zone. But they
won because Terrell Davis the offensive line, they had a
great defense. They ran the football. Brett fav ended his
career with an interception. Right, well, no, he remembered. And
then he came back the next year. Did he come back? Yes?
Remember that that was when they got on the plane
and got him off the tractor brought him back. He
had that terrible Nike hat. It was like his favorite hat.

(42:39):
And here's how bad it was. In Minnesota. He got hurt,
the streak ended, and the metrodome actually the roof collapsed, right.
It was symbolic of the end of his career. So
this is actually very normal for how it ends. Even
though he looks better, he looks younger, his teeth, his hair,
his skin looks amazing. Right, He's forty three years old,

(43:01):
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Christina Pink is going to be on the sideline of

(44:28):
Fox's Call of the Cowboys and the Washington football team.
There's a Thanksgiving tradition, right, we get the Lions and
we get the Cowboys. Now we get Washington against the
Cowboys traditional rivalry, and Christina joins us. Now on the
Dan Patrick's Show, and Christina it's interesting. Happy Thanksgiving to you.
What you're gonna work and then are you gonna have

(44:49):
a meal as or a crewmeal? Like, how does it
actually work? Well? Thankfully, being here in Dallas and working
with Troy the last couple of years we've been here
here had us over at at costa to eight men,
So I'm very appreciative of that. So I think he'll
have a little sumthon for the crew working after the game. Excellent. Um, okay,

(45:13):
so what both of these teams if you look at
their records, if you look at the injuries, especially the
Cowboys have suffered, both of these teams, you would think
playing for draft position. But then you look at the division, like,
both these teams could easily win this division. What's the
mood around these teams heading into the Thanksgiving Day game?
I know, it's pretty bizarre because I was talking to

(45:37):
a couple of Washington players yesterday and I'm like, look,
I mean, realistically, you guys could end up winning the
division or you could end up with a top five
pick like this is and it's like, yeah, twenty twenty,
that's that's the way it is. We feel like there's
an opportunity here and we have to take advantage. And
you know, the other thing is they're playing on a
big stage. They haven't played in the prime time all year.

(45:58):
They know everybody's watching, and everyone kind of has that
feel of like this is the game we can show out.
This is a game where we can tell people that
we're kind of turning the tide. And obviously the mood
is is a little different with Dallas, with everything that
happened this week, so I think it's kind of unique
with the emotions that are going to be writing both
teams coming into this game. Christina, how is your job

(46:21):
changed with COVID and dealing with players and being around
How does that work? It's crazy? I mean I really,
I know you introduced me as a sideline reporter. I
haven't been on a sideline off these then, so it
is it's pretty crazy. I'm in the first row of
every stadium is kind of designated as what we call

(46:42):
the moat, and that is where I do all of
my reporting in game from the first row of the stands,
and during the week it's really all calls. You know,
a lot of my information, which was my favorite part,
would be coming from game day, like talking to assistant coaches,
talking to players, especially when you have us where guys
are questionable or last minute injuries. Being able to talk

(47:03):
to people before the game. I've still been able to
do that a little bit. Um. You know, obviously it's
socially distanced talking to guys like when a're in near
the tunnel or coaches at halftime. But for the most part,
all of that legwork happens during the week via zoom
or conference calls or like meeds talking to guys individually
all before the game. So it is a little different. Um.

(47:25):
Hopefully we get it back to normal one day, but
for right now, we've we've kind of made it work.
But I do miss the in person interactions that you
get from going to practices and talking to guys before
the game on the field. Yeah, no, it's I mean
those those meetings and being around the field. That's where
you you know, he learned about those teams. They tell

(47:46):
you about other teams and about other like everything else
going on the league. I only did it once. I
can't imagine doing an entire season, but it is it
is mind blowing at all the different information that you're
able to and people, and you've been doing it long enough,
you know everybody in the league. Christina Pink joins you
will see her and hear her voice as part of
Fox's coverage of the Washington football team taken on the

(48:06):
Dallas Cowboys. There is a great story, right, I mean,
Alex Smith playing football is a pretty remarkable story that
I'm sure we'll be told several times over today. But
what is the feeling around Washington terms of his level
of effectiveness? I will tell you that, by the way,
I honestly think that more people are concerned about Alex

(48:30):
Smith and Alex Smith is about himself because you know,
you watch him, you see what he's gone through the
last two years, and he's taking hits out there, he's
getting sacked, and you know, talking to him, he's like, ah,
I feel comfortable out there. I feel fine. I'm not
thinking about it. But people do feel like, especially was
talking with Bron Rivera, that he'll get better as the

(48:51):
season's gone on. I was actually just looking at some
of Washington's numbers and the first six weeks compared to
now the last few weeks of the season, completely different
teams offensively, and they do feel like he's getting a
lot sharper as the weeks go on, he's a lot
comfortable they can open up the offense more. And obviously
he's playing for Scott Turning played for North before, so
there is some familiarity and he's getting more comfortable as

(49:12):
the season's going on. But they do feel like he's effective.
He's helping a really really young receiver Corps as well.
How About on the Dallas side, Mike McCarthy's now a
cut rate Gallagher with smashing watermelons. It was a terrible
start for him, and I mean there's three and seven,
but it was the hinges were coming undone early on

(49:35):
down there in Dallas for him. Where's Mike McCarthy at
in his head and his hold on that football team?
I think he feels pretty good from our conversations with
him yesterday. I do think that people don't talk enough,
which obviously no one's making excuses for all the injuries
they've had this year, but if you put it, they

(49:55):
could probably you know, have like an all star team
of guys that they've got in the tree room right now.
And when you lose Dak that's pretty significant. I know
Leddy Dalton played pretty well last week, but I think
they feel like in these last couple of games, especially
obviously their defense hasn't played well this season. If they
can come together on the defensive side of the all
that would be the big difference makes before them. You know,

(50:18):
it's it's interesting they got rid of you know, they
got rid of some guys mid season. Did that change
the level of buying in that locker room? Well, I
can tell you that I think yes. But I also
think it's very notable that other teams have pointed that out.
You know, talking to some of the Washington guys, they said,

(50:40):
this is a very different team. We all saw what
happened in the first game, but all the moves they
made defensively, like this is a different team that was
going to be facing on Thanksgiving Day. So I do
think not only obviously there's a buying a change, you know,
kind of like a different energy when you make those
kinds of moves. But it's notable that other teams have
brought that up as well. How about Ezekiel Elliott and

(51:02):
when the Cowboys a couple of years ago, We're really good.
It was about him running first and Dak throwing second,
and then somehow it got switched around and Dak started
throwing more and Ezekiel started running less or not as
much or not as effective. I guess maybe as Ezekiel.
I think he had a hundred yards his last game.

(51:25):
How important is he to get back to being able
to be a productive runner and will that help the
Cowboys win? Well, it's huge, of course, and I you know,
he's coming off of a good game. I also know
he's been really good traditionally playing on Thanksgiving, He's averaged
one hundred and thirty three scrimmage yards, so it could

(51:46):
be the breakout day for him. And I think that
will you know, go a long way towards what Dallas
wants to do here, kind of making a push towards
the end of the season. But it is it's kind
of on his legs. There's been a little bit of
a shift over the year years, but I think especially
with the injury to Doc and their their offense trying
to find a groove, it does need to lean a
bit more on Beak and we might see that here

(52:08):
in the last few weeks of the season. Now now
part of what we should discussed. I know you're going
to have to bring it up today. There's this tragedy
where Marcus Paul, who look like the picture of health
fifty four years old. He had some sort of medical
emergency and he died at fifty four. They had to,
you know, they canceled practice one day and the next
day they did everything kind of virtually. I would have

(52:31):
to think that that's got to be really hard to
go to work. I mean, if you've been around a
college or professional football team, the strength coach is the
guy that's the connective tissue between the position coaches, the
coordinators and the players because they're totally bought into just
making the players right, making the players better. How are

(52:53):
these guys dealing with such a tragic event. It's awful.
It's really awful, And I can't imagine what they're going
through right now to have to get back to the
facility yesterday and then have to play a game, and
you know, like it's you guys are really great at
compartmentalizing in this league. But this is fresh. You know,

(53:17):
we talked to yesterday when we were talking to coach McCarthy.
This was even prior to the announcement of the passing yesterday,
So this is just coming in like twenty four hours
before they have to significantly. It's a division game and
so tough. It's really difficult for them. You're going to
have guys a lot of emotion playing through this, and

(53:38):
it's very stoic from everything I've heard just around the facility.
You know, guy, it's been tough, you know, And I
don't know if there's any other way to say it,
then it's just it's been difficult there. It's been really
tough on them. Christine. Were there other players around when
this happened? Was he in his office and somebody found him?
Like do you? I mean? And it's not for more
but details, but I can only I can only imagine

(54:00):
and that if certain players were around him and saw
it happen, it becomes you know, even even harder to
even harder to come back from quick Not sure, Yeah,
I'm not sure specifically who was there. I know it
was in the facility on what was that That would
have been Tuesday morning and that's why they you know,
they closed the facility and he had um you know,

(54:21):
as they described a medical emergency. The training staff looked
at him and then he went to the hospital. But
you know, I it's going to be a really difficult
not just a difficult day, a difficult week. Um, obviously
it's going to affect the Cowboys organization, their players, their staff.
But even Ron Rivera brought up this week that he

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played with him in Chicago, so everybody's thinking about him,
and so it is, it's it's it's really really tough. Yeah.
He was a great player back at two time All
American and Syracuse of course, played five season in the
Nation Football League and it was with the Giants organization.
But I think eleven years and you've been with the
out of winning, he's done a lot of winning. Why
he was with the Patriots and the Giants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,

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I mean it's yeah, kind of a remarkable personal story.
Well listen, Christina, I hate dand on a bad Nope,
but we do appreciate you joining everything. Wish you a
happy Thanksgiving, crush it today as you have been all
season long. And thanks for being our guests. Oh, thank
you so much. Guy. Wishing you a great Thanksgiving to
all you guys and you know, hopefully enjoy it out
there in California. Thank you. That's Chris, Christina, Christina Pink.

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