Did Kawhi Just Shoot Himself Out of Toronto?

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was gonna say, yeah, I'm sure that was good stuff. Yeah, definitely, definitely.
How are you all? Is goodful day. The sun finally
came out. But everything is great. It's a Monday. We
got to see some great basketball and I can't wait
to talk about it. We really did we it was
it was good. I did much better than baseball. Would
you stop? Because I was gonna says, you know, I

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was at Dodger Stadium first before the basketball. Shame you
didn't even see the game Friday night, you know I did?
What what Friday night? What do you mean? Oh, you're
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about the same. No, no, no, you missed that Golden State,
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So come on, let's kick some ass. Will rob In
a weekend, as you stated, of tremendous basketball and not
only tremendous games Golden State, Houston, Denver, Portland, but also

(03:21):
big news the Lakers hiring Frank Vogel to just about
everyone's surprise, is their head coach in Kidd right, right,
and even today it's obviously Monday, but John bee Line
being hired as the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers
out of the University of Michigan. That all these great

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NBA stories, the biggest story of the weekend was Kawhi
Leonard doing what no one in the history of the NBA,
in the history of basketball has ever done, and that
was to hit a buzzer beating game winning shot in

(04:04):
game seven had never been done, right. I don't know
if you knew that. I believe that. I mean, that's
that moment, that moment like that doesn't happen. And you
know when you're watching it, you know what I mean.
You know you've just seen something that you don't see.
I've been watching sports forever, you know what I mean,
And I don't remember recalling seeing that, not to win

(04:25):
it at the buzzer uh in the game seven, to
move on or final, you know what I mean. And
the bounce, the fact that it bounced four times off
the rim just made it even better. And rims are
rims are always crazy. You never know, but that was
you gotta barely see a bounce, not that many, right,

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But let's go. Let's hear how it sounded on radio raptors.
Here we go. They get it to Leonards drives right
down to the baseline fall away for the wind. Why
Leonard shot went up in the air and hit the rim.
It bouched on the rim before going through the bucket.

(05:09):
Toronto Rims ninety two ninety it's on Tapilwaukee at the
East Shirt Conference Fight on. You could even hear. That
was the Raptors Radio network, Chris, and you could even
hear the mics are so good. Did you not hear
the ball bouncing on the rim? Yeah? I heard it. Yeah,
that's how good it is. I mean, that's an incredible shot.

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It was truly incredible, and they look the biggest moment
in Toronto Raptors franchise history. And it's a franchise that
I know, they've been to the conference finals before and
it's been ugly, but this was the greatest moment they've
ever had. Vince Carter didn't give these moments. Tracy McGrady
didn't give these types of moments. Chris Bosh didn't give

(05:53):
these moments. Demark de Rosen, Kawhi, Leonard Massai U Jerry,
the president of the Raptors, was in tears. And I'm
sure he wasn't the only one that crowd. I've been
there for a playoff game. It is raucous and it
was rocking yesterday. You saw Kauai how emotional he was.
He even admitted he's never been that emotional on the court.

(06:16):
We know how he usually acts very somber, very sullen,
you know, never shows emotion for him to get like that.
The first thought a lot of people had, Rob was
that's the type of moment that will make it incredibly
hard for him to leave Toronto. Is that? What do
you think about that? I don't know. I think it's

(06:37):
still premature. I mean, the euphoria of it, I get it,
Chris in the moment. But if they go to the
next round and get wiped out by Milwaukee in four
or five, that happy feeling not that you'll ever forget
making a shot like that, being the first guy to
ever make that shot. But I'm not so sure that
that's gonna be like, oh, well, I can't leave Toronto

(06:57):
now because I made that shot. I'm not convinced that yet. Now,
if they go on to get to the NBA Finals
and maybe even win it, then I think things are
totally different. But but I will say this, Kawhi is
why you should believe in the Raptors because all the
way and all along, Chris, that was the reason why

(07:18):
I picked them before the season. We both did before
the season start. I know you're you like Milwaukee a
little bit better now, but we both picked Toronto and
it was because of Kawhi. I just said that's the guy.
You know what, Chris, He's been there, done that, been
in big moments. I love the whole idea. Two guys
were on me, one looking to pass the ball anybody.

(07:39):
He was gonna put the shot up. He was going
to put that shot up, and he made it. Well.
He put up plenty of shots thirty nine to be exact,
But that was a dominique Wilkins, right, that's not that impressive.
But he but look, that's one of those games where

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numbers do lie, you know, I mean he I don't
look at that as a negative. Nobody else wanted to shoot. Well. See,
and that's where I go to two of your points
number one when we talked about, you know, is that
the type of moment? And I get it because I'm
with you, like it's only the second round. I wholeheartedly agree.
If they go in Milwaukee wipes them out in four

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or five, easy six or whatever, then all that's washed away.
All those good feelings. Yeah, you remember it historically, but
the great vibes and feelings that would keep you there
are gone, if they you know. But watching that game
I went through, I was like a roller coaster in
that regard of wild houses gonna affect Kawhi's future in

(08:45):
the second half, As you mentioned, everybody was other than
m Kauhi, look like everybody else was afraid. That's what happened.
Seven people don't want to shoot. They're not looking for
the ball. Chris, you've covered d NBA for a long time.
You tell you can tell who the guys who want
to play and other guys who don't want to grasp

(09:06):
the moment. My right, it's just no question to a man.
They seem to be afraid of the stage and that
except Kauai, they were going to him. That's one reason
he took so many shots, because nobody else would put
it up. But that. I was watching that and I
was thinking, this is why he needs to leave, or

(09:27):
this is why he will leave. Nobody else is stepping
up or even trying. They look scared, and then he
hits the shot, and the first thing is wow, look
at that reaction. This is an emotional moment that may
very well keep him. I mean, that's just a bonding
experience that could end up keeping him there. It's the bonding, right,

(09:48):
It's not just hitting the big shot. It like you said,
it's the bonding. Like they went wild. He went wild.
It's his first experience like that, Like that's something that's
gonna stick with him. However, I then I start thinking
about it again, and I came to your conclusion that, look,
it's just the second round. If that were just the

(10:09):
conference final, it may have been, you know, enough to
seal the deal championship. Oh well that and here's the thing,
and I believe Rob that if Kawai wins the say
he wins, leaves Toronto to the championship, which I they're
not the favorites obviously, but it's certainly a real possibility

(10:34):
considering the injuries that Kevin Durant. So if they somehow
won the championship, I actually think it would still be
easy for Kawai to leave if he wanted. Like he look,
he would be a two time champion. Even Toronto couldn't
be mad at him, because it's like, hey, the dude
came one year and delivered, what are we gonna do?

(10:55):
Gave us these great moments. He to me, he would
have the freedom to do whatever the heck he wanted
to do and nobody would be able to criticize him.
I think the toughest scenario for him to leave Toronto
would be if they get to the finals and it
is a they lose a nail biting series, like a
tough six or seven game series the Golden State and

(11:17):
they're that close, That's when I think it'd be very
hard for him to leave. And if he did leave,
it might be viewed as a negative by a lot
of people, even outside of Toronto. Yeah, I could see
that that scenario. I agree with that and the other
thing I took from it, you know the whole Joel embiid,
you know, with tears or whatever. I'd love to see that.

(11:38):
I'm gonna tell you why, Chris, because it shouldn't matter
to you, like like you care about it, do you
know what I mean? Like like the heartache of trying
to get there, that's that's the great part of winning,
finally breaking through. That's why those tears, you know what
I mean? Because you know how much hard work and
what it takes to try to get there. And it

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shouldn't matter if you're twenty something years old and it
doesn't matter to you, do you know what I mean?
And you could walk off the court like like you
didn't care whether you want to lost, You still got
your fat paycheck coming something. I got it. I gotta
admit I am surprised to hear player hater number one
say that I'm surprised, but I agree with you wholeheartedly.

(12:23):
I liked it. That's the first time in his career. Now,
maybe I miss something. I'm not saying I have the
definitive say on this, but that's the first time in
his career that I've seen real solid, undisputable truth that
he cares, right, that this is really important, and Rob,

(12:43):
I loved it. I love I didn't you know the
optics of crying on Mark Gasol's shoulder, that that's not
great look at him. But I'm not gonna kill him
for that because he was just he was just emotional.
But I liked it because the pain he felt, Yes, yes,
that's the type of pain that should this summer lead
him to change his diet, lead him to improve his

(13:05):
work ethic, and lead him to shed about twenty to
twenty five pounds. And if he does those things, Rob,
He's gonna come back a monster. And if you're a
seventy six ers fan, you should love that, no question.
If he made cares, it matters to him much rather
that than somebody to be sitting up there like, hey whatever,

(13:27):
still catching my check no matter what, whether we want
a loss, And they were all those guys yep, no doubt,
no doubt. So And finally, I'll say this about that game,
Rob I felt in this series really to me beyond
the great game he had yesterday, this was a coming
out party for Kawhi Leonard because look, we all knew

(13:48):
he was a great player in San Antonio and all that,
but when you shine in San Antonio, particularly if you're
like an unballyhooed player like he. You know, he came
out of San Diego State and you know he was
a first round pick, but you know, not many people,
not a big name people didn't know that he was.
He improves a lot of people give Gregg Popovich and

(14:12):
that Spurs system a lot of the credit, and you
know they deserve some of that because of their success.
Maybe a little bit too much, right, And that's my thing, Like,
I think there are people that were wondering, oh, yeah,
he's you know, is he just doing it in San Antonio?
Can he really carry a team by himself? He showed
you in this series. Look, I'm the real deal, and

(14:33):
I think this was not only a great game when
he shot, but at coming out party for him through
this entire series. And here's another thing, one last thing.
Remember they had the great record without him when he
didn't play this year. Go look it up, go Google
that they had a great record without Kawhi Leonard. You
tell me in a Game seven you don't want Kawhi

(14:55):
Leonard And they played better without? Please, They wouldn't have
got to know without Kawhi. That's what I'm saying that
sometimes numbers lie, and those are all those analytical numbers too.
You know. So all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine
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weekend of Kawhi Leonard. Did the way Game seven played
out help or hurt the Raptors chances of keeping Kawhi
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go ahead and into the gutter. I just said, I
just got singles. You know. It just stuts off from
leftover from the weekend. It's all good, yeah, all right,
Well look we threw it out to you. It's your
turn is always to weigh in. Do you think what
the happenings of sun day evening when Kawhi Leonard hits
the first game winning buzzer beater in Game seven history

(17:08):
of the basketball, not just the NBA basketball? Is that
making more likely to stay in Toronto? A seven seven
ninety nine on Fox or A seven seven nine nine
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(17:29):
I think Kawhi gonna stay. I mean, I think he's
gonna leave no matter what the season, you know, regardless,
because he don't want to be there. You know what
I'm saying. He just using this season to solidify hisself
and move on. That's, you know, like like Christie saying,
I think whatever he do, he just showing that to
everybody to make him, you know, know who he is
because he is dominating. There's gonna be wherever he is.

(17:50):
But I do think he's still going to LA And
I'm not talking about the Clippers, stop right. The Lakers
are out of it, but I think he gonna see
that he needs help. He gonna the Raptors and the
Clippers are similar. They got good players, but they gonna
need another start. He's not gonna go there and get
put out in the second or third line. Everybody's not

(18:14):
Paul George. Somebody won't help. They're smart, they know where
to go. You know whether somebody's gonna play on the
team and be a team. I remember you you said
the same thing about Paul George, and now you're saying,
I remember that you said the same thing. Oh, Paul
George is coming to the Lakers, and then what happened? Oh,
I'm sorry. Well, I look, I do think he makes

(18:34):
some sense when he says Toronto and the Clippers are similar.
I think I think the Clippers will be Toronto West.
If Kauh disagree with the difference one difference, I say,
and look, we'll see what Toronto does in this next round.
They're they're supporting cast, but the Clippers players, and I
don't want to say the Raptors don't have heart, but
they look like they were lacking in the heart department

(18:57):
and the courage department for the second half half of
yesterday's game. I don't see that in the Clippers. Pat Beverley,
Lou Williams Montress. So that's the difference. And if kawhis
thinks about legacy, I mean, I know he thinks he's
good enough to go to the Clippers and win a championship,

(19:19):
and that would as as much as winning the championship
anywhere matters. To do it in the Clippers by yourself,
so to speak, as the loan superstar, versus doing it
with Lebron, there's no question which one would mean more. Yeah, legacy,
But I'm still not convinced or not sure yet. I
think the playoffs will have a little, a little bit

(19:40):
to do with it, not a lot, a little bit,
and we'll see what happens. What about Julian and West Virginia.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
how y'all doing? Hey, Chris, I gotta give your problems.
You won motivational Speaker, you got on Toronto and all
the Canada and our fields. They didn't kind of turn around,
and then you go out on the Bucks and maybe

(20:01):
one man don't give Chris. Julian stop. Hey, I was saying,
rap Chris all up. Anytime you want. Chris is working.
But I'm gonna tell you, Julian, Yeah, I asked Chris
about his uh okay see going to the Western Conference.
He has to go to the first round. What I mean, Look,
you had Denver going to the conference final. I did

(20:22):
not stopped and beating something. So so let's not Chris stop.
You have more Missus than I have. You have that
you have, how you have Brooklyn? I just have Brooklyn.
That's the only one I missed the stop Missus I had.
Go ahead. Julian Julian good. Julie is a stock guy.
I think it makes it easier for him to go

(20:43):
because I mean he had to do everything offense and defense.
And the moment Kawahii goes to the bench, it's almost
like Lebron his last year in Cleveland, Like it just
he just really got too much help there. Na it
was bad and that look, marcusol, thanks for to call.
Jowe has had a very good career. Pascal Siakam is
on the rise. You know, Kyle Lowry's had his playoffs struggle,

(21:07):
so that's not surprising. But Sergeon Baka stepped up, but
he was about the only one yesterday. They gotta deliver
against Milwaukee, not only to try to win the series,
but to show Kauai that they're worthy of keeping him.
All right, let's squeeze one more. And Chris, what about
decks in the Bay Area? You're on the odd couple
Fox Sports Radio? What's up Decks? What's up? Chris and Rob?
This is the NBA connoisseur. Let me just put it

(21:29):
to you straight like it is. Kauai has already made
up his mind. He's gonna be leaving. That's no big thing.
But I have a question for both of you guys.
Why didn't the NBA the officials go back and review
that last possession to make sure one that the clock
started when it should have on those last four point
two seconds because when I did it, it's almost five

(21:51):
seconds before Kauhi released the ball. Why I didn't let
the players walk off the floor without reviewing it. You
guys gotta answer for me. Thanks. I don't have an answer.
That's the first I've heard of that. Have you? Is
there a story out about that, Rob or something like?
Is there a question? No, I haven't heard that, Robb.

(22:13):
Okay you hear that at all? Yeah? I don't. I mean,
guy was wondering did the two minute last you know,
last two minute report come out? And say something about that.
But I don't know. I just think he's nitpicking, to
be honest. All right, Well, it was a great weekend
for Kauhi and a not so great weekend for another superstar.

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with an attitude. All right, I saw all right, I
like that Rob. Before we get to Gatino quickly. Yeah,
how saddened are you buy that news that we're not
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me see the goods. I'm gonna see him in action,
watch and see. I can't wait to see Rob, Robert.
Guy dying to see that tape because you like working,
Because the Patriots have always been so hot on videotape,
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it or is there some strange I don't want to
see an eight year old man, uh getting a happy ending.
That's not what I'm trying to Sorry, all right, well,
I'm just mad. I want him to be embarrassed, that's all.
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(26:14):
What's happening? You know? I was gonna come in there
man and just sit with you guys and listen. Man,
I love y'all too. How you feel, man? We appreciate man,
were great. We definitely appreciate that. Cotino. One thing real quick,
do you own me chicken wings? Then we bet about
the Lakers making the playoffs or not. No, that's not
a lavoid. You let me tell you. Why can I
say why? Because Lebron got hurt, only played fifty three games.

(26:38):
In those fifty three games, you kind of owe me.
I don't owe you. Tell ro Ro, let me tell you.
Let me tell you, then I let you go. The
reason why I'm saying that because when Lebron was playing,
when he was in December, they were in the playoff hunt. Now,
between you and I and the man on the move,
do you think if a Bron wouldn't have got what

(27:01):
they be in the playoff continuous? I'm sacking you from
your heart, of course, but that's not how we played sports.
So that's not how we play. That's not how we
played sports. Would have could have shot up when we
won the show. We talked about them not making the playoffs,
and that was after Lebron came back. It wasn't when
he was hurt. We we we went up, we went

(27:22):
on it about that, and they didn't make the playof
Jordan's it's under Ran gets hurt, it's off because they
all right, let's let's move on, let's move on. Though
you know what, you know what you can get him
in Jordan's that you get you know, the old school
Jordans that you get him at like raw, Look right,

(27:43):
you're gonna play me like that? All right? All right? Continue,
Look like I said, you had some great years as
a player in Houston. You know that fan base and
even the organization even though it's a lot of different
people there now. But what is that team lacking to

(28:04):
where they couldn't beat a Golden State team without Kevin Durant?
And you know what, what do you think they're lacking? Well,
do you know what I think that was? Truthfully, I
think that was the NBBA the Western Conference Finals. That's
what I think that was. Now, I don't want to,
I don't want to, you know, kill the Houston Rockets
so much because without Kevin. And Kevin was mad at

(28:26):
me this morning he texted me after. Yeah, he got
mad at me because of what I said. Well, Chris,
you and I have said, listen, that's a that's a luxury,
that's not a necessity. Because those guys won, They won
a championship, and they won seventy three games the year
after they won this championship, and they got a two
time MVP. So their third guy, their third will gets

(28:50):
sixty and three quarters on the Levin's ribbles, right, I'm
just stating. I'm just stating. In fact, I hated running
the raild with what do you call it? Rip Hamilton
and Ray Allen and Reggie and I hated that. Now
Kobe was maybe harder for an individual, but for a team,
it's easy to guard a person like that, and then

(29:11):
the person that's running around like they're crazy. Now mass
to Houston, Now back to Houston. I think Houston it
got harder for them when Katie wasn't there because they
can load up more when you have Clay, Steph and
Katie on the floor at the same time. There was
no team in the history of basketball where three guys
eat when they play in the same game. It don't

(29:34):
work like that. Shoot guys are going to eat, another
guy's going to suffer. And with those three, since they're
great shooters, will go to State. It kind of helps.
It helps Houston more to stay in the game because
you need three guys to touch that ball, to see
that ball go in the basket because they're jump shooters.
Kd It's so powerful and demands so much attention in

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respect not only from his teammates but from the opposing team. Well,
because he can just destroy you. Now when Katie's got
in the game, it's harder for Houston to really match
up for me, I would think, because they do a
lot more movies. So it's not so much as now
the fifty fifty. It's not so much as Houston was

(30:16):
really bad. It was that it's harder for them. That's
my opinion. And were you dealing with a one on
one team like a Houston, it's easy to guard you.
But but Minto, I got a respectfully disagree. I think
you're being way soft on Houston. I think they're total frauds.
I mean, and this was to me exhibit a a

(30:37):
fraud them. And I'm talking about Maury Dan Tony who
can't win a big game to save his life, couldn't
do it in Phoenix, to Harden, to Chris Paul. You
mean to tell me that after they lose a player
like KD, they can't win that game and then come
home and can't extend the series to a seventh game.

(30:57):
And you're telling me that because Kd's out as harder
for them to do what they were supposed to do.
This is not just about this year that organization and
those players and that coach and GM can't get it done.
They're frauds. They're not winning anything. Chris Bussard said it right.
They're gonna wind up being the Sacramento Kings that had
Chris Webber and all those guys that could never win.

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If they couldn't beat Golden State without KD, they're not winning, Jack,
I cannot accept what you just said. Well, okay, so listen,
that's that's okay. We can agree to disagree. But my
point I'm trying to make is if you have Chris
James Harden deferred a little bit more, not saying a
lot last year, and Chris Paul first came in, so
Chris Paul had more of a rhythm. So then during

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that trusted that the end of that year they kind
of played off of each other. It wasn't James Harden
dominating when Chris Paul got hurt this year at the
beginning and they were in fourteenth place and James Harden
drove them all all the way. And after December, I
think Houston had the second best record of James Harden
was I in forty. It's kind of hard to go
back to a you played with a fifty percent of

(32:01):
the time I play with the fifty percent of the time,
when we live with those results, you gotta go with
major guy A successful this year. So it kind of
threw Chris off. Yes, Christ and getting older, Yes, I
don't like I'm not a fan of d'antoni's offense towards
the play offs. You'll write about that. But all I'm
saying is when you have a steady diet throughout the year,
you're playing different teams. The steady diet in the playoffs

(32:23):
is the same team you have to play. You have
to be four times in the seven game series. That's
a lot harder to scout when you got guys moving
around crazy. Now when you think them a go to
State because they get even that to any other team,
but when you did them a go to to State,
everybody's acting like Steph and Curry is not that guy.
Stephen Curry is that guy heay And if I get

(32:46):
if I get me a couple of baskets Katino Mobile,
if I get me a three year, a post up there,
a free throw year, That's what I'm starting to feel.
Rhythm you at my mercy because I'm a really good
offensive player, and that's what stef and Curry is what's
out KB. Don't get it twisted this year? How many
times in twenty eight games without KD? Just this currently
twenty eight games. You know what the record is twenty

(33:07):
seven and one. Yeah, and Toronto. I'm right here because
Toronto was also better without Kawhi Letter. But go look
it up here, go look it up continue he was better.
They were better without Letter. I'm gonna buying that Golden
States record includes playoffs. I'm not buying Houston. So you

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can say whatever you want about the Warriors and Steph
Curry and I respect that, but don't tell me that
Houston showed up once Kadi went down. They rolled over
and their frauds that I don't expect them to ever
win anything the way that they're set up. They showed up.
I said that it's more dangerous for them because you
gotta understand it. They're scouting records. They're scouting is about KD,

(33:49):
Clay and Stefford in the game which the majority of
the year they were together, their scouting records wasn't do
you know what, It's just steffinite Clay when the last
time we've seen just steffing Steffane play in the playoff theories.
That was three four years ago, so you kind of
like that's like you it's like you've ever seen a
game where the coach drugs of a player tells you

(34:10):
not not to you know, come up to three and
two seconds later you come up to three. Imagine that
type of stuff happening when you got playing stuff together
and in twelve more minutes and then another game. You know,
just Scott, You're got to really dig in now because
they've evolved stuff. And Cubby was in talked top five

(34:30):
MVP voting this year, not last year, this year, Am
I correct? Yep? Okay, so you yes, I do. James
harden them that getting shut up at the end, James
gassed himself. I said that in the beginning of the year.
If you keep playing like that, I'm telling you right now,
along with your social life, you will run out of gas.

(34:51):
And that did happen. That did happen. But Aguri, it's
about the rhythm. It's the I joined by former eleven
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(35:11):
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much more on that one coming up in a bit.
We'll keep you posted on it throughout the night. But
the Tigers, after giving up three in the top of
the second inn, had a rally going here tying Ron

(35:34):
at the plate, Brad Peacock on the mount. Astro's a
three nothing lead on Detroit back we're two against this
Houston club with one and down. Greason Grinder skies one
to left and it's actually in foul territory. Korean now
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roof can which stand a lot. It's gonna tag one

(35:56):
exception being an airborne carver talked to social and as
soon as the ball was let go, Josh Harrison scrambles
on down the second base. Well, Ron Garden Hurd told
you and I before the game, when we're in his
office talking about the approach. Are you tuned into the

(36:19):
eye couple? Christ and Rob and uh Rob, did you
see the Cleveland Cavaliers shocked everyone with their latest coaching hire.
John B. Line, the coach at Michigan. Now, he's a
great college coach, tremendous college coach, twelve seasons at Michigan,

(36:43):
had success everywhere he's been. I ain't using that term great,
but go ahead, that's just me. Yeah. But he's he's
he's very good, great, very good, whatever you want to
call it. He's up there. What do you think about
the Cavaliers hiring him? I'm sorry, I just do not
get why you're hiring a sixty six year old first

(37:04):
time head coach in the NBA. No, no coach that
age has ever gotten the job in the NBA as
it first job. So they're breaking that. There's just unprecedented Chris,
which I don't understand. To me, it's more like a
retirement package or retirement is he Dan Gilbert? No? And
this is the other part. And I know I'm being

(37:25):
like being like a little bit uh theory kind of guy,
but uh, I don't know. And did he try to
get him out of the way so Tom is o
can win the win the Big ten? And you know
what I mean, like because it's all had a problem
beating But I don't get it, Chris, please with a

(37:46):
why of guys I don't. I don't get why John
Beelin is the guy that Dan Gilbert. I get it.
He's a young he's an older coach who's setting his
ways and trying to mold the young roster. I guess,
But there's a lot of guys out there I could
have seen getting that job. You keep bringing up Mark
Jackson and other people. John bee Line, Really, I just

(38:08):
I see him as a college coach who's already setting
his ways, who's already done his thing. I don't see
him as an NBA coach, and and God bless him,
get a five year deal, and who knows, in two
or three years maybe he will be retired. Well, where
I do agree with you is on you calling the
retirement package being a little bit facetious. Right. I do
think this goes right to Dan Gilbert. That's what I

(38:32):
do agree with you. Hunt. This was a Dan Gilbert hired.
Now I don't know. I know he's tied. He's tied
to Michigan State, right, No, he went to Michigan State.
Michigan guy. Yeah, period, he's a Michigan guy. But there's
no way the Cavalier. In my view, the Cavaliers hired
John bee Line. To your point, look, I used the

(38:54):
word great. That's probably an overstatement. He's a top notch,
top flight collegue. I'm not ripping him for being a
good college basketball coach, a very good one, Okay on
the head though, sixty six years old. This isn't Brad
Stevens in his thirties or whatever. You know, this is

(39:16):
a sixty six year old and Dan Gilbert. Remember it
was Dan Gilbert, not David Griffin who hired David Black.
Dan Gilbert hire and so I think this was a
hot Dan Gilbert higher too. And look, like you said,

(39:36):
it's not questioning b lines competence, not at all. Can
get it. Yeah, he's a good coach, but it just
doesn't make sense. I mean seriously, like by the time
they're ready to compete, you would think he's ready to retire, right.
I just don't get it at that age, and you
haven't never done it before. And as we said, no

(39:56):
team in the NBA history Chris ever hire a guy
at that age. It just doesn't it really doesn't make sense.
It's just I looked at I scratched my head. If
this was ten years ago. He's fifty six or do
you know what I mean? Okay, twenty years ago, right,
But if you want to try to put a spin

(40:18):
on it to make it make sense, Look, they got
some young players, Colin Sexton, you know, Brandon Knight, who's
not not that young anymore. Actually he's about twenty seven.
They're gonna get a top pick. They got Marquis Chris
Is that is that what they're going for? You know,
I mean they still have a lot of veterans too,
so I don't know, it just doesn't make sense. And

(40:38):
like you said, it would have made more sense to
go get a hot young NBA assistant JB. Bickerstaff, who
there's talk that he could end up being on blon staff.
You know, look, he hasn't lit the world on far
as far as his record, but he's been in some
tough situations, you know Memphis, who nobody was gonna win there,
which that's usually what happens with the god that gets

(41:00):
saddled with some bad jobs. And then I mean, you
want to be an NBA coach, you want to take
an opportunity, Chris, But you know what happens after a while,
people can't win. Yeah, your record gets bad, and so
you know I'm gonna turn to another team in the East.
It is gonna be interesting to see what Philly does
with Brett Brown. I think he needs to go. I

(41:21):
think their late game execution is horrendous. Yesterday you saw
it against Toronto. It looked like the series against Boston
last year all over it. Could you see what you
just did? Chris, you said that he should go, but
you gave examples. Did you see that? Right? That's all
I'm talking about. They you can't say that he can't go,
but you gotta give me so I know you are.

(41:42):
That's what we talked about. That's what I mean, both
of us. When you're a player, you don't have to
do that. Just say whatever the heck you want. I
got you no, but you know like and I'm gonna
say it again, Rob, Mark Jackson, Look at Mark Jackson.
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free rate quote. And Rob Katino Mobley addressed it when
we spoke with him last hour. How the Golden State
Warriors are different, so very different when Kevin Durant isn't
there and the player movement, the movement of Steph Curry

(42:48):
Clay Thompson wears an opponent out and their record now
without Kevin Durant is thirty and four and that includes
a big time playoff win over the Houston Rockets. I
did not kill Kevin Durant, as opposed to you and

(43:09):
many others, most others. I didn't kill Kevin Durant when
he went to Golden State. But what I did feel,
and what I have felt for these past three years,
is that we as fans, we as reports basketball nation,
NBA nation, has been robbed of the type of show

(43:34):
and the type of excellence that Steph Kurry would show
us what he did the year before Kade got there.
I know they didn't win a championship, but his regular
season heroics were unprecedented, practically thirty points a game, first
player ever to be unanimous MVP, which I know he's

(43:55):
not the first that deserved it, but he got that award.
And when Kevin Durant came, and Kevin Durant is by
all viewpoints their best player, even Steph's admitting it, Clay's
admitting it, no question, but Kevin Durant's presence, the fact

(44:15):
that they saw he was the best player, the fact
that Steph and Clay to a degree deferred to him,
took away from the brilliance of Steph Curry. And he
just didn't have to do as much because you got
the great Kevin Durant there next to you. So it's
kind of a crutch. And now that Durant has been injured,

(44:40):
Steph Curry turned back the clock and showed us that
he's still the same old Steph. And I just think
that we've been robbed of seeing his true and total greatness.
I'm gonna use an example that would hit home with you,
and not that this guy's on the level of a

(45:01):
Steph Curry, but Mark Aguire. When Mark Aguire was in Dallas,
you know, he was a great was one of the
best scores in the league, twenty five points a game
and on a good team, on a team that took
the Showtime Lakers to seven games in the Western Conference finals.
One year, he goes to Detroit to play with his

(45:23):
buddy Isaiah Thomas, and to Aguire's credit, it's much like
Steph in this regard. He just did whatever he had
to do, whatever sacrifice he had to make, he did
it for the team. It went first year to averaging
about fifteen points a game. Second year, he voluntarily came

(45:45):
off the bench and gave Dennis Robbin the starting role,
and he won two championships. So my point is, there
are there are players out there that can do more,
and some players that can do more and win a
guiedy win championships, but he, you know, wanted a pretty
high level. Steph could do more and win. We've all

(46:08):
seen that, and so I'm just saying that we've missed
out on that with KD being there. And I'm gonna
be honest, rob I don't know if they can win
the championship without We'll see. I know they can beat Portland,
but we'll see if they can win the championship beat
Milwaukee or whoever they meet in the finals without him.
But this is why I hope that Kevin Durant leaves.

(46:33):
I hope he goes to New York for the good
of the league. But wherever he goes, I hope he
leaves so we can be treated once again to the
Steph Curry show. I hear you. I believe that's uh.
I believe that's how you really feel like. You know

(46:54):
what I mean. You're Steph Curry guy, and I get
all that, and there's a good reason why it's a
great player. But I will say, you say you were
robbed of seeing Steph Curry. I remember Steph Curry when
he was up three to one and they lost the championship.
I remember that. I remember that losing three straight games
in the year that they won seventy three and hadn't

(47:15):
lost two games all year. So I remember that Steph Curry.
And the other part that's only Steph Curry. I just
know I remember that. That's all I'm saying. And here's
the other part. Is blame Steph Curry if if you
feel robbed, He's the one who signed off on it.
After they went lost three to one, gave up a
coughed up a three to one lead to Lebron James

(47:36):
and the Cavaliers. They went to Steph Curry and asked
him about k D. Steph Curry could have said, no, way, no,
how do we need KD. We don't need KD to
beat Lebron James, Chris Bussard. Instead, you Stephen Curry. Steph

(47:57):
Curry did what he felt he had to do. He
called in the reinforcement. He didn't, Yes, he did, because
he could have supported. He could have easily said, no,
we don't need him. We just went to the finals
two years in a row. We won one out of two.
We beat Katie when they were up three to one

(48:18):
against us. We don't need KD. No, no, no, And
instead he gave in. And yes, he took a back seat.
You know why, because Kd's better than him. That's the
reason Kad's been the MVP of the Finals two years
in a row. So you can romanticize all you want,
be a prisoner of the moment, talk about talk about

(48:41):
Steph Curry. I fear what are you talking about? Like
I got robbed because I couldn't see Steph Curry he
was playing. He just couldn't win no MVPs. He was
out there, you go, you know what, to follow him.
You're following up a false police report. You weren't robbed.

(49:01):
I'll give you that. That's a good point. Blame Steph Curry.
I'm not blaming anybody. I'm not because you're absolutely right.
Steph Curry has the cloud right. He could have went
to Bob Myers. He could have went to his teammates
and said, look, y'all, we know we should have beat

(49:21):
the cast. If we don't lose Draymond for Game five,
we win that series. Let's go back next year and
show them we don't need Kevin Durant. A great player.
We all know that, but we don't need him. He
could have done that. And I'm I'm not mad at
him or KD. I'm not mad at KD either. No,

(49:44):
I'm just stating a fact that we have been neglected.
We have been robbed of seeing this light show that
is Stephen Curry, this light show that put the great
Alan Irish in awe show. They had people saying he

(50:04):
could be a top five ten player of all time,
that type of show. So I'm with you, and I'm
I don't fault Steph for doing you know, for bring hey,
bring in Katie. That shows his humility, his professionalism. I'm
fine with all that. So what happens, I'm just trying
to get I want you on the record on this.

(50:27):
So the last time Steph Curry was running the team,
they choked down the three to one league, first time
in NBA history, did you hear me? First time in
NBA history? And if they don't win, said they get
knocked out in the Western Conference finals, or they don't
win the championship with Steph as a league guy or whatever,
would that change anything for you? Would that would that

(50:48):
make you wonder about that? Would be the last two
times he was driving the bus it crashed. Would that
change anything? That wouldn't It wouldn't Like I said I
said last week. You know, I've said Steph is the
best small player of all time. Now then my book
moved ahead of Isaiah Thomas. I do think that would
be you know, it's fluid. He's still got a lot

(51:10):
of his career left, so I've put him ahead now.
But I look, if they were to lose to Portland,
say Katie doesn't come back, and they were to lose
to Portland in the Western Conference Finals. Then yeah, that
would make me start to reevaluate and start to really
watch it. Because the thing about Isaiah Thomas is he

(51:30):
was unquestionably the leader of that team. Even when Joe
Dumars won the finals, MVP the second Championship, it was
Isaiah Thomas's teams and there's no doubt about it. So
I'm with you. I'm not just sitting here trying to,
you know, uplift Steph Curry and put him on this pedestal.

(51:51):
I'm just stating the fact from what we see, what
we have seen Rob in these last two games, thirty
three points in the second half in Game six, three
in the fourth quarter, sixteen in the final five minutes,
two huge three pointers from at least twenty seven feet
with a dislocated left fingers on his left hand. If

(52:12):
he's out there playing, he's all right, I don't but
I'm just but you can know it's still true. We
give Isaiah Thomas credit, and that's worse. What Isaiah did
in Game six on the sprained ankle is tougher than
the dislocated finger. Don't get me wrong, but I'm just
saying you you incorporate that into the story like it
makes it even more impressive, and so he delivered. Now

(52:39):
he's gotta they gotta keep it up. I mean, like
I said, it'd be interesting to see them against Milwaukee
if they don't have Kevin Durant. So I just think
I love what I don't think there's any disputing the
fact that the Warriors are more fun to watch. Steph
Curry is more entertaining and greater to watch right now

(53:04):
than when Kd's out there. And this is nothing against KD.
KD is the best player on the team period, man
arguably might be the best player in the world. When
I saw Katie make that shot on Lebron's mag I
thought I was exciting. I thought that was fun. That
wasn't funny, you know. I wasn't as exciting as Steph
Curry pulling up over two rockets from twenty eight feet
from the hash. It's just a right, you know, it wasn't.

(53:27):
I'm asking you. We got different takes. It's like, like Ganko,
It's like this, if Rob if Lebron, let's say, instead
of Durant going to Golden State, Lebron had gone to
Golden State. Now they would have definitely won championships. They
would have been their talent would have been overwhelming, but

(53:50):
Steph and Clay would have become glorified spot up shooters
because it would have been Lebron would have had the
ball in his hands, he would have been penetrated kicking
out to them. They would have been crushing it from
three point land, and individually, those two would not have
been able to shine as much. That's what I'm saying.

(54:11):
So it's nothing against KD. It's just a system difference,
and this system they're playing now with all the incredible movement,
allows Steph to really be at his best. So it's
interesting to see. Look, I'm glad Kevin Durant's not seriously hurt.
I hope he can come back soon, just for his sake.

(54:32):
You know, you always want the best players out there.
But this is really interesting watching them without him because
it's I mean, they've they've always rolled without him, And
like you and I talked about Lebron when he went
to Cleveland, I mean, when he left Cleveland and went
to Miami, how we both thought he sold himself short,
like he was good enough to win titles, and I

(54:53):
believed he was. I really did. I thought I would
have won a championship at at this point in Cleveland.
So is it possible the Warriors sold themselves short when
they went out and got Kevin Durant? You know what
I'm saying. I believe that as well. And now, look,
it's hard to see what Kevin Durant gives them is

(55:14):
just the Klay Thompson mentioned the room for error, you
know what I mean, Like, you don't have to be perfect.
He can because he can make up for any mistakes
and errors and all that. But without him, you know,
it will never know, at least not right now, if
they are good enough to continue winning those championships without him.

(55:35):
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not true. All right, Jeremy in California, you're on the
Yard couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Jeremy. I
am a huge Golden State Warriors fan, and I'm gonna
tell you something, and this is the truth. We did
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(58:32):
a luxury that we have him, and we are going
to lead him to continue to push forward. It is
not an absolute failure if we do not beat Portlands. However,
Seth Curry's legacy might take a small knot. But we
did get robbed of the greatness of self Curry, and

(58:54):
we saw a huge glimph for that end the most
magnificent second half of Baba and Steph Curry's entire career
when he dropped thirty three on PJ Tuck and Chris
paulk Head in Game six, and I am everything, Jeremy saying, Jeremy, Jeremy,
when they choked down the three to one advantage over

(59:16):
the Cavaliers. What were you saying that you to need nut? Now? Now,
I'm gonna also tell you this my deaf friends and
Cleveland Cavaliers saying, and I accepted all of the smoke
from that because yet we had no excuses for blowing
that league. It did not Age. Raymond Green wasn't playing,
even though he is a leader and a key piece

(59:37):
of the defense. But the greatness of self Curage and
Clay Talking should have allowed for us to win that game.
But because Steph Curry played defense, I'm Kevin Irby and
he hit him with the jeer step back three corner.
It hurts. Let me say, let me say this robe
to your answer of the Warriors choking. First of all,
you you seem to always leave out that Oklahoma City

(01:00:00):
with k D. Now we're talking about we're talking about
that they choked right before that Steph Curry and those guys. Secondly,
because they choked and lost the three one lead in
the finals of Cleveland does not mean they couldn't have
come back the very next year and write it the

(01:00:21):
situation by beating Cleveland or whoever and win in the championship.
I'll bring it to again the legend Isaiah Thomas. He
choked when he threw that pass away in Game five
and Larry Birds stole it. That cost them that series
against Boston. But he came back the next year and
they beat Boston. So it happens. That doesn't mean that

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the Warriors couldn't have won without KD. But it's legit
you and you bring it up, the choke. But you
bring it up like that's the definitive statement, or they
were done. They couldn't even know Magic choked in the
tragic Johnson Finals in nineteen eighty four, we saw Lebron
against Dallas. I brought up Isa Thomas. It happens, but

(01:01:03):
the great ones can come back from it. You know what,
never happened in the NBA Finals. No team that ever
chosen three. That never happened. I'm just saying, but that's
what I say. That Timas did that that was commonplace,
but never had away the class, never had a ride.
But I'm just saying, you act like they. I'm just
saying that's never been done. Won again. That's on his resume.

(01:01:26):
That's all I'm saying. That's on his resume. All right,
Randy in Seattle, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Randy? Hey, what's going on? Guys?
Good afternoon. Hey, So I actually think that it's elevated
his greatness. Steph Curry is arguably the greatest shooter that's
ever played the game before Katie came. Name another player

(01:01:47):
who's been mentioned that as one of the greatest in
their position of all time to step back for the better.
Why would you step back if you're the greatest shooter
of all time? It makes no sense to me. Why
would you? Why would you step back? I'm asking you,
Randy if you're the greatest freaking shooter. Because no, Chris,
I want Randy to get give me an answer. Why

(01:02:08):
would you step back if you're the greatest shooter of
all time? Because basketball is a team sport. It's not
an individual sport. Otherwise Alan Iverson would be seen so
for the better the team. That makes no sense. It
makes no stand. If I could say, what one of
the things too? If they lose to Portland, I don't
think that that's a knock on them, because some people

(01:02:31):
might argue Portland has the better back court than the Warriors.
How could they They have the best the best Golden
State at all time. Golden State has the best shoot
of all time? How could they lose? Doesn't make sense?
Thank you, Randy, appreciate it. Good car. How about Marklets
squeeze another one that Mark and San Francisco join the
odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Mark? Hey?

(01:02:54):
What's up? Rob? What's up? Chris? Stays are taking my call?
You need to stop hating on K D. Hayden. Let's
let's talk. He's the best player on the team. But
don't bring up analytics from regular season and the two
years up. The two years Before Katie, the Warriors were
seven and six in finals and one and one in

(01:03:15):
the final record they switched Katie for Harrison Barnes. Now
they're eight and one, and I don't understand how somebody
can say that Katie is the best player on the team, unstoppable,
but you don't want to go to him. You would
never say that to Jordan or anybody than him. Beat
What did I say? Go ahead, tell me what you

(01:03:36):
said that step Curry. They run better without Durrant running
the team or being the best player. Durrant has never been.
He is so unselfish when he played, he'd get if
the shot is there, he'll take the shot. That's why
when he went five for eight in Game two against
the Clippers, he goes, I just knew my shots that
they gave me the call. And then Kurt said afterwards
he needs to shoot twenty to thirty times, called his

(01:03:58):
number every time he put up could be in Game
three and then he started sworn could he started throwing
them more time? And I never said they shouldn't go
to Kevin. Durant said that took away from the greatness
of Steph Curry. That's what I said from Curry because
you have do get to shine as much. Did you did,

(01:04:18):
Steph Curry? You saw in Game six? Did you see
a lot of that this season when he gets in
the regular season. Yes, he'll put up forty thirty point
Sometimes you didn't see thirty three? You didn't see that?
You didn't you did? You rarely see the Steph Curry
of twenty sixteen nowadays. All right, thanks for the car,
We appreciate it. All right. How the Warriors actually tougher

(01:04:39):
to defend without Kevin durand former NBA Coach of the
Year George Carl has the answer next, But first let's
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(01:05:22):
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He is a former NBA Coach of the Year. You

(01:07:11):
know him well, George, Carl, George, how you doing, what's happening?
What's going on? Man? You have a fun with the NBA?
Always great playoffs. I love you. I thought yesterday's games
the two games from a coaching standpoint said so many
things about how great a seven game series is. I mean,

(01:07:34):
you had wild cards, you have great players, you had
great shots, but you also had fatigue, and you had
teams that were each other out and buy the fourth
quarter in Toronto and Philadelphia had about seven guys didn't
want touch the ball you had. You had a lot
of things that I've witnessed as an NBA coach, And
the coach around doesn't still win. And usually you're coaching,

(01:07:57):
you know, a little bit more negative than possible, Yancey,
did you you mentioned guys not one to touch the bond.
We saw it with both teams, like you said, especially
I thought to Rono Kauhi is the only one one
to shoot? How much did you see that in your
coaching career, whether it was your team or the opponent, Like,
is it common for a lot of guys not to

(01:08:19):
want any part of that moment? It's common as players
hit a wall to where their performance is it is
it's just not positive anymore, you know. And and sometimes
it's a guy that has played thirty minutes for you,
and and sometimes it's a matchup you're end that creates that.

(01:08:41):
But you know what I loved about the Portland's Denver game.
Was Evan Turner in my mind, won that game for
him and he probably doesn't get it on the court.
If Runnie Hood doesn't get hurt Jordan, maybe maybe he doesn't,
maybe he doesn't. But there's a chance that Runninge Hood
as a a B plus game going Evan Turner's nine

(01:09:04):
in the rotation. George, I mean ahead, I was gonna
ask you about I noticed the new NBA and all
the three point shots. Denver missed its last seventeen three
pointers a couple of years ago. I mean last year,
Houston missed twenty seven three pointers in a row, you know,

(01:09:24):
to lose, and also Boston lost to Cleveland and Lebron
James where they missed twenty nine out of thirty one
three pointers. Do you just keep shooting them or do
you decide to do something else. I've seen this happen
in the playoffs. I can't get over it. Well, I
think in the last couple of years, I believe that

(01:09:47):
there's a lot more bad three point shots being taken
as where I take thirty. If you take thirty really
good three point shots in the game and the defense
is making you take those shots. I think it's a
good play. I'm tel to the point where you're over twenty, right,
and then you're just gonna Then you just gotta get

(01:10:09):
a good shot. And in the last two or three
minutes of the game, sometimes you gotta throw out the
idea that layups and threes only layups and threes, because
at that point in the game, the object is good points.
Get points from free throws, get points from top throughs,
get points from a short jump shot, whatever it takes,

(01:10:32):
because it's hard to score. In the seventh game, it's
the last two minutes of that game, George, that Philadelphia game,
Joe LMB. We know he's the best, probably the best
big man in the world. He was outside practically the
whole game at the three point line, playing like a guard.
Part of it, I believe, is because they have to

(01:10:54):
put Ben Simmons down low just so that the other
team will guard him, because if you put him on
the premiter they want and guard you, then you forced
to put m beat outside for spacing. How would you
handle if you got these two guys on your team
and Simmons obviously can shoot a lick and won't even
take jump shots. How would you handle playing them together? Oh, well,

(01:11:19):
the one place to put him is where they put him.
But you can play. You can play Benn Simmons out
on the floor and make him a cutter. And that's
what we had. Andre Miller Andrey Miller didn't like to
shoot jump shots until the fourth quarter, but we always
put Andrea in a position where when we threw the

(01:11:39):
ball at the low post, he was our cutter. Here's
our guy that you know if you if you turn
your head, or we could set an screen away to
get him cutting into the paint, which creates a problem
and then then you find the open shot that way.
It's see I couple of Fox Sports Radio. I guess
George Call, of course, former NBA Coach of the Year.

(01:12:01):
Hey uh George, Um, what did you make of John
Beeline of the Michigan coach taking the Cleveland job. I mean,
I mean five years I could see why he would
grab that job. But at sixty six years old, oldest
guy to ever get his first time coaching gig in
the NBA, what do you make of that? I think

(01:12:22):
two things. He's tired of recruiting. I believe that he
might be tired at parents and The third thing was
Cleveland's gonna go young. They're gonna get their roster is
gonna be made up of twenty to twenty three year olds,
and you got you gotta hell of a guy at
it right now in the last ten years his coach

(01:12:45):
twenty year old kids is pretty good. I think I've
always thought he was a really good coach. I've always
thought his teams ever achieved, played hard, and played as
a team. So um, but I think he's run from
I mean, moving into the NBA is a it's a
different game. I mean, Bobby Knight told me a long

(01:13:05):
time ago, college game in the program, totally different games.
And you want to be a college coach, you're a
crazy roach. Hey your excellenses in here? Oh I'm sure.
I'm sure he threw some of those in. Also, what
do you make of the Lakers mess? Here's my my issue,
because it's like they hired co coaches with Vogel and kid.

(01:13:29):
Does that have a workout or just seem like they
couldn't make a real decision on one guy, So the
two guys they interviewed, they took both of them. Is
that a good thing? Well, I think I should work
out but I don't think it's the way it should
be worked on. To be honest with you, I think
you're hired to be a head coach, to be whatever

(01:13:50):
you want to be as a head coach. You want
to be dominating, you want to be victorial, you want
to be the democratic, whatever you want to be, but
you cannot have players looking by you. And we're gonna
have all summer. Everybody's gonna be talking about this. Frank
Vocal is a good coach, and he's a solid coach,

(01:14:12):
and I think I think he's going to work out.
And Jason had had his moments in Milwaukee, but I
think they got to work through this negative energy. You know,
I always thought summer talk was always weird, and summer
talk is never the truth. And so for three months
there's gonna be all this summer talk, free agent talk,

(01:14:33):
all this stuff, all this predictions and evaluations, and the
truth will come down is when they go on the
court in September and see how they connect with one another. George,
there's no down. I think there's any doubt that Kevin
Durant as the Warrior's best player. But is it possible
that they're tougher to guard when he's not there, just

(01:14:56):
because of the excessive ball and player movement. Well, I
think they can play at a high level either way.
And I think when you have Kevin Durant and you
have the Marcus Cousins, you have more insurance policies because
when it doesn't work out, you can change. I don't
think they have the versatility that maybe change right now.

(01:15:19):
But the style they played three or four years ago
without Durant's pretty damn impressive to meme. And they that
game that Game six, that was pretty damn impressive to me.
So I still think they're the team debats I have.
I have a quiet feeling that Durant's going to get
back sooner than you think. And I think they you know,

(01:15:41):
that's all, and then they're going to have both personalities.
But I think over the last three or four years
they've gotten tired a little bit about playing the right way.
Now they're forced to play the right way. Yeah, hey, Joe,
I want to tell you how old I am? You ready?

(01:16:02):
My first my first year cover in the NBA was
nineteen eighty seven, and I believe but I remember talking
to you at the Brendan bern Arena in nineteen eighty seven,
and I believe you were coaching the Cavaliers back then
eighty seven, I was coaching gould State. Oh all right,
Golden State. But you you at coach Cleveland right before that, right, well,

(01:16:25):
great Bagley teams. Yeah, we played the Celtics in the finals,
I mean in the first round and lost. John, Yeah,
all right, it was the next year we go. I
knew you were, but that's how far back I can
still remember that interview we talked back in nineteen eighty seven.
That's great. Was that was probably my first one of

(01:16:45):
my first years coaching. So we've had a long time. Man. Oh,
no doubt about old George. Yes, I am all right,
great stuff. We always appreciate the wisdom. Okay, John, and
have fun. Thank you enjoining the NBA. Baby, all right,
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it's time for sources say check, check, check. Everybody hear me.

(01:17:53):
My sources say, these two have been covering sports for
nearly three decades, apiece. I will say this. Let's put
the big Jay journalists to the test. Its sources say,
let's go Rob Jack. Guys, it is sources say you
know this game works. We're gonna put Chris and Rob's
one hundred and nineteen years of combined journalist experience to

(01:18:16):
the test. Where all these stories all sound a little
bit real, that sound a little bit fake. And it's
up to you, guys to tell me which sources are good.
So let's get started. Rob Parker, You're going first because
you're the defending champion. My sources say that. Aaron Rogers.
Aaron Rodger, the Green Bay Packers made a cameo in
last night's episode A Game of Thrones, and his character

(01:18:38):
died in an explosion of fire. Robin was sources good.
I know he was on there, but I don't know
if he died or not. All right, what's say? I'm
looking at me? Uh quit, I'm gonna say true. Yeah,
I know he was on or gonna be on. I'm

(01:18:58):
not sure. I'm gonna say fall. I think he's gonna
be on it. All right, that's it. It's a done deal.
Let's let's we don't we out of time? Chris, that's it,
all right, we moved on four quarters. Sorry. Story number two.
My sources say that the San Diego Padres change their
Twitter handle to Madre's yesterday it's the board to Mother's Day,

(01:19:20):
and promptly had their original Twitter handers stolen by a
kid from Poway, Chris, And my source is good, that's true.
They somebody stolen. How could the original thing? Once you
give it up, don't you own it while? You gotta
put in some kind of a special plan to make
sure you don't get it taken from you? And I

(01:19:44):
copying me. I'm not copying you. I was trying to
be clarified. Said it with confidence. New rule, there's no
clarifying questions anymore. Because I feel like, what's the new
rule is if you're ahead, you you have no that
is not the new. That is the new. I'm not
playing your rules, Chris, all right, you're that scared, did you?

(01:20:05):
I want you to play the right way. It's two
games to win. Rob Parker up on CHRISP sorry his
source to say the Eye couple sticking with the Green
Bay Packers. My sources say that their offensive line celebrated
the Bucks series clinching win over the Celtics last week
by drinking an entire keg of beer in one night.
That's about one hundred and sixty five beers amongst seven dudes.

(01:20:26):
Rob and my source is good false. I do think
that's false. You sit on a throne of lies. Don't
copy me, Chris, don't copy me. What was the truth?
The truth is one of their linement was at the
game drinking beer. That's the truth, all right. Story number
four finished off a keg. They got some issues. They're

(01:20:49):
big news. They probably could. They probably could. Rob is
up three games to two. Story number four. My sources
say that Kobe Bryant admitted earlier this week on Twitter
that he listened to Mariah Carey shake it off on
repeat for two hours the day he scored eighty one
against the Raptors. Chris, and my source is good, godly,

(01:21:12):
it can't be true. I'm gonna say false. False. You
sit on a throne of lies. It was stop copying me, Chris. Yeah,
it was some song, right. No, he listened to the
game's documentary album the whole season, That's what he did. Oh.
I was gonna say that, yeah, all right off, because

(01:21:35):
I just thought, like, you know what, did he take
a hundred shots in that game? I don't remember almost
as many as kat. Oh, he didn't take thirty nine,
he took more than that. I don't think he shot
like Dory number five. My sources say that Marshawn Lynch
was played five thousand dollars all in quarters for a
two minute interview with the now defunct aa F last November. Robin.

(01:21:58):
My source is good in he would paid five grinding
quarters for an interview with the af five grand in
quarters in quarters. H No, in court, somebody paid him
in quarters. No, that's false. That can't be true. It
sounds too crazy not to be But no, false. Oh,

(01:22:19):
we'll pay somebody off in quarter mar Sean Lynch asked
for the money in quarters and he got it. And
with that, Rob Parker is the winner kind I'm letting
you win. No, you ain't let me win. It is
the I couple. I'm Chris, He's robbed. We're coming to

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join us to talk about Frank Vogel, Rob Polinka, Kurt

(01:23:05):
and Linda Rambis, the whole nine yards, even Lebron James.
We will get all the scoop on the Lakers, so
you don't want to miss that. But Rob Parker, let
me start here. I think you and I agreed, at
least I proposed it. I don't know if you agreed
or not that this postseason we would find out who

(01:23:27):
is going to wear the crown of the world's best player,
the mythical crown of the best player in the world.
Lebron James, has warned it for years, but because he
couldn't lead the Lakers to the playoffs this year, we're
gonna take that from him, if only temporarily. We'll see
if he can grain it back. He'll never get it back.

(01:23:49):
That he might not. I mean, you wouldn't think in
his seventeenth year. If you go forward, he's coming out
on a mission. Just just remember that on a mission. Okay,
just remember that saying. Remember that Shannon Sharp would say,
bring that same energy next year, all right, because you

(01:24:10):
didn't bring the same energy when you were supposed to
move to Mexico. I went to Kim Coop for the weekend.
That wasn't the bet anyway. I think it's a three
man race. I think Kevin Durant, Yannis on to the
Kumpo of the Milwaukee Bucks, and Kawhi Leonard James Harden

(01:24:31):
was in the race. I think he's dropped out uh
and Yannis because his lack of a jump shot. I
think the other two would probably have to be a
bit ahead of him. But because Kevin Durant and I
don't take anything from Durant on this, but his team
is dope without him. Dope was was dope. Before he

(01:24:54):
got there and dope now that he's injured, and that's
been the case during the three years. So I'm not
saying Kawai's ahead. There's still much basketball to be played,
but Kawhi Leonard is definitely making a hard push for
this and no harder push did he make than to
hit this shot. Then we get it to Leonard drives

(01:25:18):
right down to the beastline, fall away for the win.
Good Kawaii Leonard shot went up in the air and
hit the rim. It bouched on the rim before going
through the bucket. Toronto wins ninety two ninety It's on Ja,

(01:25:39):
Milwaukee and the Eastern Concrex fight on rob. Before you
begin to weigh in on this, you want me to
read you the numbers of the three guys throughout the
postseason or not? Yeah, that's fine. K d thirty four
points a game, leads all scores, fifty one percent from

(01:26:00):
the field, forty one point six percent from three, doing damage.
Kawhi Leonard thirty one point eight points a game, fifty
four percent shooting forty point eight percent from three. These
dudes are deadly from three. Yanis thirty one I'm sorry,

(01:26:22):
twenty seven points a game fifty two percent shooting thirty
two percent from three impressive numbers, yep, yep. So what's
your take on you know who's playing the best in
this postseason? I still think it's Kevin Durant. I know
he's injured, So it's always hard. Out of sight, out

(01:26:45):
of mind. You see what Kawai did, which you know, no,
you hadn't seen that. It has never been seen before
in NBA history, Game seven seven winner, buffer beating game winner,
You've never seen that, So that's at the top of
your mind. But his numbers were unbelievable before of course
getting hurt. Um, So I still would say k D.

(01:27:09):
I would stick there because of what he was doing,
which was legendary. Uh, just just the numbers he was
putting up after especially Chris, after everybody complained that he
wasn't shooting. You remember that, and then after that he
just went on, you know who, I like that. That's
a great clip for him. It is because he was

(01:27:31):
dad serious. It wasn't saying with a smurd, No, was
a chuckle. It was like he was really like, yep,
do y'all know who I am? I'm Kevin Durant. It
was great but anyway, the thing I like about these
three guys is all of them are great defenders. Every
single one of them is a tremendous defender and obviously

(01:27:54):
offensive player. If you bring the team into it, like
the team six sess, then obviously you'd have to go.
At this point, it could change, but you'd have to
go with Yannis because his team has rolled. They're eight
and one in the postseason. I know Detroit wasn't much

(01:28:15):
of a team to face, but they routed them, you
know what I mean. It wasn't like they right, they
just demolished them. Toronto didn't demolish Orlando like that. Who's
about as good as Detroit, you know, so you can't
hold that against them. And then Boston, and I know
it was full of dysfunction, but that still was a
pretty good team and to beat them in five and

(01:28:37):
four blowout victories. They they have been incredibly impressive. And
if you take so if you take the team aspect
into it, then you'd have to put Yannis ahead. I
just think his lack of a jump shot and a
three point shot specifically, does get the other two an

(01:29:00):
advantage over him. I think he's gonna continue to get
better at it, and you know, in four or five years,
he's gonna probably be a really good, you know, more
than adequate three point shooter, and then it's gonna be over.
I mean, he's gonna be unstoppable. If if Golden State
doesn't win a championship or it gets knocked out bybably,
say Portland, does that Does that increase Kevin durance? Do

(01:29:24):
you know what I mean? Like, win without Hill State?
If they lose without him? Does he win if they lose? Well,
the way that you want to look at him, you
know what I'm saying, it's one of those situations where
you'd love to be in his head, you know, because
let's face it, he's human. Human nature is that you

(01:29:44):
want them to lose? I don't care what, No, you're
absolutely human nature. That is human nature. I don't want
to be off the radio show Chris for a month, right,
and the radiings go off, I don't. I mean Jonas
fills in and we go the rule am I right? Right?
I mean let's just be honest. No, you're you're absolutely right,

(01:30:05):
and that that doesn't mean Kevin Durant's a bad guy,
because that's human nature. All human beings think that now.
I do think a part of him obviously is pulling
for his teammates, and you want them to win. But
to your point, is human nature to want them to
need you, and so I agree, I do think rob

(01:30:27):
if they let's say he doesn't get back this series
and they lose to Portland, right, there's no question it
raises his stature. In fact, if if kind of like
Kobe got his statue stature right, Lebron Lebron not making
it to the playoffs, right, absolutely, You're absolutely right. And
here's the thing, if the big if, But if the

(01:30:51):
only reason Kevin Durant is contemplating going elsewhere New York,
the Clippers, whoever, if the only reason is because he
feels like he'll never get his just due in Golden State.
But if he loves it, you know all the other
things about it, loves the way they play, loves his teammates,

(01:31:12):
looking forward to playing in the new arena in San
Francisco next year, you know, like loves the thought of
trying to win five or six championships with this group,
then that would give him a reason to stay, you know,
just like when the year he went there. As much
as he wanted to go there because of their style

(01:31:33):
of play in the unselfishness, and he just thought that
was beautiful basketball. If they had won the championship, if
they had beaten Cleveland, I don't think he could have
went there. And I don't think he would have went there.
That's interesting. That would have been different. That would have
really been bad to go there, right, if they won
a championship, that would that would have looked to him

(01:31:53):
it was bad enough, right, but he would have win.
I don't think he would have win. So I agree,
there's no question it makes him look better if they lose. Yeah,
but remember go back two years now. Again, it was
two years ago, but Durant was there and they played
Portland in the playoffs and they swept Portland, and Durant

(01:32:16):
only played two of the four games. So if they're
as good as they were a couple of years ago,
the other guys, they shouldn't have much of a problem
with Portland. But I think, you know, Portland's better, And
I know Lillard and McCollum are really looking forward to
this matchup because I'm sure in their minds, and I

(01:32:36):
fully believe this, in their minds, they think they're better
than Steph and Clay, and they should, but I just
think they really feel that way. I think the difference
is that McCollum and Lillard have to work a lot
harder to get their shots, and Steph and Clay are,

(01:32:57):
you know, spotting up running off screens. Now, that's a
lot out of running, but they're not just handling the rock,
breaking down their man things like that. So it's gonna
be an interesting series. But your point as well. Well
stated that it would look better for Kevin Durant if
the Warriors lose without him, No doubt. It's gonna be

(01:33:18):
definitely interested as they move along, and Barton Finley already
said that, what do you say that there's a chance
that k D might not play the first two games? Right? Right? Yeah?
I think he's Yeah, he's probably out the first two.
So so let me let's we might as well do
our picks, Rob for this next round. Um, I've got

(01:33:39):
Golden State winning with or without k D. And I
am I like you said all year, I picked Toronto.
I picked Toronto before the playoffs started, but in this series,
I'm going with Milwaukee. Wow, I think they've been more impressive.
As I mentioned, they've been more impressive in the player.

(01:34:01):
I know Philadelphia is incredibly talented, but I don't think
they're that good yet because of their lack of maturity,
lack of execution, so on and so forth, and the
fact that they gave Toronto literally all they could handle.
I think Milwaukee's gonna get the best of Toronto. I
think Milwaukee's not ready, not yet, just like Philadelphia wasn't ready.

(01:34:25):
They got a great player in Janice, but a lot
of those guys haven't been there on this stage, and
Toronto has a guy who's been there, done that, been
on those moments. I'm going to go with Kawhi. Kawhi
is why I believe in the Raptors. He is the

(01:34:47):
guy that you want to have on your team, with
that experience, with that knowledge, with that ability to seize
a moment and do what his team needs. So I'm
gonna go with them. And the same thing. I just
think Portland has a nice team, uh just not ready,
just not not there. They got through Denver. Denver helped

(01:35:08):
him out a little bit. Seventeen straight threes missed to
end the game. Uh, you know, you could say Damian
Little didn't play great. You know what I mean. He
was he was bailed out by seeing you, Chris. He
was not only great, not great in the last game,
but really the last few. Right, So I'm just gonna

(01:35:28):
go with Golden State with or without Kevin Durant. And
uh that was my original pick, as you know before
the season was Toronto against Golden State. I'm sticking with it.
What would it take you mentioned you're believing in Kauai,
what would it take for you to move Kawuhi ahead
of kd as the best player in the world. He'd

(01:35:49):
have to win the championship, win a finals MVP. He'd
have to do that because we've already seen you. He'd
have to do that because we've seen Kadie and I've
seen him do it against Lebron on you know what
I mean. And I would need Kawhi to do something
like that because then that would give him two finals MVPs, right,
just like yeah, just like him, so I can move

(01:36:11):
him into that category, all right, you'll turn away in
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(01:38:01):
and who is the best player in the world right now?
I love that that you're using the right now because
that's the way you gotta do it. Hey, Chris, I
want to give a queak. I want to give a
quick shout out. We got one of our loyal listeners.
He always hits me up on Instagram from Hamilton, Ontario, Canada,
and his name is Brian. I don't know how. I'm
a Butcher's last name is m O I R. How

(01:38:24):
would you say that? M O I R more? I
guess I don't know, Rob G what do you what
do you think I'm gonna go with more more m
O I are all right? But anyway, thanks for listening.
He's a big supporter of the show. He loves the show.
All right, Chris, you ready to talk? To while some
of our listeners. Yes, let's do it. Let's start with

(01:38:46):
Chris in Virginia. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Chris? Hey, guys, thanks for going
to call. Appreciate it. I think, um, you know, you
were talking about the numbers of all the players there
and why they all had great numbers. Yannis probably would
have a higher numbers and it wasn't for the fact
that his team's been rolling through everybody and a bad self.

(01:39:10):
So that's a good point though, Right, that's a good
point because they're less games, right, they're winning the blowouts,
and he does have the better I mean, he's averaging
twelve and a half I'm sorry, eleven rebounds a game,
so he's doing it on the backboards too, only four
and a half assist down from his season average of six.

(01:39:30):
All right, let's go to Max in Georgia. You're on
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. Max, what's happening?
Good evening, privilege as always, gentlemen, Thank you, Max. Hey,
and by the way, Chris, not to call you out here,
but you gotta get that man his Jordan's come on
there we go? Yes, is that your cousin or something.
Rob There's no any time somebody said I gotta be

(01:39:55):
related to the gotta be related somebody calling up trying
to take three hundred dollars out of my that's got
to be related to you take it out of your girl,
out of your daughter's mouth, right right, right, So KD right,
career staty twenty seven, seven and four, guy, and you
got Kawhi seventeen six and two. Now, I can't really

(01:40:19):
hold him on that seventeen because obviously he was a
part of the Spurs organization, and so he's talking about
career numbers right right, career numbers. But I think what
I wanted to say was is until Kawai, which hopefully
we could maybe see it this year in the finals
if both teams progress. I want to see if Kauhi
can go at KD, because I do think it's fair
to say Kadi is the best player in the world.

(01:40:40):
He snatched it from Lebron two times in a row
in Game threes in his face, knocking that jumper down.
So I think I want to see him try to
do something similar to that, or starting similar to game
seven like he did the other day to k D.
Because if he's able to do that with his defensive skills,
I would have to say he might be able to
take the crown. But right now it's Kase. I think

(01:41:03):
that's a great call because the three of these guys, Yannis,
Kauai and kd. The great thing about this is we're
likely to see them actually go at it. Mino Omano,
you know what I mean, Like they're the same position essentially. Yeah,
which would be great. And I gotta say I said
it before the playoffs started. They have been great even
without Lebron. James. I don't know what the numbers are,

(01:41:24):
but the ratings are up. But that happened, Rob g
Can you read that the ratings are of twenty percent
in the second round? Yeah, Chris, you have that. You're
pretty close. I think it is twenty percent. It's up, yeah,
exactly twenty percent from last year semifinals this year semifinals
because it got off to a slow start. Here that
there's no right, Rob, you hear that week? Good? The good?

(01:41:46):
What I say? Good? What do you want to kill you? Inside?
In fact, here's the because there's no Lebron, that's the reason.
Here's the proof that it's killing you. Your your very
next sentence after good was yeah, because they started so low.
What I'm just says when the truth was coming out,
not at all. Let's go to Sean and Sacramento. You're

(01:42:07):
in the yard couple of Fox Sports Rare. You got
me all wrong? Chris, what's up? Sean? We got a
bad cell man. I don't know what happened. How about
Charles in Atlanta, You're on the D couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up? What's happening? I still think it's
Katie because he's the only one that has done it

(01:42:29):
on the biggest stage as the man. Jannis has not,
although he's very impressive, he has not done it on
the biggest stage in Kauhai. This this is really his
first time being the man on this stage. So is
it right now? It feels KD but it's still up
for grabs, you know what I mean. That's a good call.
Now he does have that, there's no question that history.

(01:42:51):
I think the advantage that the other two have when
you're talking about this mythical title is that they don't
have to help KD hash you know what I mean.
Like Kawhi, Kawai and Yannis are actually very similar in
that they're the solo stars on their team. You know,
they got some good players obviously, but they're the only
two stars. So you know, you can really take what

(01:43:13):
happens in this series as a big memorandum on their
actual individual brilliance too. Let's squeeze one more, and what
about Adam and Texas. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Adam? Hey, glad to be here.
Can you hear me? Oh? Yes, so great. Yeah. I
was gonna say, in a hypothetical offense with Yannis, k

(01:43:35):
D and Kawuhi, who would you trust with that last shot?
And I think that's your answer. Well, last shot I go.
I mean Kadie, he's made him. We've seen this guy, Kadi.
He could score in so many ways. I would take Katie.
There's no question. He's the best. Like he's the best
offensive player of the bunch. You could do every score

(01:43:56):
at least score. I mean, Yannis is you know, a
great pass and rebounder and posts up. But scorer is KD?
No question? All right, Well, Frank Vogel and Jason Kidd
be able to coexist on the Lakers sideline. Brad Turner
from The Los Angeles Times has the answer next. But first,

(01:44:17):
let's bringing Brian Finley for what is trending. Brian, thank
you so much, Chris. He had the Lakers. They put
out a press conference officially announcing Frank Vogel as head coach.
In the note, team general manager Rob Polinka is quoted
as saying, coach Vogel has a proven track record of
success in the NBA playoffs, and he reflects the core
qualities we are looking for in a head coach, including

(01:44:39):
detailed game preparation, extreme hard work, and holding players accountable
to the highest basketball standards. Polinka failed to bring up
Vogel's substandard record with the Magic fifty four and one
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LA Lakers for the La Times. Brad Turner, what's up, man?

(01:46:47):
Pt Hey man, Look, I'm just trying to get on
you guys radio Shore. That's all. Oh? Is that what
it is? Yeah? Right, were glad you could come up
for air. We're glad you could come up for air
because I know they keep you busy. Man. Let's let's
start here. Brad. Why is Frank Vogel the head coach
of the LA Lakers? Because the Lakers said so? Right,

(01:47:10):
that's about it, because said they said so. But Brad,
here's my thing, I hear you. Is it that they
couldn't make a decision? You know this co head coaches
and bringing Jason Kidd, who they also interviewed. It just
seems like this is this is the mess the Lakers
are in. Even they couldn't decide on a guy. What

(01:47:32):
what is the the I know it's not officially a
co coach thing, but this this sounds like this smells
like it could be a disaster. You know, Rob, I
agree with you. I don't know how they came to
this conclusion. You highly head coaching and then you basically
tell him we want you to put Jason Kidd on

(01:47:55):
your staff, and then Thank Vogel says okay, fine, Is
that because he just wants a job? Does he nor
Jason Kidd? Has it worked together? These are things that
I'm still trying to mold over. Why it was done
that way, why they were so insistent upon picking any
course that came there, picking their staff. And if Frank

(01:48:17):
Bogo decided, yes, I'll take Jason Kidd on my staff
that I hope it works out for them, But you
just have to wonder how can two guys that don't
know each other, have never worked together make this work.
I'm with you, Brad, who is who has the final say?
I mean beyond Jennie Buss in basketball decisions. Is it

(01:48:39):
Rob Polinka or is it Kurt rambus Orb or there.
You know what I'm starting to think, without having been
inside the room, that it's all of them. It's Kurt,
it's Linda, it's Rob, it's Genie, and maybe it's even
Joey and Jesse Buss. They've had some input, and so

(01:49:00):
you have all these different voices. How do you come
to a conclusion on what's best for the team, best
for the organization, what's best for the players. I don't
know if they got the best guy that was available,
but having talked to guys like Shack and Robert r
and Rick Fox, Mind Harper, they all agree that at
least give thank voll With a chance to do this,

(01:49:22):
to do the job, he might turn into a really,
really good coach. As Robert Ry told me yesterday, Phil
Jackson is not walking through that door. Pat Roddick is
not walking through that door. Rob Parker is not walking
through that door unless there was free food there. Anyway
we can come to the game. So all these decisions

(01:49:45):
had to be made by people, based on what I understand,
have a difficult time making a decision. So if you do,
you get together, you put all the hairs together. Someone
had to say yes, and the last someone, I'm guessing
I had to beat Jenny. No matter what Rob Polinka said,
no matter what Could Rama said, no matter what Linda

(01:50:06):
Rama said, Jennie had to say, Okay, he's our guy. No, Brad,
I want to go to your point about what what
Shock and the other player said about buying in giving
Vogel a chance. I was talking to some people close
to Lebron yesterday. I'm told that Lebron is going to
get you know, he's gonna buy in, like he has

(01:50:26):
respect for Vogel, for those you know, Indiana teams that
gave his Miami Heat some trouble in Eastern Conference finals
three straight years, and that he's you know, he's gonna
give Vogel a chance, which I think if Lebron truly
buys in and this goes for not just the coach,
but the roster, whatever the heck the roster ends up
looking like, then I think the Lakers actually could be

(01:50:48):
a good team next year. Well good they were a
good team this year. Once upon a time or two,
everyone got hurt, right, of course, they became a bad team.
I'll say this about Lebron James. I heard these stories
about him being passive aggressive, and once he became a Laker,
I saw the Lebron James that can be passive aggressive.

(01:51:11):
I think Lebron James, based on what I've been told
by guys who have coached him, you have to coach
him and you have to manage him so the kids
can think also manage the guy. Can he also manage
all of the young players Lonezo, bald Ingram Kuzma. Can
you get them to buy into his system? His vocal

(01:51:32):
strength is being really good and settled on defense. Who's
going to be that coach that takes the team and
gets him into a good offensive set that Lebron James
is going to say, you know that's a good call, coach?
Or where he kind of questioned that call, or what
he just run, what he wants to run, what he
has done at times over his career to a high
degree of success. Bright I do have a question in there.

(01:51:56):
I know they have their coach now, but in the
coaching search, when you're snooping around for names and different people,
did you ever ask about Mark Jackson and if they
had any interest in him or have you just heard
that he's been blackballed from the league, because I don't.
I don't see his name mentioned for jobs, let alone interviews.

(01:52:16):
But earlier on Mark jackson name kept piping up in
the circle and all I heard from Malakas was that
he was not on their list of candidates. But I
had also heard neither was Jason Kidd. And somehow Jason
Kidd to his agent, I'm guessing his agent just watched
through Linda Ramas, who they have a good relationship together,

(01:52:39):
was able to get his guy there for an interview.
And once Jason got there, he wooed Curt Ramas and
Rob Polinka, so he was able to keep his name
out there. What Jason Kidd did do was, in many ways,
he picks he picked for the job. He went on
those shows and he talked about whatever it'd be like
the coach Lebron James coach of Lakers. But I'm not

(01:53:00):
trying to give Lukewalker's job, so that stays in your content,
right right, BROB Jackson really didn't do that on those broadcasts.
What Brad, what input is Kobe having? We know, Rob
Pelinka I think was a big you know, Kobe Hire
if you will. What input is he having now, I'm

(01:53:21):
gonna say absolutely nothing unless Rob comes to him and says,
what do you think about this? And he gives him
an analogy and analysis of all the coaching candidates. But
as far as calling a coach, calling Gina, Jeanie and
Linda and Kurt, he wasn't doing that. Luc Kobe is

(01:53:41):
wanted a multipe mouretipe million dollar business. He has a
lot going on. The Lakers are his favorite team, iverson,
he loved the Lakers. But he's trying to make money,
man like Rob does making that money. Hey, I'm trying it.
See our couple of Fox Sports Radio. I guess Brad Turner,
of course, he covers the Lakers for the Los Angeles Times.

(01:54:02):
As far as the free agent market goes, and obviously
we got time here, Just what's your gut? Do you
really believe the Lakers have a shot at getting one
of the top four free agents whore gonna be available?
Are they just strictly because I guess I read stories
that were they're focusing on Anthony Davis more than anything.

(01:54:23):
Is that what you're hearing as well? Well? I don't
know if they're focusing on him because they have to
do that via trade. Right, If they do it via trade,
they still have some set of a kempt space, not
the max like they have right now, whereas I think
thirty five million dollars. The idea is, if the Lakers
can get a sit down with someone, then yes they
have a shot. I don't know who that's going to be.

(01:54:44):
Once up at a time where magic still works there,
I was pretty sure they would get a sit down
with Kyrie, they would get they had a chance after
half talking to Kawhi Leonard. Now I just don't know.
I mean, I just don't see someone Kay Thompson leaving
Golden State. We all keep hearing the same thing. Kivin
Durant is going to New York. He doesn't state at

(01:55:07):
Golden State. Right. Jimmy Butler's name for some reason hasn't
come up anywhere, so maybe he pops up with the Lakers. Man,
I think they have it. Look, do they have a
character somebody? Yes, they do until someone tells them to know.
Do you have any idea what their feelings are on
kimber Walker. I do know that some of the coaching

(01:55:27):
candidates will hire kimber Walker. Now, whether or not Frank
Bogel fuels that way, you know, I'm not sure. I
don't know what his intentions are, but they have to
think about that. But again we're Michael Jordan left, kimber
Walker leave. If he does, where all the I mean,
they were not lying to me this year. But if

(01:55:47):
he leaves a team, then what do they have down there? Right? Right?
All right? Was the great Brad Turner giving us every
man you need to know about the Lakers, y'all. We
always appreciate it. Man, Thanks Brad. Hey, Chris, I appreciate
you you. Oh man, I've known you for forty years.

(01:56:09):
I think Brad's you've been older than Rob. What I
think better? Yes? True, you definitely look best everybody? All right, Brad? Thanks?
You have to wear makeup on TV like me? All right,
I'm cautiously optimistic. You hear that Rob Parker about Frank Vogel.

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to interact with you. All right, Rob, I'm gonna say this,
I actually think this could work out for the Lakers.

(01:58:00):
And I'm not saying I'm all enamored with Frank Vogel.
When I first heard that he was the coach of
the Lakers, I was stunned. Like everybody else of the
four guys that were supposedly remaining on the list, Lionel Hollins,
Mike Woodson, Jason Kidd, and Frank Vogel, Vogel would have

(01:58:21):
been my fourth choice. He would have been the fourth
guy would have thought was gonna get that head coaching job.
I also thought it would have made more sense to
have Jason Kidd is the head coach and Frank Vogel
as an assistant, because we heard George Carl say it
on our show What an hour or two ago that

(01:58:42):
you can't have the players looking past the head coach,
and that is very possible with Jason Kidd. I mean
Jason Kidd. Whether you think he's a great coach or not,
every player on that team those he was a great player. Right.
Lebron has great respect for Jason Kidd. I think in

(01:59:06):
a bad spot, it's a tough situation. Look, however, and
here's why I think I said I'm cautiously optimistic. It
really Brad Turner just told us Shock, Robert, Ory, Ron Harper,
they all said the same thing. Lebron and the players
have to give Vogel a chance. If Lebron buys into Vogel,

(01:59:29):
then I think they'll have everybody else's gonna buy it.
It's just like Tim Duncan bought into Greg Popovitch, and
that allowed Popovitch to yell at everybody and do what
he want needed to do. Now, some of it's on
Frank Vogel. He has got to show Lebron because that's
the challenge you have with a high IQ player like Lebron.

(01:59:50):
He knows a lot, so if he sees that you
don't really know what you're talking about, then that's going
to lessen your stature in his eyes. So if Frank
Vogel can come in there with a solid system, a
solid game plan, he's prepared. They know what they're doing Defensively,

(02:00:10):
they're on board. Offensively, they everybody knows where they need
to be there in the right places. He holds guys accountable.
Then I think this could work out because I've been
told that Lebron is going to give Vogel a chance,
Like Lebron has really good respect for Vogel because when

(02:00:30):
Lebron was in Miami, they faced those Indiana teams that
were well coached and played the Heat tough in three
straight playoff series. Now, the Heat always won, they had
way more talent, but the Indiana Pacers took him to
six games twice and the seven games once. So he
has a chance. He has Lebron's respect from the get

(02:00:51):
goal let's see if he can keep it. If he
can keep it, Look, I think the Lakers and you,
you're gonna probably yell and scream and all this stuff.
But Ros said again, Rob, the Portland Trailblazers, with all
due respect, are in the Western Conference finals. You cannot
tell me a Los Angeles Sakers team with a healthy

(02:01:15):
Lebron James and whatever the supporting cast is. I mean,
if it's last year supporting cast that has some talent,
you can't tell me they can't be in the mix
with Portland and Denver. It's not about being in the mix.
This is where you make your mistakes. They got a
championship team. Yea, Lebron came here to win a championship. Well, no, no,

(02:01:39):
he did. But they need to get I just a
big time free agent. I think, get more optimistic than
I am, That's all. And I think the vocal situation,
no matter whether Lebron is okay, gonna give him a
look and give him a fair shot, I think will
wind up being a disaster because you've hired two head coaches,
one who played in the league and has that kind

(02:02:00):
of respect as a Hall of Famer, And I'm telling
you that the most of the players are gonna gravitate
towards him. Uh, Jason Kidd, that's what that's I think
this will be a disaster. And I'm not as convinced
as you that even Lebron's support is going to help it.
And you just heard George carl who's been you know,

(02:02:20):
been around this league for a long time. And I
just think that you don't pick two gods. Well, you
know what they say when you have two girlfriends that
neither one or any good. That's why you have two,
but they're not good. Right when you got more than
one quarterbacks, you don't have made you don't have gone. Yep,
I agree with that, and that's why I think it's
a mistake. And if you want Vogel, fine, but you
didn't need to hire Jason Kidd if you want to

(02:02:42):
Jason Kidd, no Vogel, I just don't. I don't get it.
That's not how or like I said, that could have worked,
had a better chance of working, just because Vogel wouldn't
have had the respect you know what I mean, It
wouldn't have been it. He wouldn't have been a threat
respect wise to Jay Kidd to make a good point.

(02:03:03):
There's a challenge there, there's there's no if, Sam's or
butts about it, all right, I couple Chris Bruce a
Rod Parker's signing off see you Tomorrow piece

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