January 16, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether it’s fair to say that Andy Reid has already eclipsed Bill Belichick has the greatest coach in NFL history, pay their respects to the late, great Bob Uecker and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, Super Bowl champion and WJZ-TV Baltimore pre- and postgame host Qadry Ismail swings by to discuss Lamar Jackson’s MVP candidacy, why a fast start is imperative for both sides in Sunday’s Ravens-Bills game, the importance of Derrick Henry and much more!
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So we got everybody in full effect on this TV
theme song Thursday, and uh Rob g jump in and
set up our first story, which is really about uh
Andy Weid of course, who's trying to win yet another
Super Bowl as a coach. And a lot of people
executives or whatever, they have higher respect for Andy Weed
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than they do apparently like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
The Athletic they did their weekly playoff.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Preview or they poll eight coaches and anonymous executives to
get their thoughts on the upcoming slate of playoff games. Unsurprisingly,
the picks for the Chiefs Texas rates to zero. Everyone's
picking the Chiefs. They're going to be back in the
AFC Championship Game, the Arrowhead Invitational as some people call
it in television.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Well one great if they lose. One of the reasons would.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
So.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
One of the reasons why an anonymous executive game for
why he's picking the Chiefs easily this weekend is because
the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Are quote headed towards an inevitable three.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Peat, and the reason being is that they're led by
quote the best coach in NFL history, Andy Reid.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I think, as usual, people get caught up the prisoner
of the moment and there's a twofold here. I do understand,
and I've said this before, Calvin, you downplay it, but
the cheating with New England is part of the reason
people don't give them all the credit.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
That they deserve.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
There's a segment of people, how can you even argue
with Bill Belichick who's won six Super Bowls as a coach,
two with the Giants as the defensive coordinator. And guess
what they won those two super Bowls with two different
quarterbacks and their defense was incredible, right, so you got
to get some credit, But people still will look elsewhere
(07:43):
when it comes to Andy Reid just call him like
the greatest coach ever. I just think like there's more
to it. It's too surfacey. Andy Reid didn't win in Philadelphia.
People actually thought that he was a choke artist early
on in his career because he went to four straight
NFC championship game. Finally got to a championship. They lost, right,
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but they got there. And then even on a couple
of the Super Bowls, they got some help in those
Super Bowls as well. They were down what were they
down at least ten in both of those to the biggest.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Choker in Super Bowl history? Right?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Who is Shanahan with the forty nine ers, who has
coughed up three of the biggest Super Bowl losses in
NFL history? And two of Andy Reid's wins came against Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean, obviously, if he does something nobody else's will do,
then you could make a better case for him. I
think this has a lot to do with Bill Belichick
more than anything, a slight of him because of the
cheating remember, Bill Belichick was caught with the spygate, was
fine the largest fine for any coach in NFL. That's
not debatable. Those are facts, not feelings. And I think
(09:04):
there are people who look at the Patriots and wonder
if everything was on the up and up. So I
think that's why Andy Reid gets the love that he's gotten.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, I don't think it's all the love is like
as if hey, we pulled one hundred people in ninety
five percent said Andy Reid. I think it's just a
small percentage that would say that he is. You brought
up good points that maybe there is some slight issues
with Bill Belichick, but more than often, I think most
people would say it's Bill Belichick. But and this is
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like a mega stallion CARDI b size. But But where
you can make the case is if you look at
it from a different angle than just simply the one
dominance that Bill Belichick had with the Patriots. He stayed
with the Patriots, dominated with the Patriots. We don't talk
about what he did with Cleveland. We kind of focus
on the Patriots run with he and Tom Brady. I
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think the difference is if you want to make the
case for Andy Reid. Well, shoot, you bring up he
didn't win as Super Bowl. Some could bring up, but
look what he did there though. He gets to all
those NFC championship games, he gets to the super Bowl,
doesn't win it, but gets to the Super Bowl. He
has Donovan McNabb as a Pro Bowl quarterback. Eventually we
get Michael Vick. Michael Vick becomes a comeback Player of
the Year, and he looks like, wow, Michael Vick looked
(10:17):
like this every year. He might be in the Hall
of Fame, one of the better quarterbacks ever again under
Andy Reid. Then he goes to Kansas City and has
dominated there his entire tenure. And if you look at
what he's been able to do over that, he is
one hundred and twelve and thirty six in the regular
season there in the nine years that he was making
the postseason. You look at eleven, I'm sorry, of the
(10:37):
thirteen years. Eleven of the thirteen years he makes a
playoff appearance. Obviously three super Bowl titles. So he's having
a first half of Bill belichick tenure with the Chiefs.
But he made Andy Reid Alex All of a sudden,
we forgot that Alex Smith was a quarterback he gets
under Andy Reid, best football of his career. Patrick Mahomes
third round pick. We don't know, we'll see. Maybe he's good,
(10:59):
maybe he's not. I don't know. Maybe he's just one
of those guys who was a system of the college
in it Bam, Andy Reid, Patrick Gomes great combination. So
I think the argument for him is that everywhere he's gone,
they've been very good. They've gotten to a super Bowl,
won a bunch of super Bowls in Kansas City, has
a chance to win another one. And he made everyone
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around him better. Whereas you could say with Bill Belichick, Okay,
was it you? Was it Tom? Maybe it was a
combination of the two. So do I give you full greatness?
And when I didn't see you do it alone? And
I think that would be the case. I believe Bill
Belichick is the greatest coach of all time. But the
case for Andy Reid is that he's been able to
do it a Lebron way. Well, Lebron will never beat
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Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan has six straight with the Bulls, right,
that was the system, That's what they did. They did that.
He Phil Jackson Pippin, but Lebron can say, Hey, if
you're trying to make a case, I wanted Cleveland, I
wanted the Lakers, I want a couple of Miami everywhere
I go. I've won. That just shows that I'm you
can say the better player that anywhere I go, any stop,
(12:05):
we're going to win a championship. So I liken the
two to that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Here's here's the flaw with your argument for Andy Reid
is you can't look at it that way without look
at looking at it that until he got Patrick Mahomes,
did he actually get over the hump and start to win.
So he couldn't win with anybody else despite their success.
And then if you're gonna look at and say.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You got to finish though, you're saying win the title
because he won.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
No, no, no, it's about winning the title. He couldn't
win the title. You don't go to four straight NFC
championship games. And and if that was the end of
his career, just say that you went to four straight
and you went to the Super Bowl, would you consider
him the greatest coach ever?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Absolutely, Okay, it's about winning. And so here's my other
poor point is that you're giving Andy Weid credit for
the offense. Okay, right, saying that that Alex Smith was
good and and Donovan Okay, so Bill Belichick has to
get all that. You could talk about Tom Brady and
the quarterback all you want. When their defense was top five,
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they won super Bowls when it wasn't. They didn't win
Super Bowl the game I'm saying, but that's not only that.
He also went with the New York Football Giants with
two different quarterbacks when he was a defensive coordinator. So
he does have something outside of.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The couple of years in Cleveland when he got he
met a team, but here when he led a team
without Tom Brady. Previously, pre Tom Brady wasn't doing nothing
in Cleveland. Post Tom Brady didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
No, no, no, But but you can't take no.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But you can't take away the top five defenses that helped.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Because that's because just because.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But when you say that with Brady, he didn't win
when they beat the same the l A Rams who
averaged thirty five points a game and got three points
in the Super Bowl and Tom Brady had an interception
and a fumble and no touchdown.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
What did you say he would win without Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And the conversation. If it wasn't he wouldn't be in
the conversation if he wasn't a great coach. My point, well,
what I'm saying is that he only wins because of
Tom Brady. I just gave you one example where he
did win, but without Tom Brady. You that was a
technical but you actually didn't. Tom Brady was on the
team's best performance.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
He didn't play well. That's not the reason.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I don't disagree tom Brady was on the team.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Tom Brady, but credit to when a team averages thirty five.
I got saying that you just talk about Aaron Glenn
and oh, look.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
With a job that he did tom Brady, look at it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
But he didn't play well.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He didn't have the argument could be Rady. He doesn't
even make it to the super Bowl without him.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, but when you get the greatest defense offenses ever,
you gotta give them maybe make it to the when
they when they beat and came back against Atlanta, they
shut them down in the second half.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That was bunch of points. Yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
If they give up one one touchdown, they lose no
matter what you score.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The defense is.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
A big part of it that boot ball.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
The argument could be Andy Reid had a bunch of
success with Philadelphia year in year.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Now, he had a he choked, he was known as
a cheat.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Was he went to the NFC Championships, he went to
a super Bowl, and all we know is post Brady
and pre Brady, Bill Belichick ain't do nothing. That's a
fair point, and it's that's just a fair point if
you're trying to say that Andy Reid, especially if he
wins the three peat. That's kind of the beginning of
this conversation. If he wins the three peat, which will
be four titles, you couldn't.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The whole point is we're saying, then, what would.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You say about Andy Reid if they don't win this year,
that he still comes still the greatest coach ever you
with the still coaching?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay, he still got he can mess around with three more?
Is it coach?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Or he could go the next four years without winning.
That could happen too. Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Is it fair to say Andy Reid is the greatest
coach of all time? Real Easy eight seven, seven ninety
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Speaker 3 (18:02):
Tim and Tacoma, Washington. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim?
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Hey?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You going doing great?
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Hey?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I just I just want to say that.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
You know, sometimes we included we get you know, we
get we is the wrong critario for measuring greatness. I
don't think that anybody has ever made an allegation against, say,
read about shooting. I don't think anybody's made an allegation
against Patrick Mahomes for he's playing balls and and all
(18:38):
the other horseship that's apart me all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That all right? Thanks Tim, All right, appreciate James into it.
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Speaker 6 (18:50):
Oh, thank you for taking my call gentlemen, Happy Thursday.
That's what couple. Oh geez man, salute the commanders appreciate it.
I'll tell you what Bill Belichick is certainly the besketball time.
You got six super Bowl rings they went to I
think what was it, nine total super Bowls without a doubt.
But to say that Andy Reid isn't at least in
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that conversation and will have the ability to move past him,
it is aci nine man, because the bottom line is,
you got a hundred wins with two franchises. He went
to four straight NFC championships with the Eagles the Super Bowl.
If they win this weekend, that's sixth straight AFC championships
with the Chiefs going for the fourth title. Three p't
(19:32):
at that which no one has ever betten.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, if he gets a three P, then' there's a conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
If they lose, then don't I don't know if it's
as close Andy weied not a young guy. How many
more years I'm saying if they lose this year, if
they win the Super Bowl, of course he's accomplished something
nobody was able to do.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That's obvious.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
All right, Well, there you have it right there again,
Andy Reid's got to get shot if he can mess
around and make something happen. All right, we got godre
Ishmann coming up in just a moment. Get to talk
some football with him. Looking forward to that obviously, talk
about some of these big matchups happening over the weekend.
But right now it is what's trending with Manci well Anjos.
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Super Bowl champion, co host of the Purple pre and
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Super Bowl champ as well. And Rob. You saw him
as a high school track star, backs.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right back in Wilkesbury. Unbelievable, Nis a grown man.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
What's up?
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What's up?
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Man? Tellers sellers. It's so crazy because because of all
the track exploits and all the things. This past summer,
my brother and I were inducted into the Lazourne County
Hall of Fame, which then I guess becomes a situation
where you could be nominated for the Pennsylvania Sports Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's right, that's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, when I was a high school sports writer there,
you guys were kicking everybody's butt anyway, every day.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
It was ridiculous. It was I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
What, Hey, we want to get into obviously some of
the big action happening this weekend. Before we go really
into the games, let's just talk about the season Lamar
Jackson has had. You could maybe even say the run
that Lamar Jackson has had over the last three years,
I mean could possibly be looks like it will be
three MVPs in a row. Did you see this coming
(21:40):
when he first came in the league, And if you didn't,
just talk about the growth of Lamar and where he
has become. Arguably I call him rob. I believe it
is the same with me. Best player in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Yeah, I think the big thing is not everyone saw
it coming, per se. But you also got to give
Ozzie Newsome credit for seeing it coming and recognizing that
he's a quarterback, recognizing that he's a generational player, So
shout out to Ozzie in his last draft and really
just it was remarkable. But with that said, you're also
(22:14):
looking at Lamar each and every year taking it upon
himself to grow into the quarterback that he's become. As
much as we look at some of his earlier exploits
and his own words, he's only gotten better. The game
has slowed down for him. And so that is where
I see Lamar today. It's one thing to get into
(22:34):
the league and you have your talent and you're really
good at what you do, but everybody's going to pick
up on that. They're going to make adjustments. It's the
generational talented players that adapt and because of that adaptation,
you never really can get a beat on the guy,
and therefore they're always dominating. And so this year is
(22:58):
yet another find that Lamar has elevated his game. He's
in his second year in Todd Monkins offense. He has
given him more control at the line of scrimmage, and
Lamar has not disappointed whatsoever. What forty plus touchdowns, only
four interceptions. You could look at those interceptions and be like, man,
(23:19):
that wasn't even his fault.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Three of them hit off receivers for sure, right, rightbut
absolutely well.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
I think the bigger picture is Lamar's maturation process has
just become what it is, which is a historic run.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'll say this. I mean we argued on this show
about it. I always thought that he was still the MVP.
I wasn't buying into the narrative that was being pushed.
Not that Josh Allen had a bad year or anything,
but the numbers just didn't stack up. And we saw
the All Pro voting, which usually is a precursor to
the MVP. It'd be hard for me to believe that
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people voted for him for All Pro won't vote for
him for MVP. So it looks like he has another one.
Did you ever doubt it at any point because he
was I know they had lost some games, but he
played really well. If the kicker made a couple of
field goals, they might win two or three games. Or
if the guy had a size eleven shoe instead of
a fourteen against the Chiefs, you might have won that
(24:19):
game as well.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yeah. No, no, you're absolutely right. I mean you can even
add in if some of the defensive guys could have,
you know, just simply caught the ball. You know, it
would change the entire complexion. I mean literally had the
game against Cleveland in hand and you had three legit
dropped Javis Winston interceptions and you wind up losing a game.
(24:44):
So Lamar, Yeah, from start to finish of the season,
even though some of those games were rocky games, you
couldn't say it was due to the poor performance of Lamarr.
It was more in line of, yes, kicker as well
as a defense.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah. And that's what makes him so special to me
is just the growth. I mean he came into everybody
questioned his passing and he wasn't the best at it,
and he just continued to get better. So let's go
to this game actually where this is really you know,
you could almost close your eyes and say, man, this
he has a super Bowl feel to it. We're going
up against the Bills. We know that he's two and
one against Josh, but Josh got him in the playoffs
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a couple of years a few years back. What do
you expect too, high octane offenses to high octane, multifaceted quarterbacks.
What are you expected in this one? And earlier in
the season. We know that Lamar beat and the Ravens
beat the Bills big time.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Yeah, they did, and I think again you're going to
see a slug fest. I think Disney want to be
one of those games where one of the Bills defenders
are going to just say, you know what, we're going
to have to set the tone early and they're going
to try to be incredibly physical and just make one
of those big splash, blow up Titan tackles to get
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Bill Mafia to just be like yo, not today, Ravens.
And I think for the Ravens offense, they have to
say to themselves, whether it be Lamar, whether it be
Derrick Henry, but the offensive line, you have to draw
the line in the stand that we're going into the
Lions then and you just straight up hit them in
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the mouth, like just right away, don't show don't flinch
one time, don't show any signs of weakness. Again, this
Ravens ball club historically has gone into the quote unquote
Lions then at different points in times. Heck, I can
even go back to two thousand when the Titans were
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at their zenus and we had to go down to
at that time what Adelphia Coliseum they called it. You
couldn't even hear. I think it's going to be the
same intensity times ten with Bills Mafia. But I believe
that if the Ravens can withstand that first wave of
inner from the Bill's defense, I think that they're built
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to wear down that Bills defense. It likes to play
a lot of nickel. It's a matchup that works in
favor for the Ravens. I think it can come to
fruition that the Ravens can get a win.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And I remember the one when I remember on the
road was the Patriots one with Ray Rice when they
ran all over the Patriots for almost three hundred rushing
yards or I think he had two hundred plus or whatever.
It's incredible. But let's go here. Probably should have asked
you this first, Zay Flowers, what's the deal? It doesn't
sound like he's playing. He missed the practice again, and
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what kind of a blow is that not to have him?
Even though you know they they've been rolling offensively, which
is pretty incredible when you think about it. The last
five games average margin of victory twenty one point two points.
That's what they've been beating people by, the average.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's beating think.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
I think the big picture is with they, you know,
He definitely gives you so much with you know, once
again the ball in his hand. He has that extreme
quickness and that ability to make big plays. But I
don't think that they're void of other players making big plays.
There have been times in the year where, yes, you
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talk about that margin of victory, there have been times
where you know they have had a relatively quiet game,
yet the team, the offense as a whole, still did
their things. And so I think that's something that you
take into account. Absolutely going to mis Veay Flowers, but
absolutely you're not going to sit back and think that
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you know they're going to be a pushover by any stretch.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
And here, let me just jump in one more time.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Here on last year that AFC Championship game against the
Chiefs where the defense shut the Chiefs out in the
second half, Zay Flowers had a big fumble at the
one I mean devastating, and uh, they weren't blown out
of that game. And remember they only did running backs
ran the ball only four times, which is just ridiculous.
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I don't know what game plan that was a year ago.
But you have Derek Kennedy, Now I just pick your poison.
What are you going to do with Derrick Henry and
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Again, you can't even go back to the Steelers matchup
in the wildcard round. There was the beautiful touchdown run
that filed the deal with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson.
Literally because of the way that mesh point works, you
didn't know who had the ball. Lamar just did a
fantastic job. Middle linebacker, the safety as well as the
(29:37):
corner and the outside end. Those four guys were out
of the play. As Derek runs up the field, you
have beautiful blocking by Linderbaum, by Bi Leiley, Mark Andrews,
Bonnie Stanley shutting off the backside, and now it is
just hey, Derrick Henry being untouched for the first what
five six yards? And anyone who's worked there waiting for
(30:00):
that follows football knows once there Henry gets going, he
becomes that juggernaut. King Henry is a tough guy to bring.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Down in less than about forty five seconds. If they
were to win this game, and let's assume they go
for they being the Ravens, they end up facing the Chiefs.
Do you believe this is the year they can get
through and get to the Super Bowl or the Texans.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
I'm sorry, no, no, I agree. I think if it's
the Texans, it'll be great because you're back at the vault.
If it is in fact going to be at Kansadity,
so be it. I mean, that's just providence. I think
both the two thousand and twenty twelve teams, they've had
to go on the road, they've had to face the best.
They've had to face some great quarterbacks. That's okay. I
(30:42):
think this team can do that too and secure their
own legacy as world champions.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
All right, there is kondre Ishman man, what's you all.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
The past day? Thank you man. We appreciate you always, brother,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yep, no doubt. He and his brother man some burners
right there. You've got to see it, all right. Shekel
City on the way. And also, obviously if you've heard
Bob Youucker has passed and Rob wants to pay tribute
to him and just give a little bit more insight
on his legacy and career. We'll do that here in
just a moment. It is the eye couple, Rod Parker
Kevin Washington on a TV theme song Thursday. Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (31:30):
Alex, you are a beast today. My goodness.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I watch Perry Mason every day and the show has
been off for fifty years.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You said watched or watched.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I watch every day. I still watch it.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know you do.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's a great show. I mean, it really really is
a great show.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Alex. Write this down for me. You know my beat
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Speaker 4 (32:20):
I won't say the restrictions.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Perry Mason was set in Los Angeles, so when they
talk about streets and you.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Know where people live. It's just funny now that I
live here, dude, me.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And my wife all the time now living here. Oh
that was that film, that movie that TV show us.
It's so hilarious. Once you live here, how you realize geez,
Hollywood dominates. It's either New York in LA. That's like
eighty percent of movies and TV show New York and LA.
That's about it, all right, man, Right now, it's time
for Shekel City.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
daily dicks against the.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
All right, Shekel City. Last night one and two. We're
now at fourteen and nineteen on the year. Yeah, thanks Lebron,
and yes we are. It's been a rough I was
ruing so shooting me. I was three and oh just yesterday,
I know, one and two, I mean two days ago,
one and two.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Last night. Here we go though, thank you, Teleballex he Tello.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I got the thunder tonight at home hosting the Cavaliers.
I'm gonna take the Thunder minus one and a half points.
I don't know what's the Washington Wizards score. Now I
have the Wizards plus eleven and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
We wanted to know.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I thought the Suns, oh wait a minute, donty down
by twelve, making eleven, they would cover if the game
was over, right now, got eleven and a half. They're
down by eleven. I took them because the Sun's played
last night. So I just had the Wizards, figuring that
they will lose, but not by more than twelve. And
after Portland trail Blazers plus six and a half taking
(34:03):
on the Clippers. Then, wasn't there at debacle last night?
It was ridiculous as poorly as they played, right, Yeah,
I mean, so come on, Portland can't play that bad again.
I mean, they'll lose, can't do it. They'll lose at home.
But plus six and a half, I'll take that. Remember
Portland plus six and a half, the Wizards plus eleven
and a half, and the Thunder minus one and a half.
(34:25):
And remember, Kelvin, I'm not telling you who the bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. That's right, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I have a dream that Portland and Washington and a
couple other teams Charlotte get the acts together.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
My gosh, terriboy, it's called the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Hey, we lost a true legend in the game of baseball.
Bob Uker, the long time Milwaukee Brewers broadcaster passed away
at the age of ninety, was nicknamed Mister Baseball. Didn't
have a great playing career at kelvin six years by
the like two hundred or something in his career, nothing
but he will a tremendous broadcaster and an ambassador for baseball.
(35:03):
A couple of things you might people listening might know
him for the movie Major League. They remember that just
a bit outside was one of the famous quotes on
the do we have it here we go.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Chip of the sixth man, rookie sensation, Ricky Vaughn on
the pitch nowhere you.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Can close the book on killder.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Oh, thank god Bonn a juvenile delinquent in the off
season and his major league debut. Vaughn into the windup
in his first offering, Josh, the bit outside and it.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Wasn't close, as you remember, we heard it hit the ball.
It was not close. Uh. And then the other thing.
And here's two things that are very interesting too.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
He appeared on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, which
was an NBC staple for thirty plus years. Over one
hundred times. Johnny Carson loved him over one hundred. Now
it's a guy from Milwaukee, you know what I mean.
And that's how it became popular nationally. He also had
six Miller Lite national TV commercials where he's sitting up
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close at the ball game and is ushered out of
his seat and he always said, oh, I must be
in the front row, and then of course he's sitting
in the bleachers by hisself. And the other one is
he was on Mister Belvidere.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Is that the TV show?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So he had a fantastic career and fantastic life.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
He's always intriguing to me because here is it was
Vince Scully, God bless it dead, and then Ernie Harwell
and Detroit as you know, and they while Vin Vince
Scully did a bunch of other games and other sports
and from golf to football to this and the other,
like you, er Bob, you could did a bunch of
rent like in movies. And he wasn't like just like
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simply doing that. He got to be a character in
the movies. And he's on the Tonight Show. And I
remember him growing up on those Midder Like commercials saying
about but another thing too, By the way, Hey he
got a home run on Sandy Kochex. I would tell
people you talking about an icebreaker for baseball fans, That'd
be the first thing I leave with. You went on
sand yea and the best picture of all time. A
lot of people say Sandy Kovic, Yeah, I went home.
(37:03):
I went yard on him. Anyway, what y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
But you know what I want to say, this is
baseball announcers are the soundtrack to a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Of people's lives. It's in the background.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
You know that you just mentioned in every city Ernie
Harwell on the radio. When I first came to LA
my first game and I was covering the Reds and
I came to the game, I was stunned how many
people brought.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Radios to the ballpark.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, because they were at the game, but they wanted
to hear Ernie. I mean, Vince Gulling. You know, like
that's how important. Like the biggest jobs are not the
TV job, the for the baseball announcers, you know that,
it's the radio jobs.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Still to this day, the radio jobs are the.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Biggest jobs and where people connect because those guys do
every single game.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And rest in peace, to bob your gay. He got
ninety out of him. You know, he got ninety years
and I tell you, I tell ninety in a variety
of things in his career like that. That's awesome, Jerry
Jones and Dion Oh boy, there's more. We'll tell you.
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The well, that's right. Uh so we have a lot
to do, so little time. Quadre Cadre. How do I
say it?
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Rob G give it to me, help me out. I
want to saydrekdre ishmar. I always want to say Quadri.
And then you know what's so bad is I covered
him when he was in high school?
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Right, Yes, he was a track star. Of course.
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Speaker 4 (02:52):
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What's up man? Wait, I gotta look at this. Okay,
so you promised a super cool hoodie sweatshirt, and it
looks like you may have promised and came through.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
So it's just it's a TV theme song Thursday and
television you see.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
With the whole you know, the colored bars. Yeah, hey,
I can't hold you up, Rod Parker. That's pretty hard.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
That's that's on the back. I like TV too as well.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Yeah, it's got the TV right there. All right. See
that's two days. I think that's two days in a row.
Rob Gi, he's been holding out. He's got that gold
Odd Couple hoodie that was super one of one. Now
he's got the TV theme song Thursdays. Inside the lining
it says Golden Girls Cruise.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
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Speaker 1 (03:45):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (03:46):
There you go. I told you I was gonna deliver,
So here we are on a TV thing.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
You didn't deliver. That deliver would have been if you
came and delivered to me.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yeah, okay, then I didn't do.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
You wore it. You didn't deliver. You wore it. But
it looks sweet, brother. I might need I need one
of that. I'll let me know. I need a large Alex.
I haven't coughed in like eight days.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I don't believe you.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
All right, settle down. Maybe you exaggerated a little bit there,
yet settle down.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
It's been it's been a minute, all right. Uh, so
much to do, so little time. That's welcome in the
odd Couple crew because we wouldn't be able to do
this fine radio program without him. I'm a little out
of it. I don't know, I just i'm a little
out of it. I'm a little I just took a
bad nap. You know, you take a thirty or forty minute,
you wake up and you're in a different place like
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it's it's not I don't feel good. I just feel
like kind of in a fog. I'll snap out of it.
But anyway, rob g is a.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Snap out of it real soon, just because I'm sure
I'm saying something that make you mad.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
That maybe you know, and then I'll just do that
and then your wife will turn the radio show off,
you know, like.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Hey man, you hear the show today. I started off, Yeah,
I was okay, I like rapt and Alex, I'll tell.
Speaker 4 (04:58):
You, yeah, I just can't take he's.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Always yelling at each other.
Speaker 4 (05:02):
It's called sports talk radio. It's called passion.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
Oh whoa, whoa, whoa. Watch your tone when you're talking
about wife, bro. I would like the way it's called
my wife en. I was team I was team US,
I couple. But don't don't, don't talk.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
It's called sports talk radio.
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I'm just saying, you can't talk radio. In a minute.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
When I see you, it's gonna be mean, all right.
Alex is our engineer, Thank you. Manzi Bolanos is at
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And of course Elijah Ever is our social media guru,
and uh.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
He's the best in the business.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
So we got everybody in full effect on this TV
theme song Thursday, and uh Rob g jump in and
set up our first story, which is really about uh
Andy Weid of course, who's trying to win yet another
Super Bowl as a coach. And a lot of people
executives or whatever, they have higher respect for Andy Weed
(06:06):
than they do apparently like Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (06:10):
The Athletic they did their weekly playoff.
Speaker 7 (06:13):
Preview or they poll eight coaches and anonymous executives to
get their thoughts on the upcoming slate of playoff games. Unsurprisingly,
the picks for the Chiefs Texas rates to zero. Everyone's
picking the Chiefs. They're going to be back in the
AFC Championship Game, the Arrowhead Invitational as some people call
it in television.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
Well one great if they lose. One of the reasons would.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
So.
Speaker 7 (06:42):
One of the reasons why an anonymous executive game for
why he's picking the Chiefs easily this weekend is because
the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
Are quote headed towards an inevitable three.
Speaker 7 (06:52):
Peat, and the reason being is that they're led by
quote the best coach in NFL history, Andy Reid.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I think, as usual, people get caught up the prisoner
of the moment and there's a twofold here. I do understand,
and I've said this before, Calvin, you downplay it, but
the cheating with New England is part of the reason
people don't give them all the credit.
Speaker 4 (07:21):
That they deserve.
Speaker 3 (07:21):
There's a segment of people, how can you even argue
with Bill Belichick who's won six Super Bowls as a coach,
two with the Giants as the defensive coordinator. And guess
what they won those two super Bowls with two different
quarterbacks and their defense was incredible, right, so you got
to get some credit, But people still will look elsewhere
(07:43):
when it comes to Andy Reid just call him like
the greatest coach ever. I just think like there's more
to it. It's too surfacey. Andy Reid didn't win in Philadelphia.
People actually thought that he was a choke artist early
on in his career because he went to four straight
NFC championship game. Finally got to a championship. They lost, right,
(08:04):
but they got there. And then even on a couple
of the Super Bowls, they got some help in those
Super Bowls as well. They were down what were they
down at least ten in both of those to the biggest.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Choker in Super Bowl history? Right?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
Who is Shanahan with the forty nine ers, who has
coughed up three of the biggest Super Bowl losses in
NFL history? And two of Andy Reid's wins came against Shanahan.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
I mean, obviously, if he does something nobody else's will do,
then you could make a better case for him. I
think this has a lot to do with Bill Belichick
more than anything, a slight of him because of the
cheating remember, Bill Belichick was caught with the spygate, was
fine the largest fine for any coach in NFL. That's
not debatable. Those are facts, not feelings. And I think
(09:04):
there are people who look at the Patriots and wonder
if everything was on the up and up. So I
think that's why Andy Reid gets the love that he's gotten.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Well, I don't think it's all the love is like
as if hey, we pulled one hundred people in ninety
five percent said Andy Reid. I think it's just a
small percentage that would say that he is. You brought
up good points that maybe there is some slight issues
with Bill Belichick, but more than often, I think most
people would say it's Bill Belichick. But and this is
(09:34):
like a mega stallion CARDI b size. But But where
you can make the case is if you look at
it from a different angle than just simply the one
dominance that Bill Belichick had with the Patriots. He stayed
with the Patriots, dominated with the Patriots. We don't talk
about what he did with Cleveland. We kind of focus
on the Patriots run with he and Tom Brady. I
(09:55):
think the difference is if you want to make the
case for Andy Reid. Well, shoot, you bring up he
didn't win as Super Bowl. Some could bring up, but
look what he did there though. He gets to all
those NFC championship games, he gets to the super Bowl,
doesn't win it, but gets to the Super Bowl. He
has Donovan McNabb as a Pro Bowl quarterback. Eventually we
get Michael Vick. Michael Vick becomes a comeback Player of
the Year, and he looks like, wow, Michael Vick looked
(10:17):
like this every year. He might be in the Hall
of Fame, one of the better quarterbacks ever again under
Andy Reid. Then he goes to Kansas City and has
dominated there his entire tenure. And if you look at
what he's been able to do over that, he is
one hundred and twelve and thirty six in the regular
season there in the nine years that he was making
the postseason. You look at eleven, I'm sorry, of the
(10:37):
thirteen years. Eleven of the thirteen years he makes a
playoff appearance. Obviously three super Bowl titles. So he's having
a first half of Bill belichick tenure with the Chiefs.
But he made Andy Reid Alex All of a sudden,
we forgot that Alex Smith was a quarterback he gets
under Andy Reid, best football of his career. Patrick Mahomes
third round pick. We don't know, we'll see. Maybe he's good,
(10:59):
maybe he's not. I don't know. Maybe he's just one
of those guys who was a system of the college
in it Bam, Andy Reid, Patrick Gomes great combination. So
I think the argument for him is that everywhere he's gone,
they've been very good. They've gotten to a super Bowl,
won a bunch of super Bowls in Kansas City, has
a chance to win another one. And he made everyone
(11:21):
around him better. Whereas you could say with Bill Belichick, Okay,
was it you? Was it Tom? Maybe it was a
combination of the two. So do I give you full greatness?
And when I didn't see you do it alone? And
I think that would be the case. I believe Bill
Belichick is the greatest coach of all time. But the
case for Andy Reid is that he's been able to
do it a Lebron way. Well, Lebron will never beat
(11:44):
Michael Jordan because Michael Jordan has six straight with the Bulls, right,
that was the system, That's what they did. They did that.
He Phil Jackson Pippin, but Lebron can say, Hey, if
you're trying to make a case, I wanted Cleveland, I
wanted the Lakers, I want a couple of Miami everywhere
I go. I've won. That just shows that I'm you
can say the better player that anywhere I go, any stop,
(12:05):
we're going to win a championship. So I liken the
two to that.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Here's here's the flaw with your argument for Andy Reid
is you can't look at it that way without look
at looking at it that until he got Patrick Mahomes,
did he actually get over the hump and start to win.
So he couldn't win with anybody else despite their success.
And then if you're gonna look at and say.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
You got to finish though, you're saying win the title
because he won.
Speaker 3 (12:33):
No, no, no, it's about winning the title. He couldn't
win the title. You don't go to four straight NFC
championship games. And and if that was the end of
his career, just say that you went to four straight
and you went to the Super Bowl, would you consider
him the greatest coach ever?
Speaker 1 (12:47):
No?
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Absolutely, Okay, it's about winning. And so here's my other
poor point is that you're giving Andy Weid credit for
the offense. Okay, right, saying that that Alex Smith was
good and and Donovan Okay, so Bill Belichick has to
get all that. You could talk about Tom Brady and
the quarterback all you want. When their defense was top five,
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they won super Bowls when it wasn't. They didn't win
Super Bowl the game I'm saying, but that's not only that.
He also went with the New York Football Giants with
two different quarterbacks when he was a defensive coordinator. So
he does have something outside of.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
The couple of years in Cleveland when he got he
met a team, but here when he led a team
without Tom Brady. Previously, pre Tom Brady wasn't doing nothing
in Cleveland. Post Tom Brady didn't do it.
Speaker 4 (13:38):
No, no, no, But but you can't take no.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But you can't take away the top five defenses that helped.
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Because that's because just because.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
But when you say that with Brady, he didn't win
when they beat the same the l A Rams who
averaged thirty five points a game and got three points
in the Super Bowl and Tom Brady had an interception
and a fumble and no touchdown.
Speaker 4 (14:07):
What did you say he would win without Tom Brady.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And the conversation. If it wasn't he wouldn't be in
the conversation if he wasn't a great coach. My point, well,
what I'm saying is that he only wins because of
Tom Brady. I just gave you one example where he
did win, but without Tom Brady. You that was a
technical but you actually didn't. Tom Brady was on the
team's best performance.
Speaker 4 (14:31):
He didn't play well. That's not the reason.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I don't disagree tom Brady was on the team.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
Tom Brady, but credit to when a team averages thirty five.
I got saying that you just talk about Aaron Glenn
and oh, look.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
With a job that he did tom Brady, look at it.
Speaker 4 (14:51):
But he didn't play well.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
He didn't have the argument could be Rady. He doesn't
even make it to the super Bowl without him.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
No, but when you get the greatest defense offenses ever,
you gotta give them maybe make it to the when
they when they beat and came back against Atlanta, they
shut them down in the second half.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
That was bunch of points. Yeah, but you can't.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
If they give up one one touchdown, they lose no
matter what you score.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
The defense is.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
A big part of it that boot ball.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
The argument could be Andy Reid had a bunch of
success with Philadelphia year in year.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Now, he had a he choked, he was known as
a cheat.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
Was he went to the NFC Championships, he went to
a super Bowl, and all we know is post Brady
and pre Brady, Bill Belichick ain't do nothing. That's a
fair point, and it's that's just a fair point if
you're trying to say that Andy Reid, especially if he
wins the three peat. That's kind of the beginning of
this conversation. If he wins the three peat, which will
be four titles, you couldn't.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
No.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The whole point is we're saying, then, what would.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
You say about Andy Reid if they don't win this year,
that he still comes still the greatest coach ever you
with the still coaching?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay, he still got he can mess around with three more?
Is it coach?
Speaker 4 (16:05):
Or he could go the next four years without winning.
That could happen too. Uh.
Speaker 3 (16:09):
Is it fair to say Andy Reid is the greatest
coach of all time? Real Easy eight seven, seven ninety
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Bill Belichick obvious, who was sitting there and saying, hold on,
what about your boy? Eight seven seven ninety nine on
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Speaker 3 (18:02):
Tim and Tacoma, Washington. You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim?
Speaker 1 (18:06):
What's up?
Speaker 9 (18:07):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (18:07):
You going doing great?
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (18:10):
I just I just want to say that.
Speaker 9 (18:12):
You know, sometimes we included we get you know, we
get we is the wrong critario for measuring greatness. I
don't think that anybody has ever made an allegation against, say,
read about shooting. I don't think anybody's made an allegation
against Patrick Mahomes for he's playing balls and and all
(18:38):
the other horseship that's apart me all this other stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
That all right? Thanks Tim, All right, appreciate James into it.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
James and Virginia here in the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:50):
Oh, thank you for taking my call gentlemen, Happy Thursday.
That's what couple. Oh geez man, salute the commanders appreciate it.
I'll tell you what Bill Belichick is certainly the besketball time.
You got six super Bowl rings they went to I
think what was it, nine total super Bowls without a doubt.
But to say that Andy Reid isn't at least in
(19:11):
that conversation and will have the ability to move past him,
it is aci nine man, because the bottom line is,
you got a hundred wins with two franchises. He went
to four straight NFC championships with the Eagles the Super Bowl.
If they win this weekend, that's sixth straight AFC championships
with the Chiefs going for the fourth title. Three p't
(19:32):
at that which no one has ever betten.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
Well, if he gets a three P, then' there's a conversation.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
If they lose, then don't I don't know if it's
as close Andy weied not a young guy. How many
more years I'm saying if they lose this year, if
they win the Super Bowl, of course he's accomplished something
nobody was able to do.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
That's obvious.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
All right, Well, there you have it right there again,
Andy Reid's got to get shot if he can mess
around and make something happen. All right, we got godre
Ishmann coming up in just a moment. Get to talk
some football with him. Looking forward to that obviously, talk
about some of these big matchups happening over the weekend.
But right now it is what's trending with Manci well Anjos.
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It is your boys, Rob Parker, kelvin Washington, Yon couple
on Fox Sports Radio. Our guest now is kadre Ishmael,
Super Bowl champion, co host of the Purple pre and
postgame show on w jay ZTV Baltimore, and of course
Super Bowl champ as well. And Rob. You saw him
as a high school track star, backs.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Right back in Wilkesbury. Unbelievable, Nis a grown man.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (20:45):
What's up?
Speaker 8 (20:46):
Man? Tellers sellers. It's so crazy because because of all
the track exploits and all the things. This past summer,
my brother and I were inducted into the Lazourne County
Hall of Fame, which then I guess becomes a situation
where you could be nominated for the Pennsylvania Sports Hall
of Fame.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
That's right, that's awesome, that's awesome.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Congratulations.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Well, when I was a high school sports writer there,
you guys were kicking everybody's butt anyway, every day.
Speaker 4 (21:15):
It was ridiculous. It was I'm telling you.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
What, Hey, we want to get into obviously some of
the big action happening this weekend. Before we go really
into the games, let's just talk about the season Lamar
Jackson has had. You could maybe even say the run
that Lamar Jackson has had over the last three years,
I mean could possibly be looks like it will be
three MVPs in a row. Did you see this coming
(21:40):
when he first came in the league, And if you didn't,
just talk about the growth of Lamar and where he
has become. Arguably I call him rob. I believe it
is the same with me. Best player in the NFL.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
Yeah, I think the big thing is not everyone saw
it coming, per se. But you also got to give
Ozzie Newsome credit for seeing it coming and recognizing that
he's a quarterback, recognizing that he's a generational player, So
shout out to Ozzie in his last draft and really
just it was remarkable. But with that said, you're also
(22:14):
looking at Lamar each and every year taking it upon
himself to grow into the quarterback that he's become. As
much as we look at some of his earlier exploits
and his own words, he's only gotten better. The game
has slowed down for him. And so that is where
I see Lamar today. It's one thing to get into
(22:34):
the league and you have your talent and you're really
good at what you do, but everybody's going to pick
up on that. They're going to make adjustments. It's the
generational talented players that adapt and because of that adaptation,
you never really can get a beat on the guy,
and therefore they're always dominating. And so this year is
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yet another find that Lamar has elevated his game. He's
in his second year in Todd Monkins offense. He has
given him more control at the line of scrimmage, and
Lamar has not disappointed whatsoever. What forty plus touchdowns, only
four interceptions. You could look at those interceptions and be like, man,
(23:19):
that wasn't even his fault.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
Three of them hit off receivers for sure, right, rightbut
absolutely well.
Speaker 8 (23:26):
I think the bigger picture is Lamar's maturation process has
just become what it is, which is a historic run.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
I'll say this. I mean we argued on this show
about it. I always thought that he was still the MVP.
I wasn't buying into the narrative that was being pushed.
Not that Josh Allen had a bad year or anything,
but the numbers just didn't stack up. And we saw
the All Pro voting, which usually is a precursor to
the MVP. It'd be hard for me to believe that
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people voted for him for All Pro won't vote for
him for MVP. So it looks like he has another one.
Did you ever doubt it at any point because he
was I know they had lost some games, but he
played really well. If the kicker made a couple of
field goals, they might win two or three games. Or
if the guy had a size eleven shoe instead of
a fourteen against the Chiefs, you might have won that
(24:19):
game as well.
Speaker 8 (24:21):
Yeah. No, no, you're absolutely right. I mean you can even
add in if some of the defensive guys could have,
you know, just simply caught the ball. You know, it
would change the entire complexion. I mean literally had the
game against Cleveland in hand and you had three legit
dropped Javis Winston interceptions and you wind up losing a game.
(24:44):
So Lamar, Yeah, from start to finish of the season,
even though some of those games were rocky games, you
couldn't say it was due to the poor performance of Lamarr.
It was more in line of, yes, kicker as well
as a defense.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
Yeah. And that's what makes him so special to me
is just the growth. I mean he came into everybody
questioned his passing and he wasn't the best at it,
and he just continued to get better. So let's go
to this game actually where this is really you know,
you could almost close your eyes and say, man, this
he has a super Bowl feel to it. We're going
up against the Bills. We know that he's two and
one against Josh, but Josh got him in the playoffs
(25:22):
a couple of years a few years back. What do
you expect too, high octane offenses to high octane, multifaceted quarterbacks.
What are you expected in this one? And earlier in
the season. We know that Lamar beat and the Ravens
beat the Bills big time.
Speaker 8 (25:37):
Yeah, they did, and I think again you're going to
see a slug fest. I think Disney want to be
one of those games where one of the Bills defenders
are going to just say, you know what, we're going
to have to set the tone early and they're going
to try to be incredibly physical and just make one
of those big splash, blow up Titan tackles to get
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Bill Mafia to just be like yo, not today, Ravens.
And I think for the Ravens offense, they have to
say to themselves, whether it be Lamar, whether it be
Derrick Henry, but the offensive line, you have to draw
the line in the stand that we're going into the
Lions then and you just straight up hit them in
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the mouth, like just right away, don't show don't flinch
one time, don't show any signs of weakness. Again, this
Ravens ball club historically has gone into the quote unquote
Lions then at different points in times. Heck, I can
even go back to two thousand when the Titans were
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at their zenus and we had to go down to
at that time what Adelphia Coliseum they called it. You
couldn't even hear. I think it's going to be the
same intensity times ten with Bills Mafia. But I believe
that if the Ravens can withstand that first wave of
inner from the Bill's defense, I think that they're built
(27:03):
to wear down that Bills defense. It likes to play
a lot of nickel. It's a matchup that works in
favor for the Ravens. I think it can come to
fruition that the Ravens can get a win.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
And I remember the one when I remember on the
road was the Patriots one with Ray Rice when they
ran all over the Patriots for almost three hundred rushing
yards or I think he had two hundred plus or whatever.
It's incredible. But let's go here. Probably should have asked
you this first, Zay Flowers, what's the deal? It doesn't
sound like he's playing. He missed the practice again, and
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what kind of a blow is that not to have him?
Even though you know they they've been rolling offensively, which
is pretty incredible when you think about it. The last
five games average margin of victory twenty one point two points.
That's what they've been beating people by, the average.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
That's beating think.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
I think the big picture is with they, you know,
He definitely gives you so much with you know, once
again the ball in his hand. He has that extreme
quickness and that ability to make big plays. But I
don't think that they're void of other players making big plays.
There have been times in the year where, yes, you
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talk about that margin of victory, there have been times
where you know they have had a relatively quiet game,
yet the team, the offense as a whole, still did
their things. And so I think that's something that you
take into account. Absolutely going to mis Veay Flowers, but
absolutely you're not going to sit back and think that
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you know they're going to be a pushover by any stretch.
Speaker 4 (28:36):
And here, let me just jump in one more time.
Speaker 3 (28:38):
Here on last year that AFC Championship game against the
Chiefs where the defense shut the Chiefs out in the
second half, Zay Flowers had a big fumble at the
one I mean devastating, and uh, they weren't blown out
of that game. And remember they only did running backs
ran the ball only four times, which is just ridiculous.
(28:59):
I don't know what game plan that was a year ago.
But you have Derek Kennedy, Now I just pick your poison.
What are you going to do with Derrick Henry and
Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 8 (29:11):
Again, you can't even go back to the Steelers matchup
in the wildcard round. There was the beautiful touchdown run
that filed the deal with Derrick Henry and Lamar Jackson.
Literally because of the way that mesh point works, you
didn't know who had the ball. Lamar just did a
fantastic job. Middle linebacker, the safety as well as the
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corner and the outside end. Those four guys were out
of the play. As Derek runs up the field, you
have beautiful blocking by Linderbaum, by Bi Leiley, Mark Andrews,
Bonnie Stanley shutting off the backside, and now it is
just hey, Derrick Henry being untouched for the first what
five six yards? And anyone who's worked there waiting for
(30:00):
that follows football knows once there Henry gets going, he
becomes that juggernaut. King Henry is a tough guy to bring.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Down in less than about forty five seconds. If they
were to win this game, and let's assume they go
for they being the Ravens, they end up facing the Chiefs.
Do you believe this is the year they can get
through and get to the Super Bowl or the Texans.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
I'm sorry, no, no, I agree. I think if it's
the Texans, it'll be great because you're back at the vault.
If it is in fact going to be at Kansadity,
so be it. I mean, that's just providence. I think
both the two thousand and twenty twelve teams, they've had
to go on the road, they've had to face the best.
They've had to face some great quarterbacks. That's okay. I
(30:42):
think this team can do that too and secure their
own legacy as world champions.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
All right, there is kondre Ishman man, what's you all.
Speaker 4 (30:50):
The past day? Thank you man. We appreciate you always, brother,
thank you.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
Yep, no doubt. He and his brother man some burners
right there. You've got to see it, all right. Shekel
City on the way. And also, obviously if you've heard
Bob Youucker has passed and Rob wants to pay tribute
to him and just give a little bit more insight
on his legacy and career. We'll do that here in
just a moment. It is the eye couple, Rod Parker
Kevin Washington on a TV theme song Thursday. Fox Sports Radio.
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Speaker 4 (31:30):
Alex, you are a beast today. My goodness.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
I watch Perry Mason every day and the show has
been off for fifty years.
Speaker 1 (31:40):
You said watched or watched.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I watch every day. I still watch it.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I know you do.
Speaker 4 (31:45):
It's a great show. I mean, it really really is
a great show.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Alex. Write this down for me. You know my beat
maker skills. I might have to sample this one to Alex.
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Speaker 4 (32:20):
I won't say the restrictions.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
You know.
Speaker 3 (32:22):
Perry Mason was set in Los Angeles, so when they
talk about streets and you.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
Know where people live. It's just funny now that I
live here, dude, me.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
And my wife all the time now living here. Oh
that was that film, that movie that TV show us.
It's so hilarious. Once you live here, how you realize geez,
Hollywood dominates. It's either New York in LA. That's like
eighty percent of movies and TV show New York and LA.
That's about it, all right, man, Right now, it's time
for Shekel City.
Speaker 2 (32:52):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
daily dicks against the.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
All right, Shekel City. Last night one and two. We're
now at fourteen and nineteen on the year. Yeah, thanks Lebron,
and yes we are. It's been a rough I was
ruing so shooting me. I was three and oh just yesterday,
I know, one and two, I mean two days ago,
one and two.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Last night. Here we go though, thank you, Teleballex he Tello.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I got the thunder tonight at home hosting the Cavaliers.
I'm gonna take the Thunder minus one and a half points.
I don't know what's the Washington Wizards score. Now I
have the Wizards plus eleven and a half.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
We wanted to know.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I thought the Suns, oh wait a minute, donty down
by twelve, making eleven, they would cover if the game
was over, right now, got eleven and a half. They're
down by eleven. I took them because the Sun's played
last night. So I just had the Wizards, figuring that
they will lose, but not by more than twelve. And
after Portland trail Blazers plus six and a half taking
(34:03):
on the Clippers. Then, wasn't there at debacle last night?
It was ridiculous as poorly as they played, right, Yeah,
I mean, so come on, Portland can't play that bad again.
I mean, they'll lose, can't do it. They'll lose at home.
But plus six and a half, I'll take that. Remember
Portland plus six and a half, the Wizards plus eleven
and a half, and the Thunder minus one and a half.
(34:25):
And remember, Kelvin, I'm not telling you who the bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. That's right, all right.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I have a dream that Portland and Washington and a
couple other teams Charlotte get the acts together.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
My gosh, terriboy, it's called the NBA.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
Hey, we lost a true legend in the game of baseball.
Bob Uker, the long time Milwaukee Brewers broadcaster passed away
at the age of ninety, was nicknamed Mister Baseball. Didn't
have a great playing career at kelvin six years by
the like two hundred or something in his career, nothing
but he will a tremendous broadcaster and an ambassador for baseball.
(35:03):
A couple of things you might people listening might know
him for the movie Major League. They remember that just
a bit outside was one of the famous quotes on
the do we have it here we go.
Speaker 5 (35:13):
Chip of the sixth man, rookie sensation, Ricky Vaughn on
the pitch nowhere you.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
Can close the book on killder.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
Oh, thank god Bonn a juvenile delinquent in the off
season and his major league debut. Vaughn into the windup
in his first offering, Josh, the bit outside and it.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
Wasn't close, as you remember, we heard it hit the ball.
It was not close. Uh. And then the other thing.
And here's two things that are very interesting too.
Speaker 8 (35:39):
You know.
Speaker 3 (35:39):
He appeared on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson, which
was an NBC staple for thirty plus years. Over one
hundred times. Johnny Carson loved him over one hundred. Now
it's a guy from Milwaukee, you know what I mean.
And that's how it became popular nationally. He also had
six Miller Lite national TV commercials where he's sitting up
(36:02):
close at the ball game and is ushered out of
his seat and he always said, oh, I must be
in the front row, and then of course he's sitting
in the bleachers by hisself. And the other one is
he was on Mister Belvidere.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Is that the TV show?
Speaker 3 (36:15):
So he had a fantastic career and fantastic life.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
He's always intriguing to me because here is it was
Vince Scully, God bless it dead, and then Ernie Harwell
and Detroit as you know, and they while Vin Vince
Scully did a bunch of other games and other sports
and from golf to football to this and the other,
like you, er Bob, you could did a bunch of
rent like in movies. And he wasn't like just like
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simply doing that. He got to be a character in
the movies. And he's on the Tonight Show. And I
remember him growing up on those Midder Like commercials saying
about but another thing too, By the way, Hey he
got a home run on Sandy Kochex. I would tell
people you talking about an icebreaker for baseball fans, That'd
be the first thing I leave with. You went on
sand yea and the best picture of all time. A
lot of people say Sandy Kovic, Yeah, I went home.
(37:03):
I went yard on him. Anyway, what y'all doing?
Speaker 3 (37:05):
But you know what I want to say, this is
baseball announcers are the soundtrack to a lot.
Speaker 4 (37:12):
Of people's lives. It's in the background.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
You know that you just mentioned in every city Ernie
Harwell on the radio. When I first came to LA
my first game and I was covering the Reds and
I came to the game, I was stunned how many
people brought.
Speaker 4 (37:28):
Radios to the ballpark.
Speaker 3 (37:31):
Yeah, because they were at the game, but they wanted
to hear Ernie. I mean, Vince Gulling. You know, like
that's how important. Like the biggest jobs are not the
TV job, the for the baseball announcers, you know that,
it's the radio jobs.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
Still to this day, the radio jobs are the.
Speaker 3 (37:49):
Biggest jobs and where people connect because those guys do
every single game.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
And rest in peace, to bob your gay. He got
ninety out of him. You know, he got ninety years
and I tell you, I tell ninety in a variety
of things in his career like that. That's awesome, Jerry
Jones and Dion Oh boy, there's more. We'll tell you.
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