October 23, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin explain discuss how much blame Adam Silver deserves for the bombshell gambling scandal to hit the NBA on Thursday, tell us why they were unimpressed with Cooper Flagg in his NBA debut, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, professional sports bettor and ‘Countdown to Kickoff’ co-host Bill Krackomberger swings by to share his insight on the NBA gambling scandal involving Chauncey Billups, Terry Rozier and Damon Jones.
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So on Thursday, most importantly for me, at least, happy
birthday to my baby Cameron.
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She is seven today.
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Happy birthday you guys got a party going on.
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We yeah, man, you know how it goes.
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We got a whole bunch going on, even bigger party
on Saturday, because god forbid. We have birthdays in the backyard,
some hot dogs and that be it. Nowadays, you gotta
have parties on parties on parties. I feel like a rapper, right,
parties on parties on parties.
Speaker 5 (03:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (03:18):
So uh, you know, house full, it's her birthday, my baby.
She's seven. She's a wonderful spirit, she's great. So we're excited.
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So happy birthday, Cammy Bammy.
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We love you very nice.
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Oh yeah, yeah, I'll yell at her later.
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Absolutely, you'll yell at her do.
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That is Rob G's favorite. Cam loves rob G loves
Cam the most. I love the youngest that yeah, you
love Kars. Yes, yeah, they all love you guys.
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And they got to their uncle Rob. I don't know
sop for me. You be neglecting them.
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I'm not in the mix, you know, like, no, you
know what.
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One time, one time they stuttered and you were like,
I can't get it out all right?
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All right? Enough is enough?
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All right? Whatever?
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Well they got it, spit it out already.
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You know what.
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I'm saying, all right, allright, no, yeah, hey, listen, we
ain't short of things to talk about, are we.
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No, we got a big show, a lot of stuff
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Indeed, what a bombshell today, right this season has just started,
basically a couple of games under the belt. You know,
people are ready to buzz about Wimby and some other
players and what's going on and then all.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Hell breaks loose.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Yeah, to put it in lightly hell hell broke loose.
It's a lot that happened. I'm gonna try to give
you the cliffs Notes version because it is a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But long story short.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Blazers coach Chauncey Billups, heat guard Terry Roseier, and former
NBA guard Damon Jones.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Or a friend of our show. Friend of the show. Yes,
he's been on Kelvin.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
I was gonna text him yesterday and I stopped myself
and I would have been real awkward if I had.
But any event, all three of them were arrested and
are being charged for a series of different allegations quickly.
Chauncey Billups is alleged to have been part of an
illegal poker scheme where they were defrauding people over millions
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of dollars using X ray glasses and rig shuffle machines,
so on and so forth, in addition to being implicated
in a illegal information sharing scheme with regard to the
NBA games, specifically that he was tipping off betters that
players on his team would not be playing because the
team was taking that's number one. Terry Rogier we already
(06:38):
know about it. Prop bets allegedly that he was telling
people know, I'm not going to play this many minutes
this game, so hit the under on all my bets.
That's being alleged with him. And last, but not least,
Damon Jones allegedly not only was he part of the
Chauncey Billups poker scheme to defraud people, he also allegedly
was tipping off betters that Lebron James even though he
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did not work for the Lakers, he was not an
official coach on the Lakers. He was brought in by
Lebron as like a special assistant, helping before games. He
was riding on the team plane, he was staying in
the hotel. He was tipping off betters that Lebron James,
even though he wasn't listed on the injury report, would
not be playing, so bet against the Lakers in this
upcoming game. Again, this is all fluid. These are all
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allegations for now, but bombshell being dropped in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I'm glad you said that everyone is innocent into
a proven guilty, So we start there.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No one's saying anybody's guilty.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
We don't know that's why there's a trial and all
kinds of other stuff that has to go on. Kelvin,
did we just put that up out front? Okay, but
did I'm gonna start here, and I'm gonna start here
because I get it. Everyone's gonna say, these guys are
dumb and are stupid.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right, Oh, you're stupid. You make millions.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You're an NBA player, Chaunton's in the Hall of Fame,
he's an NBA head coach. He made a ton of
money as a player. They were all and all stupid.
I'm gonna lay the blame squarely on your commissioner, Adam Silver,
the NBA, and all the other leagues following behind.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, this is where I'm gonna put the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Blame because they've made it comfortable enough where people felt
like they can do this and they can be.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Involved in it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Because at one time, Kelvin gambling was a no no.
So much so I remember them saying they'll never be
a team in Las Vegas, Right, They'll never be a
team in Las Vegas because they're not gonna do that.
I remember when Major League Baseball told Mickey Mantle and
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Willie Made to get lost Kick Rocks They were greeters
at Atlantic City in front of a casino. Right, fans,
come meet Mickey Mantle. These guys are a long time retired.
They were retired base they weren't even playing. They said,
if you're greeters, we want nothing to do with you.
(09:06):
You can't wear a Major League Baseball uniform, you can't
come to Old Timers Day, nothing to do with the sport.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We know what Pete Baseball did to Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Right, no persada, non grader, your band for life, all
the other stuff. And now that's all changed. And all
the leagues I'm not saying all the leagues we know this.
They're all in bed with the casinos. We've normalized gambling
to the point where people feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
To even do this. We just saw last week.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Did we not talk Kelvin about the colleges, colleges allowing
players to not both bet on or as long as
it's not your game, you can bet on.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And this is why I think we are where we
are is because there is no fear of God from
the league's. The Terry Rogier thing is as bad a
black guy to the NBA as anything. How the hell
did they clear him, who's your investigative team?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They should all be fired.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Adam Silver should come with his hat in his hand
and apologize that this league basically exonerated him and allowed
him to play, and then the FBI snaps handcuffs on
him today. Seriously, how did that happen? You know how
that happened? Because they wanted it to go away. Let
(10:36):
me add it to go away?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And go ahead, Kevin, I'm I can see here all n.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Let me add to that. Not only did they want
it to go away. If you recall, do you remember
when it went away? Do you remember what happened that day?
That's today Malik Beasley's thing came out, So they didn't
want it to have multiple stuff going on at the
same time. So let's kind of scurry and move on
away from one the other one comes out. Let's hurry up,
get away from that one. Oh, we're right in the
(11:01):
middle of what We're right in the middle of the
Steve bamber Kawhi Leonard Clipper thing.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
So the NBA had a lot going on right now.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
And you already know the Johntay Porter stuff that happened
with the you know, the the last year.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So there is a lot when.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
It came to gambling, Tim Donaheede, notwithstanding over the last
ten to fifteen years, and especially now that the NBA
is trying to skate away from. And the challenge with
this is they are in bed with gambling. So they
tell you don't gamble on certain things. But hold on,
let's take a quick break. It's brought to you by DraftKings,
it's brought to you by Price Picks, brought to you
(11:37):
by FanDuel, And so which one is it? Is it
don't gamble? Is it gamble this way? Or if you
are going to gamble, only use our sites. So it
is a convoluted, mixed up thing that is getting ugly,
that is creating a normalcy to kids because it's on appsentence,
looks fun and it looks like something cool to do,
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and you don't have to bet big money. You can
bet a few dollars, but that's not a big problem.
I'm only been a few dollars. And it causes, it
can cause and lead to people becoming becoming problematic. Now
going back to the NBA specific I don't fully agree
with you in that I agree that this is horrible.
You and I have talked about it for a whole
year now, the whole gambling in bed with everybody, then
you're telling them not to gamble. The only challenge I
(12:19):
have with this is to damon Jones taking advantage of
information about Lebron a professional you retired from the game
like that, that's on you being a part of you know,
Gilberterenas and all that stuff happened with Gilbert. Now you
got with stuff it allegedly happened with Chauncey, like being
(12:39):
a part of mob tied casino games and poker nights.
I should say that's on you, Like so, I don't
want to absolve the personal responsibility. I do think the convenience,
the normalcy, the ease has become become all of these leagues,
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and league is in a very peculiar situation now where I.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Think we're gonna get more and more. You and I've
talked about it.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Michael Porter, John Tay Porter's brother, talked about it recently
on a podcast. He said, you know how hard it
is for these young dudes to come in, ain't really
making crazy money? Knowing so and so got a bum
leg and you might want to take the under on
tonight knowing so and so, you know what's the over today?
I'm taking ten threes. You might want to take the
(13:26):
under tonight. I'm only gonna shoot seven. And if you're
a young dude, that is hard to not do. And
the normalcy in which happens they're allowing it in college,
as we talked about, as long as it's on the pros,
this is just all gonna be missed up, mixed up,
and mixed up. Rob and I think we're gonna find
where this becomes an epidemic, where we're gonna look up
ten fifteen years from now and we have an epidemic
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of young people turned adults who have gambling problems that
they never even thought of this becoming an issue for them.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
You have in Cleveland, they have a gambling spot inside
the arena, and it's inside the arena, yet you're telling
players they can't participate.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's normal for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, Yeah, so once you once you cross that, you
can't close it off. You can't tell them everybody around
them can gamble.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's it's in your face.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Everything is sponsored by right, And I'm saying that at
some point all money is not good money because you're
messing with the integrity of the game. That's why forever
these leagues never got in bed with Las Vegas. No,
no events, nothing. We're not having anything in Las Vegas.
(14:45):
The players aren't staying in Las Vegas. Do you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And now all that has been and now all.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Of that has gone, we do want to get you
involved eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox because I
know a lot of people definitely want to chime in
on this after what's happened all day, and most shows
don't want to hear from you, But guess what the
Odd Couple wants to hear from you? And what you
think because this affects you as a fan, What do
(15:14):
you think about this? How much blame does Adam Silver
and the NBA get for this betting scandal or you
with Kelvin is more on just the individuals. I think
this is the league. I think there's a widespread problem.
You just caught a few of them right now, but
I think this is widespread. We'll continue this conversation next
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We got Bill Krackenberger getting ready to join us here
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Robin I eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox taking
reaction to all the allegations and investigations and arrest that
have come down. Chauncey, Billups, Damon Jones, Terry Rozier, and
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around thirty folks have been indicted. A bunch of mafia
families as well. Once you start getting gambinos and on,
it gets real, uh rap, the sex of cars.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So we got all right, let's do it. Paul and
Rhode Island. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Paul?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Come out, my man?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
How you doing doing great?
Speaker 10 (18:10):
This is this is this is getting out out of
control here. I mean, you're gonna talk about the gambling world. Listen,
you know what the NFL might be next. You know
what miss Tackles see, like I called before, it is
even brothers referees. I mean, you know what, these brothers
make a lot of money. Don't tell me they're not
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influenced by these all these uh gambling apps that I mean,
you got hosts all over telling people what's the what
the what the bet?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What not the bet?
Speaker 10 (18:48):
What the influences?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That right, I'm gonna say, Paul, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean it's a part of this is what
I'm talking about about something being normal lies you know
like that, that's where we are, Kelvin. It's not taboo.
It's it's normal for people for sure. And if you
drive up to the arena in Cleveland and there's a
gambling house inside the arena, how in the world this
is bad?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
How is this bad? It's it's I.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Mean, how is it bad? I have Lebron James doing
what is it? Is it prize fix or DraftKings? Yeah,
draft Kings, like you know, and I have all these
I think I want to say, Steph, I mean these guys,
some of the biggest athletes NFL, MLB, all these guys
are doing this stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
So they're making it again.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
It's the same thing we went from a McDonald's commercial
to a prize fix. It doesn't make it taboo, It
doesn't make it feel bad.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, and that and that's the that's the issue. Jola
in Dallas, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What's up, Jola? How are you doing?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
What?
Speaker 11 (19:49):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Rob, I'm on YouTube.
Speaker 11 (19:50):
That's Jucys hitting. Man. Are you the freshest, eldest citizen
I've ever seen?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
My man?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
My man, I just wait to wait till I get
my fresh haircut.
Speaker 11 (19:59):
Tomorrow, right for the holidays. But nah, look, man, the
NBA is much sugar that we call a squeeze penny.
That's crazy. Slee might as well be the w W E.
And the crazy part is it's the second day of
the opening of the NBA and this is just scandals
what they're hitting themselves with. It really puts the blaments
on the league. Look at when but y'allma hooping last night.
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That's not what we're talking.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Nobody want to talk about that, right right?
Speaker 11 (20:24):
You see what I'm saying, And it's crazy the way
that they're letting this just sweep under the table. And
it's the same recurring names. That's the crazy part. What's
his name? In Miami? They got to Dante Porter, he's
up his name and he's in jail.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
And these guys make too much money to be behaving
like this, like how much money do you need for the.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Thanks?
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Joe, let me jump in right, appreciate the call money everybody.
Let me say this, get over the money in w
One of the most gambling is people we know is
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I think he has all the money in the world.
One of the other ones we know about.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
You got Charles Bark details you probably what does he
sayd I lose ten to five to ten million dollars
a year gamble Like people with money, It doesn't mean
all of a sudden, they enjoy the rush, they enjoy
taking your money.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I get all that, well, but that but that's why
there needs to be more of an onus on the
league to make sure because that personality, I agree with you,
is what fuels that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And these players now, I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
People keep associating, no, not that money.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
It's not that some of the most successful people you
know love to gamble.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Steven in Oregon, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
What's up, Steven?
Speaker 12 (21:33):
Hey, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. Yes, sir, Rob,
I couldn't disagree with you more. What happened to us
being accountable for our own actions? Are we not adults?
And should we not know that this is illegal?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So are you.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
Saying that if I do this illegal poker thing, then
I should blame my employer and not mine.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
No, you should not.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But when you are in an environment that is lax
and normal, lodge and stuff. And Steven, my point is,
after Pete Rose and when Baseball threw the book at him,
I want you to name the next guy that got
banned for gambling in baseball because they made it very
clear that the biggest star in the game was sacked
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and banned for life for doing something that messed with
the integrity of the sport. And what I'm saying to
you is the NBA, just like the Rosier where they
wanted to sweep his comp his investigation under.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
How in the world did they clear him to play?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Steven and he had handcuffs today by the FBI. Tell
me why that happened? How in the world did that happen?
Because the NBA wanted to look the other way. That's
my point is that that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 12 (22:51):
Again, we are an adulto.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The NBA to me and Rojier, can you explain that?
How did they clear him? That's my point? Steven, thank you,
no doubt.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Hey, great calls. We appreciate it. Obviously we got a
lot more on this. We'll continue the conversation right now.
We got Bill Krockenberger getting ready to come up here.
In just a moment, Monsielino is going to get you
set on one trending.
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All right, we got Bill.
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Speaker 5 (23:39):
Bill, appreciate you joining me.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
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Speaker 11 (23:43):
All right?
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But Bill, I mean the shockwaves through Vegas today.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean, come on, like seriously, uh, the fbis involved,
current players are in handcuffs.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Was What was your take when you just heard the news?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You know, I heard earlier this morning and I go
on to show downtown at circa in the morning. I
heard about it right away, and I just was kind
of shocked, But I wasn't shocked. I'm shocked by the
stupidity of players that make millions of dollars a year
that would actually risk themselves for such small amounts of money.
(24:39):
But I'm not shocked at like, you know, there was
a recent Major League Baseball pitcher that had a yes
right or he was, you know, first pitch. I mean,
of course, that's really unethical and that's terrible that he
did something like that. But he's making eight hundred thousand
a year. You're talking like guy making twenty five million
a year, four and a half million a year. I
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just can't believe he would do something so stupid like that.
I really can't. And to see it happen, it's such
a sore spot and such a black eye on the industry.
It was definitely done purposely because the basketball season was
starting too. I think that's that's that's a that's a
that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well do you get more attention if you do it
in the offseason?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And then I get it, and you're trying to, you know,
put the hammer down on on this situation and get
people's attention, and they got people's attention. I do want
to ask you and Kevin, I'm sorry, let me just
follow up. Go ahead, just the idea, Bill, Kelvin and
I have said this on the show, like the prop
bets have to stop, because those are the ones to
(25:46):
me that are very easy and very I might not
bet on it, but I could call friends and family
and be like, yo, my over under tonight is seven
three pointers. Trust me, I will not have seven three
pointers tonight, And you guys can load up.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And I'm not have to lend you any money. I
don't have to give you any money, but I can help.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You well to be real blunt. Though I bet NBA,
NFL and even baseball props every day. It's not an
efficient market like an NBA or NFL side is. I know.
I can actually just follow the socials, follow the beat reporters,
and I can get a better grasp on an NBA player,
how they're doing on the sidelines, how they're warming up situationally.
(26:29):
Let me just tell you, even me, with all my connections,
I'm just going to be real blunts. I can get
down maybe I don't know, three, maybe four thousand dollars.
The sportsbooks don't take any big bets on it. I
can walk right to the counter right here where I'm at,
and they're going to take five hundred dollars on an
NBA prop bet. However, if I want to bet on
the Lakers, how much money you got in your bags?
(26:50):
You got two hundred thousand, will take it. So I
really don't know about what they're saying. Like, I don't
know how much.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, somebody that bet twenty thousand dollars, it was a
twenty thousand dollars that was bet on it because you
could spread it out amongst other you know what I mean,
not make it that obvious to believe it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's what they That's what that that's what they said.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It was over every single day. Every single day. Bill
Krackenberger is betting NBA and NFL prop Store in their
respective seasons. I'll tell you right now, I have a
good I have a good amount of places here in
Vegas that take my bets. And I just know what.
They take a maximum bet in these casinos here, and.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Now what is it?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
What is the maximum?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So you can't if if it went you had two
thousand dollars, they wouldn't take it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
No, No, no one's taking two thousand. Westgate and Circles
the biggest too in town here. They're taking a thousand each.
And that's always been the case. It's not like they
now they're only taking a thousand because of the story.
That's what they've been taking always.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Now, so why even have.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It if it's if it's not that big of a money,
why have inhabit. Then if you're telling me that it's
not a lot of money, better on it, and you
could eliminate the prop bets, Bill, can't you?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah? They could you have a ballot? Okay, you know
I did about seven different interviews today. This is why
you guys are geniuses. And I'm not gonna say nothing
better than anyone else earlier, nobody out of the seven,
you're the first guys that said, why not just eliminate process?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm not with those all right, We've said it.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Yeah, Bill, Robin and I talk about this all the
time because the ease in which and now you have kids,
and the access to it, it's almost like a video game.
It's almost fun, right, just oh, I could throw ten
bucks on this. And to me, it's where it becomes
problematic is because it's going it can potentially spread and
because something that's habitual for young people. Let me ask
you though, that I want to go to the other
side of this, the information game. Let's look at it
(28:38):
like politics. You know, it's it's illegal. If I do it,
you do it. But if a politician does some inside trader,
it's just like, oh, they just got inside information.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
How does that work?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
With the information, like David Jones can say, Hey, Lebron
might not play tonight, But like you said, a reporter
might be able to say, like, how does that all
work in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Who you know to listen to? Who you can you can't.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Well, let me just tell you you're talking to someone
that does a show on the weekends. And I interviewed
the head of trading for our sponsor bet MGM. Now
he knows me, he knows I'm a good size better
you know. Let me be blunt. I have fixed figures
in my MGM account. I keep it in there just
for betting. He knows that I bet Max bets on everything.
And I'll just tell you, listen, inside information. I've always
(29:23):
told kids. I've always even told the traders that's kind
of bs. I listen. I am in tune with so
many things. I hate when I hear at the end
of a game that was fixed, that was fixed, that
was fixed. However, today does show there is certain guys
with knowledge, and I was probably proved wrong. But I'll
(29:45):
tell you one thing. I have never ever been told, Hey,
this is inside information, this is gonna wait. That's not
the way we work on analytics. We work on information
that is based on our models, and and you know
it's not based on inside is an information. I don't.
I still don't. Kind of this is an isolated incident, Donnie.
He was an isolated incident. Yes, it does happen, and
(30:08):
I'm not saying it didn't happen in this situation, by
the way, But to drag all these NBA guys for
playing poker and stuff in the game, I mean, there's
poker games all over the country being played with famous
celebrities and famous you know, not only athletes, but celebrities.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
People do they have cameras and it's a fix and
everybody at the tables you're you know, like that that's
a different poker game.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
That that's the issue.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's why I know it is.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I know it is. And and if they are proven
guilty that they were bringing people in h you know,
to lose their money to the wise guys and stuff,
they absolutely deserve to be penalized to the every penalty
of the law. I'm not saying that, but I just
I just think it's a little bit overblown a lot.
I think when you whenever you see a bust, let's say,
you see a bust and they put the OG word,
(30:55):
the organized crime, organized crime. They always say there's fifty
million dollars, Well, maybe fifty millions was being that only
one or two percent was being held. They just kind
of make things and blow them out of proportion. But however,
I my platform is responsible gambling. I don't want kids gambling.
I don't want kids seeing it. Whenever I go to
Yankee Stadium or whatever, I see left field, center field,
(31:18):
right field adds for the big sports books, and I
feel bad for the kids have to go through that
because I went through that. I was gambling at a
young age. I know what it's like, you know, gamble
and get yourself in trouble at a young age. I
don't want the kids to go through any of that
kind of stuff, and I preached that constantly and my socials.
I just interviewed a guy that lost three hundred and
fifty million dollars. I got four million hits on Instagram.
(31:40):
You know, he lost three hundred and fifty million dollars.
He flew in town last week. Didn't interview with me
to show people what gambling? Does? He want a dollar today?
Not a dollar? Erry Watsonaby Yeah, he don't have a
dollar today.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And the thing we all got to remember, does legal
gambling and is illegal?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
This two different ones. And when things are legal and
supposed done the right way, people have a right to
do what's legal but not illegal. And I always want
to make sure we say that and if you do
it right.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
And yeah, within the confidence with law. Yeah, all right,
and Bill that we appreciate you man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I'll say it again. I've been on a lot of
shows today. You guys are sharper than anybody. You really are.
Great job guys, and look forward to talking to these
guys again.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Appreciate inside Bill Man, you really have to siy a
great insight. Appreciate it. Yeah, that have some great some
great knowledge from him. Man, he really broke some stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Of course, rob g is jelly like, oh god, Robb
Hayden I told I wrote all the questions.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well then dagge all right, man, Hey, great stuff right
there for Bill.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
On the way, we're still gonna do Shekel City, still
do Player of the Day, hold on, we'll still.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Kill when you missed. I can't believe we had Bill.
We have bill On.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Yeah. What was his name? Krackenberger?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, and you didn't even address him correctly. I was
shocked by that.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
What did I not say?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Never mind, I'll tell you later, tell me late.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
I'm scared.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Actually, co don't even know if I want to know.
We also got to talk about Cooper. By the way,
basketball did happen yesterday? No, I don't know if the
world do that?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Did not?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
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Speaker 5 (34:58):
We'll be doing cho City.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Yeah, we can't do Shekel City because, oh no, feel
off today.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It doesn't fill off if you're doing legalized gambling and
you play in the league and you're not giving insider information.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Okay, so I.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Don't have nobody here with them.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Don't tell nobody your your swipe finger hurts today.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Don't tell me that I don't want that inside information.
You're right for that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
I don't want that. You was swiping picking that. Oh man,
I thought I got a little carpal tunnel.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Today.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Here we go one and two last night, forty seven
and forty five is my total forty seven and forty five,
still over five hundred. Tonight, I got the Chargers minus three,
go charge us hosting the Minnesota Vikings. I got the
Denver Nuggets plus one and a half at Golden State.
And I got the Pacers plus seven and a half
(35:51):
against OKC coming off of playing opening night. Yeah, Pacers.
You know, I think they got a little pride. So
I'm gonna go with the Pacers to lose close plus
seven and a half, Denver plus one and a half,
and the Chargers minus three.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
And remember Denver's playing the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Oh, Warriors a favorite.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, it's in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Wow Warriors.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes. And remember, I'm not telling.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You what Rogier told you to bet.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I'm telling you what I told you the bet. I'm
telling you, Jones, I'm telling you what I've been damon alleged.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
This is all this is all alleged. Let me be
clear at that this is all alleged. Uh, but yeah,
man's this is this is some wild stuff. Because quickly
we thought we were gonna have more conversations about Winby.
We thought we were gonna have more conversations about Cooper
Cup and his NBA debut where he goes ten of
ten points lords.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
And they're like they led with he had a double double.
He had a horrible game, a door for four for
sixteen or something like that, something like that. You might
be right, but he had a terrible game.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He's the point guard would zero assists, and they put
down that he had a double double.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Really you yeah, you remember I said this When they
were like, Jason kids will over the summer want him
to play point, I said, all right, I don't like
that based off what I saw in summer league.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Dude, to play the point in the league, that takes
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Why put that?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Why throw that monkey wrench into his rookie year when
that's not his position?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Is I'm genuinely confused by that because that's not his
natural feel. He has a good feel for the game,
but not point guard field. That's a whole different level
of feel. That's a whole different level of understanding. Who
I gotta get shots to. I gotta get this guy involved,
controlling tempo. We gotta go fast, no, we gotta go slower.
That's a lot to put on a guy who's eighteen
years old, Rob eighteen. He's not Lebron coming in who
(38:01):
could have run point because he was that's what he does.
He was a shot creator or Luka or something. He
was a forward who played defensive score but defensively. He
looks like he'll be all right athletically and motorwise. Gotta
find that NBA shot. It'll come eventually. But the real
story out of that game was Wimby. Oh my gosh,
he looked incredible. He looked ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
When you make a fake player in the video game
that you know is fake, it was Wimby.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Everybody knows it's Wimby.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Everybody knows it's Winby.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Now.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
If you didn't know, now you know it's Wimby.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
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What up man? A happy TV themes?
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So on Thursday, most importantly for me, at least, happy
birthday to my baby Cameron.
Speaker 5 (03:00):
She is seven today.
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Happy birthday you guys got a party going on.
Speaker 5 (03:05):
We yeah, man, you know how it goes.
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We got a whole bunch going on, even bigger party
on Saturday, because god forbid. We have birthdays in the backyard,
some hot dogs and that be it. Nowadays, you gotta
have parties on parties on parties. I feel like a rapper, right,
parties on parties on parties.
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Yeah.
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So uh, you know, house full, it's her birthday, my baby.
She's seven. She's a wonderful spirit, she's great. So we're excited.
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So happy birthday, Cammy Bammy.
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We love you very nice.
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Oh yeah, yeah, I'll yell at her later.
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Absolutely, you'll yell at her do.
Speaker 7 (03:36):
That is Rob G's favorite. Cam loves rob G loves
Cam the most. I love the youngest that yeah, you
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And they got to their uncle Rob. I don't know
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I'm not in the mix, you know, like, no, you
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One time, one time they stuttered and you were like,
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All right? Enough is enough?
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All right? Whatever?
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You know what.
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I'm saying, all right, allright, no, yeah, hey, listen, we
ain't short of things to talk about, are we.
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No, we got a big show, a lot of stuff
to dive into.
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Uh, let's welcome in the odd couple crew, because we
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Yes, indeed, man, what an eventful day, as you know,
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Some people might need it now the association.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Indeed, what a bombshell today, right this season has just started,
basically a couple of games under the belt. You know,
people are ready to buzz about Wimby and some other
players and what's going on and then all.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Hell breaks loose.
Speaker 8 (05:35):
Yeah, to put it in lightly hell hell broke loose.
It's a lot that happened. I'm gonna try to give
you the cliffs Notes version because it is a lot.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
But long story short.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Blazers coach Chauncey Billups, heat guard Terry Roseier, and former
NBA guard Damon Jones.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Or a friend of our show. Friend of the show. Yes,
he's been on Kelvin.
Speaker 8 (05:53):
I was gonna text him yesterday and I stopped myself
and I would have been real awkward if I had.
But any event, all three of them were arrested and
are being charged for a series of different allegations quickly.
Chauncey Billups is alleged to have been part of an
illegal poker scheme where they were defrauding people over millions
(06:16):
of dollars using X ray glasses and rig shuffle machines,
so on and so forth, in addition to being implicated
in a illegal information sharing scheme with regard to the
NBA games, specifically that he was tipping off betters that
players on his team would not be playing because the
team was taking that's number one. Terry Rogier we already
(06:38):
know about it. Prop bets allegedly that he was telling
people know, I'm not going to play this many minutes
this game, so hit the under on all my bets.
That's being alleged with him. And last, but not least,
Damon Jones allegedly not only was he part of the
Chauncey Billups poker scheme to defraud people, he also allegedly
was tipping off betters that Lebron James even though he
(07:00):
did not work for the Lakers, he was not an
official coach on the Lakers. He was brought in by
Lebron as like a special assistant, helping before games. He
was riding on the team plane, he was staying in
the hotel. He was tipping off betters that Lebron James,
even though he wasn't listed on the injury report, would
not be playing, so bet against the Lakers in this
upcoming game. Again, this is all fluid. These are all
(07:22):
allegations for now, but bombshell being dropped in the NBA.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And I'm glad you said that everyone is innocent into
a proven guilty, So we start there.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
No one's saying anybody's guilty.
Speaker 2 (07:32):
We don't know that's why there's a trial and all
kinds of other stuff that has to go on. Kelvin,
did we just put that up out front? Okay, but
did I'm gonna start here, and I'm gonna start here
because I get it. Everyone's gonna say, these guys are
dumb and are stupid.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Right, Oh, you're stupid. You make millions.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
You're an NBA player, Chaunton's in the Hall of Fame,
he's an NBA head coach. He made a ton of
money as a player. They were all and all stupid.
I'm gonna lay the blame squarely on your commissioner, Adam Silver,
the NBA, and all the other leagues following behind.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
Okay, this is where I'm gonna put the.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Blame because they've made it comfortable enough where people felt
like they can do this and they can be.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Involved in it.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Because at one time, Kelvin gambling was a no no.
So much so I remember them saying they'll never be
a team in Las Vegas, Right, They'll never be a
team in Las Vegas because they're not gonna do that.
I remember when Major League Baseball told Mickey Mantle and
(08:46):
Willie Made to get lost Kick Rocks They were greeters
at Atlantic City in front of a casino. Right, fans,
come meet Mickey Mantle. These guys are a long time retired.
They were retired base they weren't even playing. They said,
if you're greeters, we want nothing to do with you.
(09:06):
You can't wear a Major League Baseball uniform, you can't
come to Old Timers Day, nothing to do with the sport.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
We know what Pete Baseball did to Pete Rose.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Right, no persada, non grader, your band for life, all
the other stuff. And now that's all changed. And all
the leagues I'm not saying all the leagues we know this.
They're all in bed with the casinos. We've normalized gambling
to the point where people feel comfortable.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
To even do this. We just saw last week.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Did we not talk Kelvin about the colleges, colleges allowing
players to not both bet on or as long as
it's not your game, you can bet on.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
And this is why I think we are where we
are is because there is no fear of God from
the league's. The Terry Rogier thing is as bad a
black guy to the NBA as anything. How the hell
did they clear him, who's your investigative team?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
They should all be fired.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
Adam Silver should come with his hat in his hand
and apologize that this league basically exonerated him and allowed
him to play, and then the FBI snaps handcuffs on
him today. Seriously, how did that happen? You know how
that happened? Because they wanted it to go away. Let
(10:36):
me add it to go away?
Speaker 1 (10:37):
And go ahead, Kevin, I'm I can see here all n.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
Let me add to that. Not only did they want
it to go away. If you recall, do you remember
when it went away? Do you remember what happened that day?
That's today Malik Beasley's thing came out, So they didn't
want it to have multiple stuff going on at the
same time. So let's kind of scurry and move on
away from one the other one comes out. Let's hurry up,
get away from that one. Oh, we're right in the
(11:01):
middle of what We're right in the middle of the
Steve bamber Kawhi Leonard Clipper thing.
Speaker 5 (11:06):
So the NBA had a lot going on right now.
Speaker 7 (11:08):
And you already know the Johntay Porter stuff that happened
with the you know, the the last year.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
So there is a lot when.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
It came to gambling, Tim Donaheede, notwithstanding over the last
ten to fifteen years, and especially now that the NBA
is trying to skate away from. And the challenge with
this is they are in bed with gambling. So they
tell you don't gamble on certain things. But hold on,
let's take a quick break. It's brought to you by DraftKings,
it's brought to you by Price Picks, brought to you
(11:37):
by FanDuel, And so which one is it? Is it
don't gamble? Is it gamble this way? Or if you
are going to gamble, only use our sites. So it
is a convoluted, mixed up thing that is getting ugly,
that is creating a normalcy to kids because it's on appsentence,
looks fun and it looks like something cool to do,
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and you don't have to bet big money. You can
bet a few dollars, but that's not a big problem.
I'm only been a few dollars. And it causes, it
can cause and lead to people becoming becoming problematic. Now
going back to the NBA specific I don't fully agree
with you in that I agree that this is horrible.
You and I have talked about it for a whole
year now, the whole gambling in bed with everybody, then
you're telling them not to gamble. The only challenge I
(12:19):
have with this is to damon Jones taking advantage of
information about Lebron a professional you retired from the game
like that, that's on you being a part of you know,
Gilberterenas and all that stuff happened with Gilbert. Now you
got with stuff it allegedly happened with Chauncey, like being
(12:39):
a part of mob tied casino games and poker nights.
I should say that's on you, Like so, I don't
want to absolve the personal responsibility. I do think the convenience,
the normalcy, the ease has become become all of these leagues,
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and league is in a very peculiar situation now where I.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Think we're gonna get more and more. You and I've
talked about it.
Speaker 7 (13:06):
Michael Porter, John Tay Porter's brother, talked about it recently
on a podcast. He said, you know how hard it
is for these young dudes to come in, ain't really
making crazy money? Knowing so and so got a bum
leg and you might want to take the under on
tonight knowing so and so, you know what's the over today?
I'm taking ten threes. You might want to take the
(13:26):
under tonight. I'm only gonna shoot seven. And if you're
a young dude, that is hard to not do. And
the normalcy in which happens they're allowing it in college,
as we talked about, as long as it's on the pros,
this is just all gonna be missed up, mixed up,
and mixed up. Rob and I think we're gonna find
where this becomes an epidemic, where we're gonna look up
ten fifteen years from now and we have an epidemic
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of young people turned adults who have gambling problems that
they never even thought of this becoming an issue for them.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
You have in Cleveland, they have a gambling spot inside
the arena, and it's inside the arena, yet you're telling
players they can't participate.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
It's normal for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
Right, Yeah, so once you once you cross that, you
can't close it off. You can't tell them everybody around
them can gamble.
Speaker 1 (14:20):
It's it's in your face.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
Everything is sponsored by right, And I'm saying that at
some point all money is not good money because you're
messing with the integrity of the game. That's why forever
these leagues never got in bed with Las Vegas. No,
no events, nothing. We're not having anything in Las Vegas.
(14:45):
The players aren't staying in Las Vegas. Do you know
what I'm saying?
Speaker 1 (14:49):
And now all that has been and now all.
Speaker 2 (14:52):
Of that has gone, we do want to get you
involved eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox because I
know a lot of people definitely want to chime in
on this after what's happened all day, and most shows
don't want to hear from you, But guess what the
Odd Couple wants to hear from you? And what you
think because this affects you as a fan, What do
(15:14):
you think about this? How much blame does Adam Silver
and the NBA get for this betting scandal or you
with Kelvin is more on just the individuals. I think
this is the league. I think there's a widespread problem.
You just caught a few of them right now, but
I think this is widespread. We'll continue this conversation next
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in a moment. We'll talk some more of this stuff
that's going down with him. Also countdown, he's of course
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Robin I eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox taking
reaction to all the allegations and investigations and arrest that
have come down. Chauncey, Billups, Damon Jones, Terry Rozier, and
(17:54):
around thirty folks have been indicted. A bunch of mafia
families as well. Once you start getting gambinos and on,
it gets real, uh rap, the sex of cars.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
So we got all right, let's do it. Paul and
Rhode Island. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Paul?
Speaker 10 (18:08):
Come out, my man?
Speaker 1 (18:09):
How you doing doing great?
Speaker 10 (18:10):
This is this is this is getting out out of
control here. I mean, you're gonna talk about the gambling world. Listen,
you know what the NFL might be next. You know
what miss Tackles see, like I called before, it is
even brothers referees. I mean, you know what, these brothers
make a lot of money. Don't tell me they're not
(18:33):
influenced by these all these uh gambling apps that I mean,
you got hosts all over telling people what's the what
the what the bet?
Speaker 3 (18:47):
What not the bet?
Speaker 10 (18:48):
What the influences?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
That right, I'm gonna say, Paul, I appreciate the call.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, I mean it's a part of this is what
I'm talking about about something being normal lies you know
like that, that's where we are, Kelvin. It's not taboo.
It's it's normal for people for sure. And if you
drive up to the arena in Cleveland and there's a
gambling house inside the arena, how in the world this
is bad?
Speaker 1 (19:14):
How is this bad? It's it's I.
Speaker 7 (19:17):
Mean, how is it bad? I have Lebron James doing
what is it? Is it prize fix or DraftKings? Yeah,
draft Kings, like you know, and I have all these
I think I want to say, Steph, I mean these guys,
some of the biggest athletes NFL, MLB, all these guys
are doing this stuff.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
So they're making it again.
Speaker 7 (19:34):
It's the same thing we went from a McDonald's commercial
to a prize fix. It doesn't make it taboo, It
doesn't make it feel bad.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
No, and that and that's the that's the issue. Jola
in Dallas, you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
What's up, Jola? How are you doing?
Speaker 5 (19:49):
What?
Speaker 11 (19:49):
Hey?
Speaker 4 (19:49):
Rob, I'm on YouTube.
Speaker 11 (19:50):
That's Jucys hitting. Man. Are you the freshest, eldest citizen
I've ever seen?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
My man?
Speaker 1 (19:55):
My man, I just wait to wait till I get
my fresh haircut.
Speaker 11 (19:59):
Tomorrow, right for the holidays. But nah, look, man, the
NBA is much sugar that we call a squeeze penny.
That's crazy. Slee might as well be the w W E.
And the crazy part is it's the second day of
the opening of the NBA and this is just scandals
what they're hitting themselves with. It really puts the blaments
on the league. Look at when but y'allma hooping last night.
(20:20):
That's not what we're talking.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
Nobody want to talk about that, right right?
Speaker 11 (20:24):
You see what I'm saying, And it's crazy the way
that they're letting this just sweep under the table. And
it's the same recurring names. That's the crazy part. What's
his name? In Miami? They got to Dante Porter, he's
up his name and he's in jail.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 11 (20:39):
And these guys make too much money to be behaving
like this, like how much money do you need for the.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Thanks?
Speaker 7 (20:46):
Joe, let me jump in right, appreciate the call money everybody.
Let me say this, get over the money in w
One of the most gambling is people we know is
Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5 (20:54):
I think he has all the money in the world.
One of the other ones we know about.
Speaker 7 (20:57):
You got Charles Bark details you probably what does he
sayd I lose ten to five to ten million dollars
a year gamble Like people with money, It doesn't mean
all of a sudden, they enjoy the rush, they enjoy
taking your money.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
I get all that, well, but that but that's why
there needs to be more of an onus on the
league to make sure because that personality, I agree with you,
is what fuels that.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
And these players now, I mean.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
People keep associating, no, not that money.
Speaker 7 (21:24):
It's not that some of the most successful people you
know love to gamble.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Steven in Oregon, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
What's up, Steven?
Speaker 12 (21:33):
Hey, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call. Yes, sir, Rob,
I couldn't disagree with you more. What happened to us
being accountable for our own actions? Are we not adults?
And should we not know that this is illegal?
Speaker 1 (21:47):
So are you.
Speaker 12 (21:47):
Saying that if I do this illegal poker thing, then
I should blame my employer and not mine.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
No, you should not.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
But when you are in an environment that is lax
and normal, lodge and stuff. And Steven, my point is,
after Pete Rose and when Baseball threw the book at him,
I want you to name the next guy that got
banned for gambling in baseball because they made it very
clear that the biggest star in the game was sacked
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and banned for life for doing something that messed with
the integrity of the sport. And what I'm saying to
you is the NBA, just like the Rosier where they
wanted to sweep his comp his investigation under.
Speaker 1 (22:32):
How in the world did they clear him to play?
Speaker 2 (22:35):
Steven and he had handcuffs today by the FBI. Tell
me why that happened? How in the world did that happen?
Because the NBA wanted to look the other way. That's
my point is that that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 12 (22:51):
Again, we are an adulto.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The NBA to me and Rojier, can you explain that?
How did they clear him? That's my point? Steven, thank you,
no doubt.
Speaker 7 (23:07):
Hey, great calls. We appreciate it. Obviously we got a
lot more on this. We'll continue the conversation right now.
We got Bill Krockenberger getting ready to come up here.
In just a moment, Monsielino is going to get you
set on one trending.
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Speaker 5 (23:29):
All right, we got Bill.
Speaker 7 (23:30):
Now let's get to a Bill Krackenberger, of course, Professional
Sports Better co hosts of bet MGM's count Down to
Kickoff on Sundays from ten am to one pm Eastern
Time on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 5 (23:39):
Bill, appreciate you joining me.
Speaker 4 (23:40):
How you doing, Hey, how you guys doing?
Speaker 11 (23:43):
All right?
Speaker 4 (23:43):
Now I'm over actually at Park MGM. And if you
guys ever get a chance to go over to Park MGM,
they have one of the greatest steakhouses in the United
States called the Vets with it be old school Chicago
style steakhouse. It's like walking into the twenties. That's all
I can tell you.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
All Right, Well, oh I love the steaks, so definitely
that's somewhere from me.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
Bill, no doubt about that. On the list. I'll be
in Vegas a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
But Bill, I mean the shockwaves through Vegas today.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
I mean, come on, like seriously, uh, the fbis involved,
current players are in handcuffs.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Was What was your take when you just heard the news?
Speaker 4 (24:19):
You know, I heard earlier this morning and I go
on to show downtown at circa in the morning. I
heard about it right away, and I just was kind
of shocked, But I wasn't shocked. I'm shocked by the
stupidity of players that make millions of dollars a year
that would actually risk themselves for such small amounts of money.
(24:39):
But I'm not shocked at like, you know, there was
a recent Major League Baseball pitcher that had a yes
right or he was, you know, first pitch. I mean,
of course, that's really unethical and that's terrible that he
did something like that. But he's making eight hundred thousand
a year. You're talking like guy making twenty five million
a year, four and a half million a year. I
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just can't believe he would do something so stupid like that.
I really can't. And to see it happen, it's such
a sore spot and such a black eye on the industry.
It was definitely done purposely because the basketball season was
starting too. I think that's that's that's a that's a
that's a no brainer.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well do you get more attention if you do it
in the offseason?
Speaker 2 (25:23):
And then I get it, and you're trying to, you know,
put the hammer down on on this situation and get
people's attention, and they got people's attention. I do want
to ask you and Kevin, I'm sorry, let me just
follow up. Go ahead, just the idea, Bill, Kelvin and
I have said this on the show, like the prop
bets have to stop, because those are the ones to
(25:46):
me that are very easy and very I might not
bet on it, but I could call friends and family
and be like, yo, my over under tonight is seven
three pointers. Trust me, I will not have seven three
pointers tonight, And you guys can load up.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
And I'm not have to lend you any money. I
don't have to give you any money, but I can help.
Speaker 4 (26:06):
You well to be real blunt. Though I bet NBA,
NFL and even baseball props every day. It's not an
efficient market like an NBA or NFL side is. I know.
I can actually just follow the socials, follow the beat reporters,
and I can get a better grasp on an NBA player,
how they're doing on the sidelines, how they're warming up situationally.
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Let me just tell you, even me, with all my connections,
I'm just going to be real blunts. I can get
down maybe I don't know, three, maybe four thousand dollars.
The sportsbooks don't take any big bets on it. I
can walk right to the counter right here where I'm at,
and they're going to take five hundred dollars on an
NBA prop bet. However, if I want to bet on
the Lakers, how much money you got in your bags?
(26:50):
You got two hundred thousand, will take it. So I
really don't know about what they're saying. Like, I don't
know how much.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
Well, somebody that bet twenty thousand dollars, it was a
twenty thousand dollars that was bet on it because you
could spread it out amongst other you know what I mean,
not make it that obvious to believe it.
Speaker 1 (27:08):
That's what they That's what that that's what they said.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
It was over every single day. Every single day. Bill
Krackenberger is betting NBA and NFL prop Store in their
respective seasons. I'll tell you right now, I have a
good I have a good amount of places here in
Vegas that take my bets. And I just know what.
They take a maximum bet in these casinos here, and.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Now what is it?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
What is the maximum?
Speaker 2 (27:27):
So you can't if if it went you had two
thousand dollars, they wouldn't take it.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
No, No, no one's taking two thousand. Westgate and Circles
the biggest too in town here. They're taking a thousand each.
And that's always been the case. It's not like they
now they're only taking a thousand because of the story.
That's what they've been taking always.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Now, so why even have.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
It if it's if it's not that big of a money,
why have inhabit. Then if you're telling me that it's
not a lot of money, better on it, and you
could eliminate the prop bets, Bill, can't you?
Speaker 4 (27:53):
Yeah? They could you have a ballot? Okay, you know
I did about seven different interviews today. This is why
you guys are geniuses. And I'm not gonna say nothing
better than anyone else earlier, nobody out of the seven,
you're the first guys that said, why not just eliminate process?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
I'm not with those all right, We've said it.
Speaker 7 (28:12):
Yeah, Bill, Robin and I talk about this all the
time because the ease in which and now you have kids,
and the access to it, it's almost like a video game.
It's almost fun, right, just oh, I could throw ten
bucks on this. And to me, it's where it becomes
problematic is because it's going it can potentially spread and
because something that's habitual for young people. Let me ask
you though, that I want to go to the other
side of this, the information game. Let's look at it
(28:38):
like politics. You know, it's it's illegal. If I do it,
you do it. But if a politician does some inside trader,
it's just like, oh, they just got inside information.
Speaker 5 (28:47):
How does that work?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
With the information, like David Jones can say, Hey, Lebron
might not play tonight, But like you said, a reporter
might be able to say, like, how does that all
work in Vegas?
Speaker 5 (28:57):
Who you know to listen to? Who you can you can't.
Speaker 4 (28:59):
Well, let me just tell you you're talking to someone
that does a show on the weekends. And I interviewed
the head of trading for our sponsor bet MGM. Now
he knows me, he knows I'm a good size better
you know. Let me be blunt. I have fixed figures
in my MGM account. I keep it in there just
for betting. He knows that I bet Max bets on everything.
And I'll just tell you, listen, inside information. I've always
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told kids. I've always even told the traders that's kind
of bs. I listen. I am in tune with so
many things. I hate when I hear at the end
of a game that was fixed, that was fixed, that
was fixed. However, today does show there is certain guys
with knowledge, and I was probably proved wrong. But I'll
(29:45):
tell you one thing. I have never ever been told, Hey,
this is inside information, this is gonna wait. That's not
the way we work on analytics. We work on information
that is based on our models, and and you know
it's not based on inside is an information. I don't.
I still don't. Kind of this is an isolated incident, Donnie.
He was an isolated incident. Yes, it does happen, and
(30:08):
I'm not saying it didn't happen in this situation, by
the way, But to drag all these NBA guys for
playing poker and stuff in the game, I mean, there's
poker games all over the country being played with famous
celebrities and famous you know, not only athletes, but celebrities.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
People do they have cameras and it's a fix and
everybody at the tables you're you know, like that that's
a different poker game.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
That that's the issue.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's why I know it is.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
I know it is. And and if they are proven
guilty that they were bringing people in h you know,
to lose their money to the wise guys and stuff,
they absolutely deserve to be penalized to the every penalty
of the law. I'm not saying that, but I just
I just think it's a little bit overblown a lot.
I think when you whenever you see a bust, let's say,
you see a bust and they put the OG word,
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the organized crime, organized crime. They always say there's fifty
million dollars, Well, maybe fifty millions was being that only
one or two percent was being held. They just kind
of make things and blow them out of proportion. But however,
I my platform is responsible gambling. I don't want kids gambling.
I don't want kids seeing it. Whenever I go to
Yankee Stadium or whatever, I see left field, center field,
(31:18):
right field adds for the big sports books, and I
feel bad for the kids have to go through that
because I went through that. I was gambling at a
young age. I know what it's like, you know, gamble
and get yourself in trouble at a young age. I
don't want the kids to go through any of that
kind of stuff, and I preached that constantly and my socials.
I just interviewed a guy that lost three hundred and
fifty million dollars. I got four million hits on Instagram.
(31:40):
You know, he lost three hundred and fifty million dollars.
He flew in town last week. Didn't interview with me
to show people what gambling? Does? He want a dollar today?
Not a dollar? Erry Watsonaby Yeah, he don't have a
dollar today.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
That is crazy.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
And the thing we all got to remember, does legal
gambling and is illegal?
Speaker 1 (31:58):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (31:59):
This two different ones. And when things are legal and
supposed done the right way, people have a right to
do what's legal but not illegal. And I always want
to make sure we say that and if you do
it right.
Speaker 7 (32:12):
And yeah, within the confidence with law. Yeah, all right,
and Bill that we appreciate you man, Thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (32:18):
I'll say it again. I've been on a lot of
shows today. You guys are sharper than anybody. You really are.
Great job guys, and look forward to talking to these
guys again.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
Thank you.
Speaker 7 (32:26):
Appreciate inside Bill Man, you really have to siy a
great insight. Appreciate it. Yeah, that have some great some
great knowledge from him. Man, he really broke some stuff.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Of course, rob g is jelly like, oh god, Robb
Hayden I told I wrote all the questions.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well then dagge all right, man, Hey, great stuff right
there for Bill.
Speaker 7 (32:49):
On the way, we're still gonna do Shekel City, still
do Player of the Day, hold on, we'll still.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Kill when you missed. I can't believe we had Bill.
We have bill On.
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Yeah. What was his name? Krackenberger?
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Yeah, and you didn't even address him correctly. I was
shocked by that.
Speaker 5 (33:11):
What did I not say?
Speaker 1 (33:14):
Never mind, I'll tell you later, tell me late.
Speaker 5 (33:16):
I'm scared.
Speaker 7 (33:17):
Actually, co don't even know if I want to know.
We also got to talk about Cooper. By the way,
basketball did happen yesterday? No, I don't know if the
world do that?
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Did not?
Speaker 5 (33:25):
Cooper Flag's debut, will talk about It's the couple Fox
Sports Radio.
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All right, it is the odd couple Fox Sports.
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Radio.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
Yay, that's im name, right, but I'm still riding it.
That's right. And uh now it's time for the tire
rack play of the day.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
I mean, Ya'm a crossing up lively behinding this fact.
Speaker 5 (33:58):
For three.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
Foul schechto and Benyaba stirring the drink that tastes so
good here tonight.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Oh wow, nomulated, don't think right there.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
That's right. First we got this. Everyone knows it's.
Speaker 7 (34:20):
Uh, you're gonna have a whole lot of that because
he's about to be bagnar at mvp uh. Of course,
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way tire buying should be. And now it's time for
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Speaker 3 (34:47):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
daily Dix against the Spread.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
We'll be doing cho City.
Speaker 7 (35:00):
Yeah, we can't do Shekel City because, oh no, feel
off today.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
It doesn't fill off if you're doing legalized gambling and
you play in the league and you're not giving insider information.
Speaker 1 (35:13):
Okay, so I.
Speaker 5 (35:14):
Don't have nobody here with them.
Speaker 7 (35:15):
Don't tell nobody your your swipe finger hurts today.
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Don't tell me that I don't want that inside information.
You're right for that.
Speaker 1 (35:22):
There you go.
Speaker 7 (35:22):
I don't want that. You was swiping picking that. Oh man,
I thought I got a little carpal tunnel.
Speaker 5 (35:26):
Today.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Here we go one and two last night, forty seven
and forty five is my total forty seven and forty five,
still over five hundred. Tonight, I got the Chargers minus three,
go charge us hosting the Minnesota Vikings. I got the
Denver Nuggets plus one and a half at Golden State.
And I got the Pacers plus seven and a half
(35:51):
against OKC coming off of playing opening night. Yeah, Pacers.
You know, I think they got a little pride. So
I'm gonna go with the Pacers to lose close plus
seven and a half, Denver plus one and a half,
and the Chargers minus three.
Speaker 1 (36:07):
And remember Denver's playing the Warriors.
Speaker 5 (36:13):
Oh, Warriors a favorite.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
Yeah, it's in San Francisco.
Speaker 5 (36:18):
Wow Warriors.
Speaker 1 (36:21):
Yes. And remember, I'm not telling.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
You what Rogier told you to bet.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I'm telling you what I told you the bet. I'm
telling you, Jones, I'm telling you what I've been damon alleged.
Speaker 7 (36:40):
This is all this is all alleged. Let me be
clear at that this is all alleged. Uh, but yeah,
man's this is this is some wild stuff. Because quickly
we thought we were gonna have more conversations about Winby.
We thought we were gonna have more conversations about Cooper
Cup and his NBA debut where he goes ten of
ten points lords.
Speaker 1 (36:59):
And they're like they led with he had a double double.
He had a horrible game, a door for four for
sixteen or something like that, something like that. You might
be right, but he had a terrible game.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
He's the point guard would zero assists, and they put
down that he had a double double.
Speaker 7 (37:18):
Really you yeah, you remember I said this When they
were like, Jason kids will over the summer want him
to play point, I said, all right, I don't like
that based off what I saw in summer league.
Speaker 5 (37:27):
Dude, to play the point in the league, that takes
a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:31):
Why put that?
Speaker 2 (37:32):
Why throw that monkey wrench into his rookie year when
that's not his position?
Speaker 1 (37:38):
It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 7 (37:39):
Is I'm genuinely confused by that because that's not his
natural feel. He has a good feel for the game,
but not point guard field. That's a whole different level
of feel. That's a whole different level of understanding. Who
I gotta get shots to. I gotta get this guy involved,
controlling tempo. We gotta go fast, no, we gotta go slower.
That's a lot to put on a guy who's eighteen
years old, Rob eighteen. He's not Lebron coming in who
(38:01):
could have run point because he was that's what he does.
He was a shot creator or Luka or something. He
was a forward who played defensive score but defensively. He
looks like he'll be all right athletically and motorwise. Gotta
find that NBA shot. It'll come eventually. But the real
story out of that game was Wimby. Oh my gosh,
he looked incredible. He looked ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
When you make a fake player in the video game
that you know is fake, it was Wimby.
Speaker 1 (38:28):
Everybody knows it's Wimby.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
Everybody knows it's Winby.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
Now.
Speaker 5 (38:32):
If you didn't know, now you know it's Wimby.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Everyone knows it's whim
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