Rob and Kelvin argue whether Caleb Williams and his camp were correct when they suggested that the NFL do away with the NFL Draft system, tell us why they have such a big problem with the Indianapolis Colts social media jab at Tyreek Hill, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, FOX Sports NFL reporter and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Carmen Vitali swings by to discuss the Williams story, why the Kansas City Chiefs still get so many primetime games, her expectations for Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens this season, and much more!
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to check us out live every weekday from four to
seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
on Foxsports Radio dot Com, or stream us every day
on the iHeartRadio by searching fsrwas give this parties.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You now have.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Full access to this very fine radio program for the
next three hours.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Not two, not three, not four.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's right. Thank you, Lebron.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
No matter how you listen in Fox Sports Radio, Foxsports
Radio dot Com, the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
App, or Serious XM Channel eighty three. Wow, that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Say my name Rob Parker, say his name Kelvin Washington,
and h indeed we are the Odd Couple on a
TV theme song Thursday and Kelvin always remember.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
The Odd Couple was filmed in front of a live audience.
Sweet dooe Beat.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No Doubt TV theme song Thursday.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Man, we got a great show for you today and
we'll play some of your favorites, some of our fathers
coming up for first time me.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Welcome in. My partner.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
He is Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
What up Man Happy TV Themes song Thursday getting closer
and closer to the weekend. But as always, man, we
got a lot to get to on this TV thing.
So on Thursday, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
And if you see me at Yankee Stadium tomorrow, say hello,
what up?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Say? You walk listening to the odd couple?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Well, how would they do that?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's gonna rain out because you know you've been bringing
the rain everywhere you go, everywhere you go.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yeah, yes, so we got Yankees Mets, Mets at Yankees
in the Bronx.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
How loud will the booze be for Juan So so
what do you think?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, they'll be good. They'll be They'll be good in
plenty because they will felt left. They will felt ditched,
you know, like you you you didn't want to be
with us.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And the only crazy thing is true I agree with that,
and they will be loud and they'll boo He of
course is just so so so far with the Mets.
Mets are doing well and the Yankees without Wan Soto
is guess what, still in first place?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
So they have that doesn't help his cause, right, that doesn't.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It's like, okay, the big guy left, you know, got
took all the money across town, but it hasn't changed anything.
So yes, I'll be in the Bronx the boogie down
as we call it in New York tomorrow. Let's welcome
in the YDD Couple crew. We wouldn't be able to
do this fine radio program without him. Rob G, of
course is our producer, Alex is our engineer. Isaac Loewan
(03:10):
Kron is at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated
throughout the program. And of course, oh my god, who Elijah.
It's our social media guru, and uh he is the
best in the business. All the stuff you see on
social to videos, all that stuff. If it wasn't for Elijah,
(03:33):
we wouldn't have we wouldn't have the numbers we have.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That's all I'm saying. I'm not gonna say what the
numbers are.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
But the numbers, the numbers be numbering. Is that what
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
No doubt the math is mathing.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yes, So uh let's go here. Let's start with a
little NFL. Rob G, can you uh set the table,
make sure there's a fork, a knife, a spoon and
a cup.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Are you gonna leave him a tip.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You know on the right side?
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Where does the fork go?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Rob g what's side to the table?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Do you know? On the left?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And where does the knife go? Don't look it up?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Isn't it the left?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Where does the spoon go?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm not gonna lie, Robchie, you just say it with confidence.
We'll both believe because we don't actually know.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
We don't know, but I'm just asking. I think you're
right though. I think the fork and the knife go
on the left. Okay, set the table about Caleb Williams
and the Chicago bit.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
Yes, So this is a big story to drop here
on Thursday morning in the East Coast. Seth Wickersham one
of the great investigative reporters and authors of this generation.
He's gotten deep dives on the Patriots, as you know,
had a big bombshell on the Pete Carroll's and the
Seahawks with Russell Wilson, while his latest one, he's had
a book coming out focusing on the quote American Kings,
(04:51):
A Biography of the Quarterback, focuses on a series of
quarterbacks and their histories and what's going on behind closed doors.
One of the expert excerpts that's getting a lot of
attention today involves Caleb Williams, the franchise quarterback of s
Cargo Bears, according to Wickersham, and the best part is
he's got quotes on the record from both Caleb Williams
(05:12):
and his father. But according to Wickersham, Kayla was so
concerned about being picked by the Bears first overall that
he and his family weighed circumventing the entire NFL draft,
consulting with lawyers to figure out a way around the
least CBA and also included the idea of skipping the
draft altogether and signing with the UFL instead. According to Wickersham,
(05:37):
Caleb really wanted to play for the Minnesota Vikings, didn't
want to play for the Bears, didn't think that that
was the franchise that would get his career in the
right trajectory. And according to Wickersham in this book, one
of the big reasons why they even attempted to do this,
which I didn't, was because Caleb Williams, his dad, Carl,
(05:59):
and everybody else in their camp have a fundamental distaste
for the NFL draft process, the rookie wat scale, so
on and so forth.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
The only thing I want to say Kelvin, I'll let
you go first, as I agree the rookie wage scale
is a sham and the players sold the other players
up the river that I agree with them.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, I mean you can add that to the list
of a couple of things. I can understand the pay
scale Again. It's one of those few things in life
where I thought it was a meritocracy. I thought it was,
you know, capitalistic society, somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
For everybody else's capitalism.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And the players were dumb enough. And I say that
with all seriousness any player. The NBA did it too,
to the rookies and the one year and all that.
Like they like they wore sold this whole idea. It's
not fair that you're going to pay these guys and
play one down.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
If I'm worth it, I'm worth.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It, yes, And if you don't think they're worth it,
don't pay them.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
People get this, well, well, I mean people are drafting
these high school don't draft them. Well, well, I don't
want to pay a rook then he ain't that guy?
Or off from what what did? What did did Dallas Mavericks?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Just do? They said we was him right?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
And what it is the super half that fifty we're
not paying him. What did the Secramental Kings do Marcus
Cousins get on him paying them?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It happens. You don't have to do this. But so
that part of it, I'll say this I completely understand.
So I think the challenge to me is when I
can see why Caleb and his father, and if you
don't know anything about them, they've been at this since
he was a literal kid, if you kind of know
the history of him and his father, they have mapped
this entire thing out. This isn't ah, he just happened
(07:49):
to be good at football and Gi Golli sucks.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
How do we get here?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They have mapped this out professionally, even while he was
in high school, even while he was in college.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
The reason why they go to us, the.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Reason why they stay another year at time, like they
have mapped this thing out literally to the teams, and
the way he's done is nil.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
They have everything measured.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
They don't want certain money, they don't want certain companies,
they want equity, they don't want companies they don't believe in.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
So I had to do.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Some things for them with this LA Times today show
that I do in they are really about this.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Now I go there to say this.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Because I mentioned how into this they are, how orchestrated
this is. I can see why this is then frustrating
if we've been orchestrating this since pee wee football, and
now things are already predestined. And the reason why I
can understand why that will be frustrating Rob is because
it's the only profession where if you're literally the best
at what you do, you don't have a choice or
say in your destiny. And what I mean by that
(08:43):
is if you are coming out of med school and
you're projected to be the best doctor, whether you have
the pick of the litter, what hospital do I want
to work at? If you are coming out of law
school and you have the pick of the litter, or
which law firm do you want to go to? This
is the one time in life profession you're the best
of the best, your Heisman winner and you and this
(09:05):
one team who clearly was bad has landed you and
now your destiny at least part of it is in
their hands. And that I can understand will be frustrating
for someone who is orchestrated and put everything into their
life and career to get to this point where well
I have to go here. What if where you're going
it's not about business and not about the business of winning.
(09:25):
We sometimes forget some teams are a okay making money.
Hey we try to win a little bit, but hey,
we ain't going this far. We're not gonna do all
of this. We're not gonna buy into the system. We're
gonna try to win a little bit. But if it
don't work, we made fifty We made one hundred million
dollars just by being a team in the NFL this year.
And your legacy can also be tied to a bad team.
(09:47):
And you go to a team for five, six, seven,
eight years and they're a team that doesn't want to win,
team that doesn't want to be about resources, and now
we look at you as a less than quarterback.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
You're not that great.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You were okay, or you were med last point, I'll
make two rob the Chicago Bears of one or two
teams in the entire NFL who have what never had
a quarterback who has thrown for over four thousand yards. Right,
so I can see why you'll be worried going into that.
This team has not been great offensively and specifically with quarterbacks.
(10:18):
The other team, you know who that is the Jets,
who have also struggled over the years. And I can
see why a team and a father would be concerned
with that. So I'm not the draft process is the
draft process. It is what it is, but apprehension, concern
and one of them maybe try to do something different.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I can see why the Williams would want to do that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Well, they talk a big game. If they didn't want
to do that, he shouldn't have gone to the draft. Okay,
that's the only way you break that. So I think
it's total BS and Poppy Cup, don't take your name
out of the draft.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Refuse to go.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
If you want to revolt against the draft, that's the
only way you break it. It's a part of the collecting,
bargaining agree. And the other part is which is a
cop out and BS is that you're talking about doctors
and lawyer's I'm the top of my class. I can
go wherever I want. Where's the competition factor? The reason
that the best players are going to the worst teams
(11:14):
is because we don't want to repeat of what we
saw in the fifties and sixties when the Yankees the
Green Bay Packers, the Montreal Canadians, and the Boston Celtics
won every year. That's not what we want, where the
good teams keep getting the good players and nobody.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Else can compete.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
That's why the leagues when some of the great teams
are those eras, they didn't sell out.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Go look at what the attendances were when the Celtics won.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
All those championships. Guess what their attendance went down. People
saw it already. It was no competition. Go look it up.
They didn't sell out every night, and they didn't You
would think winning all those championships it would be.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
A packed house. You need competition.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That's the only reason why I believe in the draft system,
because good players can turn the fortunes around, and that's
what you want in a competitive league. If you're a doctor,
you're not competing against other doctors. If you're a lawyer,
there's no competition. But when you're in the league. Just
like people tried to talk Joe Burrow out of going
(12:17):
to Cincinnati, and guess what he did.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Instead of being a part of the problem, he became.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
A part of the solution and on his talent. Even
though they didn't win the Super Bowl. His talent went
to the next level. And you look at Joe Burrow
differently than other quarterbacks because the Bengals hadn't been able
to get there. They have been zero to seven in
their previous seven playoff games. He shows up in year
two after being hurt in year one, and what did
(12:43):
he do? Takes them to the Super Bowl. That's what
you can get as a young player, and you can't
manipulate going to a good team. Is going to a
good team to go into the Cowboys twelve and three, three,
twelve and twelve and four, five, five, like three years
in a row or whatever they were, and they haven't.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
One of them to do the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They won twelve games, right, The Packers win twelve games
eleven games every year. They haven't been since twenty ten.
The Steelers are a good organization. They haven't gone. So
how do you pick? You can't pick, and you can
try to finagle and figure it out.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's why I think it's bs.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
If they were really serious about this, and I'm not
mad at them, if they really wanted to take the
challenge and break the draft. But the only way you
do that is when the top pick and the top
picks refuse to go along with it. That's how you
get things done. You could talk until you're blue in
the face, but they took the money, and they took
(13:45):
the draft status, and they walked across the stage. So
to me, it's just talk because it can be broken.
But you gotta be willing.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
In order to make real change in the world. You
have to have a sacrifice.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And if people aren't willing to sacrifice, that's why things
stayed the same.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's that simple.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
But I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But I think that what we're reading is simply the
thought process that went into their decisions, and I again
completely can understand why they would consider these things. See
what a lot of what you said is is like
if you're going to the Steelers. I don't think this
was about where the cherry pick where I can go
and specifically, Oh, I want to go to some already
great team, I want to back up Patrick Mahomes or something.
(14:24):
I think this was about where I only team I
don't one of the only things I don't want to
go to that has had a bad history.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Have done about it. If he didn't want to go there,
what could he have done.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean, well, he could have done if he was
in a situation I take the money and that or
like a Kyler Murray, guy who played baseball. You know, uh,
John Elway, I have this other option, I'll go play baseball.
Archie Manning was in there finagling for for pay Eli
so that he wouldn't have to go play for the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I believe it was at that time.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So my yeah, My point is I can see why
they would consider, not that they had to do it,
but why it would be a big deal behind the
scenes of man, I don't want my son to go
somewhere that has been horrible.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think it's bs to just talk about it.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
That's how you become a legend, when you turn other
teams around, not going. Kevin Durank doesn't get the credit
that he deserves because he went to a team that won,
even though he was the finals MVP, right, and he.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Doesn't get the credit.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
So going to a team that's already in place or whatever,
that's not gonna get you what you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
The glory is to go to Chicago.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Don't agree at all. I don't agree at all.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Put me in a stable situation that has shown the
formula to succeed, so we can continue to do that.
If I've had an organization that's been around since like
nineteen oh five and you've never had a quarterback throw
be four thousand yards.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Players that wanted to go to the Chicago Cubs when
they finally won a championship, and what did that have
to do with them? They were good and guess what
they did they won a championship. Or the Red Sox
that went eighty eight years without eighty three years without
winning championship, and guess what those players who showed up did.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
They won.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, come on that. Nobody say you don't have to.
You're not the single person who has to do that.
If I'm going to an organization that has failed and
my legacy is tied to that, I can see why
they will be apprehension. Absolutely, especially when you're the best
at what you do. I completely see that.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And not at all eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It is the odd couple.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And do you agree with Caleb Williams in his camp
does the NFL need to do away with the draft system?
Where the worst teams get the best players. We'll continue
that conversation next with you. It is the Odd Couple
on a TV theme song Thursday right here on Fox
Sports Radio, Stick and Stay America.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
What Happened, What Happened?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Living on the air in since Cincinnaty.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know it's the TV themes on Thursday. You hear
it Fox Sports Radio on the The I Couple, Rob
Parker Kelvin Washington meant to breathe a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Once in a while. Ah Matt w k R.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Nay, there you have it again, Our couple TV things
on Thursday, Robin Kelvin getting witching now. For over forty years,
tire Reck has been helping customers find the right tires
for how, what and where they drive, ship fast and free,
backed by free road hazard protection and convenient installation options
like mobile tire installation, tire reck dot Com The way
(17:52):
tire buying should be. Robin and I talking about a
story that came out about Kayleb Williams and his father
not happy with the draft process, not wanting to be
with the Chicago Bears. Ultimately, obviously we know what happened.
What are your thoughts on the draft process or the
way the Williams wanted to handle it?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Fox Who we got Peter and Honolulu. You're in the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Peter?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Guys? How okay?
Speaker 9 (18:19):
One thing?
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Good morning, A good afternoon. Joe Namas was the first
four thousand yard fashion that's four thousand he did.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I heard it was the.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
First and he was twelve, He was twelve years before
Dan Fouts.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Right, that was in the AFL. He did he threw
for four thousand yards. That is correct.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So the analogy with the doctor and the lawyer don't
work because a lawyer coming out of law school, he
may be coveted, but he's going to do one hundred
hour weeks and he ain't getting the scratch. Same thing
with the doctor. They're going to be doing residency and
they're going to be doing And how many picks have
we had at the top of the NFL draft that
(19:04):
have been absolute busts a whole bunch. Okay, so the
rookie Wade scale is actually in effect because who is
the guy? What was it all?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Oh god, it was going.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
To bask the quarterback Eric Krautch fifty Yeah, up front bonet.
That was the one that that was the one that
that was.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
The I disagree with. I disagree with.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I think that people should have the right to negotiate
their own deal. And if you don't believe in the guy,
don't draft.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
You don't have to pay fifty give him twenty million exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Like and by the way, people bust rob on their
second their second contract, meaning you go get a guy
who's seven year veteran.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
That doesn't mean he lived up to what you expect
them to be.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That happened. That literally happens all the time in sports.
We literally go that was we thought it was a
great trade, end up being terrible. We thought it was
a great free agent signing, ends up being terrible. Uh,
that's just the nature of sports. You don't know who
you're getting. You don't know, so you don't know how.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
They're gonna exactly, and then somebody doesn't perform smart enough
to people get, like you say, their second contract, where
they oh, here's a big free agency and uh.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And they never live up to what we thought they'd be.
Happens all the time every sport.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Who we got next?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Drew in New Jersey, You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
What's up Drew?
Speaker 9 (20:18):
Hey, you guys, I don't have a problem if you
know you're worth. If you don't know your worth, then
you know, you kind of bite yourself a bit. Like
we solved the draft, so it's turned up to you.
And as far as where you end up, if you're
in that elite, you're gonna you're gonna do great wherever
you are. Hayden Manning would have been great wherever he is,
(20:39):
thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
He went to a bad coat team exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If that's the argument, that's on you.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
That's on you.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Hey, Kansas City Chiefs hadn't won a Super Bowl in
fifty years.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
In fifty years, and then Patrick Mahomes showed up.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
I think that's just a weak mindset in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
If you're I totally agree.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I think they are. Yep, I told you that sound good,
y'all sound good. That sounds cute. It were giving you fans,
not facts. It's not facts.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
How long people, I'm asking you the Kansas City Chiefs,
when did.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They had been a well run organization. They didn't have
to win the Super Bowl. They had been a well
run organization.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
When we're not We're not saying that teams have to
be either zero or one hundred. We're saying they have
been a wells are a well organization. Nobody as a
fan I love them. No, No, I'm saying no. No,
I'm not saying no. What I'm saying no. Matthew Stafford
as a fan I loved but he was like, no,
I want to go there.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
They're not great. I want to be a part of
the rebuild.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But what I'm saying is there are absolutely ties to
where you can go to an organization, pick the sport,
and you may not have been able to be the
greatest because there are other factors other than just simply
your talent, especially in football and baseball, where it's a
lot there are more players on the field that determine it.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Basketball, if you're then you.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Probably would have been great anywhere because you that singularly great.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Tita went to the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
The Yankees hadn't won a World Series since nineteen in
seventeen years, seventeen.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Years when he showed up as a rookie. All I'm
saying is.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Did you just bring up the Yankees, Ron Parker?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, but they hadn't won in a long time.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I'm not saying didn't have to win the championship every year.
That's a difficult thing. But can you be competent.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
At that time? They weren't winning, is my point, that's all.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And they did great and that getting all those people
they did and what was that ninety whatever, that was
the early nineties when they got all those talented folks.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
All right, good conversation, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We got what's training now with Isaac lower Kron, got
to get you straight on what's happening, Hey, Ilo.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Rob and Kelvin on a TV themes on Thursday, Thanks
for hanging out with your boy, Joined now by Cam Vitali.
Of course, Fox Sports NFL Report or the Fox Sports
Radio weekend host as well, Carmi v on X go
ahead and holler at her. There get a follow. Uh, Carmen,
how are you going to talk to you again?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah? Hi, guys?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Everything well, can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah? Did we lose you?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And there we go. Okay, it was it was really
staticky there for a second.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
All right, good, we got you there.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You want to put a but another conversation Rob and
I were just having I don't know if you heard it.
We're talking about that story that came out that Kayla
Williams his father, who if you know anything about them,
they have been strategic about this entire career from Pee
wee League to the current day, them not being happy
with the process of the draft, not wanting to go
to the Bears, trying to figure out a way to
get away from that. What are your thoughts on the
(23:49):
draft process and how it's done and why maybe you
could see somebody maybe wanting to change their own could disagree.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Like I do and understand as a competition factor in sports,
and that's why it is a draft system.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Listen. I grew up in Chicago. I grew up a
Big Bears fan, and the one thing that it has
left me with is being incredibly self aware about who
that franchise is. So I understand the concern about going
to a franchise that has never developed a quarterback, never
had a four thousand yard passer. It doesn't have a
(24:25):
good track record with just the timelines that they put
coaches on versus new quarterbacks and first round picks and
important picks of that franchise. So honestly, after reading that
excerpt from sath Bergisham's book, I came away with more
respect for Kayler Williams because at the end of the
day he turned it around and said, you know what, No,
(24:45):
after the pre draft visit, I can help this franchise
and I'm going to go to the Bears, and I listen,
it's all paid off now because all roads have now
led to Ben Johnson. So hopefully this all turns around.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
For that well.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
But that's the whole point of it is that you
can go make your own legacy.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You could do all those.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Things that you just talked about not having a franchise
quarterback since Sid Luckman, I get it. But Joe Burrow
went to Cincinnati. They hadn't won anything, right, they couldn't
win a playoff game. He got them to the Super Bowl.
People told him, don't go to Cincinnati. Mike Brown is cheap.
They don't not run an organization. They practice outside. You
(25:25):
could go on and on and on, and what did
he do. He got them to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, and I think that there's a huge opportunity to
do that. Put you Kayleb Williams in Chicago, and like again,
I get that, listen, his dad being involved in the process.
That's just a new normal at this point with these
guys making money so young. I mean, they're minors when
essentially when they're starting to make money and NAL is
being thrust upon them. So they're going to have parents
(25:51):
that are extremely involved in these processes. But at the
end of the day, the dynamics that Kayler Williams had
to navi, Caleb Williams had to navigate and say, listen,
my only play right now is you know, we're not
going to facilitate a trade. It's probably not going to happen,
and all I'm going to end up doing is pissing
off the city that I'm going to be playing in.
So let's dial it back and I'll figure it out
(26:12):
from there. And I think that that's a really mature
way of looking at things. And I like, you can't
really dog the city of Chicago. The city of Chicago's great,
great city.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Oh yeah, that's probably the best city in America. I
agree with you and that.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't know about that, but it's a great city.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Spoken like a New Yorker. What I'm saying, spok like
a New Yorker. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Well, I'm not going to say Los Angeles where hey,
rob new Yorker, New York or La.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
La all day. Rob G knows it, Rob G, I've
said it a million times. I take it out Okay
in New York.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Yeah, I'm not mad. But go ahead, let me let.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Me let me ask you about the schedule came out.
I guess it's a big deal. Let's take a look
at the schedule. And the Chiefs have all these primetime games.
Do they understand the Chiefs on as dynamic or as
fun to watch as they used to be when Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
First showed up. I don't. I think they're like one
of the worst watches in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
But the thing is, it depends on the competition, right,
and like, you just want good games and the Chiefs
are going to give you good games. You look at
all the one score games that they had to play
in last year. I mean, they were entertaining at the
very least.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Are they dynamic though, is what I'm asking you, Like
they don't throw the ball downfield when the Chiefs when
he first showed up, that was musty TV.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
You don't think that Patrick Mahomes is that dynamic player still,
or that he's not on the watch anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Then we got to agree to diagree, especially with the
tackle problems they had last year and Patrick Mahomes was
trying to get himself out out of trouble and all
of that kind of stuff. I gut, he's not throwing
bombs down the field all the time because his receivers
were hurt. But good lord, Like he's still a fun
player to watch and to watch those games that come
down to the wire, which is virtually all the Chiefs
played in last year. I think that's fun to watch.
(27:52):
I mean, everybody's gonna hate the winners, right, but they
didn't win last year. The Eagles did, so I still
think that the Chiefs are fun to watch, and that
really because of Andy Reid and the playbook that he
deploys and how different it is every year.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Tom, And you ain't got to explain it. He You
are absolutely right, That's what I've been telling this fan.
Let me go to what signing that we had which
almost seemed like absolutely the right thing to do, and
adding to a team that is already great and hopefully
for them, it's getting over humped. That's signing Derek Henry
getting the new deal, twenty five guaranteed, two year, thirty
million dollar deal. What do you make of that? Is
(28:26):
that with just a necessary step and and is he
continue to be a part of them finally maybe getting
over to something and getting to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, I mean I'm pulling for him. I love the Ravens.
And the thing is, I think that the league is
learning now, or that the league is evolving too, because
offense keeps kind of as cyclical as the league is.
There's like an there's a wrinkle in every time a
trend comes back around, if you will. So like we're
seeing a ton of teams prioritize running the ball now.
But it's with the wrinkle that you have a mobile quarterback,
like what happened in Philadelphia this year, where you get
(28:58):
Taekwon Barkley, but you also have Jay and Hurts who's
the mobile quarterback. Same thing for the Ravens. You pay
a guy like Derrick Henry and you also have a
running threat at Lamar Jackson at quarterback. You see what
can happen when you have a really good team, aka
a really good offensive line too, and you have a
really productive offense. You add a true running threat and
(29:19):
one of those just knock it out of the park
running backs like Saquon like Derrick Henry, and your offense
is unstoppable and it's completely it's so incredibly potent, and
there's so many different ways that they can beat you,
which is hard for defenses to figure out how. And
that's I think why we're seeing kind of this running
back renaissance. But I don't think it works everywhere. You
can't just put Derrick Henry behind any old line. He
(29:43):
is going to get you production, sure, and we saw
that in Tennessee. But imagine what happens now, or we
don't have to imagine anymore. We've seen what happens now
if you actually put him on a good team, so
that mar I think teams can get kind of tripped up.
But I am looking forward to seeing how this kind
of shifts things and shifts the focus and our teams
self awared enough to know, Hey, we do have a
good line, we do have a bunch of weapons, we
(30:04):
do have a mobile quarterback. What if we add a
really dynamic running back. What if we add one of
the really big stars, pay him a lot of money
and watch how much that is going to get our
team over the hunt? Again, it was true for the
Philadelphia Eagles. I hope it's true for the Ravens too,
because again, I just I love Lamar Jackson and I
really want him to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I want to get to this.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
We talked about the schedule and all that, and people
are making videos and to release the schedules, and the
Colts did it, and I just wonder who could be
actually mining the store at the Colts where they could
actually have a video and pretend or use images of
(30:45):
Tyreek Kill getting arrested.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Are you shocked?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I'm absolutely shocked that people who were like, forget about
the person who put it together, but the supervisors or
who was looking at that look fit that and thought
that that was cute.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
So I worked for a team for six years that
works with the Sandry Buccaneers. I was part of the
schedule release kind of project every year, and it is
It's a huge deal for digital departments across the league
because like they get to show off their creative muscles
and a lot of times what happens though, is things
get kind of watered down because they have to go
through so many checkpoints. But like it goes up, the
(31:23):
chain of command, goes all the way up to like
the chief brand officer, right and by that point sometimes
those guys don't really know what plays what doesn't, but
it gets really watered down. Now a team that does
it every year and kind of just tose that line
really really well as the Chargers. So there's so many
teams I feel like that want to emulate the Chargers
and the way that they're edgy and the way that
they're funny, and they kind of like mock a lot
(31:46):
of the league. But they get away with it because
it's like it's done in a tasteful manner, It's done
in a really humorous manner. It's really fun. I think
it's really easy to kind of not really understand where
that line is. And I do think that stuff like
the Colts trying to an effort to be edgy, you
just kind of didn't really understand where the line was.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Yeah, that's the hard part. I totally get your point.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And from me or firing, I mean, come on, man, Yeah,
the organization looked bad.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And that is took to Carmen's point, everybody's trying to
be cute and be funny and be witty.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
But and all that, but that is the idea like that.
There's just no place for that. I'm serious to pick
him out of all the players in the NFL and
have him being arrested.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
In this we just know it's way too much to
have happened to two players, to black folks in this
country that didn't use that and play around with that.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
That was just yeah, distasteful. Uh So, Carmon, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
As always, make sure you check her out on the
weekends and I'll be again follow her on Twitter.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Thank you for Jordan's show on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Oh boys laughing.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
She knows what's coming, But she knows what's coming.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Anybody who knows you Rob all right, we got thank
you we got Shecho City and maybe continue this conversation
too with the Tyreek situation that they did online. We'll
have more on that. It's the OCA of Robin Kelvin
on the TV Themes on Thursday. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Man, is this show still going on forty five years later?
My goodness? That Law and Order Season nine and eighty eight.
It's the OCA of Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on the
TV Themes on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Division Just to keep doing the same show over and over.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean they had me for a while.
I'm not gonna lie me and the wife Law and Order.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Uh that way, you're still watching that.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Show, believe. No.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, we had a stretch of SVU where we were
about about a six seven year strets.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
We were all in on Law and Order s view.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
No, I've never seen a show where the main characters,
you know, get social Security on the show.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
They've been on the job so long.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I mean, what wonder the world people still want? What?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
People still love it? Well, yeah, he one of the
couple members for sure. Rob Parker, what what are you kiddy? Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Did we say that?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I'm like the most vibrant forty five year old going,
are you kiddy?
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Now? You're forty five? Now you forty five? All right?
You don't even like girls women forty five? Rob Stocks,
you are faking it is all right.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You can stream this show in all of our Fox
Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and the
new and improved iHeart Radio app. All you gotta do
search Fox Sports Radio and the app to stream is live.
And one of the newest features in the app is
that you can also select Fox Sports Radio is one
of your presets, just like you do the presets on
your radio dial and your car iHeartRadio. Go ahead and
do that. It'll always pop up right at the top
(34:49):
of your screen. It's time out for Shekel see.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
daley dis that's the scrap.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
All right, one and two last night one twenty nine,
one twenty eight one game over five hundred.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Here we are, I say to Denver Nuggets. I know
Jamal Murray, my god.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Hope he plays plus four and a half in Denver,
they force a game seven at OKC. I got Denver
plus four and a half to win the game, so
I'm gonna take the four and a half and I
say they win. Also the Texas Rangers minus one and
a half runs. They are hosting the Houston Astros tonight
in Arlington, and I got the Dodgers minus one and
(35:38):
a half. They are hosting the Athletics in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Humblieve you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
The Athletics who have no home, they just call themselves
the Athletics and the plant in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
They have the best road record in baseball.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Can you believe that the A's they fill at home
on the road. That's unbelieved.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
They have the best road record.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Hey, we don't haven't really have a home yet, so
we might as well feel great in other people's parks.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Always remember Kelvin, I'm not telling you that, bet On.
I'm telling you who I better.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
They're down with opp rob other people's parks right now. Hey,
by the way, ready for new pya?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah you know me. They're telling other people's parks. Ready
for a new job. Let Express employ.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Me professionals help while Express helps people in all industries
fine work. Our sweet spot is logistics roles and Express
never charges job seekers for a feed. Go to expresspros
dot com to check it all out. Getting back to
what we were talking about earlier with Kami Man, just
the way in which the cults man that social media stuff.
(36:41):
It always ends up getting folks in trouble, man, it
always does. They put out that insensitive video. Everybody was
trying to have cool videos for the release of the schedules.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
By the way, Rob g Am, I.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Missing something when putting out the schedule had to become
the cool hit thing.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
I mean, I'm not saying some of them were funny.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The bills was funny because Josh Allen's like, yo, just
you AI, that's what everybody's doing, and they go get
Allen iverson instead of you know, our artificial intelligence.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
It was pretty funny. But when did.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I I miss all these You have to release your
schedule with a cool video.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
It's a recent trend, and I gotta tell you, the
teams that take it the most seriously are the worst.
Teams like Rogers are applauded every have you seen their
schedule release? Well, they're gonna go seven to nine against exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I thought the same thing.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
It's always those teams that got all the energy instead
of like just playing football. It's like the teams that
throw the most T shirts and confetti, they usually gotta
win a championship.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I gotta hide the bad product. We gotta give you
everything else. Girls.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Let's throw all pizzas, let's throw T shirts, Let's drop confetti.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You know what I mean. That's that's how you get people.
Come on, man, win.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
You must win Clippers game recently? Do sound like you've
been to a Clippers game?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
No, I was at a Lakers game.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Are you kidding? And then cont yeah, you know what?
Man looking at this again.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
But I just thought, this is the trouble when you
try there's no real limit with social media, right, You're
just just trying to push the envelope. And I'll give
you a great example of that if you if somehow
a video is posted of an elderly woman, I mean
I'm talking eighties, nineties and she slips and falls or
falls down the stairs ten fifteen years ago, somebody would
(38:21):
be like, hey, man, come on, that's not really funny,
or dang, I hope she's okay. Now all the comments
are who can be the fastest to have the snarkiest comment,
the most intensitive comment, the one that disrespects, you know,
the granty the most.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
And that's just where we are.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So if you're these these social media people who run
these accounts for these teams, man, they're trying to get
as close as they can to being an habitual line stepper,
and you're gonna step over the line and you're gonna
post insensitive stuff like tybrik Hill getting and you know,
are getting pulled over by police when again he got
roughed up and it was funny to him, he said,
(38:56):
keep it up with funny and other people. But we've
seen that go too tragic too many times. Man, We've
seen that in tragically rob too many times. And I
know I have PTSD from getting a bad pulled over
by police, have a bad incident. So it's you know,
it's one of those they thought it was cute. They
had to take it down and apologize. But you don't
have to go that far that just to get a
little cute response.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
You know, I don't you gotta have.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Getting arrested is funny at all. I just I don't
it ruffed up, not just to ull it over.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Its not like he was getting ruffed up is really
the issue with it as well, man.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
So that's one thing we definitely agree on Fox
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcasts. Be sure
to check us out live every weekday from four to
seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern on Fox
Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple
on Foxsports Radio dot Com, or stream us every day
on the iHeartRadio by searching fsrwas give this parties.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (00:33):
You now have.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
Full access to this very fine radio program for the
next three hours.
Speaker 6 (00:42):
Not two, not three, not four.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
That's right. Thank you, Lebron.
Speaker 5 (00:47):
No matter how you listen in Fox Sports Radio, Foxsports
Radio dot Com, the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 3 (00:55):
App, or Serious XM Channel eighty three. Wow, that's right.
Speaker 5 (01:02):
Say my name Rob Parker, say his name Kelvin Washington,
and h indeed we are the Odd Couple on a
TV theme song Thursday and Kelvin always remember.
Speaker 6 (01:22):
The Odd Couple was filmed in front of a live audience.
Sweet dooe Beat.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
No Doubt TV theme song Thursday.
Speaker 5 (01:32):
Man, we got a great show for you today and
we'll play some of your favorites, some of our fathers
coming up for first time me.
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Welcome in. My partner.
Speaker 6 (01:40):
He is Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
What up Man Happy TV Themes song Thursday getting closer
and closer to the weekend. But as always, man, we
got a lot to get to on this TV thing.
So on Thursday, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (01:53):
And if you see me at Yankee Stadium tomorrow, say hello,
what up?
Speaker 3 (01:57):
Say? You walk listening to the odd couple?
Speaker 6 (01:59):
Well, how would they do that?
Speaker 1 (02:00):
It's gonna rain out because you know you've been bringing
the rain everywhere you go, everywhere you go.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yeah, yes, so we got Yankees Mets, Mets at Yankees
in the Bronx.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
How loud will the booze be for Juan So so
what do you think?
Speaker 7 (02:18):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, they'll be good. They'll be They'll be good in
plenty because they will felt left. They will felt ditched,
you know, like you you you didn't want to be
with us.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
And the only crazy thing is true I agree with that,
and they will be loud and they'll boo He of
course is just so so so far with the Mets.
Mets are doing well and the Yankees without Wan Soto
is guess what, still in first place?
Speaker 6 (02:42):
So they have that doesn't help his cause, right, that doesn't.
Speaker 5 (02:45):
It's like, okay, the big guy left, you know, got
took all the money across town, but it hasn't changed anything.
So yes, I'll be in the Bronx the boogie down
as we call it in New York tomorrow. Let's welcome
in the YDD Couple crew. We wouldn't be able to
do this fine radio program without him. Rob G, of
course is our producer, Alex is our engineer. Isaac Loewan
(03:10):
Kron is at the anchor desk. He'll keep us updated
throughout the program. And of course, oh my god, who Elijah.
It's our social media guru, and uh he is the
best in the business. All the stuff you see on
social to videos, all that stuff. If it wasn't for Elijah,
(03:33):
we wouldn't have we wouldn't have the numbers we have.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
That's all I'm saying. I'm not gonna say what the
numbers are.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
But the numbers, the numbers be numbering. Is that what
you're saying.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (03:42):
No doubt the math is mathing.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Yes, So uh let's go here. Let's start with a
little NFL. Rob G, can you uh set the table,
make sure there's a fork, a knife, a spoon and
a cup.
Speaker 6 (03:54):
Are you gonna leave him a tip.
Speaker 3 (03:56):
You know on the right side?
Speaker 6 (03:58):
Where does the fork go?
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Rob g what's side to the table?
Speaker 6 (04:00):
Do you know? On the left?
Speaker 3 (04:02):
And where does the knife go? Don't look it up?
Speaker 6 (04:09):
Isn't it the left?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Where does the spoon go?
Speaker 1 (04:14):
I'm not gonna lie, Robchie, you just say it with confidence.
We'll both believe because we don't actually know.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
We don't know, but I'm just asking. I think you're
right though. I think the fork and the knife go
on the left. Okay, set the table about Caleb Williams
and the Chicago bit.
Speaker 8 (04:29):
Yes, So this is a big story to drop here
on Thursday morning in the East Coast. Seth Wickersham one
of the great investigative reporters and authors of this generation.
He's gotten deep dives on the Patriots, as you know,
had a big bombshell on the Pete Carroll's and the
Seahawks with Russell Wilson, while his latest one, he's had
a book coming out focusing on the quote American Kings,
(04:51):
A Biography of the Quarterback, focuses on a series of
quarterbacks and their histories and what's going on behind closed doors.
One of the expert excerpts that's getting a lot of
attention today involves Caleb Williams, the franchise quarterback of s
Cargo Bears, according to Wickersham, and the best part is
he's got quotes on the record from both Caleb Williams
(05:12):
and his father. But according to Wickersham, Kayla was so
concerned about being picked by the Bears first overall that
he and his family weighed circumventing the entire NFL draft,
consulting with lawyers to figure out a way around the
least CBA and also included the idea of skipping the
draft altogether and signing with the UFL instead. According to Wickersham,
(05:37):
Caleb really wanted to play for the Minnesota Vikings, didn't
want to play for the Bears, didn't think that that
was the franchise that would get his career in the
right trajectory. And according to Wickersham in this book, one
of the big reasons why they even attempted to do this,
which I didn't, was because Caleb Williams, his dad, Carl,
(05:59):
and everybody else in their camp have a fundamental distaste
for the NFL draft process, the rookie wat scale, so
on and so forth.
Speaker 5 (06:09):
The only thing I want to say Kelvin, I'll let
you go first, as I agree the rookie wage scale
is a sham and the players sold the other players
up the river that I agree with them.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Yeah, I mean you can add that to the list
of a couple of things. I can understand the pay
scale Again. It's one of those few things in life
where I thought it was a meritocracy. I thought it was,
you know, capitalistic society, somebody.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
For everybody else's capitalism.
Speaker 6 (06:37):
I agree.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And the players were dumb enough. And I say that
with all seriousness any player. The NBA did it too,
to the rookies and the one year and all that.
Like they like they wore sold this whole idea. It's
not fair that you're going to pay these guys and
play one down.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
If I'm worth it, I'm worth.
Speaker 3 (06:56):
It, yes, And if you don't think they're worth it,
don't pay them.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
People get this, well, well, I mean people are drafting
these high school don't draft them. Well, well, I don't
want to pay a rook then he ain't that guy?
Or off from what what did? What did did Dallas Mavericks?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Just do? They said we was him right?
Speaker 5 (07:15):
And what it is the super half that fifty we're
not paying him. What did the Secramental Kings do Marcus
Cousins get on him paying them?
Speaker 1 (07:27):
It happens. You don't have to do this. But so
that part of it, I'll say this I completely understand.
So I think the challenge to me is when I
can see why Caleb and his father, and if you
don't know anything about them, they've been at this since
he was a literal kid, if you kind of know
the history of him and his father, they have mapped
this entire thing out. This isn't ah, he just happened
(07:49):
to be good at football and Gi Golli sucks.
Speaker 6 (07:51):
How do we get here?
Speaker 1 (07:53):
They have mapped this out professionally, even while he was
in high school, even while he was in college.
Speaker 6 (07:59):
The reason why they go to us, the.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Reason why they stay another year at time, like they
have mapped this thing out literally to the teams, and
the way he's done is nil.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
They have everything measured.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
They don't want certain money, they don't want certain companies,
they want equity, they don't want companies they don't believe in.
Speaker 6 (08:14):
So I had to do.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Some things for them with this LA Times today show
that I do in they are really about this.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
Now I go there to say this.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Because I mentioned how into this they are, how orchestrated
this is. I can see why this is then frustrating
if we've been orchestrating this since pee wee football, and
now things are already predestined. And the reason why I
can understand why that will be frustrating Rob is because
it's the only profession where if you're literally the best
at what you do, you don't have a choice or
say in your destiny. And what I mean by that
(08:43):
is if you are coming out of med school and
you're projected to be the best doctor, whether you have
the pick of the litter, what hospital do I want
to work at? If you are coming out of law
school and you have the pick of the litter, or
which law firm do you want to go to? This
is the one time in life profession you're the best
of the best, your Heisman winner and you and this
(09:05):
one team who clearly was bad has landed you and
now your destiny at least part of it is in
their hands. And that I can understand will be frustrating
for someone who is orchestrated and put everything into their
life and career to get to this point where well
I have to go here. What if where you're going
it's not about business and not about the business of winning.
(09:25):
We sometimes forget some teams are a okay making money.
Hey we try to win a little bit, but hey,
we ain't going this far. We're not gonna do all
of this. We're not gonna buy into the system. We're
gonna try to win a little bit. But if it
don't work, we made fifty We made one hundred million
dollars just by being a team in the NFL this year.
And your legacy can also be tied to a bad team.
(09:47):
And you go to a team for five, six, seven,
eight years and they're a team that doesn't want to win,
team that doesn't want to be about resources, and now
we look at you as a less than quarterback.
Speaker 6 (09:56):
You're not that great.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
You were okay, or you were med last point, I'll
make two rob the Chicago Bears of one or two
teams in the entire NFL who have what never had
a quarterback who has thrown for over four thousand yards. Right,
so I can see why you'll be worried going into that.
This team has not been great offensively and specifically with quarterbacks.
(10:18):
The other team, you know who that is the Jets,
who have also struggled over the years. And I can
see why a team and a father would be concerned
with that. So I'm not the draft process is the
draft process. It is what it is, but apprehension, concern
and one of them maybe try to do something different.
Speaker 6 (10:36):
I can see why the Williams would want to do that.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Well, they talk a big game. If they didn't want
to do that, he shouldn't have gone to the draft. Okay,
that's the only way you break that. So I think
it's total BS and Poppy Cup, don't take your name
out of the draft.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Refuse to go.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
If you want to revolt against the draft, that's the
only way you break it. It's a part of the collecting,
bargaining agree. And the other part is which is a
cop out and BS is that you're talking about doctors
and lawyer's I'm the top of my class. I can
go wherever I want. Where's the competition factor? The reason
that the best players are going to the worst teams
(11:14):
is because we don't want to repeat of what we
saw in the fifties and sixties when the Yankees the
Green Bay Packers, the Montreal Canadians, and the Boston Celtics
won every year. That's not what we want, where the
good teams keep getting the good players and nobody.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Else can compete.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
That's why the leagues when some of the great teams
are those eras, they didn't sell out.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Go look at what the attendances were when the Celtics won.
Speaker 5 (11:40):
All those championships. Guess what their attendance went down. People
saw it already. It was no competition. Go look it up.
They didn't sell out every night, and they didn't You
would think winning all those championships it would be.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
A packed house. You need competition.
Speaker 5 (11:56):
That's the only reason why I believe in the draft system,
because good players can turn the fortunes around, and that's
what you want in a competitive league. If you're a doctor,
you're not competing against other doctors. If you're a lawyer,
there's no competition. But when you're in the league. Just
like people tried to talk Joe Burrow out of going
(12:17):
to Cincinnati, and guess what he did.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
Instead of being a part of the problem, he became.
Speaker 5 (12:22):
A part of the solution and on his talent. Even
though they didn't win the Super Bowl. His talent went
to the next level. And you look at Joe Burrow
differently than other quarterbacks because the Bengals hadn't been able
to get there. They have been zero to seven in
their previous seven playoff games. He shows up in year
two after being hurt in year one, and what did
(12:43):
he do? Takes them to the Super Bowl. That's what
you can get as a young player, and you can't
manipulate going to a good team. Is going to a
good team to go into the Cowboys twelve and three, three,
twelve and twelve and four, five, five, like three years
in a row or whatever they were, and they haven't.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
One of them to do the NFC Championship game.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
They won twelve games, right, The Packers win twelve games
eleven games every year. They haven't been since twenty ten.
The Steelers are a good organization. They haven't gone. So
how do you pick? You can't pick, and you can
try to finagle and figure it out.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
That's why I think it's bs.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
If they were really serious about this, and I'm not
mad at them, if they really wanted to take the
challenge and break the draft. But the only way you
do that is when the top pick and the top
picks refuse to go along with it. That's how you
get things done. You could talk until you're blue in
the face, but they took the money, and they took
(13:45):
the draft status, and they walked across the stage. So
to me, it's just talk because it can be broken.
But you gotta be willing.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
In order to make real change in the world. You
have to have a sacrifice.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
And if people aren't willing to sacrifice, that's why things
stayed the same.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
It's that simple.
Speaker 6 (14:02):
But I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
But I think that what we're reading is simply the
thought process that went into their decisions, and I again
completely can understand why they would consider these things. See
what a lot of what you said is is like
if you're going to the Steelers. I don't think this
was about where the cherry pick where I can go
and specifically, Oh, I want to go to some already
great team, I want to back up Patrick Mahomes or something.
(14:24):
I think this was about where I only team I
don't one of the only things I don't want to
go to that has had a bad history.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
Have done about it. If he didn't want to go there,
what could he have done.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I mean, well, he could have done if he was
in a situation I take the money and that or
like a Kyler Murray, guy who played baseball. You know, uh,
John Elway, I have this other option, I'll go play baseball.
Archie Manning was in there finagling for for pay Eli
so that he wouldn't have to go play for the Chargers.
Speaker 6 (14:55):
I believe it was at that time.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So my yeah, My point is I can see why
they would consider, not that they had to do it,
but why it would be a big deal behind the
scenes of man, I don't want my son to go
somewhere that has been horrible.
Speaker 3 (15:06):
I think it's bs to just talk about it.
Speaker 5 (15:08):
That's how you become a legend, when you turn other
teams around, not going. Kevin Durank doesn't get the credit
that he deserves because he went to a team that won,
even though he was the finals MVP, right, and he.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
Doesn't get the credit.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
So going to a team that's already in place or whatever,
that's not gonna get you what you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
The glory is to go to Chicago.
Speaker 6 (15:30):
Don't agree at all. I don't agree at all.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Put me in a stable situation that has shown the
formula to succeed, so we can continue to do that.
If I've had an organization that's been around since like
nineteen oh five and you've never had a quarterback throw
be four thousand yards.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Players that wanted to go to the Chicago Cubs when
they finally won a championship, and what did that have
to do with them? They were good and guess what
they did they won a championship. Or the Red Sox
that went eighty eight years without eighty three years without
winning championship, and guess what those players who showed up did.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
They won.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
I mean, come on that. Nobody say you don't have to.
You're not the single person who has to do that.
If I'm going to an organization that has failed and
my legacy is tied to that, I can see why
they will be apprehension. Absolutely, especially when you're the best
at what you do. I completely see that.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
And not at all eight seven seven ninety nine on
Fox eight seven seven nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
It is the odd couple.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
And do you agree with Caleb Williams in his camp
does the NFL need to do away with the draft system?
Where the worst teams get the best players. We'll continue
that conversation next with you. It is the Odd Couple
on a TV theme song Thursday right here on Fox
Sports Radio, Stick and Stay America.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 6 (17:00):
What Happened, What Happened?
Speaker 5 (17:01):
Living on the air in since Cincinnaty.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
You know it's the TV themes on Thursday. You hear
it Fox Sports Radio on the The I Couple, Rob
Parker Kelvin Washington meant to breathe a little bit.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Once in a while. Ah Matt w k R.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Nay, there you have it again, Our couple TV things
on Thursday, Robin Kelvin getting witching now. For over forty years,
tire Reck has been helping customers find the right tires
for how, what and where they drive, ship fast and free,
backed by free road hazard protection and convenient installation options
like mobile tire installation, tire reck dot Com The way
(17:52):
tire buying should be. Robin and I talking about a
story that came out about Kayleb Williams and his father
not happy with the draft process, not wanting to be
with the Chicago Bears. Ultimately, obviously we know what happened.
What are your thoughts on the draft process or the
way the Williams wanted to handle it?
Speaker 6 (18:08):
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on.
Speaker 5 (18:10):
Fox Who we got Peter and Honolulu. You're in the
odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Peter?
Speaker 7 (18:17):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 6 (18:18):
Guys? How okay?
Speaker 9 (18:19):
One thing?
Speaker 7 (18:22):
Good morning, A good afternoon. Joe Namas was the first
four thousand yard fashion that's four thousand he did.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
I heard it was the.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
First and he was twelve, He was twelve years before
Dan Fouts.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
Right, that was in the AFL. He did he threw
for four thousand yards. That is correct.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yep.
Speaker 7 (18:44):
So the analogy with the doctor and the lawyer don't
work because a lawyer coming out of law school, he
may be coveted, but he's going to do one hundred
hour weeks and he ain't getting the scratch. Same thing
with the doctor. They're going to be doing residency and
they're going to be doing And how many picks have
we had at the top of the NFL draft that
(19:04):
have been absolute busts a whole bunch. Okay, so the
rookie Wade scale is actually in effect because who is
the guy? What was it all?
Speaker 4 (19:15):
Oh god, it was going.
Speaker 7 (19:16):
To bask the quarterback Eric Krautch fifty Yeah, up front bonet.
That was the one that that was the one that
that was.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
The I disagree with. I disagree with.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
I think that people should have the right to negotiate
their own deal. And if you don't believe in the guy,
don't draft.
Speaker 6 (19:35):
You don't have to pay fifty give him twenty million exactly.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Like and by the way, people bust rob on their
second their second contract, meaning you go get a guy
who's seven year veteran.
Speaker 6 (19:45):
That doesn't mean he lived up to what you expect
them to be.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
That happened. That literally happens all the time in sports.
We literally go that was we thought it was a
great trade, end up being terrible. We thought it was
a great free agent signing, ends up being terrible. Uh,
that's just the nature of sports. You don't know who
you're getting. You don't know, so you don't know how.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
They're gonna exactly, and then somebody doesn't perform smart enough
to people get, like you say, their second contract, where
they oh, here's a big free agency and uh.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
And they never live up to what we thought they'd be.
Happens all the time every sport.
Speaker 6 (20:12):
Who we got next?
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Drew in New Jersey, You're on the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
What's up Drew?
Speaker 9 (20:18):
Hey, you guys, I don't have a problem if you
know you're worth. If you don't know your worth, then
you know, you kind of bite yourself a bit. Like
we solved the draft, so it's turned up to you.
And as far as where you end up, if you're
in that elite, you're gonna you're gonna do great wherever
you are. Hayden Manning would have been great wherever he is,
(20:39):
thank you.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
He went to a bad coat team exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
If that's the argument, that's on you.
Speaker 9 (20:46):
That's on you.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
Hey, Kansas City Chiefs hadn't won a Super Bowl in
fifty years.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
In fifty years, and then Patrick Mahomes showed up.
Speaker 9 (20:55):
I think that's just a weak mindset in my opinion.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
I agree.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
If you're I totally agree.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
I think they are. Yep, I told you that sound good,
y'all sound good. That sounds cute. It were giving you fans,
not facts. It's not facts.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
How long people, I'm asking you the Kansas City Chiefs,
when did.
Speaker 6 (21:14):
They had been a well run organization. They didn't have
to win the Super Bowl. They had been a well
run organization.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
When we're not We're not saying that teams have to
be either zero or one hundred. We're saying they have
been a wells are a well organization. Nobody as a
fan I love them. No, No, I'm saying no. No,
I'm not saying no. What I'm saying no. Matthew Stafford
as a fan I loved but he was like, no,
I want to go there.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
They're not great. I want to be a part of
the rebuild.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
But what I'm saying is there are absolutely ties to
where you can go to an organization, pick the sport,
and you may not have been able to be the
greatest because there are other factors other than just simply
your talent, especially in football and baseball, where it's a
lot there are more players on the field that determine it.
Speaker 6 (21:59):
Basketball, if you're then you.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Probably would have been great anywhere because you that singularly great.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Tita went to the Yankees.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
The Yankees hadn't won a World Series since nineteen in
seventeen years, seventeen.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Years when he showed up as a rookie. All I'm
saying is.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Did you just bring up the Yankees, Ron Parker?
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Yeah, but they hadn't won in a long time.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
I'm not saying didn't have to win the championship every year.
That's a difficult thing. But can you be competent.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
At that time? They weren't winning, is my point, that's all.
Speaker 1 (22:26):
And they did great and that getting all those people
they did and what was that ninety whatever, that was
the early nineties when they got all those talented folks.
Speaker 6 (22:33):
All right, good conversation, appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
We got what's training now with Isaac lower Kron, got
to get you straight on what's happening, Hey, Ilo.
Speaker 2 (22:39):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Rob and Kelvin on a TV themes on Thursday, Thanks
for hanging out with your boy, Joined now by Cam Vitali.
Of course, Fox Sports NFL Report or the Fox Sports
Radio weekend host as well, Carmi v on X go
ahead and holler at her. There get a follow. Uh, Carmen,
how are you going to talk to you again?
Speaker 3 (23:09):
What's happening?
Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah? Hi, guys?
Speaker 6 (23:14):
Everything well, can you hear me?
Speaker 4 (23:19):
Hello?
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah? Did we lose you?
Speaker 6 (23:21):
Hello?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
And there we go. Okay, it was it was really
staticky there for a second.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
All right, good, we got you there.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
You want to put a but another conversation Rob and
I were just having I don't know if you heard it.
We're talking about that story that came out that Kayla
Williams his father, who if you know anything about them,
they have been strategic about this entire career from Pee
wee League to the current day, them not being happy
with the process of the draft, not wanting to go
to the Bears, trying to figure out a way to
get away from that. What are your thoughts on the
(23:49):
draft process and how it's done and why maybe you
could see somebody maybe wanting to change their own could disagree.
Speaker 5 (23:55):
Like I do and understand as a competition factor in sports,
and that's why it is a draft system.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
Listen. I grew up in Chicago. I grew up a
Big Bears fan, and the one thing that it has
left me with is being incredibly self aware about who
that franchise is. So I understand the concern about going
to a franchise that has never developed a quarterback, never
had a four thousand yard passer. It doesn't have a
(24:25):
good track record with just the timelines that they put
coaches on versus new quarterbacks and first round picks and
important picks of that franchise. So honestly, after reading that
excerpt from sath Bergisham's book, I came away with more
respect for Kayler Williams because at the end of the
day he turned it around and said, you know what, No,
(24:45):
after the pre draft visit, I can help this franchise
and I'm going to go to the Bears, and I listen,
it's all paid off now because all roads have now
led to Ben Johnson. So hopefully this all turns around.
Speaker 7 (24:56):
For that well.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
But that's the whole point of it is that you
can go make your own legacy.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
You could do all those.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
Things that you just talked about not having a franchise
quarterback since Sid Luckman, I get it. But Joe Burrow
went to Cincinnati. They hadn't won anything, right, they couldn't
win a playoff game. He got them to the Super Bowl.
People told him, don't go to Cincinnati. Mike Brown is cheap.
They don't not run an organization. They practice outside. You
(25:25):
could go on and on and on, and what did
he do. He got them to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, and I think that there's a huge opportunity to
do that. Put you Kayleb Williams in Chicago, and like again,
I get that, listen, his dad being involved in the process.
That's just a new normal at this point with these
guys making money so young. I mean, they're minors when
essentially when they're starting to make money and NAL is
being thrust upon them. So they're going to have parents
(25:51):
that are extremely involved in these processes. But at the
end of the day, the dynamics that Kayler Williams had
to navi, Caleb Williams had to navigate and say, listen,
my only play right now is you know, we're not
going to facilitate a trade. It's probably not going to happen,
and all I'm going to end up doing is pissing
off the city that I'm going to be playing in.
So let's dial it back and I'll figure it out
(26:12):
from there. And I think that that's a really mature
way of looking at things. And I like, you can't
really dog the city of Chicago. The city of Chicago's great,
great city.
Speaker 6 (26:20):
Oh yeah, that's probably the best city in America. I
agree with you and that.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
I don't know about that, but it's a great city.
Speaker 6 (26:25):
Spoken like a New Yorker. What I'm saying, spok like
a New Yorker. Whatever.
Speaker 5 (26:30):
Well, I'm not going to say Los Angeles where hey,
rob new Yorker, New York or La.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
La all day. Rob G knows it, Rob G, I've
said it a million times. I take it out Okay
in New York.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Yeah, I'm not mad. But go ahead, let me let.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
Me let me ask you about the schedule came out.
I guess it's a big deal. Let's take a look
at the schedule. And the Chiefs have all these primetime games.
Do they understand the Chiefs on as dynamic or as
fun to watch as they used to be when Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
First showed up. I don't. I think they're like one
of the worst watches in the NFL.
Speaker 4 (27:01):
But the thing is, it depends on the competition, right,
and like, you just want good games and the Chiefs
are going to give you good games. You look at
all the one score games that they had to play
in last year. I mean, they were entertaining at the
very least.
Speaker 5 (27:13):
Are they dynamic though, is what I'm asking you, Like
they don't throw the ball downfield when the Chiefs when
he first showed up, that was musty TV.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
You don't think that Patrick Mahomes is that dynamic player still,
or that he's not on the watch anymore.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (27:31):
Then we got to agree to diagree, especially with the
tackle problems they had last year and Patrick Mahomes was
trying to get himself out out of trouble and all
of that kind of stuff. I gut, he's not throwing
bombs down the field all the time because his receivers
were hurt. But good lord, Like he's still a fun
player to watch and to watch those games that come
down to the wire, which is virtually all the Chiefs
played in last year. I think that's fun to watch.
(27:52):
I mean, everybody's gonna hate the winners, right, but they
didn't win last year. The Eagles did, so I still
think that the Chiefs are fun to watch, and that
really because of Andy Reid and the playbook that he
deploys and how different it is every year.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Tom, And you ain't got to explain it. He You
are absolutely right, That's what I've been telling this fan.
Let me go to what signing that we had which
almost seemed like absolutely the right thing to do, and
adding to a team that is already great and hopefully
for them, it's getting over humped. That's signing Derek Henry
getting the new deal, twenty five guaranteed, two year, thirty
million dollar deal. What do you make of that? Is
(28:26):
that with just a necessary step and and is he
continue to be a part of them finally maybe getting
over to something and getting to the super Bowl.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
Yeah, I mean I'm pulling for him. I love the Ravens.
And the thing is, I think that the league is
learning now, or that the league is evolving too, because
offense keeps kind of as cyclical as the league is.
There's like an there's a wrinkle in every time a
trend comes back around, if you will. So like we're
seeing a ton of teams prioritize running the ball now.
But it's with the wrinkle that you have a mobile quarterback,
like what happened in Philadelphia this year, where you get
(28:58):
Taekwon Barkley, but you also have Jay and Hurts who's
the mobile quarterback. Same thing for the Ravens. You pay
a guy like Derrick Henry and you also have a
running threat at Lamar Jackson at quarterback. You see what
can happen when you have a really good team, aka
a really good offensive line too, and you have a
really productive offense. You add a true running threat and
(29:19):
one of those just knock it out of the park
running backs like Saquon like Derrick Henry, and your offense
is unstoppable and it's completely it's so incredibly potent, and
there's so many different ways that they can beat you,
which is hard for defenses to figure out how. And
that's I think why we're seeing kind of this running
back renaissance. But I don't think it works everywhere. You
can't just put Derrick Henry behind any old line. He
(29:43):
is going to get you production, sure, and we saw
that in Tennessee. But imagine what happens now, or we
don't have to imagine anymore. We've seen what happens now
if you actually put him on a good team, so
that mar I think teams can get kind of tripped up.
But I am looking forward to seeing how this kind
of shifts things and shifts the focus and our teams
self awared enough to know, Hey, we do have a
good line, we do have a bunch of weapons, we
(30:04):
do have a mobile quarterback. What if we add a
really dynamic running back. What if we add one of
the really big stars, pay him a lot of money
and watch how much that is going to get our
team over the hunt? Again, it was true for the
Philadelphia Eagles. I hope it's true for the Ravens too,
because again, I just I love Lamar Jackson and I
really want him to win a Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (30:24):
I want to get to this.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
We talked about the schedule and all that, and people
are making videos and to release the schedules, and the
Colts did it, and I just wonder who could be
actually mining the store at the Colts where they could
actually have a video and pretend or use images of
(30:45):
Tyreek Kill getting arrested.
Speaker 6 (30:48):
Are you shocked?
Speaker 5 (30:49):
I'm absolutely shocked that people who were like, forget about
the person who put it together, but the supervisors or
who was looking at that look fit that and thought
that that was cute.
Speaker 4 (31:02):
So I worked for a team for six years that
works with the Sandry Buccaneers. I was part of the
schedule release kind of project every year, and it is
It's a huge deal for digital departments across the league
because like they get to show off their creative muscles
and a lot of times what happens though, is things
get kind of watered down because they have to go
through so many checkpoints. But like it goes up, the
(31:23):
chain of command, goes all the way up to like
the chief brand officer, right and by that point sometimes
those guys don't really know what plays what doesn't, but
it gets really watered down. Now a team that does
it every year and kind of just tose that line
really really well as the Chargers. So there's so many
teams I feel like that want to emulate the Chargers
and the way that they're edgy and the way that
they're funny, and they kind of like mock a lot
(31:46):
of the league. But they get away with it because
it's like it's done in a tasteful manner, It's done
in a really humorous manner. It's really fun. I think
it's really easy to kind of not really understand where
that line is. And I do think that stuff like
the Colts trying to an effort to be edgy, you
just kind of didn't really understand where the line was.
Speaker 6 (32:04):
Yeah, that's the hard part. I totally get your point.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And from me or firing, I mean, come on, man, Yeah,
the organization looked bad.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
And that is took to Carmen's point, everybody's trying to
be cute and be funny and be witty.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
But and all that, but that is the idea like that.
There's just no place for that. I'm serious to pick
him out of all the players in the NFL and
have him being arrested.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
In this we just know it's way too much to
have happened to two players, to black folks in this
country that didn't use that and play around with that.
Speaker 6 (32:34):
That was just yeah, distasteful. Uh So, Carmon, thank you
so much.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
As always, make sure you check her out on the
weekends and I'll be again follow her on Twitter.
Speaker 6 (32:42):
Thank you for Jordan's show on the weekend.
Speaker 4 (32:44):
Oh boys laughing.
Speaker 6 (32:49):
She knows what's coming, But she knows what's coming.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Anybody who knows you Rob all right, we got thank
you we got Shecho City and maybe continue this conversation
too with the Tyreek situation that they did online. We'll
have more on that. It's the OCA of Robin Kelvin
on the TV Themes on Thursday. Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (33:08):
Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in
the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio
dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to
listen live.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Man, is this show still going on forty five years later?
My goodness? That Law and Order Season nine and eighty eight.
It's the OCA of Rob Parker Kelvin Washington on the
TV Themes on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Division Just to keep doing the same show over and over.
Speaker 6 (33:39):
Yeah, I mean, I mean they had me for a while.
I'm not gonna lie me and the wife Law and Order.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Uh that way, you're still watching that.
Speaker 6 (33:45):
Show, believe. No.
Speaker 1 (33:46):
No, we had a stretch of SVU where we were
about about a six seven year strets.
Speaker 6 (33:50):
We were all in on Law and Order s view.
Speaker 5 (33:51):
No, I've never seen a show where the main characters,
you know, get social Security on the show.
Speaker 3 (33:58):
They've been on the job so long.
Speaker 6 (34:00):
I mean, what wonder the world people still want? What?
Speaker 1 (34:04):
People still love it? Well, yeah, he one of the
couple members for sure. Rob Parker, what what are you kiddy? Oh?
Speaker 6 (34:12):
Did we say that?
Speaker 5 (34:14):
I'm like the most vibrant forty five year old going,
are you kiddy?
Speaker 6 (34:19):
Now? You're forty five? Now you forty five? All right?
You don't even like girls women forty five? Rob Stocks,
you are faking it is all right.
Speaker 1 (34:28):
You can stream this show in all of our Fox
Sports Radio shows live twenty four to seven and the
new and improved iHeart Radio app. All you gotta do
search Fox Sports Radio and the app to stream is live.
And one of the newest features in the app is
that you can also select Fox Sports Radio is one
of your presets, just like you do the presets on
your radio dial and your car iHeartRadio. Go ahead and
do that. It'll always pop up right at the top
(34:49):
of your screen. It's time out for Shekel see.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
daley dis that's the scrap.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
All right, one and two last night one twenty nine,
one twenty eight one game over five hundred.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
Here we are, I say to Denver Nuggets. I know
Jamal Murray, my god.
Speaker 5 (35:16):
Hope he plays plus four and a half in Denver,
they force a game seven at OKC. I got Denver
plus four and a half to win the game, so
I'm gonna take the four and a half and I
say they win. Also the Texas Rangers minus one and
a half runs. They are hosting the Houston Astros tonight
in Arlington, and I got the Dodgers minus one and
(35:38):
a half. They are hosting the Athletics in Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
Humblieve you ready for this?
Speaker 5 (35:44):
The Athletics who have no home, they just call themselves
the Athletics and the plant in Sacramento.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
They have the best road record in baseball.
Speaker 6 (35:52):
Can you believe that the A's they fill at home
on the road. That's unbelieved.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
They have the best road record.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Hey, we don't haven't really have a home yet, so
we might as well feel great in other people's parks.
Speaker 5 (36:04):
Always remember Kelvin, I'm not telling you that, bet On.
I'm telling you who I better.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
They're down with opp rob other people's parks right now. Hey,
by the way, ready for new pya?
Speaker 6 (36:16):
Yeah you know me. They're telling other people's parks. Ready
for a new job. Let Express employ.
Speaker 1 (36:20):
Me professionals help while Express helps people in all industries
fine work. Our sweet spot is logistics roles and Express
never charges job seekers for a feed. Go to expresspros
dot com to check it all out. Getting back to
what we were talking about earlier with Kami Man, just
the way in which the cults man that social media stuff.
(36:41):
It always ends up getting folks in trouble, man, it
always does. They put out that insensitive video. Everybody was
trying to have cool videos for the release of the schedules.
Speaker 6 (36:50):
By the way, Rob g Am, I.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
Missing something when putting out the schedule had to become
the cool hit thing.
Speaker 6 (36:56):
I mean, I'm not saying some of them were funny.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
The bills was funny because Josh Allen's like, yo, just
you AI, that's what everybody's doing, and they go get
Allen iverson instead of you know, our artificial intelligence.
Speaker 6 (37:05):
It was pretty funny. But when did.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
I I miss all these You have to release your
schedule with a cool video.
Speaker 4 (37:11):
Uh.
Speaker 8 (37:12):
It's a recent trend, and I gotta tell you, the
teams that take it the most seriously are the worst.
Teams like Rogers are applauded every have you seen their
schedule release? Well, they're gonna go seven to nine against exactly.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
I thought the same thing.
Speaker 5 (37:25):
It's always those teams that got all the energy instead
of like just playing football. It's like the teams that
throw the most T shirts and confetti, they usually gotta
win a championship.
Speaker 1 (37:37):
I gotta hide the bad product. We gotta give you
everything else. Girls.
Speaker 5 (37:41):
Let's throw all pizzas, let's throw T shirts, Let's drop confetti.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
You know what I mean. That's that's how you get people.
Come on, man, win.
Speaker 6 (37:50):
You must win Clippers game recently? Do sound like you've
been to a Clippers game?
Speaker 3 (37:54):
No, I was at a Lakers game.
Speaker 6 (37:55):
Are you kidding? And then cont yeah, you know what?
Man looking at this again.
Speaker 1 (38:01):
But I just thought, this is the trouble when you
try there's no real limit with social media, right, You're
just just trying to push the envelope. And I'll give
you a great example of that if you if somehow
a video is posted of an elderly woman, I mean
I'm talking eighties, nineties and she slips and falls or
falls down the stairs ten fifteen years ago, somebody would
(38:21):
be like, hey, man, come on, that's not really funny,
or dang, I hope she's okay. Now all the comments
are who can be the fastest to have the snarkiest comment,
the most intensitive comment, the one that disrespects, you know,
the granty the most.
Speaker 6 (38:33):
And that's just where we are.
Speaker 1 (38:35):
So if you're these these social media people who run
these accounts for these teams, man, they're trying to get
as close as they can to being an habitual line stepper,
and you're gonna step over the line and you're gonna
post insensitive stuff like tybrik Hill getting and you know,
are getting pulled over by police when again he got
roughed up and it was funny to him, he said,
(38:56):
keep it up with funny and other people. But we've
seen that go too tragic too many times. Man, We've
seen that in tragically rob too many times. And I
know I have PTSD from getting a bad pulled over
by police, have a bad incident. So it's you know,
it's one of those they thought it was cute. They
had to take it down and apologize. But you don't
have to go that far that just to get a
little cute response.
Speaker 6 (39:17):
You know, I don't you gotta have.
Speaker 5 (39:18):
Getting arrested is funny at all. I just I don't
it ruffed up, not just to ull it over.
Speaker 1 (39:22):
Its not like he was getting ruffed up is really
the issue with it as well, man.
Speaker 6 (39:26):
So that's one thing we definitely agree on Fox
Hosts And Creators
kelvin washington
Rob Parker
Popular Podcasts
Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang
Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com