January 3, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin tell us why Charles Barkley’s criticisms of JJ Redick over the role Inside the NBA has played in the league’s dwindling television ratings were spot on, explain why the Heat are unlikely to trade Butler ahead of the deadline and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, FOX Sports Radio NBA insider Marc Stein swings by to discuss Miami’s decision to suspend Butler, the likelihood that Playoff Jimmy actually gets traded and more!
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Slaughter, slaughter slow? I felt real, I know, and you
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Speaker 2 (02:43):
Look at your Rob Parker. Continue, No, but only up
one now right? I need baby oil. No, I'm still rolling.
Hold on. I had I had a great week, didn't I?
Rob G? Yeah, and you're not up. I shouldn't be up.
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Stop complaining. All right, let me welcome in my co host,
my partner in crime.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Don't you're gonna say my complaining co host? Yeah, there
you go. His name is Kelvin Washington. How are you.
I'm feeling good.
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Speaker 1 (04:28):
Feel good, though, man, feel good, finishing the week strong,
our first week of twenty twenty five, hopefully.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I feel weird, still zombie, laying. I feel like everybody's
saying that it's everyone's lost.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know what it feels like. It feels weird.
But if you had more of a traditional nine to five.
Would you feel different? You know what I mean, like
I had to be at the office at eight thirty
nine and then.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You know, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It just feels weird, like the whole holiday you didn't teach, right,
you're off too, Yeah, I'm off until the thirteenth, so
that might have playing roll into it as well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, we're you just Joe, got another eight nine days.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Before you'll probably you'll be back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
once I'm back to school. In allrmal let's start here.
And uh, if you were watching Inside the NBA last
night or on social media, you could have saw it
or whatever because it was buzzing like crazy. But Charles
Barkley finally got a chance to address you. Remember the
(05:24):
JJ Reddick we comments that's right where he basically blamed
inside the NBA and stuff for the reason that the
ratings are down, which is just total malarkey, nonsense, boulder dash,
poppy cock, whatever word you want to use. And I thought,
I think JJ Reddick is the biggest hypocrite going okay,
(05:44):
because when he was on ESPN, all he did was
beat down the NBA, told us about all the plumbers
and butchers and whatnot who played and disrespected the earlier
era of the NBA, So he's no better than anybody else.
And then he wants to get on his soapbox and
say the weizing people on, well you ever nobody badaging
(06:05):
the product though, No, no, that's why it is the
pre eminent postgame pre and postgame show.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The other the other networks have done it. Do we
have Charlie? Yeah, we got Charles. That's want to make
sure you right. Let's hear Charles and then we can go.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
He said something about we're the reason people aren't watching
this crappit.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Product we got that's what.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Yeah, like we got there jacking up one hundred threes.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
JJ.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I don't know Jason Monroe. I don't know who that is.
But JJ, you come for the king. You bet not missing.
I can get you, brother, because I got Remember, I
got your Lakers games.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You can't hide them flaws.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
They got.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
You're just a dead man walking. They got rid of
Frank Vogel, who did a good job. They got rid
of darburn Ham, who did a good job. If you
came out that thing and you were gonna change things
with that same ugly girl, you want them to hate
with sixty fifty one was your halftime score's Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
He came in, I can make this thing words here,
you can.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Pig.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Ron Parker. I loved every minute of it. I'm just
gonna be honest. You know what.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I owe Jj Reddick an apology because I only thought
of JJ Reddick as a sharpshooter, but now I look
at him as an Alley ooper. He threw the greatest
allude to Charles Barkley, and Charles Barkley did exactly what
Charles Barkley does and what he did not only as
an analyst and a person on TNT Rod Parker, he
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did it as a player, full transparency, authentically himself, brutally honest.
And so for JJ to call out the one guy
who's been who he has been the entirety of his
career in our life, and knowing Charles Barkley stop it,
Chuck Kenny and Charles and then of course Ernie being
the maestro, that is what they created. They roast teams,
(08:00):
they roast players. You know who else got roasted the
Warriors because Charles didn't like all the shooting threes and
other teams shooting threes. He's been doing that for a decade.
He has been exactly who he has been for all
of this time. And to be fair, JJ are not
to be fair. But another thing about JJ, and it
kind of goes to Charles's point.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
JJ.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know him personally, but there's something about him
feels there is an element of like, you don't even
know what I'm about to do. You don't even know
how I'm about to bring it. Y'all not even ready
for what I'm about to do. And there's a little
bit of pump your breaks, JJ. You hey, who knows
what time. Maybe you'll end up being an excellent coach.
But he kind of is coming in hot.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
He's coming in breaking clipboards, and you know, and kind
of you don't even know how smart I am and
you don't even guys don't even understand. It's like you
got to slow your roll a little bit.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
They're calling out the media already, you know, twenty forty
games in.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But that's who he love the breaks a little bit,
that's who he is.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He thinks he's smarter than everybody and that he knows
more about basketball than anybody else who played and all that,
and he was gonna come and and and take the
same box of nothing and put it and and win
with it and show you that that it was already
here and that he didn't eat. But of course they
didn't make a trade, and they're gonna make another one,
(09:15):
probably right because they realized they don't have enough, okay,
And they didn't have enough for Darvin ham And I'm
not saying Darvin hamm was the greatest coach to have
a coach, But it wasn't all his fault, that's all.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It can't be because listen, you know how many coaches
have been paid by the Lakers to sit on a
couch or to go elsewhere. Darvin ham Mike Brown, Vogel,
who am I missing? By Byron Scott Like at a
certain point, I mean, everybody can't be bad. Frank Voger
got to be sitting there somewhere confused, like, ok. Came in,
(09:49):
fixed things up, gave you guys an identity, a hard
nosed defensive team. Boom, we win a championship. You trade
all my pieces or get rid of them or don't
sign them. That made us a championship team and they
you're like, hey, I took all the ingredients, but make
that same dish.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
How I'm supposed to do that. But the idea that
it's just if you.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Look at it as a whole, right, a whole piece
of this puzzle.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The media.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Sure, maybe it is a puzzle, a piece of the puzzle,
but it is a bunch of other things. And I
think what you're seeing is these analysts like Charles Barkley
articulate what fans haven't been able to articulate, didn't either
know how to say it or didn't have the capacity
the way too say it right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't have a national platform.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So what Charles is saying, and Kenny and check, they're
just echoing what a lot of people feel. Something's been off,
something isn't quite right, and something.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Needs to change.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Nobody's saying they're never gonna watch the NBA game it's
the worst thing ever. They're just saying some tweaks and
changes need to be made.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But also, I mean, and then people say ESPN and
other people have put on the over the top everything's
great NBA shows and they haven't been successful because people
all have felt like they're not getting.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Honesty.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
No one's asking you to rip the league all the time.
But when something is bad, I think fans want to
be told that they're bad. When things are good, you
could talk about the good, but to sit there and
act like nothing's going on, or that the ratings on down.
It took Adam Silver a long time to even acknowledge
that that there's a problem. And that's what happens with
(11:25):
the ESPN has tried a million combinations.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And they do this, Let's do that.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
His will bond is here's let's let's get some NBA players.
Let's talk about exson. Oh, nobody watches the numbers aren't there,
all right, So there is something. Kenny and Shack and
and Ernie and Chuck they got a chemistry. And Charles's
honesty is what makes him musty TV. And I get it.
(11:57):
He doesn't watch all the games and he's not. That's
not what people are looking for. That's what Kenny's there for.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Kenny is the real analyst who's gonna analyze and break down.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's why he's the one who runs to the board.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Let me also say this too, the idea that Charles
Barkley has powerful influence over my mind. No, we all
know Chuck don't necessarily watch all the games. And we
also know Chuck likes to get on a little thing,
like he hasn't liked the Lakers in the last ten, twelve,
fifteen years. You know, he didn't like some of the team.
The Warriors shoot, they're too small, they shoot too many threes.
(12:28):
What do you think about this team? That's just Chuck.
But let's stop acting like Chuck has mind control over
the viewers and as if we can't distinguish ourselves. Hey,
the product isn't necessarily as good. Something seems to be off.
We love the game, that's why we watch it. We
want it to be better. But Charles Barkley ain't influencing
me like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Like I gotta give mind too much credit mind control
over the viewer.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's all bad, and I'm the reason why you think
it's bad.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's to miss seventy five threes that people watch that
that's just that's not.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What people want.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
The same exact scheme high pick and rolls, high pick
and rolls, shut for three like when we the Payday
and whatever whatever era you want to go with. There
were differentiating things between teams Steve. If I say Steve
Nash and those Phoenix Suns, every last one of us
knows what that team was, what it did. You know,
if I go to that Detroit basketball team, sorry, rob G,
(13:25):
you know what they were about. Like you had teams
and you knew what they were, their style, what they do.
That's a part of what's missing, is not Charles playing
Jedi mind tricks on me to make me think that
I'm now I can see what's going on. All right,
we want to hear from you eight seven seven ninety
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Nine on Fox. It's Real, It's real easy. Do you agree?
Do you agree with.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Charles Barkley's comments going back at JJ Reddick. We'll continue
that conversation next with you. Also some movement on the
Jimmy Butler and stuff to that. No, there's a movement.
Uh so, well, Mark, We'll ask Mark Stein about that
at the bottom of the app But we'll take your
calls on the Charles Barkley, JJ Reddick. It is the
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All right, Liarley, it is a funky flashback Friday. You
know what I wish. I wish we could have caught him.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
You made at any point in your career did you
actually catch Mike and On in the flesh? No clause.
It was hard to get to his shows. I remember
when he did. You know, it wasn't that easy.
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Yeah, because I always hear the stories of when people say, Man,
the best part about it was one time I caught
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He had to go back to that because you know
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about JJ Reddick going at Charles and TNT inside the NBA,
(15:26):
saying they're part of the problem with the uh recentcy
of you know, issues with the NBA and viewership down
Charles buck Beck and we're saying, whose side.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Are you on and all of this? Eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox, who we got Joel and Colorado.
You're on the Joe Fox Sports Radio. What's up Joel?
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Thanks for letting me on, love your show.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Thank you all the time.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Hey, I'm I'm this one. I mean, I'm a little
bit older. But I think it's like you think. Number one,
I think the way we watch a college changed starting
the UH. Starting with college. You know, it used to
be guys would go to college back in the day,
even guys like Charles and Jordan's man. You know, people
(16:11):
that we sawn to were started off in college. They
were there almost like one and done thing, right. I
think that's part of it. The other thing, I think
this is what you were talking about earlier about how
there's no dinnity anymore anymore, like like I grew up.
I was a big Regie Miller founder in Indiana, Big
Pacers in Reggie, Like you knew what the pisses were,
(16:33):
knew what the pacers were.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Knew it, Joel.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
It's it's everybody's doing the same thing, which is just
launching up threes. Appreciate the call. What about Chili Tim
in Atlanta? You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports
Radio with Chill Tim.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Whatever.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
Guys, how you guys doing. Happy New Year to you guys. Man,
I think this courset of all. Let me just say this, Uh,
you know j J. He's a duke, dr Kad. You
know if you think about all those guys and they're
just dorks. You know, they've always been that way.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So except.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
Hill like that, Okay, Grand is the only one, right.
But here's the thing I was thinking about too. Like
the NBA, it's like a cumins of effect like this started.
This just didn't start. It started back when when you know,
they had the load management people. Fans would go to games,
or you had these national telebi games people would play,
(17:29):
and then you went to the all start game, you know,
and then now you got this. So it's been like
a cumulative effect that they've been ignoring for years now,
and now it's all coming home. You know, you can't
cure what you want to acknowledge. So the problem is
they've been having problems.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
For years and Tim that spot on that because we
just talked about it. The commissioner has just acknowledged it,
even though people were belly aching about the load management.
I told you before I spent two thousand dollars.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It was like a mid or miss on who was
playing in the game and stuff. Tim, thanks for the call.
How about Andre in Massachusetts join the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio the Subdrey.
Speaker 10 (18:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Happy Friday?
Speaker 10 (18:12):
I got no problem with Charles Barkley setting record straight
and giving the rookie there JJ Reddick a little bit
of tough love. The fact of the matter is, you know, JJ,
I don't mind his cerebral approach to things, you know
and very precise and calculating and frankly snarkish uh in terms.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
Of how he goes Uh.
Speaker 10 (18:31):
You know that that's who we is, That's who he
was as a broadcaster analyst. He obviously has the Duke background,
But the bottom line is, Uh, it's about wins and losses.
That's that's what allows you to have that personality. And
he hasn't been successful as a first year coach. And
there's a lot of background in terms of when guys
get this off, these opportunities ahead a schedule, I e.
Steve nash Right, who was propped up by m a
(18:54):
Udoka and Mike D'Antoni and Jacques vond On. His propping
these guys upwards clearly not ready. It's not the it's
not the move. So Charles burd I mean this is
one thousand percent correct because Steve, Steve, excuse me, JJ Reddick,
he needs to establish himself first as a coach, that's
his competency before you can be this outside personality. Right,
we accept it from Dion, but Deon's been winning okay,
(19:17):
And Dion was a Hall of Famer beforehand, and he
did and he cut his teeth at Jackson State.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
So no problem with what Charles did.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
JJ.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Win some games and then we'll have more of any Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Right, rights all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm just shocked he's spending time going at the Then
you're not podcast JJ Reddick anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You're coaching.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Go focus on the squad. All right, thank you so
much for the calls. You don't forget what's last call.
You can get in there and just a little bit
later on. But let's just get straight to what's trending
right now with Steve Seger.
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Speaker 1 (20:00):
We've got some big news in the NBA, and that's
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Fox Sports Radio NBA inside on the Steinline on Substack
to break it all down.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Happy New Year to you, Mark, Thanks for joining us up.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
They not so old couple. I apologize if it's loud.
I'm at getting ready to watch the Calves and MAVs
in Dallas, so it's a little bit louder than it
should be. But hopefully it's not too bad.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Now you've got a good phone, it sounds great. It stinks, no,
KYRII to night Huh you tho?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I mean, look, the MAVs are the MAVs have a
billion health issues right now. I'm no Luca, no Kyrie.
But honestly, honestly, I got I gotta tell you, Rob,
it's my first look at the Calves in person all year, right,
And I know, I know you guys want to talk
Tommy Butler, but I'm I'm I mean, the Calves are
such a good story that no one is talking about.
I mean, they're on a seventy two to ten pace ridiculously.
(20:53):
I'm really looking forward to seeing these guys for the
first time from up close.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
All right, let's go with the jim Butler.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I'm not surprised that the pat His comments yesterday to
the media didn't sit well with pat Riley a new organization,
because he sounds like he wants his joy back, so
basically said that he didn't really want to be there.
Give us some details on what's going on here.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Well, I would actually say that this is playing out
probably unlike it would anywhere else. I mean, it started
the day after Christmas when pat Riley came out with
a very forceful statement and said we are not trading
Jimmy Butler. And a week later, Jimmy Butler has publicly
acknowledged that. You know, he was flat out as can
(21:42):
you get your joy back as a member of the Heat, right,
he said, probably not. And the Heat responded today with
a seven game suspension for conduct detrimental the team to
the team. And you just don't see that in the NBA.
You don't see a team willing to take such a
hard line. And it just kind of illustrates that. You know,
(22:06):
the Heat operate the way they operate, and they're never
going to change. But you know, this thing, I would
say still has a lot of twists in turns to
go because although the Heat now are saying, you know,
as part of their statements tonight, they said we will
now field trade offers for Jimmy Butler, but the reality
is there are a lot of there's a strong case
(22:27):
to be made that waiting until the summer is the
right move. So I don't know that we're going to
see a Jimmy Butler trade between now and the trade
deadline on February sixth. It's far likelier that it's going
to stretch into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
See I'm with you, Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Basically, he's trying to strong on the Miami Heat to
give him one hundred million dollars or whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And they refuse to be a part of that. I would.
I wouldn't make a move now, Kelvin, I would.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I mean, that's that's I don't care if you Lebron,
d Wade, whatever you were now Jimmy Butler, but let
me ask you this, Mark. I'm not asking you to
be the president of the Players Association, but do you
think there's anything where they can say, hey, seven games
for what show us what Jimmy did that warranted this suspension?
Speaker 10 (23:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I think they will. They will at least look at
it and run that ground ball out to see if
there is any appeal that can be filed, because again,
you know, you don't often see a team suspend a
player for seven games. But look, this just happened, and
you know what kind of options the union has. I
(23:36):
think we're you know, I think they're still trying to
ascertain is there any mechanism for them to try to
push back on this? But like I said, you know,
one way or the other. You know, I don't think
we were going to see Jimmy on the court for
the heat after what happened these last few games and
last night's press conference. So like I said, this is
(23:59):
this is a saga with lots moors, twists in turns,
and yes, the trade deadline is February sixth, but again
I mean the Heat, there's you know, the Heat can
They want maximum flexibility, so they're not just gonna like,
you know, there was all to talk about Phoenix. You know,
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Phoenix would love Jimmy Butler, and they would, the Suns would.
But the only way the Suns could do it is
by offering Bradley Beal, and the Sun, I mean, the
Heat don't want Bradley Beal's contract. Bradley Beal has one
hundred and ten million left on that deal after this season.
So I think Miami will continue to be judicious and
(24:40):
patient and try the best they can to trade Jimmy
Butler on their term if they can pull that off.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Mark Stein our guest Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider, the
Stein Line, and of course the Steinline on substack joining
us now the yacoup of Rock Parker, Kevin Washington.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Hey, I love Charles Barkley going out after JJ Reddick.
I did because JJ.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Reddick was the one who threw it out there that
they're the reasons that people aren't watching the NBA because
they criticized the product.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
How surprised were you they charge? And of course Ernie
of course was trying to do the high a yes,
move on to the highlights during it. But they made
for some good TV.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Well look, I mean that show is in a class
by itself. It's been in a class by itself for decades.
But remember I already told you this last week. I
know you don't want to believe me, Rob Parker, but
I promise you we are just the ratings, like the
whole ratings discussion, I promise you rating TV ratings have
(25:44):
never met left.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
I know you don't want to believe me.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But I'm no.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
You know what, this is my problem? I'm okay because
because Mark, here's my problem. You're saying that with the NBA, okay,
But all they talk about is the NFL TV, even
though there we see plenty of bad games, okay, and
we know gambling is big with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then people throw it down baseball's.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Face because baseball is one hundred and sixty two games
in the NFL is seventeen and they want equal rating
for each game. But nobody ever says, well, how can
you compare one baseball game compared to one NFL game.
Wouldn't it be ten games to one? You know what
I mean to TV ratings? But now it's okay. The
(26:31):
NBA's waitings are down and ratings don't matter, but they
matter for baseball and NFL as all people talk about
a TV raiting, So which one is?
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Well?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
I guess I have a different perspecond on it because
I feel like, and you know, we're both old enough
to remember this. You know, in the late seventies the
dialogue was so strong about the NBA is on the
verge of going out of business.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Yes, and since then, since.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
The late seventies, until Magic and Bird into the league,
and even after they did, what's wrong with the NBA?
It just it is. It is a question that is
constantly posed. It's a national sport unto itself. And that's
that's why this dialogue even exists, because I just feel
like people are what's wrong with the NBA? The minute
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ratings are done?
Speaker 8 (27:18):
What's wrong? What's wrong?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
The NBA had a great Christmas? So what does that mean?
Did it all get fixed in a week? I mean, again,
like I said, it's an it's an anniquated way of
evaluating how people are following a sport, at least on
my scorecard. I know many don't agree, but that's that's
my perspective.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Look, I think it's somewhere mark in the middle and
that NBA by far dwarfs all the other American sports
leagues when it comes to social media engagement, views and
all that. So I can kind of get where you're
going from. But I do think we all agree that
there are some issues with just stylistically and also narratives
and storylines.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
We're kind of missing that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Let me go back to something we started with where
you are at getting ready to see the mass in
Cleveland the Cavaliers. You mentioned something, you said the Cavaliers,
nobody really talks about them, and that's a great point.
What do you think it is that would need to happen?
I mean, they got some good stars out of the
Mitchell Garland. Why aren't we talking a couple they need it?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Just a couple of years ago, they didn't talk about
the Denver Chicken Nuggets all year until they want to.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I was going to say, is it simple my host
season winning?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
It's a great question, and I'm just as guilty as
the next pundit for not talking about them enough because
again I'm gonna say it, twenty nine to four, seventy
two win pace. And I was one of the naysayers.
I was one of the guys coming into this season
who thought their core four doesn't fit. They're finally going
(28:43):
to trade someone, and you know Kenny Atkinson as the coach,
it's not going to make that much of a difference.
And I couldn't have been more wrong. And the only
soul as I have is that I'm not alone. A
lot of us got this wrong in assessing this Cleveland team.
And what's been so good for them is they've increased
their three point volume each successive month of the season.
(29:05):
And the best thing they're doing is they've reduced Donovan
Mitchell's workload to thirty one and a half minutes per games.
It's the least Donovan Mitchell's ever played, and he's going
to be so much fresher in the postseason, in such
a better position to do damage in the postseason. And
you got to give Kenny Atkinson a lot of credit.
(29:25):
There's been some great coaching jobs in the NBA this year,
like Jamal Moseley. With all the injuries, Orlando's face hylu
with where he has the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think was one of the best coach.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
The floor for one second, but I'm telling you Tenny
Atkinson clinch Coach of the Year in the NBA without
fifteen and oh start like he is going to win
Coach of the Year. And this Cavs team, like I said,
I'm I'm I can't say it enough about how good
they've been. Honestly he is.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Mark Stein, Hey, go enjoy the game. Happy New Year
to you with man.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
All right, guys, we'll catch up soon and be good.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All right, Mark Stein right there breaking it all down
for us. We got Sheko City maybe also a little
bit more on this, Jimmy Butler, pat Riley Schacho City
mist It's okay, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Hey, you can't win them all, big dog. You can't.
Well even though you did the other day, you didn't
win them all. Alex, Alex, I got Drew Prey draws
on today. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Let's go to the club and you know, oh you
back now, We're back, all right, k Dot, Yeah, I
need you.
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All right, I'm here for you.
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Speaker 3 (31:27):
Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parker's daily Dix
against the Spread.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
All Right, Shekel City zero and three, Last night, Bad Night,
three and three On the brand new year. As you know,
we reset the clock yep, and here we go for today,
January third, twenty twenty five. Shekel City got the Orlando
Magic minus one and a half at the Toronto Raptors,
(32:01):
the Pistons minus seven and a half hosting the Charlotte Hornets,
and I'm taking the Wizards plus seven and a half
at the New Orleans Pelicans. I know you're looking at
me because they worked for me the other night. You
remember that they worked for me the other night. Like,
but both of them are really bad and it's not
(32:22):
like I think only one win separate the two teachers.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So disappointing. Oh yeah, just bad? So again Pelicans.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I mean the Wizards plus seven and a half, the
Pistons minus seven and a half and the Orlando Magic
minus one and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
They are playing the Hornets.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Dang, that's enough, right, They lose J and Ivy and
they still get a favored by seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, I'll tell you a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That says a lot about the horn Remember, Calvin, I'm
not telling you who to bet on.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I'm telling you, excuse me who I bet on? What
is this? I don't know? Man?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
All day, I'm not even kidding you all day, I believe,
But honestly, like all jokes aside not even remotely being funny,
like all day, you might just say, hey, you know
thirty on Pump six or Hey, like, dude, you're talking
for a living hard yelling and fatic.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We're going at it. We're laughing, We'll be listen, man,
you know what we do is hard.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Man. They don't understand what we do. It's it's a
difficult job. Meanwhile, somebody's like, dude, I just put a
twelve hour shift laying brick. So uh, Jimmy Butler, we
didn't really get a chance. We kind of you know,
thank you to Mark Stein for joining just to put
a button on that.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Well, can I say this, Yeah, if I'm the heat,
I don't care. Do you remember when shoe Hey was
gonna leave the Angels and everybody knew it and they
were like, I even went on mob network.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I would just trade him. He's not signed, we's signing with.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
You offer him five hundred million, and if he says no,
you trade him. You remember what the Washington Nationals did, yep, right,
they offered Soto four hundred and forty million, he said no.
The next day they traded him. Like seriously, once you
do that? So if what I I would do to
just get a point because he's basically to me trying
to strong arm the heat into some money. He's a
(34:07):
thirty five year old player who hasn't won anything, and
it's always banged up and missing.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Like what what do you want?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Go out there and go see who's going to give
you that deal, because we're not going to I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, I think you're looking at two you know how
they stayed like two immovable forces. And what I mean
by that is Jimmy Butler has been his own man.
Like him, love him, and I think for the most part,
most part people have loved him throughout his career.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Jimmy's a different cat. You know.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It comes in different hair colors and styles and does
crazy things on media day. He's had issues with the
seventy six ers, you know, the the bulls, and you know,
he's just a different kind of cat. You pair that
with pat Riley, who's a different type of president, meaning
sometimes he'll even do things that he'll look back and go,
all right, maybe my ego, maybe I was too competitive,
(34:59):
Maybe I was in my you know, playing day's mindset
and my coaching day's mindset. Not necessarily president, because you know,
he's how he felt about Lebron. If you want to
have your crew and team to kind of dictating things
you can go to. And he came back and was like,
maybe I'll kind of overdid that. That's just Pat Riley.
So you can see where this is gonna be a
game of you know, it was a game of chicken,
if you will, because Pat don't play that.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He ain't your average presidential of bad basketball.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
But but sometimes you know what, you got to stand
on principle, even if it's not in your best I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Sometimes that's what I'm saying. Pat has done that.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yea, and not just any if Lebron and his prime
can go d Wade that was a little weird, you know,
because he was he is Miami Heat and all that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
But like yeah, but even the.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
D Wade thing, if you remember, it was over a
small amount of money, like he went to the Bulls for,
not like just it was that's ego where people get
their feeling ki.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
The ego mixed in with a bunch of eagle like.
Like I said, pat Riley got some ego in a
in a great way. And it's like when Rob G
wanted to go to ESPN seven ten, we got about
a minute. Tell me this story, Robb Gi, what was
that all about rob g you know who says, I
ain't gonna still go there. Hey, hey, I've been there.
You ain't doing that, you all right?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And it was only for like a dollar fifty more
an hour or something, and that would make me think,
what was you doing on that?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
He was ready to go for a buck fifty? He
was like, I can't get me.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Out small, and I was like, you know what, no, no,
but you get my point. I just think that he
stand up to Jimmy like you obst to him and
be like, nah, well we'll suspend you. You'll lose some
money for stuff. I dare you to keep saying that,
we'll keep suspending you, and then guess what we'll hold
(36:40):
on to you.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And then you go find you.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Somebody's going to give you one hundred million dollars on Jimmy,
getting Jimmy some but on some the only people that
got horn at.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Team exactly. We need a veteran, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Obviously I'm rooting for him, but the Pistons because I
got a bunch of money something like that. But we'll
see how this works out. You got two people who
ain't gonna Budge and Jimmy and his team and pat
Riley and his the NFL, well, the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Maybe they need to change
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Speaker 2 (02:05):
And uh, hour three is that Rob G Kyle? How
do you say that? Slaughter?
Speaker 4 (02:13):
Slaughter, slaughter slow? I felt real, I know, and you
got thrown out that, Rob G. Yeah, Rob, don't ever
do me like that again. Slaughter the next break and
then I'll say slow to be it's gang related over here.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You want team us. That's why I asked, because I
want to get him right. No, I'm not giving you
any slaughter.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
Former NFL quarterback an hour number three, also last call
and NFL pigskin pickoff, Rob G, NFL pigskin pickolf.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Look at your Rob Parker. Continue, No, but only up
one now right? I need baby oil. No, I'm still rolling.
Hold on. I had I had a great week, didn't I?
Rob G? Yeah, and you're not up. I shouldn't be up.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
But I dink it should be either tied or I'm
down one now, Robot Final week, rob G, make sure
you pick some good games because it's like weird, like
who's not playing? This person isn't starting and blah blah blah.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
Stop complaining. All right, let me welcome in my co host,
my partner in crime.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Don't you're gonna say my complaining co host? Yeah, there
you go. His name is Kelvin Washington. How are you.
I'm feeling good.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
Got an extra shot of espresso and my twenty seven
dollars coffee over here. That Rob G would be mad
if I told him how much it was, and I
just told him, so, he's probably good.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
That you're making all that cake.
Speaker 4 (03:28):
You know, rob G is nice to be able to
throw around twenty seven dollars.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know, I know he's calling the rest of us
a bunch of brokies.
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First of all, First of all, first including meirst of all,
you know what state he's been sweatshirt?
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What? Yeah? Oh no, that this was Marshalls. Yeah right,
I got it that Marshalls. Usually they give that to
you when other things happen.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Now, you know what that funny story about that rob
got his car yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Usually that what usually like, hey, you throwing the hat
and the sweatshirt? Yeah, we got it. What's low key?
I might have to call my It might have to
be a conversation with my dealer about something. You didn't
get it. You didn't get it.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
I'm thinking about I didn't get it in some conversation
my wife didn't. Roger, thank you for making my my
mad as my dealer right now?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
No right, I mean, come on, man, he's supposed to
be making the deal happen.
Speaker 4 (04:14):
So I'm literally you think I'm joking. I'm gonna text them.
WHI We're literally doing the show.
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Speaker 2 (04:26):
That's right.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Feel good, though, man, feel good, finishing the week strong,
our first week of twenty twenty five, hopefully.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
So.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
I feel weird, still zombie, laying. I feel like everybody's
saying that it's everyone's lost.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
I don't know what it feels like. It feels weird.
But if you had more of a traditional nine to five.
Would you feel different? You know what I mean, like
I had to be at the office at eight thirty
nine and then.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
You know, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
It just feels weird, like the whole holiday you didn't teach, right,
you're off too, Yeah, I'm off until the thirteenth, so
that might have playing roll into it as well.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, we're you just Joe, got another eight nine days.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
Before you'll probably you'll be back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
once I'm back to school. In allrmal let's start here.
And uh, if you were watching Inside the NBA last
night or on social media, you could have saw it
or whatever because it was buzzing like crazy. But Charles
Barkley finally got a chance to address you. Remember the
(05:24):
JJ Reddick we comments that's right where he basically blamed
inside the NBA and stuff for the reason that the
ratings are down, which is just total malarkey, nonsense, boulder dash,
poppy cock, whatever word you want to use. And I thought,
I think JJ Reddick is the biggest hypocrite going okay,
(05:44):
because when he was on ESPN, all he did was
beat down the NBA, told us about all the plumbers
and butchers and whatnot who played and disrespected the earlier
era of the NBA, So he's no better than anybody else.
And then he wants to get on his soapbox and
say the weizing people on, well you ever nobody badaging
(06:05):
the product though, No, no, that's why it is the
pre eminent postgame pre and postgame show.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
The other the other networks have done it. Do we
have Charlie? Yeah, we got Charles. That's want to make
sure you right. Let's hear Charles and then we can go.
Speaker 6 (06:21):
He said something about we're the reason people aren't watching
this crappit.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
Product we got that's what.
Speaker 6 (06:26):
Yeah, like we got there jacking up one hundred threes.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
JJ.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
I don't know Jason Monroe. I don't know who that is.
But JJ, you come for the king. You bet not missing.
I can get you, brother, because I got Remember, I
got your Lakers games.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
You can't hide them flaws.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
They got.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
You're just a dead man walking. They got rid of
Frank Vogel, who did a good job. They got rid
of darburn Ham, who did a good job. If you
came out that thing and you were gonna change things
with that same ugly girl, you want them to hate
with sixty fifty one was your halftime score's Rudy Gobert.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
He came in, I can make this thing words here,
you can.
Speaker 8 (07:05):
Pig.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Ron Parker. I loved every minute of it. I'm just
gonna be honest. You know what.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
I owe Jj Reddick an apology because I only thought
of JJ Reddick as a sharpshooter, but now I look
at him as an Alley ooper. He threw the greatest
allude to Charles Barkley, and Charles Barkley did exactly what
Charles Barkley does and what he did not only as
an analyst and a person on TNT Rod Parker, he
(07:38):
did it as a player, full transparency, authentically himself, brutally honest.
And so for JJ to call out the one guy
who's been who he has been the entirety of his
career in our life, and knowing Charles Barkley stop it,
Chuck Kenny and Charles and then of course Ernie being
the maestro, that is what they created. They roast teams,
(08:00):
they roast players. You know who else got roasted the
Warriors because Charles didn't like all the shooting threes and
other teams shooting threes. He's been doing that for a decade.
He has been exactly who he has been for all
of this time. And to be fair, JJ are not
to be fair. But another thing about JJ, and it
kind of goes to Charles's point.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
JJ.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I don't know him personally, but there's something about him
feels there is an element of like, you don't even
know what I'm about to do. You don't even know
how I'm about to bring it. Y'all not even ready
for what I'm about to do. And there's a little
bit of pump your breaks, JJ. You hey, who knows
what time. Maybe you'll end up being an excellent coach.
But he kind of is coming in hot.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
He's coming in breaking clipboards, and you know, and kind
of you don't even know how smart I am and
you don't even guys don't even understand. It's like you
got to slow your roll a little bit.
Speaker 8 (08:47):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
They're calling out the media already, you know, twenty forty
games in.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
But that's who he love the breaks a little bit,
that's who he is.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
He thinks he's smarter than everybody and that he knows
more about basketball than anybody else who played and all that,
and he was gonna come and and and take the
same box of nothing and put it and and win
with it and show you that that it was already
here and that he didn't eat. But of course they
didn't make a trade, and they're gonna make another one,
(09:15):
probably right because they realized they don't have enough, okay,
And they didn't have enough for Darvin ham And I'm
not saying Darvin hamm was the greatest coach to have
a coach, But it wasn't all his fault, that's all.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
It can't be because listen, you know how many coaches
have been paid by the Lakers to sit on a
couch or to go elsewhere. Darvin ham Mike Brown, Vogel,
who am I missing? By Byron Scott Like at a
certain point, I mean, everybody can't be bad. Frank Voger
got to be sitting there somewhere confused, like, ok. Came in,
(09:49):
fixed things up, gave you guys an identity, a hard
nosed defensive team. Boom, we win a championship. You trade
all my pieces or get rid of them or don't
sign them. That made us a championship team and they
you're like, hey, I took all the ingredients, but make
that same dish.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
How I'm supposed to do that. But the idea that
it's just if you.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Look at it as a whole, right, a whole piece
of this puzzle.
Speaker 2 (10:11):
The media.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Sure, maybe it is a puzzle, a piece of the puzzle,
but it is a bunch of other things. And I
think what you're seeing is these analysts like Charles Barkley
articulate what fans haven't been able to articulate, didn't either
know how to say it or didn't have the capacity
the way too say it right.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
I don't have a national platform.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
So what Charles is saying, and Kenny and check, they're
just echoing what a lot of people feel. Something's been off,
something isn't quite right, and something.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Needs to change.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Nobody's saying they're never gonna watch the NBA game it's
the worst thing ever. They're just saying some tweaks and
changes need to be made.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
But also, I mean, and then people say ESPN and
other people have put on the over the top everything's
great NBA shows and they haven't been successful because people
all have felt like they're not getting.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Honesty.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
No one's asking you to rip the league all the time.
But when something is bad, I think fans want to
be told that they're bad. When things are good, you
could talk about the good, but to sit there and
act like nothing's going on, or that the ratings on down.
It took Adam Silver a long time to even acknowledge
that that there's a problem. And that's what happens with
(11:25):
the ESPN has tried a million combinations.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
And they do this, Let's do that.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
His will bond is here's let's let's get some NBA players.
Let's talk about exson. Oh, nobody watches the numbers aren't there,
all right, So there is something. Kenny and Shack and
and Ernie and Chuck they got a chemistry. And Charles's
honesty is what makes him musty TV. And I get it.
(11:57):
He doesn't watch all the games and he's not. That's
not what people are looking for. That's what Kenny's there for.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Kenny is the real analyst who's gonna analyze and break down.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
That's why he's the one who runs to the board.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Let me also say this too, the idea that Charles
Barkley has powerful influence over my mind. No, we all
know Chuck don't necessarily watch all the games. And we
also know Chuck likes to get on a little thing,
like he hasn't liked the Lakers in the last ten, twelve,
fifteen years. You know, he didn't like some of the team.
The Warriors shoot, they're too small, they shoot too many threes.
(12:28):
What do you think about this team? That's just Chuck.
But let's stop acting like Chuck has mind control over
the viewers and as if we can't distinguish ourselves. Hey,
the product isn't necessarily as good. Something seems to be off.
We love the game, that's why we watch it. We
want it to be better. But Charles Barkley ain't influencing
me like that, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (12:49):
Like I gotta give mind too much credit mind control
over the viewer.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
It's all bad, and I'm the reason why you think
it's bad.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
It's to miss seventy five threes that people watch that
that's just that's not.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
What people want.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
The same exact scheme high pick and rolls, high pick
and rolls, shut for three like when we the Payday
and whatever whatever era you want to go with. There
were differentiating things between teams Steve. If I say Steve
Nash and those Phoenix Suns, every last one of us
knows what that team was, what it did. You know,
if I go to that Detroit basketball team, sorry, rob G,
(13:25):
you know what they were about. Like you had teams
and you knew what they were, their style, what they do.
That's a part of what's missing, is not Charles playing
Jedi mind tricks on me to make me think that
I'm now I can see what's going on. All right,
we want to hear from you eight seven seven ninety
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Speaker 2 (13:41):
Nine on Fox. It's Real, It's real easy. Do you agree?
Do you agree with.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Charles Barkley's comments going back at JJ Reddick. We'll continue
that conversation next with you. Also some movement on the
Jimmy Butler and stuff to that. No, there's a movement.
Uh so, well, Mark, We'll ask Mark Stein about that
at the bottom of the app But we'll take your
calls on the Charles Barkley, JJ Reddick. It is the
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know what I wish. I wish we could have caught him.
Speaker 4 (14:40):
You made at any point in your career did you
actually catch Mike and On in the flesh? No clause.
It was hard to get to his shows. I remember
when he did. You know, it wasn't that easy.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
Yeah, because I always hear the stories of when people say, Man,
the best part about it was one time I caught
him and he did the he had a regular voice.
Speaker 4 (14:59):
He had to go back to that because you know
that's voice. An't like that all the time. So that
was Here's how I hear. Those stories are the.
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about JJ Reddick going at Charles and TNT inside the NBA,
(15:26):
saying they're part of the problem with the uh recentcy
of you know, issues with the NBA and viewership down
Charles buck Beck and we're saying, whose side.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Are you on and all of this? Eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox, who we got Joel and Colorado.
You're on the Joe Fox Sports Radio. What's up Joel?
Speaker 8 (15:44):
Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Guys?
Speaker 8 (15:45):
Thanks for letting me on, love your show.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Thank you all the time.
Speaker 8 (15:49):
Hey, I'm I'm this one. I mean, I'm a little
bit older. But I think it's like you think. Number one,
I think the way we watch a college changed starting
the UH. Starting with college. You know, it used to
be guys would go to college back in the day,
even guys like Charles and Jordan's man. You know, people
(16:11):
that we sawn to were started off in college. They
were there almost like one and done thing, right. I
think that's part of it. The other thing, I think
this is what you were talking about earlier about how
there's no dinnity anymore anymore, like like I grew up.
I was a big Regie Miller founder in Indiana, Big
Pacers in Reggie, Like you knew what the pisses were,
(16:33):
knew what the pacers were.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Knew it, Joel.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
It's it's everybody's doing the same thing, which is just
launching up threes. Appreciate the call. What about Chili Tim
in Atlanta? You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports
Radio with Chill Tim.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Whatever.
Speaker 9 (16:49):
Guys, how you guys doing. Happy New Year to you guys. Man,
I think this courset of all. Let me just say this, Uh,
you know j J. He's a duke, dr Kad. You
know if you think about all those guys and they're
just dorks. You know, they've always been that way.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
So except.
Speaker 9 (17:08):
Hill like that, Okay, Grand is the only one, right.
But here's the thing I was thinking about too. Like
the NBA, it's like a cumins of effect like this started.
This just didn't start. It started back when when you know,
they had the load management people. Fans would go to games,
or you had these national telebi games people would play,
(17:29):
and then you went to the all start game, you know,
and then now you got this. So it's been like
a cumulative effect that they've been ignoring for years now,
and now it's all coming home. You know, you can't
cure what you want to acknowledge. So the problem is
they've been having problems.
Speaker 4 (17:44):
For years and Tim that spot on that because we
just talked about it. The commissioner has just acknowledged it,
even though people were belly aching about the load management.
I told you before I spent two thousand dollars.
Speaker 9 (17:58):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It was like a mid or miss on who was
playing in the game and stuff. Tim, thanks for the call.
How about Andre in Massachusetts join the odd couple of
Fox Sports Radio the Subdrey.
Speaker 10 (18:10):
What's going on?
Speaker 8 (18:11):
Happy Friday?
Speaker 10 (18:12):
I got no problem with Charles Barkley setting record straight
and giving the rookie there JJ Reddick a little bit
of tough love. The fact of the matter is, you know, JJ,
I don't mind his cerebral approach to things, you know
and very precise and calculating and frankly snarkish uh in terms.
Speaker 9 (18:30):
Of how he goes Uh.
Speaker 10 (18:31):
You know that that's who we is, That's who he
was as a broadcaster analyst. He obviously has the Duke background,
But the bottom line is, Uh, it's about wins and losses.
That's that's what allows you to have that personality. And
he hasn't been successful as a first year coach. And
there's a lot of background in terms of when guys
get this off, these opportunities ahead a schedule, I e.
Steve nash Right, who was propped up by m a
(18:54):
Udoka and Mike D'Antoni and Jacques vond On. His propping
these guys upwards clearly not ready. It's not the it's
not the move. So Charles burd I mean this is
one thousand percent correct because Steve, Steve, excuse me, JJ Reddick,
he needs to establish himself first as a coach, that's
his competency before you can be this outside personality. Right,
we accept it from Dion, but Deon's been winning okay,
(19:17):
And Dion was a Hall of Famer beforehand, and he
did and he cut his teeth at Jackson State.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
So no problem with what Charles did.
Speaker 8 (19:23):
JJ.
Speaker 9 (19:24):
Win some games and then we'll have more of any Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4 (19:27):
Right, rights all the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm just shocked he's spending time going at the Then
you're not podcast JJ Reddick anymore.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You're coaching.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Go focus on the squad. All right, thank you so
much for the calls. You don't forget what's last call.
You can get in there and just a little bit
later on. But let's just get straight to what's trending
right now with Steve Seger.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
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Speaker 1 (20:00):
We've got some big news in the NBA, and that's
why we had to get a big hitter, Mark Stein,
Fox Sports Radio NBA inside on the Steinline on Substack
to break it all down.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Happy New Year to you, Mark, Thanks for joining us up.
Speaker 7 (20:14):
They not so old couple. I apologize if it's loud.
I'm at getting ready to watch the Calves and MAVs
in Dallas, so it's a little bit louder than it
should be. But hopefully it's not too bad.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
Now you've got a good phone, it sounds great. It stinks, no,
KYRII to night Huh you tho?
Speaker 7 (20:31):
I mean, look, the MAVs are the MAVs have a
billion health issues right now. I'm no Luca, no Kyrie.
But honestly, honestly, I got I gotta tell you, Rob,
it's my first look at the Calves in person all year, right,
And I know, I know you guys want to talk
Tommy Butler, but I'm I'm I mean, the Calves are
such a good story that no one is talking about.
I mean, they're on a seventy two to ten pace ridiculously.
(20:53):
I'm really looking forward to seeing these guys for the
first time from up close.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
All right, let's go with the jim Butler.
Speaker 4 (21:00):
I'm not surprised that the pat His comments yesterday to
the media didn't sit well with pat Riley a new organization,
because he sounds like he wants his joy back, so
basically said that he didn't really want to be there.
Give us some details on what's going on here.
Speaker 7 (21:20):
Well, I would actually say that this is playing out
probably unlike it would anywhere else. I mean, it started
the day after Christmas when pat Riley came out with
a very forceful statement and said we are not trading
Jimmy Butler. And a week later, Jimmy Butler has publicly
acknowledged that. You know, he was flat out as can
(21:42):
you get your joy back as a member of the Heat, right,
he said, probably not. And the Heat responded today with
a seven game suspension for conduct detrimental the team to
the team. And you just don't see that in the NBA.
You don't see a team willing to take such a
hard line. And it just kind of illustrates that. You know,
(22:06):
the Heat operate the way they operate, and they're never
going to change. But you know, this thing, I would
say still has a lot of twists in turns to
go because although the Heat now are saying, you know,
as part of their statements tonight, they said we will
now field trade offers for Jimmy Butler, but the reality
is there are a lot of there's a strong case
(22:27):
to be made that waiting until the summer is the
right move. So I don't know that we're going to
see a Jimmy Butler trade between now and the trade
deadline on February sixth. It's far likelier that it's going
to stretch into the offseason.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
See I'm with you, Jimmy Butler.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
Basically, he's trying to strong on the Miami Heat to
give him one hundred million dollars or whatever he wants.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
And they refuse to be a part of that. I would.
I wouldn't make a move now, Kelvin, I would.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
I mean, that's that's I don't care if you Lebron,
d Wade, whatever you were now Jimmy Butler, but let
me ask you this, Mark. I'm not asking you to
be the president of the Players Association, but do you
think there's anything where they can say, hey, seven games
for what show us what Jimmy did that warranted this suspension?
Speaker 10 (23:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (23:13):
I think they will. They will at least look at
it and run that ground ball out to see if
there is any appeal that can be filed, because again,
you know, you don't often see a team suspend a
player for seven games. But look, this just happened, and
you know what kind of options the union has. I
(23:36):
think we're you know, I think they're still trying to
ascertain is there any mechanism for them to try to
push back on this? But like I said, you know,
one way or the other. You know, I don't think
we were going to see Jimmy on the court for
the heat after what happened these last few games and
last night's press conference. So like I said, this is
(23:59):
this is a saga with lots moors, twists in turns,
and yes, the trade deadline is February sixth, but again
I mean the Heat, there's you know, the Heat can
They want maximum flexibility, so they're not just gonna like,
you know, there was all to talk about Phoenix. You know,
(24:19):
Phoenix would love Jimmy Butler, and they would, the Suns would.
But the only way the Suns could do it is
by offering Bradley Beal, and the Sun, I mean, the
Heat don't want Bradley Beal's contract. Bradley Beal has one
hundred and ten million left on that deal after this season.
So I think Miami will continue to be judicious and
(24:40):
patient and try the best they can to trade Jimmy
Butler on their term if they can pull that off.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
Mark Stein our guest Fox Sports Radio NBA Insider, the
Stein Line, and of course the Steinline on substack joining
us now the yacoup of Rock Parker, Kevin Washington.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Hey, I love Charles Barkley going out after JJ Reddick.
I did because JJ.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Reddick was the one who threw it out there that
they're the reasons that people aren't watching the NBA because
they criticized the product.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
How surprised were you they charge? And of course Ernie
of course was trying to do the high a yes,
move on to the highlights during it. But they made
for some good TV.
Speaker 7 (25:21):
Well look, I mean that show is in a class
by itself. It's been in a class by itself for decades.
But remember I already told you this last week. I
know you don't want to believe me, Rob Parker, but
I promise you we are just the ratings, like the
whole ratings discussion, I promise you rating TV ratings have
(25:44):
never met left.
Speaker 9 (25:45):
I know you don't want to believe me.
Speaker 2 (25:46):
But I'm no.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
You know what, this is my problem? I'm okay because
because Mark, here's my problem. You're saying that with the NBA, okay,
But all they talk about is the NFL TV, even
though there we see plenty of bad games, okay, and
we know gambling is big with the NFL.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
And then people throw it down baseball's.
Speaker 4 (26:10):
Face because baseball is one hundred and sixty two games
in the NFL is seventeen and they want equal rating
for each game. But nobody ever says, well, how can
you compare one baseball game compared to one NFL game.
Wouldn't it be ten games to one? You know what
I mean to TV ratings? But now it's okay. The
(26:31):
NBA's waitings are down and ratings don't matter, but they
matter for baseball and NFL as all people talk about
a TV raiting, So which one is?
Speaker 9 (26:40):
Well?
Speaker 7 (26:40):
I guess I have a different perspecond on it because
I feel like, and you know, we're both old enough
to remember this. You know, in the late seventies the
dialogue was so strong about the NBA is on the
verge of going out of business.
Speaker 8 (26:55):
Yes, and since then, since.
Speaker 7 (26:57):
The late seventies, until Magic and Bird into the league,
and even after they did, what's wrong with the NBA?
It just it is. It is a question that is
constantly posed. It's a national sport unto itself. And that's
that's why this dialogue even exists, because I just feel
like people are what's wrong with the NBA? The minute
(27:17):
ratings are done?
Speaker 8 (27:18):
What's wrong? What's wrong?
Speaker 7 (27:19):
The NBA had a great Christmas? So what does that mean?
Did it all get fixed in a week? I mean, again,
like I said, it's an it's an anniquated way of
evaluating how people are following a sport, at least on
my scorecard. I know many don't agree, but that's that's
my perspective.
Speaker 1 (27:36):
Look, I think it's somewhere mark in the middle and
that NBA by far dwarfs all the other American sports
leagues when it comes to social media engagement, views and
all that. So I can kind of get where you're
going from. But I do think we all agree that
there are some issues with just stylistically and also narratives
and storylines.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
We're kind of missing that.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Let me go back to something we started with where
you are at getting ready to see the mass in
Cleveland the Cavaliers. You mentioned something, you said the Cavaliers,
nobody really talks about them, and that's a great point.
What do you think it is that would need to happen?
I mean, they got some good stars out of the
Mitchell Garland. Why aren't we talking a couple they need it?
Speaker 4 (28:13):
Just a couple of years ago, they didn't talk about
the Denver Chicken Nuggets all year until they want to.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
I was going to say, is it simple my host
season winning?
Speaker 7 (28:22):
It's a great question, and I'm just as guilty as
the next pundit for not talking about them enough because
again I'm gonna say it, twenty nine to four, seventy
two win pace. And I was one of the naysayers.
I was one of the guys coming into this season
who thought their core four doesn't fit. They're finally going
(28:43):
to trade someone, and you know Kenny Atkinson as the coach,
it's not going to make that much of a difference.
And I couldn't have been more wrong. And the only
soul as I have is that I'm not alone. A
lot of us got this wrong in assessing this Cleveland team.
And what's been so good for them is they've increased
their three point volume each successive month of the season.
(29:05):
And the best thing they're doing is they've reduced Donovan
Mitchell's workload to thirty one and a half minutes per games.
It's the least Donovan Mitchell's ever played, and he's going
to be so much fresher in the postseason, in such
a better position to do damage in the postseason. And
you got to give Kenny Atkinson a lot of credit.
(29:25):
There's been some great coaching jobs in the NBA this year,
like Jamal Moseley. With all the injuries, Orlando's face hylu
with where he has the Clippers.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I think was one of the best coach.
Speaker 7 (29:39):
The floor for one second, but I'm telling you Tenny
Atkinson clinch Coach of the Year in the NBA without
fifteen and oh start like he is going to win
Coach of the Year. And this Cavs team, like I said,
I'm I'm I can't say it enough about how good
they've been. Honestly he is.
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Mark Stein, Hey, go enjoy the game. Happy New Year
to you with man.
Speaker 7 (30:00):
All right, guys, we'll catch up soon and be good.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
All right, Mark Stein right there breaking it all down
for us. We got Sheko City maybe also a little
bit more on this, Jimmy Butler, pat Riley Schacho City
mist It's okay, It's okay.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Hey, you can't win them all, big dog. You can't.
Well even though you did the other day, you didn't
win them all. Alex, Alex, I got Drew Prey draws
on today. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (30:24):
Let's go to the club and you know, oh you
back now, We're back, all right, k Dot, Yeah, I
need you.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
All right, I'm here for you.
Speaker 5 (30:32):
Bro.
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Speaker 4 (31:36):
All Right, Shekel City zero and three, Last night, Bad Night,
three and three On the brand new year. As you know,
we reset the clock yep, and here we go for today,
January third, twenty twenty five. Shekel City got the Orlando
Magic minus one and a half at the Toronto Raptors,
(32:01):
the Pistons minus seven and a half hosting the Charlotte Hornets,
and I'm taking the Wizards plus seven and a half
at the New Orleans Pelicans. I know you're looking at
me because they worked for me the other night. You
remember that they worked for me the other night. Like,
but both of them are really bad and it's not
(32:22):
like I think only one win separate the two teachers.
Speaker 2 (32:25):
So disappointing. Oh yeah, just bad? So again Pelicans.
Speaker 4 (32:29):
I mean the Wizards plus seven and a half, the
Pistons minus seven and a half and the Orlando Magic
minus one and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
They are playing the Hornets.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
Dang, that's enough, right, They lose J and Ivy and
they still get a favored by seven and a half.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, I'll tell you a lot.
Speaker 4 (32:47):
That says a lot about the horn Remember, Calvin, I'm
not telling you who to bet on.
Speaker 2 (32:51):
I'm telling you, excuse me who I bet on? What
is this? I don't know? Man?
Speaker 4 (32:57):
All day, I'm not even kidding you all day, I believe,
But honestly, like all jokes aside not even remotely being funny,
like all day, you might just say, hey, you know
thirty on Pump six or Hey, like, dude, you're talking
for a living hard yelling and fatic.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
We're going at it. We're laughing, We'll be listen, man,
you know what we do is hard.
Speaker 1 (33:16):
Man. They don't understand what we do. It's it's a
difficult job. Meanwhile, somebody's like, dude, I just put a
twelve hour shift laying brick. So uh, Jimmy Butler, we
didn't really get a chance. We kind of you know,
thank you to Mark Stein for joining just to put
a button on that.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Well, can I say this, Yeah, if I'm the heat,
I don't care. Do you remember when shoe Hey was
gonna leave the Angels and everybody knew it and they
were like, I even went on mob network.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
I would just trade him. He's not signed, we's signing with.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
You offer him five hundred million, and if he says no,
you trade him. You remember what the Washington Nationals did, yep, right,
they offered Soto four hundred and forty million, he said no.
The next day they traded him. Like seriously, once you
do that? So if what I I would do to
just get a point because he's basically to me trying
to strong arm the heat into some money. He's a
(34:07):
thirty five year old player who hasn't won anything, and
it's always banged up and missing.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
Like what what do you want?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
Go out there and go see who's going to give
you that deal, because we're not going to I'm serious.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
Yeah, I think you're looking at two you know how
they stayed like two immovable forces. And what I mean
by that is Jimmy Butler has been his own man.
Like him, love him, and I think for the most part,
most part people have loved him throughout his career.
Speaker 2 (34:35):
Jimmy's a different cat. You know.
Speaker 1 (34:37):
It comes in different hair colors and styles and does
crazy things on media day. He's had issues with the
seventy six ers, you know, the the bulls, and you know,
he's just a different kind of cat. You pair that
with pat Riley, who's a different type of president, meaning
sometimes he'll even do things that he'll look back and go,
all right, maybe my ego, maybe I was too competitive,
(34:59):
Maybe I was in my you know, playing day's mindset
and my coaching day's mindset. Not necessarily president, because you know,
he's how he felt about Lebron. If you want to
have your crew and team to kind of dictating things
you can go to. And he came back and was like,
maybe I'll kind of overdid that. That's just Pat Riley.
So you can see where this is gonna be a
game of you know, it was a game of chicken,
if you will, because Pat don't play that.
Speaker 2 (35:20):
He ain't your average presidential of bad basketball.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
But but sometimes you know what, you got to stand
on principle, even if it's not in your best I'm serious.
Speaker 2 (35:29):
Sometimes that's what I'm saying. Pat has done that.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Yea, and not just any if Lebron and his prime
can go d Wade that was a little weird, you know,
because he was he is Miami Heat and all that.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
But like yeah, but even the.
Speaker 4 (35:40):
D Wade thing, if you remember, it was over a
small amount of money, like he went to the Bulls for,
not like just it was that's ego where people get
their feeling ki.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
The ego mixed in with a bunch of eagle like.
Like I said, pat Riley got some ego in a
in a great way. And it's like when Rob G
wanted to go to ESPN seven ten, we got about
a minute. Tell me this story, Robb Gi, what was
that all about rob g you know who says, I
ain't gonna still go there. Hey, hey, I've been there.
You ain't doing that, you all right?
Speaker 4 (36:10):
And it was only for like a dollar fifty more
an hour or something, and that would make me think,
what was you doing on that?
Speaker 1 (36:15):
He was ready to go for a buck fifty? He
was like, I can't get me.
Speaker 4 (36:18):
Out small, and I was like, you know what, no, no,
but you get my point. I just think that he
stand up to Jimmy like you obst to him and
be like, nah, well we'll suspend you. You'll lose some
money for stuff. I dare you to keep saying that,
we'll keep suspending you, and then guess what we'll hold
(36:40):
on to you.
Speaker 2 (36:41):
And then you go find you.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
Somebody's going to give you one hundred million dollars on Jimmy,
getting Jimmy some but on some the only people that
got horn at.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
Team exactly. We need a veteran, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
Obviously I'm rooting for him, but the Pistons because I
got a bunch of money something like that. But we'll
see how this works out. You got two people who
ain't gonna Budge and Jimmy and his team and pat
Riley and his the NFL, well, the playoffs.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Maybe they need to change
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