March 13, 2025 • 37 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not Cooper Flagg’s ankle injury could turn March Madness into ‘March Sadness’, tell us if Flagg’s injury should prevent Duke from holding on to the top overall seed in the NCAA Tournament, explain why the New York Knicks need to reconsider their future with head coach Tom Thibodeau and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets.
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Elvin Washington. Man, what's happening good?
Speaker 1 (02:10):
I'm looking at Alex right now since it's Tyson Tower
or Trivia coming up in a little bit, and I'll
tell you what. Look at my look at the joy
it brings. Manzi whatever what you hating on me last time?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Monty?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
We used to be cool, but I don't know I'm
messaging hating you on the game or hating for not
having a key card to get in. No, first of all, snitches,
get you know what's okay?
Speaker 1 (02:27):
I mean? And you it's in my car and you
over here cheering and booing my clues last week.
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Okay, so I got beef with you, but I was
not good. They're not good in fact.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
I'm okay, I can admit that. But Alex, I like
the permout today, is what I'm saying. I like that,
the little blowout, Yeah, you got the blowout.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Anything else looked different about me?
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I can't see from here. I can't really see.
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From here that's gonna hurt ful. I worked out today, No.
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Okay, you get the guns out and the glass. I
couldn't really see that. Yes, shake got some more working.
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Out to do.
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But good to be here, good to be here, ready
to do it?
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Man?
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the Odd Couple crew. Could you wouldn't be able to
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You'll keep us updated throughout the program.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
And yes, Elijah is our social media guru. Yes, let's
start here. College basketball March madness is uh? Uh selection
Sunday is this Sunday? And uh there's news about Cooper Flag.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Yeah, and it's not good news.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, I mean he's literally the star right now. You
can say the face keeping college basketball for men live
or the how good is he how's good is Duke?
Could he do in the league? Will he be that
great in the NBA? And so all of a sudden
he's down. Rob g Uh tell us a little bit
more about this ankle injury. Yeah, if you saw the video,
it was all bad.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
You know.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
He went up for a rebound, came down on somebody's
foot and immediately went down in pain. He had to
have teammates carry him off the floor. He gets to
the sideline, He's immediately put in a wheelchair. They wheel
him to the back. If you saw the video and
the still shot of his ankle, it looked like a grapefruit.
I mean it is swollen. Immediately he goes to the back,
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they retape him, and to his credit, he came back
to the silnce, didn't stay in the back, stood with
his team. Obviously, wasn't walking, wasn't movie immediately ruled out
after the game, He's ruled out at least for the
rest of the ACC tournament to be determined on his
future for March Madness.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I'm glad you said that that phrase you just
said there March madness, because that's what we all look
forward to. A lot of people even take the day off,
the first day or two. They're all excited about it
because that's what it's about. It's about this, the brackets.
Your friends, got your wings going, you're excited about it.
If Cooper Flag goes out, it goes from March Madness
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to March sadness, because he is this singular face of
college basketball. You know, it's the truth. March Madness will
be March sadage. You can't name four of you can't
even make a starting five, You can't name four other
players in college basketball. He has been the story. He
has been the face, and he has been the intrigue
and what people are watching to see. How will he
(05:15):
do in his first tournament? How will he stay at
dude because he doesn't want to go to the Charlotte
Hornets who might draft him? You know, will he ball
out and be a Carmelo Anthony type, go through your
freshman year, be the star, win a championship. He's what
everybody wants to see. And if he's out, and which
is why I think they are saying at least a tournament,
but not saying further because they don't want to lose
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any juice of it.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So this is big for college basketball. They don't have
many stars. The men's side, the opposite of the women's
They have a handful of stars, and they had a
hand even more last year. The college men's college basketball
doesn't have stars. They're not pumping them out like this,
and he is a face of it, and it'll be
very disappointing if he's not there, because whether you love
him or hate him, you'll watch. Whether you love or
hate Duke, you'll watch. And it's still an American pastime.
(06:00):
March madness will watch it. But that buzz, that entrigue
I think will be down some without him.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Rob.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, I don't buy into that.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think he is the guy people want to watch
and are you know, looking at Duke or whatever as always,
But March Madness is bigger than that. It's about schools, alumni,
it's about people the first round.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
They're looking for an upset.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
They don't know most of the schools, small schools, they
don't know who the players are. People if they give
you a bracket, they're going by the color of their
uniform or what their mascot is.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
They don't know most we don't know most of the
guys here.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
It's not like the old days where guys played three
or four years.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Sure, we know who he.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Is, but the tournament is not gonna go away, or
people aren't gonna watch. They haven't been watching for years
because that the best players aren't in college basketball, they're
in the NBA. So we get that. But I don't think,
oh my god, and the tournament or don't watch because
Cooper flag Duke doesn't play every night and and people
(07:00):
are still looking for upsets. People are looking to see
their school. If you're went to Saint John's and now
Rick Patino's there and now they got a good program,
there's interest there. What is Saint John's all about? There's
a lot of other stories there. Granted he's a star
part of it, but March Madness is bigger than just
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one guy with him maybe not playing.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't disagree with that at all. I think this
is the fun part of it is seeing a Wichita state.
But I think it's just a crazy part we're at
because you recall, depending on your air right if you
want to go to the eighties, the nineties or the
two thousands early two thousands, Man March Madness has stars
on a lot of the teams you knew three to
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four to five of the players, and it was just
it was great and you always got.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
To see the small team.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You didn't know the underdog that David to a David
and Goliath story. But it is just mind boggling to
me now how you just don't even know any of
the players. And it's just to me, That's what I
was thinking. When I saw Cooper Cooper go down. I
was like, man, you really don't like that's the guy.
You know, whether you see all the games, whether you
know you watch ten of the Duke's games, you at
(08:09):
least knew him. You knew the Okay, here's that kid.
Let me see, everybody's been talking about him for two
or three years. Now you knew that. And end is
just interesting how far we've come from my era. You know,
if you want to say, like the Formidable years, the
nineties with the UNLV's the Fab fives, you can pick
any iteration of the Duke team to a North Carolina team,
to some of those North Carolina state teams with Wan Dickx,
(08:30):
I mean in the early two thousands, like having a
run of knowing teams, knowing how they're built, knowing that
the rivalries.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
They don't like that guy. They don't like that guy,
that team.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's beef with that team that was part of the intrigue,
as well as the unknowns and the teams of small teams.
And it's just we've come a long way, rob where
we don't like that's it. It's your alum, you're an
alumni of a school, your alma maters playing or like
you said, it just I just want to see David
be Goliath, like there's no more or why know Rashid Wallace,
(08:59):
Jerry Stackow and cod and that you know those North
Carolina teams want to go up against them and ooh,
it's like you don't know anyone. And that's It's just
I was thinking, like how far we've come in that regard.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah, I mean, sure, do you want cooper a flag
to be there?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sure you do.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
But I just think March madness is just about at
this point now and we've been through it for a
long time. This is not the old college basketball twenty
years ago. Plenty of people haven't gone to college to
play some of the biggest stars, or they've played had
a cup of coffee in the sweet role in college
because they were forced to.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
So I just think.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
People are like about faceless, nameless players, but they're looking
at uniforms at my Alma Mada in my school, and
it's a it's a reason to it's just a hangout
and have beer and chicken wings. And most of the
time they don't know who the players are. I've watched
the coverage. Some of the analysts doing this stuff doing
the college basketball don't know who the guys are.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
So how to I didn't say Shack.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But yeah, you can't be mad at Shack. I mean,
because just nobody knows in this regard. And it's an excuse, right,
It's excuse to hang out by the water cooler at
your job. It's an excuse to go over to Bob's
you know station at your job. And because he's got
the computer going up with five or six different games.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's all fun. We all love it. Listen.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's just one of those things. That's why I said,
it's like an American pastime. We do this for a
few weeks every year. It's fun. But you lead to
another conversation too, just as far as the one and
done is this is it where you need to abolish it?
You need to just get rid of it and let
guys go straight to the league. Let guys who aren't
quite that good stay two three years and not be
(10:37):
deemed you know, unsuccessful. You're are not that good, you
had to stay in college for two or three years, Like,
is it time to have that conversation again as we
you know, think about this and rehash this conversation based
off of again, Cooper Flag would have went straight to it.
He'd have been a number one pick, not even touching
the college basketball last year.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, I know, I still to this day, you know
when they did that, But that's I'm blame the players.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Players are signed off on that.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
There's no way you could be a tennis player at fourteen,
play golf, soccer, you could go You don't go to
college to play Major League baseball, you go straight to
the There's no reason they did that to try to
help the college game and the players selfishly not wanting
those guys to get paid. I just I can't believe
that they would sign off on that. You could go
(11:23):
into the military and grab a gun. You can't play,
but you can't play basketball. I mean, come on, no
other place do you stop a prodigy? You don't stop.
If a fourteen year old girl can play at Carnegie Hall,
you don't go, oh no, you can't play it in fourteen, yeah, nineteen, yeah,
or whatever. I mean, it's it's ridiculous, and that the
idea that the union signed off. That was one of
(11:45):
the worst things I talk about the NFL players Union.
That was one of the worst moves by the NBA
Players Association.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Just a terrible, terrible move, and it didn't need to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And it's not I mean football. You could argue, okay,
they're not big enough to not strong enough. You could
argue that, and I think most people will go, you
know what kind of makes sense.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean, I don't even believe that because there are
prodigies and people who I'm with you on that, and
leave it to the general managers to say you had
physically you're not ready or you're.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Not ready to play. Why can't they do that? You
don't have to make a rule.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
They're afraid that if you open that door and some
kid who's eighteen or nineteen and he's big and strong
and can play in the league, then you have a thing.
Now you're damaging college football. That's all of that, I know,
I to completely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I was just saying, if you try to convince someone
because of the physicality, you can Now, okay, I can
kind of understand that NBA makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I mean, if you look at some of the best players.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
In the last thirty years, forty years, they all come
straight out of high school. I mean, Dwight Howard, Lebron
Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett. I mean, we can go down
the list. There's a bunch of guys who are really
and then someone say the.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Some weren't well.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You know how many two three four year guys weren't
good either. So I'm totally with you. It makes no sense.
No other sport does it this way. If Steve Jobs
and Bill Gates want to start a big time company
in their garage at nineteen twenty, they can do that.
Nobody telling them you can't have a business until you're
twenty one. Completely as actually very un American, as far
(13:15):
as from a capitalist standpoint, you know what I mean,
Who's gonna hold somebody back that can't can't get money
and do well for themselves and their family?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Doesn't make sense. So I'm totally with you on that.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
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Flag can't play, would March Madness become March Sadness.
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just about March Madness, Cooper Flag obviously out we don't
(14:44):
know exactly how long with the ankle injury. I was
just saying, he's really the only name folks know, Rob saying,
folks still gonna watch.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
That's just a part of the nature of what we do.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
He's watched March Madness eight seven, seven niney nine on Fox.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So we got Antonio in Miami. You're on the idd
couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Pay, what's up? Guys. I don't think I want to
touch on something Calvin said after, but real quick.
Speaker 9 (15:05):
About Black, I don't I think you're either into it
or you're not.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
And I don't think he's the face.
Speaker 9 (15:11):
I don't think Cole Bestball has the face of anything.
I don't think the NBA really even has a face.
So I would say, you know, for those that are
Duke fans, you know, sorry. But well to his other
point about I do miss the days in the mid
nineties or even before that, when they had great rivalry basketball.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
And I remember when you know the great, they.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Would start the resume like Jabbar or Magic.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
They would start with the.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Like the college championship that started.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Then he got to the NBA Championship.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
So but no, I would have to I would have
to say that I would rather see them come in
at twenty one twenty two, and I know they have
the right to.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I don't like the middle ground where they're saying you
got to stay, let them come in at eighteen, or
come in or find it polished, which would be better
for the NBA.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But but Antonio, shouldn't that be that That should be
on the general managers, not on the kids.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Don't draft the kid if he ain't ready. I don't.
I don't even know how to do it. You don't
have to.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Draft him, Rob, it's just too much money involved.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You're right, I know, but but it's ridiculous that they're
drafted unproving guys who aren't polished and shouldn't be in
the NBA. That and then you look around and go, oh,
well he didn't ban out and we gave millions.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
That's your fault, not the kid.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Completely agree. You don't have to take a high schooler.
He's not If he's not ready, he's not ready. We
like this other kid.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Move on Alex in Spokane. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
What's up Alex, Hey guys Thursday. I I want to
start off with the fact that you know the n
cua A, that's just a big money grab for them
to keep a kid in the league.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
That's all it is. That's all it is.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
It makes no sense. They do this so they can
make a year worth of un or yeah, exactly the
other part Televin. I hate to argue with you, but
the tournament is such a special thing, especially for people
like us and still can who we don't have any
professional teams. Gonzega is our team. Now we don't have
(17:20):
a championship, but it's a fun ride. I go to
the tournament every year I get a chance to go
see it and just seeing the crowds show up, the
different people. It's just so entertaining watching GCU as a
twelve steed last year beat it a five seeds. Right,
There's just so much that goes into this tournament, the
one and done. You learn new names, you learn new people,
(17:43):
you you understand the sport better. And it's just I mean,
we were purple to the game last year just to
support GCU because their fans were so exciting to watch.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, and that's all.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
I just don't think you can put the game into
one person's name.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I think you're right.
Speaker 10 (18:02):
It's horrible to lose him, don't get me wrong. But
somebody will come out of the shadows in the next
two weeks and we will be talking about him just
as much as Cooper Flag.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
All right, Alex, great points, really, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That larger point is just that it's crazy that it's
literally one guy that everybody knows, Like, I just.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Think the tournament is just not the same. But I agree,
and here is like he said, spoke, that's what.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
They all they have. I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
But my whole point is, like it used to be,
you got the benefit of the young upstart, some you know,
middling team, an unknown underdog, and you got the big
Dukes in North Carolina. You know what I mean, you
got the That's what made it amazing is having the couple,
the two of those things coupled together.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Trey in Houston, You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports radio.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
What's up, Tray, You're so good? How you doing doing great?
Speaker 10 (18:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Good brother, doing good?
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Man?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
I think yeah, man, it's kind of fun of the league.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Man.
Speaker 10 (18:53):
As far as in college basketball, I mean, that's the
only name I've really.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Been heard of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, that's and that's sad that literally there's one name
you've heard of. And I'm assuming you're a college basketball
for at least a sports fan.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Do you have a team the school?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Did you go to any of these schools that participate,
or just a fan of a college basketball team.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
I'm just a fan of the college basketball around this time, right.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
A lot of people, a lot of people are alumni
and whatnot, and they just want to see their team.
It doesn't matter who's playing.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Yeah. And also, man, what was gonna start here around Elive? Man,
we got to be hearing about him sometimes.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, we'll get them all, Alex. You hear that? Yes,
I know when you're gonna heard of Alive?
Speaker 7 (19:37):
You about them?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm sorry, who were talking about the one dude does
the thing is stuff?
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Who's the call talking about the guy that does the stuff?
Oh that guy?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, not you, yeah, you mean guy it fills in
for robbery.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
You that Elijah.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Okay, no, we're trying, Hey, trade, we tried.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
They're working on it, right, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
All right, hey, real quick, let's get Drew in New
Jersey and you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
What's up, Drew?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Hey, guys, I think that the NCAA. I don't say
the NCAA needs him, but I think the NBA. This
would be juice for it for the NBA if he
had a great March madness, especially coming in you have
a you know where there's a lot of uncertainty with
you know, Lebron getting old and that face of the
league kind of being a question mark. I do think
(20:31):
that had those two guys at Rutgers, you know, one
more games, I think you would hear more about Aast
Balley and Ron Harper Junior or whatever the guy's name is,
Ron Harperson, Who Ron Harper Senior? I mean if Draymond
Green is a Hall of Famer, I think Ron Harper
was two times the player Graymond Green ever was, and
he has five rings. So if we're talking about rings,
you know we're gonna put Raymond Green in the Hall
(20:51):
of Fame, you should probably put Ron Harper is a.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Good point individual man. For man, Ron Harper was a
better player for sure. I get what you're saying with that. Uh,
that's true stuff. Good called. Appreciate you man all right. More,
we got some talk about bracketing. Bracketing, I say, and
where teams are gonna rank with Cooper flag out, there's
an idea of how Duke is handling is how the
NCAA is handling this. Rob has a thought on that.
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Speaker 5 (21:48):
Also, before we move on to the college basketball and flags,
injury and Impact, just some quick thoughts on John Feinstein,
who passed away. Well, Washington Post columnists, I was unaware. Yeah,
you know, wrote like forty five books, an unbelievable writer,
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and he passed away today, sixty nine years old.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
They say natural causes is what they're saying. So att yeah, early,
but I guess.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, something can give out a fail or whatever. But
natural causes what they're saying. But he's a big loss.
He was a big part of college basketball. He wrote
a lot of books. I think one of his biggest
books was about Duke.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
So John Feinstein dead at age sixty nine. I know
he had a radio show and he's a Washington Post
columnist for a long time. I think, you know, did
some stuff at ESPN and other stuff. But just wanted
to get that in love and prayers to John Feinstein's
family with the loss of one of the most prolific
sports writers that we've had.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, and one of them looking at it now. To
Season on the Brink was his first one. One of
his first New York Times bestsellers, chronicled the eighty five
six Ina University basketball team. You mentioned Coyleg's basketball, So
he has got a handful of those two.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, man, rest in peace.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
No doubt, all right, flags injury and whether or not
it has any impact. I mean there's some rumors stuff
floating around that, Okay, he doesn't play in the ACC tournament.
But if he doesn't play, you know, uh selection Sunday, Sunday,
it's coming Sunday. So after the ACC tournament, if they
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don't think he's playing, I don't know how you could
affect the team's ranking, like just because he's not there.
I think that would be totally unfair. If they have
the best record and one of the best four records
to lead, why in the world would you change it
because he's not gonna play, or even the idea of it.
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I mean, I don't think that they can definitively say
he won't play under any circumstance anything break his leg
or something like that, or have an injury of that ILK.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I don't know why they would.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Would penalize Douk as a whole considering what they did
all year. It shouldn't it be about the team and
about the record.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, It's about what we
did to get to this point, because after that point
anything can happen. Right, injuries can happen, a coach just
has a bad game, coach gets ill. I mean, there's
a million things that could happen after this. But it's
all the work, the whole collective, the team put in
to get us to this point, to have hopefully possibly
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in their minds, the easiest route to get to the
final four or the least challenging route to get there.
So yeah, all of a sudden have revision is history
because the guy might not be fully healthy. It's not fair,
it's not and again it goes against what it's supposed
to be about. Right, it's supposed to be about amateurism
and putting all integrity and you're playing your hardest, and
you know, you use a meritocracy. What you put in,
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you're gonna get out and all that kind of stuff.
And to not do that, to me, goes against the
It poses all of those things. Duke did what they're
supposed to do. All the guys play hard. If they
were to be outs in the first round, that's just
what would happen. But you're supposed to give them the
opportunity to compete where they're supposed to be for all
the work they did. The other thirty semi games.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, and it's not just him. I mean, that would
be unfair to just look at him. There are other
players on.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
The team, got great players. Do call on that kind
of stuff?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
And then what would you do if you know you
don't You don't change where you are as far as
being at the top of a bracket. If somebody gets
hurt during the tournament, do you go like, Okay, well
you don't have your best player.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Now we're gonna drop this right. You don't have a
selection Thursday now right. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
So I think I get the impact, and I guess
you know, it happened in college football, which is kind
of weird uh and circumstances. I just think it's unfair
to the rest of the team. Uh And and hopefully
it won't affect where they rank and they should get
a number one seeds as scheduled.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, it shouldn't happen in either sport. But I think
it's even more of a reason it shouldn't happen in
basketball because there's other guys, Like if you're Louisville and
you had Lamar Jackson and he was just all World
Heisman guy, he goes down, I could see there shouldn't be.
But I could see why they say, all right, this
is this is different. Louisville's chances have now changing college
football playoffs. So I don't know, but they shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
But but you had to get that record to get there,
and everybody contribute.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I'm completely in agreement.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
But my only point I was saying, especially in college
basketball where it with a duke team like dude, they
have other guys that can hold it down and make
a run for a week and week and a half
until he would have been back, or even if he
weren't to be back, that they've earned that spot.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
So yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. I
go back to what you said.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I agree, they've earned the right to simply be where
they're supposed to be, and you can't take that from
him because of an injury.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
It's going to be very very interesting just to see
and whether or not. You know, I think Flag should
play if he's healthy. If he's hurt, I would not
rush back. I wouldn't do anything crazy, you know. I
remember we had this big controversy with Ion Williamson when
he got hurt and blew out a sneaker and all that,
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and people were telling them, oh, you're gonna be the
first pick.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Don't play again. You don't need to play.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And I'm like, dude, if you're twenty years old, you
don't want to play, something's wrong with that. If you're healthy,
if you're healthy, I'm the first one to raise my hand.
If you're not healthy, don't play. But if you're healthy,
why wouldn't you play. If you don't play at nineteen
and twenty, when are you playing thirty seven years old?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I got it right at that point, like, nah, broh,
go ahead, go the only I'm I always am a
big believer in that.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
But the flip.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Side of that would be when people don't want people
to play in ball games, they'll.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Say, ah, perfectly fine, I just don't want to ball.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Come to be a TOI, because you see, that's different
from the standpoint of you can get hurt and it
damages what's going to happen for your future.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
But that's why they would say the same thing. In
the tournament, I'm zion, but what if I twist my ankle?
But the tournament is different.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Most of the bowl games that people they don't sit
out if you're in the college football playoff and have
a chance to win a national chance.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Now, if somebody did that, I would question them.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
If the top quarterback is playing for Alabama or one
of these schools and they decide, well, I'm going to
high in the draft, I'm not going to play in
the championship game. I don't want that guy. But if
you're telling me it be playing in a meaningless bowl
game that has no ramifications. I'm not winning anything that game.
I'm not playing it. And football is different from basketball
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because football you can literally get hurt on every snap.
It's just a big difference.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Will I'm a big fan of playing man because to
as much as the ultimate goal is getting to the pros,
whatever the sport is, it's also, dude, you get to
have a full life and hopefully Lord willing and so
if you can have that experience, if your Cooper flag
or in a case you brought up Zion, you got
to play in a tournament, you know you're going to
the league, you get drafted to the league, you have
your NBA career. Like to me, that's just adding on
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to the richness of your life experiences of your life,
and if you get an opportunity, and especially you're a Zion,
a Cooper Flag or these type of guys, even if
you get injured, you're still gonna get drafted. Kyrie Irving
blew his was it knee out in college? Only played
like six games. Maybe we're still the number one pick.
Like when you're that guy, you're gonna be that guy,
you know, especially in college basketball where they identify, oh,
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you're the number one pick. So go ahead and have
fullness of life, get your march madness on in, get
to go to the pros and have some fun and
for as long as your career lasts as well, cause
these are an experience, and that's sometimes we forget. We're
always talking to get to the money, but sometimes just
sometimes these experiences matter equally as much as the money
of the brand too.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
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All right, a little Shekel City yesterday one and two.
That takes my record down cool Man to sixty six
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Speaker 6 (31:38):
Yay, thanks Lebron. All Right, here we go tonight, when
we got we got the best bet.
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I'm taking the Magic minus two and a half in
New Orleans, Magic minus two and a half.
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Also have Brooklyn plus one and a half in Chicago.
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They've played better on Lake.
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No, Brooklyn plus one and a half.
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I'm looking forward to your bounce back man, Rob g Man,
what's going on with the Knicks right now? Where we
got we got some drama going on with Tips and
there was a.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Lot of drama yesterday. Shout out Jason Smith. He came
in here upset yesterday.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Oh what shock? Or upset about a New York team?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
So before the game yesterday, mcal Bridges went viral for
any media with the New York Post where he basically said,
I'd prefer not to be playing thirty eight thirty nine
minutes game. You know, but this is part of who
TIBs is. He likes to play his guys and I
told him hey, or he says, my opinion is because
it is very clear that he didn't actually tell Tims this.
(33:09):
He said, if the bench is playing good, or we
feel like ladr Shanmick gives some good minutes, let him
play some good minutes. You don't need to play the
starters as long as you do so before the game, TIBs,
that's about, you know. The TIBs is like, well, hey,
Jalen Brunton, a cat, don't play too many minutes. It's
just heart Ananobi and mcaley because they're wings and all
the best players of wings. I gotta have my best
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defenders in there, and so there was some tension obviously.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Before the game.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Then it all kind of got washed away when mccal
bridges hit that overtime three at the buzzer to give
Nicks to win. But not all good in Gotham right now?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
You know this is the mo on Tibbs and Thibodeau
is just he grinds out players overplays them. You know me,
I'm all about people players should play or whatever, but
that doesn't mean you have to play the entire game.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
And last year is a perfect example.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
When all their guys were banged up and they had
a Game seven at Madison Square Garden, Brunton was heard
and a number of other players and they got worn
down and they wind up losing the game seven and
the Pacers advance right in a series that start at
the outset. You thought the Knicks would definitely win and
be going right with a chance to go to the
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Eastern Conference Finals, and it didn't happen. And I'll say this,
barring getting to the NBA Finals, the Knicks should really
rethink TIBs as the coach and maybe it is time
to move on and I really believe that. Yeah, because
he doesn't win anything is this.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Is who he is. He hasn't won anything. He has
great regular seasons.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You look at what he was doing for a couple
of years, two three years with the Bulls. He obviously
has had a couple of good years with the Knicks.
He does this where guys play hard for him. He
gets in the compete and they do. But man, you
gotta be playing for the long haul, right. I'm not
saying load management and guys miss games because they have
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a day of rest, but the idea because I love
the messenger. This is coming from Michael Bridges, Who's not
a guy who wants to sit out, not a guy
who wants to load manage. In fact, he has the
current longest street rock of games. He's the iron Man
of the NBA two and twenty game. He wants to play.
He wants to play. This ain't a guy we're all here.
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He goes the game, wants to find a night out,
you know, not off, not when you play seven straight seasons.
Yeah you're playing, But the point is you don't have
to burn me out. There are moments and circumstances we
see it. There's times when and you know this because
you watch close where Lebron shouldn't be in the game
in the fourth court and this is just you go.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Why is he playing it? Since either way up or down?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Up tire down twenty.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
But that just makes no sense where you should monitor
that and be like, yes, the bench is playing fine,
we're up by twenty in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Let's get these guys.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I'll get them a blow and we'll be ready for
the next game, or or we'll save those minutes for
the postseason. Because for real, and depending on what happened,
I don't think that they're better than they were a
year ago. I really don't even know. Kat's been tremendous.
I just think so many other teams in the East
have improved. Yeah, and particularly Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
And another portion of this is TIMPs never develops the
depth of a bench because guys don't play, so they
don't find continuity.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I mean, you know how bad it is for a
guy like Michel.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Bridges to have to call you out like he's not
a talking kind of guy. In fact, rob Z, would
you even know his voice if I just played a sound?
That's the point.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
None of us like, who is that he's not a complainer.
He's a hard worker.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It was hard work in college, a champion in college,
hard worker in the league, plays hard, one of those
guys you'd like on your team. And for him to
go public, this wasn't somebody caught him on the Instagram,
live on the loan in the background. This is him
going public with this.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Then he knows he's talking to a reporter from the
New York firstly, like I've had guy say stuff to
me and I'll say, you know, you know, you know
I'm writing this.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Right, you know what you're saying the way you're saying
it to.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Right, I'm writing this, okay. I just want to make
sure because okay.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And that's his way of saying. And this to me
reads ass yoyo tips. You know, maybe I'll give me
a little little break a livery now and again yoyo tips.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Sham. It's on fire right now.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like he said in any article or the piece, why
don't give a keep let him kee him out there.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
He's hot right now, ao tips.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
This is that last effort, like, all right, if he's
not listening to me, then I'm gonna have to go
public with this.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
And he did, and like you, there's nothing new.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
This has been the MF tips and at some point
you would think he would actually maybe listen to take
note when you got guys going, especially an iron man
of the league, complaining there's some issues.
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But first let me welcome in my partner. He is
Elvin Washington. Man, what's happening good?
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I'm looking at Alex right now since it's Tyson Tower
or Trivia coming up in a little bit, and I'll
tell you what. Look at my look at the joy
it brings. Manzi whatever what you hating on me last time?
Speaker 2 (02:19):
Monty?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
We used to be cool, but I don't know I'm
messaging hating you on the game or hating for not
having a key card to get in. No, first of all, snitches,
get you know what's okay?
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I mean? And you it's in my car and you
over here cheering and booing my clues last week.
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Okay, so I got beef with you, but I was
not good. They're not good in fact.
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I'm okay, I can admit that. But Alex, I like
the permout today, is what I'm saying. I like that,
the little blowout, Yeah, you got the blowout.
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Anything else looked different about me?
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I can't see from here. I can't really see.
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From here that's gonna hurt ful. I worked out today, No.
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Okay, you get the guns out and the glass. I
couldn't really see that. Yes, shake got some more working.
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Out to do.
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But good to be here, good to be here, ready
to do it?
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Man?
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And yes, Elijah is our social media guru. Yes, let's
start here. College basketball March madness is uh? Uh selection
Sunday is this Sunday? And uh there's news about Cooper Flag.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Yeah, and it's not good news.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
No, I mean he's literally the star right now. You
can say the face keeping college basketball for men live
or the how good is he how's good is Duke?
Could he do in the league? Will he be that
great in the NBA? And so all of a sudden
he's down. Rob g Uh tell us a little bit
more about this ankle injury. Yeah, if you saw the video,
it was all bad.
Speaker 7 (03:56):
You know.
Speaker 8 (03:56):
He went up for a rebound, came down on somebody's
foot and immediately went down in pain. He had to
have teammates carry him off the floor. He gets to
the sideline, He's immediately put in a wheelchair. They wheel
him to the back. If you saw the video and
the still shot of his ankle, it looked like a grapefruit.
I mean it is swollen. Immediately he goes to the back,
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they retape him, and to his credit, he came back
to the silnce, didn't stay in the back, stood with
his team. Obviously, wasn't walking, wasn't movie immediately ruled out
after the game, He's ruled out at least for the
rest of the ACC tournament to be determined on his
future for March Madness.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, I'm glad you said that that phrase you just
said there March madness, because that's what we all look
forward to. A lot of people even take the day off,
the first day or two. They're all excited about it
because that's what it's about. It's about this, the brackets.
Your friends, got your wings going, you're excited about it.
If Cooper Flag goes out, it goes from March Madness
(04:54):
to March sadness, because he is this singular face of
college basketball. You know, it's the truth. March Madness will
be March sadage. You can't name four of you can't
even make a starting five, You can't name four other
players in college basketball. He has been the story. He
has been the face, and he has been the intrigue
and what people are watching to see. How will he
(05:15):
do in his first tournament? How will he stay at
dude because he doesn't want to go to the Charlotte
Hornets who might draft him? You know, will he ball
out and be a Carmelo Anthony type, go through your
freshman year, be the star, win a championship. He's what
everybody wants to see. And if he's out, and which
is why I think they are saying at least a tournament,
but not saying further because they don't want to lose
(05:36):
any juice of it.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Man.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
So this is big for college basketball. They don't have
many stars. The men's side, the opposite of the women's
They have a handful of stars, and they had a
hand even more last year. The college men's college basketball
doesn't have stars. They're not pumping them out like this,
and he is a face of it, and it'll be
very disappointing if he's not there, because whether you love
him or hate him, you'll watch. Whether you love or
hate Duke, you'll watch. And it's still an American pastime.
(06:00):
March madness will watch it. But that buzz, that entrigue
I think will be down some without him.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Rob.
Speaker 6 (06:05):
Yeah, I don't buy into that.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
I think he is the guy people want to watch
and are you know, looking at Duke or whatever as always,
But March Madness is bigger than that. It's about schools, alumni,
it's about people the first round.
Speaker 6 (06:22):
They're looking for an upset.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
They don't know most of the schools, small schools, they
don't know who the players are. People if they give
you a bracket, they're going by the color of their
uniform or what their mascot is.
Speaker 6 (06:33):
They don't know most we don't know most of the
guys here.
Speaker 5 (06:36):
It's not like the old days where guys played three
or four years.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Sure, we know who he.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Is, but the tournament is not gonna go away, or
people aren't gonna watch. They haven't been watching for years
because that the best players aren't in college basketball, they're
in the NBA. So we get that. But I don't think,
oh my god, and the tournament or don't watch because
Cooper flag Duke doesn't play every night and and people
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are still looking for upsets. People are looking to see
their school. If you're went to Saint John's and now
Rick Patino's there and now they got a good program,
there's interest there. What is Saint John's all about? There's
a lot of other stories there. Granted he's a star
part of it, but March Madness is bigger than just
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one guy with him maybe not playing.
Speaker 1 (07:23):
I don't disagree with that at all. I think this
is the fun part of it is seeing a Wichita state.
But I think it's just a crazy part we're at
because you recall, depending on your air right if you
want to go to the eighties, the nineties or the
two thousands early two thousands, Man March Madness has stars
on a lot of the teams you knew three to
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four to five of the players, and it was just
it was great and you always got.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
To see the small team.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
You didn't know the underdog that David to a David
and Goliath story. But it is just mind boggling to
me now how you just don't even know any of
the players. And it's just to me, That's what I
was thinking. When I saw Cooper Cooper go down. I
was like, man, you really don't like that's the guy.
You know, whether you see all the games, whether you
know you watch ten of the Duke's games, you at
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least knew him. You knew the Okay, here's that kid.
Let me see, everybody's been talking about him for two
or three years. Now you knew that. And end is
just interesting how far we've come from my era. You know,
if you want to say, like the Formidable years, the
nineties with the UNLV's the Fab fives, you can pick
any iteration of the Duke team to a North Carolina team,
to some of those North Carolina state teams with Wan Dickx,
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I mean in the early two thousands, like having a
run of knowing teams, knowing how they're built, knowing that
the rivalries.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
They don't like that guy. They don't like that guy,
that team.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's beef with that team that was part of the intrigue,
as well as the unknowns and the teams of small teams.
And it's just we've come a long way, rob where
we don't like that's it. It's your alum, you're an
alumni of a school, your alma maters playing or like
you said, it just I just want to see David
be Goliath, like there's no more or why know Rashid Wallace,
(08:59):
Jerry Stackow and cod and that you know those North
Carolina teams want to go up against them and ooh,
it's like you don't know anyone. And that's It's just
I was thinking, like how far we've come in that regard.
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Yeah, I mean, sure, do you want cooper a flag
to be there?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Sure you do.
Speaker 5 (09:15):
But I just think March madness is just about at
this point now and we've been through it for a
long time. This is not the old college basketball twenty
years ago. Plenty of people haven't gone to college to
play some of the biggest stars, or they've played had
a cup of coffee in the sweet role in college
because they were forced to.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
So I just think.
Speaker 5 (09:35):
People are like about faceless, nameless players, but they're looking
at uniforms at my Alma Mada in my school, and
it's a it's a reason to it's just a hangout
and have beer and chicken wings. And most of the
time they don't know who the players are. I've watched
the coverage. Some of the analysts doing this stuff doing
the college basketball don't know who the guys are.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
So how to I didn't say Shack.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
But yeah, you can't be mad at Shack. I mean,
because just nobody knows in this regard. And it's an excuse, right,
It's excuse to hang out by the water cooler at
your job. It's an excuse to go over to Bob's
you know station at your job. And because he's got
the computer going up with five or six different games.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
It's all fun. We all love it. Listen.
Speaker 1 (10:16):
It's just one of those things. That's why I said,
it's like an American pastime. We do this for a
few weeks every year. It's fun. But you lead to
another conversation too, just as far as the one and
done is this is it where you need to abolish it?
You need to just get rid of it and let
guys go straight to the league. Let guys who aren't
quite that good stay two three years and not be
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deemed you know, unsuccessful. You're are not that good, you
had to stay in college for two or three years, Like,
is it time to have that conversation again as we
you know, think about this and rehash this conversation based
off of again, Cooper Flag would have went straight to it.
He'd have been a number one pick, not even touching
the college basketball last year.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
Yeah, I know, I still to this day, you know
when they did that, But that's I'm blame the players.
Speaker 6 (11:01):
Players are signed off on that.
Speaker 5 (11:02):
There's no way you could be a tennis player at fourteen,
play golf, soccer, you could go You don't go to
college to play Major League baseball, you go straight to
the There's no reason they did that to try to
help the college game and the players selfishly not wanting
those guys to get paid. I just I can't believe
that they would sign off on that. You could go
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into the military and grab a gun. You can't play,
but you can't play basketball. I mean, come on, no
other place do you stop a prodigy? You don't stop.
If a fourteen year old girl can play at Carnegie Hall,
you don't go, oh no, you can't play it in fourteen, yeah, nineteen, yeah,
or whatever. I mean, it's it's ridiculous, and that the
idea that the union signed off. That was one of
(11:45):
the worst things I talk about the NFL players Union.
That was one of the worst moves by the NBA
Players Association.
Speaker 6 (11:53):
Just a terrible, terrible move, and it didn't need to happen.
Speaker 1 (11:57):
And it's not I mean football. You could argue, okay,
they're not big enough to not strong enough. You could
argue that, and I think most people will go, you
know what kind of makes sense.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
I mean, I don't even believe that because there are
prodigies and people who I'm with you on that, and
leave it to the general managers to say you had
physically you're not ready or you're.
Speaker 6 (12:17):
Not ready to play. Why can't they do that? You
don't have to make a rule.
Speaker 5 (12:21):
They're afraid that if you open that door and some
kid who's eighteen or nineteen and he's big and strong
and can play in the league, then you have a thing.
Now you're damaging college football. That's all of that, I know,
I to completely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
I was just saying, if you try to convince someone
because of the physicality, you can Now, okay, I can
kind of understand that NBA makes no sense.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
I mean, if you look at some of the best players.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
In the last thirty years, forty years, they all come
straight out of high school. I mean, Dwight Howard, Lebron
Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett. I mean, we can go down
the list. There's a bunch of guys who are really
and then someone say the.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Some weren't well.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
You know how many two three four year guys weren't
good either. So I'm totally with you. It makes no sense.
No other sport does it this way. If Steve Jobs
and Bill Gates want to start a big time company
in their garage at nineteen twenty, they can do that.
Nobody telling them you can't have a business until you're
twenty one. Completely as actually very un American, as far
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as from a capitalist standpoint, you know what I mean,
Who's gonna hold somebody back that can't can't get money
and do well for themselves and their family?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Doesn't make sense. So I'm totally with you on that.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
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eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, taking your call,
just about March Madness, Cooper Flag obviously out we don't
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know exactly how long with the ankle injury. I was
just saying, he's really the only name folks know, Rob saying,
folks still gonna watch.
Speaker 6 (14:51):
That's just a part of the nature of what we do.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
He's watched March Madness eight seven, seven niney nine on Fox.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
So we got Antonio in Miami. You're on the idd
couple Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (15:00):
Pay, what's up? Guys. I don't think I want to
touch on something Calvin said after, but real quick.
Speaker 9 (15:05):
About Black, I don't I think you're either into it
or you're not.
Speaker 7 (15:09):
And I don't think he's the face.
Speaker 9 (15:11):
I don't think Cole Bestball has the face of anything.
I don't think the NBA really even has a face.
So I would say, you know, for those that are
Duke fans, you know, sorry. But well to his other
point about I do miss the days in the mid
nineties or even before that, when they had great rivalry basketball.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
And I remember when you know the great, they.
Speaker 9 (15:37):
Would start the resume like Jabbar or Magic.
Speaker 7 (15:40):
They would start with the.
Speaker 9 (15:41):
Like the college championship that started.
Speaker 7 (15:44):
Then he got to the NBA Championship.
Speaker 9 (15:45):
So but no, I would have to I would have
to say that I would rather see them come in
at twenty one twenty two, and I know they have
the right to.
Speaker 7 (15:56):
I don't like the middle ground where they're saying you
got to stay, let them come in at eighteen, or
come in or find it polished, which would be better
for the NBA.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
But but Antonio, shouldn't that be that That should be
on the general managers, not on the kids.
Speaker 6 (16:10):
Don't draft the kid if he ain't ready. I don't.
I don't even know how to do it. You don't
have to.
Speaker 7 (16:16):
Draft him, Rob, it's just too much money involved.
Speaker 5 (16:19):
You're right, I know, but but it's ridiculous that they're
drafted unproving guys who aren't polished and shouldn't be in
the NBA. That and then you look around and go, oh,
well he didn't ban out and we gave millions.
Speaker 6 (16:30):
That's your fault, not the kid.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Completely agree. You don't have to take a high schooler.
He's not If he's not ready, he's not ready. We
like this other kid.
Speaker 6 (16:38):
Boom.
Speaker 5 (16:38):
Move on Alex in Spokane. You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 10 (16:42):
What's up Alex, Hey guys Thursday. I I want to
start off with the fact that you know the n
cua A, that's just a big money grab for them
to keep a kid in the league.
Speaker 6 (16:56):
That's all it is. That's all it is.
Speaker 10 (16:59):
It makes no sense. They do this so they can
make a year worth of un or yeah, exactly the
other part Televin. I hate to argue with you, but
the tournament is such a special thing, especially for people
like us and still can who we don't have any
professional teams. Gonzega is our team. Now we don't have
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a championship, but it's a fun ride. I go to
the tournament every year I get a chance to go
see it and just seeing the crowds show up, the
different people. It's just so entertaining watching GCU as a
twelve steed last year beat it a five seeds. Right,
There's just so much that goes into this tournament, the
one and done. You learn new names, you learn new people,
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you you understand the sport better. And it's just I mean,
we were purple to the game last year just to
support GCU because their fans were so exciting to watch.
Speaker 6 (17:52):
Yeah, yeah, and that's all.
Speaker 7 (17:56):
Yeah.
Speaker 10 (17:56):
I just don't think you can put the game into
one person's name.
Speaker 6 (18:00):
I think you're right.
Speaker 10 (18:02):
It's horrible to lose him, don't get me wrong. But
somebody will come out of the shadows in the next
two weeks and we will be talking about him just
as much as Cooper Flag.
Speaker 5 (18:11):
All right, Alex, great points, really, thank you appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
That larger point is just that it's crazy that it's
literally one guy that everybody knows, Like, I just.
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Think the tournament is just not the same. But I agree,
and here is like he said, spoke, that's what.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
They all they have. I agree.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
But my whole point is, like it used to be,
you got the benefit of the young upstart, some you know,
middling team, an unknown underdog, and you got the big
Dukes in North Carolina. You know what I mean, you
got the That's what made it amazing is having the couple,
the two of those things coupled together.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
Trey in Houston, You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports radio.
Speaker 6 (18:42):
What's up, Tray, You're so good? How you doing doing great?
Speaker 10 (18:46):
Well?
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Good brother, doing good?
Speaker 8 (18:48):
Man?
Speaker 7 (18:49):
I think yeah, man, it's kind of fun of the league.
Speaker 9 (18:53):
Man.
Speaker 10 (18:53):
As far as in college basketball, I mean, that's the
only name I've really.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
Been heard of.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Yeah, that's and that's sad that literally there's one name
you've heard of. And I'm assuming you're a college basketball
for at least a sports fan.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Do you have a team the school?
Speaker 5 (19:09):
Did you go to any of these schools that participate,
or just a fan of a college basketball team.
Speaker 10 (19:15):
I'm just a fan of the college basketball around this time, right.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
A lot of people, a lot of people are alumni
and whatnot, and they just want to see their team.
It doesn't matter who's playing.
Speaker 7 (19:26):
Yeah. And also, man, what was gonna start here around Elive? Man,
we got to be hearing about him sometimes.
Speaker 6 (19:31):
Yeah, we'll get them all, Alex. You hear that? Yes,
I know when you're gonna heard of Alive?
Speaker 7 (19:37):
You about them?
Speaker 2 (19:38):
I'm sorry, who were talking about the one dude does
the thing is stuff?
Speaker 6 (19:43):
Who's the call talking about the guy that does the stuff?
Oh that guy?
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
No, not you, yeah, you mean guy it fills in
for robbery.
Speaker 6 (19:51):
You that Elijah.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Okay, no, we're trying, Hey, trade, we tried.
Speaker 6 (19:59):
They're working on it, right, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (20:00):
All right, hey, real quick, let's get Drew in New
Jersey and you're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (20:06):
What's up, Drew?
Speaker 4 (20:08):
Hey, guys, I think that the NCAA. I don't say
the NCAA needs him, but I think the NBA. This
would be juice for it for the NBA if he
had a great March madness, especially coming in you have
a you know where there's a lot of uncertainty with
you know, Lebron getting old and that face of the
league kind of being a question mark. I do think
(20:31):
that had those two guys at Rutgers, you know, one
more games, I think you would hear more about Aast
Balley and Ron Harper Junior or whatever the guy's name is,
Ron Harperson, Who Ron Harper Senior? I mean if Draymond
Green is a Hall of Famer, I think Ron Harper
was two times the player Graymond Green ever was, and
he has five rings. So if we're talking about rings,
you know we're gonna put Raymond Green in the Hall
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of Fame, you should probably put Ron Harper is a.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Good point individual man. For man, Ron Harper was a
better player for sure. I get what you're saying with that. Uh,
that's true stuff. Good called. Appreciate you man all right. More,
we got some talk about bracketing. Bracketing, I say, and
where teams are gonna rank with Cooper flag out, there's
an idea of how Duke is handling is how the
NCAA is handling this. Rob has a thought on that.
(21:14):
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Speaker 5 (21:48):
Also, before we move on to the college basketball and flags,
injury and Impact, just some quick thoughts on John Feinstein,
who passed away. Well, Washington Post columnists, I was unaware. Yeah,
you know, wrote like forty five books, an unbelievable writer,
(22:10):
and he passed away today, sixty nine years old.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
They say natural causes is what they're saying. So att yeah, early,
but I guess.
Speaker 5 (22:20):
Yeah, something can give out a fail or whatever. But
natural causes what they're saying. But he's a big loss.
He was a big part of college basketball. He wrote
a lot of books. I think one of his biggest
books was about Duke.
Speaker 2 (22:32):
You know.
Speaker 5 (22:32):
So John Feinstein dead at age sixty nine. I know
he had a radio show and he's a Washington Post
columnist for a long time. I think, you know, did
some stuff at ESPN and other stuff. But just wanted
to get that in love and prayers to John Feinstein's
family with the loss of one of the most prolific
sports writers that we've had.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah, and one of them looking at it now. To
Season on the Brink was his first one. One of
his first New York Times bestsellers, chronicled the eighty five
six Ina University basketball team. You mentioned Coyleg's basketball, So
he has got a handful of those two.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Yeah, man, rest in peace.
Speaker 5 (23:05):
No doubt, all right, flags injury and whether or not
it has any impact. I mean there's some rumors stuff
floating around that, Okay, he doesn't play in the ACC tournament.
But if he doesn't play, you know, uh selection Sunday, Sunday,
it's coming Sunday. So after the ACC tournament, if they
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don't think he's playing, I don't know how you could
affect the team's ranking, like just because he's not there.
I think that would be totally unfair. If they have
the best record and one of the best four records
to lead, why in the world would you change it
because he's not gonna play, or even the idea of it.
(23:48):
I mean, I don't think that they can definitively say
he won't play under any circumstance anything break his leg
or something like that, or have an injury of that ILK.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I don't know why they would.
Speaker 5 (23:57):
Would penalize Douk as a whole considering what they did
all year. It shouldn't it be about the team and
about the record.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Yeah, you're one hundred percent right, It's about what we
did to get to this point, because after that point
anything can happen. Right, injuries can happen, a coach just
has a bad game, coach gets ill. I mean, there's
a million things that could happen after this. But it's
all the work, the whole collective, the team put in
to get us to this point, to have hopefully possibly
(24:25):
in their minds, the easiest route to get to the
final four or the least challenging route to get there.
So yeah, all of a sudden have revision is history
because the guy might not be fully healthy. It's not fair,
it's not and again it goes against what it's supposed
to be about. Right, it's supposed to be about amateurism
and putting all integrity and you're playing your hardest, and
you know, you use a meritocracy. What you put in,
(24:47):
you're gonna get out and all that kind of stuff.
And to not do that, to me, goes against the
It poses all of those things. Duke did what they're
supposed to do. All the guys play hard. If they
were to be outs in the first round, that's just
what would happen. But you're supposed to give them the
opportunity to compete where they're supposed to be for all
the work they did. The other thirty semi games.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Yeah, and it's not just him. I mean, that would
be unfair to just look at him. There are other
players on.
Speaker 6 (25:12):
The team, got great players. Do call on that kind
of stuff?
Speaker 5 (25:15):
And then what would you do if you know you
don't You don't change where you are as far as
being at the top of a bracket. If somebody gets
hurt during the tournament, do you go like, Okay, well
you don't have your best player.
Speaker 6 (25:27):
Now we're gonna drop this right. You don't have a
selection Thursday now right. It just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 5 (25:33):
So I think I get the impact, and I guess
you know, it happened in college football, which is kind
of weird uh and circumstances. I just think it's unfair
to the rest of the team. Uh And and hopefully
it won't affect where they rank and they should get
a number one seeds as scheduled.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Yeah, it shouldn't happen in either sport. But I think
it's even more of a reason it shouldn't happen in
basketball because there's other guys, Like if you're Louisville and
you had Lamar Jackson and he was just all World
Heisman guy, he goes down, I could see there shouldn't be.
But I could see why they say, all right, this
is this is different. Louisville's chances have now changing college
football playoffs. So I don't know, but they shouldn't be.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
But but you had to get that record to get there,
and everybody contribute.
Speaker 6 (26:19):
I'm completely in agreement.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
But my only point I was saying, especially in college
basketball where it with a duke team like dude, they
have other guys that can hold it down and make
a run for a week and week and a half
until he would have been back, or even if he
weren't to be back, that they've earned that spot.
Speaker 6 (26:32):
So yeah, it doesn't make any sense to me. I
go back to what you said.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
I agree, they've earned the right to simply be where
they're supposed to be, and you can't take that from
him because of an injury.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
That makes no sense.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
It's going to be very very interesting just to see
and whether or not. You know, I think Flag should
play if he's healthy. If he's hurt, I would not
rush back. I wouldn't do anything crazy, you know. I
remember we had this big controversy with Ion Williamson when
he got hurt and blew out a sneaker and all that,
(27:04):
and people were telling them, oh, you're gonna be the
first pick.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Don't play again. You don't need to play.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And I'm like, dude, if you're twenty years old, you
don't want to play, something's wrong with that. If you're healthy,
if you're healthy, I'm the first one to raise my hand.
If you're not healthy, don't play. But if you're healthy,
why wouldn't you play. If you don't play at nineteen
and twenty, when are you playing thirty seven years old?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
I got it right at that point, like, nah, broh,
go ahead, go the only I'm I always am a
big believer in that.
Speaker 6 (27:35):
But the flip.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Side of that would be when people don't want people
to play in ball games, they'll.
Speaker 6 (27:43):
Say, ah, perfectly fine, I just don't want to ball.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
Come to be a TOI, because you see, that's different
from the standpoint of you can get hurt and it
damages what's going to happen for your future.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
But that's why they would say the same thing. In
the tournament, I'm zion, but what if I twist my ankle?
But the tournament is different.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
Most of the bowl games that people they don't sit
out if you're in the college football playoff and have
a chance to win a national chance.
Speaker 6 (28:10):
Now, if somebody did that, I would question them.
Speaker 5 (28:12):
If the top quarterback is playing for Alabama or one
of these schools and they decide, well, I'm going to
high in the draft, I'm not going to play in
the championship game. I don't want that guy. But if
you're telling me it be playing in a meaningless bowl
game that has no ramifications. I'm not winning anything that game.
I'm not playing it. And football is different from basketball
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because football you can literally get hurt on every snap.
It's just a big difference.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Will I'm a big fan of playing man because to
as much as the ultimate goal is getting to the pros,
whatever the sport is, it's also, dude, you get to
have a full life and hopefully Lord willing and so
if you can have that experience, if your Cooper flag
or in a case you brought up Zion, you got
to play in a tournament, you know you're going to
the league, you get drafted to the league, you have
your NBA career. Like to me, that's just adding on
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to the richness of your life experiences of your life,
and if you get an opportunity, and especially you're a Zion,
a Cooper Flag or these type of guys, even if
you get injured, you're still gonna get drafted. Kyrie Irving
blew his was it knee out in college? Only played
like six games. Maybe we're still the number one pick.
Like when you're that guy, you're gonna be that guy,
you know, especially in college basketball where they identify, oh,
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you're the number one pick. So go ahead and have
fullness of life, get your march madness on in, get
to go to the pros and have some fun and
for as long as your career lasts as well, cause
these are an experience, and that's sometimes we forget. We're
always talking to get to the money, but sometimes just
sometimes these experiences matter equally as much as the money
of the brand too.
Speaker 6 (29:41):
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Speaker 3 (31:14):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parkers
Daily dicks against the scrap.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
All right, a little Shekel City yesterday one and two.
That takes my record down cool Man to sixty six
and sixty seven.
Speaker 6 (31:38):
Yay, thanks Lebron. All Right, here we go tonight, when
we got we got the best bet.
Speaker 5 (31:45):
I'm taking the Magic minus two and a half in
New Orleans, Magic minus two and a half.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Okay, like it.
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Also have Brooklyn plus one and a half in Chicago.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
They've played better on Lake.
Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I mean they're competing.
Speaker 5 (31:59):
They all compete night and they don't win every night
or whatever anything, but they compete.
Speaker 2 (32:03):
And take Naith Jordan's bulls.
Speaker 6 (32:05):
No, Brooklyn plus one and a half.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
And I'm gonna take the Kings plus seven and a
half at San Francisco taking on Golden State Sacramento plus
seven and a half, Orlando minus two and a half
and Brooklyn plus one and a half.
Speaker 6 (32:21):
And remember, Calvin, what's that I'm not telling you who
to bet on. I'm telling you who I better give
me the money shot all all day bounce back.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
I'm looking forward to your bounce back man, Rob g Man,
what's going on with the Knicks right now? Where we
got we got some drama going on with Tips and
there was a.
Speaker 8 (32:40):
Lot of drama yesterday. Shout out Jason Smith. He came
in here upset yesterday.
Speaker 6 (32:44):
Oh what shock? Or upset about a New York team?
Speaker 2 (32:47):
That's right.
Speaker 8 (32:48):
So before the game yesterday, mcal Bridges went viral for
any media with the New York Post where he basically said,
I'd prefer not to be playing thirty eight thirty nine
minutes game. You know, but this is part of who
TIBs is. He likes to play his guys and I
told him hey, or he says, my opinion is because
it is very clear that he didn't actually tell Tims this.
(33:09):
He said, if the bench is playing good, or we
feel like ladr Shanmick gives some good minutes, let him
play some good minutes. You don't need to play the
starters as long as you do so before the game, TIBs,
that's about, you know. The TIBs is like, well, hey,
Jalen Brunton, a cat, don't play too many minutes. It's
just heart Ananobi and mcaley because they're wings and all
the best players of wings. I gotta have my best
(33:30):
defenders in there, and so there was some tension obviously.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Before the game.
Speaker 8 (33:34):
Then it all kind of got washed away when mccal
bridges hit that overtime three at the buzzer to give
Nicks to win. But not all good in Gotham right now?
Speaker 5 (33:42):
You know this is the mo on Tibbs and Thibodeau
is just he grinds out players overplays them. You know me,
I'm all about people players should play or whatever, but
that doesn't mean you have to play the entire game.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
And last year is a perfect example.
Speaker 5 (34:00):
When all their guys were banged up and they had
a Game seven at Madison Square Garden, Brunton was heard
and a number of other players and they got worn
down and they wind up losing the game seven and
the Pacers advance right in a series that start at
the outset. You thought the Knicks would definitely win and
be going right with a chance to go to the
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Eastern Conference Finals, and it didn't happen. And I'll say this,
barring getting to the NBA Finals, the Knicks should really
rethink TIBs as the coach and maybe it is time
to move on and I really believe that. Yeah, because
he doesn't win anything is this.
Speaker 6 (34:41):
Is who he is. He hasn't won anything. He has
great regular seasons.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
You look at what he was doing for a couple
of years, two three years with the Bulls. He obviously
has had a couple of good years with the Knicks.
He does this where guys play hard for him. He
gets in the compete and they do. But man, you
gotta be playing for the long haul, right. I'm not
saying load management and guys miss games because they have
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a day of rest, but the idea because I love
the messenger. This is coming from Michael Bridges, Who's not
a guy who wants to sit out, not a guy
who wants to load manage. In fact, he has the
current longest street rock of games. He's the iron Man
of the NBA two and twenty game. He wants to play.
He wants to play. This ain't a guy we're all here.
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He goes the game, wants to find a night out,
you know, not off, not when you play seven straight seasons.
Yeah you're playing, But the point is you don't have
to burn me out. There are moments and circumstances we
see it. There's times when and you know this because
you watch close where Lebron shouldn't be in the game
in the fourth court and this is just you go.
Speaker 6 (35:48):
Why is he playing it? Since either way up or down?
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Up tire down twenty.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
But that just makes no sense where you should monitor
that and be like, yes, the bench is playing fine,
we're up by twenty in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 6 (35:59):
Let's get these guys.
Speaker 5 (36:00):
I'll get them a blow and we'll be ready for
the next game, or or we'll save those minutes for
the postseason. Because for real, and depending on what happened,
I don't think that they're better than they were a
year ago. I really don't even know. Kat's been tremendous.
I just think so many other teams in the East
have improved. Yeah, and particularly Cleveland.
Speaker 1 (36:19):
And another portion of this is TIMPs never develops the
depth of a bench because guys don't play, so they
don't find continuity.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
I mean, you know how bad it is for a
guy like Michel.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Bridges to have to call you out like he's not
a talking kind of guy. In fact, rob Z, would
you even know his voice if I just played a sound?
That's the point.
Speaker 6 (36:37):
None of us like, who is that he's not a complainer.
He's a hard worker.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
It was hard work in college, a champion in college,
hard worker in the league, plays hard, one of those
guys you'd like on your team. And for him to
go public, this wasn't somebody caught him on the Instagram,
live on the loan in the background. This is him
going public with this.
Speaker 5 (36:54):
Then he knows he's talking to a reporter from the
New York firstly, like I've had guy say stuff to
me and I'll say, you know, you know, you know
I'm writing this.
Speaker 6 (37:04):
Right, you know what you're saying the way you're saying
it to.
Speaker 5 (37:06):
Right, I'm writing this, okay. I just want to make
sure because okay.
Speaker 1 (37:10):
And that's his way of saying. And this to me
reads ass yoyo tips. You know, maybe I'll give me
a little little break a livery now and again yoyo tips.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Sham. It's on fire right now.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like he said in any article or the piece, why
don't give a keep let him kee him out there.
Speaker 6 (37:24):
He's hot right now, ao tips.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
This is that last effort, like, all right, if he's
not listening to me, then I'm gonna have to go
public with this.
Speaker 6 (37:31):
And he did, and like you, there's nothing new.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
This has been the MF tips and at some point
you would think he would actually maybe listen to take
note when you got guys going, especially an iron man
of the league, complaining there's some issues.
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