September 10, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether Dan Campbell is starting to already crack under the pressure of expectations in Detroit without his two all-star coordinators in tow, tell us why the NBA is privately hoping that they don’t find a smoking gun tied to Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers salary cap circumvention, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, ‘Straight Facts Homie’ on YouTube host Trey Wingo swings by to discuss whether Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh could be on the hot seat this season, why the idea of a ‘building a culture’ is a tad overrated in the NFL, whether the Chicago Bears fans are right to be worried about Caleb Williams, and much more!
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I'm good?
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How are you?
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I try not to talk to update people because usually
I get in trouble and they hate me at some point.
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Stop it.
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So, Brie, I just wanted to say, hello, this is
the last time you ever.
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Hear me talk to you. He's telling the truth on
that last you know.
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Once you crossed me, Brie, it's over.
Speaker 9 (03:40):
I love you.
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Though I thought we're good, we're good. I'm just saying
other people.
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Is there a list at home? Like come home the
cross me? Rob list check this personally? Is there a list?
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Were We're glad to have you here on the Odd Couple?
And of course Elijah, Elijah.
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He's right there.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
I was social media group who's been doing like what
a great job getting this whole us being on YouTube
live for real, Elijah, Like, I'm looking at the stuff,
like if I wasn't on the show, i'd be watching
the show now when I'm off and Kelvin is doing
it with somebody I'm not watching.
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But I'm just saying, but I would be mad if
you go enjoy vacation. Yeah, I wouldn't watch, you know,
because you know I ain't watching you. That's I don't
expect you to, you know, anyway, as long as.
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The people who are watching on YouTube, and those people
are watching and listening, that's all we care.
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We don't have to ride rock with each other.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
And I'm gonna say, Alex, I sent you a message today.
I was really you know, I'm just real quick pull
a curtain back sometimes, you know, I get a little
worked up. I know your wife doesn't listen to the
show because she hates when I yell and stuff, and
your mom turns it off in Michigan because she can't
stand me. Who's yelling at my baby? No no, no, I
get it. And your kids hate me. Why my family
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hate you?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
They do? And when I go, I don't even know.
I didn't get the memo.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Bree and what not. And when I go to church,
they'll probably do something crazy.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
No, they will be say, how did that? That's what
on the worship Wednesday?
Speaker 2 (05:08):
In fact, But Alex, you know I'm passionate, and I
got a nice messure to the guy sent to was
that that was on the YouTube? You know, the comments
basically just said I made his day. He had a
really bad day. And he turns on the radio and
there I am yelling and screaming at the top of
my lungs, and he just said, man, I came for that,
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Thank you. It made it, just made my day. I
was yelling at you, So you.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Are really yelling, yelling yesterday. In fact, I'm disappointed in
you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No, Yesterday was fine.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I thought you were.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Gonna bring it some more on Monday. I was disappointed. No,
matter of fact, we had it Monday. I was disappointed.
Don't wish for magic city Monday. Tell me show him
my butt Monday. You said it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
I showed it, and it was you made it show
one hit. You didn't even commit to it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You didn't fooling like you act like you were about
to bree I thought he was about.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
To bring it. How about now, Rob G. Dan Campbell
affects your You might know by me as Dan gamble.
He lost that he's lost big games for the Lions
in which they should have been able to advance to
the super Bowl by now. But he had a statement
today Rob g in a little news conference.
Speaker 10 (06:22):
Yeah, it sounds like he is well aware of the
numbers because according to CBS Sports, only twenty five percent
of the teams in the NFL that start oh to
one end up reaching the playoffs. This goes back to
nineteen ninety That's unbelievable. Really, teams that start owing to
though Rob Calvin make the playoffs just twelve percent of
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the time, and that might be a big reason why
Dan Campbell, when he was speaking with the media today
ahead of their matchup with Ben Johnson Chicago Bears, basically
called this game a must win.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Take a listen. Ben's my friend.
Speaker 11 (06:58):
He's always going to be my friend. You know, nothing
about that's going to change. You know, we're going in
getting ready to play Chicago. We're going to win this game.
You know we have to.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We have to. Wow, He's saying that they have to.
Week two against the Bears is a must win, and
I kind of you know it sounds crazy, but Campbell
I think has figured it out. He doesn't have his
security blanket anymore, which were those two coordinators. And I
think he'll be exposed as we go forward with this
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season that the reason he had the success that he's
had isn't because of his culture building. It's because he
had two really good coordinators who wind up getting head
coaching jobs because of what they did. Dan Campbell's not
the offensive guy, defensive guy. He's not either of those guys.
He's a raw ra guy. And the problem is when
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you're a raw ra guy, that sounds good when you're
winning and people can say, oh, he changed the culture.
I run through a wall for Dan Campbell. That's easy
to say when you're winning and you're undefeated on the
road and you win fifteen games and all that. But
as soon as you start to get pushed around like
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a rag doll like we saw, or have a vanilla
vanilla bean offense that we saw in Green Bay, things change,
things tighten up. I am convinced that Ben Johnson will
pull off the upset beat the Lions in Week two.
(08:35):
Have you seen the schedule, Kelvin, Have you seen the
schedule and I know you talked about it yesterday. I'm
ready to make that bet with you that the fo
a pair of Jordans, that the Lions won't make the playoffs. Okay, done,
all right, we got that mark that down. I'm ready
to make that bet because after this, if you take
a look at the schedule, they gotta go to Baltimore,
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they play Kansas City. They have a daunting schedule, and
they better win against Chicago because if they don't, there's
probably only one game out of the first six that
they would win, and that's against Cleveland. They're on the
road against the Chiefs. Rob g. What's the other tough
road game they got. I know they got the oh,
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the Bengals on the road and the Chiefs back to back,
and they also have to play the Ravens. Those are
three tough games on the road. You gotta win Bears
at home and the Browns at home? Correct? I think
that that so? So you got. That's why he's already
talking in this term of we're gonna win or we
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have to win, because he understands where they are and
Ben Johnson knows that team left and right and knows
what works and what doesn't work. He's going to have
an advantage in mapping out this game against the Lions,
and I believe the Bears will pull the upset, send
the Lions to zero and two, and Dan Gamble will
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be that it wasn't him, it was Ben Johnson and
Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't agree with that absolutely. Ben Johnson played a
massive prole. He's phenomenal as an offensive coordinator, and Aaron
Glenn was a really good defensive coordinator. Where I disagree
with you is a couple of things. One, Dan Campbell,
you're acting like he came right into a winning situation.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
He went.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You spent time in Detroit, a putrick culture, a team,
a culture, an organization that ain't won jack, that wasn't
doing jack.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It wasn't headed in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So it wasn't like he came into winning and then
he just had this sustainability.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
What he came into was the.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
First year they went three and thirteen, but they did
not fold the next year nine and eight.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And remember they started off like one in five or
six or something. I don't want to stop you. Ben
Johnson was the offensive coordinators first year.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I don't know how fun it goes back.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No no, he was not good, dude.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
That was clearly not the point.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
The point they ain't go to three to thirteen, they
go to nine and eight, they go to twelve and five,
and then obviously fifteen to two.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
And the reason why they got better.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You can great you know, hony teams that have great
coordinators and don't do jack with them, and then we
see the coordinator go somewhere else and we're like, oh,
I guess he was a pretty good coordinator because he
created a Brad Holmes First, let me start there. The
general manager brought in the right guy and Dan Campbell
who they collectively bring in the right guys a coordinator
and create a culture and draft well.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Drafting well is probably.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Gonna end up biting them in the butt in the
next couple of years because they've got have to pay
a bunch of really good young guys between the end
of the season and next season. And to me, they
they've drafted well, built well, developed well and they have
a great system going. You look, you talk about baseball,
you like baseball. They got a great farm system going
where the guys they draft, they develop and they become
very useful on the football field. And they have a
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grit about them that they bounce back and they continue
to compete. They could have folded after the NFC Championship
game against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
They didn't. They came back and got better of injuries.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They end up losing in the postseason, but this team
continues to fight and confinued.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
How do you get better when you don't go to
where you were? You in the NFC Championship game, you
took a step back?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Great question, didn't he went to fifteen and two and
they had seven defensive starters out?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Did they lose because of that? They were nine and
a half point favorite? Is the favorite? I don't have
seven that. That's not why.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's why they got switched. That's Swiss Chiefs and Jared
it's not so. My point is you're giving them an out.
Why you appreciate it? No, I'm telling you that they
had nothing to do with the defense, had a quarterback
who had four What are you going to win?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So they are you're done? The lost? Are you done?
Speaker 11 (12:41):
Great?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So they lost the one game there. My point was
they continue to improve. They go from twelve to fifteen. So, yes,
they lost a horrible game in the postseason. Happens.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know who has lost a horrible game in the
Super Bowl, the Chiefs, it happens.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
My point is this team continues to go that one
difference between the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
And to you it don't matter.
Speaker 11 (13:00):
They got.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
One super Lions haven't even been.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That matters in the past. No, it's not my whole point.
So my whole point is they continue to fight. So
absolutely this is a must win for them because it's
not just the los the What.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Do you say if they lose the game to the
Bear then, now what would be your compensation?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
They absolutely still have a chance to make the postseason.
We set up here last year, you and I talking
about the Ravens, not the Ravens. But they are exactly
like the Ring. They've exactly been like the if not
better the last Rave.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
No they haven't. No, the Ravens have a better team
than the not even questions. So one quarterback has won
multiple m v p s and the other one has
it And what has he done with has got?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Has he got exact same gotten to.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The same place one organization has got another one is
not talking about this team. I'm talking about the Lions.
Don't ask me a question. I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
What I'm saying is they haven't oppert And the reason
why this game matters, and the reason why this game
matters is because it's a divisional game as well. So
you don't want to go into and have everybody in
your division have a win except you. So absolutely it's
a must win because it's not just you're not playing
the Panthers, you're playing another team in your division who
every team will have a win if you don't. You
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don't want to start like that down in the division,
especially when the Packers look like they're going to be
really good, Vikings still out there to be determined how
good they'll be, and the Bears look like they should
be better than they were last year. So absolutely, Dan
Campbell's approach and he bought equity, has equity with his
team that he can push these these buttons with them,
He can get them round up because he has the
equity with this unit.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, is Dan Campbell
already feeling the pressure in Detroit? Is he about to
get exposed by Ben Johnson and the Bears on Sunday?
Will continue that conversation next with you. This will be
interesting eight, seven, seven ninety nine on Fox It is
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Speaker 11 (16:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Rob and I talking about Dan Campbell who said it's
a must win for the Lions. Do you feel he's
under pressure right now? Do you feel like it is
a must win for the Lions? Will he get exposed?
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox to take some
phone calls?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Who we got him? And Alex I wanted a little passion.
What happened to that?
Speaker 11 (17:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Pass?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, are you pupping?
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Antony's calls? Who we got?
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All right, let's go. Uh, let's see Casey in Oregon.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up,
Casey Swing?
Speaker 12 (17:26):
I'm sorry, Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
All good? How are you? Casey?
Speaker 7 (17:32):
I'm all right?
Speaker 13 (17:33):
So far a country but yeah, you know so uh anyway,
uh yeah, for this weekend, I actually think, uh, the
Lions are gonna have talent the Bears. But I agree
with you Ross for the long term, I don't see
the Lions in the playoffs with losing Aaron Glenna Ben Johnson.
(17:54):
Those are two big coordinator lost it.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I think it's it's huge and I think people
know about it. I'm not the only one who don't
have the lines making the playoff. Thanks for the call.
There are a lot of people, more people than you
would think, on that bandwagon because they know the importance
of losing guys like that when they both get head coaching.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Job, that's a lot and also there that should be
a good division.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Lou in Allentown on pennsyl Tucky. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Blue Hell? You doing good?
How are you very good?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
You're gonna be a little short of money because you're
going to be getting missed to watching. Jordan's all right,
tell what it is? One game, one game for the
Lions and they lost team. He also said that, uh,
what's that Daniel Jones for the Colt You said he's
he's a bomb.
Speaker 11 (18:51):
He is.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
One game.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I don't care that one game he's a bum. He's
got plenty of uh career low lights for me to
call him a bomb. I don't believe in Daniel Jones.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well, Dan Dan Campbell ain't a bomb. He's He's risen
every year.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Is that right? They were thirty They went the Yeah,
I figured that I heard you say, Well, I figured
you were Lions slappy. But it's okay, Lou. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Lo Hey, Lou, you don't worry. You ain't wrong when
you're right. Don't worry about it, Lou, Lou. He's picked
bad football teams too.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Kyle in Florida, you're on the yard couple of Fox
Sports radio.
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Did you get that outside?
Speaker 1 (19:33):
Was that the the advertised big little Big Loue?
Speaker 2 (19:35):
He's big bad football teams. He's big bad football teams.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I don't like Big Loue. Big lou got people out
here feeling like, now you know what. Yeah, I'm on
mad side. I'm on my seventeenth Mary marriage. Kyle and Florida.
Speaker 2 (19:47):
You're in the yard couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Man?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (19:53):
I'm good?
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Last time I got in here, you were yelling at
me because.
Speaker 11 (19:56):
I was shouting out your door.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But did on Sunday? How does your door do?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
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Speaker 7 (20:04):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He didn't playing?
Speaker 11 (20:05):
Okay, they're good. He was rapping up. He's gonna get
out there, so nowhere.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, nowhere about he out there anyway?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah, Gamble getting I'm sure Gamble does feel pressure. Any
good coach, any good player feels pressure to win, regardless
if they want to make it to the playoffs. They
should feel the same type of pressure every single game,
regardless if they're coming off with a loss.
Speaker 12 (20:31):
Or a win.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
So and and players players love to play for coaches
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quarterback crumbles second half the same way he did the
last game, is going to happen to him again, and the.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
Lines are going to be.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
He gonna try to block you when when the line's winning,
he gonna block you. Hey, it'll make your Kyle done call.
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Right, all exactly right, exactly right.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Congrats bro, very good.
Speaker 11 (22:51):
Hey you all right.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
I do want to talk about the Lions. Of course,
losing the two cords. They got their butts kicked in
Green Bay. They really did. It didn't look good. I
don't have them making the playoffs. Try. I just want
you to know, where are you on the Lions? And
they got a really tough schedule and no coordinators or
(23:14):
new coordinators I should say both in the building. I
didn't like the idea that they didn't go out and
find the best available and just you know, promoted with
Then where are you on the Lions and their expectations?
Speaker 12 (23:26):
Yeah, listen, I think the lines the last couple of
years do in a great job with something called expectations,
as you alluded to, you know, but now they've got.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
To deal with erosion.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
And that's what happens when you make the playoffs multiple
years in a row. People come take your players, and
they come take your coaches and and you know, you
can go look at the numbers. Jared goff as a
starting quarterback without Sean McVeigh and without Ben Johnson not good.
So I'm not saying Jared's not a good player. I'm
saying they've got to find a rhythm with him. It's
a real telling test this week is the Bears come
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to town after that debacle Monday night, and the debacle
for the Lions have won ten straight games following a loss.
That's the longest active streak in the NFL. So somehow
Chicago goes in there and finds a way as Ben
Johnson comes into his old place to steal a win.
That's hugely problematic for Detroit. Listen, I think Detroit can
(24:18):
still make the playoffs, but I think a ten or
eleven win season is about the max for them this year.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's fair, and I can understand that you lose coordinators obviously,
some players and offensive line too.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
That's another whole thing. Yes, fair, Yeah, that's finally what.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
You just think it was huge. You know, their offensive
line last year was together basically the entire season, and
they've lost basically through injury or retirement, three fs retirement,
three fits to that offensive line. That's going to be
a huge thing for them. To work with throughout the season.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I agree, that's one of the things they got to fix.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
More.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That makes me worry, to be honest with you, even
more so the coordinators, because if they can't run the ball,
that's going to be difficult. Let's go to this, let's stay,
let's stay in this game, this matchup. Let's go to
week one. We see Caleb Williams, when we see obviously
Ben Johnson bold debuting right the debuting with my new
head coach and me debuting as a coach with my
star quarterback or should maybe potentially star quarterback, would you
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make of week one for them?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Kind of a tail that you have?
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Yeah, listen, there's no way to slice it.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
It's not great for Caleb.
Speaker 12 (25:19):
You know, they came out of that first drive. They
looked decisive, He looked quicker and smart, and everything was great.
And until they scored a late touchdown after that first
touchdound I have they scored three points? You know, they
had to pick six as part of their point total.
They it didn't look much different. And then to see
JJ McCarthy come out and do something that no one
else has ever done, score three touchdowns or lead three
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touchdown drives in his debut in the fourth quarter is remarkable,
especially after throwing a pick six where you thought, Okay,
here's the young kid. He just made a terrible mistake.
He's going to go into that show.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
He didn't.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
This is a really this is problematic for Chicago. It's problematic.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
No look. Week one is always an anomaly.
Speaker 12 (26:02):
I always say about the first few weeks of the season.
The teams that suck don't know they suck yet, right
everyone thinks they're good and you're gonna get everybody's best shot.
But this is problematic for the Bears. To see Caleb
not capitalized past that opening drive, honestly, and then to
see a rookie in JJ McCarthy shake off a really
(26:26):
horrible throw that picks six for the former Key's practice
squad player and then do what he did in the
fourth quarter. That's that's not a good look for Chicago
right now, and I think Bears fans should be concerned.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
How about Aaron Glenn, You know, blaming the fumble by
the kickoff player is the reason that they lost. And
we're going to talk about this later in the show,
but yeah, I get it. You want to be the
new coach and send out a signal you're gonna be
letting go of players every time somebody makes a mistake
or throws a pick or or fumbles the ball. I mean,
(26:59):
I kind of see what you want to do, but
I'm not so sure. Uh that's the way you do it,
or to make people feel comfortable at all or not.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, but let's let's be honest.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
If they thought he was really good, they would have
kept him.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
I mean, Jimmy Johnson was the best of this.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
Like he said, I'll treat everybody fairly, but I won't
treat anybody the same.
Speaker 11 (27:19):
When he was the head coach, he.
Speaker 12 (27:20):
Cut players for sleeping in the sleep, falling sleep in meetings,
he cut people for fumbling. He didn't cut any of
the stars for doing any of that, like you know
what I mean. Like they felt he was expendable anyway.
So I think that Aaron made that decision to send
a message.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So what message? What message would that be to me?
Speaker 12 (27:37):
Okay, that's that's great, that's trade.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's that's where I think it's hollow because it ain't
a star player or somebody who's really good. If you're
just gonna you're gonna cut a guy who already had
nine fumbles coming into when you put them on your team,
did you really do anything? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (27:56):
You're not wrong there, but but but that's the sliding
scale of justice in the NFL. Right, the better you are,
the more I get people will give you. So, yeah,
I'm not what you're saying, is that actually really smart?
But I think that Aaron felt like.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
He needed to send the message.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
Whether or not it is received is irrelevant because these players,
you're right, well, probably It's like it's like when Mike
McDaniel last year started sending the clock back twenty four
minutes for meetings because they hadn't won a playoff game
at twenty four seeds. Do you think you think any
of those players gave a crap about that? What the
hell are you talking about? So, but that's that's a
(28:34):
very Bill Parcells move. It is a Bill Parcells move,
and obviously Aaron is very very much a mentor of
Bill Parcells and someone that he feels like has shaped
his career. It doesn't it It doesn't matter until it matters,
right and if if it's if they find a way
to turn things around, right, if they don't then it
(28:54):
looks stupid.
Speaker 11 (28:55):
It's I mean, it's all the fact every of the
NFL is based on results. Nothing else matters. Win or
did you not win.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I've said it a million times on this show. Sports
has a short menu tray. It's wins and losses. There's
nothing else on the menu.
Speaker 12 (29:09):
I do think when everyone talks about culture, right, oh
he's building a culture, they fire him. They say, well,
he didn't win enough, so the culture, I mean, the
culture only matters.
Speaker 11 (29:18):
If you win.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Thank you. That's what I just said.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
The only thing, it's the only thing that matters.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That culture thing is the biggest con job I've ever seen,
because the only when you're winning. Oh yeah he been
Dan Campbell showed up and built the culture. If Delions
don't make the playoffs this year, people will start to say, oh,
I don't think Dan Campbell's the guy. He lost the team.
Speaker 12 (29:39):
Robb, You're one hundred percent right. At the end of
the day, players will put up.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
With anything as long as they're winning.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
And when they don't win, the thing, the thing that
you thought was cute when you're winning, freaking drives you
crazy when you're losing.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
But I do absolutely believe creating an identity is huge
in sports.
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Knowing what you hate that No, that's fair, that's fair,
Like you want to have.
Speaker 11 (30:02):
This is what we do, this is who we are.
Speaker 12 (30:04):
But the best teams, the best teams, when it's all
said and done, don't say, when everything's on the line, well,
this is what we do. The best teams say whatever
we have to do to win, even it's completely the
opposite of everything. Well, we're about this, But in this situation,
maybe you need the other thing.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
And I think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Trey. I want to just one last thing. I want
to jump in real quick. I've just talked about John
Hollball should be fired by the Ravens, and I'm dead serious.
I mean, he's been he's been there a while, and
every year they're disappointing to me, or they give up
seventeen double digit leads and I get it.
Speaker 11 (30:42):
Nineteen ninety one, I.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Mean it's an incredible and I'm not they won a
Super Bowl, I get it, or whatever that was a
long time ago, twenty twelve, whatever it was. Yeah, you know,
like I get it. But one day you're going to
wake up it's like the Mike McCarthy's he's turned into
uh no, he's turned into to Doc Rivers, you know
what I mean, where you won a championship and now
every year you go home disappointed. And this is what
(31:05):
the wave is doing to feel like.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
To me, you're not wrong and this is the weird thing.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
And we can apply this to Mike Tomlin as well,
if we're being honest with us.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I've said it a mine times about him. Enough with
the five.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
Hundred Yeah, Bill Cower.
Speaker 12 (31:19):
Bill Cower said it the best. He said, you know,
after ten years, I think your message wears out on
your team. And I think that if Mike Tomlin and
John Harbor are fired, they'll get jobs tomorrow. That doesn't
mean they're not good coaches, but sometimes you've been there
too long. And to your point about John, it's been
since Super Bowl forty seven. They haven't been able to
(31:40):
beat the Chiefs. They haven't been able to beat all
these teams in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson, as great as
he is as a starting quarterback, he has three playoff wins.
To put that in perspective, that's the same number of Super.
Speaker 11 (31:51):
Bowl wins as Patrick Mahomes has.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
Okay, and he's got seventeen. That's the second most in
NFL history. And I'm not a winsor quarterbacksat guy, but
the NFL keeps this right.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
So that's why I use it.
Speaker 12 (32:01):
That's why I use it as a reference point. John
Harville and Mike Tomlin are great coaches. I believe that,
but it might be time for both of them to
try this somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Hey, real quick, before we let you go, Trey, I'm
going to throw it two different ways. You got the Raiders, Steelers,
and the coach they all get wins, and then you
got the Bengals, the Giants and Pats all lost, which
you can do however you want, Which are real from
those wins or what's you look at a team with
those losses and say they're better than that?
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I think that I'm not sold on the Bengals. I mean,
I think the Bengals still have major concerns. I mean,
it was a rookie kicker that missed an extra point
the field goal in a one point game, right, otherwise
we'll be talking about the Bengals falling behind in September again.
I don't like the way that team is built. I
have concerns there. I think Indianapolis is real. There's a
(32:48):
lot of good players on that team. They just need
a competent quarterback. And Daniel Joes isn't great, but he's competent.
And I do believe that Aaron Rodgers has something to
prove this year. It's one thing to prove it against
the Jets where he had a huge chip.
Speaker 11 (33:01):
On his shoulder, but every went wrong the other year.
Speaker 12 (33:04):
I need to see this more from Aaron Rodgers going forward.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, you sent to me that we were talking about
that yesterday. That's where I am as well.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
Trey.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Try appreciate you as always, Trey Wingo.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Make sure you go check out the new YouTube show
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Speaker 5 (33:17):
Thank you, Trey.
Speaker 11 (33:19):
You got it guys anytime.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
No doubt.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
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Speaker 2 (34:15):
Did I knew that? Did I knew that? Did I
knew that?
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Did?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Did I knew that?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You sound like that?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That is you, Alex? I think you did something with
the like a synthesizer. Why you don't do that when
we had once Julia White didn't hear no because I
because you hear did I knew that he wouldn't want
to hear it. I did it out of respect that
he was super cool, He's a great guy. We didn't
need to do that, all right. I listened to Dan
Campbell's picks and it was a bad night. Oh and
(34:47):
three listen down to four day.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Campbell citing this offense right now, Detroy, like I had
nothing to do with nothing? Yeah, bad night, oh and
three on the season. No, we're not resetting. I was
about to say, what's the four and eight? Oh yeah,
you're about to reset two more and threes? You big resetting.
You're gonna be like that kid that that recess Nintendo
back in the day.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Just pull the plug, you know, pulling out many thanks.
Tiger all right, Mets plus one and a half runs.
I figure, like they have to win, they need one desperately. Uh,
they are losing losing right now, Yes, but it's still
all just forty.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Maybe he'll do something.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yankees minus one and a half runs against the Tigers,
no score in that game. These are all but posted
very early. And I got the Padres, who lost last
night to Cincinnati at home. I think that they needed
to win. All three of these are like they gotta
get a win. They all need to win. So again,
Padres minus one and a half. I got the Yankees
minus one and a half and the Mets plus one
(35:53):
and a half in Philadelphia as the best bet. And uh,
Elijah had this posted very early. I don't know if
somebody text him around seven something in the morning when
he was having breakfast with his kids. Somebody, right, you know, Okay, Elijah,
that's the life I'm living.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I feel man, Elijah. I feel bad for you.
Speaker 11 (36:11):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm sorry you minding your business. You're like, hey, how
was school today?
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Daddy was great? I need it now. The Lions lost?
Put it up now.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Well, I'm saying, Rob, I'm just trying to have dinner.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Come on, Elijah, the waiting on me. Elijah's the best
when it comes to the stuff. But anyway, I'm not
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I don't know if Adam Silver, but essentially Adam Silver
comes out finally hear from him about the Steve Baumer
Kawhi Leonard situation and basically says, we're gonna investigate, We're
gonna get an outside source to investigate this, and that
like me speaking of as Adam Silvery says, like me,
I would want to be treated with the you know,
fairness and get the proper you know, due process. What
(37:32):
I heard was, please, please, please don't let there be
a smoking gun, because I don't think the NBA really
wants to deal with this. I don't think the NBA
wants to deal with the gambling, which is why the
day Terry Rosier's the day Elie Beasley information comes out,
to day they exonerate Terry Rozier, They've exonerated Beasley. And
I think the NBA is trying to do away with scandals,
(37:53):
and I think they are praying and hoping that Kawhi
obviously comes out with him and the raptors.
Speaker 14 (37:58):
He wanted to get in on the maype leaves. You
want dollars, just negotiate. What if it's just negotiations. You
ask for the world negotiations. I don't think there's anything
about about him asking for the maple leaves. That's a
that's a crime.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I want, I want to crime now what you mentioned
in the maple leafs?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So why yeah, why not? They might give me a
couple of shares that The bottom line remains that they
You're right, they don't want anything. If they if they
could get away without this being a major ordeal, they will.
And the burden of proof is still on the NBA
that they know without question that Steve Balmer knew about
(38:37):
the company. And remember he lost fifty million dollars on this,
so that's his que. And I heard Mark Cuban who
made a really good argument if Steve Balmer had his
fingerprints all over this, he could have made sure this
company didn't go bankrupt and then the records would not
be public, like there's a way to hide that stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
He didn't, and he didn't do that. He took a
fifty million dollar bath. Think too similar to like sign
stealing or doing thing. I think a lot of teams
are doing this in some other ways, finding ways to
pay guys a little extra, finding little corporations or a
little things to give them extra five mil tike of
everybody can't get twenty eight. They're not kawhi, but you
know little ways to circumvent the salary cap. So I
(39:18):
absolutely believe they're trying to get this to go away,
because then you might have to look at all thirty
teams and you don't want that smoke for sure. So
we'll see how it works out. Speaking of the NBA,
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I was social media group who's been doing like what
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But I'm just saying, but I would be mad if
you go enjoy vacation. Yeah, I wouldn't watch, you know,
because you know I ain't watching you. That's I don't
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The people who are watching on YouTube, and those people
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We don't have to ride rock with each other.
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And I'm gonna say, Alex, I sent you a message today.
I was really you know, I'm just real quick pull
a curtain back sometimes, you know, I get a little
worked up. I know your wife doesn't listen to the
show because she hates when I yell and stuff, and
your mom turns it off in Michigan because she can't
stand me. Who's yelling at my baby? No no, no, I
get it. And your kids hate me. Why my family
(04:55):
hate you?
Speaker 5 (04:55):
They do? And when I go, I don't even know.
I didn't get the memo.
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Bree and what not. And when I go to church,
they'll probably do something crazy.
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No, they will be say, how did that? That's what
on the worship Wednesday?
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In fact, But Alex, you know I'm passionate, and I
got a nice messure to the guy sent to was
that that was on the YouTube? You know, the comments
basically just said I made his day. He had a
really bad day. And he turns on the radio and
there I am yelling and screaming at the top of
my lungs, and he just said, man, I came for that,
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Thank you. It made it, just made my day. I
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Are really yelling, yelling yesterday. In fact, I'm disappointed in
you yesterday.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
No, Yesterday was fine.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
I thought you were.
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Gonna bring it some more on Monday. I was disappointed. No,
matter of fact, we had it Monday. I was disappointed.
Don't wish for magic city Monday. Tell me show him
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Speaker 2 (05:53):
I showed it, and it was you made it show
one hit. You didn't even commit to it.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
You didn't fooling like you act like you were about
to bree I thought he was about.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
To bring it. How about now, Rob G. Dan Campbell
affects your You might know by me as Dan gamble.
He lost that he's lost big games for the Lions
in which they should have been able to advance to
the super Bowl by now. But he had a statement
today Rob g in a little news conference.
Speaker 10 (06:22):
Yeah, it sounds like he is well aware of the
numbers because according to CBS Sports, only twenty five percent
of the teams in the NFL that start oh to
one end up reaching the playoffs. This goes back to
nineteen ninety That's unbelievable. Really, teams that start owing to
though Rob Calvin make the playoffs just twelve percent of
(06:43):
the time, and that might be a big reason why
Dan Campbell, when he was speaking with the media today
ahead of their matchup with Ben Johnson Chicago Bears, basically
called this game a must win.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Take a listen. Ben's my friend.
Speaker 11 (06:58):
He's always going to be my friend. You know, nothing
about that's going to change. You know, we're going in
getting ready to play Chicago. We're going to win this game.
You know we have to.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
We have to. Wow, He's saying that they have to.
Week two against the Bears is a must win, and
I kind of you know it sounds crazy, but Campbell
I think has figured it out. He doesn't have his
security blanket anymore, which were those two coordinators. And I
think he'll be exposed as we go forward with this
(07:31):
season that the reason he had the success that he's
had isn't because of his culture building. It's because he
had two really good coordinators who wind up getting head
coaching jobs because of what they did. Dan Campbell's not
the offensive guy, defensive guy. He's not either of those guys.
He's a raw ra guy. And the problem is when
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you're a raw ra guy, that sounds good when you're
winning and people can say, oh, he changed the culture.
I run through a wall for Dan Campbell. That's easy
to say when you're winning and you're undefeated on the
road and you win fifteen games and all that. But
as soon as you start to get pushed around like
(08:14):
a rag doll like we saw, or have a vanilla
vanilla bean offense that we saw in Green Bay, things change,
things tighten up. I am convinced that Ben Johnson will
pull off the upset beat the Lions in Week two.
(08:35):
Have you seen the schedule, Kelvin, Have you seen the
schedule and I know you talked about it yesterday. I'm
ready to make that bet with you that the fo
a pair of Jordans, that the Lions won't make the playoffs. Okay, done,
all right, we got that mark that down. I'm ready
to make that bet because after this, if you take
a look at the schedule, they gotta go to Baltimore,
(08:57):
they play Kansas City. They have a daunting schedule, and
they better win against Chicago because if they don't, there's
probably only one game out of the first six that
they would win, and that's against Cleveland. They're on the
road against the Chiefs. Rob g. What's the other tough
road game they got. I know they got the oh,
(09:18):
the Bengals on the road and the Chiefs back to back,
and they also have to play the Ravens. Those are
three tough games on the road. You gotta win Bears
at home and the Browns at home? Correct? I think
that that so? So you got. That's why he's already
talking in this term of we're gonna win or we
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have to win, because he understands where they are and
Ben Johnson knows that team left and right and knows
what works and what doesn't work. He's going to have
an advantage in mapping out this game against the Lions,
and I believe the Bears will pull the upset, send
the Lions to zero and two, and Dan Gamble will
(09:59):
be that it wasn't him, it was Ben Johnson and
Aaron Glenn.
Speaker 1 (10:07):
I don't agree with that absolutely. Ben Johnson played a
massive prole. He's phenomenal as an offensive coordinator, and Aaron
Glenn was a really good defensive coordinator. Where I disagree
with you is a couple of things. One, Dan Campbell,
you're acting like he came right into a winning situation.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
He went.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
You spent time in Detroit, a putrick culture, a team,
a culture, an organization that ain't won jack, that wasn't
doing jack.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
It wasn't headed in the right direction.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
So it wasn't like he came into winning and then
he just had this sustainability.
Speaker 5 (10:38):
What he came into was the.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
First year they went three and thirteen, but they did
not fold the next year nine and eight.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
And remember they started off like one in five or
six or something. I don't want to stop you. Ben
Johnson was the offensive coordinators first year.
Speaker 5 (10:53):
I don't know how fun it goes back.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
No no, he was not good, dude.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
That was clearly not the point.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
The point they ain't go to three to thirteen, they
go to nine and eight, they go to twelve and five,
and then obviously fifteen to two.
Speaker 5 (11:05):
And the reason why they got better.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
You can great you know, hony teams that have great
coordinators and don't do jack with them, and then we
see the coordinator go somewhere else and we're like, oh,
I guess he was a pretty good coordinator because he
created a Brad Holmes First, let me start there. The
general manager brought in the right guy and Dan Campbell
who they collectively bring in the right guys a coordinator
and create a culture and draft well.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
Drafting well is probably.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Gonna end up biting them in the butt in the
next couple of years because they've got have to pay
a bunch of really good young guys between the end
of the season and next season. And to me, they
they've drafted well, built well, developed well and they have
a great system going. You look, you talk about baseball,
you like baseball. They got a great farm system going
where the guys they draft, they develop and they become
very useful on the football field. And they have a
(11:49):
grit about them that they bounce back and they continue
to compete. They could have folded after the NFC Championship
game against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5 (11:57):
They didn't. They came back and got better of injuries.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
They end up losing in the postseason, but this team
continues to fight and confinued.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
How do you get better when you don't go to
where you were? You in the NFC Championship game, you
took a step back?
Speaker 1 (12:09):
Great question, didn't he went to fifteen and two and
they had seven defensive starters out?
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Did they lose because of that? They were nine and
a half point favorite? Is the favorite? I don't have
seven that. That's not why.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
That's why they got switched. That's Swiss Chiefs and Jared
it's not so. My point is you're giving them an out.
Why you appreciate it? No, I'm telling you that they
had nothing to do with the defense, had a quarterback
who had four What are you going to win?
Speaker 2 (12:38):
So they are you're done? The lost? Are you done?
Speaker 11 (12:41):
Great?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
So they lost the one game there. My point was
they continue to improve. They go from twelve to fifteen. So, yes,
they lost a horrible game in the postseason. Happens.
Speaker 5 (12:51):
You know who has lost a horrible game in the
Super Bowl, the Chiefs, it happens.
Speaker 1 (12:54):
My point is this team continues to go that one
difference between the Chiefs.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
And to you it don't matter.
Speaker 11 (13:00):
They got.
Speaker 2 (13:05):
One super Lions haven't even been.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
That matters in the past. No, it's not my whole point.
So my whole point is they continue to fight. So
absolutely this is a must win for them because it's
not just the los the What.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
Do you say if they lose the game to the
Bear then, now what would be your compensation?
Speaker 1 (13:20):
They absolutely still have a chance to make the postseason.
We set up here last year, you and I talking
about the Ravens, not the Ravens. But they are exactly
like the Ring. They've exactly been like the if not
better the last Rave.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
No they haven't. No, the Ravens have a better team
than the not even questions. So one quarterback has won
multiple m v p s and the other one has
it And what has he done with has got?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Has he got exact same gotten to.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
The same place one organization has got another one is
not talking about this team. I'm talking about the Lions.
Don't ask me a question. I'm trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
What I'm saying is they haven't oppert And the reason
why this game matters, and the reason why this game
matters is because it's a divisional game as well. So
you don't want to go into and have everybody in
your division have a win except you. So absolutely it's
a must win because it's not just you're not playing
the Panthers, you're playing another team in your division who
every team will have a win if you don't. You
(14:19):
don't want to start like that down in the division,
especially when the Packers look like they're going to be
really good, Vikings still out there to be determined how
good they'll be, and the Bears look like they should
be better than they were last year. So absolutely, Dan
Campbell's approach and he bought equity, has equity with his
team that he can push these these buttons with them,
He can get them round up because he has the
equity with this unit.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, is Dan Campbell
already feeling the pressure in Detroit? Is he about to
get exposed by Ben Johnson and the Bears on Sunday?
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Speaker 11 (16:47):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Rob and I talking about Dan Campbell who said it's
a must win for the Lions. Do you feel he's
under pressure right now? Do you feel like it is
a must win for the Lions? Will he get exposed?
Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox to take some
phone calls?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Who we got him? And Alex I wanted a little passion.
What happened to that?
Speaker 11 (17:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:09):
Pass?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Okay, are you pupping?
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Speaker 5 (17:18):
Antony's calls? Who we got?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
All right, let's go. Uh, let's see Casey in Oregon.
You're in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up,
Casey Swing?
Speaker 12 (17:26):
I'm sorry, Hey guys, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 9 (17:29):
How's it going?
Speaker 2 (17:30):
All good? How are you? Casey?
Speaker 7 (17:32):
I'm all right?
Speaker 13 (17:33):
So far a country but yeah, you know so uh anyway,
uh yeah, for this weekend, I actually think, uh, the
Lions are gonna have talent the Bears. But I agree
with you Ross for the long term, I don't see
the Lions in the playoffs with losing Aaron Glenna Ben Johnson.
(17:54):
Those are two big coordinator lost it.
Speaker 2 (17:57):
Yeah, I think it's it's huge and I think people
know about it. I'm not the only one who don't
have the lines making the playoff. Thanks for the call.
There are a lot of people, more people than you
would think, on that bandwagon because they know the importance
of losing guys like that when they both get head coaching.
Speaker 1 (18:15):
Job, that's a lot and also there that should be
a good division.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Lou in Allentown on pennsyl Tucky. You're on the couple
of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Blue Hell? You doing good?
How are you very good?
Speaker 7 (18:32):
You're gonna be a little short of money because you're
going to be getting missed to watching. Jordan's all right,
tell what it is? One game, one game for the
Lions and they lost team. He also said that, uh,
what's that Daniel Jones for the Colt You said he's
he's a bomb.
Speaker 11 (18:51):
He is.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
One game.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
I don't care that one game he's a bum. He's
got plenty of uh career low lights for me to
call him a bomb. I don't believe in Daniel Jones.
Speaker 7 (19:03):
Well, Dan Dan Campbell ain't a bomb. He's He's risen
every year.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Is that right? They were thirty They went the Yeah,
I figured that I heard you say, Well, I figured
you were Lions slappy. But it's okay, Lou. We appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
Lo Hey, Lou, you don't worry. You ain't wrong when
you're right. Don't worry about it, Lou, Lou. He's picked
bad football teams too.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Kyle in Florida, you're on the yard couple of Fox
Sports radio.
Speaker 5 (19:31):
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Speaker 1 (19:33):
Was that the the advertised big little Big Loue?
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He's big bad football teams. He's big bad football teams.
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I don't like Big Loue. Big lou got people out
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Speaker 2 (19:47):
You're in the yard couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Kyle?
Speaker 7 (19:50):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:51):
Man?
Speaker 2 (19:51):
How are you?
Speaker 11 (19:53):
I'm good?
Speaker 9 (19:54):
Last time I got in here, you were yelling at
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Speaker 11 (19:56):
I was shouting out your door.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
But did on Sunday? How does your door do?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
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Speaker 7 (20:04):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (20:04):
He didn't playing?
Speaker 11 (20:05):
Okay, they're good. He was rapping up. He's gonna get
out there, so nowhere.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yeah, nowhere about he out there anyway?
Speaker 9 (20:15):
Yeah, Gamble getting I'm sure Gamble does feel pressure. Any
good coach, any good player feels pressure to win, regardless
if they want to make it to the playoffs. They
should feel the same type of pressure every single game,
regardless if they're coming off with a loss.
Speaker 12 (20:31):
Or a win.
Speaker 9 (20:31):
So and and players players love to play for coaches
like them. So he's going up there. He just expressing
the fact that you know he believes in his players
and coordinators don't make everything. You've seen the same coordinator
that we're talking about just marched out there and got
their butt kicked by Minnesota. So you know, if their
(20:52):
quarterback crumbles second half the same way he did the
last game, is going to happen to him again, and the.
Speaker 11 (20:56):
Lines are going to be.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
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Speaker 2 (22:52):
I do want to talk about the Lions. Of course,
losing the two cords. They got their butts kicked in
Green Bay. They really did. It didn't look good. I
don't have them making the playoffs. Try. I just want
you to know, where are you on the Lions? And
they got a really tough schedule and no coordinators or
(23:14):
new coordinators I should say both in the building. I
didn't like the idea that they didn't go out and
find the best available and just you know, promoted with
Then where are you on the Lions and their expectations?
Speaker 12 (23:26):
Yeah, listen, I think the lines the last couple of
years do in a great job with something called expectations,
as you alluded to, you know, but now they've got.
Speaker 11 (23:32):
To deal with erosion.
Speaker 12 (23:33):
And that's what happens when you make the playoffs multiple
years in a row. People come take your players, and
they come take your coaches and and you know, you
can go look at the numbers. Jared goff as a
starting quarterback without Sean McVeigh and without Ben Johnson not good.
So I'm not saying Jared's not a good player. I'm
saying they've got to find a rhythm with him. It's
a real telling test this week is the Bears come
(23:55):
to town after that debacle Monday night, and the debacle
for the Lions have won ten straight games following a loss.
That's the longest active streak in the NFL. So somehow
Chicago goes in there and finds a way as Ben
Johnson comes into his old place to steal a win.
That's hugely problematic for Detroit. Listen, I think Detroit can
(24:18):
still make the playoffs, but I think a ten or
eleven win season is about the max for them this year.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
That's fair, and I can understand that you lose coordinators obviously,
some players and offensive line too.
Speaker 5 (24:29):
That's another whole thing. Yes, fair, Yeah, that's finally what.
Speaker 12 (24:32):
You just think it was huge. You know, their offensive
line last year was together basically the entire season, and
they've lost basically through injury or retirement, three fs retirement,
three fits to that offensive line. That's going to be
a huge thing for them. To work with throughout the season.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
I agree, that's one of the things they got to fix.
Speaker 11 (24:49):
More.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
That makes me worry, to be honest with you, even
more so the coordinators, because if they can't run the ball,
that's going to be difficult. Let's go to this, let's stay,
let's stay in this game, this matchup. Let's go to
week one. We see Caleb Williams, when we see obviously
Ben Johnson bold debuting right the debuting with my new
head coach and me debuting as a coach with my
star quarterback or should maybe potentially star quarterback, would you
(25:10):
make of week one for them?
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Kind of a tail that you have?
Speaker 12 (25:14):
Yeah, listen, there's no way to slice it.
Speaker 11 (25:16):
It's not great for Caleb.
Speaker 12 (25:19):
You know, they came out of that first drive. They
looked decisive, He looked quicker and smart, and everything was great.
And until they scored a late touchdown after that first
touchdound I have they scored three points? You know, they
had to pick six as part of their point total.
They it didn't look much different. And then to see
JJ McCarthy come out and do something that no one
else has ever done, score three touchdowns or lead three
(25:41):
touchdown drives in his debut in the fourth quarter is remarkable,
especially after throwing a pick six where you thought, Okay,
here's the young kid. He just made a terrible mistake.
He's going to go into that show.
Speaker 11 (25:53):
He didn't.
Speaker 12 (25:54):
This is a really this is problematic for Chicago. It's problematic.
Speaker 11 (25:59):
No look. Week one is always an anomaly.
Speaker 12 (26:02):
I always say about the first few weeks of the season.
The teams that suck don't know they suck yet, right
everyone thinks they're good and you're gonna get everybody's best shot.
But this is problematic for the Bears. To see Caleb
not capitalized past that opening drive, honestly, and then to
see a rookie in JJ McCarthy shake off a really
(26:26):
horrible throw that picks six for the former Key's practice
squad player and then do what he did in the
fourth quarter. That's that's not a good look for Chicago
right now, and I think Bears fans should be concerned.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
How about Aaron Glenn, You know, blaming the fumble by
the kickoff player is the reason that they lost. And
we're going to talk about this later in the show,
but yeah, I get it. You want to be the
new coach and send out a signal you're gonna be
letting go of players every time somebody makes a mistake
or throws a pick or or fumbles the ball. I mean,
(26:59):
I kind of see what you want to do, but
I'm not so sure. Uh that's the way you do it,
or to make people feel comfortable at all or not.
Speaker 11 (27:10):
Yeah, yeah, but let's let's be honest.
Speaker 12 (27:12):
If they thought he was really good, they would have
kept him.
Speaker 11 (27:14):
I mean, Jimmy Johnson was the best of this.
Speaker 12 (27:15):
Like he said, I'll treat everybody fairly, but I won't
treat anybody the same.
Speaker 11 (27:19):
When he was the head coach, he.
Speaker 12 (27:20):
Cut players for sleeping in the sleep, falling sleep in meetings,
he cut people for fumbling. He didn't cut any of
the stars for doing any of that, like you know
what I mean. Like they felt he was expendable anyway.
So I think that Aaron made that decision to send
a message.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
So what message? What message would that be to me?
Speaker 12 (27:37):
Okay, that's that's great, that's trade.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
That's that's where I think it's hollow because it ain't
a star player or somebody who's really good. If you're
just gonna you're gonna cut a guy who already had
nine fumbles coming into when you put them on your team,
did you really do anything? That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 12 (27:56):
You're not wrong there, but but but that's the sliding
scale of justice in the NFL. Right, the better you are,
the more I get people will give you. So, yeah,
I'm not what you're saying, is that actually really smart?
But I think that Aaron felt like.
Speaker 11 (28:11):
He needed to send the message.
Speaker 12 (28:12):
Whether or not it is received is irrelevant because these players,
you're right, well, probably It's like it's like when Mike
McDaniel last year started sending the clock back twenty four
minutes for meetings because they hadn't won a playoff game
at twenty four seeds. Do you think you think any
of those players gave a crap about that? What the
hell are you talking about? So, but that's that's a
(28:34):
very Bill Parcells move. It is a Bill Parcells move,
and obviously Aaron is very very much a mentor of
Bill Parcells and someone that he feels like has shaped
his career. It doesn't it It doesn't matter until it matters,
right and if if it's if they find a way
to turn things around, right, if they don't then it
(28:54):
looks stupid.
Speaker 11 (28:55):
It's I mean, it's all the fact every of the
NFL is based on results. Nothing else matters. Win or
did you not win.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
I've said it a million times on this show. Sports
has a short menu tray. It's wins and losses. There's
nothing else on the menu.
Speaker 12 (29:09):
I do think when everyone talks about culture, right, oh
he's building a culture, they fire him. They say, well,
he didn't win enough, so the culture, I mean, the
culture only matters.
Speaker 11 (29:18):
If you win.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Thank you. That's what I just said.
Speaker 11 (29:20):
The only thing, it's the only thing that matters.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
That culture thing is the biggest con job I've ever seen,
because the only when you're winning. Oh yeah he been
Dan Campbell showed up and built the culture. If Delions
don't make the playoffs this year, people will start to say, oh,
I don't think Dan Campbell's the guy. He lost the team.
Speaker 12 (29:39):
Robb, You're one hundred percent right. At the end of
the day, players will put up.
Speaker 11 (29:43):
With anything as long as they're winning.
Speaker 12 (29:45):
And when they don't win, the thing, the thing that
you thought was cute when you're winning, freaking drives you
crazy when you're losing.
Speaker 5 (29:53):
I don't disagree with that.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
But I do absolutely believe creating an identity is huge
in sports.
Speaker 12 (29:58):
Knowing what you hate that No, that's fair, that's fair,
Like you want to have.
Speaker 11 (30:02):
This is what we do, this is who we are.
Speaker 12 (30:04):
But the best teams, the best teams, when it's all
said and done, don't say, when everything's on the line, well,
this is what we do. The best teams say whatever
we have to do to win, even it's completely the
opposite of everything. Well, we're about this, But in this situation,
maybe you need the other thing.
Speaker 11 (30:24):
And I think that's the most important thing.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
Trey. I want to just one last thing. I want
to jump in real quick. I've just talked about John
Hollball should be fired by the Ravens, and I'm dead serious.
I mean, he's been he's been there a while, and
every year they're disappointing to me, or they give up
seventeen double digit leads and I get it.
Speaker 11 (30:42):
Nineteen ninety one, I.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Mean it's an incredible and I'm not they won a
Super Bowl, I get it, or whatever that was a
long time ago, twenty twelve, whatever it was. Yeah, you know,
like I get it. But one day you're going to
wake up it's like the Mike McCarthy's he's turned into
uh no, he's turned into to Doc Rivers, you know
what I mean, where you won a championship and now
every year you go home disappointed. And this is what
(31:05):
the wave is doing to feel like.
Speaker 11 (31:07):
To me, you're not wrong and this is the weird thing.
Speaker 12 (31:11):
And we can apply this to Mike Tomlin as well,
if we're being honest with us.
Speaker 2 (31:14):
I've said it a mine times about him. Enough with
the five.
Speaker 11 (31:17):
Hundred Yeah, Bill Cower.
Speaker 12 (31:19):
Bill Cower said it the best. He said, you know,
after ten years, I think your message wears out on
your team. And I think that if Mike Tomlin and
John Harbor are fired, they'll get jobs tomorrow. That doesn't
mean they're not good coaches, but sometimes you've been there
too long. And to your point about John, it's been
since Super Bowl forty seven. They haven't been able to
(31:40):
beat the Chiefs. They haven't been able to beat all
these teams in the playoffs. Lamar Jackson, as great as
he is as a starting quarterback, he has three playoff wins.
To put that in perspective, that's the same number of Super.
Speaker 11 (31:51):
Bowl wins as Patrick Mahomes has.
Speaker 12 (31:52):
Okay, and he's got seventeen. That's the second most in
NFL history. And I'm not a winsor quarterbacksat guy, but
the NFL keeps this right.
Speaker 11 (32:00):
So that's why I use it.
Speaker 12 (32:01):
That's why I use it as a reference point. John
Harville and Mike Tomlin are great coaches. I believe that,
but it might be time for both of them to
try this somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (32:10):
Hey, real quick, before we let you go, Trey, I'm
going to throw it two different ways. You got the Raiders, Steelers,
and the coach they all get wins, and then you
got the Bengals, the Giants and Pats all lost, which
you can do however you want, Which are real from
those wins or what's you look at a team with
those losses and say they're better than that?
Speaker 12 (32:27):
I think that I'm not sold on the Bengals. I mean,
I think the Bengals still have major concerns. I mean,
it was a rookie kicker that missed an extra point
the field goal in a one point game, right, otherwise
we'll be talking about the Bengals falling behind in September again.
I don't like the way that team is built. I
have concerns there. I think Indianapolis is real. There's a
(32:48):
lot of good players on that team. They just need
a competent quarterback. And Daniel Joes isn't great, but he's competent.
And I do believe that Aaron Rodgers has something to
prove this year. It's one thing to prove it against
the Jets where he had a huge chip.
Speaker 11 (33:01):
On his shoulder, but every went wrong the other year.
Speaker 12 (33:04):
I need to see this more from Aaron Rodgers going forward.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
Yeah, you sent to me that we were talking about
that yesterday. That's where I am as well.
Speaker 11 (33:10):
Trey.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Try appreciate you as always, Trey Wingo.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Make sure you go check out the new YouTube show
Straight Facts on Me on YouTube and on podcasts available everywhere.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
Thank you, Trey.
Speaker 11 (33:19):
You got it guys anytime.
Speaker 5 (33:20):
No doubt.
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Speaker 3 (34:07):
Welcome to Shekel City. I'm Parker's day Dicks against the Spread?
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Did I knew that? Did I knew that? Did I
knew that?
Speaker 12 (34:22):
Did?
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Did I knew that?
Speaker 3 (34:24):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (34:25):
You sound like that?
Speaker 3 (34:26):
Is that?
Speaker 2 (34:26):
That is you, Alex? I think you did something with
the like a synthesizer. Why you don't do that when
we had once Julia White didn't hear no because I
because you hear did I knew that he wouldn't want
to hear it. I did it out of respect that
he was super cool, He's a great guy. We didn't
need to do that, all right. I listened to Dan
Campbell's picks and it was a bad night. Oh and
(34:47):
three listen down to four day.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
Campbell citing this offense right now, Detroy, like I had
nothing to do with nothing? Yeah, bad night, oh and
three on the season. No, we're not resetting. I was
about to say, what's the four and eight? Oh yeah,
you're about to reset two more and threes? You big resetting.
You're gonna be like that kid that that recess Nintendo
back in the day.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Just pull the plug, you know, pulling out many thanks.
Tiger all right, Mets plus one and a half runs.
I figure, like they have to win, they need one desperately. Uh,
they are losing losing right now, Yes, but it's still
all just forty.
Speaker 5 (35:30):
Maybe he'll do something.
Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yankees minus one and a half runs against the Tigers,
no score in that game. These are all but posted
very early. And I got the Padres, who lost last
night to Cincinnati at home. I think that they needed
to win. All three of these are like they gotta
get a win. They all need to win. So again,
Padres minus one and a half. I got the Yankees
minus one and a half and the Mets plus one
(35:53):
and a half in Philadelphia as the best bet. And uh,
Elijah had this posted very early. I don't know if
somebody text him around seven something in the morning when
he was having breakfast with his kids. Somebody, right, you know, Okay, Elijah,
that's the life I'm living.
Speaker 5 (36:09):
I feel man, Elijah. I feel bad for you.
Speaker 11 (36:11):
Bro.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
I'm sorry you minding your business. You're like, hey, how
was school today?
Speaker 11 (36:15):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Daddy was great? I need it now. The Lions lost?
Put it up now.
Speaker 11 (36:22):
Right now?
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Well, I'm saying, Rob, I'm just trying to have dinner.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Come on, Elijah, the waiting on me. Elijah's the best
when it comes to the stuff. But anyway, I'm not
telling you who to bet on. I'm telling you I
know who you bet known you ain't getting them no money.
Right now, It's time now for Play of the day.
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Speaker 5 (36:49):
Run game all right?
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don't know if we don't probably don't have this sound.
(37:11):
I don't know if Adam Silver, but essentially Adam Silver
comes out finally hear from him about the Steve Baumer
Kawhi Leonard situation and basically says, we're gonna investigate, We're
gonna get an outside source to investigate this, and that
like me speaking of as Adam Silvery says, like me,
I would want to be treated with the you know,
fairness and get the proper you know, due process. What
(37:32):
I heard was, please, please, please don't let there be
a smoking gun, because I don't think the NBA really
wants to deal with this. I don't think the NBA
wants to deal with the gambling, which is why the
day Terry Rosier's the day Elie Beasley information comes out,
to day they exonerate Terry Rozier, They've exonerated Beasley. And
I think the NBA is trying to do away with scandals,
(37:53):
and I think they are praying and hoping that Kawhi
obviously comes out with him and the raptors.
Speaker 14 (37:58):
He wanted to get in on the maype leaves. You
want dollars, just negotiate. What if it's just negotiations. You
ask for the world negotiations. I don't think there's anything
about about him asking for the maple leaves. That's a
that's a crime.
Speaker 5 (38:11):
I want, I want to crime now what you mentioned
in the maple leafs?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
So why yeah, why not? They might give me a
couple of shares that The bottom line remains that they
You're right, they don't want anything. If they if they
could get away without this being a major ordeal, they will.
And the burden of proof is still on the NBA
that they know without question that Steve Balmer knew about
(38:37):
the company. And remember he lost fifty million dollars on this,
so that's his que. And I heard Mark Cuban who
made a really good argument if Steve Balmer had his
fingerprints all over this, he could have made sure this
company didn't go bankrupt and then the records would not
be public, like there's a way to hide that stuff.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
He didn't, and he didn't do that. He took a
fifty million dollar bath. Think too similar to like sign
stealing or doing thing. I think a lot of teams
are doing this in some other ways, finding ways to
pay guys a little extra, finding little corporations or a
little things to give them extra five mil tike of
everybody can't get twenty eight. They're not kawhi, but you
know little ways to circumvent the salary cap. So I
(39:18):
absolutely believe they're trying to get this to go away,
because then you might have to look at all thirty
teams and you don't want that smoke for sure. So
we'll see how it works out. Speaking of the NBA,
we gotta talk about something too,
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