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Say my name, Rob Parker, say his name Calvin Washington,
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Speaker 4 (01:25):
So much to do, so little time.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Oh my goodness, gracious, and uh let's start here. Let
me welcome in my partner. He is Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
Kelvin Washington. What's happening? How are you wait?
Speaker 6 (01:39):
Hold on?
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Robie quiet? Okay, I just want to hear for her.
Send him in to the stage. I didn't know what.
I didn't know what I was going here.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I didn't know. No, no, no, not yet, Okay, I
just want to get it right. Yeah, so I need
some inflation.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Though for you, Robbie might not it might not hit
the same when you get up in there, the terris
might be tearing you up.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
That's right, Hey, that's for sure. But yeah, I'm in Atlanta.
You're in Los Angeles, of course, and it is the
odd couple on a funky flashback Friday, and man, a
lot to get to, a lot to talk about.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
And do you have the rundown? Because I do not have.
Speaker 6 (02:22):
I don't worry about it, man, That's why we die
a couple brother were a couple.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Of well, Ryan, what happened to my what happened to
my rundown? I don't have one.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
He honestly didn't want them to spilling drinks and getting
glitter on it, so he was like, I'm ana just
cut cow, so I got don't even worry about it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I'm here for you.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Vinnie good Will get ready to join us here bottom
of the hours, so we'll have some good conversations, some
hoops conversation with him. We got on the way after that,
our guy Olden Polonies next hour is gonna join us
again more NBA coverage and conversations. Looking forward to that.
And then lastly, Johnny Vello is gonna talk to us.
We'll have some uh, we'll talk some money as well
with him. So we got a pack show on a Friday,
(02:58):
My guy, all.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
Right, let's welcome in the couple of crew, because we
wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program without him. Alex,
of course, is our engineer. Ryan is our producer.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Ryan.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Is it true that Rob G potentially is coming back
on Monday?
Speaker 7 (03:15):
Is that?
Speaker 4 (03:16):
I don't know if I believe it here, not sure yet.
I'm not sure. We're not sure, Shay, I'm not sure
Brush will be here in a second. But I'm pretty
sure he'll be here next week. But again I'm not
sure yet. You know, I'm just.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Gonna say, like we six weeks came and went and
the placed him fall apart.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I think we did a good job.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Look, man, you know Rob G, Rob Parker, Rob anybody.
We don't need Robb G. We can be all right
without them.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
It's gonna sound good. Just there you go saying numbers
look good. I realized it more sponsored since he left.
I didn't even know Alex, to be honest. Oh we'll
get at Oh wow, we all that's right, all right?
Speaker 3 (04:00):
And uh Steve de Segers at the anchor desk. He'll
keep us updated throughout the program.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
And never heard of him, Elijah, never heard of them.
Speaker 4 (04:09):
There's a social media guru. And let me tell you.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I'm at six point eighty the fan here in Atlanta,
and this is pretty awesome. You know where I'm at,
right across the street from the ballpark. I mean literally,
I just had a oh sandwich right across and of
course no bread.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
I ate the meat out of the sandwich.
Speaker 6 (04:30):
But McDonald's too alone.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
Hey, I was mad at McDonald's this morning.
Speaker 6 (04:37):
I asked the earl, as heck, they're trying to do
the best they can.
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Eight in the morning. You're putting them on blast of
a way like socials. Alex get on here and this
is what happened. I order.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
I love these sauce it, I mean the steak, egg
and cheese.
Speaker 4 (04:51):
Have you ever had it with the sauce and the onions.
It's really good.
Speaker 3 (04:55):
But you know, I'm on this diet, so I'm not
eating the bagel. I make it very clear. And the
reason is I don't want to a waste the bagel
by throwing it out. You know, I don't like wasting food.
Number Two, I don't want my cheese stuck to the bagel.
I wanted on my my steak because I'm gonna lose
the cheese being stuck to the bagel. Correct, Okay, I
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say to the guy, can I have everything the sandwich
on the side, like on a plate, and I don't
want the bagel. He looked at me like I was
from Mars, like he looked at me. I was like,
what is so hard not to make the sandwich without
the bagel? Like really so actually, and he looked at
me like I was like, what are you asking me?
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And then that the worst part is, Alex, you saw
a receipt on social media.
Speaker 4 (05:45):
It says no bagel. Stop right, it says no bagel.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
And then I took a picture of the sandwich with
the bagel on it. It was an extra big bagel too,
a dwarf the steak in the egg. But anyway, and
guess what, McDonald's reached out to me. They've already reached
out to me. They said, you should have your sandwich
the way you want it, and we're gonna talk to
the store figure out.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
What happened, what we're wrong. But I did have the receipt.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It showed that I asked for a no bagel and
they even have it on the receipt and they still
gave me a bagel.
Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
I mean, one could say you could have just took
the bagel off, but you bring up great points. The
cheese will get stuck, the sauce will beat all up
in the bagel. The fat man inside me understands it.
So I just wanted to give you a hard time.
But I totally get it because my wife, no, when
we get something from somewhere and I get home and
the eighth the way I like it, I will I
have to band myself to not ruin the night. I
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will be like man. So I'm definitely a call back guy.
A yah, yeah, Washington, Yeah, they had twenty minutes. Yeah
that y'all messed it up. You messed it up, no doubt.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
All Right, we got a lot to do and we
should uh get started here with the with the news
of the day, and.
Speaker 4 (06:59):
There's a change. We knew this was coming.
Speaker 3 (07:02):
Greg Popovich stepping down as coach of the He hasn't
coached in a while because he had the stroke, but
he's officially stepped down as coach. He's gonna be the
team president. Twenty nine years at the Helm, and I
thought to myself, I mean, obviously accomplished a lot. Twenty
nine years is an unbelievable run. Right, Yeah, he's won
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five championships and isn't any all time winning his coach,
Right he is, he is, He's got all of those accolades,
and Kelvin, I'm not being mean, but I gotta.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Tell you when I think of yes, this not just
me and you.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
No, No, it's not just me and you.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
When I think of Pop, I'm gonna be honest, I
don't think of the most wins by coach. I don't
think about the five championships. I think about the most
influential thing that popped in was negative towards the NBA
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and hurt fans, and that is load management. And the
worst part about Pop doing that load management is it worked.
He rested players and they kept winning. So other people. Look,
this wasn't where this guy's a genius. Look at what
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he did. He revolutionized the game, right, everybody followed his lead.
It was one of the worst things that's ever happened
to the NBA. It made people question whether or not
they wanted to buy tickets, whether or not we could
believe that if we go there to the ballpark or
the stadium, that we know guys are playing, and he's
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the author of it.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
That's what I think about.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
And the other bad part was the way he handled
Kawhi Leonard, one of the all time greats, didn't buy
into being heard.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
Like seriously, Kawhi lost faith.
Speaker 3 (09:06):
In pop and that medical staff in San Antonio. Kawhi
never caused any trouble before that. Remember he was saying,
I'm heard. They didn't believe he was heard. I'm not
being mean. I'm telling you Greg Popovich and his load
management damaged the NBA forever. He's the author of it,
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and you can't shake it. He's the one that made
it work. He's the one.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
That did it. He's the one that makes.
Speaker 3 (09:39):
Fans mad that they spend four hundred dollars on tickets
and healthy players don't play.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
That's what I think about.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, I definitely think load management is something that he did.
And you mentioned it that you said he was successful
with that, he knew how to do it. It reminds
me of Steph Curry. He saw Steph ruin the NBA. Well,
wasn't Steph? Is that everybody felt they could be Steph
and they followed along and they ain't doing it right
and you got terrible people shooting threes. And it's the
(10:10):
same thing with the cop Popovich. Everybody is not doing
it right. Everybody isn't even winning at the radios where
at least he could justify it to say, hey, look
at the results. Y'all not winning like that. Y'all aren't
having the same success, So stop trying to do what
he did. But this so I understand your point there,
But nah, not for me, Rob, not at all. There's
several things that I take away away from just the championships,
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Away from just the winning. I look at papavinch and
the reason why you could consider him one of the greatest,
if not the greatest coach in basketball he's right up
there is for these reasons. Number One, I look at
him as a culture creator. You know, when I look
at the fact that they have award winners to this
present day, guess who's there to present the Rookie of
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the Year Award, Tim Duncan and David Robinson.
Speaker 6 (10:58):
When somebody went when Wimby into that, Tim Duncan.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
David Robinson, who's there they talk about Tony Parker will
come back. He created a culture in San Antonio that
we all know exactly what that culture is. He also
developed players. Tony Parker was this young French player who
wasn't really tough enough ready for the NBA. He took
him under his wings and they got into it. But
he molded Tony Parker into a Hall of Fame player.
(11:23):
He molded Janobili into a vetter and refined player. He
took a defensive minded, no offensive, real game Kawhi and
helped mold him into a great player. So that's another
thing for me. Development. Also, he won in three decades,
the late nineties, the two thousands, and the twenty tens.
That's incredible, remarkable and impressive. And this is one of
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the bigger points for me. Most people get stuck their way.
Phil Jackson had to implement the triangle. That's the only
way it works. Well, hey, it's not working with Carmelo
and now I'm still gonna do it. And other coaches
and other people are rigid my way or the highway
from beginning to end, they never evolved. He started off
defensive minded, pile the ball around, drop it down, load
(12:09):
to the twin towers, passed the ball, make sure you
do this, run the clock, and ended up being one
of the more high powered, high scoring, three.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
Point shooting teams.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
And you never thought you would say that about a
Popovich team for the first twenty something years. But he's evolved.
He understood the game is evolving. He changed, and that
takes a real og or real coach to be able
to do that and not be stuck in your waist.
And last, and this is a big one, he spoke
up about issues. He spoke up about injustices. He spoke
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up about things he believed in, things that mattered to him.
He stood on business and I think lot of people
will remember Greg Popovich for that, For standing up for
the rights of others, the marginalized, and just community at large.
Those are the things that I will think about at
Greg Popovich, even just necessarily away from the five titles
and the three Coaches of the Year.
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Even the five titles.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And I'm not trying to nitpick and be Petty never
won back to back and five championships over it spread
out over twenty years. You think that's great. Okay, that's fine,
but that's not special. That's not a three p that's
not a dynasty. When you win three out of four,
three in a row, like five spread out over twenty years,
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it's great. I'm not saying you wouldn't take the five championships.
The difference is when Derek Jeter and the Yankees were
winning their five championships, they won three out of four.
They won three in a row, and four out of five.
When Dallas won their Super Bowls and they were a dynasty,
they won three out of four Super Bowls when the page,
do you see what I'm saying, Like a dynasty, I'm not.
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I'm not discounting it. I don't want people to act
like I'm totally discounting it.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
It's not special.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
I think they were special, meaning winning a three, winning
and five and winning oh seven, just that that run there,
I think that's close enough. And then also winning in
ninety nine before that, So that's so crazy. You got
four titles just right there in a matter of eight
nine years, four and that's that's that's I'll take that
any day. That didn't even mention the one that they
won later in twenty fourteen. I believe it was so.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
I just think it was a remarkable and he did
so many many other things. I think the load management
is absolutely.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
That's a black guy. That's a black guy on his resume.
It's a black guy on his resume.
Speaker 1 (14:31):
I don't think it's a black guy for me, because
I think he did it and justifiably just means anybody
else you're doing it, everybody else is doing it.
Speaker 4 (14:37):
It ain't doing it right.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
No, that just means you didn't buy tickets. If you
think that the load management is good, that means you.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
The pardoner you rob. Nobody was coming to see the
Spurs anyway.
Speaker 3 (14:47):
No, they weren't watching the Spurs naturally, all right, eight
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Speaker 4 (14:55):
It's real simple.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
When you think of Greg Popovich pop and his career,
do you think of the championships and the players he
developed and being able to speak up for other people,
or do you speak about Oh, do you think about
the damage he did with load management? Which one stands
out to you? The most when you think of Greg Popovich,
we love to hear from you. Eight seven, seven ninety
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Speaker 8 (16:16):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Rob robin I talking about Greg Popovich calling his NBA
coaching side of it a career. He will still be
team president for the San Antonio spurs. We're talking about
just how you think of him. Do you blame him
for load management? Is that just a footnote? Which is
what I believe. I look at all the other great things,
the development, speaking up on social issues, winning in different decades,
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the whole nine. Rob says the load management was his
major takeaway. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox. We're
taking your phone calls, so we got Rob.
Speaker 4 (16:48):
Go ahead, you can do it, Kevin, are you looking
at your phone ahead?
Speaker 7 (16:50):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Yeah, yeah, yah, yeah, I don't know if you want to. Okay,
all right, we're taking calls right now. Don't forget you
can call into again. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox.
Let's start it off with let's go to Greg and
Brooke Clai. Greg, you're on with the our couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
No sleep to Brooklyn. What's up, buddy?
Speaker 9 (17:09):
Oh for sure, I gotta say, brap. That's such a
unique take about the look Manson. I wouldn't have thought
of that that first, but I remember that game where
it started. I believe it was a like a standalone
game at night where he sat everybody for no reason,
and it was it was on ESPN.
Speaker 7 (17:27):
I believe it.
Speaker 10 (17:28):
It was just randomly all of them were sitting.
Speaker 9 (17:30):
The other part I think about with when it comes
to pop of it is how he developed the international
players and the team BO. That's one thing that that
suck out to me. I love the show, Love you guys, thank.
Speaker 11 (17:42):
You, thank you, and appreciate that though, thank you, appreciate you.
Uh he said it right off the top though though
that the take about about the load management, because I
really and you know what I mean, people listening probably like.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Yeah, and I forgot about that though.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Maybe that's why I mean, yeah, I think the trickle
of on effect is that it's you know, right wrong,
injured not injured whatever. But it's followed around with his
one of his stars in Kawhi Leonard. It's kind of
filed him for you know, all the other stops now
as well.
Speaker 4 (18:13):
Let's keep the calls rolling again.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
If you want to get in eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox, it's gonna Drew out New Jersey, Drew.
Speaker 6 (18:19):
You're on with the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 12 (18:22):
Hey, guys. The first thing that comes to mind, I
think top of a I think of the words smug.
I just think he's a smug person. Really he talks
down on reporters. M I never appreciated that. He was
never good at the media.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
It was never good on the national game. Do you
remember the way he used to be snide?
Speaker 12 (18:42):
Ye, Yes, just smug, thinks he's smarter than everybody. He's
just elitism. I look at him, and that's just how
I deal.
Speaker 4 (18:50):
No, No, that's no, that's your wind.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
Yeah, yeah, I just never I thought a lot of
that was tongue in cheek, like I'm being I'm being
attitude and no kind of funny. He definitely didn't want
to do those stupid He definitely thought they were stupid,
the little random into the first quarter or third quarter,
like what are we doing here? Which, by the way,
if if they if we literally never saw one again,
Rod Parker, would you even care?
Speaker 7 (19:12):
No?
Speaker 4 (19:12):
But do you even notice that? But that's not the point.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Is that it's a part of bringing the fans closer
to the game, and and that's a part of the
job description.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I don't disagree with that, but I'm saying we seld them.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
I get what you're saying as well, But as long
as we're doing them doing with respect. She has whoever
the sideline reporter has a job, all right, eight seven
seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, I'm just saying, all right, let's go to Trey
in Texas, tray, what's up.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
Happy Friday year with the hot couple of Fox Sports Radio. Hey,
so happy Friday, Yes Friday to you.
Speaker 13 (19:46):
Yeah, I mean I.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
Think it's a great coach. But yeah, I mean I
get that some.
Speaker 14 (19:50):
Of the stuff that he has done, but I appreciate
him a coach at a military veteran.
Speaker 8 (19:58):
Yeah, the little man and the way.
Speaker 14 (20:01):
I was I was really disappointed on what happened with
the whole Sawai Lennard medical staff.
Speaker 8 (20:06):
So, yes, that was disappointing.
Speaker 13 (20:08):
How it could have been better handled.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
And it wasn't right.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And then said, try let me say this to Trey.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The load management even, I mean, you're not bothered by
the load management. Healthy players not playing when people are paying.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
Money to go to games. I think that's a bad thing.
Speaker 7 (20:30):
I do understand.
Speaker 8 (20:31):
Yeah, that would bother me the right way. I mean,
I'm wanting my harder money to see you guys play,
and you're not playing, and.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
You're and you're healthy, you're not hurt, you're healthy.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
All right, Thanks Trey eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well, squeeze in one more yeaheah, we got that. We're
doing uh, we just do Rick in San Antonio. Rick,
you are all with the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Rick? What's up?
Speaker 12 (20:52):
Rick?
Speaker 15 (20:53):
What's up? Guys?
Speaker 13 (20:54):
Love the show?
Speaker 7 (20:55):
Listen to you.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
I'm at thirty minutes drive home.
Speaker 16 (21:00):
But but he I was in San Antonio doing all
those runs. My kids were born in San Antonio, Parker Man,
what are you auditioning on?
Speaker 7 (21:10):
But that man?
Speaker 8 (21:14):
Are you telling me all.
Speaker 16 (21:15):
The stuff that your co workers sit there and.
Speaker 8 (21:18):
Told you how great he was? And you're gonna go
down him swinging on two things this man has done.
Speaker 10 (21:26):
But let's talk about little management. You know what he did.
You gotta help me out a little bit. He did
make the NBA change how many games y'all played back
to back because of people were doing time.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But but I'm talking about, Oh.
Speaker 8 (21:40):
You don't give him no credit for that?
Speaker 3 (21:42):
No, because no, because because that how many NBA fans
paid money to go see a player?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
And when did the rena was like, what you're not playing?
Speaker 8 (21:53):
I agree with all of that of not liking it,
but they were making the play too much. All the
damn time.
Speaker 10 (22:03):
That's why he did it.
Speaker 4 (22:04):
Michael Jordans. Last year he played eighty two games. All
eighty two games.
Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, Rob, he about to drive out the Senate, about
to confind you that Texas swang star cuslaying. I tell
you what, Rob Parker, you better listen up, buddy, start
coming out.
Speaker 6 (22:17):
The more he started talking to you about this.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
All I gotta do is go hide behind the Alamo.
That'll hold him off.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
That's that's what that's what it's good for, right there.
More one more real quick, let's go to John and Boise. John,
you're on with the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 13 (22:35):
Hey fellas, good to talk to you.
Speaker 17 (22:37):
Yes, I put I put Popovich and Lebron James as
the two people responsible for.
Speaker 15 (22:47):
Why the NBA.
Speaker 13 (22:49):
Viewership is down fifty in the last ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 17 (22:53):
I blame I blame them both equally.
Speaker 13 (22:56):
I won't even talk on Lebron because that's what we're
talking about. But on Popovich, Yes.
Speaker 17 (23:00):
He's a great coach x's and o's.
Speaker 13 (23:02):
Obviously, he's got five championships. He deserves those accolades for
what he's accomplished on the court. However, the load management
point that Rob made is excellent. Also, his bringing politics.
Speaker 17 (23:18):
Into what he's doing as a professional coach of a.
Speaker 14 (23:23):
Sports team.
Speaker 8 (23:25):
Turned off a whole lot of people like me.
Speaker 15 (23:28):
He went out of his way to be offensive, just
like he.
Speaker 17 (23:34):
Was to the sideline reporters and to the people in
the press conferences after the game.
Speaker 15 (23:38):
He went out of his way to be offensive and.
Speaker 17 (23:40):
Rude and smug.
Speaker 13 (23:42):
As the other caller said, smug is.
Speaker 15 (23:44):
A great word for him.
Speaker 17 (23:45):
He went out of his way to piss people off
like me when all I wanted to do was watch basketball,
and Lebron and him are the reason why I didn't
watch basketball for years after being a rapid fans for
twenty five years before that, and just in the last
couple of years, I'm coming back and picking it up on.
Speaker 15 (24:08):
Certain teams with certain players because.
Speaker 17 (24:10):
I like how they play in their work ethic. But
pop is a is a is a jerk. He's a jerk. Now, Calvin,
you said that he's got scenes that he's done for the.
Speaker 13 (24:21):
Community this and that.
Speaker 7 (24:23):
I believe you.
Speaker 17 (24:24):
I don't know what those are.
Speaker 13 (24:25):
I think whatever you're doing in those respects is fantastic.
I love those types of things.
Speaker 15 (24:32):
I don't know about him because I tuned him.
Speaker 13 (24:33):
Out a long time ago.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
Hey, let me say this to you. Your car is
patching it. Yeah, I loved it.
Speaker 6 (24:40):
Hey, you know I loved this, John. Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (24:43):
We don't have to agree at all, and I love it.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Kelvin and I don't agree most nights. We don't want
you to call up and agree with us.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
That's great stuff.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
He backed it up with his thoughts and you know,
some good stuff.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
John.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
All right, we'll have some more conversation with our guy
Vintie Goodwill in just a moment, some.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
More vide agree with me.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Oh no, no, I think no, I think he'll be
on my side here. I think yeah, I think VINNI will.
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Speaker 1 (25:17):
We got right now our man Vinnie Goodwill, Vincent Goodwill, y'allhoo.
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Speaker 4 (25:26):
Vinnie, what's up?
Speaker 7 (25:27):
Bro? You know?
Speaker 4 (25:27):
Vinnie? Is he there?
Speaker 7 (25:32):
Yeah? I'm here you guys.
Speaker 6 (25:34):
We got you now.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
Yeh, what's up, buddy? How are you?
Speaker 7 (25:37):
I'm doing good? How about you guys?
Speaker 18 (25:38):
Finally your day off?
Speaker 4 (25:40):
You got it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:41):
I bet yeah. Well, you know Rob's day off is
in Atlanta. We don't know what's gonna be happening a
little later on. Having some good time. Hey, actually, Vinny,
I want to start with the Pistons next series. Let's
go to Popo Vis. Let's get this take real quick.
Oh yeah, good point, good point. Wrap this one up
for us, Vinie. We were just having a conversation Pop.
Amazing career, obviously almost thirty years as Spurs coach. Rob
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says his takeaway, his thought, lasting thought is him creating
the load management and that's.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Kind of his legacy.
Speaker 7 (26:08):
Me.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
It's development, it's speaking up for social issues, and it's
the fact that he changed his style of players from
hard nosed defense to being European centric, shooting, bought three
ball centric.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
That's my lasting thought of him.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
What is yours when it comes to Pop?
Speaker 18 (26:25):
Well, considering got wrote about Pop and his lasting legacy
being one of being flexible as far as the way
that he coached.
Speaker 7 (26:35):
I tend to go with you.
Speaker 18 (26:36):
I don't think about load management as being the first
thing with pop. That's very Rob, that's very simplistic, and
of course you're going to take the low hands.
Speaker 7 (26:45):
It's not.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
All it means, Vinnie, is that you haven't bought tickets
in twenty years to go to an NBA game. That's
what That's what that means. That's why it doesn't affect you,
or you don't care about it seriously because you talk
to Fann.
Speaker 7 (27:01):
You bought a ticket, Rob, I bought.
Speaker 3 (27:02):
I paid five hundred dollars for four tickets to go
to the Lakers game.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
I bought four tickets five hundred dollars each.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
And guess what, there were some players who were not there,
who did not play, who were healthy scratches, And I'm
just saying, you can't talk tell that guy's story without
the load management, which has helped to damage the game.
Speaker 4 (27:22):
So that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 18 (27:24):
Did you put those tickets in the G string? Right?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
Okay?
Speaker 14 (27:30):
No?
Speaker 18 (27:30):
But look, sports science, you're acting like sports science wasn't
going to come with some level of playing with that
that initially started. That was not he was not the
first person to start that or anything like that. I'm
not going to say because he had older players, had
older players sitting every once in a while, that it
became discourage of the NBA.
Speaker 7 (27:50):
Rob, He's better.
Speaker 18 (27:51):
Than that, and I think you should give him a
little bit more of respect than that. This has become
a much bigger thing than him, and he wasn't out
here advocated for that, Like the legacy of Tim Duncan,
David Robinson and that San Antonio franchise which was away
station up until he got there. He gave the stability
and then it turned it into Champions. Rob It's a
lot more than than the stuff that you're talking about.
Speaker 6 (28:14):
Come on, man, well that's what dude pretty much said.
Speaker 4 (28:18):
So let's just do it. Go ahead, Yeah, well yeah,
we'll move on. Nick Knicks Pistons.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
I thought it was a very very fun throwback classic
kind of reminded us of the nineties series.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
I did lose.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
I owe Rob some James, that's the story for that.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
What do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (28:33):
Why?
Speaker 6 (28:33):
Yeah, yeah, you know, James, it's all good.
Speaker 4 (28:35):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6 (28:36):
I got a little too close to the home team.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
That was my problem.
Speaker 1 (28:39):
But uh, let's talk about that series and just maybe
we'll take away Brunson just continue to be clutched, maybe
Kate having to go through the bumps and bruises the
NBA does when you're trying to learn in the playoffs.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Your take on that series.
Speaker 18 (28:51):
I think it was revealing for both teams. I was
talking to a lot of the Detroit people before the
playoffs and I said, playing the Knicks is going to
be the best thing for You're going to be on
national TVs. You're going to have the glare of the
NBA spotlight on you, and it's going to lay bare
all the things that you think you are and the
things that you think you can be. Like now, we
know Detroit is a bona fide basketball franchise now because
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they played the Knicks, and because as much as those
three games hurt, it showed you where you have to
go as a franchise. You do need a number two
for k Cunningham, you do have to figure out where
you're going with you know the Ysar Thompson the world
who had Jalen Brunton in jail unto that very last play.
And for the Knicks, Let's be perfectly honest, the Knicks
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really got lucky to get out of that series. I
don't think any one of us who are saying or
not Knicks fans look at them and say, man, Jalen
Brumpton is really going to take it to the Boston
Celtics the next round. No one thinks they're going to
get more than the game maybe two on the Celtics.
And it's not because we think of the Celtics as
being so great. It's just that we don't think the
New York Knicks are in an upper echelone of Eastern
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Conference teams, that they're not in the class of Boston
and Cleveland. I don't know if we would think that
the Knicks could beat the Cleveland Cavaliers if they matched
up in the second round. There's clearly a gulf between
the Knicks at three and those best two teams in
the Eastern Conference. And I think that's what this series showed.
If you're having problems with the inexperienced Detroit team and
you had help from the officials in one game and
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you wound.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Up getting but they won three homes. They won three
road games in the series.
Speaker 7 (30:22):
Let's not get and they gave and they gave up
two home but they also won.
Speaker 3 (30:26):
But they won three games on the road and closed
out the Pistons choked.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
They could have forced the game six.
Speaker 3 (30:33):
They were up by seven points with two minutes to
go or whatever it was, two thirty game seven.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah, No, are you sticking up?
Speaker 14 (30:40):
What are you sticking up for the virtues of the
New York.
Speaker 4 (30:42):
No, I'm not you know, I'm not.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
You know I'm not alive. I'm just here.
Speaker 4 (30:47):
No, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
I'm just saying, but let me ask you. Let me
ask you this. I do want to go because I
love your takes. But we don't have that much time.
Uh should uh jj Reddick step down? Or should the
Lakers look to move on? He had a terrible coaching
debut in the postseason for the Lakers.
Speaker 4 (31:04):
Can they afford to have him learn on the job?
Speaker 14 (31:07):
Oh my god, Rob anybody who says that, Like, Look,
he didn't comport himself the best at the press concause
he's a bit wound tightly. But he did a really
good job retro fitting that team on the fly, getting
them to play really good defense.
Speaker 7 (31:23):
And yeah, he got taken to the woodshed a little bit.
Speaker 18 (31:25):
By Chris Finch in that first round series. But we
tell players all the time, players have to go through
learning lessons here. I think people want to knock JJ
Redick off his perse because he spoke very pompously when
he was a member of the media and he came
from Duke and everything else. I totally get that part.
But you can separate the persona from the head coach
and even sometimes how he conducted himself as a head coach,
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being short and everything else. But I think he's a
really good coach. My question is is he going to
be loan for this? Does he have the temperament or
is he going to be wound so tightly through eighty
two games. I don't think he lacks the acumen to
be a head coach. I think this is a thing
that people learn at, especially watch.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
It after watching him play a forty year old the
whole second half in in the biggest game of the
of the season.
Speaker 7 (32:13):
It's not a great look.
Speaker 18 (32:14):
But let's be honest, that roster wasn't exactly a world
beating run.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
So wait a minute, Okay, let me ask you this, Vinnie,
Because everybody in their uncle in the media picked the
Lakers not only just to win the first round series,
they picked them to go to the finals. Oh there's
nobody in the way, Luca Lebron. And now after they lose,
all I've heard is the rosters no good. So what
did you pick before this series? Did you have them
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going to the finals?
Speaker 7 (32:40):
Well?
Speaker 18 (32:40):
I picked them to win the series. I didn't pick
them to go to the finals?
Speaker 3 (32:43):
Okay, but am I right about most people picked them
to go to the finals?
Speaker 4 (32:46):
A lot of those did?
Speaker 7 (32:48):
We did.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
No, I'm just saying that now everybody's saying they don't
have a roster. How could you pick a team to
go to the finals if you thought that they didn't
have a roster.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I'm not saying you but that that doesn't make sense.
Speaker 7 (33:01):
Rob, because we don't know everything. For one, we're just
the media.
Speaker 18 (33:04):
And for two, people were seduced by Lebron James, and
they were seduced by watching what Luka doncs did last
year and carrying the Dallas Mavericks to the finals. And
clearly everybody has been saying Luka Doncic out of shape,
Lebron James Old.
Speaker 7 (33:19):
Even if you.
Speaker 18 (33:20):
Believe the Lakers were going to the finals, you knew
those two variables were going to come up in place.
It was spoke to more, Rob, People didn't believe in
the Minnesota Timberwolves this year more than they believed in
the Los Angeles Lakers. And I think what we saw
was if they played the Lakers, if they played the Clippers,
the Nuggets, the Warriors, or the Temblewlelves, all of these
flaws would have gotten laid bare. And the Temples are
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a really good team. We got to give them some
credit to Anthony Edwards.
Speaker 7 (33:44):
Is real.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
All right, Vinnie, Man, appreciate you so much. As always.
We'll do it again soon.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
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Speaker 4 (34:51):
We're tied at one thirteen. Here in game six, Brunston
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Speaker 4 (35:00):
The Kluck Player of the Year will not be tonight.
Speaker 6 (35:04):
I'm sorry, why would y'all play that? I'm back, I'm right,
all right, all right?
Speaker 7 (35:08):
So yeah that it is?
Speaker 6 (35:09):
Thank you?
Speaker 4 (35:11):
Yeah, yeah, he did well.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
I can't confront. Courtesy a Knicks Radio Network. There it's
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Speaker 2 (35:16):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole base for Rob Parker's
day Dix against the Scrap.
Speaker 4 (35:28):
How'd you do? All right? Shackle City two and one
last night?
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Yay?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
One sixteen and one eighteen is a total Sorry about that,
and my best bet, I do have the rockets tonight.
Speaker 3 (35:43):
I think they're getting uh five and a half rockets
plus five and a half. I got the reds and
the Padres. My Reds are my best bet, and I
just my notes. You're not in front of me, Sorry
about that, but I have the Reds, the Padres in
the in those two games, all right, I remember, Calvin,
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what's that. I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I better. I know we're real late,
and I won't wait. Sure we get into this thing, Okay,
So go ahead, Kelvin. You know the one thing you
got to admit was, did I when the Knicks won yesterday?
Speaker 4 (36:21):
Did I text you? Did I call you? Did I
harass you? Did I don't any think? No, I'll give
you that. I will.
Speaker 6 (36:26):
You know what, We've talked a lot of smack.
Speaker 1 (36:28):
Now, granted you get excited when we get ready to
do a radio show about you know, certain things, but.
Speaker 4 (36:32):
That's just me right.
Speaker 1 (36:33):
Yeah, you you handled it really with a lot of respect,
and honestly, you know me, you know that was a
heart bet.
Speaker 6 (36:40):
I do think I do think they could have beat
the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
I mean, obviously they played well, but yeah, you handled
it well and it was really good series too. I'm like,
I'm not mad at the series from a basketball fans standpoint,
and even from a fan of the Pistons because they
played hard, they're learned, and you know this covering the
league since nineteen eighty seven. They had to get their licks,
they're bumps, their bruises and and go through this. This
is kind of part of the course.
Speaker 3 (37:02):
I just I did not think they were going to
win the series because of the ramifications that were meant
would have meant for the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (37:10):
I really and that was the.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Basis of my idea, seriously, was that what would have
changed with that franchise had they lost to the Pistons
would have been a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:20):
You think it's if they get swept by the Celtics,
does it change, Like I mean, the Tips still on
the hot seat.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
I mean, they might not like them as much. But
to lose to an upstar team that won fourteen games
a year before in the first round.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
Was supposedly the two better players too, you know, And yeah, yeah,
I totally get it.
Speaker 4 (37:41):
But I want the Jordans. I want my kids. Well
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