May 22, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether the Indiana Pacers took Game 1 or if the New York Knicks gave it away, tell us where Tyrese Haliburton’s game-tying basket at the end of regular ranks amongst the greatest shots in postseason history, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, The Athletic national NBA reporter Mike Vorkunov swings by to set the scene from inside Madison Square Garden for Game 1, how the Knicks can bounce back after committing what some are calling the biggest choke job in NBA Playoffs history, what makes Haliburton so special, and much more!
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What up?
Speaker 5 (01:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
What a game last night that was?
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That was absolutely fun man, And we were talking about
yesterday robbed the twenty four percent drop in the Western
Commerce final. I don't know if we got those numbers
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Speaker 4 (02:34):
The Nicks and the Pacers, and uh, you have an
interesting take on this.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, let's just go back
to the setup of Uh, these two teams matched up
last year. You and I talked about it. Obviously, Jalen Brunton.
How kind of changes. If you're the Nicks, you say,
this is what would have been if he played, and
so on and so forth. But the two teams get here,
we're excited about it, Rivalry renewed. They played like six
times in the nineties, ninety three to two thousand, So
a little bit of hyper not to mention Pacer fan
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getting beat up by with some garbage backs, So a
little bit of hype going into this one man, And
I mean the biggest thing for me. We'll break it down,
but you jump straight to the headline. And I'm sure
a lot of people either went to bed rob or
woke up today saying that the Knicks choked. And I
completely understand that, and Tyreus Halliburton did the Regi Miller choke.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
But to me, this was different than the Regie Miller one.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This to me was an absolute offensive clinic from the
last three minutes and fourteen seconds into overtime as well
from the Indiana Pacers. And every now and again you
have to just tip your cap to somebody. Every now
and again, you just gotta tip your cap to a team.
And I think that's what we saw last night. The
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Knicks were playing phenomenally. The Knicks were controlling the game.
The Knicks were on fire, and the Knicks were playing
at an offensive rate. They had not played in the
playoffs for the most of the playoffs this season, so
they were doing everything right. They were keeping them under check,
they were getting all the buckets they needed. Your two
duos finally had a great game together. We have not
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seen Carlthony Towns ball the heck out and Jaylen Bronson
do it at the same time to the tune of
seventy eight points. So to me, we just saw something historic.
I think that's what we witnessed. We saw something we'd
never seen before. When you start to dive into these numbers, Well,
what you saw from Nie Smith you never seen before. Right,
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he goes six threes in the fourth quarter, which is
a playoff in the fourth quarter, which is playoff record.
You have Tyree's Halliburton setting records when it comes to
what he's doing in the clutch, we'll get to that
a little bit later on in this show. You had
a team that was able to score forty something points
from five minutes left in the game into the overtime
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
If for Nie Smith not to miss a three, not
to miss his free throws, Halliburton hit a couple buckets
as well. To me, I just think we an offensive clinic.
We saw a guy get on fire to the tune
that we've never seen. And I think the Knicks were gassed,
without a doubt. But when your duo gives you seventy
eight points, you score a bunch of points.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You even score.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It wasn't like it was a twenty zero run like
the Knicks did to the Pistons in round one.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
They scored the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They scored eight points in the last several minutes, and
they scored ended up being twenty four points the last
five minutes in overtime, so they were scoring buckets. I
just simply think we saw something historic. We saw something
we'd literally never seen. And I think that offensive explosion
of what the Pacers are capable of, they put that
on them. So to me, there was a letdown. They gassed,
without a doubt, they got gassed. But the Pacers flat
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out won that thing. They stole that thing, and they
did something we never seen offensively, and get I tipped
my cap to them more so than the Knicks choked.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You're crazy, and nobody's buying that what you're selling because
the guy himself and you even mentioned it. I'm glad
you did, But for the guy himself to make a
choke sign tells you that he believes that what just
took place was a choke job.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Everybody else watching except you and I don't care what
they did.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
The Pacers and I get it seven for seven and
the Knicks missed twelve free throws out the game.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
The Knicks did not do what they needed to do
to seal that game.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And when you talk about seeing something you never saw before,
and you don't think it's a choke. In the previous
nine hundred and ninety four games where somebody led by
fourteen points with two minutes and thirty eight seconds, the
record was nine hundred and ninety four and zero, that's
an automatic win. I don't care what anybody else the
other team is doing. It's a choke job. No, it's
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a choke job. You have to win that game. The
idea that you could call it anything else. The Pacers
will call it a choke. Announcers call it a choke,
Knicks called it. Knicks call it a choke. They didn't
go there, and you're not tipping your cap. I don't
care what they did insecure what is almost an automatic
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absolute win.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
The almost a thousand games were that same scenario. If
it wasn't, you wouldn't look at it that way. It
would have been.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But that's my point thought. I'm not I'm glad you
brought it up. No, because that's a history. No, it's
it never happens. No, But it's the ultimate choke job.
This is a game you were supposed to win.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Go look at any other scenario or circumstance, and you
can't come up with this and think, oh, yeah, let's
just tip our cap to They have to do their part.
That's always a case for any team that chokes. So
this is not new, And I get what you're saying, Oh, well.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
They made this.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, we just saw Cleveland choke at the end right
against the Pacers. We saw the Boston Celtics choke. But
even in the Celtics case, with the Knicks twenty point
lead in the second half, not with two thirty eight left,
there's a big difference. The Celtics choked down a twenty
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point lead in the second half. They didn't choke down
a twenty point lead in the last two minutes and
thirty eight seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Now, I'm glad you said all that because that goes
back to my point. If this doesn't happen in a
thousand games, that shows you that this is the anomaly.
This is the thing that never happens before. This being
a team scoring twenty three points in a final three
to fourteen regulation, the most in the regulation of a
playoff game in the play by play era, again never happens.
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Nee Smith finished with thirty, going eight for nine and three,
including six threes in the fourth quarter every one. So
that's my point, that never happens, right, And that's why
it's a choke because it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's you're looking.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
At it the other way, right, we are. That's why
we are a couple in this. No, but that's not
what no one is gonna agree with and that no
one is going to agree with you because it's a choke.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Job. That's a game you have to win. Guy, point
six from three like that does not happen.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
No, But it doesn't matter because if the Knicks would
have done what they should have done, which is not
allow them, right, Okay, you just said the guys hot
on it on the threes, then maybe you have to
make sure that you can't give him airspace.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Try it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
No, they took their foot off the gas thinking the
game was over and they got burned. And we've seen
this teams against what you want to read a stat
there's like five games that have happened where a team
has come back from a ridiculous amount of points at
the end.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Right, I'm gonna get I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But it's like five games and the teams will come
back are like five and one, and the Praisers have
done it three times this year. And when you looked
at it, you didn't go, oh yeah, well, the idea
that Tyrese Halliburton would grab his throat tells you because
he knows deep down.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
He didn't go, oh my god, we just did something
that was un never been done. And did you see that?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No anybody who played basketball would look at that and
go they choke.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And here's what I'm saying, show number one, he absolutely
was gonna do that because a Reggie Miller's there, b
they stole the game from him. I get that, But
what I'm saying that that's a choke sogn what I'm saying.
But what I'm saying is plain that it's what I'm
saying is literally because Reggie Miller is sitting there.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Rob, what does that have to do with what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is they stole the game for sure out a doubt
and he so why would he mat because it's a
celebration from a comeback that Regi Miller did and they
did And if you want to call him choke job,
that is the easy thing to do.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm not mad at that, duh. I think I think
most of what you're saying is true. Everybody's gonna say
the truth. I viewed it as watching that game, going, man, okay,
you gotta get a stop. The Pacers don't get a stop.
You gotta get a stop. They don't get a stop.
You got okay, you follow him? They make a free throw,
they didn't make one, and the Pacers come down and
all of a sudden three three, and you're like, wait
a minute, they're in this game, and they kept competing
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and they stole it. And then to me, they went
out there and took that game. That's all I'm saying.
It wasn't as if the Knicks couldn't score. They did score,
It wasn't And if Jalen Brunton had a terrible game and.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Only that score forty three points, not scoring is not
the way you could choke a game. You could also
choke a game by by not defending and not stopping
the other team from scoring and making the right plays
and making free throws.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You even talked about it. That free throw. You don't
think that changes the.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Game that But my point is they only missed a couple.
It wasn't like donas straight dude six threes and he
didn't miss. Rob Halliburton hits a big three knee, they
got overtime, and then Niem Barber hits a three like
they literally were hitting everything to the tune of Halliburton,
who is now our Is he the most clutch dude
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in the NBA? Did he snatched that title from Jalen Brunton.
We'll talk about that later in the show. And I
get the I get the choke. I totally get it.
I knew he was gonna do it real time, don't.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I don't know how you could look at at Halliburton
who makes a choke sign and then say it wasn't
a choke.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But because that is an immediate response, No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
If you did something that was unbelievable that no one
had ever done, you don't have to do a choke thing.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It was a choke game. You are a man who
loves history. He's well versed. They know they talked about
the again, you're one of your mentors, Reggi Miller. You're
in New York. We literally know what Reggi Miller did
in Madison score guard to the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
So what I'm saying is that Reggie Miller was at
a choke job by the Knicks when they lost that game.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But that was a choke job because there's eight seconds left.
But but Reggie made all a shot, So why why
is it what would for?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It was only eight doesn't matter, right, I had to
score a bunch of points from three minutes. I had
to carry into overtime and continue the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
The Knicks things did what Reggie Miller did where he
scored nine points in eight seconds or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I know that was watching that live was my favorite
basketball moments. Well that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I know what I'm saying people are like the Knicks choked,
And that's what Reggie said because he knew that that
that shouldn't have happened that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Because I'm saying that was an eight seconds you're up
like that with eight seconds, I'm saying this one, the
Pacers literally paced themselves and found a way to come
back and make every shot they made. It wasn't like
they were missing, and they just made every shot from
there on all. So to me, they did something historic.
I give them a lot of credit. And the Knicks
have to make blunders that you can't come back without that,
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So it's not as if they're inexcusable or they're you know,
there's not any blame on the Knicks without a doubt.
But I'm saying I watched that thing and a large
portion of that, to me was man and the Pacers
went out and stole that game. They took it from them,
and they made historic shots that we've literally never seen.
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Let's start.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
With Rob and Queens. You're on the Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up Rob Man.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It's good to hear you, guys with always Man.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yes, yes, you know, Rob, that was.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
The biggest jabs across the Strangler.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yes, here you go.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yes, sir, there's no if and I'm a Knicks fan.
Ain't no if and buts about it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It was.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It was bad, Oh really bad.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It will go down in the history books in sports
for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Top five, top five.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It will definitely, it might be top three, like people
because nine hundred and ninety four and oh when you
had a fourteenth per I mean that you cannot give
that game up. Amazing.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Take care of guys.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I appreciate your Rob appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Hey Drew in New Jersey, you're on the YD couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Drew?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
As he punched up, Drew start over, drews all over.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I think that was one of the crazier I think
it's definitely a choke job. I think the only game
I can really think of that that reminds you of
was T Max thirteen. What was it thirteen? Yeah, that
was crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, Hey Drew, let me throw this at you and Rob.
So in the fourth quarter, the next shot fifty five
percent from the field, which was better than Indiana. They
only turned the ball over twice. They won the rebound battle.
If you only turn the ball over twice in a quarter,
that means you have eight in a game. That's amazing.
And then they won the rebound battle, shot a better
free throw percentage, and have more attempts. So I'm not
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saying again, you have to do a couple of few
bad things. The thing I'm saying is they didn't. It's
not like they performed horribly and all of a sudden
just completely lost themselves. The Pacers just went crazy. To me,
I just have never seen a guy hit literally not
missed six threes. You ain't never seen. That was just
to me, I'm watching something I'd never seen. It almost
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became comical and laughable. And how well the Pacers played
in a three minute stretch. So I get the knicks again.
It's I totally get you had a lead, you should
have won.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Get that. Okay, that's what I say. That's what a
choke is that. That's like what you ever come back?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Now you never can do, so anytime somebody comes back,
it's choke.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
No, I didn't say that's what you said a comeback?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I said, But but that's usually when you have a
lead or something and you're supposed to win that game,
not a close game or something. But like, I don't
look at the same if somebody has a twenty point
lead in the first quarter, that's not a choice in
the first quarter, first half.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I it's not a choke job. Completely, get that. I'm
not talking about that.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
That's when when the Celtics even lost those games, it
was twenty points in the second half.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
It wasn't with two thirty eight to go. And I'm fourteen, Like,
if you just take your time, let them foul you
do you do? You know what I mean? Like I
hear no, I'm ninety I'm gonna go this on.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I just I'll give this to you, and ninety eight
point nine percent is on. I'm totally with you. I
just and I totally. I knew that there's a chance
that nobody can feel me. I think, Robgie, you think
you feel a little bit. But I watched that and
just said, oh, the Knicks aren't playing horribly. The Pacers
literally just doing on fire and away. I mean, Nie Smith.
It became comical because he'shitting one. You're like, all right,
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the kind of hit another one? You're like, all right,
just stay in this thing. A little bit hits another
you're like, wait a minute, hold on. Then Holliburton hits
a three, and you're like, wait a freaking minute, are
they gonna have the nerve to try to win this thing?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But here's the thing is the player themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And that's why I'm just saying, even anybody who's playing
out there, they know they shouldn't have won that game,
and that the Knicks choked down. Seriously, that's why he
did that. If this was some unbelievable crazy you know
what I mean, like like that one and you just
have to tip your cap to him. There are those moments,
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but even he knew and I know Reggie's there and
you're doing the choke thing, but you had to feel
like they choked.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh my god, Like do you see what I'm saying
you on paper? I totally get. That's not that's not
like if.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
He didn't do that, and he really felt like, oh
my god, this was like something sight unseen or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Whatever. I don't think you do that.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You do that because you know that there's no way
you should win that game with two thirty eight left
and down by fourteen.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't. They had to do something to not seal
that game, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And I all joke, I completely get the logic behind
the choke, but what you just said is exactly my point.
The Pacers had to do something, the Pacers specifically that
we'd never seen before to pull this thing off.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And they did that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And when he does the choke job, when he did
the choke job, they actually didn't win it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They had to go still win.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That thing in overtime, because right, I mean, it was
gonna be amazing, right, you walk off to walk off three,
it's been amazing, and they still got to go to
overtime and win. They could have lost that game and
now he would have looked crazy with a choke job
then end up losing.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, but I'll give you one. Okay, same thing.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You say something we haven't seen nineteen eighty six, the
ball goes through Bill Buckler's legs to lose a World
Series game. We had never seen that, And you go, oh, okay,
well something that No, that's a ball he should catch,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And people always looked at that and was a choke
And of course they wind up not winning the World Series.
But I just think you have to do the other
part anybody looking at it, I just I don't think anybody.
I shouldn't say anybody, you didn't, but most people, and
I like what they were by fourteen with two and
a half minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
If you went to bed, but then if you watched
the last you know, you got up and you were
rushing your teeth and watching it on your phone. That's
my whole point, Rob, I completely get that, Like it's
not I think most people are just gonna immedately jump
to the show for me seeing how they want it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Like when you use the Buckner example, he missed that.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
There's not a lot of Nick examples of what you're
saying that I know the historic what I'm saying, like
the did it you see what I'm saying, Like, let's
say that the Knicks missed eight free throws in a row.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Okay, the did you just look at the Mets on
the other side and say, well, they had two doer
down to their last strike, they got a single, they
got another single to another. Yeah, they put hits together,
but Bill Buckler still missed the ball and for the
for the red Sox. It was a choke in that
they could have won the World Series had they secured
that game. That that's why people look at it and
say it's a choke.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think for me that when I get more, the
Pacers had mixed out. But we'll yeah, we got more
on this in just a little bit.
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Get ready to talk to More Hoops with Mike Vorkanov,
National NBA and basketball business supporter for the Athletic Uh
now here's some interesting Rob. Everybody left, right, it's over.
Game's over, except one man and another man. They stayed
and that Mike was one of the two that stuck around. Mike,
what's up man? Tell us about it, Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh, hey, guys, I mean that was that was a
crazy That was the most insane game I've ever been,
ever been to, and definitely one of the craziest I
can remember watching.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well talk but I'll just say my piece, I'll let
Rob say his, and then you're just kinda put the
final button when we were discussing, I think it was
natural for everyone to like say, oh, it was a
choke job by the Knicks, and you might say that
as well. But for me, having watched it, I thought
we saw something historic. Neie Smith literally hit six threes
in under three four minutes left in the game. Holler
Burton hitting big shots. To me, I have to say
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they did something historic on the offensive end that we
never did. Because the Knicks out they outshot them, they
out rebound them, they only turned the ball over twice.
You'd say, there's no way I did everything I'm supposed
to do, and yet the Pacers found a way way.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'm not buying that at all.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I mean, even Halliburton used the choke sign because it
was an ultimate choke. Nobody left that building thinking, oh wow,
I just watched the Paces put on an unbelievable show.
At the end of the game, they'd looked at it,
Mike and said, the Knicks show.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yeah. I mean, listen, I think the fact when you
blow a fifteen point lead with you know, four and
a half minutes ago, eleven point leads with two minutes
like nine was fourteen, right, yeah, yeah, So like it's
hard to say, that's not that you don't choke that
game away, right, Like that's a win, that should be
a win. That's a win ninety nine point nine percent
of the time. Uh, the Pacers were awful, Like Aaron
(23:31):
Nesmith did things that I think we all thought Aaron
Nesmith was not capable of.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Right, Well, wait a minute, he invented basketball, didn't he. Oh,
I'm sorry that, I'm sorry. That was a great great Gret,
Gret great great great grandaddy.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I got it. Yeah. So, I mean it's it's in
his blood, that kind of shooting six threes in one quarter,
Like I looked it up today after the fact. He's
played forty seven playoff games before this one and he
scored twenty points one then he did twenty points in
four and a half minutes in the fourth quarter at
MSG and then uhould Conference finals. Yeah. I think the
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Knicks could have done some other stuff to kind of
like help themselves along the way. But it's just the Pacers.
The Pacers were often and any time that you give
a game away like that, it just it can be
both things. Both the Pacers were great and the Knicks
just choked it away. And I think that's what we saw.
And then I mean that shot by Haliburn, like that's
gonna go down with one of the all time great shot.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna be honest when when
he made the shot, I I thought of one person
and one person only, Kevin Durant when he made the
game winning shot and his toe was on to remember,
that would have knocked the Milwaukee Bucks out of the playoffs, right,
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and they.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Would have never won the championship. Just think about that.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
He made the shot, but it was a tie instead
of a winner.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I mean, change right, I will say the flake. Look
by the last like three minutes in OT and MSGU
was just you know, tight, and they were silent, and
they were quiet for most of the time. And the
loudest part of that whole time, see the loudest ovation
of the whole night was after Haliburton shot. The jumbo
tron does a replay and just zoomed in on his
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foot and when they saw the foot on the line,
MF she exploded, which I kind of told you how
everything was going there.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I saw people over there near him too, holding up
two fingers like it's two you know too.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
They've never been so happy for somebody else to score,
but just not be it two.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
It's not three. It was oh my god, all right, Mike,
So now mix gas.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You lose one, you choked it away, the Pacers won
at whatever you want to say, how do you bounce back?
Because one thing we know the Pacers, I believe it's
like thirty one and two when they score one hundred
and twenty points or more. Meaning I don't know if
the Knicks want to play at that pace again. I
think they thought, look at us were scoring. Cats going
crazy brought some great I don't know if they can
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outpace the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
No, they definitely don't want to play that fast like
the Knicks were doing. They're playing their style for most
of the game, you know, like they have a short rotation,
so they don't want to play up and down the court, right.
They want to be physical with you. They want to
get on the boards when Mitchell Robinson is in the game,
like they want to keep the ball in Jalen Bruston's hands.
You know, it's interesting to watch kind of like the
two teams on offense, the Knicks are kind of like
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very ISO ball heavy. The Pacers are always moving the
ball and Haliburton's trying to find open guys, you know.
And I think that took a toll on New York
physically to have to play that way for forty eight minutes.
And that's what Indianapolis does right to all their opponents.
And now they have to recover from it. And I'm
curious what they do, Like they've played well for most
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of the game. Mitchell Robinson game Indy a lot of
problems the way he was playing. They couldn't really handle
it for his twenty one minus on the court. And
Kat had thirty plus points. And you know, I think
Michael Bridges did a really good job defending Calburt.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And for you gotta win that game. When you get
all that, that's the thing. You you just got all
those things, all those things go right. Hey, I want
to give you one stat This is that I was
looking for earlier.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Since nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety seven season, teams that
have trailed by seven or more in the final fifty
seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime in the playoffs
are four and one, which is a seven oh two
winning percentage.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Ready four and one. The Pacers have three of those
wins this year. Crazy. Think about what I just said.
They have three this year. Before that, going back to
ninety six nineties, it was only one and one. So
rod It won three. That's my point. This is what
they do, Mike and Rob, this is what they do.
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Cleveland choked against them, and I can't remember the other
game they choked.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You watched the game here. They chose Cleveland. Okay, it
was different. Nee Smith went six for six and three.
It's crazy, all right. What was the mood of people
leaving squad? Because people had to be sick?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
I mean sad. I'm just gonna put like sad, all caps,
three letters, nothing else. It was just everyone's quiet. Like
usually the stairways of MSG are allowed. You know, everyone's
talking trash, they're screaming, you know, Bleach Trey Young. This
time it was just nothing. You know, this is that
kind of told you where all the fans were, where
the franchise was after game one, and so it was
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a big mental you know, it's a big mental hurdle
that they're gonna come back from the game because losses
like this are just so hard to come back from.
Because you had Game one at home. Home court advantage
is now gone. Right, you had a win, You had
a win all wrapped up, not even a home court advantage,
but like you need four wins. You want to get
so many chances at him, and you had that wrapped
up and you lost it, and now you know that
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you're going to have to do this again. And like
I think one of the interesting talking points in the
Celtics mix series was, hey, if it's close, the Knicks
have Brunton and the Celtics don't, so they can't keep
it close. Well, now that goes for the Pacers, right,
Like they have this ineffable quality to just always win
these games late and make these comebacks and as that
can be you know, hovering over Game two when they play, and.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
If you're the Pacers, you have ultimate confidence now, right,
You just you just won a game you had no
business winning. And you've done this now three times in
this postseason. And now going in they already got what
they wanted, which they came to New York for a split.
They could go for the jugular tomorrow Friday, right, they
can go for the juggling.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I think they're five to one on the road to
this postseason yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean look absolutely, and like Rick Carlo after
the game called their god and make make these comebacks
like it's like working a muscle. Now they're like Schwarzenegger
on Venice Beach with how often they've done it, Like
this is this is just something they do better than
any other team in the league. And really, like I don't.
I mean, you guys know the league much better than
I do, but like, can you remember another team being
able to do this so frequently?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, it's a different era, Michael, I mean, because this
is just this playoffs alone. Rob and I sit here
and do the show, and and we see this happening.
You know, all these games where the teams are up twenty,
we kind of start doing our show. Look up a
game like, wait, they're only up three, Like it happened
so many times throughout this postseason so far. We still
got several games to go. But no, all right, so
you who you got Game two real quick for us?
How you can the Nicks bounce back? You who you
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got Pacers go up to.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
I'll say the Knicks tied up. I always thought this
is gonna be a seven, seven game series, so I
think they'll tie it up. But I don't think they
go back to Indy one one and that's a good
place to be anymore. So I think they'll win this game,
and like they'll learn from their mistakes. But I think
every game you play Indian and you play at their
pace and their style, it kind of just wears on
you going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
All Right, there you have it, Mike. We appreciate you, man,
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
So much for joining anytime. Guys.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
All right, give them a follow Mike Vorkinov on X,
give them a follow a Ut what a game that was?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That he said, they've walked out sad, not even sick
or man, they walked out sad.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I believe it.
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All Right, Rob helped me, I remember, but I can't remember,
like I've the tuned, I can't remember the show different strokes,
different strokes, different strokes, famn, diffense strokes for the web. Okay,
I told you, like, I know the song, but I
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Speaker 4 (31:33):
In my college days when we were just bored to death, Yeah,
we would watch that show and just wait for him
to say, what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Willis? And then we turn it off. All right, that's
all we read right at the door, and then we
could go to class after that.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Right, what was the over under per episode was about
one and a half only one.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I've never seen an episode where we did it twice
because you had to wait for it.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
That was it. Look at me, what you're talking about? Willis?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I still use that phrase, and I wonder how many
people actually have no idea what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Younger people might not. Now it's the oncover of.
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Speaker 3 (32:20):
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Speaker 1 (32:30):
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Wait, wait, wait, wait, you didn't say it. Do I
really sound like that? You always say that when you
hear yourself?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Did I do that? I do that? I sound like that.
I think I sound a good voice. Every time you
hear yourself, you go, do I sound like that?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Sometimes I hear stuff and I'm like that I don't
sound right? All right? Yeah, thank you tiger. I was
two and one last night. One thirty four. One thirty
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Speaker 4 (32:59):
Okay, Minnesota Timberwolves plus seven and a half tonight, I'm
gonna go that with the best bet I am.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That game was close until the fourth game. What they
just went crazy on him?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Right Atlanta minus one and a half runs in Washington.
I'm already looking up at the score. It ain't too
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And of course the Brewers minus one and a half.
They are in Pittsburgh taking on the Pirates, so you're good.
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and the Brewers minus one and a half. And remember,
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Let's get to this right now. It is time for
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Speaker 3 (34:00):
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Speaker 1 (34:10):
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Speaker 3 (34:33):
The way tied buying should be. Yeah, which one more dramatic?
Shoot that that wellaw kawhis won it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
If this would have won it even though about high
and it went through. I think you always gotta go
with the one that won the game, right.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, he thought he wanted everybody's gonna crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I thought he wanted it. I'm like, oh my gosh,
that was insane. Yeah, that Kawhi one broke. We ain't
saying Joe llmb since all.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Right, real quick or Ben Simmons, b think about where
that could have done at that point?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
What what that would have worked? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Like like you forget that was the whole thing to
get there and they would have won that game.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Process. Dude, I'm being serious when I said, so we
keep talking about these one little thing that.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Right, maybe Brooklyn becomes a powerhouse and wins two championships
and hardened stays and and and all that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Like there's so many different things, man, I can think
of a few of those.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But with Ben Simmons, is it athletic or if what
I believe, it's mental? Like I just like he can't
fall that hard where you literally forget he's in the NBA,
he was an All Star, he's rookie. Like he's a
really quality player, a good player. Arguably he was up
(35:48):
for Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
But he fall. It's mental. It's like mental something to
not even take shots, like like like like your basketball player,
like like what what what what would be there to
stop you from taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And when he shoots care free, it's a good looking
shot when he shoots care free, not thinking.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
But it's some mental block there, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And I don't want to sit up here and be
hy therapist, but I'm just like man because he's too
You can't walk around here, great shape, six' ten, fast you,
know can. Dribble it's like you're literally just an expendable
piece like.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Me Different and you, know like you look at somebody
and think they have all the confidence in the world
because of the way they, look but mentally and, underside
they don't have the.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Confidence and then you see other people who don't look
like too much and they're as confident as can. Be
and you go any walk of.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Life, yep it's that dude who you THINK i know,
goodwell he was about to walk up to her at the.
Bar yes, see he walked right up to her and
she get to. Giggling the next, thing back in our,
day she's writing her number on a. Napkin you're like.
Him she just this the Boars kucho looking dude over.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
There how that? Happen? Yeah, man confidence is something in
all facets of.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Life but, yeah, Man Ben, simmons LIKE i literally, forgot
oh he's a. Clipper it would have Changed emmons as
a clipper and didn't even, So, YEAH i wonder IF
i wonder SOMETIMES i think it's the first time you're
up against. IT i, mean he probably was bigger and
better than his entire life of everybody right going up In.
Australia Just i'm my dad, Played i'm better than. Everybody
(37:22):
i'm more. Gifted get to, College i'm better than, everybody more.
Gifted AND i don't know if like it's the first
time you're ever like shocked that it's.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Just not that, easy you know WHAT i?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Mean and oh you MEAN i gotta go back and
work on my. Game everythingle something. HAPPENED i, mean just
the thirty for thirty is gonna hit you know where
something happened and you, know you just don't have the same.
Confidence you don't believe in yourself for something goes on
or something clicks to tell you that, no you're you're
not that, guy you, KNOW i mean from the out
(37:53):
and you can't go body? Outside is there a yips
kind of a thing like you, mean because, dude, again
his trajectory was like, this like, Oh he's only gonna
get better and. Better and you just, wonder like if
something happened where he just can't get past.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
It Remember MARK. L fultz had that for a little
while where he just he never wound up being what
he was supposed to be the first overall.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Pick it just kind of, like, yeah he just couldn't
he couldn't shoot. Anymore he just got. WEIRD i don't,
know that's and that's why rest in, Peace Greg. HARDEN
i told you how you, know my best friend's, pops
and he's just kind of a sports counseling guru to
The Tom, Brady's Michael, phepps The Charles woods and The
Desmon howards of the, world and a bunch of people
will never know of because they, were you, know middling,
(38:33):
wrestlers but they would go talk to. Him and if
you read his, book you just learned so much of this. Stuff,
yeah people are, Athletic yeah they're, fast so they. Catch
but if everything ain't going right in the inside of you, mentally, emotionally,
spiritually then it won't necessarily matriculate to the. Outside so,
Yeah i've just thought About ben, Simmonsly, Yo, kitch we
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Speaker 5 (01:26):
Man?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
What a game last night that was?
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That was absolutely fun man, And we were talking about
yesterday robbed the twenty four percent drop in the Western
Commerce final. I don't know if we got those numbers
of the Eastern Comers final we do no things were
up now obviously New York being in their helps, but
point is ratings were up, and you never know what
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I like that, Okay a little bit. Yes, all right, Uh,
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Speaker 4 (02:34):
The Nicks and the Pacers, and uh, you have an
interesting take on this.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, I mean, first and foremost, let's just go back
to the setup of Uh, these two teams matched up
last year. You and I talked about it. Obviously, Jalen Brunton.
How kind of changes. If you're the Nicks, you say,
this is what would have been if he played, and
so on and so forth. But the two teams get here,
we're excited about it, Rivalry renewed. They played like six
times in the nineties, ninety three to two thousand, So
a little bit of hyper not to mention Pacer fan
(03:01):
getting beat up by with some garbage backs, So a
little bit of hype going into this one man, And
I mean the biggest thing for me. We'll break it down,
but you jump straight to the headline. And I'm sure
a lot of people either went to bed rob or
woke up today saying that the Knicks choked. And I
completely understand that, and Tyreus Halliburton did the Regi Miller choke.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
But to me, this was different than the Regie Miller one.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
This to me was an absolute offensive clinic from the
last three minutes and fourteen seconds into overtime as well
from the Indiana Pacers. And every now and again you
have to just tip your cap to somebody. Every now
and again, you just gotta tip your cap to a team.
And I think that's what we saw last night. The
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Knicks were playing phenomenally. The Knicks were controlling the game.
The Knicks were on fire, and the Knicks were playing
at an offensive rate. They had not played in the
playoffs for the most of the playoffs this season, so
they were doing everything right. They were keeping them under check,
they were getting all the buckets they needed. Your two
duos finally had a great game together. We have not
(04:09):
seen Carlthony Towns ball the heck out and Jaylen Bronson
do it at the same time to the tune of
seventy eight points. So to me, we just saw something historic.
I think that's what we witnessed. We saw something we'd
never seen before. When you start to dive into these numbers, Well,
what you saw from Nie Smith you never seen before. Right,
(04:31):
he goes six threes in the fourth quarter, which is
a playoff in the fourth quarter, which is playoff record.
You have Tyree's Halliburton setting records when it comes to
what he's doing in the clutch, we'll get to that
a little bit later on in this show. You had
a team that was able to score forty something points
from five minutes left in the game into the overtime
as well.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
That's just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (04:52):
If for Nie Smith not to miss a three, not
to miss his free throws, Halliburton hit a couple buckets
as well. To me, I just think we an offensive clinic.
We saw a guy get on fire to the tune
that we've never seen. And I think the Knicks were gassed,
without a doubt. But when your duo gives you seventy
eight points, you score a bunch of points.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
You even score.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
It wasn't like it was a twenty zero run like
the Knicks did to the Pistons in round one.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
They scored the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
They scored eight points in the last several minutes, and
they scored ended up being twenty four points the last
five minutes in overtime, so they were scoring buckets. I
just simply think we saw something historic. We saw something
we'd literally never seen. And I think that offensive explosion
of what the Pacers are capable of, they put that
on them. So to me, there was a letdown. They gassed,
without a doubt, they got gassed. But the Pacers flat
(05:41):
out won that thing. They stole that thing, and they
did something we never seen offensively, and get I tipped
my cap to them more so than the Knicks choked.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
You're crazy, and nobody's buying that what you're selling because
the guy himself and you even mentioned it. I'm glad
you did, But for the guy himself to make a
choke sign tells you that he believes that what just
took place was a choke job.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Everybody else watching except you and I don't care what
they did.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
The Pacers and I get it seven for seven and
the Knicks missed twelve free throws out the game.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
The Knicks did not do what they needed to do
to seal that game.
Speaker 4 (06:18):
And when you talk about seeing something you never saw before,
and you don't think it's a choke. In the previous
nine hundred and ninety four games where somebody led by
fourteen points with two minutes and thirty eight seconds, the
record was nine hundred and ninety four and zero, that's
an automatic win. I don't care what anybody else the
other team is doing. It's a choke job. No, it's
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a choke job. You have to win that game. The
idea that you could call it anything else. The Pacers
will call it a choke. Announcers call it a choke,
Knicks called it. Knicks call it a choke. They didn't
go there, and you're not tipping your cap. I don't
care what they did insecure what is almost an automatic
(07:04):
absolute win.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
The almost a thousand games were that same scenario. If
it wasn't, you wouldn't look at it that way. It
would have been.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
But that's my point thought. I'm not I'm glad you
brought it up. No, because that's a history. No, it's
it never happens. No, But it's the ultimate choke job.
This is a game you were supposed to win.
Speaker 4 (07:27):
Go look at any other scenario or circumstance, and you
can't come up with this and think, oh, yeah, let's
just tip our cap to They have to do their part.
That's always a case for any team that chokes. So
this is not new, And I get what you're saying, Oh, well.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
They made this.
Speaker 4 (07:42):
Well, we just saw Cleveland choke at the end right
against the Pacers. We saw the Boston Celtics choke. But
even in the Celtics case, with the Knicks twenty point
lead in the second half, not with two thirty eight left,
there's a big difference. The Celtics choked down a twenty
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point lead in the second half. They didn't choke down
a twenty point lead in the last two minutes and
thirty eight seconds.
Speaker 1 (08:09):
Now, I'm glad you said all that because that goes
back to my point. If this doesn't happen in a
thousand games, that shows you that this is the anomaly.
This is the thing that never happens before. This being
a team scoring twenty three points in a final three
to fourteen regulation, the most in the regulation of a
playoff game in the play by play era, again never happens.
(08:29):
Nee Smith finished with thirty, going eight for nine and three,
including six threes in the fourth quarter every one. So
that's my point, that never happens, right, And that's why
it's a choke because it doesn't happen.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
It's you're looking.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
At it the other way, right, we are. That's why
we are a couple in this. No, but that's not
what no one is gonna agree with and that no
one is going to agree with you because it's a choke.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Job. That's a game you have to win. Guy, point
six from three like that does not happen.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
No, But it doesn't matter because if the Knicks would
have done what they should have done, which is not
allow them, right, Okay, you just said the guys hot
on it on the threes, then maybe you have to
make sure that you can't give him airspace.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Try it.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
No, they took their foot off the gas thinking the
game was over and they got burned. And we've seen
this teams against what you want to read a stat
there's like five games that have happened where a team
has come back from a ridiculous amount of points at
the end.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
Right, I'm gonna get I'm gonna find it.
Speaker 4 (09:34):
But it's like five games and the teams will come
back are like five and one, and the Praisers have
done it three times this year. And when you looked
at it, you didn't go, oh yeah, well, the idea
that Tyrese Halliburton would grab his throat tells you because
he knows deep down.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
He didn't go, oh my god, we just did something
that was un never been done. And did you see that?
Speaker 4 (10:02):
No anybody who played basketball would look at that and
go they choke.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
And here's what I'm saying, show number one, he absolutely
was gonna do that because a Reggie Miller's there, b
they stole the game from him. I get that, But
what I'm saying that that's a choke sogn what I'm saying.
But what I'm saying is plain that it's what I'm
saying is literally because Reggie Miller is sitting there.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Rob, what does that have to do with what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Is they stole the game for sure out a doubt
and he so why would he mat because it's a
celebration from a comeback that Regi Miller did and they
did And if you want to call him choke job,
that is the easy thing to do.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I get it.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
I'm not mad at that, duh. I think I think
most of what you're saying is true. Everybody's gonna say
the truth. I viewed it as watching that game, going, man, okay,
you gotta get a stop. The Pacers don't get a stop.
You gotta get a stop. They don't get a stop.
You got okay, you follow him? They make a free throw,
they didn't make one, and the Pacers come down and
all of a sudden three three, and you're like, wait
a minute, they're in this game, and they kept competing
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and they stole it. And then to me, they went
out there and took that game. That's all I'm saying.
It wasn't as if the Knicks couldn't score. They did score,
It wasn't And if Jalen Brunton had a terrible game and.
Speaker 6 (11:15):
Only that score forty three points, not scoring is not
the way you could choke a game. You could also
choke a game by by not defending and not stopping
the other team from scoring and making the right plays
and making free throws.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
You even talked about it. That free throw. You don't
think that changes the.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Game that But my point is they only missed a couple.
It wasn't like donas straight dude six threes and he
didn't miss. Rob Halliburton hits a big three knee, they
got overtime, and then Niem Barber hits a three like
they literally were hitting everything to the tune of Halliburton,
who is now our Is he the most clutch dude
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in the NBA? Did he snatched that title from Jalen Brunton.
We'll talk about that later in the show. And I
get the I get the choke. I totally get it.
I knew he was gonna do it real time, don't.
Speaker 4 (12:01):
I don't know how you could look at at Halliburton
who makes a choke sign and then say it wasn't
a choke.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
But because that is an immediate response, No, it's not.
Speaker 4 (12:10):
If you did something that was unbelievable that no one
had ever done, you don't have to do a choke thing.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
It was a choke game. You are a man who
loves history. He's well versed. They know they talked about
the again, you're one of your mentors, Reggi Miller. You're
in New York. We literally know what Reggi Miller did
in Madison score guard to the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
So what I'm saying is that Reggie Miller was at
a choke job by the Knicks when they lost that game.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
But that was a choke job because there's eight seconds left.
But but Reggie made all a shot, So why why
is it what would for?
Speaker 1 (12:40):
It was only eight doesn't matter, right, I had to
score a bunch of points from three minutes. I had
to carry into overtime and continue the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
The Knicks things did what Reggie Miller did where he
scored nine points in eight seconds or whatever.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
I know that was watching that live was my favorite
basketball moments. Well that's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I know what I'm saying people are like the Knicks choked,
And that's what Reggie said because he knew that that
that shouldn't have happened that.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
Because I'm saying that was an eight seconds you're up
like that with eight seconds, I'm saying this one, the
Pacers literally paced themselves and found a way to come
back and make every shot they made. It wasn't like
they were missing, and they just made every shot from
there on all. So to me, they did something historic.
I give them a lot of credit. And the Knicks
have to make blunders that you can't come back without that,
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So it's not as if they're inexcusable or they're you know,
there's not any blame on the Knicks without a doubt.
But I'm saying I watched that thing and a large
portion of that, to me was man and the Pacers
went out and stole that game. They took it from them,
and they made historic shots that we've literally never seen.
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Speaker 3 (15:03):
With Rob and Queens. You're on the Odd Couple of
Fox Sports Radio. What's up Rob Man.
Speaker 5 (15:09):
It's good to hear you, guys with always Man.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
Yes, yes, you know, Rob, that was.
Speaker 5 (15:15):
The biggest jabs across the Strangler.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yes, here you go.
Speaker 5 (15:19):
Yes, sir, there's no if and I'm a Knicks fan.
Ain't no if and buts about it.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
It was.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
It was bad, Oh really bad.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
It will go down in the history books in sports
for sure.
Speaker 5 (15:31):
Top five, top five.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
It will definitely, it might be top three, like people
because nine hundred and ninety four and oh when you
had a fourteenth per I mean that you cannot give
that game up. Amazing.
Speaker 5 (15:45):
Take care of guys.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I appreciate your Rob appreciate it.
Speaker 4 (15:48):
Hey Drew in New Jersey, you're on the YD couple
of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
What's up?
Speaker 1 (15:52):
Drew?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
As he punched up, Drew start over, drews all over.
Speaker 5 (16:01):
I think that was one of the crazier I think
it's definitely a choke job. I think the only game
I can really think of that that reminds you of
was T Max thirteen. What was it thirteen? Yeah, that
was crazy.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Yeah, Hey Drew, let me throw this at you and Rob.
So in the fourth quarter, the next shot fifty five
percent from the field, which was better than Indiana. They
only turned the ball over twice. They won the rebound battle.
If you only turn the ball over twice in a quarter,
that means you have eight in a game. That's amazing.
And then they won the rebound battle, shot a better
free throw percentage, and have more attempts. So I'm not
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saying again, you have to do a couple of few
bad things. The thing I'm saying is they didn't. It's
not like they performed horribly and all of a sudden
just completely lost themselves. The Pacers just went crazy. To me,
I just have never seen a guy hit literally not
missed six threes. You ain't never seen. That was just
to me, I'm watching something I'd never seen. It almost
(16:54):
became comical and laughable. And how well the Pacers played
in a three minute stretch. So I get the knicks again.
It's I totally get you had a lead, you should
have won.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Get that. Okay, that's what I say. That's what a
choke is that. That's like what you ever come back?
Speaker 1 (17:09):
Now you never can do, so anytime somebody comes back,
it's choke.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
No, I didn't say that's what you said a comeback?
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I said, But but that's usually when you have a
lead or something and you're supposed to win that game,
not a close game or something. But like, I don't
look at the same if somebody has a twenty point
lead in the first quarter, that's not a choice in
the first quarter, first half.
Speaker 3 (17:29):
I it's not a choke job. Completely, get that. I'm
not talking about that.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
That's when when the Celtics even lost those games, it
was twenty points in the second half.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
It wasn't with two thirty eight to go. And I'm fourteen, Like,
if you just take your time, let them foul you
do you do? You know what I mean? Like I
hear no, I'm ninety I'm gonna go this on.
Speaker 1 (17:50):
I just I'll give this to you, and ninety eight
point nine percent is on. I'm totally with you. I
just and I totally. I knew that there's a chance
that nobody can feel me. I think, Robgie, you think
you feel a little bit. But I watched that and
just said, oh, the Knicks aren't playing horribly. The Pacers
literally just doing on fire and away. I mean, Nie Smith.
It became comical because he'shitting one. You're like, all right,
(18:12):
the kind of hit another one? You're like, all right,
just stay in this thing. A little bit hits another
you're like, wait a minute, hold on. Then Holliburton hits
a three, and you're like, wait a freaking minute, are
they gonna have the nerve to try to win this thing?
Speaker 3 (18:22):
But here's the thing is the player themselves.
Speaker 4 (18:27):
And that's why I'm just saying, even anybody who's playing
out there, they know they shouldn't have won that game,
and that the Knicks choked down. Seriously, that's why he
did that. If this was some unbelievable crazy you know
what I mean, like like that one and you just
have to tip your cap to him. There are those moments,
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but even he knew and I know Reggie's there and
you're doing the choke thing, but you had to feel
like they choked.
Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh my god, Like do you see what I'm saying
you on paper? I totally get. That's not that's not
like if.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
He didn't do that, and he really felt like, oh
my god, this was like something sight unseen or whatever.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
Whatever. I don't think you do that.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
You do that because you know that there's no way
you should win that game with two thirty eight left
and down by fourteen.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I don't. They had to do something to not seal
that game, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
And I all joke, I completely get the logic behind
the choke, but what you just said is exactly my point.
The Pacers had to do something, the Pacers specifically that
we'd never seen before to pull this thing off.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And they did that.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
And when he does the choke job, when he did
the choke job, they actually didn't win it.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
They had to go still win.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
That thing in overtime, because right, I mean, it was
gonna be amazing, right, you walk off to walk off three,
it's been amazing, and they still got to go to
overtime and win. They could have lost that game and
now he would have looked crazy with a choke job
then end up losing.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Yeah, but I'll give you one. Okay, same thing.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
You say something we haven't seen nineteen eighty six, the
ball goes through Bill Buckler's legs to lose a World
Series game. We had never seen that, And you go, oh, okay,
well something that No, that's a ball he should catch,
do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Like?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
And people always looked at that and was a choke
And of course they wind up not winning the World Series.
But I just think you have to do the other
part anybody looking at it, I just I don't think anybody.
I shouldn't say anybody, you didn't, but most people, and
I like what they were by fourteen with two and
a half minutes ago.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
If you went to bed, but then if you watched
the last you know, you got up and you were
rushing your teeth and watching it on your phone. That's
my whole point, Rob, I completely get that, Like it's
not I think most people are just gonna immedately jump
to the show for me seeing how they want it.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Like when you use the Buckner example, he missed that.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
There's not a lot of Nick examples of what you're
saying that I know the historic what I'm saying, like
the did it you see what I'm saying, Like, let's
say that the Knicks missed eight free throws in a row.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Okay, the did you just look at the Mets on
the other side and say, well, they had two doer
down to their last strike, they got a single, they
got another single to another. Yeah, they put hits together,
but Bill Buckler still missed the ball and for the
for the red Sox. It was a choke in that
they could have won the World Series had they secured
that game. That that's why people look at it and
say it's a choke.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I think for me that when I get more, the
Pacers had mixed out. But we'll yeah, we got more
on this in just a little bit.
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Get ready to talk to More Hoops with Mike Vorkanov,
National NBA and basketball business supporter for the Athletic Uh
now here's some interesting Rob. Everybody left, right, it's over.
Game's over, except one man and another man. They stayed
and that Mike was one of the two that stuck around. Mike,
what's up man? Tell us about it, Mike.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
Oh, hey, guys, I mean that was that was a
crazy That was the most insane game I've ever been,
ever been to, and definitely one of the craziest I
can remember watching.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Well talk but I'll just say my piece, I'll let
Rob say his, and then you're just kinda put the
final button when we were discussing, I think it was
natural for everyone to like say, oh, it was a
choke job by the Knicks, and you might say that
as well. But for me, having watched it, I thought
we saw something historic. Neie Smith literally hit six threes
in under three four minutes left in the game. Holler
Burton hitting big shots. To me, I have to say
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they did something historic on the offensive end that we
never did. Because the Knicks out they outshot them, they
out rebound them, they only turned the ball over twice.
You'd say, there's no way I did everything I'm supposed
to do, and yet the Pacers found a way way.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
I'm not buying that at all.
Speaker 4 (22:51):
I mean, even Halliburton used the choke sign because it
was an ultimate choke. Nobody left that building thinking, oh wow,
I just watched the Paces put on an unbelievable show.
At the end of the game, they'd looked at it,
Mike and said, the Knicks show.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
Yeah. I mean, listen, I think the fact when you
blow a fifteen point lead with you know, four and
a half minutes ago, eleven point leads with two minutes
like nine was fourteen, right, yeah, yeah, So like it's
hard to say, that's not that you don't choke that
game away, right, Like that's a win, that should be
a win. That's a win ninety nine point nine percent
of the time. Uh, the Pacers were awful, Like Aaron
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Nesmith did things that I think we all thought Aaron
Nesmith was not capable of.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Right, Well, wait a minute, he invented basketball, didn't he. Oh,
I'm sorry that, I'm sorry. That was a great great Gret,
Gret great great great grandaddy.
Speaker 5 (23:43):
I got it. Yeah. So, I mean it's it's in
his blood, that kind of shooting six threes in one quarter,
Like I looked it up today after the fact. He's
played forty seven playoff games before this one and he
scored twenty points one then he did twenty points in
four and a half minutes in the fourth quarter at
MSG and then uhould Conference finals. Yeah. I think the
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Knicks could have done some other stuff to kind of
like help themselves along the way. But it's just the Pacers.
The Pacers were often and any time that you give
a game away like that, it just it can be
both things. Both the Pacers were great and the Knicks
just choked it away. And I think that's what we saw.
And then I mean that shot by Haliburn, like that's
gonna go down with one of the all time great shot.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
You know what.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
I'm gonna say this, I'm gonna be honest when when
he made the shot, I I thought of one person
and one person only, Kevin Durant when he made the
game winning shot and his toe was on to remember,
that would have knocked the Milwaukee Bucks out of the playoffs, right,
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and they.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Would have never won the championship. Just think about that.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
He made the shot, but it was a tie instead
of a winner.
Speaker 5 (24:57):
I mean, change right, I will say the flake. Look
by the last like three minutes in OT and MSGU
was just you know, tight, and they were silent, and
they were quiet for most of the time. And the
loudest part of that whole time, see the loudest ovation
of the whole night was after Haliburton shot. The jumbo
tron does a replay and just zoomed in on his
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foot and when they saw the foot on the line,
MF she exploded, which I kind of told you how
everything was going there.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I saw people over there near him too, holding up
two fingers like it's two you know too.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
They've never been so happy for somebody else to score,
but just not be it two.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
It's not three. It was oh my god, all right, Mike,
So now mix gas.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
You lose one, you choked it away, the Pacers won
at whatever you want to say, how do you bounce back?
Because one thing we know the Pacers, I believe it's
like thirty one and two when they score one hundred
and twenty points or more. Meaning I don't know if
the Knicks want to play at that pace again. I
think they thought, look at us were scoring. Cats going
crazy brought some great I don't know if they can
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outpace the Pacers.
Speaker 5 (26:05):
No, they definitely don't want to play that fast like
the Knicks were doing. They're playing their style for most
of the game, you know, like they have a short rotation,
so they don't want to play up and down the court, right.
They want to be physical with you. They want to
get on the boards when Mitchell Robinson is in the game,
like they want to keep the ball in Jalen Bruston's hands.
You know, it's interesting to watch kind of like the
two teams on offense, the Knicks are kind of like
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very ISO ball heavy. The Pacers are always moving the
ball and Haliburton's trying to find open guys, you know.
And I think that took a toll on New York
physically to have to play that way for forty eight minutes.
And that's what Indianapolis does right to all their opponents.
And now they have to recover from it. And I'm
curious what they do, Like they've played well for most
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of the game. Mitchell Robinson game Indy a lot of
problems the way he was playing. They couldn't really handle
it for his twenty one minus on the court. And
Kat had thirty plus points. And you know, I think
Michael Bridges did a really good job defending Calburt.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And for you gotta win that game. When you get
all that, that's the thing. You you just got all
those things, all those things go right. Hey, I want
to give you one stat This is that I was
looking for earlier.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (27:10):
Since nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety seven season, teams that
have trailed by seven or more in the final fifty
seconds of the fourth quarter or overtime in the playoffs
are four and one, which is a seven oh two
winning percentage.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Ready four and one. The Pacers have three of those
wins this year. Crazy. Think about what I just said.
They have three this year. Before that, going back to
ninety six nineties, it was only one and one. So
rod It won three. That's my point. This is what
they do, Mike and Rob, this is what they do.
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Cleveland choked against them, and I can't remember the other
game they choked.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
You watched the game here. They chose Cleveland. Okay, it
was different. Nee Smith went six for six and three.
It's crazy, all right. What was the mood of people
leaving squad? Because people had to be sick?
Speaker 5 (28:03):
I mean sad. I'm just gonna put like sad, all caps,
three letters, nothing else. It was just everyone's quiet. Like
usually the stairways of MSG are allowed. You know, everyone's
talking trash, they're screaming, you know, Bleach Trey Young. This
time it was just nothing. You know, this is that
kind of told you where all the fans were, where
the franchise was after game one, and so it was
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a big mental you know, it's a big mental hurdle
that they're gonna come back from the game because losses
like this are just so hard to come back from.
Because you had Game one at home. Home court advantage
is now gone. Right, you had a win, You had
a win all wrapped up, not even a home court advantage,
but like you need four wins. You want to get
so many chances at him, and you had that wrapped
up and you lost it, and now you know that
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you're going to have to do this again. And like
I think one of the interesting talking points in the
Celtics mix series was, hey, if it's close, the Knicks
have Brunton and the Celtics don't, so they can't keep
it close. Well, now that goes for the Pacers, right,
Like they have this ineffable quality to just always win
these games late and make these comebacks and as that
can be you know, hovering over Game two when they play, and.
Speaker 4 (29:09):
If you're the Pacers, you have ultimate confidence now, right,
You just you just won a game you had no
business winning. And you've done this now three times in
this postseason. And now going in they already got what
they wanted, which they came to New York for a split.
They could go for the jugular tomorrow Friday, right, they
can go for the juggling.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
I think they're five to one on the road to
this postseason yeah.
Speaker 5 (29:33):
Yeah, I mean look absolutely, and like Rick Carlo after
the game called their god and make make these comebacks
like it's like working a muscle. Now they're like Schwarzenegger
on Venice Beach with how often they've done it, Like
this is this is just something they do better than
any other team in the league. And really, like I don't.
I mean, you guys know the league much better than
I do, but like, can you remember another team being
able to do this so frequently?
Speaker 1 (29:55):
Yeah, it's a different era, Michael, I mean, because this
is just this playoffs alone. Rob and I sit here
and do the show, and and we see this happening.
You know, all these games where the teams are up twenty,
we kind of start doing our show. Look up a
game like, wait, they're only up three, Like it happened
so many times throughout this postseason so far. We still
got several games to go. But no, all right, so
you who you got Game two real quick for us?
How you can the Nicks bounce back? You who you
(30:16):
got Pacers go up to.
Speaker 5 (30:20):
I'll say the Knicks tied up. I always thought this
is gonna be a seven, seven game series, so I
think they'll tie it up. But I don't think they
go back to Indy one one and that's a good
place to be anymore. So I think they'll win this game,
and like they'll learn from their mistakes. But I think
every game you play Indian and you play at their
pace and their style, it kind of just wears on
you going forward.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
All Right, there you have it, Mike. We appreciate you, man,
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
So much for joining anytime. Guys.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
All right, give them a follow Mike Vorkinov on X,
give them a follow a Ut what a game that was?
Speaker 3 (30:51):
Man?
Speaker 1 (30:51):
That he said, they've walked out sad, not even sick
or man, they walked out sad.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I believe it.
Speaker 1 (30:56):
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Speaker 2 (31:05):
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Speaker 1 (31:17):
All Right, Rob helped me, I remember, but I can't remember,
like I've the tuned, I can't remember the show different strokes,
different strokes, different strokes, famn, diffense strokes for the web. Okay,
I told you, like, I know the song, but I
couldn't begin It had me off for a minute.
Speaker 4 (31:33):
In my college days when we were just bored to death, Yeah,
we would watch that show and just wait for him
to say, what you're talking about?
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Willis? And then we turn it off. All right, that's
all we read right at the door, and then we
could go to class after that.
Speaker 1 (31:46):
Right, what was the over under per episode was about
one and a half only one.
Speaker 4 (31:50):
I've never seen an episode where we did it twice
because you had to wait for it.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
That was it. Look at me, what you're talking about? Willis?
Speaker 1 (31:56):
I still use that phrase, and I wonder how many
people actually have no idea what I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (32:00):
Younger people might not. Now it's the oncover of.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Rob Parker Kevin Washington on a TV theme So on
Thursday and right now it's time four Shekel City.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Welcome to Shekel City, the whole face for Rob Parker's
Day Dicks against the Spread. Did I knew that.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
I did do that? Did I do that? What right
that I knew that? Did I knew that?
Speaker 1 (32:30):
Ah?
Speaker 3 (32:31):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (32:31):
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you didn't say it. Do I
really sound like that? You always say that when you
hear yourself?
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Did I do that? I do that? I sound like that.
I think I sound a good voice. Every time you
hear yourself, you go, do I sound like that?
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Well?
Speaker 3 (32:46):
Sometimes I hear stuff and I'm like that I don't
sound right? All right? Yeah, thank you tiger. I was
two and one last night. One thirty four. One thirty
five is the total running total on the year.
Speaker 4 (32:59):
Okay, Minnesota Timberwolves plus seven and a half tonight, I'm
gonna go that with the best bet I am.
Speaker 3 (33:06):
That game was close until the fourth game. What they
just went crazy on him?
Speaker 4 (33:10):
Right Atlanta minus one and a half runs in Washington.
I'm already looking up at the score. It ain't too
good right now, which you got? Sorry one in Washington.
And of course the Brewers minus one and a half.
They are in Pittsburgh taking on the Pirates, so you're good.
Speaker 3 (33:29):
So right there.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
These were all posted earlier again, Timberwolves best bet plus
seven and a half, Braves minus one and a half,
and the Brewers minus one and a half. And remember,
I'm not telling you who to bet on. I'm telling
you who I bet on. All right, there you have it.
Let's get to this right now. It is time for
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the tire reck play of the day. Haliverton driving, He's
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and unloads up.
Speaker 6 (33:58):
Three.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
That did not happen. It hit the back of the rim,
hit popped high into the air, and it dropped gently
through the net.
Speaker 1 (34:10):
Man. That was crazy? Played today right there? Of course?
Shot you beat me to what. I was getting ready
to ask you after I read this, I was gonna
ask you which one was more dramatic?
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Speaker 3 (34:33):
The way tied buying should be. Yeah, which one more dramatic?
Shoot that that wellaw kawhis won it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (34:39):
If this would have won it even though about high
and it went through. I think you always gotta go
with the one that won the game, right.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Yeah, he thought he wanted everybody's gonna crazy.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
I thought he wanted it. I'm like, oh my gosh,
that was insane. Yeah, that Kawhi one broke. We ain't
saying Joe llmb since all.
Speaker 4 (34:54):
Right, real quick or Ben Simmons, b think about where
that could have done at that point?
Speaker 3 (35:03):
What what that would have worked? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (35:05):
Like like you forget that was the whole thing to
get there and they would have won that game.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Process. Dude, I'm being serious when I said, so we
keep talking about these one little thing that.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Right, maybe Brooklyn becomes a powerhouse and wins two championships
and hardened stays and and and all that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Like there's so many different things, man, I can think
of a few of those.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
But with Ben Simmons, is it athletic or if what
I believe, it's mental? Like I just like he can't
fall that hard where you literally forget he's in the NBA,
he was an All Star, he's rookie. Like he's a
really quality player, a good player. Arguably he was up
(35:48):
for Defensive Player of the Year.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
But he fall. It's mental. It's like mental something to
not even take shots, like like like like your basketball player,
like like what what what what would be there to
stop you from taking a shot.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
And when he shoots care free, it's a good looking
shot when he shoots care free, not thinking.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
But it's some mental block there, you know.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
And I don't want to sit up here and be
hy therapist, but I'm just like man because he's too
You can't walk around here, great shape, six' ten, fast you,
know can. Dribble it's like you're literally just an expendable
piece like.
Speaker 4 (36:25):
Me Different and you, know like you look at somebody
and think they have all the confidence in the world
because of the way they, look but mentally and, underside
they don't have the.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Confidence and then you see other people who don't look
like too much and they're as confident as can. Be
and you go any walk of.
Speaker 1 (36:43):
Life, yep it's that dude who you THINK i know,
goodwell he was about to walk up to her at the.
Bar yes, see he walked right up to her and
she get to. Giggling the next, thing back in our,
day she's writing her number on a. Napkin you're like.
Him she just this the Boars kucho looking dude over.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
There how that? Happen? Yeah, man confidence is something in
all facets of.
Speaker 1 (37:01):
Life but, yeah, Man Ben, simmons LIKE i literally, forgot
oh he's a. Clipper it would have Changed emmons as
a clipper and didn't even, So, YEAH i wonder IF
i wonder SOMETIMES i think it's the first time you're
up against. IT i, mean he probably was bigger and
better than his entire life of everybody right going up In.
Australia Just i'm my dad, Played i'm better than. Everybody
(37:22):
i'm more. Gifted get to, College i'm better than, everybody more.
Gifted AND i don't know if like it's the first
time you're ever like shocked that it's.
Speaker 3 (37:30):
Just not that, easy you know WHAT i?
Speaker 1 (37:32):
Mean and oh you MEAN i gotta go back and
work on my. Game everythingle something. HAPPENED i, mean just
the thirty for thirty is gonna hit you know where
something happened and you, know you just don't have the same.
Confidence you don't believe in yourself for something goes on
or something clicks to tell you that, no you're you're
not that, guy you, KNOW i mean from the out
(37:53):
and you can't go body? Outside is there a yips
kind of a thing like you, mean because, dude, again
his trajectory was like, this like, Oh he's only gonna
get better and. Better and you just, wonder like if
something happened where he just can't get past.
Speaker 3 (38:06):
It Remember MARK. L fultz had that for a little
while where he just he never wound up being what
he was supposed to be the first overall.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Pick it just kind of, like, yeah he just couldn't
he couldn't shoot. Anymore he just got. WEIRD i don't,
know that's and that's why rest in, Peace Greg. HARDEN
i told you how you, know my best friend's, pops
and he's just kind of a sports counseling guru to
The Tom, Brady's Michael, phepps The Charles woods and The
Desmon howards of the, world and a bunch of people
will never know of because they, were you, know middling,
(38:33):
wrestlers but they would go talk to. Him and if
you read his, book you just learned so much of this. Stuff,
yeah people are, Athletic yeah they're, fast so they. Catch
but if everything ain't going right in the inside of you, mentally, emotionally,
spiritually then it won't necessarily matriculate to the. Outside so,
Yeah i've just thought About ben, Simmonsly, Yo, kitch we
got a question for you asking
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