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Rob g you looking looking, spelt being jabbing yourself?
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Where are we at? We about four or five down?
Is it? I need to know before firm at four?
Wait till we get the real meds in. This is
the sampler, This.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
The appetizer of the game. This is a shame here. Yeah,
performance dancing drugs. I mean I thought we were past
that part.
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I'm Barry Bond no no, no, I was Hall of
Fame before, but not about to be the greatest everage.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
You might be somebody else. That's Barry Bond's when I
admit it, you're the guy who didn't get caught. Shane, Oh,
he's that's the guy, the guy. You're the guy who
was shooting up waiting to get the call. And he's like,
I think I could say or they got a choir.
He's like, well, you know what, maybe me only hitting
twenty seven home runs didn't didn't flag anything?
Speaker 1 (02:18):
Is he? Ryan Garcia, Like he just doesn't care that
he's done stuff, because that's the thing Rob he's been
he's been clamoring for it, got it, telling us he
got it, Like we still think Rob Parker might be
on it. He's just trying to hide it from us.
That might be what you're talking about too. We got
Alex our engineer assignment Monday. I'm here, Well you.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Are well, are you normally?
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Is it?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Is it Sason married Monday? Okay?
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, Well that it must have been Gray or a
marine layer, because when sons are out, your buns are
out of you're getting some mons or something like that.
Alex in the building as well, got Steve the Seger. Well,
of course is gonna get you set on what's trending.
Uh So, Reddick dive deep into this. Uh, it's a
lot to get it too, Martin. When we had the
NBA Finals, which you you jumped in a couple of times, overall,
(03:03):
you were excited about this from just a sports fan,
from a basketball fan. You weren't one of those blah
blah NBA Finals. Who's watching this? You were in?
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah? To me, shocking turn of events.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Guy who decided to try to make a living talking
about sports exact actually excited to watch games. I know
that that is seemingly rare across society.
Speaker 2 (03:24):
These days, more and more increasingly so.
Speaker 4 (03:27):
But yeah, I was locked in. I was interested the
NBA playoffs. They're fun, that's it.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And I'm more like you, I will admit, and I've
said this several times in the show. It is strange Martin.
In my however, many years living, you know how it goes. Oh, man,
this series is crazy. I can't believe he took that shot.
Why would they do this? Oh they got to get swept.
I didn't get any kind of text like that with
the series. Is the strangest thing is normally the polar opposite,
right this, guys that I can't believe y'all think he's nice,
(03:54):
he's not nice, he's.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
You get all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
And I don't know if it's just because they're such
a group of fun guys, nice guys, hard to hate on.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
No real like eat both teams, like who's the who's
the guy you hate?
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Like for instance, Celtics Lakers, you might have hated KG
or Paul Paul Pierce is weak.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
I can't to leave man Kobe over. There's something in there.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
This one was like, even if you're going for the Pacers,
you hate the Thunder. If you were going for the Thunder,
you almost like the Celtics Heeries. So it wasn't a
lot of a lot of that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
We're getting into a dangerous territory already.
Speaker 4 (04:25):
I want to start just by saying congratulations through the
y Oklahoma City Thunder for winning the NBA Final.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yes, that's a big thing.
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Shake Gilgi Alexander just chopped topped off one of the
most statistically historic years in terms of the hardware taking
and points scurd sold and so forth.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
That we'll see an NBA history Ottao.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
I feel like we're seeing new NBA history made every
given a week day, just about right.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
If you don't like the weather. You know, if you
don't like the record, the same, same kind of deal.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
But but no, and okay, see how they're set up
for the future.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
We'll talk about that.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
I'm sure down the line in terms of this series today,
you know, congratulations to them. I'm sure everybody in Oklahoma
City is very excited and very happy. And the fans
of them across the nation if they you know, if
they exist. But also the fans of them are in Canada.
Well in Canada, they got a lot of them. They
didn't follow the SGA and Lou dorton so on.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
The reason why you didn't get a lot of those
texts is because this team is boring, absolutely in a
good way. There's no good way to be boring.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
To me.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Well, what I mean is, if I'm the owner, I'm
gonna have to I don't have to worry about player
X getting that four in the morning call yo, Well
you know he's down, he got arrested for this death.
I don't have to worry about breaking up to a tweet.
They who's on the TV right now?
Speaker 4 (05:41):
S g A and j Doub going out And I
can't stand you man, you you don't pass the ball
like they're boring in the sense of you and you know,
you've been in your weight bag, weight training bag and
all that, getting in the gym.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
They're boring in a sense of consistency. They show up,
they work hard, they're united, they're familiar, their their teammates,
they love each other. You get through you have forty tonight,
Well instead of just you, all eight, nine, ten guys
are behind you doing the press conference as well. So
that's what I mean, and boring in a good way
in that they're the model of consistency, sportsmanship, team work,
and you're just like, well that's great, but sometimes you
(06:13):
want some juice behind that or something.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
So I mean, it's the That's the thing. I think
all the things that you just said about them are
also true of just about every team that wins a
lot of games.
Speaker 2 (06:26):
They like, play really hard, they'll work together.
Speaker 4 (06:29):
Just think about the think about the teams in the East,
like right now the Indiana Pacers is true for them.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
That's what made these two teams almost identical. But we
get different teams, but you get some too. If it
was the Knicks, then I don't know what's up with Cat.
Why Cat ain't playing in a minute. Why is he
sitting in the four? You know you get a little
little something in there, Jalen Brunson, He's hogging too much?
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Are they getting? You could have some stuff in there.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
This team with the kumbaya on that kumbaya was one hundred,
which again, if I'm the owner, that's a great thing.
Speaker 4 (06:57):
And I'm not saying again everyone in Oklahoma City should
feel great about this.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
This is not a knock to them.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
I was talking about me as a consumer of the
Finals because generally the way this was pitted, this is
David and Goliath. Right, This was the biggest potential favorite
in NBA Finals history. This was we haven't seen this
in twenty eleven or oh, two thousand and one, right,
and the two series that we remember vividly because of
(07:24):
the way either David had his moment in Game one
like Allen Iverson did to step over Toronto Loo, which
then the rest of the yearies was so nondescript. And
that is the only thing, Like no one forgets that
the Lakers won that championship. There's just no highlights from me.
You can't name one thing.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Do you know what I'm getting hold in his chest
from Shack?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
But I mean, but no one. I'm not saying nobody,
but you're not equating that. And the reason why you
equate that is because that was Allen Iverson's seminal moment
at the biggest stage of his career, right, that was
his primary moment. But then the two thousand an eleven
team you were are a finals, you remember that because
the the king fell, right, the king fell, and Lebron
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and had all the I mean spawned honestly fifteen years
of takes from that one and beat that one set
of games.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Here the goliath is boring.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
That's the problem, like Lebron, that that team Miami, Like,
we were super into Miami and Lebron and invested in
that future Kobe and Shaq, even though that finals itself
was not the most interesting, Right, the moment that you
remember is Alan Iverson stepping over, and that maybe the
moment that you remember from this finals is Tyres Haliburton
(08:42):
hitting that shot in Game one. But you were invested
in what Kobe and Shaq were doing. When I watched
Shake Gildess, Alexander and Chad Holmgren and Jalen Williams, they
are spursy and in a way that I cannot say
is complimentary.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
It is just like it is a byprop of what happens.
Like everything he said is right.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
In the consistency and so on, even though if you
like drive down to some of the numbers, how consistent
can they are they?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
When you look at their shooting percentage and so on?
Speaker 4 (09:10):
Right, you're more consistency in terms of being stoic in personality,
and so I get that. You know what that also was?
It was boring then too, and they won five championships
in fifteen years as one of the best runs in
NBA history, and nobody outside of San Antonio talks about
it unless you're old at the barbershop and you say,
and no, So Tim Duncan really had it like that.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
And I agree, Tim Duncan had it like that. Yeah,
But those are not the teams.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That we look back fondly as The teams that we
remember as the most fun are great teams.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Which is why I said, rob Gi is my witness?
Can I get a witness? Roger? You know this. I
said this prior to the finals.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I said that the person who will remember the most
throughout this postseason win loser draw was going to be
Tyrese Halliburton, and I said he was going going to
be the most memorable person from this playoffs because of
a multitude of things. And then once we got into
the finals, it only added to why I believe I'm right.
(10:10):
Tyres Haliburton came into this playoffs run as the most
overrated player, right, That's what his peers picked him as.
And again, by the way, that slightly, that slightly was
overrated because only fourteen people of one hundred and some,
but fourteen people is the most.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
So he becomes mister overrated.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
And also part of that was because they started off
slow and we weren't thinking about them, and there were
other storylines in the East, like the Pistons all of
a sudden being good and all of a sudden, what's
wrong with the Bucks? And man the Celtics can they
repeat against So there are other storylines.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
So the Patier just and they weren't doing it.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Although January first on they were the second best team
behind the Thunder.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
So then we get into postseason, he's mister overrated. What
does he do?
Speaker 1 (10:50):
He knocks off the Bucks? He knocks them off, couple
of game winners, nice plays, good games, bam Pops is Willin,
Pops getting into it with Giannis as they close out
that sea. So now Halliburton have to get on the podium.
Your dad was tripping a little bit. Dad was overreacting,
you know. So now he's again, he's becoming the topic
of conversation. Dang, he can't be over ready. He just
knocked out Joannis and them. Oh, and he's you know,
(11:11):
got the issues with Pops. Pops is cool. Kick Pops out, man,
let Pops live. We're debating it. We're having conversations even
on this show. Then he goes into the next series
and the number one seed in the East, Cleveland. This
is about to be their year. Finally we did it
without Lebron and nope, you got Halliburton. They come back
multiple times down fifteen. He has another couple of clutch games,
hitting big shots. Were like, man, this dude, how can
(11:31):
to be overraty? He might be underrated. Then they go
up against the Knicks. We already know what happened. Big
comeback fourteen, down fourteen, boom and he hits the shot,
does the choke again. Halliburton is the star of this.
Now we get into the finals, Martin and he hits
the game winner game one allah as you mentioned Alan Iverson,
and so he they are down forty eight to forty
(11:52):
seven and fifty what six seconds or whatever it was,
nine second point three whatever remaining, hits that game winner,
and then throughout he's injured. But he's playing good game,
bad game. We're still talking about him. We care he
didn't show up, he only had. He was zero for
four in game five. We have all these conversations, and
finally it was a Shakespearean ending to his season. Should
(12:13):
he play? Shouldn't he plays? Game six plays well, they win,
they get into seven, he starts off hot. You saw
it three or four three, you're thinking, oh, shoot, is
he really about to pull this off? Bam the Achilles
pops and to me, for everything I just mentioned, he's
the star of this, even in a loss, like we're
gonna remember that Halliburton.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Run why twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
O the thunder Whereas if I said, man, anytime I
stopping the barber shop five years, ten year, tw remember
that Halliburton run BRU was out there. That was a crazy,
crazy playoff run, and I just think he ended up.
I said this, you know what two and a half
three weeks ago, and to me it ended that way.
Even though SGA gets to win as the MVP and
the Thunder get to win and get their title, I
still think Halliburt ended up just stealing all the headlines
(12:56):
and the juice and the storylines from this postseason. And
with you, as you mentioned, even though congrats to the Thunder.
Speaker 4 (13:02):
I think that you have I think two things have
to happen for your thing to be all the way true.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
Okay. The first are one thing has to not happen.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Okay, See, can't go back and win multiple titles because
if they if they go back and win multiple titles
the way that a lot of people who have the
same deep of me have been saying all day, then
this will get erased to the history of this. It
will be chapter one of a book in NBA history, Right,
So it'll it won't be the memories of Halliburton. We'll
see those shots every playoff, but it won't be like
(13:36):
it'll be like the way that you show those uh
montages and commercials.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Right.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
We'll remember like the moment, but it won't be in
the context, won't be there because it'll be what is
this the birth of the juggernaut. Maybe maybe that's the
memory of it also too. The thing that has to happen,
absolutely has to happen is Tyre's Halliburton has to play
at a high level again.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
And I'm not saying that he won't.
Speaker 4 (13:57):
I don't think that's an unlikely scenario, but I do
think that it is likely are more likely than not
that the Pacers have. It's really hard to get to
the the NBA.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
Final, especially nowadays with all these he keeps flopping every year.
It right like you have a juggernaut, Lakers, Warriors, We're
going every year. We all knew it from the beginning
of the season.
Speaker 4 (14:17):
We talk about seven unique champions in the last seven years.
Look at the final four of the that's also a
lot of the unusual suspects. It's hard to get back
to this spot. So I think without more playoff experience,
I wonder how much you know he becomes a the
reason iverson We know that moment because he's a Hall
(14:39):
of Famer, right, Like, that's why it lasts. There's a
ton of guys with a ton of playoff moments that
are kind of just lost to the story of others
along the way. The only I hear what you're saying.
I agree with the first point, but I do believe
he did so much. If he had a shot, two shots,
or a comeback or one or two. He had comebacks,
(15:01):
he had game winner, literal game winner at the buzzers.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I mean, he had everything. I think people.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Remember it like people remember like remember that Kember run,
you know, But I wonder how many people remember how
it ended.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
I think it'll be more of a Reggie Miller choke. Ironically,
enough Pacers meeting will always remember that. Finally, that's for sure.
Just you had that run, you and the Knicks were
going at it. You chose, you know, you did the
whole eight points eight seconds. I think it'll be like that,
uh and uh. But again, congrats to the Thunder. They
did what they were supposed to do and really shut
everybody up in the sense that best team start to
(15:34):
finish wire to wire, and everybody tried to find a reason.
Too young, no playoff sperience, can they don't have enough,
They don't have the legit number two and they got
it done and now they're NBA champs. But that's the
question I have, Martin, is what's your takeaway from this
NBA Finals from this game seven by the way, you
know it was a seven game series. Is a takeaway
(15:54):
that the Thunder could be onto something. Here is a
takeaway to SGA had one of the greatest, greatest seasons
and maybe we to sing his praises more. Or is
it like me that Halliburton good bad injured Dad all
of that game winning shots. He was a star of
the twenty twenty five postseason eight seven, seven ninety nine.
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Speaker 1 (16:28):
You and Rob g are Glowrilla fans for sure, Fox
Sports Radio is the Odd Couple, Kelvin Washington, Martin Weiss
and for Rob, Hopefully you're having a wonderful day. Hopefully
you had a great weekend as well. Weekend was good, Martin.
You get any anything?
Speaker 4 (16:42):
Yeah, I was here, you were here, well, O Robie,
I know that, but do you know anything else?
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Ryan?
Speaker 4 (16:47):
I've been having fun, having fun any medy. I ain't
do nothing, honestly. Uh No, I do a lot of
traveling now for work, that's true. So now I rest
when I'm home, play a lot of call of duty. Yeah, hey,
like the load out I got right now, buddy, don't
come my way and system mobile, Uh, depending on where
(17:10):
I'm at.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
But I normally like to play in the PS five.
That's something I can only really do at the house.
So I've been home the last couple of days.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Y'all just spoke French to me and getting that I
retired Halo one cole crazy stop MRK stop murk. Then
after that life kicked in and I wish NBA live
or two K. I mean I was in and.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
Y that's how you know. That's how you know he's done.
That's like saying, oh, it's been the Atari talking about
NBA line. I'm just telling the truth. You know about
that life, man, robber, You know about that life. Don't
play games the morning, don't play it happens quick. Hey, hey, Martin,
enjoy your little call of duty. You want to ticking time?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Different call of duty? Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be on
duty all right. Yeah, we'll see it lays out, all.
Speaker 1 (17:55):
Right, we got game, we're getting some conversations more about
some trays that happened, and the NBA able to get
to that in just a little bit. Martin final final thought,
we were just talking about getting the Thunder manager and
then finally getting this thing done. And for me, Sam Presty,
you know, finally getting it done. Multiple iterations of this team, sure,
and finally, you know, from the Triple MVP crew originally
(18:18):
to all right, it's supposed to be over man. They
got old Chris Paul somehow they were still good Paul Georgia.
It's just all these teams and he finally got it
done with the more collegiate looking team out here, but
they finally got one.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Just final thoughts on that before we switch gears here.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
I think that like, congratulations to them, Like I said, obviously,
I wonder I think that we kind of have a
similar when you look at the Pacers basically and the
thing that they had throughout the Eastern Conference as they
advanced every round in the playoffs, like.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Bad things happened to the other team that they played against.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
All right, I'm just say bad things happened to the
other team that they played against the other team made
like a rash move, Like the Knicks fired their head
coach after going through the Eastern Conference finals, and it
kind of had the feeling of like, oh my god,
how can we have lost to the Pacers?
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Did you get a call? No, I didn't do. They're
calling everybody. They're calling the Knicks. The Knicks.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
Let go that coach who gave him two fifty wins seasons,
eleven playoff wins most I don't know how long had
them relevant a game with the game and a half
away from the finals, Martin and they were like, no,
you gotta go.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Didn't it feel like to you?
Speaker 4 (19:21):
And honestly, the fact that they haven't hired a coach
yet and all of it made it feel like, wait
a minute, it's not that you lost, it's that your
loss to them, but that them did.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
We But that goes to the point. Didn't we all
underestimate to them? I you know what I mean, Like
we're making like them was half away.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Here's there's my final question. This my final thought on
the whole thing. Because I am throwing hui and apple
sauce on the idea that the Oklahoma City Thunder are
a dominant team that they are, that they're up there
with the best championships teams that we have seen. Not
think that this is likely great team. I don't care
(20:04):
what these numbers say. I watched them. You know what
I'm saying with you. I mean, I get the numbers,
but I also don't think that the Pacers were as
bad as you know saying initially like we thought going in,
like everybody, so where is it? Where's the line in
the middle, Like, where's where is it meet in the middle.
I don't think that Oklahoma City is just some magnet
(20:25):
like magnificent. If they had played this like if this was.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
A ten game series.
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Hell, if Tyrese Haliburton snapped his achilles in the fourth
quarter instead of the first quarter, I think we're talking
about highly different game, right, And the idea that this
team was supposed to be the best team of all
time in terms of the odds, and you know, people
are on you know, I don't mean the bag on them,
(20:51):
but Nick right, one of my favorite people on team.
He was talking about the bet of the year was
Thunder minus one and a half in the series. Nobody
gave this Pacers team a shot and then three games
into it was like, wait a minute.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Can they actually do it?
Speaker 4 (21:02):
So maybe my take is less about the actual thunder
and more about the media and the people that talk
about these teams. Just because this team is the top
of the sixty eight, they don't have to talk about
them as if they are the greatest team. And if
we talk about them in a way that provides more context,
(21:22):
we can have real conversation.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
I don't know what you what context? Well here he
think this is. Don't nobody contextualize nothing? No more?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
He wants conversations. Boy, I'll tell you, I'm with you
that that might be one of the issues I like too.
Speaker 2 (21:36):
You know, let me contextualize.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
But if you think about it like this, well, you
know what people want to do nowadays, want to spew something,
get it out, be the first two it. But if
you can textualize you mentioned I think it also the
final point for me, the Pacers were just better than
I gave him credit for it, Rob when he was
sitting there originally, because we both have admitted and said
we as a show didn't even talk about them. Other
people we had guests on the show Man, we didn't
even talk about them. Our show National people, local people.
(21:58):
Everybody said, this team is better than we gave him
credit for. If you look at the numbers, they were
second best team since January. They did things well, it's
just they didn't have that again. You're like, everybody's all right,
they got like four or five guys give you fifteen
to sixte in a game, and we just ignored them,
and they within a half of a game away from
winning the NBA Finals.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Also, some trades happened, some mega trays that we kind
of thought would happen, and it finally happened. We're gonna
tell you how we feel about that in just a minute,
right now, Steve, the Sega is gonna get you set
on what's trending.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Steve, be sure to catch live editions of The Odd
Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven
pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (22:36):
All right, Steve, thank you so much appreciated this The
Odd Couple, Kevin Washington, Martin Weiss, and for Rob Parker,
Rob on his baseball vacation gonna be hitting a bunch
of different places watching games throughout this country. So safe
travels to our buddy there. All right, Martin, we sat
here a couple of times throughout the last few weeks
talking about Kevin Durant. He actually goes back a couple
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of months back when phoee sounds was like get out.
He was like, they say get out. He was like no,
and wanted to stick around. He and Bradley Billy, what
is so? What is so great about Phoenix that they
just stuck with one to stick around, especially Bradley Bill.
Speaker 4 (23:10):
People from Los Angeles? Where do they go there? Arizona,
Nevada or Nevada? Yep, so there You. I don't know
whatever it is they got, Like Bradley Bill, let me
tell you something.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
It's one thing if if if you feel like man things,
let's say you this is where I've been six seven,
eight years. Like no, man, y'all, I'm just I leave
when I want you. I'll put my bloodswing tears here.
I've been here. If it was Devin Booker, right, he
kind of has earned that, you will say with Phoenix man,
Bradley Bill, bro if I'm not wanted and I can
go somewhere else, maybe hop on a contending type of team.
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All right, Fine, for some reason, he just wants to
hold it down there. I don't know that he found
a good school. And now that's what it is. You
got the you got the wrong concept. Brad Beial knows
what time it is.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He knows.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Look, if I get traded somewhere, somebody might make the
mistake again of thinking that I'm gonna be a player
that impacts winning at a high level. And then they
gonna just talk about. Right now, all they talk about
is how they can't trade me. Then they're gonna start
talking about how I actually play the game play itself,
then start talking about actually play. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
I gotta go outside.
Speaker 4 (24:18):
You know, he's not gonna be out there in the world,
you know, and Phoenix is so don't go hot.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
Maybe that's another thing. He stays inside all day because
it's so don't go hot. Maybe you're right, maybe he
don't want to leave.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
All I know is now it makes it interesting what
they're gonna do, because now they have I call him
Bradley Bill light in Jalen Green. I mean, hey, they
got rid of KD, and of course we got the
KD going to Houston, I said for a few times
that we had these conversations Bart and I told Rob that,
I said, I think Houston who was the best place,
the best landing spot for KD for multiple reasons. Those
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guys are crazy, athletic, good defensively. They already have the
post game with Shang Shangoon and obviously they got frev Vlie,
the constantate professional pro kind of, you know, the the leader,
point guard and pieces around that. I'm and Thompson looks
like he's gonna be incredible, but they need a guy
who can get a bucket. But they needed a score.
But they needed a guy all right fourth quarter closed
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this thing on out and win his game for us.
And I thought Kevin Durant was perfect. And because KD
is proven not to be a leader. And I don't
mean that in a disrespectful way. I meant I'm gonna
do what I do and that'll be good for the team.
But I'm not necessarily going to enhance and bring the
team up at this point in my career seven eight, nine,
ten years ago. Maybe not the case right now, And
that's okay if I have that locked in, which I
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do with my head coach Frean van Vliet and a
couple other guys, so they're okay, boom, that's where he lands.
I thought it made sense from the jump. Jalen Green
now is going to Phoenix. I don't know what they're
gonna do there with Bradley Bill. Bradley Bill like Booker
and you had a thought on on Devin Booker with
this currently still with his sons.
Speaker 2 (25:49):
Only stick on the Kevin Durant thing. First.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Yes, the first thing that I don't care for is
the fact that it's Game seven was yesterday, all right, Okay,
This trade, which cannot happen until, by my quick back
of the napkin map thirteen days from now, is announced
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at this moment like this was completely orchestrated. I'm seeing
through it. I'm taking my tenfoil hat out and I'm
seeing through it. You put him up there with Taylor Rooks,
who we know has been at the center of dang
on there every viral NBA moment, and you know since
le Jalen Brown saying he's gonna win out of all
them championships, right, people get in front of Taylor Brooks
(26:31):
and say anything is how it all goes?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Right? Is what they said? The thirty for thirty on
that is gonna behilarious, right, So what if I.
Speaker 4 (26:38):
Told you and you know what, Kelvin, this is the
thing that really I'm a child. I was telling this
to one of the one of the people's branded early
because he's young, he's a TikToker.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
I'm a child of the Internet. I'm not a child
of social media.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
So when I see something online, I'm intended to believe
that it was not orchestrated. Like the viral videos that
we grew up watching were videos that were clipped from
the news, right right, That's what And it was just like,
can you believe what it's crazy doing? That happened in Oskosh,
you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't until I
heard Kevin Durant talking with Kay Adams afterwards where I
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was like, oh, I had ten on went all the
way up, started getting every frequency because that man said
fanatics Fest at least five times and his answer about
getting traded to the Houston Rockets, and so that just
the whole concept is weird, Like you saying Michael Ruber
has something to do with this. You want to talk
about what's wrong with this league? You want to talk
about where's the attention. I'm telling you how boring the
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Oklahoma City thunder is.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And you know why.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
It's because for the last ten years, the NBA has
been telling you transactions and not action that happens in games.
And the idea that today we have to talk about
this because this is today. It was announcement. Don't get
me wrong, we have to talk about this like we are.
Like literally, you're a news broadcaster. There are things that
you were obligated to talk about because they happened that day.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
Right.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
You may not want to talk about what happened that day,
but it is the news, right. This is very much
the news of the NBA the same way that is
the news of the NBA. Games haven't happened yesterday, And
it's just like, it's embarrassing to me, like when Aaron Rodgers,
when Adam Schefter leaked the Green Bay story on Aaron
Rodgers like six minutes before the first pick of the draft,
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it was universally panned.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And this should be as well, Cause.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
What's the categorical change between announcing that tomorrow three days
ago or right then?
Speaker 2 (28:31):
None? Absolutely none.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Here's why, here's why I would disagree with you, though
I think this and the Robb was here last week.
I said this, this is the new NBA. So we're
talking about this series and not to be man of juice,
no nothing. That the ratings a love that this is
what the NBA has become. And you could argue since
the decision where there's always something going on in the
off season. Now basketball for the most part, especially the
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first if you want to call it the Glory years,
as they got the Last Dance air right now, we
didn't have a lot of monuments to trades or free
agen signings to the tune that we have them.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
Now the last ten fifteen years.
Speaker 1 (29:04):
So I think the NBA now is kind of like
world soccer, you know, Major League soccer, soccer across the world,
where you got these massive players who all of a
sudden go get not to the money that they get soccer,
but you know, four hundred dollars deal to go play
with some Saudi Arabia team or go he's gonna go
to Manchester or not.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That's kind of what we get now, where we get
the finals.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
We enjoyed it, no matter the team could be the Nuggets,
could have been Celtics, could have been the Thunder and then
we go, oh, my guys to and so is going there.
He's got traded or he chooses to sign there because
you know what else were about to be on watch
on We're gonna be on the Yannis watch now, you
know whereas Johanna's gonna go, You're gonna play.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
And I get it just saying the time.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
But I think the NBA is like they're turning into
the NFL Martin where just talk about us. We're gonna
we want to be Can we be year round? Can
we get nine ten months? Maybe the NFL is twenty twelve.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Months a year. My point exactly, you want to be
the NFL.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
You know what you shouldn't do Half two of your
biggest headline topics happen on the same day, especially when
one of them is essentially evergreen. It can happen at
any point in the next fourteen days. Now, just quickly
on the point of the thunder. How I think it
actually worked. I love it. I think Kevin Durant and
I know that he kind of orchestrated his way into Houston.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I think it is a home run.
Speaker 4 (30:16):
We are moving into a place in the NBA where
it is less and less and less about who is
your best player and more and more and more about
who is the worst player that you have to play.
And what the Houston Rockets did essentially was trade two
players that are in their starting lineups that when you
watch them play, you say, wow, if they could just
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improve at either wing, this team would be devastating.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
And what did they do.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
They basically got moved off of the guys they don't
want to they don't want to play, and they are
forced to play because there's nobody else there.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Well, now you have Kevin Durant there.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
I think that you tag him with a point guard
like lan Elite and a big man like Steven Adams
who are just gonna go straight, do your job, lunch
pail type guys, and with the Thompson on the other wing,
that's a problem that would be a problem for years
to come. Dude, I'm in Thompson is about to be
(31:14):
so good in the next couple of years. I mean,
his brother's gonna be good too, but he seems to
be a little bit more offensive savvy, offensively savvy.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
This seam is scary man, and Jalen Green is one
of those players. Eventually, I think it might pop for him,
but it's almost weird. And you mentioned when you watch him,
you're like, does he know how good he is or
like how good he can be? Or is he trying
to figure out his role? What I do? Do I shoot?
Do I get to the hole. It's like, dude, once
he gets that, hopefully gets some good coaching somewhere, whether
it be Phoenix or wherever. If they mess around and
do another trade or something. Because the talent is there,
(31:43):
just the raw talent, you just hope that he's been
able to put together because he the skills there, the
athleticism there. You just to your point, we watched him
and you're like, oh, he's the best. No, he's not
the best player, look Sam goons. Oh wait, no it
should be j Wait. No, it's saying good but Jalen Green,
because they'll have those nights where you're like, Okay, that dude, he.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
Can be Ye. That makes think it's a case of
poor decision making skills.
Speaker 1 (32:03):
Oh yeah, well that without of that and probably life
skills too, I think is across the board. Yeah all right,
we are the other side of that too. Is a
guy that remains in Devin Booker and what do they
do with him. What's the expectation with him? We'll get
on that and just a bit. It is the Odd
Couple Martin and for Rob kelvin Washington on a Magic
City Monday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (32:23):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (32:35):
You think that's what he round there screaming atter? This
week started off for Rob. This is the Odd Couple,
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speaking of which, I had a good weekend Martin. Yesterday
specifically they had the LA Press Clubs and uh, your
boy want to anchor in the host of the year
out here in these streets, man oh man, congratulation appreciate
that man that's from the LA Press Club.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Yeah, he had a they call him journalism Wars. And
then's the LA Press Club is the actual award. You know,
it was like the Oscars, but the Academy Award kind
of thing.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
And yeah, by surprise, man, I was going, Alex, I
was going to talk to my twin, Blair Underwood. He
was there, so I'm post that picture of mails shopping
to him. I said, let me just know when we're
gonna do a movie together. You know that could be
a little brother in the movie. Ha ha ha Kelvin Washington,
And you just literally see me like not at all.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
It was like a movie like, oh, I get but
it's pretty cool man. So by surprise literally called me.
By surprises. I love that. It just it just caught him.
The VI got p who was caught more? Rob g
and Alex Let me ask you something, who do you
think was caught more? By surprise in this? Uh Kelvin
with this announcement that he just happened to be at
randomly there from Sure Dress to the Niners to be
(33:56):
able to accept this award, or Kevin Durant at Fanatics
Fest when he was found out that he got traded,
who was more.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Wisely, It's too soon, bro. That was that was more surprise.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Thank you, I'm I'm just see mine see mine.
Speaker 2 (34:12):
Is because those things are so subjective.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
Right, you get nominated three sports and you don't win
any known name me next year, then all of a
sudden you win and you don't win.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So this is that's what That's what I'm saying. That's
very humble. You're not nominated for it, and then I'm
one of four people. I got twenty five percents to
win this thing. Then say that, you know, I guess
didn't say it was five or six.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
You know, I don't know what you know what I'm saying,
it's you know, I was telling Rob g if Rob
was here, I picked a thunder thunder one, I said,
Kevin Durant was gonna where said he was going to
the rockets. I was right, and then hosts Anchor of
the Year in l A. I was about to slam
that the word. I was about to light him up.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
Bro and and and Kelvin slighted him up. You've been
working with Rob and for the what is it? How
long do you guys this version of the nine months
give a take? So you nine months, you know, solid,
solid start and obviously shows off to a you know, skyrocketing.
I've been working with Rob for ten years now, and
in the first half of that was easy. That's why
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Rob's not here. Yeah, he knew, that's why he's not here.
What do you mean, good Mo, You're right, of course
he's not here. You're talking about you got the NBA Finals, right,
and I heard him talking about Wendyana.
Speaker 2 (35:26):
Yep, he got it right. Yes, you keeping he's not here.
You thinking.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
Look, Rob's got the Baseball Writers card that he the
Baseball Writers of America.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
You thinks that he can go to any baseball game
he wants to. He can't.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
It is something he brags about all the time. And
you know he fly spirit. So he went and got
on that artist low budget airlines. I should say, I
don't know if he's holding to just one of them,
but it tosks him fifty bucks to get from here
to Cincinnati. So it's like, oh, Tyre's Haliburton, Pops's Achilles. Hello,
I'll say look for chevity two dollars. I could be
(36:01):
in Cincinnati tomorrow. You know what the test is going
to be.
Speaker 1 (36:04):
The Lettings test is going to be when I post
here in a minute that I wont if he doesn't
like it or shoot the text. Rob g in the
group chat if I don't get ahead congress like he
like we all do him and his random joints. But
I don't get a miseltof from the black Jewish person
that is Rob Parker, Rob Sterling Junior.
Speaker 2 (36:19):
I got a question, know something.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
You know, Robs has a very good chance, we'll say,
of being nominated for the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Yeah, sure in the relative near future.
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Huh do you think he'll take a day off if
he gets that nomination or a year.
Speaker 2 (36:33):
No, we gotta lead the show with it. No, oh,
that is a good Ooh. He'll be here here here
the day of though. Oh no, no, no no, and
he'll be here rob ballat he'll go.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
And I just want to say something, Kelvin, I've been
covering this league since nineteen eighty six. Just this little
kid I didn't know I was playing softball was a
picture by the way, seriously, seriously, And then we got
to go through at. You know, Robs, just like that
text I shot you the other day.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
But I ain't gonna go there. But that's what he'll do.
You know what he'll do.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
He'll congratulate your text and it sends you the picture
of him out to dinner with you know, five men.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Yeah, if you try to act like you don't know
where you're at somewhere like hey, now I was at
church this weekend.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I know you're with Robin. It's out everywhere. Yeah. Yeah,
you could not lie with him. No, that's it's uncomfortable.
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Speaker 2 (37:58):
It is the way tied by should be.
Speaker 4 (38:01):
You want to let me know the next time you're
up for these awards that you're so surprised about, so
when you do win them, I can schedule my time.
Speaker 1 (38:08):
Better because now I'll know I have to work. Yeah, yeah,
well yeah, I can do that. Matter of fact too.
They need to make sure they get those things a
little earlier for you, boy, because I had to turn
around to be up in like in ten minutes we.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
Went to bed. Latest surprise. Now now he's a diva.
Give me my award early.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
A matter of fact. Just mail it to me so
I only have to come in. You're right, just send
it to the crib.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
I'm on zoo.