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I mean, after the trades of that the Dallas sports
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And we're gonna get to those trades and specifically one
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Normally I will say we got a lot to get
to blah blah blah, because there's different topics. But you
know exactly what we're getting to, Martin, and that is
the Cowboys trading all pro Michael Parsons to the Packers.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
They've agreed to a four year deal.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
So he got the deal already one hundred and eighty
eight million dollars and that is gonna be of course,
including one hundred and thirty six that'll be guaranteed, which
makes it now average of forty seven million per year Martin,
which will be the highest paid non quarterback in history.
And also, if you are the Cowboys, they netted two
first rounders for the Cowboys. So just first and foremost,
(03:12):
give me your initial reaction. Kenny Clark and Kenny Clark
and Kenny Clark in disrespect. Yeah, Kenny Clark, Kenny Clark,
I'm sitting there driving, you know, heading back this way boom,
we get the text.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Boom's breaking.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
It's all over sports radio, and this is this has
obviously been the conversation since ros been.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
I'm pretty much all I had.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
I've had, you know, Rob G's and you and he
from and this has been what folks have been talking about,
how Jerry and Mike are going back and forth. And
not to mention, in the middle of this, he drops
America's team, So the Cowboys are pretty much dominated to
Jerry's you know exactly what he wants the conversation. But Martin,
this is something that I thought about last week. We
had this conversation when we were discussing and I said,
(03:53):
you just wonder, at a certain point would it backfire
on Jerry the way in which he's always conducted. You
go back, if you watch America's team, you go back
to Emmett had a holdout on the game too.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Okay, fine, we worked that deal out. You go back.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Of course, with some times with Michael Irvin, they had
some deal with issues. They work it out. He loves them.
They're part of the Dallas Hall of Fame and they're
just part of the guys. They're Cowboys. But then you
fast forward a little bit.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
You get deck.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
We know what happened there. Now is you making sixty million?
We know what happened with Ceedee Lamb. Now with Mike.
And I was telling Rob g that I wonder if
at a certain point, especially when it started to get personal, right,
you started to make it like Mike's hurt more than
he is all these out six games.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
Mike's like, no, it was four when you say.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
Man, no, we already had deal going on in the
back room of a smoky club and Vegas kind of vibe.
I'm writing the deals on Napkins, that kind of a thing.
When Michael said, hey, man, no, no, no, my agent
needs to be a part of this. Obviously you have
to be a part of it. You can't even make
a deal without the CBA. So I was saying, then,
I just wonder, at a certain point, does it backfire
on Jerry, all the showmanship, all the don't worry about
(04:52):
At the end of the day, we're gonna get the
deal done.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
It always works out in my favor. Does it finally backfire?
Speaker 4 (04:57):
And to me, I'm looking at this as it does,
because you never want to lose your best player, right,
It's if you lose one of your better Okay, it's
tough on Jay, it's a business.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
You gotta do what you got to do.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
You can't lose a twenty six year old best player
on your team who's still very much at his prime
and still missed four games and still comes back, still
get your twelve thirteen sacks. So I don't want to
let that guy go. And I think it got personal.
I think it was. You know, this is the same
guy Michael Parsons Martin who said I want to be here,
I want to be a cowboy, I don't care about money,
(05:27):
want my agent to make the deal. And I was
upset what I'm doing fact because you want to make
sure you get the best deal you can get. Brother,
your agent is, hey, hey, this is what I'm here for.
But at the end of the day, now with this trade, Man,
I'm wondering if Man did this backfar because I'm looking
at it like this. Jerry Jones, if you watch the
America's team and just from what we know about him,
even before this doc, we know how he wants to
(05:48):
win again, A to just win B and maybe this
is a to say I did it without Jimmy Johnson, right,
I did it on my own. I know Barry Switcher,
but that was Jimmy's team. And I look at this
as a setback in a sense of your defense was
already struggling. Your offense is good when it was at
its best, but now you don't have your defensive player.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's a setback. And why go all in, Martin, go
Why go all in with Dak?
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Why go all in with CD just to not be
all in on the team and try to win it,
Because to me, this is a setback. You just set
your team back another year or two because you could
have done this beforehand and gotten those two first round
earlier and did something with those two first round picks.
So I just wanted this finally backfired on Jerry the gambler,
gambled wrong in the house won in this case, Michael,
(06:33):
you know, or the Packers, because they got who they wanted,
the Packers winning this deal, and they finally Jerry can
look at itself at the mirror and say, I messed
that one up.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
So I think that Jerry looks at this right. You know, I,
first of all, I guarantee you John michol to tweet
it out that they're having an availability at the Star
at six thirty Central.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
So just a couple of minutes.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
I promise you two things that Jerry Jones will not say,
and well two things he will say. One of them
won't be with Jesus that he bungled this deal. It's
not going to be that. The other one he will
say is the last time everybody called me crazy for
trading a star defensive player. I won three super Bowls
herschel Walker, I mean a star player, a star player.
Everybody called me crazy. I won three super Bowls with
(07:16):
the herschel Walker trade to Minnesota and getting all of
those picks back.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
He's I think he's gonna be wrong on both. I
don't see that this being.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
This is not the herschel Walker Hall and the Order
of Operations. There's no defending it. If you're gonna trade
Michael Parsons, whether you're gonna sign Michael Parsons, whatever you're
going we're going to do with Michael Parsons, you should
have done it two years ago, that is. But Jerry's
a gambler, right, And if you are playing poker like me,
I bet on games, right, you know I bet on games.
(07:44):
I don't play cards I'm not a card shark in
that way because one time that money stolen me playing
talk in high school. That's the story for another day.
But after that, I said, no more, that is too much.
Right anyway, Jerry can't worry about the hands he's already lost.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
All he's got is the chips that he has in
his hand.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
And when Michael Parsons went to go get that second
opinion on his back, which people will say is, you know,
he's got a little case of contract itis in his back.
I get that, but Michael parsonst up playing high level
football for what the last ten years minimum between Penn
State and then you know, khigh school, Penn State, whatever,
there's something in his back that an m RI will
(08:25):
show that will be like, yeah, he probably he's got something.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
He's got too high level football.
Speaker 5 (08:28):
They can find, they can find, they will find something, right,
And so there was a real I think what was
Jerry was staring down the pipe of which I don't
think he considered, was the fact that Michael Parson's gonna
have a legitimate reason to both get paid and not
play football, which is something that I don't think ever
crossed the mind. That's when those trade calls started happening.
(08:50):
You see, the deal was not hard to negotiate. The
deal was agreed upon right, the deal was pretty much there,
and there were reports all the time that Jerry had
offered a deal and it's not necessarily this one, which
kind of I mean, this recess the market by a lot,
but still a deal that was, you know, relatively within reason.
The felt probably couldn't negotiate off of that deal. But
(09:12):
you said something in your opening salvo that Jerry Jones
just completely ignored. He said, your agent said that's what
I'm here for. And Jerry Jones, at every step of
these negotiations has not said I don't want Michael Parsons
to be a cowboy, has not said I did not
offer Michael Parsons a contract, said both, he's under contract,
and offered him one. The issue in this entire time
has been the go between of the agent, which I
(09:34):
don't know. A couple of years ago, Lamar Jackson couldn't
get a fully guaranteed deal. That's because he didn't have
an agent. Apparently this time Michael Parsons can't get a
negotiated deal because he does have an agent. I'm not
telling you This is what I'm saying from now on,
I don't care if an NFL team is complaining about
the way an agent is moving.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
You're telling me it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5 (09:51):
Okay, Now, I think that's what it came down to
more than anything. Michael Parsons said he wanted to be there,
said money's not an issue, Jerry Jones, and every time
said I wanted him to be there, the contract's not
the issue. At a certain point in time, Jerry Jones
did not treat Michael Parsions with the business level of
respect of doing this the appropriate way. And that is
the reason why Michael Parsions is a Green Bay packer today.
Speaker 4 (10:14):
And that's where I come back to my point of
if I'm telling you I want to be here, and
we have a great relationship to the tune of me
going at other guys de Marcus Lawrence go good rittings,
you know, Michael jumping out on him like I'm such
a cowboy.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And so in trench, I'm talking bad about guys as
they're leaving you.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
We don't even get onto you gang or you're not
you gang gang or you're not And so to me,
both sides, Jerry takes that for granted, because Jerry.
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Looks at him. It still around.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Twenty five years later, you got Michael Irvan, all these guys,
they love them, they're still around, they have these great relationships.
And I think he just has this thing. Is hekl
Elliott spinning the block? Come on back?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Sure?
Speaker 4 (10:49):
And I think he just has this thing where because
I treat guys, you know Ryan, we all have this
bond that no matter what, Mike has come out and
told me he loves it here, that it'll work itself out.
But one thing I just while I was telling Rob
g when we were talking about this, there's a certain
point where there's disrespect, there's business. And I understand business
can be difficult, and anybody who has an agent, you know,
(11:10):
that's why they're there.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
Let me do the difficult things.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Let me be the jerk, let me be all that
in him so you can say, hey, my name Bennett,
I ain't in it.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
It's between them.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
But when you remove that and then you don't know
his relationship with his agent, and all you keep doing
is throwing my agent under the pot.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
Honestly, you can have there are trickles and if you
pay it like we're way too in the weeds for this.
Speaker 5 (11:30):
I'm not expecting the guy driving home from work today
to be necessarily on this. David Mulagetta is Michael Parson's agent,
and Michaeh has not afraid to say things. Michael Parsons,
by any stretch, has complimented his agent several times for
the record setting deals he's gotten. Yep, he has shown
that is obviously the same level of support for his
agent that he does for the Cowboys type of thing.
(11:50):
But Michael Parsons is the type of guy. If he
feels like you're in his corner, he's going to ride for.
Speaker 3 (11:55):
You in public. And you can tell that's him, right,
that's just him at his course.
Speaker 4 (11:58):
So when you're going at me, oh man, I mean
he could just get hit by a train.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Whoa, Okay, that's weird. Oh yeah, I mean he missed
six games in me.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Whoa.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
I first off, I didn't because now that's the type
of stuff. You know this, you've been covering sports. If
I'm nothing else, I'm at least all in right. I'm here,
I'm giving my best, and when you start making like
I'm not here in my availability, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
I mean, he can get hit by train. He's not
even there.
Speaker 4 (12:20):
You start to question that, and then you throw my agent,
who I have a relationship where then personal and professionally.
I think that was the thing for Mike was like, nah,
I'm willing to move on there. And then he started
to do the scoring XT, you know, scoring X and
start taking scrubbing boo off the post social media post
and doing all that. And so now we find ourselves
in this situation. And again I think, if you're Dak
Prescott to me, I'm the one sitting here like, yo, man,
(12:42):
the pressure's on me because you we're gonna say this.
Me and Martin are gonna talk about this for the
next two hours and forty five minutes, and then you
got the next show. It's gonna come on the next show,
and then tomorrow morning, everybody and you know, even a
Smith's gonna have a field day with it, all this stuff.
Jerry's not going anywhere. I'm the owner. We've loved and
we've hated, and we've laugh we congratulate, doesn't matter. He's
the owner. Dak Prescott's the one who's gonna have to
(13:04):
sit here and say he's that good.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
Why can't he get it? Done. Why can't he do this?
Speaker 4 (13:08):
And this season maybe his offensive and his defens is
and we just saw that with Joe bra I'm not
saying it's gonna be that efficient. But my point is
to me, I'm the one that has to be the
podium king as the quarterback, you know what I mean.
And now my team keeps being handicapped, if you will,
and I gotta be the one to sit there and
be a part of it.
Speaker 5 (13:25):
Now my reputation, you would think that in any other organization,
the podium king is generally the quarterback. Not in Dallas,
the podium king is actually outside the podium on the scrum,
as Clarence Hill and everybody else is holding the microphone
in front of Jerry as he's holding court outside the
locker room. The thing about this that you just touched
on is with all of this, Jerry Jones now is
(13:48):
back into He is back in charge. He has cleared
the decks of people that are gonna be because think
about who's got who. Just now again, I was out.
I was in the south of France the last two weeks.
So congrat get a chance to get on here. But
I'm just saying I saw Brian Schottenheimer several times as
I'm on a vacation of reading this at four o'clock
in the morning in the water closet, He's saying, uh, uh,
(14:10):
you know, you know, I think Michael Parkser is gonna
be here week one. I'm gonna have a conversation with Michael.
He'll be here week one. Dak Prescott, I'm gonna have
a conversation with Michael. We've been here before. I think
Michael will be here week one. Stephen, Jerry Jones, I
think on a Steven A. Smith, Michael Irvin something or
other said a trade is not happening. The pressure to
me lies squarely on Jerry Jones, because Dak Prescott got
(14:31):
a no trade clause. He ain't going nowhere either. Ceedee
Limb's cap hit isn't saying he ain't going nowhere either.
The pressure to me is on Jerry Jones. And the
happiest man in Dallas is Nico Harrison.
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All right, Well, unless you've been up under a rock,
you didn't know Michael Parsons traded what to the Yeah,
Michael Parson has traded to the Green Bay Packers. Some
people probably are just gott in the car. Let me
turn on the Odd Couple. See what they talking about. Well, well, him,
(17:01):
he's going there. One hundred and eighty eight million, one
hundred and thirty sais guaranteed forty seven million a year.
A couple of the first round picks gonna be going
to the Cowboys.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
We're joined.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
I about Matt Mosley from the Doomsday podcast in Fox
Sports dot Com, and he's gonna help us break this
down a little bit more.
Speaker 3 (17:14):
Matt. How you doing, man?
Speaker 8 (17:17):
I'm doing okay. I mean it was going to be
a leisurely Thursday before some huge college football coverage, and
then my day changed in a big way at about
four o'clock Central Local time today. So Jerry, it always
keeps it interesting. So I guess a eight part Netflix
(17:38):
series wasn't enough for him. He had to add to
it with this.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So yeah, he's gonna add a ninth. He's gonna add
a ninth episode real quick.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
You're listing it is this on a scale of one
to ten, ten being absolutely shocked, one being not shocked
at all. Where are you with this actual trade happening foally?
Speaker 8 (17:56):
Like an eight? I just think it was starting to
get kind of ugly, and I was having a hard
time imagining, you know, the next couple of years if
they tried to let him play on his current deal
and then do a do a franchise tag. I mean,
this thing was gonna get ugly. He was already seeking
(18:17):
a second opinion on his back, where it almost kind
of looked like he might try to sit out a
little bit longer and and perhaps blame an injury. I
can't wait to see Micah in Green Bay. Something tells
me that back's gonna look a lot better. He's gonna
the back's gonna start feeling better. He's gonna come racing
out of there. It is amazing what forty seven million,
forty seven million dollars a year can do. So uh yeah,
(18:41):
I so eight or nine, but it's still I just
think you cannot even believe, like just the shell shock
of the fans, like so this doesn't approach that night
that the Luca trade went down like it's like the
biggest gut punch the history of Dallas foot or sports
(19:02):
like that was other than just like the two thousand
and six finals loss, which felt like that was rob
from the Mavericks, but that that was a huge gut punch.
This at least like he's been upset. There's been anger
both ways, and the player wasn't shot because basically the
player came out and asked for a trade. So it
(19:24):
can't be as shocking as the Luca deal. But you
can understand the metroplex. The fan base around here has
had enough of this, and for a team that honestly
probably didn't have that much of a shot against the
Eagles of the Commanders in a tough division this year,
now really has no shot. And so it comes across
(19:46):
as a complete you know, like it's over and maybe
maybe the trade will hit and these these all these
draft picks will hit. But right now I think a
lot of people are pretty upset.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
Matt Mosley here on the acle, I Jerry's about to
start talking in a couple of seconds here, so I
know you got to get to that, but I do
want to ask you, where did the generous do? Where
did the genesis of this anger scene to come from?
The surprise here is we've seen Jerry sign Dak last minute,
signed CD last minute, and this would have been the
like again that would have been part for the course
to resign Micah. To me, how much of this was
(20:20):
the fact that it seemed like Jerry wanted to pay
him didn't Michael wanted to be a cowboy, but Jerry
didn't want to call it David Mudlegetta like that felt
like a major thing.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
In this whole story. To me, I'm I offer on on.
Speaker 8 (20:32):
That it was. I mean, Jerry likes to go straight
to players, He's done it in the past. I just
think in this case, you know, most players will say, hey, man,
bug off, go talk to my agent, and I mean
they're respectful about it. But in this case, Jerry legitimately
thought he had a deal done and that they were
(20:54):
on a number. And then wait, I think, and Jerry's
been doing all this media here recently to try to
like win this thing somehow publicly, and there was no
way in the world he was going to do that.
And now the message, by the way, brand new coach
the locker room. You've already seen some of the reactions
(21:17):
from his teammates, whether it's Diggs or CD or whoever,
the locker room is in shock and is saddened. And yeah,
it was completely There were a couple of different things
that happened. I think there was disrespect toward the player
in the sense that he kind of I think I
think Michael was embarrassed. It was kind of like Jerry
(21:39):
was trying to say, dude, you agree to a deal,
and then the agent Jerry tried to clown on him
and act like he didn't know his name and he
didn't talk to agents, he didn't call him up. And
they've been working with agents forever. I mean, you think
Eugene Parker wasn't in Jerry's office working on a deal
for Dion all those years ago. I mean, like these
(22:00):
agents have been talking to Jerry and Steven forever and
to act like it otherwise was crazy. So this was
some weird sort of end around. And at the bottom
line is I think Jerry just got sick of getting
beaten up on these deals. I mean, that gets sixty
million a year CDs, probably the second highest paid wide
(22:20):
receiver in the game, and I just think Jerry was
done with it and just thought, you know, I'm going
to try to avoid letting this, letting this player, and
then and then they just got to an impass and
and you know, the rest is history. He's moved on,
and now the Packers are doing with Micah kind of
(22:40):
what the Cowboys did all those years ago with with
Charles Haley. I mean they didn't start winning super Bowls.
I mean that was what put him over the top,
was getting Charles Haley. And they're not the same person.
They're not the same kind of they're not the exact
same player, except they are both holy terrors when it
comes to a pass rush. I would say Charles was
a holy terror in other areas too.
Speaker 4 (23:02):
Yeah, we're not gonna get onto that. You know, we
want to keep our jobs. Some of the stuff that
he was doing, real quick, run out of time, and
I know you want to go watch and see what
Jerry Jones has to say say as well, Matt real quick.
For me, I feel they punted on the season like
it's a rap. If they ever thought they had a
chance to compete for the division, get a wildcard, spout whatever,
They've punted on.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
That's my fin you.
Speaker 8 (23:23):
Yeah, they're done. I mean all you got to do
is look at last year Michah missed four games and
like they didn't even have a chance. I mean, and
he came back and the numbers completely changed, the defensive numbers.
I mean they had they I mean, they obviously had
right there in front of them. They had all the
numbers they needed to show with it. When this guy plays,
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they're a completely different team now. Or they a team
that was out there knocking on the door to go
to the Super Bowl. No, no, so I think that's
probably And again somebody made a good point on Twitter.
They're basically like this, this g is them can do
things like this because he knows he's never gonna get fired.
There's no way he's ever gonna lose his job. So
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if he needs to make a decision that's for the
betterment or you know, for it helps the team three
or four years down the road, he can do it.
And most gms, I mean, you know, if they do
something like this, they don't have the security to think, well,
this thing may not pan out for two or three years. Yeah,
and with this, with this guy, he's not going anywhere.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
No, he has that luxury. Hey, Matt, we appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Matt Mosley again Doomsday Podcast, Fox Sports dot Com.
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Appreciate your time, brother, Thank you so much.
Speaker 8 (24:33):
Okay, you'll be good. Thanks, all right, So.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Here we're gonna do. We're gonna go to Monzi. He's
gonna get you set on on's trending. We're supposed to
hear from Jerry any minute, so if that happens, we'll
jump to that Manzi Blanios.
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Speaker 3 (24:53):
It is the ocouple kelvin Washington.
Speaker 4 (24:55):
My man Martin wis at the building and for rob
he acheing e stiff back joints not cooperating. Some days
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can keep moving. Use as directed at any moment, Martin,
we're supposed to hear from Jerry Jones. Here we have
to say about this trade. You said something earlier, obviously, listen,
(25:16):
Jerry is gonna find a way.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
To make a win out of this. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
He's gonna find a way to spend this and say
it's okay, this is what we expected. Were playing right
in want to lose them, but you know, look we
got two first round. We might get to Micahs. You
know he's gonna find a way. He's gonna find a way.
I want to go back to this. You have an
thought process about how Micah's media presence could have been
something that had Jerry a little sugar.
Speaker 3 (25:40):
Because here's the deal.
Speaker 2 (25:41):
Mo.
Speaker 5 (25:41):
Matt Mosley from the Doomsday Podcast, Rob g again, you're
doing a great job today, buddy, Way to get that
quick right, came in.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
I told you he's not even listening to you.
Speaker 9 (25:51):
Right.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
My pick's not for four more. So okay, you're back
for a few nights. He's back, he's you're locked in.
Speaker 5 (25:56):
But I'm saying, Matt Moseley said it himself, Jerry was
shiit of getting beat up over these deals.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
And if you're sitting there, you're Jerry Jones.
Speaker 5 (26:04):
You're like man last three two years ago, they said
I got worked by DAK.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
The year later, I got worked.
Speaker 5 (26:11):
By CD Lamb, Well, you know what, I'm not getting
worked by Michael Parsons again, especially after away all of
this situation went.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
The difference between those three guys. Michael Parsons himself.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
Is a media like, I want to say conglomerate, but
whatever you whatever, you call it, the Travis Kelcey the
things that these new podcasts are player podcasts.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
And not they're not even somebody knew anymore.
Speaker 5 (26:37):
They're established now at this point, getting signed with the
ones that you're saying are currently playing, the ones that
are actively doing it. The difference between Michael Parsons and
all of them, which is the fact that it has
been outlined on this show on others and several times,
but both by Chris and Rob and I'm sure you
as well, is that Michael Parsons hasn't won anything. Michael
Parsons hasn't won Travis Kelcey's multiple super Bowl champion, A
(26:59):
lots of other guys are tired Michael Parsons, for better
or worse at this point is Bleacher was it Bleacher.
Speaker 10 (27:06):
Report, the Edge whatever it's called off the edge with
Michael Parsons. You watch Bleacher Reports draft coverage, Michael Parsons
is sitting there breaking down first round picks like he's
been out of the league for fifteen years, all right,
but whether you like it or not, that's what he's doing, right,
and that's what he's that ain't going nowhere. So Dak
Prescott's not going on this podcast as he's negotiating with
(27:27):
Jerry Jones saying well, you know, we offered him, they
offered me this and that like that, that conversation is
not happening.
Speaker 5 (27:32):
Cedee Lamb will maybe tweet a little bit. CD's held out,
you know what I'm saying. So sure, I'm not saying
that these guys are pushovers by any stretch. What I'm
saying is, though, is that Michael Parsons is the only
person in Dallas who made news on Wednesday, right, Like
Jerry made news on Tuesday with his radio show. Then
(27:55):
Michael with podcasts will come out and on Wednesday were
talking about Michah Parson's talk about what the Cowboys did
or didn't do or Michael Parson's talking about what another
team did because he's breaking down the whole league on
his podcast like he's a retired player, right, Jerry was,
like the Mosley said he was sick of getting beat
up over these deals and the way this was going
(28:18):
to play out with Michael Parsons with a microphone in
front of his face every week on the Michael Parson's podcast,
which to his credit he's got there's one.
Speaker 3 (28:27):
Less person doing that show than there is right here.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
He does that all by himself and just talking to
people straight on right and does, from what I.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Can tell, a pretty good show.
Speaker 5 (28:36):
I'm not saying I'm locked in, but I definitely know
I'm minded for content every single week to see what
Micah said, because if Michael podcast came out and see
what he said either about this guy doesn't mean that
Deak he doesn't like how good Dak Prescott is because
he said Matt Safford's top five. You know what I'm saying,
all of this or whatever, that's just hypothetical. But Jerry
was not ever going to win this negotiation in the
(28:56):
media if Michael Parsons was in Dallas.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
See that's where I disagree.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
The reason I disagree is because Jerry's done this before
and owners I talk about leaders of CEOs, of companies,
owners of teams in the NBA, the folks that top
always somehow make the bottom people like in the fans
hate the bottom person. They hate the player when the
owners like they hate to play. Thank god because it
(29:22):
should have been us. And Jerry Jones has been doing
this yet Cowboy Nation America's team is still thriving. This
is nothing new to Jerry and the longer this would
have gone on to me and if in Maca Micah's
showing up to the games, laying on the training bed,
eating popcorn, not paying attention, you know the way people
(29:43):
are too simple minded, they would have turned on Micah.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
Man.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
I know it's business. You gotta still look professional. Come on, Michael,
you can't you be running your mouth. Turn your Micah
off as Rob Parker saying all these things to me,
Like it has in every sport, it turns to the
player because people are two fickle minded to realize, Yo,
this is the owner and whatever league it is, they
always go back to the player. Man, how dare he
(30:07):
want to leave? Even though players been here six seven,
eight years, give their blood, sweat and tears. The ownership
has done nothing. How dare you want to get traded?
How dare you want to move on? And Michaeh to me,
had he started continuing to complain, continue to scrub the VDA,
dropping Bible verses. People would have went on him. Man,
man up, stop putting it out there, just be quiet,
let it, let business handle itself. And I think they
(30:28):
would have turned on him because subconscious scene and subliminately
you're used to Jerry jerrying.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
I understand what you're Shane, and I'm not trying to
blow past it.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
But you said, man, be quiet.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
Michael Parsions has never, for better or for worse, taken
that advice.
Speaker 4 (30:44):
But they would have gone to that worse, is what
I'm saying. Because people, let's say, let's say more of
what happened the other night last preseason on Friday. Right,
he's just laying out acting silly. Call me, call me
the fans doing another right. People aren't nuanced enough to
go He's just mad because Jerry's he's a he took
offense to that. He's just lashing out. People are gonna, Man,
(31:04):
you still getting paid millions? You know how that goes?
Speaker 8 (31:07):
Man?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
You crying over a couple million. Meanwhile, I'm only making
it come up. It would turn on him. That's just
what fan bases and people do. I don't this year.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I agree with you that maybe the Cowboys fans written
large which say if they start out to and for
a boy, it's trying to get out there and start
making some plays right last time for you to get
out here already on the contract for three years. But
my thing is what I just we had never had
a guy who had been able to like and I
(31:36):
know we're touching on this a little bit about the
like controlling your message right, and it depending on how
you look at it. For Lebron, it's worked for him
at times and backfired for him at times when you
tried to control it too much. I think at this stage,
the final stage of the kind of the athlete media thing,
I think Michael would have been able to spend this.
I think, Mike, there's enough facts out there to say, Okay, yeah,
(31:59):
these are the rules, rules right, and Jerry has.
Speaker 3 (32:01):
Me under under contract for this.
Speaker 5 (32:03):
That and the third, look at everybody else that's around me,
and look at the way the Cowboys themselves are responding
to this moment and have this entire time. The whole
conversation coming out of the all the people now who
said Michael would be there a week one is because
they thought Jerry's gonna pay him. Right, it was never
because Jerry's gonna make him play on this deal.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
I think it would have came out.
Speaker 5 (32:26):
It would have, It would have had a different tone,
if not, if not necessarily just in Dallas, but NFL
at large, because we've never seen a player with Michael
parts is just highly accomplishing NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
Ar one of the best players in the NFL. But
I would say as little.
Speaker 5 (32:45):
Established winning and success at a team level, been so
vocal before, both socially in general and about what actually
happening on the team.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
Like people knew who Jayalen.
Speaker 5 (32:57):
Ramsey was when he was playing for Jacksonville and kind
of held out. You knew who he was, and he
made big plays in the playoffs and so on, but
he didn't have the Jalen Ramsey show.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
Michael Parsons is definitely, I mean, he put him, He
put himself in position to at least be eye eye
and try to battle Jerry. And that's why this makes
it so astonishing, because Jerry finally got a taste of
his own medicine. I'm the guy that does the radio shows,
I'm the guys that drop documentaries. I'm the guys that
go on Steven A. Smith shows and all that, and
now I got other guys going on shows talking about me.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
He maybe met, maybe he did meet his match. More
on this and again at any given moment.
Speaker 4 (33:30):
Speaking of the man, we're supposed to hear from Jerry Jones,
So if that happens, we'll get straight to it. It's
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Speaker 5 (33:58):
Thursday, Get your head up, well, keep your head up.
That's right, little listening to that. If you're in Dallas
right now.
Speaker 4 (34:04):
Keep your head up, keep your head up. Man, it's
been a rough go for Dallas. We'll get to that
in just a moment here, man. As you know, Jerry Jones,
Stephen Jones right out, they're talking. We'll play a little
bit of that coming up in a little bit later.
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So again, we're going in all day basically talking about
this trade with the Cowboys and the Packers, and we'll
also talk a little bit more on the next hour
how this plays out for the packers side of things.
So you know, we'll get to that in just a moment.
But I go, I look at this man, and we
just we're joking. But man, listen, the best player on
the Mavericks the best is Dirk, and I'm not gonna
(35:18):
say he's better than Dirt, even though I think he's
more offensively skilled. But at least Dirk is a man
who walking around the MVP, So I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
But you had Luca.
Speaker 4 (35:26):
Gone, then you're like, all right, we know he got
Dak and he's you know, middleing quarterback.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
You know he's fine whatever. In the CD's very Micah
is the best player in this team. Gone.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
I don't know what the heck's going on in Dallas
right now. If you are the best player on the team,
be worried, because historically you the one who ain't got
nothing to worry about. But that is clearly not okay,
my goodness, man, if it were literally, don't buy if
you're Luca, Luca's going to sign on the house and
they said, don't do that, go ahead and buy one
out in Malibu or something like that.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
Man.
Speaker 4 (35:55):
But yeah, this is this is this is huge. And
again I look at this, we talked about it a
little bit. I'm looking at the defensive side of the
bar and you look at the just in the division
alone for them, Man Martin commanders, and maybe they take
a step back. Rob G thinks they will. I don't
think they'll take a step back. Maybe then instead of
twelve games, they win eleven. But they should be good.
(36:15):
The Giants should be better without a doubt. And then
obviously we know what the Eagles are. So you just
shot yourself in the foot. You just cheedar bob this thing,
and now you really just took basically wasted the twenty
twenty five season in my opinion, because there's no way
you can't Joe Burrow this thing and try to outscore everybody.
(36:35):
And I don't think your offense is like that to
even have a chance to do that. So to me,
you can't have games where Dak say, he's just solid.
Now he's already solid, but the defense said today Mike
ha got a strip sip sack, strip fumble picture. You
know that's gone, and now you got Treymond Diggs like,
oh man, dang, you got guys in fractured locker room.
(36:56):
And to me, this is just a horrible way to
go into the season, a season and wearing your mind,
and you got a new coach as well, when you're
trying to get back to the twelve and five days
and then get back in the postseason and remy those
those postseason losses.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
I just think it's a setback, a major.
Speaker 5 (37:10):
Oh, there's no way, and Jerry Jones is on doing
it right now. But I'm not buying the fact that
you're telling me your team got better by not having
my caparsions on it for the next seventeen games. You're
not selling me that idea at all. And you could
have sold me a better plan. When what the Packers
had the eighteenth overall picking the draft. I believe Matthew
(37:30):
Golden Texas wide receivers they're going to be their first
was their first round pick. Like you could have maybe
sold me if the package was, you know again, like
the Herschel Walker.
Speaker 3 (37:40):
Trade, But that's not what this package is.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
You did get two first round picks, and when you
have ultimately the highest paid quarterback in the game with
my current average annual value and one of the highest
paid receivers in the game, we were talking about the
difficulties of team building in general. With having the highest
paid defensive defensive player non quarterback now in Michael Parsons,
(38:04):
in general, that was going to be a difficult bill
to pay. In turns for the wins yeah, they take
a step back here. But again, I think this was
a team that was an eight win team at best,
So now that maybe three wins, five.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
Win team at best. No, you're right, but I just
think of it. Listen, trying to say this tactfully. Jerry's
up there in age is my point, and we know
Jerry wants to win one again, and to say he
did it, look I GMed it.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
You know I did it without Jimmy.
Speaker 4 (38:35):
Know Jimmy ties at all, And to me, well, you
just set yourself back minimum a couple of years. So
to me, that's the way I'm looking at it.
Speaker 5 (38:42):
Do you think Jerry would rather win one with Michael
Parsons having thirty sacks and being like the MVP of
the league's defensive end or go to the NFC Championship
without him because Michael Parsons will get all the credit.
Speaker 4 (38:56):
I think he'd be okay with that because he would say,
look at the guy I drive. I have to look
at the guy I sign. I know what I'm doing.
I keep my guys. It might we have a little fun,
we have a little disagreement in the offseason, but we
make it happen.
Speaker 3 (39:08):
We'll never know never know, but we do know. He
is a packer now