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Let me welcome in my partner, one of my favorite
people on the planet, mister Andy Ferman, the Cincinnati radio legend.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
I am intimidating. I'm intimidating, but I'm working with a
hall of famer, a guy who's got a press box
with his name on it at Southern con Southern con State.
I mean, you're all over the place, a hall of fame.
You're amazing, you really are. I cherish the time I
spend with you, I do well.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
You're my man. You know that I love you. We
go way back, no doubt.
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I'm gonna start to wackle right now.
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No, we don't need all that, do all that.
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But I do want to say a happy Hanakha to
you and your family and Marry Christmas to everybody. And
I hope you have honokha is still going on? Andy,
I don't know the d It's over. Okay, it's over.
Speaker 5 (03:15):
Day is over all?
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Right?
Speaker 1 (03:16):
So sometimes it's okay, Yeah, sometimes it coordinates, like with Christmas,
you know what I mean? Sometimes and then other times
it's it's off. But uh, no matter what you're celebrating today. Uh,
and you're religious, Uh, I'm celebrating being with you.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
That's a holiday for me. Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (03:33):
Always anytime we get a chance to get together, you
know that. And every summer. I want you to know.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
It's not like Andy and I are yucking it up
on the radio when I come to Cincinnati, Andy, do
I not always call you always?
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Always? That's frank.
Speaker 5 (03:48):
Still never spend time in my home. I always, in.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Fact I'm gonna get because usually I spend one night
in Cincinnati.
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You know that but you in and out.
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Yeah, it's an in and out trip. But I always
make time for my friends, no doubt. Yes, right, all right,
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Tysher is our engineer.
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Behind the curtain.
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He's still got a job.
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I love it and Alex, as always, I am most
I'm very thankful for you. Alex and I work all
the holidays to yes and we're here because Andy. There
are a lot of people who their routine includes the
Odd Couple and we have to be there for them.
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So I appreciate thank you for being.
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Thank you Robbing Rob, you wanted a fun fact about Andy.
He was the start of my FSR career here as
my full time, first full show was with him, and
it was with Rob g it was Andy Furman and
Mike North FSR.
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Daybreak.
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I call him USC Chris because he's one of my
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We don't believe in nepotism, right, Yes, no, that's no
particular but Chris is uh I was on the update
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Merry Christmas, Merry Christmas. Happy to be with you, Robin. Andy,
it's almost a miracle to recover with you after five
five years. We were doing the overnights together. And you
know what, because we always had those salami submarines, you know.
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Give me a salami, here we go, no doubt.
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Speaker 3 (06:27):
And Andy.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Let's talk about John Harball, who finally spoke about the
column that was written in the Baltimore Sun basically kind
of saying that the relationship between John Harball and Lamar
Jackson is kind of splintered, and he's fallen asleep in
meetings and they're kind of tired of him. He's like
a big baby and a grown man's body. That was
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the columnist in Baltimore who wrote that. So John Harball
spoke on it and talked about his relationship with Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Let's hear John Harbor.
Speaker 8 (07:00):
Much credence and anonymous type sources. So I don't know
where that's coming from. I've never seen I've never seen
that ever. You know that that's that's not something that
that I've ever witnessed. And I'm in every meeting, so
and to speculate and know how I feel about it,
I'll tell you how I feel. You know, I'm I'm
pretty transparent all the guys in the building will tell you.
You know, if I have something of conversation, something that
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I want to talk to him about, I'm right up front,
so that that's you know, that would be wrong to
say that that's not true. I had a great conversation
with Lamar this morning about a few things and football
and how he's feeling things like that. So our relationship
is is a plus. So I love him, always have,
always will. And uh, I know he's fighting like crazy
(07:43):
to get back. So anonymous reports or things that get
said or written or whatever, I don't really a prea.
You know, I don't need anybody speaking for me.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Okay, I'll say to Sandy, Uh he says the relationship
is good, a plus or a one. Whatever he said,
that's fine. I'm fine, he spoke. This is what he's saying.
But the one thing I just can't let go before
we get into the meat of the topic is the
whole idea about anonymous So I hear people say this
all the time. Some of the greatest journalism in the
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history of this country, Andy, has been done by reporters
getting anonymous sourcing and information.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
So stop with.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
The anonymous Oh I don't know they can't put their
name to it. No, No, plenty of stories are broken
all the time where people can't, you know, because of
they don't want to lose their careers, their jobs, but
they feel like there's a story in information that needs
to get out. So the anonymous source piece. Whenever I
hear people try to discount that, why don't they.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
Put their name to it? Have you ever heard of Watergate?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
And deep throat the guy who gave the guy who
gave him the information probably works for the Ravens and
they get a pr guy.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
You never know.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
But here's my biggest thing, Andy, and I'm just enough
with the John Harball. I get it, he won a
Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (08:58):
There.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Every single year that team is loaded with talent. They
just had they got six Pro bowlers. Any they don't.
They're under five hundred with six Pro bowlers. That tells
you what kind of talent they have. And every year
they end in disappointment. Right, somebody fumbles at the goal line,
somebody makes a bad play, somebody drops a two point conversion.
(09:20):
That's like, you could go on and on and on.
In this man's NFL. I'm always keeping the MVP two
time MVP quarterback over a football coach, especially one who
hasn't won in a long time. He won the Super Bowl.
That's nice, we gave you your parade. But if I'm
the Ravens, I'm looking to get rid of John Harbor.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
Where are you? Well?
Speaker 5 (09:44):
I will tell you this much. You know if the
NFL is a quarterback driven league, and certainly it is,
because if you look at the teams that don't win,
they don't have a quarterback. Right, Baltimore's got a quarterback.
But if you're going to compare Baltimore with another team
in that division that I'm very familiar with in Cincinnati,
the Bengals, I mean, you talk about it. There's got
Pro bowlers that Higgins chasing Burrow, and they can't even
make the freaking playoffs, right, and they keep their coach.
(10:05):
But again, sometimes the change is good. And I'm gonna
go back to what you said about this anonymous source.
Ninety nine percent of the people that read that column
in the Baltimore Sun said, oh, oh, the guys did
it to get clicks. He's doing he makes a slip. No,
because you use the term anonymous source doesn't mean it's fake,
doesn't mean it's false, and Harbaugh kind of went in
that direction and say, I don't have to listen to that,
you know, all right, it's being my own man. No,
(10:27):
it's probably too. I would say it is true because
the guy I wrote it, his butt is on the
line for writing it, and he and he's.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Been in Baltimore for a long time.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
This sain't somebody just showed up, like I think they said,
he's been covering for since eighty three or something, or
he's been there a.
Speaker 3 (10:43):
Long time, like this is a long time guy. So
I'm with you on that.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Like they when they smoke this fire, and there's people
who give information like I don't understand they always do that.
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Where are the leak's coming from? Their leaks in the
federal government, leaks on team leaks, leaked at the radio. Stay,
are you right, Andy?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
I mean, come on, no, no, But here's the thing.
I mean, here's several weeks ago they wanted to get
rid of Mike Tomlin and Pittsburgh in the same situation.
You know, they'll be one un done if in fact,
they even make the playoffs. And you know, here's a
guy that has never had a losing season. You know,
it's a great record but you know what, it's meaningless.
What does it mean? That's like saying I finished second
in the Kentucky Derby. No one cares. No, you don't win,
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nobody cares.
Speaker 3 (11:22):
At some point you have to win.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
And the Ravens haven't won since you ready, twenty fifteen, Andy,
ten years ago, twenty thirteen, more than that, I'm sorry,
twenty thirteen.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Right, twelve years?
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Like, you can't live off the one championship forever is
all I'm saying, especially when you have a talent like
Lamar and you keep every year people pick the Ravens
to get to the super Bowl or win it, like
like the last four years. Am I right? Like just about?
Oh yeah, look at the talent. A lot of people
pick them hard. At the year Andy scoring a forty
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piece in Buffalo and they lost that game.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Right, But there's always going to be an excuse, And
the excuse this year in Baltimore is the fact that
Lamar was not one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
He was heard.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
The excuse in Cincinnati is that Joe Burrow was out,
And I'm gonna go back and tell you Joe Burrow
wasn't out last year, and they still didn't make the
freaking playoffs.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (12:19):
I remember last year Joe Burrow threw nine touchdowns against
the Ravens and lost both games.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Am I right? Andy? Last year?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
Right?
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Nine touch thousand two games, Dave.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
They've had thirty two plus points in about five or
six games this year and lost those games. I don't
know how you do that. I really don't. All right,
you gotta no, no, no, it's just it's it's mind boggling,
it really is.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
But are you with me or on coaching time?
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I mean, you won't, like you said, I'll say this,
you can't give up, lamar. I don't like like you
know how hard it is to get a quarterback. And
you're right, if you don't have a quarterback in the NFL,
you can't compete, Andy, Okay, what you kids?
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Quite eat?
Speaker 5 (13:01):
You could have told anybody with an announce of brains
in August or September, the teams that don'tn't have a
starting strong quarterback are not going to go to the playoffs.
Las Vegas one of those teams. Tennessee another one of
those teams, the Jants. In fact, really you could get
the Giants. Those teams do not have what they call
a quote franchise quarterback, even Minnesota to some extent, there
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was a question walk.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
There right, well, because we didn't know about JJ McCarthy.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
It was his first year, he got heard his first year,
second year, but first year playing, So there was definitely that,
all right, eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight
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you a Super Bowl? If you're a Baltimore Ravens fan
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or enough already it's time to turn the page.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
That was twenty thirteen.
Speaker 5 (13:51):
A lot of tu there is a caveat, but there
is a bit of a caveat in this column which
I read saying that Lamar Jackson has falling the sleeping
team meetings, which.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Which John Harbaugh said isn't true. I mean he says,
I never believed that. No, I'm just because coaches today
protect their players. I like when a coach would call
a player out, they don't have to hang it down.
So to do that anymore, that's another story. But they
say he falls asleep because he's too busy staying up
late at night to play video games. So they moved
the practices from morning to afternoon. How sick is that?
Speaker 3 (14:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (14:19):
But he also Lamar was the one who had the
ping pong tables and all that stuff removed from the
locker room, right, remember that, right, You're right. He was
the one who said, Man, get all this stuff out.
We gotta focus. We're not winning. So that's why that's
that part about the video games and the afternoon. That
doesn't sound I don't know if that's in the column,
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but I know I read the story about Lamar having
all that stuff removed. All right, we want to hear
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I think Kelvin's working tomorrow, Am I right? Alex? I
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But anyway, Andy, we got calls eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox we're talking about the Ravens. Whose side
are you on, John Harball, Lamar Jackson? Which who would
you get rid of if you had to get rid
of somebody?
Speaker 5 (18:48):
The question is, though, will the Ravens get rid of
one of the other? Will they get will?
Speaker 3 (18:53):
I think they need to, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
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Hey Steve, Steve, Christmas, Merry Christmas, Steve. We appreciate you
chiming in my man.
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You're Rob.
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Rob.
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Ninety nine on Fox Drew in New Jersey. You're on
the odd couple. Fox Sports Radio, Drew, Merry Christmas to
you and the family.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
What's up?
Speaker 13 (19:54):
Yeah, Mary, Merry Christmas. So I think I'd go with
I'd stick with, uh John Harbor for the one reason
I think that Lamar Jackson's is appreciating asset, especially if
you look at running quarterbacks at the age of thirty one.
Speaker 3 (20:12):
He's not a running quarterback. Come on, Drew, have you
watched this.
Speaker 13 (20:16):
Guy Russell Wilson after thirty one? Same thing?
Speaker 3 (20:21):
You really? Did you see the start of this season?
Did you see the start.
Speaker 13 (20:25):
Of the season, Yes, he saw him get hurting.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
He put up forty points in Baltimore, he's got two
MVP's already. What is John Harbaugh? Don nah, I don't
buy that. I'm asking you about John Harball and this
team since twenty thirteen.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
Yes, he won a Super Bowl. Every year is disappointing.
And it's not always Lamar.
Speaker 13 (20:47):
You're the last game of the seasons the works for
Lamar Jacksons.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
No, it's not, I tell you this much. It's funny
you mentioned that because every time they fail in the postseason,
who gets to blame? Never Harball? They say, they say,
Lamar Jacks, you can't hitle the bright lights. And they
always say that. And then and let me tell you last.
Speaker 3 (21:03):
Year, last year, last year, last last year. Didn't didn't
Mark Andrews drop a two point get a two point
and the tighter game? Yes? Flowers did Flowers the one
yard line against Kansas City in the AFC Championship game.
Speaker 5 (21:20):
Yes, game of.
Speaker 3 (21:25):
If I'm not buying it because.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
They get knocked out of even if you want to
get rid of Lamar. Okay, let's agree with you for
a second. Who do you put in there?
Speaker 3 (21:34):
You nothing? No quarterbacks?
Speaker 13 (21:38):
How many first round picks are you going to give me?
Speaker 12 (21:40):
If you give me.
Speaker 13 (21:41):
Ten, I'll.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
There's twenty teams in the NFL that would take Lamar
Jackson in a minute, like, you must be crazy because
nobody has a quarterback. Ask the Vikings, you could ask
all these teams. Look at these guys that they're putting in.
They had to go get Philip Rivers. The Colts thought
they were going to win a game with Philip Rivers,
a forty four year old.
Speaker 5 (22:05):
I'm not. You gotta put the eggnog down. Really, come
on now.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
Thanks, Drew, appreciate it. H Let's go to Bert in Baltimore.
You're on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's
up Bert?
Speaker 14 (22:18):
Yeah, Merry Christmas, guys. He's doing a great job. I
just want to say happy near into horror truth. But
also that last guy is clueless. He's got Lamar de
arrangment syndrome. He's clueless. He's lost in Yonkers. He needed
to check out from.
Speaker 12 (22:30):
The neck up.
Speaker 14 (22:31):
My point is this, I think Harbor is great. My
point is the problem is the NFL. Look how Lamar
got hurt? Number one? They have all these games he's playing,
They change schedules, they travel across the seas. Look football,
you need the rest and what the NFL's doing. They're
saturating these players. They're not getting any rest, they're changing
schedules and they're getting the hellbia Look, the machine breaks down.
Speaker 12 (22:52):
So you hitch a cue of them.
Speaker 14 (22:54):
Soon you're not around. And that's part of the problem.
And the other part the problem is are stupid We
didn't figure and how protection? Lamar got sacked seven times
before you get hurt, got sacked I before that, and
that's why it's hurt. It's not his fault. But you're
absolutely right about Lamar. He did not lose game.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
I know. And you know what, even even earlier this year, Bert,
you watched the game. They put up forty points in
Baltimore in the opener, Derek hen we fumble the ball twice.
What I just you're blaming Lamar for that game? How?
Speaker 5 (23:25):
And you're so right about the NFL because you cannot
be one hundred percent physically if you're playing on Sunday
and coming back to play on Thursday.
Speaker 3 (23:32):
It just can't do it. It's ridiculous. All right.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
Uh, we got Will Blackman, of course, the former NFL
twelve year veteran and analysts for NFL Network. That and
much more we'll do that professors get you caught up,
USC Chris and USC Chris. I don't know what the
Lions score is, but I'm getting Texas from friends, so
it can't be good.
Speaker 7 (23:53):
It's uh, it's gone from work. It's gone from bad
to worse. The ghost to Christmas Future that was the
freaky one is really really hanging their hand on him
right now. Yeah, So Minnesota just scored a sixty five
yard touchdown run from Jordan Side.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
They gave up two forty five runs and last week
sixty five.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
However, sixty five yards is almost the total up until
that point of Minnesota's offense as well. This has just
been rough to watch. I think we've got about a
full dozen, yes, a full dozen of sacks five to
Jared Goff, seven to Max of Brosmer. But yes, that
Vikings touchdown makes it twenty to ten with three minutes
to go. It is getting extremely late for the Detroit
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Lions here, and this with a loss here, they would
be eliminated from the playoffs if my calculus holds up.
So not good at all, whatsoever.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
Rob.
Speaker 7 (24:48):
Earlier today in the NFL, Dallas Cowboys thirty to twenty
three over the Washington Commanders Dak Prescott with two touchdowns,
one of those an eighty six yard bomb with Cavante
Turpin and action, Let's talk about it. The Golden State
Warriors holding on to a one point fifteen one oh
four lead over the Dallas Mavericks with about four minutes
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to play in that game earlier NBA Action. The Knicks
put up a forty two point fourth quarter to power
pass the Cavaliers one twenty six, one twenty four, thirty
four points for Jalen Brunson, and the Spurs close out
the Thunder one seventeen to one oh two, Victor Wembin
Yama with nineteen points ten rebound day. Jeff Passen reporting
(25:31):
that Tyler Soderstrom and the A's are an agreement for
a seven year, eighty six million dollar contract, with the
club option for an eighth season. Escalators can max that
out to one hundred and thirty one million dollars in
total value, making it the highest paying contract the As
have given out in franchise history. Robin Andy back to you,
all right, and.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
And is there a sack fumble? A lot of lions shy,
I'm watching right now.
Speaker 7 (25:58):
We've you know, everything's on kind of a delayed Yes,
actually it was a bad snap by Minnesota, completely uh
by the Lions, completely bad snap way past Jared Goff,
Minnesota has come up, come up with the ball. So
this one's this one's almost in the barn.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Yeah, all right, thanks so much, USC, Chris appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
It is the couple. Now, let's welcome in our man.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Will Blackman, Uh, of course, twelve year NFL VET, NFL
network FS one, the CW he's all over the place.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
Welcome into the odd couple on Christmas night. We appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (26:36):
What's happening. Good to see you guys, and.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Say hello to to Andy Furman.
Speaker 5 (26:42):
How are you doing?
Speaker 4 (26:43):
Happy hell, happy hell? Living a dream?
Speaker 3 (26:48):
All right? Are we good?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Okay, we have some issues problem there. Let let's go here, Will,
let's start. The Lions are about to lose to the
Minnesota Vikings. I'm not bragging. I'm just called proof of performance.
Did not pick the Lions or to choose to make
the playoffs this year. How shocked are you at the
Lions are not going to make the playoffs considering they
had the number one seed last year.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
We're fifteen and two.
Speaker 4 (27:12):
Yeah, I want to say I'm totally surprised, But I
would go back to when they lost the I think
it was an anty championship game to the Niners a
couple of years yeah, two years.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Yeah, that was that was the one where they were
blowing out the Niners the first half of the game.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Yeah. And the thing that stood up to me was
post game when coach Campbell said we might not ever
get back, you know, and I understand that. Yes, it's very,
very difficult. You know, I played twelve years and I've
been to the Super Bowl once, right, and never really
got back. You know, got to the playoffs a couple
of times. But it is difficult. But that's something that
I wouldn't have really said to put that energy out there.
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And yeah, and then you know, obviously the big thing
is too you lose you know, your two coordinators. And
in the beginning it's looking like it's okay because you
still have the nucleus of the players, but it's different
when you don't have those play calls that you need.
Especially you look at Ben Johnson what he's doing now.
So I think just coachally, all around, chemistry wise, it's
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just it's that time, you know, people now figured out
the Lions, and you know they're going through their rough
patch right now. It looks like, well I want.
Speaker 5 (28:24):
To follow up on that a little bit of like
can because Dan Campbell, coach of the Lions, started calling
the plays you mean Dan Gamble, Dan Camum sorry, and
Ben Johnson right now has turned the Bears around. Has
Ben Johnson been that valuable that big of a loss
for Detroit and and what has he done to turn
the Bears around? Basically the same personnel.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
Yeah, I think what he what he's done in terms
of at Detroit was yeah, they made they put up
crazy numbers and just what he was doing the play call,
and I would say, you know the thing for the
Bears is, you know, I'm going to give my guy
Brian Poles some love, who I played with that BC
general manager. You know, they they really they invested in
the offensive line and they got their return on investment immediately.
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I mean you look, last year, Kayla got sacked sixty
eight times and this year only I think like twenty
four times he's been sacked.
Speaker 3 (29:15):
What a crazy number, you know what.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I'm saying just that alone. So now he's able to
play quarterback and also too, you have a more stable situation,
you have good pieces, You're able to run the ball better.
You bringing Dennis Allen with Al Harris, and you know
the defense is causing turnovers and Al Harris another one too.
Everywhere he's been, you know, the secondary has been in
or the defense has been in top three and turnovers
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back and when he was with Kansas City, with the
Cowboys and now with the Bear. So it's just overall,
I think, just a complete staff, front office like they're
in Unison. You know, when I was playing, I learned quickly.
You know, the foundation starts upstairs with the ownership, to
the executives, down to the front office, down to the coaches,
players all that. I mean, that's all insanc you got.
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I have a good product in the field, and that's
what I see with the Bears right now.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
And Caleb Williams, my goodness, gracious, there are a lot
of people who have bashed this kid, like last year,
even the beginning of this year. I mean, it wasn't
that long ago heard somebody said the Bears were winning
in spite of Caleb because he doesn't throw fifty he
doesn't complete more than fifty percent of his past or
whatever the number was. And I'm like, dude, can we
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look at like winning making plays? He has six fourth
quarter comebacks Tye and Peyton Manning, Like in a season.
How in the world could you look at that kid?
And I think he has something going there special?
Speaker 3 (30:38):
Is he perfect? No, it's only his second year, He's
got a new coach, a new play caller, all that.
But I love what I'm seeing from cayleb. What about you?
Speaker 4 (30:47):
Yeah, I mean Caleb since since David, since high school,
he's always been a playmaker. I mean he has a
game winner, winning the state championship in high school, you know,
Hail Mary at the buzzer to win that, and then
at Oklahoma when he got thrown in there, you know
for Spencer Ratler, and he just was just crazy making plays.
And the same thing and usc is the thing with
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him that he's always had that playmaker, that clutch Gane.
He's always had that And and I'm just assuming people
just had a problem with him as a person.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
Agree with you.
Speaker 4 (31:19):
It kind of reminds me of like Aaron Rodgers is,
like you either like him or you don't. He bothers
you whatever he's doing, but you can't deny, like how
talented he is, and so that's why it's you know,
not to go with Aaron Rodgers. But this whole bad
teammate narrative like that was put out there is so
funny because I play with him. He's one of my
favorite teammates, and obviously everyone's showing him love. But it's
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just people are just bothered the fact that he's unbothered
by what people are thinking. So I just love he's
in a situation with a coach like Ben Johnson, Who's who,
Who's now put him in the right position. And that's
what's going up with just young quarterbacks around the whole league, Like,
are these guys in stable environments where they can actually
be a football player. You look at Drake May, you know,
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he's in a stable environment now he can perform. Jadon
Daniels was last year. Obviously he dealt with some injuries,
and what Sadur and Jackson dark they are in the
most chaotic situations where they can't even they can't perform.
So I'm just happy that Caleb is in a stable
situation where he can show what he can do.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
And you got one more. We got about a minute
and a half.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I got a quickly. I got a quickie. I want
to talk about the Rams wide receiver, pook and the coop.
He had an anti phyuiccle, thank you very much. He
had a social media post and he did apologize for that.
But there was no suspension to a fine. Nothing I've
heard of. And in the workplace, you do something like that,
in the workplace, you're gone. You can't even get your
stuff off your desk. They'll send it to you. So
I don't get it. I mean, how do you get
away with that stuff? The apology probably wasn't even written
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by him, probably by his agent. How does that happen?
Tell me that.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
Will get away with it? In terms in terms of
who the Rams or the NFL.
Speaker 3 (32:48):
No Pooka, I mean, but he got he got nothing,
no fine, nothing.
Speaker 5 (32:54):
I didn't I didn't see it. I didn't hear about it.
Speaker 10 (32:56):
Well I don't.
Speaker 3 (32:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
I don't know what the what the league, the whole
thing with that with them was. But I know with
Sean McVay, he again he's like, I know I know
the person, I know this and that third, So the
Rams aren't gonna do anything, especially if the league didn't
come down on it. So they're usually in places the
lead doesn't come down on it, and then the organization
is like, well, we're not gonna do that, especially you know,
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we need poker, So why are we're gonna penalize him
as the league didn't.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
So here's my only thing. And I know people are
young and naive. Somebody tells you to do something, well,
and you don't know what you're doing.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Like like, that's that's the one. What do you hey,
do this? You know what I mean, and you have
no idea what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
I just I question that.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, I mean, but that's that's the risk you that's
the risk you have when you start streaming, you start vlogging,
you do all that stuff. Following on second, please, yeah,
you start doing all that stuff. And so that's just
the risk. You know. So once you put yourself out there,
you put yourself on the spotlight, you're subjected to anything.
So that's that is his fault. I'm not giving him
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an excuse me, not right, but that's that's just what
That's just the risk you run.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
No doubt.
Speaker 1 (34:04):
All right, well, black men, we appreciate you taking some
time on this Christmas night for you.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And your family. Man Thank you so much, and we'll
talk to you soon.
Speaker 4 (34:12):
Will Yeah, of course, anytime I have wings, think of
my dog man.
Speaker 3 (34:17):
You already know. Let me tell you this. Are you ready? Yase?
Speaker 1 (34:20):
You know I did bet some wings, but I did
also bet and are you ready to two pair of
Jordans this past football season. Ready one that the Lions
wouldn't make the playoffs? So I got that one today
right with this loss, so they're out.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
And one pair with the Chiefs not making the playoffs.
That's am I right?
Speaker 1 (34:43):
Two pair of Jordan's and I got some other wing bets,
So I'm always.
Speaker 10 (34:48):
That's the fight.
Speaker 4 (34:49):
What Jordan's you get, because you might get some old teen.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
Jordan No, no, no, I's gotta be like two hundred, two
hundred minimum, two.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Hundred minimum, no doubt.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
All right, man, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Andy,
I'm with it. You know what I'm saying. Don't come
with and that's right baby, all right? Coming up next
to Little Shekel City, we'll get some of that. Also,
talk about Charles Barkley ripping the NFL. We'll get that
and much more. It is the odd couple on a
TV theme song Thursday on your Christmas Night, Rob Parker
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Speaker 3 (35:53):
It is the odd couple.
Speaker 1 (35:54):
Rob Parker Andy Furman in for kelvin Washington on this
Christmas night and Andy, it is over in Minneapolis. The
Lions have lost what was the final there?
Speaker 3 (36:10):
What was it?
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Twenty twenty three ten? It's a rap. So the Lions
are officially out of the playoffs. And the unbelievable they
were fifteen in me last year. It really is like
I said, I didn't.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Think that they they you know, I hate to use
that excuse because every team has injuries, but they their backfield,
their defensive end of the field, and it is decimated.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
A lot of teams have injuries, and I'm okay, last
year their defense was beat up and still Vegas gave.
They were nine and a half point favorites in that
game against Washington, right, because they believe they could outscore them.
The Lions have the second best offense score points wise
in the league.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
But they couldn't.
Speaker 1 (36:51):
They haven't been able to run the ball, all this
other stuff. But anyway, that's where it is a lot
of people in Detroit crying in their beers because last
year people thought they had a chance to get to
the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (37:01):
And now that three years Eddy look at, they're going backwards. Right.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
They went from NFC Championship Game fifteen and two last year,
losing their first playoff game because they had to buy
for Week one. Right, they lose their first playoff game
to Washington and now year three don't even make the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
That's Johnson, that's the biggest loss.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Yes, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
All.
Speaker 1 (37:22):
Right now it's talk for Sheckle City.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Welcome to shekel City. Oh for Rob Parkers, Dalley Dicks
against the Sprat.
Speaker 3 (37:38):
Did I knew that? Did I knew that? Here we go?
Speaker 2 (37:41):
Andy?
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Last night we didn't have any games. But I'm ninety
nine and ninety one going into tonight, ninety nine and
ninety one.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
On the season.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I got the Denver Broncos minus thirteen at Kansas City.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Have they moved to Kansas yet or they're still in
Kansas City? Out that? And oh my god, I think
that's right, very nice. We aren't in Kansas anymore. No,
yes you are royal, I mean.
Speaker 1 (38:11):
Chiefs, Chiefs Rockets minus two and a half taking on
the Lakers in Los Angeles. And I got the Nuggets
minus two and a half. They're hosting the Timberwols in Denver.
So again, Rockets minus two and a half, Nuggets minus
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two and a half and the Denver Broncos minus thirteen.
And remember, Andy, I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you who I bet on. So so, Charles Barkley,
do we have Shay? Can you read a little bit
of it? Charles Barkley. Andy kind of ripped the NFL
because you know, normally this used to be the NBA's
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coming out party, but now it's no longer. The NFL decide, no,
we're taking over Christmas. Everybody's home watching. They got three
games on Christmas. The NBA has what five or six
games on the night, like so all we got audio.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Here's here's Charles Barkle.
Speaker 10 (39:11):
The NFL got greed and started a Christmas game. We
used to have this day to ourselves. But you know,
Roger Goodell and them pigs at the NFL always every
day of the week. Now they can't play.
Speaker 11 (39:23):
The NBA.
Speaker 3 (39:24):
Dude.
Speaker 10 (39:26):
I saw those guys yesterday on the ESPN talk about it,
and they're right. Christmas is an NBA day.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
And we are you do you agree with it?
Speaker 5 (39:35):
It is an NBA day. And look, I'm from the
East Coast and so are you. And I think there's
more interest in basketball on the East Coast and football
maybe on wrong because you got the Jets and Giants
and no one cares about them. And basically there's no
college football on the East Coast, especially in the New
York mench Ofpollin area. But I will tell you this.
You know today they had ten NBA teams playing five games,
all right. One of those teams had a losing record,
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and that was the Dallas Mavericks. And they have Cooper Flag,
so people want to see Cooper play. As far as
the NFL is concerned, three games, two on Netflix and
won on a Amazon Prime. You know, I don't think a
lot of people are gonna pay for those games. They're
meetingless games basically, they really are. You know, Denver, Kansas City.
When they promoted that game months ago, it was a
decent game, doesn't mean anything. Now you don't even know
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who the quarterback, and the Chiefs is now staying out
to their third quarterback.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Right because the minshew got hurt, he's out, and of
course Patrick mahomes both of them. I guess here I
am with the NFL. He's right about this. I love
that he used the word pig. I thought that was
like a bus. But they are like all over the place,
all these injuries. Guys playing Andy two games in eleven days,
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you know what I mean, because they're playing the Thursday whatever,
like like it was great Sunday Monday night football.
Speaker 3 (40:47):
I'm good with. We don't need all the other games.
Black Friday games, Saturday games, Thursday games. Everywhere. The NFL
is all over It's ridiculous. It's like a disease. Every
Black Friday is Black Friday.
Speaker 12 (41:00):
Yeah,