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Speaker 1 (01:42):
Sweetie Beaty.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Y and welcome into the Odd Couple on this trash
Talking Tuesday. Except for the first time in Odd Couple
history here in seven years.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
What's that? It is not a trash talk Tuesday.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
It's an ass showing Tuesday, because I'm gonna be showing
my ass at least for the first hour of this
radio program. To my partner Kelvin Washington, why is that who?
I told you over and over that the Knicks did
not overachieve, that they underachieved, and that Tom Thibodeau deserved
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to be fired. And guess what happened today before we
came into this radio show.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
What happened?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Tom Thibodeau got fired. You fired, They call me mister Tibbs.
Is now on the unemployment line.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
He is a unemployment line. He is updating his LinkedIn page.
That's without a doubt.
Speaker 4 (02:43):
And I tried to tell you this yesterday. We went
on and on and on about this, but we'll get
to this. Do you feel better? How do you feel
after yesterday? You made your case that they were overachievers
and let let's keep it the way it is and
the Knicks just have to keep building the ball.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
I always you know, sitting next to me for weeks
that I personally don't like Tom Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
You've heard me say that for weeks.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
But that's that's what I still believe the Knicks over
achieved that, and you can fire Tom Thibodeau.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
You can fire achievement. Does that make sense? I'm just
asking you.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
I'm logically absolutely the nixt overachieved, right.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
If they believe they overachieved, why would they fire him.
There's coaches who are Coach of the Year who get fired.
You know that sports too long. I want you to acknowledge,
absolutely not. I want you to acknowledge and accept that
you were wrong. You know you were wrong. Here's the
thing I want you to say it. Say it was wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Here's the reason why, the reason why, here's the reason
why I won't say it.
Speaker 3 (03:49):
I said it because you never say you're wrong.
Speaker 5 (03:52):
You That.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
Ain't ai to me? What is that? What is that?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
Number two? I don't care if they fire time to No,
that's not the point. Point is he got fired, but
they still over at chieved.
Speaker 4 (04:06):
They did not. It doesn't change. Get off of that pig.
Who did you pick series? Don't look who who told you?
I don't believe in that you picked that series. I
told you.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
Want you to tell me how a team no who series?
Tell me how a team that overachieved fire did you
pick to win the series? Let's welcome into the odd
Couple crew find radio programm. Who did you pick the
win the series? Rob g is our producer, Alex is
our engineer. Who who did you?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Elijah? Social Media Google? I don't even remember.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
The picks, probably the Knicks, probably the nixt I don't remember, Rob,
I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
You said several times, day after day, the Pacers are
gonna win the Knicks going over the pass.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Okay, that's what I thought. So I picked the Pacers.
You picked the paper several people.
Speaker 4 (05:03):
No, no, no, no. But here's the issue. I just want
you to know you call it no not. I don't
want credit, Okay, I don't you do. I want you.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
You do want credit. I want you and.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
To acknowledge that your argument yesterday that that achieved no no, no,
that the argument that they overachieved was illogical, reckless and dumb.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
You just focusing on the Thibodeau because that you said
Thadau should be fired.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
He Why did I say? Why?
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Why did I say should be fired. I still stand
on the fact they overachieved. You don't all walked into this.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
We all, we all walked into this playoff series, including
you listening and the Knicks. We're gonna lose there. They're
not gonna be Boston. They're not gonna do this terrible
preced You spent the whole class about the.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Boston not when they be Boston and Indiana's in front
of them.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
It's just you think this up by fourteen.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
This was way less about that, and this was more
about him not getting the most out of out of caps.
This was him about burning No his guys, That's.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
What it was about, not getting to the NBA finals
when that organization believed.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
That they had a shot once they beat Boston. That's
what it is. Stop it.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
So all of a sudden, he got fired in two days.
Of course, he got fired. Nobody in that nobody expected
the Knicks to get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
You said he should be fired, You said he got fired,
but you said, that's a great goal I will get
I have no problem saying now what I want you
to say. You're wrong, that you're wrong about the achievement. No, no, no,
I strongly stand on that. That's the part I stand
on more thing, and they overachieved. Nobody expected this. No,
they did not. Stop saying that. It's illogical what you're saying.
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It doesn't make sense, Kelvin. Nobody did not. The next
year beat in the finals.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
It was the self beat the Celtics, the Cavaliers.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
No, you change expectations once they knocked off the defending champ.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
Just they were game and a half away from being
in the finals. And now they didn't overachieve.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
No, they did not, because they didn't get there. You bet,
I give you props. You said Tim should be fired
and got fired. You got that right. I'm literally telling
you you got that right, my man.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
But I got that.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Because I was logical about what had happened, and the
franchise looked at it and said, we just blew a
chance to get to the finals.
Speaker 3 (07:31):
Tims didn't get it done right, and that was it.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Not only did you blow Game one with a fourteen
point lead, they didn't even win Game two.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
At home after they lost that game, that's what happened.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's mediac person thought, that's mediocre person. Nobody cares about
Rob Parker.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Nobody cares thought they were going that far. That's why
you want to be.
Speaker 4 (07:54):
The Dallas Cowboys and all that, or or the Pittsburgh
Steelers talking about you finished for five hundred.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
No make changes when things don't.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Go right, and they may changes. And they overachieved. It
doesn't matter how much you yelled. They overachieved. Everybody knows.
That's not what I do. That's not even a question.
You know they overachieved. Not a single person expected them.
Speaker 4 (08:16):
To just like that, going to beat Washington, just like
I told you that, Just just like I told you
about the stuff that I told you. Whatever you want,
who was the m v P? You know, what are
you asking me for? I didn't ask you to tell you?
Did I ask you to?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
I told you if I told you for months?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:36):
Okay? Did you also have them winning? First?
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I screamed and told you for my first day on
the show that Eli Manning wasn't getting in the Hall
of Fame. I told you that.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
I can't even count up the did you even bring it?
I can't even count up the losses?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Did you even bring in Rob g Ali? Did all
that we did, all that?
Speaker 4 (08:55):
You just weren't listening like you weren't yesterday when I
tried to tell you what we were going to see here,
and I just want you to know. You could disagree
with my opinion, but it's usually based on experience knowledge.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
Stop it, no, hoop it.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
God, I've I've been covering pro sports man stopping thirty year.
Well know the Knicks overachieved. No, they did not, absolutely
stop it. You didn't picking verse the Celtics. You didn't
pick and verse the Pacers. But they didn't overachieve.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
No, Once they beat the Celtics, everything changed. That's that's
the way you look.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
At I don't know. That is the part I strongly disagree.
I was even show up.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Seriously, the next not a great season, stopping total failure.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
They went out and made a trade. They got a
single person.
Speaker 1 (09:47):
In the final first round picks or then that was
for championship.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
That wasn't to be mediocre.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
And they and they played the team who had the
best record since the turn of the year other than
the nobody.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Nobody cares about, and they lost.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
They had the best team since the second half. Okay,
they they they had them down fourteen points with two
thirty eight game one.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Now you better hope that the Knicks for once in
their life, do something right.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
They got the guy. He's sitting right out there all
I gotta do. We better do something right. Michael Malone,
guess where he's from. He's from Queens, New York. His
dad coached the Knicks. He was an assistant at the Knicks.
He's wanted an NBA championship. It's in his back pocket.
Not ten years ago, two years ago.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Mike Malone, Malone, what I'm asking real quick, like if
he's guy.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
It happens all the time.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
It happens all the Michael pat Riley also went went
from the Lakers to the Knicks.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
Pat Riley went from the Knicks to Miami. I could
talk about a lot of coaches.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Can we compare Mike Malone. You're asking me about leaving.
What I'm saying, why if pat.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Rowley ever leave the Lakers? They were great, it's a
great franchise.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
Why did he leave because he wanted to? Because people
move on and Michael Bologne didn't do much with the
best player. He got to a finals and won it
and didn't do nothing else. Mike Malone is a Mike
malonea is a good coach. I'm saying the Knicks better
unnicked and get it right, because everything they do typically
doesn't go right. And you got your owner talking about
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I don't want to go do the shiny thing. You
got your owner, Jim Dolan. I don't want to we
I think we always go wrong. We go and try
to get something new or bigger and shinier. All right,
And I'm not even a Thibodeau guy, but Tom Thibodeau
did break some stability. Tom Thibodeau did get you to
the postseason two years in a row and got you
further than you've been in the last twenty five years.
So just be careful. You got your star player who
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wanted them, Jalen Brunson. All right, it's not like Phil
Jackson was sitting.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
There get over.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
Championship in their back pocket. Then I'm only asking. So
I'm saying Mike Malone like there's no other.
Speaker 4 (12:03):
That's the hire that if I was running the team.
I don't run the team. I'm told you yesterday I
would hire Michael Malone. I told you that the Lakers
should fire JJ Reddick and hire Michael.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Malone doing it.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
I told you that just to sell with their guy
who has not a good coach who's not a good
coach after years that's still.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
He had a bad year. No, he didn't. You look
at somebody that coach.
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Jay Wright is somebody that that I can see being
tossed around because he Jay.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
Wright has a great life. Man, I don't know what else.
What would he want to do.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
He wants to coach? Coach? Don't coaches coach?
Speaker 7 (12:40):
Man?
Speaker 3 (12:40):
He wait for the right opportunities.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
Bill Cower asked Bill Cower who who went to CBS
after he won a Super Bowl Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Has he been back coaching? There's a lot of coaches
who a hundred million who goes? You know John Madden?
John Mann was a great coach with the Raiders.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
Why can't j write coach? I'm just saying, Jay Wright,
if the Knicks called him, you got your guy. Literally,
most people don't get to coach guys. You might get
a guy. Oh I had this one kid back in
the day. You have multiple Villanova guys on a team
that just has made the postseason a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (13:12):
I could see j Wright entertaining that eight.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Seven, seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine. Did the Knicks get
it right by dumping TIBs. They called me, mister TIBs.
And do you trust them to find someone who's better
this Sunday?
Speaker 3 (13:32):
I mean this summer. Sorry, it is the odd guy part.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
I don't Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington on a ass
showing Tuesday. Yes, trash Talking Tuesday is coming up an
hour number two, But I'm showing my ass on this
Tuesday because I talked a Kelvin Washington.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yes, you know what I got smoked for. I'm trash
talking later. I'm gonna save it for later, Alex.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
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Speaker 3 (14:00):
And you know what you need to do, stick and
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this in the US of A.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
I'm gonna be showing my ass at least for the
first hour of this radio program.
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It is The Odd Couple, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington, on
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what did you say?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
Showing out, showing you butt. It's an ass showing Tuesday.
I swear that's what you do every day, you know that.
Roight tonight, I'm showing my ass.
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phone calls. Tip got fired? Did he deserve it? Should
he not have? Did the Knicks over chieve?
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Under? Chieved what we got?
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Tyler in Phoenix joined the Odd Couple of Fox Sports radio.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
What's up Tyler?
Speaker 8 (15:30):
Hey guys, Yes, sorry, man, I'm gonna address this with
that trash talking Tuesday angle. As a Pacers fan, I
wish they had Captive because next year in the playoffs,
it'd be the same results against the Pacers guys for
decades running players into the ground. And I'm gonna get
to New York organization credit for making a business decision.
(15:51):
He got them to a certain ceiling.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Yep, just good for them.
Speaker 8 (15:55):
It's respectable when he got done. But I apportunate people say, well,
this is a fair It's not a bunk fair business decision.
Somebody else might be able to get them to that next.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Leve There you go.
Speaker 8 (16:05):
It wasn't gonna happen. But I'll say this last thing.
Speaker 7 (16:08):
I want.
Speaker 8 (16:08):
I want to ask this question, but you know, hang
up here, your your answers, but consider this next year
with the Tims coach and the loss. Say maybe didn't
make a few tweets. The Knicks are gonna finish one
through three in the East with Indiana and Cleveland. How
in the world was Tips going to be able to
beat Cleveland? Indiana is okayse here, whoever comes out of
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the West next year without even the possible. Now, I
hope your answer.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
I kind of heard that last part a little bit there.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
I think, uh, you can replace Tims with Malone or whomever.
The one one of the issues whoever is going to
be is gonna have to figure out is Carl Anthony
Towns and Jalen brunts and that that pairing doesn't work often.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Going to happen with Malone. So that's what that's what
he's reporting. Is he reporting or is a tweet he
who doing what? Some reporter at the New York Post.
Speaker 9 (16:57):
Stephen Bonding Your post covers the Knicks put a tweet
out as you guys were arguing earlier, says you can
forget about Michael Malone, a's replacement for Tims not gonna
happen period.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
That's I don't know if that's a report or not,
but that's and that's kind of vague from him, Like
I want him to say sources are inside exactly.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
That's what just just me. I talked to a source
of the New York Nicks to say he is not on.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Their unless he's insinuating that like trust full disclosure.
Speaker 9 (17:25):
Two days ago, we had reports of the athletic knicksbeat
writers saying unlikely Tims was getting fired, and then that
was out.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
There, which is what we were talking yesterday.
Speaker 1 (17:33):
When Jalen Brunton came out and said co signed and
then you had that report, I was like, well, maybe
they that's their guy.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
Uh, they got him locked in? Who nicks?
Speaker 4 (17:41):
Tim in Atlanta? You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
What's up, Tim, Chili?
Speaker 10 (17:45):
What what up?
Speaker 3 (17:47):
Chili?
Speaker 7 (17:48):
Hey? Real quick?
Speaker 10 (17:49):
Rob is gonna be one of those people that he
gets buried. He's gonna be down and everybody that's right.
Speaker 4 (17:56):
One last time, I'm gonna borrow the chat from Alex
and I'm gonna wear those in my coffin.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
Oh wow, but Alex, you got some prince joints, you said,
So here's.
Speaker 10 (18:09):
The game with Tills. Robert I couldn't get on yesterday,
but I could not agree with you more. He has
had the star players, he's had great teams, and eventually
all of them he wore down. He wore Dack Rose,
he wore when he was in Minnesota. He wore the
guys down. A lot of guys had to complain. Said
then he did the last game last year and let
the injury and then he came back and repeated the
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same thing this year, which just shaid something. And the
only reason that he did the bench is because he
was forced to because the players had to speak up
and finally say something. So at some point, you know,
you got to kind of hold this guy responsible. He
only gets to a certain point and then but he
can never get over the arms. And I also want
to say, Rob, I hope you know, I want to
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share some of those wings that Andre had, And I
want Andre to have the same energy that he told
you about to bring about tears. You remember he said
last week you want everybody to have the same energy.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yep shows up.
Speaker 4 (19:03):
So I want to see that same A know, we
got to hear from Andre to remember that truck Hoddan
in Boston. You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
What's up trunk of Don? What's happening buddy?
Speaker 11 (19:20):
Hi guys, thanks for taking by call. Another good show.
I like I like the energy everything NKS except for
Rob Parker showing.
Speaker 7 (19:29):
His trust me.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I'm the one got to sit here and look at it.
This is crazy. We don't have an HR apartment, though
I got a helmet.
Speaker 11 (19:37):
With a blast shield. You might want to part.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
I'm gonna have Rogers to get our address so you
can send it this way.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Sounds good.
Speaker 11 (19:45):
Hey, I'm going to agree and disagree with Rob Kubideau
expectations at the beginning of the season. We're not the finals,
just we're not. I agree that after they beat the Celtics,
expectations went up some. But Thibodeau brought them to a
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place they haven't been in thirty somewhat years, and so
you know, he definitely deserved another shot at, you know,
maybe working a little bit better with the players that
he had. He did use too few players.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yeah, that's that's his mo for summary. I don't know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
He just always does that, and that you got to
know that when you brought him in like that's just
when you fucking rhyme people down all the time.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
All right, thank you for the call.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Chruck it down too, too, and send me that a
motorcycle matter with Advisor because I'm not trying to look
at him right now.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
You got Aphra salam all the way right now.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
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Speaker 1 (20:51):
Good good to get Mookie back, Steve. He definitely needed
for sure. We already got couple Rob Parker Kevin Washington
on a trash talking Tuesday, and we are joined now
by our guy from Look at that Man All Your
Time Too. I didn't think we're gonna gett all this
time to beginning away. We were arguing at the top
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Speaker 7 (21:12):
Say, are you guys in the same studio? Yes, y'all
hug each other? Man listening to y'all y'all hug each
other right now?
Speaker 1 (21:22):
Get up over the like was like your kids eat now,
y'all hug and go to bed.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
He from mister ass showing Tuesday out here on a couple.
Speaker 7 (21:31):
Oh well, don't hug him.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, he looking like nineteen eighty four prints right now,
except he ain't petit.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
He ain't petit.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
Hey, hey, he from let's start there with the Knicks
uh and just uh tims being let go?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Where were you on it?
Speaker 7 (21:47):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (21:47):
You surprised or not?
Speaker 7 (21:49):
Look I during the series, I was like, oh, he
gonna get fired right, just based on how he was
coaching and how he was being out coached. Now after
the series, given what the Knicks have been the last
few years since he's been there and how far they went,
I was like, Ah, they probably give one more year.
So I was kind of in this this furgatory place
(22:12):
of some of the things I watched him do live
actively or coaching or lack of coaching. Then I was like, yeah,
he's gonna be replaced because he's severely getting out coached.
But then I was like, the big totality of the
picture of him bringing the Knicks back to prominence and
for the first time in thirty years, I figured they
would give him one more So I guess I'm not
(22:33):
truly surprised, But you know, if they don't have a
suitable replacement a guy in mind, I don't know what
they're gonna do.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
Yeah, sometimes you got to get rid of people if
you realize once you realize somebody's not it's like a job, right,
I've worked at places once you realize they don't have
your best interest at hand, or you know what I mean, Ephralm,
and you're not gonna move up.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
You leave right away. You don't waste years.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
You don't think they've told you that they're not going
to do whatever it is for you, so there's no
reason to stick around. And in this case, if you
really believe you can't win with them, you might as
well move on because they could could.
Speaker 3 (23:12):
Have given him another year.
Speaker 4 (23:13):
He's already gonna be paid for two more, right, so
they could just say, well, we're paying him anyway.
Speaker 3 (23:18):
You don't have to do that.
Speaker 4 (23:19):
And from to me, after they lost game one and
they couldn't even win Game two, and I was like,
there's no way people in New York they expected to
go to the finals after they beat the Celtics.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
They did, losing those first two games that at home.
That was tough.
Speaker 10 (23:34):
Man.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
I was like, I don't know about this.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
I think I just think they overachieved. And I'm not
a Tims guy. I don't really If he's gone, he's gone.
I think he's the same Mo everywhere he's gone, same
same type of thing. The only thing I will give
him credit for is something that I think, and you
know this could be NFL teams need an identity, teams
need a foundation, and I do think he at least
gave them that that they you knew what you were
gonna get. They're gonna fight, they're gonna play hard, and
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the never gonna quit. And so many teams in sports
don't have an identity from it's just out there. You
don't know what they do well, you don't know what
their strengths are. So I will give them credit for
that at least having given you some type identity. So
the question becomes, now, if you're the Knicks, who do
you bring in?
Speaker 3 (24:16):
And also how do you work with Kat?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
When you start to look a little deeper, we start
to get the reports the minute they lost that the
team had to have several meetings with Karl Anthony Towns
where they had to have players only meetings going at him.
He's not playing defense, he's not understanding the philosophy what
they're doing, and had to have multiple that What do
you do to to bring some stability to you?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Got your two stars Kat and Jaylen Brunson. Can that work?
Speaker 7 (24:41):
I don't think? I thought. I think we saw the
feeling for those two together. And you know when you
have a Tims coach team, they're hard nose their defensive
You remember what the Knicks were with Harkenstein, right like
they're hard nos defense the team, and when you have
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a seven foot one guy who doesn't like to play
in the polls, who doesn't protect the rim. I think
he had one block shot the whole six games, you know,
which is weird. But I don't I don't think you
know their defensive life. They're built to play defense. They're
built to play defense, and they're built to shoot the
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long ball. Uh, he can do one aspect of that.
So I would be curious to see what his contract is.
He he's under contract for two more years. Correct, then
that'll be a trade. It'd be interesting to see what
the market value for him is and if they're willing
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to move him, and I would. I would personally move them.
I would rather have a rim running big who can
you know, grab rebounds, protect the paint, and who can
catch the lob.
Speaker 6 (25:56):
You know.
Speaker 7 (25:57):
I would take that over what Carl Anthony towns. But yeah,
you take away the three ball, but you can get
wing players to shoot the three. I need you in
the pain.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
Yeah, I'm feeling some calls.
Speaker 1 (26:07):
I'm definitely saying you know, I'm not saying I have
to trade them, but I'm gonna see what's out there.
If somebody wanted to jump in and make that trade.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
So he from the Lions.
Speaker 4 (26:14):
I want to know, Frank Ragnaw right retired, surprise retirement
and banged up, and he's just ready to get out.
Speaker 3 (26:25):
But with all the.
Speaker 4 (26:26):
Stuff going on with the Lions, I mean, I say
the offensive line because they're gonna have two new starters
right on the offensive line, So the offensive line will
be raggedy now without Ragnaw. But the question to you
is the Lions, which I think is gonna the team's
gonna take a step back. Two new coordinators, you know,
and some other stuff and players you know, And now
you're gonna see Dan Gamble have to step forward a
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little bit and take over. Where are you on the
Lions as we go NFC Championship game? Then last year
they took a step back. They didn't even make it back.
They lost before that to a rookie quarter back at home.
Where are you on the Lions and the off season
and you know, changing of the guard.
Speaker 7 (27:07):
I think the lines will be fine. I think they
still have the best quarterback in that division. I think
they still have the best roster in that division. And yeah,
as long as your two tackles are okay. On your
offensive line, you can kind of devise the plan to
protect the two new guys that are in their center
and the guard. So there are some things that you
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can do to shure up that line. As long as
you're piney Seul and other tackles out there are playing
and holding up, I think they'll be fine. You got
an excellent running game, you got you know, top receivers
Jared Goff, and you got Dan Campbell biting kneecaps. And
I understand they lost the majority of all of their coaches,
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but I think the culture that Dan Campbell has built
there is there for the long haul. I think they'll
be okay. I give them about ten eleven wins, not
sure if they go back to the NFC Championship game,
but there are definitely a playoff team in that division.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yeah, that you sound. That's pretty much me. I said.
They go from fifteen to t to maybe twelve and five.
I got them not making the playoffs this year. Remember
I told you easy wings, easy wings? Really yep?
Speaker 7 (28:13):
Oh you gotta you got a wing better?
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Yeah, easy wings?
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Double listen, I'm all right, can I get jump in?
Speaker 4 (28:19):
All right, I'll be I'll be wearing the uh new
Jordans I got from uh easy Kelvins, I got I
got Jordans because he picked the Pistons over the necks
of the playoffs.
Speaker 7 (28:30):
So you got Jordans, though, did you get to like
the sixth green?
Speaker 4 (28:34):
We have some we had a limit on it. Don't
get to get Travis Scott to two hundred dollars eleven.
But I got the new the pat and love, black,
white and red.
Speaker 8 (28:44):
The uh what what number?
Speaker 3 (28:46):
Eleven eleven eleven eleven eleven?
Speaker 7 (28:48):
Okay, all right, okay, So I was happy with that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
That works, and now we got the uh this is
the people are calling it like I like it it
to nas jay z or j Cole and break. The
purists are gonna enjoy this NBA Finals because you got
two really good teams who play really good team ball,
have star players. But it is a star ridden and
it's not big markets. What do you make now that
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we have the final set Pacers and Thunder.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
It's gonna be great. Uh, Like you said, real basketball
purists are gonna love it. Not for the casual fan.
Most casual fans like Marquee players or or Marquee brands.
The OKC and paces are not either of those, and
so I think the ratings won't be as high as one.
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This is Gonnah, it's gonna be bad, but it's gonna
be fun. Basketball number one defense against the number one
offense in terms of the pace and how they like
to get out and run. You gotta remember, the PACs
are exciting. We saw multiple times against the Knicks that
on even on made field goals, they were out getting
done right, uh, you know, for six or seven times.
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And I think that's one of the things that's inexcusable
as you watch a coach prepare his team to see
that happen over and over again. That was one of
the reasons probably we saw the demise of of of Kibbs.
So it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be exciting, but
it's not for the masses in my opinion, that's.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
Gonna be waiting to see. I think again a lot
of people are down on this one. But maybe, maybe,
just maybe, if we get some close games, maybe the
ladder games will start to get better, you know, games three, four, five, six,
if it were there.
Speaker 3 (30:32):
Go that far? All right. If I appreciate you as
always my man appreciate you. No doubt, Yes, thank you,
no doubt. All right? On the way we got Shekel City.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Where's my music, Alex? And we also have shack missing something?
Tell you how Parker the night it was for me?
I have baby oil galore. I need baby oils again.
I need more, Alex, I need baby.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
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Speaker 7 (31:22):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (31:23):
Okay, dj Ali, Alex, good pool. Here it is time
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Speaker 2 (31:34):
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Speaker 3 (31:46):
All right last night, Alex Delvin. Okay, is Tim's one
of the uh one of the picks?
Speaker 1 (31:54):
No?
Speaker 4 (31:55):
That means if I added Tims it would be four
no yesterday because it was three and oh without Tim.
So now I'm at one forty one forty six on
the season. I'm feeling good after three and old night.
And you gotta admit I picked the White Sox last night.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
You remember that?
Speaker 4 (32:11):
And the White Sox picked the and I picked. Uh yeah,
I thought no, So it worked out for me. Uh
I want to say, I should say I picked the Rockies,
wasn't it? I picked the Rockies, the Reds and the Angels.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Remember that? And Angels won in Boston. Welcome back, tout, Yes,
that's right tonight. Let's do it best.
Speaker 7 (32:31):
Bet.
Speaker 4 (32:31):
I got the New York Yankees minus one and a
half runs. They're hosting the Guardians at the Big Ball
Archard in the South Bronx. I got the White Sox
plus one and a half with the Tigers. Tigers win,
but they cover. It's in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
No Tiger scored like twelve runs yesterday, so they'll get eight. No,
you know, I'm gonna mist the White Sox, but sometimes
you know, you score all those runs.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
Wasted them all. Yeah, And then I got the Saturday
to Sunday.
Speaker 4 (33:03):
Red Sox plus one and a half at home taking
on the Angels. So Red Sox plus one and a half,
Chicago White Sox plus one and a half and the
New York Yankees minus one and a half.
Speaker 3 (33:16):
Remember, Calvin, I'm not telling you who.
Speaker 6 (33:20):
To bet.
Speaker 3 (33:22):
Already. You aren't supposed to hear that. I think he misremembers.
Speaker 5 (33:32):
Sorry, I was like, you got to talk about already.
Started looking at your phone again. I wish there was
a button that only went to double when he asked
me a question. There's one that only goes to rob
when he asked me a question.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
But I was like, I was like, remember I working
that you're an engineer extordinaire. I can't who to bet on,
but I'm telling you who I bet on. Okay, speaking
of uh folks around here too, Ricky. I don't know
if he can hear me. I saw him out at
the game on Friday. It was good to see him
on nineteen.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
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Carry Carpenter three, Dan Dickerson from ninety seven to one
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Speaker 1 (34:50):
Shack had something to say about the NBA Finals as
we were just talking about them being all set.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
Now here's what the big fellow had to say.
Speaker 6 (34:57):
You know, the day big market, a small mark. He
has been over social media, will carry it the way
he has played, will carry it. Shay versus Tyres is
a big match up. We've got two young teams running teams,
teams that shoot the other threes. You know, everybody wants
it to be here New York and l A. Well,
apparently those teams ain't good enough for it to be there.
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So you know, this is the way the cookie crumbles.
That's the way it's always been so small market, big market.
We want to see the best teams there and the best.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Players what is he talking about. Well, he was saying
that the best teams could have done most small muggys.
Can you dig it?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Can you dig it?
Speaker 3 (35:38):
No, it's the best part of what I would have
said if he would if I was interviewing.
Speaker 4 (35:42):
Yeah, Jack, you know that San Antonio and New Jersey
was one of the lowest rated. The right, the big
fundamental is a great player, right.
Speaker 7 (35:52):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (35:52):
You know the Lakers? Who is it the for the nets?
The nets and not that only one Spurs were in
two of them nets?
Speaker 11 (36:00):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (36:03):
Yea to the lowest rated spurs and small markets is
the bad That's a that ain't peanut butter and jelly.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
That does not go well together. Shaq. Listen, Shaq? Where
he where he was right on?
Speaker 1 (36:14):
That was that credit these teams for beating these you know,
the Lucas and the lebron took take care of them.
Credit the step that I'll give them credit for that.
Those teams took care of business and got there. They
earned that. However, Shack is wrong. Shack is missing it.
Social media does not carry ratings.
Speaker 2 (36:30):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Social media they're still trying to figure out and quanti
quantize uh what it means. Like Okay, So we got
the views, but did you just watch highlights? Okay, did
you watch the game? Watching just a little clip and
you can't. You can't also can't think about the fact
that these two teams aren't necessarily the most social media
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driven teams.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (36:52):
The SGA is while he is a heck of a
player and arguably the best in the league, say him,
but that Thunder team isn't necessarily warranting folks to who
did you see those highlights? And you got Tyres Halliburton
and the Pacers. They don't also warrant that. So I
think if he's saying it's gonna be good basketball, I'm
with him. If he's saying it's gonna be a dream
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to see a great defense, great offense going at it,
and to see a couple of young stars in the future, Yes,
but he cannot act as if him and Sha Kobe
was not what people wanted to see for four or
five years. You know, that's not act like you and
Penny Hardaway going up against Hakim olajuwon back in ninety
five was not what people wanted to see, Like people
want to see big, mega stars people they know they
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want to see Lebron Cavs team versus the Warriors.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I saw the factor that there are a lot of
big markets who are out who don't want to WI.
If you're a Nigga fan not watching, you're not watching.
If you're a Celtics fan after your team fell out,
probably not. I'm just saying like there will be a
lot of people. If you're the Lakers, you've been out
of watching the playoff of Laker Fair for a long time.
After they got knocked out, you were already pissed off,
you know, And.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
You got California in Texas not being representative, which is
which is a rarity because for years you had at
least Dallas or you had the Spurs. Obviously you had
the Rockets in the nineties, you had the Lakers. You
had the Warriors for so many years. So not having
a California or a Texas team is actually a rarity.
Uh So we're gonna see how this works out. But Shaq, definitely,
I think he is overstating people's interests. I'm like, Shack,
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I think you might be wrong on this one. Big fella.
Speaker 3 (38:29):
What you gotta say about the Dodgers