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May 21, 2025 37 mins

Rob and Kelvin discuss why so many hoops fans have issues with notorious fail merchants like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander and Jalen Brunson, react to the breaking news surrounding the death of Indianapolis Colts owner Jim Irsay, preview Game 1 of the Eastern Conference Finals between the New York Knicks and the Indiana Pacers, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob's nightly bets. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Eddie House swings by to discuss all the biggest headlines around The Association. 

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Speaker 1 (01:16):
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Odd Couple. Let me welcome in my partner. He is
Kelvin Washington.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
That is hilarious. You're doing the last name Alex. What
up man?

Speaker 4 (01:38):
What's happening?

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Happy Hope Day, Happy Wednesday, worship Wednesday, happy through halfway
through the week, feeling good man, ready to do it.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
Let's get to it. Let's welcome in the odd couple crew.
We wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program
without him. Rob g is our producer, Alex is our engine.
The saga is on the social media today, saga uh
filling in for Elijah.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
I like him. I know that's where he was going.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I like Sager?

Speaker 2 (02:07):
What shout to Sager?

Speaker 4 (02:09):
And Uh, I've heard of him? Yes, so you have
heard of sock.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Hold on, all right, hit your own button? Is it racist?

Speaker 4 (02:16):
Why with you?

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Why you don't like?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Why you don't like Indian? No, I'm talking about Elijah.
Why you never heard of him?

Speaker 4 (02:21):
Is all right? That's right there you go. And we
got the NBA playoffs full full, uh, full blown. We
had Game one yesterday or the Western Conference finals. Apparently
a lot of people weren't interested in it. We'll get
to that a little later on. That's that's a sad.

(02:43):
The Nicks and the Pacers people kind of know about this,
even though it's been a long time with the rival.

Speaker 1 (02:49):
You got the Reggie Miller play right there, they just
show at El Duncan's interviewing Patrick Ewing right now, oh Stott, No,
this isn't boring.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
This one that was.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Right on tom ally right, that was right on top
of all right, And of course we did get the
m v P.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
We did, Yes, yeah, I mean obviously no surprise. Uh
one of those.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Again.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
We've had this conversation in football and where you know
the best player, but for whatever reasons you know best.
It's not the best player, it's who had the best
season or the best moment or was more valuable to
their team. And so SGA was taking home the award.
Kind of knew that, and you know my theory. It
is just I think people get fatigued. I've been saying
it that just right or wrong.

Speaker 4 (03:36):
I think it's I just think that's dumb.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
I'm not arguing, like I get your primise somebody.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
That's not what the league, that's not what the award is.
Barry Bonds won seven m vps. I just like like
he was the best player. Like it would be dumb
for a writer to sit there watch a guy hit
all these home runs. Otani's won a couple out now right,
three of the last four whatever it was judges won
two of the three or whatever. It is, like you're

(04:02):
gonna sit there and go, no, we're gonna pick somebody up.
I just I think I know that, I get what
you're saying. I do wonder because I've asked you this before.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
If baseball only had one MVP, I wonder if it
will be different, meaning not the league you're al, you're
n L meaning when Barry Bonds have won seven just
straight up MVP.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
I think so his numbers were so great. I just
don't know how you would have not voted for him. Yeah,
that would be my only thing. Because he didn't win
every year. I mean, he played for fifteen years. So
you know what I'm.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Saying, Like, I'm wondering, you know what I mean, like, well,
he's got enough, he's got four, say it was four
at that point.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
But that that that whole idea. The premise is you're
not supposed to take anything. It's like going to court,
like if you have some other stuff, they don't bring
that one day exactly that. I like that. It doesn't
even make sense. That's what otherwise you would just well,
we don't need a trial. He committed a crime four
years ago so he's just what he does. He gets trying.

(04:56):
So yeah, I know, but I just think people getting there.
Ah yokis had enough. Lamar's had enough. He'll get another
one at some point. Give this one to Josh, you know,
I just think Pete, through human nature, people do that.
But shot out to SGA, congrats to him. So we
got we're talking about the game, of course, and last night,

(05:18):
and one of the things that come away. Of course,
we already know Oklahoma City Thunder the defense is great,
one of the better defensive teams in quite some time.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
We knew their death. They go real deep with a
bunch of different guys.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
We knew that. But the other thing that people take
away is SGA.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
You and I got to see about the first half
before our show ended, and I was like, oh, he's
two for thirteen. He'll come back second half. He had
twenty three in game seven. You know he's done that before.
He's had slower halves, and part of that is because
he gets to the free throw line, and that, along
with some other players, starts the conversation that we're having.
Antonio Daniels joined our show of unethical basketball and the

(05:55):
idea where guys are baiting where guys are drawing files,
where they're doing whatever they can to draw files and
get on that offen to get on the free throw line.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
And we saw a bunch of that last night.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
And I think what we're seeing rob because guys are
on these massive platforms now, not just a random Tuesday
night in February where you know, you know, if you're
in your local market, you're not watching them. I think
we're seeing these guys start to act more frequently because
we're seeing big games. You're seeing every game for SGA,
You're seeing every game for Jalen Brunson, so much so

(06:29):
that to me, SGA might as well be SAG is
in SAG because the boy is acting out here in
these streets, drawing files, falling all over the place. And
when now we see it because it's big time, prime
time games. And during the first round I was talking
about Jalen Brunson against the Pistons, I was like, man,

(06:50):
he really really bait some files. He really really knows
how to get under the skin and throw a flail
his arms up to.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
The tune of being Broadway.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Brunson out there in New York on tone winning Tony
Awards doing plays and acting. So I think that's one
of the things that's happening right now to these younger
players who are finally on these big stages, is that
everybody is starting to see them and you go, oh,
those are his tendencies. Oh, that's what he does, and
that happens with anybody. Lebron was Lebron. But then people, oh,
he's a flop Luka Doncinz, oh, and he's really good.

(07:19):
But then you start to see him now in playoff series,
you go, oh, man, Luca cries to the rep.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
He does that, and you kind of get exposed.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
The more we see you, the more we witness it,
the more the stakes are hiring these games, and people
start to call you out about those types of things,
and SGA that becomes the conversation. Is a good basketball meeting.
He's drawing files, he knows how to get to the
free throw line, shot it and falling. I'm two for thirteen.
Let me get some easy buckets at the free throw line.
And I think we've always had people who are skilled

(07:46):
at doing that. So now I think we're seeing Broadway
Jalen Brunson sack card holding SGA, and we saw James
Harden and we saw them again Lebron people called him
la flop, and I'm just starting to see now that
they're on these big platforms, Rob, I think people are
seeing it more prevalent with these two stars in Jalen
and Sga.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I just think it's always been a part of the NBA.
It's not new. I think people have guys have been
doing this forever. These aren't the first guys who are
doing it. It's the officials who are allowing them to
do it, and we've seen it. They let James Harden
do it during the regular season and then they don't
allow him to do it in the postseason, and that's
where he's had bad postseasons where he's used to getting

(08:27):
fifteen free throws and now all of a sudden, they're
not calling it, and you got to be consistent, and
you're also it takes away from the game and people
get frustrated. And I got a million Texas from friends
with like, I just can't even watch this. It's just
it's awful, and what you have is to me, it

(08:50):
reminds me of when I got turned off to boxing
because of Floyd Mayweather and his style, Like it wasn't entertaining.
That's not entertaining to see guys flop or lebron or
fall out or act like they got contact and do
all that, and it's just frustrating. And all they need
to do is for officials to stop it, you know,

(09:13):
not allow that, stop making those calls. And then I
think maybe people, you know, you have to figure it out,
and shouldn't it be about basketball. And I'm not saying
that guys don't get fouled. There are guys who get
fouled in the NBA, and they deserve to be rewarded
for being fouled. But watching this stuff, it's embarrassing to

(09:35):
watch the video afterwards and just see, you know, what
SGA is doing. It just it looks phony, It looks fake,
it looks non entertaining, And I think that's what you
want that after a while people will look at you
and be like, ah, you know, like yeah, okay, he's

(09:55):
pretty good, but my god, all of that it's it's
it becomes a thing where you could hold it against
them as far as liking them because their game is
not attractive or it's not you know, wow, look at
the shot he made or whatever. This fouls. No one's
saying that it shouldn't be. And we saw this in
the NBA when Dwayne Wade won the finals WIX with Miami,

(10:20):
where he had like one hundred more free throws than
the Dallas Mavericks or whatever it was. It was awful
to watch, and to this day, if you ask most people,
most people remember that because it was so out of character.
You couldn't touch, you couldn't breathe on Dwayne Wade, and
whatever the edict was from the league at that point
was just utterly ridiculous. And I know he won that championship,

(10:43):
but there are people who will say it's questionable because
if you remember, Dallas won the first two games of
that series, and then Dwayne Wade went to the free
throw line a million times in that game and it
just became hard to watch or to enjoy. And that's
what I think. You got to be careful that you
don't want people to discount you or think to your

(11:04):
to themselves, this is just phony and he's not, you know,
he's just looking for calls and flopping around and making
contact and the referees are bailing them out. I mean,
you get that with Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs. There's
a lot of people now who just the game is rigged.
There's always something every time with Patrick Mahomes, there's always

(11:25):
some call or something where they bail them out. He
throws a pick, but they call some some some penalty
or whatever, you know, yeah, or something to bail out
Patrick Mahomes in different situations. So it could work against you.
I mean, you get you might get your free throws,
but you could also get people to turn off to
you as a you know, as a as a player.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
I think And for me, if I'm Anthony Edwards who
only shot thirteen shots, which is unacceptable for the best
player and superstar on a team. And I don't know
what it is about Anthony Edwards in game ones he's
this is that was his fourth game one of a
round or where he shoots only he only gets like
twenty points a game where he you know, averages more
than that he does he takes less shots. So I

(12:08):
don't know if he's just like one of those guys
I just get a slow start. And I do believe
the defense of the Thunder threw him off. And one
thing I'll give him credit for it, like he's historically said,
oh yeah, that defense threw me off. I hold, I
wasn't prepared for that, or I didn't know they were
gonna put four guys here, this, that, and the other.
So I absolutely believe he got tripped up with that
thunder defense. My point with him, though, is you got
to do the same thing. You got to say, all right,

(12:30):
he's their star. Obviously we all knew he's gonna be
the MVP. But let me let me go start getting
to the hole. Let me start putting the pressure on
the refs to call it the same way for both teams.
You know, we kind of saw that earlier in the
playoffs with the Knicks and the Pistons, where the Pistons
were the Knicks were getting files, but they weren't getting
shooting files, and the Pistons were getting all the shooting
files because they were getting to the hole more. And

(12:51):
then the Knicks said, well, let's make sure we get
to the hole more as well and get some of
these calls. So I think Aunt Edwards to me, I
would say it's incumbent upon him. Hey, all right, here's
a star, young star in this Lee Sga or aka
sag Sad Card holder, then I'm gonna need to start
getting the deadline as well. So I would expect in
game two Anthony Networks to put his head down and

(13:11):
get to the basket a little bit more and put
the onus on the reft to make sure these calls
are going even superstar for superstar all.

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Shay sga to the new MVP. Is one of those

(14:40):
folks who draws a bunch of files. Also, I was
brought up Jalen Brunton as well. Some people say it's
part of the game. Some people annoy it by an
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Speaker 4 (14:47):
Who we got Kevin in Culver City. You're on the
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up?

Speaker 2 (14:53):
What's up? Kevin? All the time?

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Man?

Speaker 6 (14:56):
It's hot out here in La today.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
One more today, one more you know, I sit next
to meter olegs every day. One more day, she said,
and then they'll cool down. Tomorrow's gonna hide will cool down.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Hey, everybody talks about Stephen Curry changing the game, changing
the NBA. The one guy who I think needs to
get more credit for changing the NBA is Body DeVos.
He's a guy who was the flopper flop king, who
could score against Shack and he would flop because he
would bring Shack into him. So those guys are kids,
little kids watching the games like James Harden and shot
Go Southender, they learned from from Boddy. You know the

(15:28):
O g A flopping and now everybody in the league
does this Woma flopping aau where they lead and they
had the guy coming to then when Kobe was playing,
even MJ they weren't flopping because you weren't getting those calls.
But these guys coming up today, they just they learn
to flopping leaning.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
And get these no but you just said it's it's
still about the officials. It's about the officials. Don't call those.
If you stop calling those, they will have to play basketball.
Theyn't have to get buckets. They'll have stop calling them.
It's just so simple. It's not even stop calling them.
And if you stop the.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
Game, it it really does the entertainment value.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
That's why it just it doesn't make for appealing basketball.
It's not entertaining at all. Nobody. I don't want to
pay to see free throws. I hate to break it
to you, that's not.

Speaker 2 (16:15):
What I don't want to pay becus they free right.

Speaker 1 (16:17):
And you know they also remember they change the flopping too,
like the when they used to flop. But they you
know now you can get the file if you're the
offensive defender of the offensive player flopping and stuff. So
you know they they've made changes when they needed to.
So there's something they can keep an eye on.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Andre and Massachusetts. You're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio. What's up, Drake, Hey, how you doing.

Speaker 6 (16:38):
Thanks for taking a call.

Speaker 7 (16:39):
Listen, Rob, You're spot on. It's the officials. You're not
talking about unethical basketball. We're talking about unethical officiating. And
that's the root of this. And that's the bottom line.
You know, slip an official that cannot decipher between this
floppery right oh the basketball game. You know, they don't
deserve to be out there, particularly in the biggest moments.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Now.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
I do have to say the NBA and playoff basketball,
generally speaking, that is the highest quality of officiating.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
But when you allow for.

Speaker 7 (17:07):
You know, these guards to throw their body left, right
and sideways. Okay, and you're you're drawn in by that.
You know that's an officiating error. It has nothing to
do with the players. The player has the right to
try to gain every single advantage that they can rob.
You're coming from the baseball tradition. If an umpire cannot
decipher a slider, he does not belong behind the plate.
That is the long and the short of it. So

(17:29):
this issue, the NBA has done a lot of things,
you know, revising the rules of finding the players. In
my view, the fine should be for the official, and
the criticism and the evaluation should be for the officials,
because as a basketball official, I can tell you it's
in the rules. It's called incidental contact. Contact that doesn't
affect the normal offensive or defensive movement. It's incidental that
means play on. It's one of our principal rules and

(17:51):
the discussion official, step your game out or we need
to get somebody else that can get out there and
do the job.

Speaker 8 (17:56):
Thanks taking a call, no doubt.

Speaker 4 (17:57):
Thank you. Drew in New Jersey. You're in the eye
couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Drew?

Speaker 5 (18:02):
Hey, I agree the The flopping is definitely bad. But
I have a hot take for handchecking. I know handtracking
is a big thing, right. Do players and wing defenders
in this generation get hurt by not having the ability
to handcheck? For example, does Draymond Green have more defensive

(18:24):
players of the years if he's able to handschrack?

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Probably because you could put a hand on somebody. You
can't touch anybody. I don't know defensively how some of
these athletes, how you're going to stop them if you can't.
Michael Jordan play with a hand in his back, on elbow,
bent arm on his back. I mean that that's how
they play.

Speaker 8 (18:44):
That was so normal.

Speaker 5 (18:45):
Hurt Lebron has That hurt Lebron's ability not to have
a play year because I don't think offensively it would
do much because handchecking allows you to guide right right.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
If you got if I got my hand on your back,
on your back, I could push you which way old enough.

Speaker 5 (19:00):
To I don't think it would affect him. I don't
think it would affect Lebron because specifically, I don't think
that there's somebody strong enough to guard him. But I
think that's a difference.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
That's a difference to have a little bit though, of
pushback or restraint and none like you. No, I'm not
talking about like stopping him or whatever, but it's just
making it harder. Yes, that's just like a degree. I'm
not touching him makes it easy for Lebron, is what
I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Like maybe just maybe yeah, I remember, I remember, I'm
old enough to remember playing basketball in high school and
you were allowed to put the little forearm on him.

Speaker 4 (19:40):
And then yeah, and it just helps keep you in front.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
You can kind of feel where they're going and kind
of you can help. It's your a little bit of saying,
I can kind of dictate this a little bit, and
it absolutely makes just enough difference that you can maybe alter,
you know, make a guy going off his spot just
a little bit a time.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
Two, Eddie House get ready to come up with us
in just a bit.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
We'll talk to him about what we just saw in
game one Western Conference Finals of what we expect today
Eastern Conference Finals. All right, now, it is what's training
Manzi Blanos.

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Speaker 1 (20:24):
All right, we got Eddie House our guests now, NBA Champion,
Emmy Winner, NBC Sports Boss, and Fox Sports Radio NBA
analyst Eddie House underscore fifty if you want to highl
at him on X What's up Eddie?

Speaker 3 (20:36):
What up?

Speaker 2 (20:37):
Yo?

Speaker 7 (20:37):
Yo?

Speaker 8 (20:37):
What's happening?

Speaker 4 (20:38):
It was good, man, sound good even though the Celtics
didn't move on you.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
All right, Yeah, I'm fine. The paycheck didn't stop.

Speaker 4 (20:45):
Okay, I'm just asking.

Speaker 8 (20:48):
I mean, I was definitely upset and it didn't feel
good about it. I thought we was gonna be on
the duck boats again celebrating going back to back. But
you know, things happened, and you know, last year we
were a beneficiary of you know, guys being injured and hurt,

(21:08):
and this year, you know, we were on the other
side of that.

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Eddie Sga of course won the MVP. That's seven years
in a row a non American has won the MVP.
What do you make of that? Does that mean anything
to you or not?

Speaker 6 (21:23):
No?

Speaker 8 (21:23):
I don't mean, I don't mean anything to me. Man.
We want the gold medal, So they'll let you know
right there that we got the most talented, the best
basketball players across the world. Now, they might have one here,
they might have one sprinkled there, But when you collectively
put us together, we have the best basketball players on
the planet Earth.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
But you got to admit seven years in a row,
it's kind of mind boggling. And when you think about
the future, Wimby and some of the other people, it
might be a minute before an American born player wins.

Speaker 8 (21:51):
But okay, MVP.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
But well, I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
I like just the idea of it. I get what
you're saying, But seven years in a row, it is
really a trend with with these other younger non American players,
you know what I mean on the horizon.

Speaker 8 (22:09):
Start with where Jokis winning three of them, uh s
g A winning this one, Embiid and Jannis. Okay, so
that's that's what I'm saying, Like, come on, those are
those are?

Speaker 1 (22:21):
So?

Speaker 4 (22:21):
Okay? Who was the next American do you think would
win an m v P S Well? Probably my best better.

Speaker 8 (22:26):
Question, Okay, that is that is a better question. You know,
I'm a reporter, you know that that is a better question.
The next American will probably be I.

Speaker 4 (22:35):
Was I'm gonna say he's not born yet, But what's
your answer.

Speaker 8 (22:39):
No, I'm gonna say he's born.

Speaker 6 (22:41):
I was.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
I would probably have to say I would lean towards
Anthony Edwards if he gets his team to be a
top seed and he's up there in scoring average, because
everybody's named by scoring, and so I would say Anthony
Edwards probably like the next one. I would have said
Jason Tate them but what the Achilles injury and the

(23:02):
things that went on with that, and not sure did
he even play next year. So I would say that,
you know, it's a good shot to Anthony Edwards, especially
if they don't win. They don't win or get to
the finals. You know, this would be the second time
of getting bounced out in the conference finals. That's when
you go back to the lab and you know, being
a youngster, just understanding what it really really really takes

(23:25):
to win and what you have to do and everything
that you have to put into it, I would say
Anthony Edwards.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Yeah, I think that's kind of the the answer. And
then you mentioned Tatum I think obviously being one and
then maybe in a couple of years, you know, two,
three years, Kate Cunningham, just the way he plays he's
gonna have those stats with killer, Yeah, he's I think
Kate could be one of those to keep an eye
on too.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
That's say what Anthony evers.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Since you brought him up, they obviously get beat down
the second half of that game last night. Was that
just maybe a little russ they had a little too
much rest. Was this just hey, okay See was on
fire coming off that game seven? What'd you make of
that first game in the Western Conference Finals?

Speaker 8 (24:04):
Exactly what I've said about okay See the whole season,
especially going into the postseason, is that, uh, those those
defensive numbers don't lie. When you're number one in every
statistical category on the defensive side of the ball, that's
the one thing that travels. So their their shot making,

(24:24):
their ability to get easy baskets didn't travel. In the
first half, their defense still was there, they was only
down four. But then in the second half, the defense
was still there, and then the shot making came to
fruition and started playing and it started happening. And to me,
those are the things you got to look at. It's
not a It's not a surprise to me because I

(24:48):
was on the team that would when we won the championship.
We were the best defensive team, you know, top to bottom,
and those are the things that you can always hang
your hat on when your SHOT's not going down with Damn,
they ain't gonna get a shot either. They're super handsy,
they're fast, they're young, they're quick, and it seems like
they're able to forget whatever possession happened before and get

(25:10):
right back into the next possession defensively. And I think
that's like the best attribute that Okay See has and
that's what it's going to propel them to possibly win
a championship.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Eddie, I'm going to ask you want to talk about
this later on in the show, but I want to
get your take on just Knick fans. I get it,
they haven't won a championship since nineteen seventy three. A
lot of these fans it's been twenty five years, nineteen
ninety nine since the Knicks, you know, went to the
finals or whatever, and these are all these young kids
in the street are going crazy.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
Man.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
But is it a little over the top, like almost sickening,
like like they haven't won anything, but they've made it
like they've won a championship or does it make sense
to you.

Speaker 8 (25:55):
No, it doesn't make any sense. They're obnoxious, not it.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Feels like it's obnoxious. And I'm from New York, but.

Speaker 8 (26:02):
I'm not from New York. I played for the Knicks,
but I had a cup of coffee over there.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
I was Did you have a cup of coffee in
the sweet role? How long were you there?

Speaker 8 (26:11):
I was Therefore, I got traded at the trade deadline,
so I was only there from February to April when
we didn't.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Make the playoffs.

Speaker 8 (26:18):
But the thing is, I think it's up NOXI that
they're they're they're they're out of hand, you know. And
it's it's hard to act like you've been there before
if you've never been there before. Okay, uh we could
all And I'm a liking it as this when you
lost your virginity, you act like you was there before,

(26:39):
but you never was there before until you was there before.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Yeh, you know that. I'm waiting on the book for Eddie,
you know.

Speaker 8 (26:48):
You know what I mean. But in all sincerity and
U seriousness, I just think they're just a little over
the top. They're just super gassed. I know they beat
the Celtics, they have opportunity. Well, the subject had the
opportunity and think about three out of the four games
was up double figures late in the game. Blew those games,
and you got to give the Knicks all of the credit.

(27:10):
I'm not gonna sit here and act like, oh yeah,
it was all because the Celtics blew it. Celtics blew it,
but the Knicks took it, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
And now you got to even though the Celtics, right
we're doing that, the Knicks had to make shots to
stay in the game. I mean, there's a lot of
other stuff, right.

Speaker 8 (27:25):
Yeah, So I gotta give the Knicks credit. And right
now they're they're playing great basketball. We're gonna see the
night what's gonna happen because I believe this is not
gonna be as easy of a series that everybody that
is a Knicks fan is thinking that it's gonna hap.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
I'm with you on that.

Speaker 8 (27:43):
I told about the I said that about the Calves series.
I said, it's not gonna be as easy to everybody.
I think this is gonna be. So we're gonna see. Man,
I just want to see good basketball. At the end
of the day. You know, my team, I don't got
a dog in a fight. I ain't got a horse
in the race. I just want to see good basketball,
see great playoff basketball. And to me, the nick fans,

(28:07):
they're just a little bit over zealous and they are
just a little bit over the top, and just so
what they need to do is bus blow the dust
off their rings nineteen seventy three.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, do something. We pick out their hair, afros.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Those rings are probably worth three hundred dollars.

Speaker 8 (28:25):
I'm just saying it's probably copper. By the way, do it?

Speaker 7 (28:31):
Let me.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yeah, that got them brass rings, Eddie. Let me ask
you this real quick.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
Staying there for a minute, and that matchup Tyrese Haliburn,
you know somebody had to give. If you take a poll,
somebody has to get voted most overrated. So it was
him a fourteen percent of the players in at that
athletic pole.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
But do you think a part of it is because.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
He's one of the few remaining kind of traditional old
old school moved the ball, pacing the game point guards,
kind of a Jason kid like, where I can score,
but I'm changing the pacing, I'm moving the ball. Does
he get a little do people kind of misconstrue his
game in that regard expecting him to be a big
time scorer like everyone nowadays.

Speaker 8 (29:09):
But I would feel like that that would be dumb
if we're if we're thinking like in that light right there,
like you got to just score the basketball, because Anthony
Edwards didn' scored last night, but we still think he's
a superstar. Tyler's halliburtons that have eighteen points with fifteen assists,
and everybody just like snub their nose at that, like whatever, Okay, no,

(29:30):
but that's big time basketball right there, Like that's what
your point guard is supposed to do. So when I
look at it in this light, he might just be
getting hated on, you know, he might be getting hated
on from his peers just on the fact that he
went to the Olympics, you know what I'm saying, and
got that gold medal. It really didn't play and so
everybody's like, oh, he alrated because he didn't even play

(29:51):
in the Olympics, right everybody knows Jason Tatum is Jason
who Jake Tatum is all pro you know, for the
last three years or something like that. So I just
think that people overlook and misunderstand the value of a
ty Tyree Halliburton. A guy that can take over a
game is score baskets, but also take over the game
by setting other guys up. And that's why that I

(30:13):
think that is not going to be that easy, because
you're gonna have to pay attention to him, and if
you don't, he's able to score. But if you start
putting too much attention to him, he's gonna be able
to get other guys off, and then they start getting off,
the others start playing well, you know, the Nie Smiths,
the Turners and all of those guys, and you just

(30:33):
it could get ugly fast.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
I think with both of you then in this one,
I actually think, yeah, the Pacers are. They're in a
great place right now, the way they're moving to ball
to that offense. Addie Man, appreciate you. Thank you as always, brother.

Speaker 8 (30:46):
Right on, man, you guys have a good one man,
take care of enjoy today.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
All right.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
We got breaking news, breaking news from Fox Sports.

Speaker 9 (30:57):
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Jim Ers, passed away peacefully in his sleep this afternoon.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
He was sixty five years old.

Speaker 9 (31:06):
They've made a statement, I'll have all the great things
he's done and how long he's been a part of
the NFL community up but no real further details on
their statement as to what happened, but sixty five years
old passed away in his sleep.

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Speaker 1 (31:41):
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Speaker 2 (31:52):
Right now it is time for Sheko City.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Welcome two.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parkers, Daly Dix
against the spread.

Speaker 4 (32:08):
All right, here we go one and two last night
and total now one thirty two and one thirty four.
So one in two, one thirty two, one thirty four.
Tonight I got the Indiana Pacers plus four and a
half at Madison Square Garden against the Knicks in Game
one that should be starting in about fifteen minutes or so. Also,

(32:29):
I got the Mets plus one and a half runs
against the Red Sox. They just do they need some
runs and a game. They need to win a game,
like it's really bad. I think that the Mets have
scored fourteen runs in their last eight games. Yeah, that's
not gonna cut it. You're not gonna win a lot
of games. And the Atlanta Braids minus one and a half.
That's taking on the Nationals in Washington. So again, Braids

(32:53):
minus one and a half runs, the Mets plus one
and a half runs, and the Pacers plus four and
a half. The Knicks might win the game, but it'll
be close. And if the Pacers, oh, I'm gonna say
that the Pacers win. All the expectations of the Knicks
and everything, sometimes that could work against you. Where the
Pacers go in where we're not expected to win and

(33:16):
we don't have as much pressure playing in front of
Madison Square guard and the expectations of trying to get
to the finals.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Which is funny to me because just as I've been watching,
I think they've been playing a better brand of basketball,
Like I think the Knicks have won some games, but
you've even mentioned it, like we haven't really seen have we.

Speaker 2 (33:35):
Seen the best version of the Nicks?

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I don't know, Like you know, obviously they got the
big win in the elimination game with the Celtics.

Speaker 4 (33:42):
But that was such a nothing game because Tatum and
all that, so it was like like, I don't know,
like that was a great game, and that's the way
you want to close it out, but are you winning
by fifty points or forty points and anymore going forward?
And they do have some good games left in them
because they haven't had.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
That's that's what I'm like. I know they're probably like,
we still haven't had that one now. I mean where
they just look good and play well.

Speaker 4 (34:04):
If they do that, they have a chance to go
to the finals, you know what I mean, if they
can put together maybe two good games or something.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
And the only thing that I also wonder too, rob
at some point, does Thibodeau's burning you out? I'm only
playing six and a half guys now, you got up
to about seven now because Mitchell's getting some Robinson starting
to get some minutes. I only play seven guys. We've
seen that burn them out, Remember Josh Hart. Guys starting
to cramp up, they get hurt.

Speaker 4 (34:30):
They tied the lost last year in seven games to
the Pacers in the second round last year, and the
Pacers wound up going to the Eastern Eastern Conference Finals
and they won game seven at Madison Square Guard and
I get it, Jalen Brunson was hurt. But the Pacers
did win there at the Garden, and I must win.
I mean, I think they were down three to two,
went to Indiana, tied the series and forced the game seven,

(34:51):
and then won at Madison Square Garden.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
So I think that's gonna be something I'm watching. Is
the pace? No pun intended? Maybe pun intended. The Pacers
played with against the Knicks, who played against a slower
down version of the Pistons, you know, a little more
grinded out.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Both of them like to slow it down and grind
it out.

Speaker 1 (35:09):
And then they had to, you know, the way that
the Celtics were just chucking up threes. They didn't make
them run around a lot, and the Pacers are gonna
make them.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
They're gonna move.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
We talked about earlier Readyhouse Tyre's holler burn is gonna
change the pace.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
He's gonna move the ball.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
He's gonna get hockey assists if you will, or it
doesn't have to be the direct pass, but I'm gonna
move it, move it, and the Knicks are gonna be playing.
You know, you're gonna have guys playing forty forty two
forty four minutes running around chasing guys, and I just
think that'll be interesting to see for me as a
series goes along those legs of the Knicks, because six
or seven guys, big time minutes, and especially usage rate

(35:43):
of Brunson where he is extremely baal dominity because he
has to be kind of geinst the offense going.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
It'll be interesting to see. But it just should be
a good one.

Speaker 5 (35:51):
Man.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
I'm actually looking forward to a little flashback to the
ninety I think they met what six times between ninety
three and two thousand, So you know, we're gonna be
good to see a whole bunch of people there. You know,
I think Reggie Miller's on the car. You got Patrick
Ewing obviously, so it'll be fun. It should be fun
at least.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
Yeah. Well, I mean I was there for the Reggie
Miller game. I was covering the Knicks. I was working
in New York during that That was one of those
moments when I think about all the things that I
saw over these last thirty nine years covering sports, that
ranks in there just one of those moments. And maybe
I need to put down the top twenty of all
these games and stuff that I've you know, seen and

(36:27):
covered and whatnot and been a part of as a writer.
But some of them are incredible.

Speaker 2 (36:32):
Did you already have your headline regularly right, Nicks? No?

Speaker 8 (36:35):
No?

Speaker 4 (36:35):
No?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Wait? What no?

Speaker 4 (36:37):
On the column for Newsday. I wasn't ready for that.
I really thought. I was shocked.

Speaker 2 (36:42):
I could have maddened. It was so fast.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
It was three all right, it got a little closer
still three What just happened in three seconds? And then
he knocks down two more free throws, gets eight points
and nine seconds or whatever it was. Yeah, that was crazy, Rob.
To push or not to push, that is the question.
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