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Speaker 4 (01:28):
Sweetie Beaty, Yes, sir, it is the Odd Couple on
this Magic City Monday a lot to get to.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Let me first welcome in my co host.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Calvin Washington, my brother. What's up man, doing good, doing good,
excited man, and we'll get the show rolling. Good weekend.
Hopefully your weekend was great as well. You know, obviously
we got some some NBA Finals action and I know
we ain't gonna talk about it, but you have some
good French open actions. So it's all good. Man, had
(02:01):
a good weekend. Ready to rock French toast? What did
you say? A fresh toast is bomb? By the way,
give me French toast over waffles any day. You and
you you're down with that?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, I would agree with that. Waffles are Okay, I'm
not that big on them. Pancakes are the best, right
rob G. I'm just so boy, oh boy. What I'm
just saying, Yeah, we know that.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
You know that. Rob G knows that. We know what.
Unfortunately I had to witness your teeth clink with his
fortes okay clink when he fed you with clink.
Speaker 5 (02:29):
Clink, feeding people getting fed.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That never happened.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
You getting buns and you're getting fed in a matter
of twelve hours, and that mappen. He ate rob G's
buns and cakes.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Wow, not married. Ain't no way you believe you don't.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
You don't have to explain it what you are. I
know it's June, Mary, Mary, I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
I don't hear rob G saying I'm wrong. Rob G's
away from the Mikeys. Okay, he's working. It's called a
radio show. Is happily married with two beautiful daughters. And
the last thing he wants is.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
I mean, but when you were getting fat, he didn't
say anything when he was feeding you.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
I don't know how Mary, he fed him so naturally.
To day I usually put a little Pepperka in mine.
It was just feed and robbed the whole time.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Did you have aspects of your old wife?
Speaker 3 (03:23):
No, I did not know.
Speaker 4 (03:24):
She used to wash my hair, though I told you
that that was one of the one of.
Speaker 5 (03:28):
The best that's didn't stop.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
That was one of the best qualities of my wife.
I think that's sensual. I think that. I think it
also tells you like you care about somebody. You know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (03:39):
Your love language is acts of service, right.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Well, I mean, did you have an afro?
Speaker 3 (03:45):
No?
Speaker 4 (03:46):
But I just liked her to like scratch my scalp,
and you know what I mean, put some hot oil
on it and just just pamper me, baby man.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
And then you left her. See what I mean, Well
that's greedy, you know.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
Well it was the I didn't get the full BackRub,
so there's a deal breaker.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
She was right, she was right there. And then all right,
all right, all right, anyway, we got a show to do.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All right, let's welcome into the Odd Couple crew. We
wouldn't be able to do this fine radio program without them.
Rob g of course, Sir Martin Weiss is at the
anchor desk, will keep us updated throughout the program. Elijah
is our social media Google you know who.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
He is the best in the business.
Speaker 4 (04:31):
And of course on the ones and twos, Why You
Bug and no doubt Mary Mary so Big Show obviously
the Thunder yesterday in a lackluster game overall, but anyway,
they tied the series one one.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I just mean kind of.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
A blowout, you know what I mean, like that they
you know, in the second quarter, they they they did
what they needed to do, and it just it wasn't
great to watch. I'm just saying, period not. It doesn't
matter who you're pulling for, you hope for it to
be just more of a little I'm a little more competitive,
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
But anyway, obviously.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Shay continues to do what he's done all year and accolades,
and of course he won the MVP, and you know,
the whole conversation is about him, and you keep hearing it.
They got to come up with some storyline, right, So
the storyline is, is here a superstar?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
You know? And again time and time again. Superstar is not.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
Just because you were the MVP or just because you
won something, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (05:41):
Like that is not what determines whether or not to me,
you're a superstar. It's bigger than that. And it's not
just on the field.
Speaker 4 (05:51):
It's not just or on the court, you know what
I mean, like just putting up numbers, and it's not
just winning, because there are guys to me who have
not one who are clearly superstars. And the biggest one
to me, and I say, is Aaron Judge. Is there
any doubt in your mind, Kelvin that he's a superstar? No,
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And he hasn't won a World Series, and he's had
his failures in the postseason, and he dropped the easiest
fly ball in center field and probably the history of mankind.
Lamar Jackson has not won yet. People are disappointed at
him in the postseason, But guess what.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
He's a superstar. Do you doubt it?
Speaker 1 (06:34):
No, no, no, no, And in fact so much so
that everybody's clamoring from the wing right.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
Because he's that good and he moves the needle.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
So when you talk about superstars, that's why I think
people get caught up with the prisoner of them moment. Oh,
he won the MVP's about to win, has a chance
to win a championship and whatnot, And that doesn't mean
he's a great player. And this is gonna you know,
if they do win it, which I still don't think
they but if he wins, it'll it'll be a hell
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of a year all the way around. For all the
stuff that he's done, First Team All NBA. I mean,
there's nothing else you could ask for him to do. Still,
I don't think that elevates him to that plateau. I
think a superstar has only a handful of superstars in sports,
not everybody. Michael Jordan is a superstar to.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
This very day.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Yeah, you know, you know, I'm just saying to this
day and he hasn't played in fifteen or twenty years,
Am I right? Like he's a superstar? He is, so
that's that's my No disrespect to Shay. Everybody's not a superstar.
Him winning a NBA championship will not elevate him to that.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Did he have a great years? They're a great player,
without question, superstar.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
No, here's the thing superstar I think. And this is
where those people you're referring to, you're maybe fifteen feet
away from one of them. That's Robb GI and I
had to school Robb G today earlier on our car
Robb I had to tell him, you're mixing up a
heck of a basketball player. You could argue the best
basketball player, maybe the second basketball player in the entire world,
(08:09):
that would be SGA. He is absolutely that. But to me,
when you're talking superstar, there are distinct factors, features, attributes
that have to happen to give you that. He's not
quite there yet. He has the potential to maybe be there,
but as we sit here currently, he's not. And one
of the things is we know he's an amazing score. Right,
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I've been telling y'all all series long. Just put him
down for thirty five points instantly. Just put him down
thirty five points. He's gonna do that. And he's setting
records too. I mean, you're looking at the numbers in
ten playoff games, he's averaging basically thirty three seven in
a couple of steals as well on dagnar fifty to
forty ninety, almost eighty seven percent from the free throw,
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thirty nine from three, but almost fifty forty ninety. This
is crazy plus minus plus eighty three. So the quality
of basketball player is super but the level of stardom,
he's not superstar super nova. He's not there yet. There's
and there's still work to be done in that regard,
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and that's what I think the difference is. You could
argue there are a handful of people who haven't won
and were superstars. Charles Barkley was a superstar even though
he hadn't won current NBA. I believe you, Luka Datchets
is a superstar even though he hasn't won. So there's
an eyeball test, there's storylines, there's narratives mixed in with
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the quality of your play, your game that makes you
a superstar and SGA he is saving basketball in the
sense that you don't have to shoot a bunch of
threes in order to win. But the style in which
mid ranging slithering to the whole and knocking down free
throws to the tune of eleven or twelve last night,
it's just not superstar stuff quite yet. You know, doesn't
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have a gang of commercial, doesn't have a signature move,
per se these things. But it's okay. We have to
be okay with consistency and the boring of consistency sometimes
meaning he's just very good every night, plays both ends
of the floors, and that's okay too. But he's not
a superstar yet.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
Can I give you one? I'll give you one.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
Tim Duncan, who was a free throw miss away from
being six and zero in the finals, just like Michael Jordan. Okay,
and he won the Superstar. As great as he was,
he won the Superstar. Most people probably couldn't even don't
remember anything he said or did you know what I mean?
Outside of being the big fundamentals and playing basketball like
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that doesn't make you a superstar, right you would say,
he's five for six in the finals, what.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
Do you mean? Yeah, winnings and everything. I mean, it
is not not in the Superstar game, Alan Iverson never
wont to ring it. I don't know if the superstar
gets much bigger than him. I mean, Alan Iverson was
one of one. He was that guy that he never won.
So Shay Gilders Alexander, however, would be sitting next to
if he was our guest, saying I could care less,
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just like Tim Duncan could care less. I won a
bunch of rings. In his case trying to win his
first one. I won an MVP. I love my team
and they'll be a okay. But on the grander conversation
that we're having, I don't equate him to a superstar yet,
and neither do I with Tyres Alibert. I think he
stole the show of the postseason, whether hands down to me.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
But that doesn't make you a superstar either, And I
think I just think there's a big difference between being
a great player having big moments, you know, and.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Being a superstar.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Robert Lorrie made some of the biggest shots in NBA history,
a ton of them right help teams win championships. I
was sitting right near one of them when he made
the shot against the Pistons.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I was in the building too, I was there.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
For that, all right, and we all know anybody knew
when he got the ball, Oh god, you know what
I mean, like like.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Joe let big Shot Bob get it.
Speaker 4 (12:06):
And he got it and big Shot Bob put it
down and the Pistons lost that game and then over yeah,
ultimately the series.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
But my point is, was he a superstar?
Speaker 2 (12:17):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:18):
But he had clutch shots. He helped his team win
big time. Like was he clutch? Absolutely doesn't mean you're
a superstar yep.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And I think I see it. He could be on
his way because I think he's at the apex of
really really good or a star and all the wrong
way to go. But he's not superstar. And I think
an example of a Jokic is at the low end
of a superstar, just got into that next level to me,
So they're like really only a layer between those two
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in my mind, like ones at the lowest of a superstar,
ones at the top of an all star, and they're
near each other to me.
Speaker 6 (12:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
The other thing about the Joker is he's done stuff.
The thing that's incredible is he last year alone, he
did three things nobody ever did in the NBA like that.
When you start to see stuff like that. Uh, that's
where you separate yourself from other people, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
It's I think his passing gets him that because we're
just not used to seeing a big man be like
everybody have been other good passers. Bill Walton was the
heck of a passer. Chris Weber Vladi divir well, when you.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Have sixty and twenty yeah, and then he had there's
like three things he did last year that nobody had
done in the MV.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Did it then he do like a forty twenty years.
Speaker 4 (13:28):
Forty twenty twenty six got him twenty he did, He's
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Eight seven, seven, nine to nine on Fox, Having a
conversation about SGA, who has been dynamic, been exactly pretty
much the model of consistency from regular season into postseason.
(14:53):
I went to the finals. But does that deem you
a superstar even though you're an MVP and looking like
you could potentially be a f MVP if they were
to win this series. Eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, Rob,
who we got?
Speaker 3 (15:06):
All right?
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Let's start with Doug Dougie fresh from New York. You're
on the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
What's up, doug Hey, it's actually Dug the rug, Dug
the rug. Let's do it? What's up?
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Goodny I wear?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Oh, Julia? Is it a bad one?
Speaker 7 (15:21):
Now?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
Let me ask you, Doug, because some guys, some guys,
to make it look authentic, they have fake dandriff.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
They sprinkle a little dandriff in there.
Speaker 8 (15:30):
No, I scratch my suth like it's real.
Speaker 7 (15:33):
But this thing is legit.
Speaker 1 (15:36):
Well, why you tell us? I thought the point was
to be other, you know, hide it?
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Do people know it's a rug?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
Though, Doug.
Speaker 8 (15:42):
It's better than the hair that I had before, so
it was not really much to hide.
Speaker 7 (15:47):
All right?
Speaker 3 (15:47):
What you got?
Speaker 1 (15:48):
All right? I like you admitting it.
Speaker 8 (15:51):
With the playoffs or with the finals, there's no superstar
at all in this entire final. I wouldn't say it's
been a while. I can remember where they like the
super starch.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
Such a good point.
Speaker 8 (16:03):
Halliburton's not. I mean, it's just a bunch of role players,
which they're not really role players, but it's a bunch
of guys that play collectively well, which normally you don't see.
But that may be the new standard. And I love
this show and thanks for making us a.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Part of it, all right, No, I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
That's a good joint.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
No, Doug the Ruggs listen. I've been trying to tell y'all.
Y'all say, y'all don't want all the big names and
the usual suspects and super teams and all that. Well,
this is what you get and you ain't watching it.
Speaker 7 (16:29):
Now.
Speaker 3 (16:29):
You know what the numbers were like last night? You
saw them.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Look at your face. You already know the numbers? Did
you already know the numbers?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And they got all these minions going out and talking
about I.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
Don't understand why fans are talking about numbers.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Because the NBA is full of it.
Speaker 4 (16:43):
Okay, let's just be honest, because if they went through
the roof, you're gonna tell me, they wouldn't put out
a press release.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
They'd be the first. It wouldn't even get into sports
and everything anyway, breaking news. The ratings were fifteen.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
Points, right, that's my point.
Speaker 1 (16:56):
You let me tell you something. I just told Robber
this and this is crazy. I don't remember an NBA
finals were two games and I haven't received a text
from anybody.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
That's another one where somebody go did you see that.
I can't.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Usually you get it either love like hate, well I
hate Lebron or I love Lebron, I hate Steph dirt Man?
What do you ten threes in a row? Something Steph
missed another big shot. That's what I now would have
been been in the group chat with you. That's what
I always get I get from people to go. You know,
if he misses a shot, I swear to you, my
friends will text me. You know, I thought right of
you whenever he missed that three. That's what that's the
(17:29):
that's the group chat constant for sure.
Speaker 4 (17:32):
Tim Chili, Tim in Atlanta, you're on the odd couple,
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Tim?
Speaker 9 (17:37):
What Kevin good Man? No, he is not a superstar.
He's a really good player. I mean he's a great player.
He's he's a great young player. But I think what
he has to do he has to do it consistently.
Now he does all that this year, he comes back,
the kid tack on another great year. Then, because super
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is dark, they do it consistently. And you know this
is really his only far as I've been watching his
first big year, he's kind of put it all together.
So let's let's see him complete the work this year,
come back next year, you know, add up on it
and go from there.
Speaker 8 (18:13):
I just think, but I will say he is saving.
Speaker 9 (18:16):
Basketball for you because I do like, you know, in
the mid game and things like that. I think we're
looking at the next same Antonino Spirits. I think that's
who Oglosoma City is. And if we're gonna roll with it,
we just gonna have this ship that they're gonna be
the San Antonio Spirits and be happy with it.
Speaker 1 (18:31):
So all right, that's not crazy, that's not great.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Appreciate it, thank you.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
How about Drew in New Jersey, you're in the eye
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:40):
What's up, Drew.
Speaker 10 (18:41):
I don't think he's going to be a superstar. I
think he's still gonna win this championship. And I the
way I look at him is he is a great defender,
but he's like a Kawhi Leonard that focuses a little
bit more on offense that takes away from his defense.
Author NICOLEA. Jokic is not the first player score sixteen twenty.
That was Luka. Doncrich has never done that.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
What was last?
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But he had something simple, you know, like, uh, he
had a couple of Yeah, I just can't remember what
the numbers were he had.
Speaker 10 (19:11):
Yeah, but a lot of a lot of what Luca
did last year. I think when you're making MBT conversation
with jokis a lot of what Luca did last year
you could have pointed to your argument for this year also, Reggie,
know it does not belong in the Hall of Fame
based on your criteria, but it's not.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
But it's not.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You've got to remember the whole It's the Basketball Hall
of Fame, it's not the NBA.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
I agree.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
If you did the BAT the NBA Hall of Fame,
a lot of guys wouldn't be in.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I agree, Reggie. Well, I'll tell you this, and I
understand your argument. As far as Zacala is. The only
thing I would say to Drew is that it would
be hard to tell the story of basketball without Reggie
because of so many iconic moments. And this is part
of what I'm saying with SGA and others, is if
you don't have a flashy game or something that, you
got to have iconic moments, you know what I mean,
You got to have something that can.
Speaker 3 (19:58):
Not say to you right now, what was Ray mcgrady's.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
Well, the one he hit thirteen in like thirteen points
and was it thirty seconds or something. That was kind
of crazy.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
That was great, Yeah, but that but that shouldn't get
you in when you can't get out of the first round.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Know, Tracey McGrady saving grace, And this is coming from now,
I am a Tracy McGrady fan. But what got him
in was that for about a four or five year
it was Kobe or Lebron, I mean Kobe or a
team Max. But that but that's not enough to be
at the hall if he ain't get in. I wasn't mad,
but he was one of my favorite to watch. But
I was fine.
Speaker 4 (20:28):
But I just say, like, when you start to stack
up against the real great ones, he just does his
pale box.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I can't argue.
Speaker 4 (20:36):
I just can't put him next to Magic John's. Oh yeah,
Tracy McGrady, magic, Oh, Tracy McGrady.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
Dion Sanders always in the hall of a hall, like,
oh okay, we're in the Hall of paper. Here's the
Hall of the great all right, yep, all right. Appreciate
everybody's call as always, and don't forget last call coming
up towards the end. Of the show. If you need
to get in you can do so around then on
the way, we got Zach Harper covered the NBA for
the Athletic and Fox Sports Radio Weekend hosts as well.
Right now, Steven Sager, what's trending?
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Speaker 1 (21:13):
Thank you man, It's the OCAPA. Rob Kelvin on the
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Speaker 4 (21:20):
Before we get to Before we get there, he mentioned
Caitlin Clark missing another game.
Speaker 3 (21:26):
We have the w n B a TV waitings update.
Speaker 6 (21:29):
Here we go, okay, all right, good, I feel better now.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
So they're not great? Is that what you're saying? You go, yes, Uh,
that you see what I deal with on a daily basis,
like what I'll cover the NBA for the Athletic. Fox
Sports Radio Weekend host what's up, Zach?
Speaker 3 (21:52):
What's up?
Speaker 7 (21:53):
How you guys doing?
Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm doing good, man doing.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
I'm doing better now, no doubt about it.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Well, let's get to is Zach a Game two of
the finals kind of way actually as a script, I
was talking to Rob on this on Friday. I was
telling them after a loss, last four loss for the
the Thunder, we saw him bounce back to an average
of a twenty point margin of victory and they almost
got their game. Dude, but should take away from game two?
(22:21):
What'd you see?
Speaker 7 (22:23):
I mean, Yeah, it's funny because they got off to
the great start. And I expected them to get off
to a great start because, like you said, this team
bounces back probably better than anybody right like this, this
team is unbelievable. And so you know, they get up
to a good start. They're playing good defense and knocking
down shots. Everyone's doing it. Check's playing good ball, Gymn's
playing good ball. Obviously, Shad's an MVT and he's playing
like it. The bench comes through, but because it's the
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Pacers and because of what they've done, for some reason,
the Thunder, even the Thunder, I was like, I don't
know about this, you know, like you know, it's something
like twenty two to twenty three points, and I was like,
you know, these zombie Pacers, I don't trust it. And
then they started to make a little bit of a run.
But then once a Thunder kind of pushed that thing
back to twenty early in the fourth quarter. I felt
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pretty good about them closing it out. It just didn't
seem like Indiana really had it. Especially Tyres didn't really
have it. I thought, Okay, Soe did a phenomenal job
on him. I mean, they did a good job on
him in Game one too, but they did a great
job on him. On Pascal, they didn't really let those
three pointers get as open as they were in Game one.
I think you just saw them clean up a lot
of stuff defensively.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
I still expect the Pacers to play better to me,
for them to be one one on the road where
they haven't played well to me really yet they trailed
every part of Game one until the final zo point
three seconds. Right, where are you on the Pacers going
at home? They got what they wanted. If you're going
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to be in a series, which is you split on
the road, and now you come home and have a
chance to win a game, do you expect a better
outing from the Pacers.
Speaker 7 (23:56):
I do, because you do expect the role players to
step up at home knockdown shots, and we didn't see
that in Game two. I'm a little disappointed with what
we saw from them in game two because you know,
and granted they're not playing Cleveland and New York anymore,
but against the good Cleveland team, against the good New
York team, you know, they went into those two games
on the road in Cleveland at Madison Square Garden, and
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they went in and took both those games. And they
and they took that seriously. In game two, with that
opportunity to really put pressure on those teams, we didn't
see that same fire. And okay See is a different
animal in that, but I wanted to see a little
bit more urgency from Indiana. It seemed like against the
Thunder they were just happy to get that game one victory,
get that split. And I don't know that you can
ease up against okay See. And so I was a
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little disappointed with just the execution. I wouldn't I won't
say the effort, but because I don't think that's fair,
but the execution in game two, I thought the attention
to detail was was a little lax from them. But
they have to. I mean, you got to. You gotta
step on the neck right like you gotta go.
Speaker 4 (24:54):
And also, though to be fair, you don't expect them
to be to win the first two games in okay See.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
I think that's a till would.
Speaker 7 (25:00):
You give you that for sure? But it's the finals,
right like you.
Speaker 3 (25:04):
I get it, I get it.
Speaker 4 (25:06):
I agree that the effort wasn't like where it should
have been. But I just think ultimately you're thinking to yourself,
like when the Knicks won the first two in Boston, like,
that's just not that's not what people would expect. And
had they won the first two games in Oka See,
it would have been shocking to me, that's all.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
Oh oh absolutely no, I don't disagree with that. I
think it's just more about it. It's not that you lose,
it's the way you lose, right Like for years, I
never cared that the Houston Rockets were losing to the
Golden State Warriors. They weren't as good as the Golden
State Warriors. It's the way they were losing to the
Golden State Warriors that troubled me. And that's the thing,
is the way that they lost to Oka See. And
again you can say, hey, okay See does this to teams,
and they absolutely do and it could have been a
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lot worse. I just want to see a little bit
more attention to detail with that opportunity.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Well, Zach, I can't let them off the hook. Ty
Ree's what the Halliburton can't get all the praise, making
all the big shots and all that way, and we
love him and then have two games that were really
man at best. If you take out the shot, I
told the guys in order for them to have a
shot to win, he has to be aggressive, period, all
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the time. Aggressive doesn't mean shots, It just meant setting
the tone and kind of giving his team something to
work with. He hasn't been that. Do you think they
have a chance of winning this if he plays like
he has the first two games.
Speaker 7 (26:27):
I don't hate the way he played in Game one.
I thought, especially in the second half, he was good
at getting the ball into the middle of the floor
and forcing decisions by the defense and moving the ball right.
That's the way he needs to play. He was terrible
in the first half, but in the second half of
Game one, that's the way he needs to play. He
does need to be more aggressive with his shot. He
does need to be more aggressive than he was in
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Game two getting into the middle of the floor. I
thought he settled too often for what that pressure was
defensively and just kind of moving the ball I don't
want to say lazily, but just without purpose to just
get it out of his hands while the defense was
was kind of collapsing on him. And so I'm with you, like,
he has to play with way more force, way more purpose,
and that's difficult against Okay, see, because they've got about
a thousand defenders they can throw at they any given time,
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and it's not an easy thing. But also that's the job, right, Like,
you're the guy on the team that's in the finals.
You're the guy that they built this entire thing around
a couple of years ago and said we're going to
play this style of basketball around him because we believe
in him. You've gotten them this far. You got to
just whatever that extra extra effort is, whatever that extra
motivation is, You've just got to find those little edges
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to get into the middle of four. Because when he
gets in the middle of four, there's nothing you can
do with that Patrins team but praise that they missed
the shot.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
I want to talk about.
Speaker 4 (27:42):
I know a lot of people push back, and you
heard Adam Silver and people his minions are out there
pushing a narrative that this is unbelievable that people are
talking about the ratings. But when Game One is the
lowest rated game records since they started keeping track of
it in nineteen eighty eight, that's worth That's newsworthy.
Speaker 3 (28:02):
Don't you believe that's worth talking about? Like the lowest ever?
Speaker 7 (28:07):
I think it's newsworthy. I also think if I'm Adam Silver, like, look,
it's newsworthy worthy for us. If I'm out in Silver,
I would just get one of those money guns and
start shooting in the air and remind everybody I just
signed a deal for seventy six billion dollars.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Yeah, but that but that doesn't make that go away.
Speaker 4 (28:22):
You could do that all you want, because, and here's
my point, if if the ratings were good, would they
put out a press release telling you.
Speaker 3 (28:30):
How good they were? Okay, then that that's my point.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
They wouldn't put out a press release they had great
ratings and he said, well, we got seventy six million
dollars coming, so we don't care how good they are.
They wouldn't do that, And that that's my only point.
Don't make it like people are dumb and they can
only talk about something when it's favorable or good, you
know what I mean, and not both sides.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 9 (28:53):
Oh, oh, I'm with you.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
Look the radios are plus minus in the box score
right when it helps your point, you use it would
help your point, Like, that's just what it is right now.
I think, ultimately my biggest problem with the ratings conversation
from what Adam Silver does. And you know he was
on FS one last week and they asked him about
it and he started selling the NFL as a product.
And to me, I'm like, you have to sell your
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own league.
Speaker 9 (29:16):
That's the issue.
Speaker 7 (29:17):
You got the MVP of the league that no one
can guard. Sell that guy. Sell that guy as the
guy everyone needs to watch. That's the issue is it's
a marketing thing for me with the NBA. More than
anything I could care less about. I couldn't care less
about the ratings overall as a topic. I care about
the way they market the league. That's my issue.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
We're going to have a little longer conversation about that
here coming up in the show a little bit later on. Zach,
I get you out here on this one just where
I don't know where you were with your beginning of
the finals pick and has anything changed as we sit
here now one to one.
Speaker 7 (29:50):
I did have the Pacers winning Game one, and I
did have the thunder in sixth I'm gonna stick with
that because so far I look correct, but I will
change that at any time point it starts to look wrong.
If something them, I will find somewhere when I may
have intimated that it was thunder and five.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
I like that, spoken like a real radio person right there.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
All right, you sound like Kelvin You want his job
because you sound.
Speaker 7 (30:14):
Just like.
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Hey, I told him thunder and five. So far it
still look right, Zach, appreciate you. Man.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
You also told me the.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
Rhymes we're gonna be to commanders, but that's another story.
Speaker 1 (30:26):
It was right when you yelled at my right ear
for three months that Lamar Jackson's gonna be the MVP,
and I told you he wasn't rob.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And you told me that Justin Fields was going to
be the starting quarterback for the Steelers because everybody in
the room thought he was great.
Speaker 1 (30:38):
Remember that he And by the way, man, I tell you,
they wish I was right. They wish they would listen
to your boy, right yeah, And just like I told you,
Eli Manning wasn't in the Hall of Fame. You know
what you want to you want to do this sun, Yeah,
I want to do about an hour.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
And I got way more, way more than you do
because I have a brand.
Speaker 3 (30:55):
New pair of Jordans that I could wear.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
You do have a pair of Okay, that was just
you know you you you took I told you took
advantage of my pistons.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
And then and then when you got a chance to
get him back, you're afraid. That's the part that I'm
not afraid. You had a chance to Rod just sign,
but you had a chance to get it back.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
You had a chance to lamb.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
You'll take that bet. I ain't worried about. I'll come
back and you'll still get it to me. Shekel City.
Speaking of bets, we got Shekel City anyway. It's Rob
Parker Kelvin Washington on a Mantic City Monday, Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:27):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
All right, we're gonna have to break this up. What's
that it's ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
I know we got Rob G. I want you to
mark this down for Scott. Okay, we got too many
black people on this show right now.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
Where did this come? Where did you make you say that?
Speaker 5 (31:57):
I'm just saying, mind your Arrountine is in ten days?
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Yeah, you will say that before that. It's the odd couple.
Are you sure?
Speaker 3 (32:03):
I thought it had been executive ordered out.
Speaker 1 (32:05):
No, I believe it's still hanging on.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
I'm shocked.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I can't believe it. Is it the day before?
Speaker 3 (32:12):
Will it be the day before? Pull a plug on
June Team right before?
Speaker 1 (32:16):
I'm dead serious, I'm shocked to the MLB bro head on.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
I'm yeah, No, I I did get a letter from
the White House to remove something.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
Fox Sports Radio. I couple Robert Kelvin on a Magic
City Monday. Apparently are all of our last Monday together,
Court and Rob h it's too black, all right, and
it's time out for Shekel City, all right?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Shekel City Friday one and two.
Speaker 4 (32:43):
I'm now at one fifty three and one fifty one,
so still over five hundred.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Here we go, Let's make some make up some ground
tonight best better got the Angels minus one after playing back.
You know what, Ron Washington, I give them credit. Evin
there thirty and thirty four almost halfway through the season.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Like they're close to five hundred, which is not bad
for them.
Speaker 1 (33:06):
They're competing, yeah they are.
Speaker 4 (33:07):
So I'll take the Angels minus one and a half.
They're hosting the Athletics. Then I have San Diego plus
one and a half. They're hosting the Dodgers. Dodgers got
a big week. They got the Padres on the road,
then the Giants at home, so they got a nice
big week for the Dodgers. And then they got the
Braids minus one and a half. They're in Milwaukee taking
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on the Brewers. So the Braids minus one and a
half runs, Padres plus one and a half runs, and
the Angels minus one and a half runs. And remember, Kelvin,
I'm not telling you who to bet on. I'm telling
you who I bet on.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
There you have it. We'll see if you can make
up some ground tonight. But also side for the tirereck
player of the day. Steps across the timeline, splashes white
with a steps in the paint, times.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
To the rim, wraps up and in the layup and
he's hacked in the act squeezing between matter and the
nise man kill.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
Miss Alixander in the role with whu DNI's disappeared.
Speaker 4 (34:03):
Among them the Pacer Minions, and then they came up
to the other side for the end.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
One man Pacers Radio network. They called them minions.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
Roight yeah, oh yeah, the minions. Hey, let's let's talk
Ki and I want to make sure we hold up.
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Speaker 3 (34:36):
I was gonna say.
Speaker 4 (34:37):
Everybody seen the news that ESPN has announced that they
signed Dick Vitel through the twenty seven to twenty eight
season college basketball. Dicks at all kinds of health issues,
we know, how is the staple at ESPN, And the
thing that came out of it at first was like Wow.
You know, Dick Fotel has been there forever and ESPN
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is extending him through twenty and what is his twenty
five that's a new three year contract. But then you
read a little deeper on and they're launching the Dick
Vitel Invitational, which will be the first matchup is opening
the season opening till between Duke and Texas. And I
think that's where ESPN is doing the right thing on
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keeping Dick Vitel's name in college basketball, you know, synonymous
with ESPN with this invitational. This was just you know,
him hanging around and hanging on or whatever.
Speaker 3 (35:34):
I would be.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
I think it would be different, but in this case,
this is something that they put his name to that
will last longer than Dick Vitel at ESPN.
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Yeah, I think it's I mean, you mentioned it. It's
not often you can be synonymous with an entire sport,
you know what I mean, especially from a person who
didn't play it, you know what I mean. I don't
know if he actually played college basketball or not, back
back back, back back in the day, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Sure he did. I mean, I'd be surprised if.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
You but I'm saying, you know, he is he was
a coach, he'd become broadcaster. And I mean you could argue,
I don't know if there's anyone more connected to college
basketball that's a non player right now than him.
Speaker 4 (36:11):
It used to be Billy Packer if you remember, right, Yeah,
Packer on CBS.
Speaker 7 (36:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (36:15):
But Dick Vitel, and we talked about what we mentioned
the SCA and superstars, Dick Vitel, Dicky v had that
has that superstar quality all the slangs, the humor, the face,
the animation. Uh, and he just was he is one
of those people, one of those icons into sports. So
you're glad to hear they're gonna honor him that way.
And he's had a great run man. Obviously, first and foremost,
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you just want his health to be at the.
Speaker 3 (36:39):
Best that he I mean, it's been it's been rough
for years now.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Yeah, he's eighty six years old. In fact, today, what's today, June?
It's his birthday. He just turned eighty six today, June ninth.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Yeah, so that would be a nice birthday. President. Why
they announced this whole invitational.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Right yep? So you know, you, first and foremost his family,
I'm sure they would echo the sentiment that health is
the most important thing for him. But you just want
you just want the last you know. However many for
more years, God graces him to just be as easy
and as comfortable as possible, and as also one where
he receives his flowers too. You know, it's okay to
give people their flowers right now while they're here, while
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they're with us. Doesn't have to be when they're gone
and we go, oh, I wish we would have this
is it's okay to give people their flowers. Why they
can still smell them, and so it seems like they're
gonna be able to do that with Dicky V when
it comes to this invitational, which is awesome.
Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yeah. I agree. Yeah, I think that that was the
the the bow on.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
Top of this, you know what I mean, not just oh, yeah, Dick,
here's a new contract for your birthday, hang around, but
actually put his name on something and leave a legacy.
Forty one years at ESPN is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah. Well, I mean that's it's much since the beginning, basically,
I mean, that's been incredible from the beginning.
Speaker 7 (37:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:55):
Yeah, and we've gone through all the iterations of him too,
from curly Afros to that you know, and so it's
awesome to see you getting his flowers and getting invitational.
All right, make sure you stay with you boys, because
Rob Parker has some issues and think the Steelers are
lucky and dodge a bullet by not signing someone else
other than Aaron Rodgers and idly disagree. We'll tell you
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who