August 5, 2025 • 39 mins
FOX Sports Radio Weekend hosts Martin Weiss and Alex Monaco are in for Rob and Kelvin, and the guys tell us why it's so important for Shedeur Sanders to ball out in his preseason debut with the Cleveland Browns, explain why the NFL media at-large has been wrong forever about the importance of preseason football, discuss what we can expect from Justin Fields in his first season with the New York Jets, and tell us what they really think about Dabo Swinney's plan to go 16-0 at some point with Clemson.
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Speaker 2 (00:23):
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Speaker 4 (00:30):
That's right, Do not adjust your radio dialis Martin Weiss
and Alex Monico in for Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington
on a trash talking Tuesday.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
Wow, that's Alex Monico. What's hell?
Speaker 5 (00:44):
Martin? Fired up to be here, baby, let's go glad to.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Be here as well.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
You may have heard us on Saturday night, but you
know what, it's Tuesday. We're ready to go ahead and
get down to Let's introduce the Odd Couple crew while
we have the opportunity. DJ Alex Heiser, he's on the
ones and twoes and I have to say. I do
have to say last week I was talking big and
bad and my, oh my, how the turntables have turned.
(01:15):
I have it has been B two A as the
kids called.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
And iPhone pool, you know the iPhone pool.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
Wow, you're going to old school iPhone pool with him.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
I will say this if you have my phone number.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
I welcome all challenges, and I need them right now
because I'm on a cold streak. It's cold and Shekel
City in the middle of August. All right, I'll tell
you Alex Tyger's been whooping my ass. Kudos to you,
my friend changes today. Uh, super producer Rob G is
here as well. Who After we got off the phone
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with Rob G, Alex Alex Monico said to us, Wow,
very collaborative.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Very clear, almost like JJ Reddick should be with Lebron
and Luca Martin.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Very collaborative, Steve de Sagers doing the updates and Elijah
doing media. Appreciate you guys and all the work that
you do. And again, once we can hopefully get the
Little League World Series off here and got watch real baseball,
then I'll be completely satisfied with the super producer Rob G.
But here's the thing, very much like you and I today,
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Alex Monico, we are coming off the bench and going
into the starting spot. We are in his starting role,
much like Shador Sanders is getting his best shot right
now that he has had news broke just a couple
hours ago. Shador Sanders, not Kenny Pickett, not Joe Flacco,
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not Dylan Gabriel, not recently signed Tyler Hunting of Cleveland
and Miami Fame prior to this. Shador Sanders will be
getting the start Friday night against the Carolina Panthers, and
Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers, has already
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said he's starting some of his guys on Friday. So
we are going to see Shador Sanders against the starters
for the Carolina Panthers in live action preseason albeit, but
it's the best football we got right now.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
This is the best news out of Cleveland potentially all month.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, it depends on who's asking. I think it's terrible
news for Kenny Pickett and killing Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, I had tweeted five foot eleven, Dylan Gabriel is
just killing me with the tape that I'm seeing, and
I just feel like Schadur's done to me outside of
we know the Cleveland Browns walls, nothing but what you
would want a leader to be. He's answering questions the
right way. He's showing up early, he's leaving late, he's
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getting in extra reps and I would toss it back
to you, Martin. Is this a guy if he didn't
go on Day three of the draft that we would
be expected to be in this Friday night slot QB one.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I mean, there's a lot of people even though he
did go in the fifth round of the draft, I
expected this, But the reality is for me, at least,
this is how it works in the NFL. Like Shador Sanders,
I'm not gonna say was always going to get this opportunity,
because that's that's not true. But guys every single year
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win and lose jobs because somebody else got hurt. It's
just the way of this game. In fact, just as
Drew Bledsoe if he spins out of bounds instead of
taking that shot from mo Lewis.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Have we ever heard of Tom Brady? Is there a.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Better guy offspring of the man stay ready so you
don't have to get ready? Then Shadur. Honestly, I'm rooting
for him. It seems like a lot of the media
is maybe going to Costan's opposite. I want nothing but
this man to prove everyone wrong because really, as he's
alluded to Martin, this is what he did at multiple
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phases of his college career. It does seem like oh
Red Carpett was laid out for him. If you really
go into the weeds. He continued to progress, so that's
why he didn't waiver based off the depth chart over
the last few weeks, and here he is, and I
think he's gonna come in calm, cool and collective, a
lot like his personality. And I think he's gonna impress Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, I it depends because if you look at the report,
So you look at the reports that have been coming out,
some of them said he's a little alble Breer said
he was kind of like behind schedule, seemingly like he
was way behind. That's why he hadn't gotten reps with
the ones. Then Mary Kay Cabot came out just most recently.
She's also the one who initially broke the story that
Shador Sanders was going to be getting this start. Mary
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Kay has been covering the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Since movie Dick was a Guppy.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Now become Klon Browns for a very very long time,
and she was saying that, you know, the stats in
training camp are really reflective of how he's been playing,
and we're not there.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We're not there to see it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
We're not well, we're pulling all these clips from training
camp and using them as referendums, and it's ultimately it
very much feels like summer league basketball, where if you
like the guy going in, you'd be like, oh, man,
did you see such and such at twenty five? He
did like a guy going in, Oh did you see
he was eight for twenty? Like you know what I mean, Like,
why isn't he dominating?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But I mean, if you're Stefanski, are you doing the
same exact rollout on Friday? I know everyone's banged up,
but let's say they weren't. Would would this be Shadur
coming in?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't think so, No, shot, I don't think so
one bit.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
My whole thing the whole time, Martin has been this
is the number one most accurate quarterback in FBS. Coming
into the draft, nothing but Dogden dragged with his name
when all he did was go out and ball in Colorado,
turned around a program. Oh by the way, and the
other guy we know that got drafted, I called him
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in the prep with rob this the Van Wilder at
college football. We already know what Dylan Gabriel was he
is a gunslinger, but to me, he's a little more
of a college quarterback than he is an NFL quarterback.
And what Kenny Pickett's on his third club already and
Flacco's a cul de sac father of three. I think
the answer is easy for Friday Night. It's just how
we got to this conclusion was obviously very unique.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And so I think that's the one.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And we'll talk about another thing that I think the
NFL media is just flatly wrong about. We'll talk about
that in just about ten more minutes, but right now,
this is one that I think the media is really
wrong about in terms of shadure view, because.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I agree with everything you said. I watched him to college.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I thought he was gonna be the first quarterback taken
up until maybe two weeks before the draft and it
was like, no, cam Ward's going number one for sure. Yeah,
And then I was like, all right, well, you know,
I think he's got a shot to go second round.
You know what I'm saying. That's where I thought your
door was going. He got drafted in the fifth row.
But none of that matters anymore, does it. Your draft
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position is irrelevant. You're on the team and now you
have an opportunity to make the team. Because right now
a lot of the question is will Shador Sanders make
the roster. I think some of that is overblown, but
it's a valid question to be had.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Now here's the rub. Would you have gotten this opportunity
if everybody was healthy?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But they're not. So you do so now what? Now?
What are you going to do?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You do the only thing you know how to do, baby,
you ball.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And if you go out there and you show essentially
the world what you feel like you can do, then
that makes this competition a lot more difficult to have
a conversations behind closed doors. If Shador goes out there
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and he's checking at the line, he's got his offensive
line protections right, he's checking into the right place, and
then it is accurate and on time and making the
right decisions with the ball and all of that right right,
and he comes out there, then you see. Because here's
the other thing about this, we aren't going to see
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more than likely Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, nor Joe Flacco
in this preseason game, So there will be no highlights
of those guys. What we will see is Shador if
he comes out and impresses, then it'll be well, he's
better than those guys sight unseen, well of what those
other guys even look like.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
You know, it's a great point. What's interesting about the
mechanics of the Browns is they have a great defense,
and they've had, at least for years, a solid running game.
This is Shadar coming in and being a game manager
and peppering in, in my humble opinion, a little bit
of his improvised skills because he does his ability to
extend plays. He does have the athleticism. Is there anything
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in particular he could do Friday night to move up
the depth chart?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I think what he does Friday night to move up
the depth chart? If he does besides the number one
thing staying healthy, sure, I think the more he shows
a mastery of the offense. From what I'm reading and
hearing from Browns camp, it is something it's like the
pre snap checks. It's like making sure that they're in
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the right look versus this defensive look verst that defensive look.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Verse two high, show verse one high. What are you
seeing that?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
This the pre snap They look one high and they
rotate actually to cover six or cover four or whatever.
Right like, are you seeing what the defense is doing
and then as a result, getting the offense in the
right position. That's what's gonna impress me more than you
know if shador Like steps out of three sacks and
throws a touchdown. Yeah, because that's consistent and that's not
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probably gonna be happening when you're when Miles Garrett won't
be chasing him.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But when you know TJ. Watt is chasing him around
the edge.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
It's interesting because he does come under center with a
team that's had virtually no leadership for how many years
and how many times have they fumbled the quarterback position?
So to me, I think Sadur yes, can he do
the quarterback in tangibles to impress Shore? I'd actually like
him to see. I'd like to see a little bit
of leadership that's maybe not in the game plan. That's
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something that I feel is what he does naturally. I
genuinely believe what say you that he is a natural
born leader, and that's why I love the fit in Cleveland.
Dylan Gabriel as a leader of men doesn't jump off
the board. Pickett is a certified backup in this league,
or he wouldn't have been already moved around, and Flacco's
on hole eighteen.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
The only guy, in my opinion, who has the capable
ability to be the franchise quarterback for Cleveland for any
extended period of time.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It should do it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'm in lockstep with.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Now, do I think it'll happen, that's a different question.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But of the.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Guys listed on this do you know we've ran through
them a few times now, chaud Door is the only
one that has a shot.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'd say is maybe a twenty percent shot.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
But I'll say this, this is his his first best
shot to put out the best possible impression.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
This is his first best shot.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Okay, look, yeah, you're and you are in a a what.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
The ring around? What is that game?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh my goodness, no musical chairs the game of musical chairs.
There's three chairs and there's four quarterbacks. Right, That's that's
the game in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
We're asking if Shador Sanders gonna get cut. You know
what would.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Solve a lot of problems.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
If Shador Sanders goes out there and plays really well
and then you know, because you know what, we saw
quarterbacks start games last year. That's a Matthew Stafford is
week to week with the back injury. Rams got two
first round picks next year. I don't think they trade
a first round pick for Shador Standers, but maybe there's
some level like Shador goes out there, plays well in
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Week one of the preseason. Hey, Cleveland, I can solve
your quarterback problem for you. I'll take a fourth row.
I'll trade you Shador Sanders for a fourth rounder.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Well, let me ask you, because if you're a Cleveland
Browns fan, let's just sit in that world for a second.
You leut everyone down with the Watson signing without hesitation,
and you really haven't solved the quarterback puzzle post Mayfield,
if for call it what it is, I already laid
out what the other three are. We don't know what
Schadur ISAs. Wouldn't you think it'd be adventatious management owners,
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even Stefanski in locks up to give the fans this look.
I just think they owe it to the Cleveland fans
to give a potential, real look at what could be
a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, whether it's owed or not, is what they're going
to get.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So so what they're going to get on Friday coming
up next, I'm gonna address something that has really been
getting under my skin about people like me. I'm gonna
shut the record straight because I think we all got
it wrong, and those people who actually put on pads
and helmets and all of that, they got it right
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Speaker 4 (16:07):
Alex, because I'm about to dip my toe into waters
that uh, I'll be talking about a lot of people
I know personally, talk.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
About a lot of people that follow a lot of
people who honestly, you know, I honestly have a lot
of respect for them.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You're going shallow in here. You jump it right in
the deep end.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You said tip a toe Michael Phelps. Wow, So.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
There has been a pluriferation in the last ten years
or so as media became more accessible. There's more microphones,
more cameras that there's more and more people that wanted
to talk about football, and the amount of people who
played football didn't like grow.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was like, so, so now you found a bunch
of people like you and me who want to talk
about football, never played football, where nobody cared about us
playing football.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Right, you probably were higher on the fifty three man
then I played in the fifth quarter of famous If.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It went to the fifteen hundredth and third man, then
maybe right, But That's about where I'm at at. And
so you have a bunch of guys like me talking
from what team to be places of authority on football.
But really a lot of times were giving our opinions
and we present them as fact. And this opinion has
been presented as fact in the media, and I am
seeing it pushed back on a ton this offseason, and
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I love it.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I'm dying out.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I'm dying out.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What it is you can't play your starners in the preseason?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Why would you do that.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
They're gonna let your guys get hurt in a meaningless
football game.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh the horror.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
We're seeing starters across the board playing in these preseason games,
and I'm here to tell you I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Now. Does everybody need to play in the preseason?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Matthew Stafford's thirty seven years old, he's been playing football since.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Like his football career as.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
A driver's license. He can week to week. How about this,
see you week one. The doctor could put see you
week one on the on the prescription and I'd be
all right, cool, good, good to go. But like the
other day, Bryce Young was not playing in preseason.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Ga, what are we doing? Like? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Do I need to see Josh Allen playing the preseason?
I'll tell you what, Josh, how do you feel? You
want a series? You want two series, you want no series?
Whatever you like? Pat, what do you think? Same deal? Lamar,
what do you think? But like some people like Seattle Darnold,
get out there, buddy. Yeah, you're our star, you're our
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franchise quarterback. This is our first time, this is your
first time take I want the first time you take
the offense on my team to be a.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Dress rehearsal, not real live bullets flying.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Well, it's it's an interesting point. You make a great case.
I guess we'd push back a little on is it
has to be team by team?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
We get the seniors on campus, which at this point
does include a lot of who you mentioned, even a
Burrow a Lamar not necessary? Where are we though, I'll
throw it to you since this is your thought. I'm
like a bow knicks at Jayden Daniels. I need to
second year guys.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'd like to see those guys, and I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Listen, you look back from Zack Taylor from twenty nineteen
when he has started being the Cincinnati Bengals head coach.
They have the worst record in the NFL in weeks
one and two. Joey Burrows might need to get out
there and throw something over there to Jamar Chase real quick,
just to get on the right page.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Isn't it interesting? Because I asked you in between commercial
it was Sean McVay that kind of started and spearheaded this.
I don't want my oh, but Sean mcfhan is a
phonographic memory and is a He's a one of one
coach as far as his recollection and how he coaches.
I don't see another guy running his program like McVeigh
(19:57):
and let me throw it. You throw this to you.
Because basketball is a game of confidence, in a game
of runs. To your thought, football is a game of choreography.
How are you in sync if you're not playing the
first couple of weeks. The worry, of course, though, is
when you have turnover and you have young guys. What
is the happy medium from younger dudes that still have
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to prove themselves. But then you also want to preserve
of course, their health, which you still have to push
back on to some regard.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
But here's the thing, like, okay, that's as soon as
a guy gets hurt this weekend playing in a preseason game,
because football is a game of if, when you get hurt,
if you get hurt. But when a guy gets hurt
this weekend, there will be a cavalcade of tweets saying,
oh my goodness, somebody got hurt in the meaningless preseason game.
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What do you think they're doing Monday through Friday? What
do you think is happening in joint practices? Tidley winks checkers.
They're playing football practice in football, they are tackling each other.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
They are hitting each other.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And simply because it is happening in a joint practice,
the do mitigation of injury cannot be as such that
it matters that much between playing it in a preseason
game versus a joint practice.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Like, sure, you're.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Actually hitting the quarterback in a preseason game, understood, Guess
what happens in real games though your quarterback actually gets hit.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't agree that.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Your quarterback is needs to get hit Monday through Friday,
but guess what your offensive lineman probably should block Monday
through Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I guess if you're talking from a fighting perspective, is
it's sparring in the ring at practice versus all right,
this is gonna be an exhibition. It's not gonna count
on your record, but you're gonna fight in front of fans.
There's something to be said about performing versus practicing in
this thought, and I think you're onto something, and I
think you're on the right side of it. But we
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are in a load management era across sports. That's why
I'm kind of working with you on what is the
happy medium? Because back in the day, we're old enough
to back in the day. When are the starters coming in?
They're coming in the middle of the preseason, right and
continuing to get more and more reps, almost a half worth,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And so out.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
We watched a Hall of Fame game Gofston Street close.
No problem there, But I asked you off air too,
JJ McCarthy, what did you say to me?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I need I think it's a good idea that he's
playing in a preseason I need to see it. And
speaking of need to see it, there's another guy with
some of these training camp reports that we need to
see it and in this preseason game.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
But it needs to look good.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Because yikes, but somebody who needs no preseason Steve to say.
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Speaker 4 (22:56):
Steve, have you kept any eyes on this Twins Tigers game?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Did something happen mister Detroit?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm just the Tigers have only scored in this inning,
and the only reason they have scored is because Twins
outfielders have dropped multiple fly balls like the.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Runs are earned. But I'm just saying it run is earned.
I should say, listen, I'm sitting there washingt them. That's
a drop.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
If they're playing football, they'd be like, you should have
caught that ball.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I have seen the Dodgers outfield defense this year. A
fully agree, and it's just this is just fast.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
This is how you can really tell the big gap
between Triple A well and major leaguers because traded everybody and.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
It was literally ten or eleven guys off the major
league roster that the Twins traded away in the past week.
May you, in fact, Alex could talk about this. Do
you remember it wasn't that many years ago when there
was a season the Padres were fielding essentially a Triple
A team.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
For most of the year.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Oh, I remember, Steve, it was.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It was let's just say noticeable.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Absolutely. I mean, it's just this ending should have ended
well before your updates started and it's still going. But
all right, Martin Weiss, Alex Monico in for Rob Parker
and Calvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday. We will
do trash talking Tuesday. At what time do we do
trash talking Tuesday? There we go seven eight forty five,
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eight forty five eight forty five five.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Forty five Pacific.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
We will give you the opportunity to trash whoever you'd
like to in the world of sports, and maybe it's
time to trash this guy. Reports from Jets camp have
been dire. Justin Fields is putting out as Jalen Royal
was once said about a shooting percentage tour dates instead
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of completion percentage. I saw four for thirteen floating around.
I saw like a June seventeenth floating around. You know,
it's not been great reports from Jets camp about how
Justin Fields is, particularly his complete percentage. The passing seems
to be lacking. The big issue. Justin Fields plays quarterback
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for the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Listen, that's New York media for you. I'm in it.
It is going to be in Jets camp proved to
me this is the guy because Bears fans, even Steelers fans,
have something to say about jf Now, you and I
I think we're on the right side here. I'm a
believer in Justin Fields. Are you writing a ton off
(25:38):
from these these August takeaways from camp? I think you
gotta give him some grace, Martin. He just got the town.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's interesting because when I first read these and Rob
g kind of poked my brain about it, I thought,
it really reminds me of a lot of this stuff
I'm hearing out of Bears camp, and I think differently,
not just because Ben Johnson and air Aaron Glenn both
came from Detroit, but more the messaging around the quarterback.
(26:07):
And the only time that Aaron Glenn has not been
just head over heels, fully throated in his defense of
Justin Fields is when Justin Fields dislocated his toe, in which.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He was like, we'll be fine with Tyrod.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
And I get it in that moment, because in that moment,
you're projecting, you know, strength to your team, and you
know sky is not falling. You cannot say, oh, well,
Justin Fields is done, so our season is done.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I thought Justin.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Fields should have started for Pittsburgh until they started to lose.
I thought he was I thought that Pittsburgh had found
an effective way to use Justin Fields offensively.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Ironically, let me throw it right back to you. The
mechanics of Steeers football is gonna be, in my humble opinion,
very similar to what Aaron Glenn wants to accomplish in
New York built inside out, have strong trenches, ideally on
both sides, but certainly on the defensive side. And then
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let's not forget we got deck the halls at running
back brease and a competent, moving in the right direction
offensive line that was in turmoil when Rogers was there.
All Fields needs to do is what he did in Pittsburgh,
which was win games, manage games, and uses athleticism when needed.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
And that's the thing I think, Okay, justin Fields, to me,
it seems evident through watching him play, watching tape so on,
he either does not trust it or does not see
it a lot. If if first guy is covered, it
doesn't seem that he is rotating through the defense, moving
through his progressions. It doesn't seem like that it's something
(27:41):
that he is actively doing at a high level. And
I think it kind of caught up to him in
Pittsburgh a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And I think ultimately it will.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
It is what will stop him from being an elite
or even top top anything quarterback, sure, right, but what
I do think is his speed and athleticism in today's NFL,
where you're c teams winning super Bowls with Jalen Hurts
(28:11):
and being successful with like the likes of obviously Lamar
Jackson has souped up version, but like the quarterback that
can move is something that really helps along the way
of moving your offense.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I think, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Will essuee some of Justin Field's completion percentage some of
my third down limitations with the idea that on third
and six he might just tuck it and get me ten.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I think that's valuable, especially at a team like the
Jets in a division like the AFC East, because if
you just look around the division, Miami is a dumpster fire.
I think Mike McDaniels got a great got a great
shot to be first coach fired. Tyreek Hill can't stop talking,
and it's just been worse and worse every time. He
was better when he wasn't paying any attention. All Right,
(28:57):
The Bills are the Bills, you know. I don't expect
to see a major drop off from them. And then
even what a major drop off from them will be
with nine wins, do you know what I mean? There's
still like a major drop off and them will be
flirting with five hundred. So I don't think that they're
going anywhere in the relevancy of this conversation and the
other wild card in the division or the unknown in
the division. I should say the Patriots another new head coach,
(29:21):
not a first year this time, but a new head
coach in Mike Vrabel. You look roster to roster, Patriots
added a lot of free agents, did a lot in
the draft, boosted up front. I think the Jets skilled
players are better than the Patriots skilled players.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Skilled players in New York have been above par around
the league. This is set up for a quarterback two
plug and play.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Now.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Of course Tanner the passing game coordinator by way of
the Lions coming in as oc here with ag coming
from Detroit. So we'll see out what kind of in particular,
and we'll know more once we see preseason action curated
game plan he has around field. But tossing it back
to you, Martin, this is a guy who had a
mountain of pressure in Chicago, who was on really a
(30:07):
pitch count in Pittsburgh because Russ was kind of promised
he was going to get that role, win healthy. Now
he comes to New York, a place that has no
patience from a Jets pov with we need to win now.
But We're also in year one Aaron Glenn's program.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I don't think that the Jets are in and we
need to win now. Mo, you don't think I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's New York baby. We got no talk, all right,
So yeah, sure I get it. The back page is
the pressure is so hard.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, that's why the whole win now has really worked
for any New York team in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But uh, but I just I don't. It doesn't feel
like that to me.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I think that Aaron Glenn is not necessarily getting a
there's there's a honeymoon period of sorts. I think with
Aaron Glenn right now, I put it to you like this,
Aaron Glenn said today or yesterday that his big move
to get the Jets to stop committing so many penalties
is to.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Have officials at practice.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Officials at practice is something that has been going on
for in my NFL. Nowed's at least a decade. Right,
That's not new. That's not new at all. If Robert
Sala had said that last year at this time of year,
people would have been making fun of him for it
would have been doing laps everywhere, making how much fun
they would have been making of him for saying, oh,
(31:26):
now you think of it, Aaron Glenn says it today.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, well you know, let's see how it works.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Well, you're drawing parallels to Caleb and Ben Johnson in Chicago.
Who do you think is under a shorter leash of
we need to win now, Bears camp with Ben Johnson
and Caleb or Jets camp with Justin and Eric.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, that answers to the Bears. It's not even close.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
See, because I feel on the New York side, this
team was built with championship expectations. With Rogers, they just
had the quarterback not meshed with the head coach. Now
it's obviously a flirting phase where we see, let's see
if Justin Fields is this guy. I just don't know
how Aaron Glenn comes in and completely blows us unless
(32:11):
Justin Fields reverts back to maybe he needs to go
get a little Jamis Winston Lasik if you will, and
he truly cannot see open receivers because they're, to your
point earlier, are so above average at key skill position
spots working on the offensive line. I've seen it in
the last two years. I think the pressure is on
(32:32):
the Jets even though the Bears fans have been waiting
since Rex Grossman to get back.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Here's where You're wrong, Here's where you're roll first with
Caleb Williams. All right, Rob g I'll tell you where
you're wrong. Coming up, let's go.
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Alex Monico En did last segment talking about the Jets.
You were saying, you know, you want to give me
a thirty second recap of your spiel of why the
Jets should be successful because of the team that were
building with Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Well, I think why they would have been successful with Rogers?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Well, you think that team and then the team would
be successful this year? Go for Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I thought they had a lot of the infrastructure, correct.
I thought the offensive line year one with Rogers was
not buttoned up like year two where they made a
little more of a push to lock in the offensive line.
But this was it was a top three pasty coming
in from Rogers year one, but they had pieces in
place to be able to I think with a quarterback
(34:58):
make some noise. The problem is they haven't gotten quarterback
right since what back in the Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Well, I thought they had pieces in place the Jets.
That's why they fired everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well solo.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
This is the problem in our league, Martin. There's more.
The maturation of the of the head coach, obviously is
a promotion from coordinator often to head coach. Robert Salah
is an unbelievable defensive coach. He had no business being
the head coach of that particular team. I already see
(35:29):
shades of Aaron Glenn's leadership I didn't see in two
New York winters under Salah. And what did you say
on our show the other week when Rogers and Salah
had a chance to embrace, they pushed each other away.
Ag And there's something to say about it. Played in
this league, played in that town, in that locker room.
He knows how to coach up players. Fields hasn't had
(35:54):
a place where I feel he has even been properly
coached up. Now we got a shot for both things
to be in line in the same time.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
We got a shot kind of the same way I
can go to the liquor store and buy a lot
of reticket. I got a shot to retire. But you know,
I think both of these things have about the same
shot of happening. Dabo Sweeney said yesterday. In twenty eighteen,
we were the first fifteen and OL team in the
history of major college football. And I think we're gonna
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be the first sixteen inn o team. It's a race
to do that. I'm here to tell you, Bolt, I'm
here to tell you we have had the last undefeated
college football national champion. Wow, there will not be another.
There will not be another. We have had the last one.
It was the University of Michigan with their twenty two seniors. No, seriously,
(36:49):
because here's how can you be so confident, Because here's
the thing. Nobody's gonna come back like that. Nobody is
going to continue to stay at the same school. Even
last year with the Ohio State, right, how many guys
did they have that could have went pro that return
to come back to school a ton? But Michigan that
(37:11):
the year that Michigan did, they had nearly every single player.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Of note, you.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Don't think nil is gonna make like a quinn Ewers,
who arguably could make more in college this year if
he stayed then going to play for backup two in
Miami no, sure, quarterback, Well, that could be conducive to
running it back and running the table at sixteen and ho.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
But quarterback.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
But if I am a left tackle, worth the damn
I'm going to the league. But also, I think it's
you're also competing with just in terms of the college
football level, Bill Belichick. Just go to ACC and just oh,
here I go, I just popped your left tackle. Let
me get that.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
So you're saying, just it's mini, it's junior NFL now,
and nobody goes on the FELD.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Nobody goes undefeated in the I guess nobody expects anybody
to go undefeated in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Well, I mean, if you're looking at Troy Georgia Tech
Syracuse right after Brian Kelly, who can't show up for
a big game since he got to LSU, then maybe
all right, we're off to a at least first month
of winning football for the Clemson time.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
No.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I mean, I think Clemson will win a ton of games.
I think they'll win the ACC. But the idea of
sixteen and oh, I don't buy it. I think that
you're gonna have to schedule in this iteration of college football,
especially where you could play Texas Ohio State week one,
and it will have zero implication on whether one of
those teams can play for a national championship. Like it'll
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take multiple losses outside of that for it to happen.
You'll have to now schedule to be ready for the postseason.
You have Tennessee went to Ohio State and got molly wopped,
not only because oh I'll say, was that much better because.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Tennessee hadn't played a game above Missouri since nineteen ninety six.
Tell them, do you know what I'm saying. It's like,
you're gonna have to schedule differently.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
We've seen the last one the University of Michigan and
Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Wow, so bullshit, it's over.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I'll do it. I'll do a gentleman's mat with your
ten years here over under nine a half years. I'll
take the over they under.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Excuse me, I'm not going there will never be another.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
You're just you're wearing a Michigan Jim Robbie, he's wearing
a Michigan sweater.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Speaking of I went to college longer than this guy,
barely
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Wow, you're going to old school iPhone pool with him.
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Speaker 4 (01:30):
I welcome all challenges, and I need them right now
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(01:51):
with Rob G, Alex Alex Monico said to us, Wow,
very collaborative.
Speaker 5 (01:56):
Very clear, almost like JJ Reddick should be with Lebron
and Luca Martin.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
Very collaborative, Steve de Sagers doing the updates and Elijah
doing media. Appreciate you guys and all the work that
you do. And again, once we can hopefully get the
Little League World Series off here and got watch real baseball,
then I'll be completely satisfied with the super producer Rob G.
But here's the thing, very much like you and I today,
(02:26):
Alex Monico, we are coming off the bench and going
into the starting spot. We are in his starting role,
much like Shador Sanders is getting his best shot right
now that he has had news broke just a couple
hours ago. Shador Sanders, not Kenny Pickett, not Joe Flacco,
(02:49):
not Dylan Gabriel, not recently signed Tyler Hunting of Cleveland
and Miami Fame prior to this. Shador Sanders will be
getting the start Friday night against the Carolina Panthers, and
Dave Canalis, head coach of the Carolina Panthers, has already
(03:11):
said he's starting some of his guys on Friday. So
we are going to see Shador Sanders against the starters
for the Carolina Panthers in live action preseason albeit, but
it's the best football we got right now.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
This is the best news out of Cleveland potentially all month.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Well, it depends on who's asking. I think it's terrible
news for Kenny Pickett and killing Gabriel.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Well, I had tweeted five foot eleven, Dylan Gabriel is
just killing me with the tape that I'm seeing, and
I just feel like Schadur's done to me outside of
we know the Cleveland Browns walls, nothing but what you
would want a leader to be. He's answering questions the
right way. He's showing up early, he's leaving late, he's
(03:55):
getting in extra reps and I would toss it back
to you, Martin. Is this a guy if he didn't
go on Day three of the draft that we would
be expected to be in this Friday night slot QB one.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
I mean, there's a lot of people even though he
did go in the fifth round of the draft, I
expected this, But the reality is for me, at least,
this is how it works in the NFL. Like Shador Sanders,
I'm not gonna say was always going to get this opportunity,
because that's that's not true. But guys every single year
(04:32):
win and lose jobs because somebody else got hurt. It's
just the way of this game. In fact, just as
Drew Bledsoe if he spins out of bounds instead of
taking that shot from mo Lewis.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Have we ever heard of Tom Brady? Is there a.
Speaker 5 (04:48):
Better guy offspring of the man stay ready so you
don't have to get ready? Then Shadur. Honestly, I'm rooting
for him. It seems like a lot of the media
is maybe going to Costan's opposite. I want nothing but
this man to prove everyone wrong because really, as he's
alluded to Martin, this is what he did at multiple
(05:10):
phases of his college career. It does seem like oh
Red Carpett was laid out for him. If you really
go into the weeds. He continued to progress, so that's
why he didn't waiver based off the depth chart over
the last few weeks, and here he is, and I
think he's gonna come in calm, cool and collective, a
lot like his personality. And I think he's gonna impress Friday.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
What say you?
Speaker 4 (05:30):
Well, I it depends because if you look at the report,
So you look at the reports that have been coming out,
some of them said he's a little alble Breer said
he was kind of like behind schedule, seemingly like he
was way behind. That's why he hadn't gotten reps with
the ones. Then Mary Kay Cabot came out just most recently.
She's also the one who initially broke the story that
Shador Sanders was going to be getting this start. Mary
(05:52):
Kay has been covering the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Since movie Dick was a Guppy.
Speaker 4 (05:59):
Now become Klon Browns for a very very long time,
and she was saying that, you know, the stats in
training camp are really reflective of how he's been playing,
and we're not there.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
We're not there to see it.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
We're not well, we're pulling all these clips from training
camp and using them as referendums, and it's ultimately it
very much feels like summer league basketball, where if you
like the guy going in, you'd be like, oh, man,
did you see such and such at twenty five? He
did like a guy going in, Oh did you see
he was eight for twenty? Like you know what I mean, Like,
why isn't he dominating?
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But I mean, if you're Stefanski, are you doing the
same exact rollout on Friday? I know everyone's banged up,
but let's say they weren't. Would would this be Shadur
coming in?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
I don't think so, No, shot, I don't think so
one bit.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
My whole thing the whole time, Martin has been this
is the number one most accurate quarterback in FBS. Coming
into the draft, nothing but Dogden dragged with his name
when all he did was go out and ball in Colorado,
turned around a program. Oh by the way, and the
other guy we know that got drafted, I called him
(07:09):
in the prep with rob this the Van Wilder at
college football. We already know what Dylan Gabriel was he
is a gunslinger, but to me, he's a little more
of a college quarterback than he is an NFL quarterback.
And what Kenny Pickett's on his third club already and
Flacco's a cul de sac father of three. I think
the answer is easy for Friday Night. It's just how
we got to this conclusion was obviously very unique.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
And so I think that's the one.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And we'll talk about another thing that I think the
NFL media is just flatly wrong about. We'll talk about
that in just about ten more minutes, but right now,
this is one that I think the media is really
wrong about in terms of shadure view, because.
Speaker 2 (07:48):
I agree with everything you said. I watched him to college.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
I thought he was gonna be the first quarterback taken
up until maybe two weeks before the draft and it
was like, no, cam Ward's going number one for sure. Yeah,
And then I was like, all right, well, you know,
I think he's got a shot to go second round.
You know what I'm saying. That's where I thought your
door was going. He got drafted in the fifth row.
But none of that matters anymore, does it. Your draft
(08:11):
position is irrelevant. You're on the team and now you
have an opportunity to make the team. Because right now
a lot of the question is will Shador Sanders make
the roster. I think some of that is overblown, but
it's a valid question to be had.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Now here's the rub. Would you have gotten this opportunity
if everybody was healthy?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:33):
But they're not. So you do so now what? Now?
What are you going to do?
Speaker 5 (08:38):
You do the only thing you know how to do, baby,
you ball.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
And if you go out there and you show essentially
the world what you feel like you can do, then
that makes this competition a lot more difficult to have
a conversations behind closed doors. If Shador goes out there
(09:02):
and he's checking at the line, he's got his offensive
line protections right, he's checking into the right place, and
then it is accurate and on time and making the
right decisions with the ball and all of that right right,
and he comes out there, then you see. Because here's
the other thing about this, we aren't going to see
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more than likely Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, nor Joe Flacco
in this preseason game, So there will be no highlights
of those guys. What we will see is Shador if
he comes out and impresses, then it'll be well, he's
better than those guys sight unseen, well of what those
other guys even look like.
Speaker 5 (09:43):
You know, it's a great point. What's interesting about the
mechanics of the Browns is they have a great defense,
and they've had, at least for years, a solid running game.
This is Shadar coming in and being a game manager
and peppering in, in my humble opinion, a little bit
of his improvised skills because he does his ability to
extend plays. He does have the athleticism. Is there anything
(10:03):
in particular he could do Friday night to move up
the depth chart?
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I think what he does Friday night to move up
the depth chart? If he does besides the number one
thing staying healthy, sure, I think the more he shows
a mastery of the offense. From what I'm reading and
hearing from Browns camp, it is something it's like the
pre snap checks. It's like making sure that they're in
(10:31):
the right look versus this defensive look verst that defensive look.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Verse two high, show verse one high. What are you
seeing that?
Speaker 4 (10:39):
This the pre snap They look one high and they
rotate actually to cover six or cover four or whatever.
Right like, are you seeing what the defense is doing
and then as a result, getting the offense in the
right position. That's what's gonna impress me more than you
know if shador Like steps out of three sacks and
throws a touchdown. Yeah, because that's consistent and that's not
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probably gonna be happening when you're when Miles Garrett won't
be chasing him.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
But when you know TJ. Watt is chasing him around
the edge.
Speaker 5 (11:11):
It's interesting because he does come under center with a
team that's had virtually no leadership for how many years
and how many times have they fumbled the quarterback position?
So to me, I think Sadur yes, can he do
the quarterback in tangibles to impress Shore? I'd actually like
him to see. I'd like to see a little bit
of leadership that's maybe not in the game plan. That's
(11:34):
something that I feel is what he does naturally. I
genuinely believe what say you that he is a natural
born leader, and that's why I love the fit in Cleveland.
Dylan Gabriel as a leader of men doesn't jump off
the board. Pickett is a certified backup in this league,
or he wouldn't have been already moved around, and Flacco's
on hole eighteen.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
The only guy, in my opinion, who has the capable
ability to be the franchise quarterback for Cleveland for any
extended period of time.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
It should do it.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
I'm in lockstep with.
Speaker 4 (12:07):
Now, do I think it'll happen, that's a different question.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
But of the.
Speaker 4 (12:11):
Guys listed on this do you know we've ran through
them a few times now, chaud Door is the only
one that has a shot.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
I'd say is maybe a twenty percent shot.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
But I'll say this, this is his his first best
shot to put out the best possible impression.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
This is his first best shot.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
Okay, look, yeah, you're and you are in a a what.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
The ring around? What is that game?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Oh my goodness, no musical chairs the game of musical chairs.
There's three chairs and there's four quarterbacks. Right, That's that's
the game in Cleveland.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:49):
We're asking if Shador Sanders gonna get cut. You know
what would.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Solve a lot of problems.
Speaker 4 (12:54):
If Shador Sanders goes out there and plays really well
and then you know, because you know what, we saw
quarterbacks start games last year. That's a Matthew Stafford is
week to week with the back injury. Rams got two
first round picks next year. I don't think they trade
a first round pick for Shador Standers, but maybe there's
some level like Shador goes out there, plays well in
(13:15):
Week one of the preseason. Hey, Cleveland, I can solve
your quarterback problem for you. I'll take a fourth row.
I'll trade you Shador Sanders for a fourth rounder.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
Well, let me ask you, because if you're a Cleveland
Browns fan, let's just sit in that world for a second.
You leut everyone down with the Watson signing without hesitation,
and you really haven't solved the quarterback puzzle post Mayfield,
if for call it what it is, I already laid
out what the other three are. We don't know what
Schadur ISAs. Wouldn't you think it'd be adventatious management owners,
(13:47):
even Stefanski in locks up to give the fans this look.
I just think they owe it to the Cleveland fans
to give a potential, real look at what could be
a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Well, whether it's owed or not, is what they're going
to get.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
So so what they're going to get on Friday coming
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it wrong, and those people who actually put on pads
and helmets and all of that, they got it right
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Speaker 4 (16:07):
Alex, because I'm about to dip my toe into waters
that uh, I'll be talking about a lot of people
I know personally, talk.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
About a lot of people that follow a lot of
people who honestly, you know, I honestly have a lot
of respect for them.
Speaker 5 (16:23):
You're going shallow in here. You jump it right in
the deep end.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You said tip a toe Michael Phelps. Wow, So.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
There has been a pluriferation in the last ten years
or so as media became more accessible. There's more microphones,
more cameras that there's more and more people that wanted
to talk about football, and the amount of people who
played football didn't like grow.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4 (16:50):
It was like, so, so now you found a bunch
of people like you and me who want to talk
about football, never played football, where nobody cared about us
playing football.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Right, you probably were higher on the fifty three man
then I played in the fifth quarter of famous If.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
It went to the fifteen hundredth and third man, then
maybe right, But That's about where I'm at at. And
so you have a bunch of guys like me talking
from what team to be places of authority on football.
But really a lot of times were giving our opinions
and we present them as fact. And this opinion has
been presented as fact in the media, and I am
seeing it pushed back on a ton this offseason, and
(17:28):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (17:29):
I'm dying out.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (17:30):
I'm dying out.
Speaker 4 (17:31):
What it is you can't play your starners in the preseason?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Why would you do that.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
They're gonna let your guys get hurt in a meaningless
football game.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Oh the horror.
Speaker 4 (17:45):
We're seeing starters across the board playing in these preseason games,
and I'm here to tell you I love it.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Now. Does everybody need to play in the preseason?
Speaker 1 (17:55):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:56):
Matthew Stafford's thirty seven years old, he's been playing football since.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Like his football career as.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
A driver's license. He can week to week. How about this,
see you week one. The doctor could put see you
week one on the on the prescription and I'd be
all right, cool, good, good to go. But like the
other day, Bryce Young was not playing in preseason.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Ga, what are we doing? Like? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (18:17):
Do I need to see Josh Allen playing the preseason?
I'll tell you what, Josh, how do you feel? You
want a series? You want two series, you want no series?
Whatever you like? Pat, what do you think? Same deal? Lamar,
what do you think? But like some people like Seattle Darnold,
get out there, buddy. Yeah, you're our star, you're our
(18:38):
franchise quarterback. This is our first time, this is your
first time take I want the first time you take
the offense on my team to be a.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Dress rehearsal, not real live bullets flying.
Speaker 5 (18:48):
Well, it's it's an interesting point. You make a great case.
I guess we'd push back a little on is it
has to be team by team?
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Right?
Speaker 5 (18:58):
We get the seniors on campus, which at this point
does include a lot of who you mentioned, even a
Burrow a Lamar not necessary? Where are we though, I'll
throw it to you since this is your thought. I'm
like a bow knicks at Jayden Daniels. I need to
second year guys.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
I'd like to see those guys, and I'll be honest.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
Listen, you look back from Zack Taylor from twenty nineteen
when he has started being the Cincinnati Bengals head coach.
They have the worst record in the NFL in weeks
one and two. Joey Burrows might need to get out
there and throw something over there to Jamar Chase real quick,
just to get on the right page.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
Isn't it interesting? Because I asked you in between commercial
it was Sean McVay that kind of started and spearheaded this.
I don't want my oh, but Sean mcfhan is a
phonographic memory and is a He's a one of one
coach as far as his recollection and how he coaches.
I don't see another guy running his program like McVeigh
(19:57):
and let me throw it. You throw this to you.
Because basketball is a game of confidence, in a game
of runs. To your thought, football is a game of choreography.
How are you in sync if you're not playing the
first couple of weeks. The worry, of course, though, is
when you have turnover and you have young guys. What
is the happy medium from younger dudes that still have
(20:19):
to prove themselves. But then you also want to preserve
of course, their health, which you still have to push
back on to some regard.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
But here's the thing, like, okay, that's as soon as
a guy gets hurt this weekend playing in a preseason game,
because football is a game of if, when you get hurt,
if you get hurt. But when a guy gets hurt
this weekend, there will be a cavalcade of tweets saying,
oh my goodness, somebody got hurt in the meaningless preseason game.
(20:48):
What do you think they're doing Monday through Friday? What
do you think is happening in joint practices? Tidley winks checkers.
They're playing football practice in football, they are tackling each other.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
They are hitting each other.
Speaker 4 (21:04):
And simply because it is happening in a joint practice,
the do mitigation of injury cannot be as such that
it matters that much between playing it in a preseason
game versus a joint practice.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
Like, sure, you're.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Actually hitting the quarterback in a preseason game, understood, Guess
what happens in real games though your quarterback actually gets hit.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
I don't agree that.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Your quarterback is needs to get hit Monday through Friday,
but guess what your offensive lineman probably should block Monday
through Friday.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:34):
I guess if you're talking from a fighting perspective, is
it's sparring in the ring at practice versus all right,
this is gonna be an exhibition. It's not gonna count
on your record, but you're gonna fight in front of fans.
There's something to be said about performing versus practicing in
this thought, and I think you're onto something, and I
think you're on the right side of it. But we
(21:56):
are in a load management era across sports. That's why
I'm kind of working with you on what is the
happy medium? Because back in the day, we're old enough
to back in the day. When are the starters coming in?
They're coming in the middle of the preseason, right and
continuing to get more and more reps, almost a half worth,
et cetera.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
And so out.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
We watched a Hall of Fame game Gofston Street close.
No problem there, But I asked you off air too,
JJ McCarthy, what did you say to me?
Speaker 4 (22:23):
I need I think it's a good idea that he's
playing in a preseason I need to see it. And
speaking of need to see it, there's another guy with
some of these training camp reports that we need to
see it and in this preseason game.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
But it needs to look good.
Speaker 4 (22:39):
Because yikes, but somebody who needs no preseason Steve to say.
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Speaker 4 (22:56):
Steve, have you kept any eyes on this Twins Tigers game?
Speaker 7 (23:00):
Did something happen mister Detroit?
Speaker 4 (23:03):
I'm just the Tigers have only scored in this inning,
and the only reason they have scored is because Twins
outfielders have dropped multiple fly balls like the.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Runs are earned. But I'm just saying it run is earned.
I should say, listen, I'm sitting there washingt them. That's
a drop.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
If they're playing football, they'd be like, you should have
caught that ball.
Speaker 7 (23:25):
I have seen the Dodgers outfield defense this year. A
fully agree, and it's just this is just fast.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
This is how you can really tell the big gap
between Triple A well and major leaguers because traded everybody and.
Speaker 7 (23:39):
It was literally ten or eleven guys off the major
league roster that the Twins traded away in the past week.
May you, in fact, Alex could talk about this. Do
you remember it wasn't that many years ago when there
was a season the Padres were fielding essentially a Triple
A team.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
For most of the year.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Oh, I remember, Steve, it was.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
It was let's just say noticeable.
Speaker 4 (24:01):
Absolutely. I mean, it's just this ending should have ended
well before your updates started and it's still going. But
all right, Martin Weiss, Alex Monico in for Rob Parker
and Calvin Washington on a trash talking Tuesday. We will
do trash talking Tuesday. At what time do we do
trash talking Tuesday? There we go seven eight forty five,
(24:23):
eight forty five eight forty five five.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Forty five Pacific.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
We will give you the opportunity to trash whoever you'd
like to in the world of sports, and maybe it's
time to trash this guy. Reports from Jets camp have
been dire. Justin Fields is putting out as Jalen Royal
was once said about a shooting percentage tour dates instead
(24:50):
of completion percentage. I saw four for thirteen floating around.
I saw like a June seventeenth floating around. You know,
it's not been great reports from Jets camp about how
Justin Fields is, particularly his complete percentage. The passing seems
to be lacking. The big issue. Justin Fields plays quarterback
(25:11):
for the Jets.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Listen, that's New York media for you. I'm in it.
It is going to be in Jets camp proved to
me this is the guy because Bears fans, even Steelers fans,
have something to say about jf Now, you and I
I think we're on the right side here. I'm a
believer in Justin Fields. Are you writing a ton off
(25:38):
from these these August takeaways from camp? I think you
gotta give him some grace, Martin. He just got the town.
Speaker 4 (25:46):
It's interesting because when I first read these and Rob
g kind of poked my brain about it, I thought,
it really reminds me of a lot of this stuff
I'm hearing out of Bears camp, and I think differently,
not just because Ben Johnson and air Aaron Glenn both
came from Detroit, but more the messaging around the quarterback.
(26:07):
And the only time that Aaron Glenn has not been
just head over heels, fully throated in his defense of
Justin Fields is when Justin Fields dislocated his toe, in which.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
He was like, we'll be fine with Tyrod.
Speaker 4 (26:20):
And I get it in that moment, because in that moment,
you're projecting, you know, strength to your team, and you
know sky is not falling. You cannot say, oh, well,
Justin Fields is done, so our season is done.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
I thought Justin.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
Fields should have started for Pittsburgh until they started to lose.
I thought he was I thought that Pittsburgh had found
an effective way to use Justin Fields offensively.
Speaker 5 (26:43):
Ironically, let me throw it right back to you. The
mechanics of Steeers football is gonna be, in my humble opinion,
very similar to what Aaron Glenn wants to accomplish in
New York built inside out, have strong trenches, ideally on
both sides, but certainly on the defensive side. And then
(27:03):
let's not forget we got deck the halls at running
back brease and a competent, moving in the right direction
offensive line that was in turmoil when Rogers was there.
All Fields needs to do is what he did in Pittsburgh,
which was win games, manage games, and uses athleticism when needed.
Speaker 4 (27:19):
And that's the thing I think, Okay, justin Fields, to me,
it seems evident through watching him play, watching tape so on,
he either does not trust it or does not see
it a lot. If if first guy is covered, it
doesn't seem that he is rotating through the defense, moving
through his progressions. It doesn't seem like that it's something
(27:41):
that he is actively doing at a high level. And
I think it kind of caught up to him in
Pittsburgh a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:46):
And I think ultimately it will.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
It is what will stop him from being an elite
or even top top anything quarterback, sure, right, but what
I do think is his speed and athleticism in today's NFL,
where you're c teams winning super Bowls with Jalen Hurts
(28:11):
and being successful with like the likes of obviously Lamar
Jackson has souped up version, but like the quarterback that
can move is something that really helps along the way
of moving your offense.
Speaker 2 (28:23):
I think, okay, I.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
Will essuee some of Justin Field's completion percentage some of
my third down limitations with the idea that on third
and six he might just tuck it and get me ten.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Right.
Speaker 4 (28:34):
I think that's valuable, especially at a team like the
Jets in a division like the AFC East, because if
you just look around the division, Miami is a dumpster fire.
I think Mike McDaniels got a great got a great
shot to be first coach fired. Tyreek Hill can't stop talking,
and it's just been worse and worse every time. He
was better when he wasn't paying any attention. All Right,
(28:57):
The Bills are the Bills, you know. I don't expect
to see a major drop off from them. And then
even what a major drop off from them will be
with nine wins, do you know what I mean? There's
still like a major drop off and them will be
flirting with five hundred. So I don't think that they're
going anywhere in the relevancy of this conversation and the
other wild card in the division or the unknown in
the division. I should say the Patriots another new head coach,
(29:21):
not a first year this time, but a new head
coach in Mike Vrabel. You look roster to roster, Patriots
added a lot of free agents, did a lot in
the draft, boosted up front. I think the Jets skilled
players are better than the Patriots skilled players.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Skilled players in New York have been above par around
the league. This is set up for a quarterback two
plug and play.
Speaker 8 (29:45):
Now.
Speaker 5 (29:45):
Of course Tanner the passing game coordinator by way of
the Lions coming in as oc here with ag coming
from Detroit. So we'll see out what kind of in particular,
and we'll know more once we see preseason action curated
game plan he has around field. But tossing it back
to you, Martin, this is a guy who had a
mountain of pressure in Chicago, who was on really a
(30:07):
pitch count in Pittsburgh because Russ was kind of promised
he was going to get that role, win healthy. Now
he comes to New York, a place that has no
patience from a Jets pov with we need to win now.
But We're also in year one Aaron Glenn's program.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
I don't think that the Jets are in and we
need to win now. Mo, you don't think I don't think.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
It's New York baby. We got no talk, all right,
So yeah, sure I get it. The back page is
the pressure is so hard.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Yeah, that's why the whole win now has really worked
for any New York team in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
But uh, but I just I don't. It doesn't feel
like that to me.
Speaker 4 (30:45):
I think that Aaron Glenn is not necessarily getting a
there's there's a honeymoon period of sorts. I think with
Aaron Glenn right now, I put it to you like this,
Aaron Glenn said today or yesterday that his big move
to get the Jets to stop committing so many penalties
is to.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
Have officials at practice.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Officials at practice is something that has been going on
for in my NFL. Nowed's at least a decade. Right,
That's not new. That's not new at all. If Robert
Sala had said that last year at this time of year,
people would have been making fun of him for it
would have been doing laps everywhere, making how much fun
they would have been making of him for saying, oh,
(31:26):
now you think of it, Aaron Glenn says it today.
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Okay, well you know, let's see how it works.
Speaker 5 (31:31):
Well, you're drawing parallels to Caleb and Ben Johnson in Chicago.
Who do you think is under a shorter leash of
we need to win now, Bears camp with Ben Johnson
and Caleb or Jets camp with Justin and Eric.
Speaker 2 (31:45):
No, that answers to the Bears. It's not even close.
Speaker 5 (31:48):
See, because I feel on the New York side, this
team was built with championship expectations. With Rogers, they just
had the quarterback not meshed with the head coach. Now
it's obviously a flirting phase where we see, let's see
if Justin Fields is this guy. I just don't know
how Aaron Glenn comes in and completely blows us unless
(32:11):
Justin Fields reverts back to maybe he needs to go
get a little Jamis Winston Lasik if you will, and
he truly cannot see open receivers because they're, to your
point earlier, are so above average at key skill position
spots working on the offensive line. I've seen it in
the last two years. I think the pressure is on
(32:32):
the Jets even though the Bears fans have been waiting
since Rex Grossman to get back.
Speaker 4 (32:37):
Here's where You're wrong, Here's where you're roll first with
Caleb Williams. All right, Rob g I'll tell you where
you're wrong. Coming up, let's go.
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Alex Monico En did last segment talking about the Jets.
You were saying, you know, you want to give me
a thirty second recap of your spiel of why the
Jets should be successful because of the team that were
building with Rodgers.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
Well, I think why they would have been successful with Rogers?
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Well, you think that team and then the team would
be successful this year? Go for Yeah.
Speaker 5 (34:38):
I thought they had a lot of the infrastructure, correct.
I thought the offensive line year one with Rogers was
not buttoned up like year two where they made a
little more of a push to lock in the offensive line.
But this was it was a top three pasty coming
in from Rogers year one, but they had pieces in
place to be able to I think with a quarterback
(34:58):
make some noise. The problem is they haven't gotten quarterback
right since what back in the Mark Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (35:03):
Well, I thought they had pieces in place the Jets.
That's why they fired everybody.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Well solo.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
This is the problem in our league, Martin. There's more.
The maturation of the of the head coach, obviously is
a promotion from coordinator often to head coach. Robert Salah
is an unbelievable defensive coach. He had no business being
the head coach of that particular team. I already see
(35:29):
shades of Aaron Glenn's leadership I didn't see in two
New York winters under Salah. And what did you say
on our show the other week when Rogers and Salah
had a chance to embrace, they pushed each other away.
Ag And there's something to say about it. Played in
this league, played in that town, in that locker room.
He knows how to coach up players. Fields hasn't had
(35:54):
a place where I feel he has even been properly
coached up. Now we got a shot for both things
to be in line in the same time.
Speaker 4 (36:03):
We got a shot kind of the same way I
can go to the liquor store and buy a lot
of reticket. I got a shot to retire. But you know,
I think both of these things have about the same
shot of happening. Dabo Sweeney said yesterday. In twenty eighteen,
we were the first fifteen and OL team in the
history of major college football. And I think we're gonna
(36:25):
be the first sixteen inn o team. It's a race
to do that. I'm here to tell you, Bolt, I'm
here to tell you we have had the last undefeated
college football national champion. Wow, there will not be another.
There will not be another. We have had the last one.
It was the University of Michigan with their twenty two seniors. No, seriously,
(36:49):
because here's how can you be so confident, Because here's
the thing. Nobody's gonna come back like that. Nobody is
going to continue to stay at the same school. Even
last year with the Ohio State, right, how many guys
did they have that could have went pro that return
to come back to school a ton? But Michigan that
(37:11):
the year that Michigan did, they had nearly every single player.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Of note, you.
Speaker 5 (37:15):
Don't think nil is gonna make like a quinn Ewers,
who arguably could make more in college this year if
he stayed then going to play for backup two in
Miami no, sure, quarterback, Well, that could be conducive to
running it back and running the table at sixteen and ho.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
But quarterback.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
But if I am a left tackle, worth the damn
I'm going to the league. But also, I think it's
you're also competing with just in terms of the college
football level, Bill Belichick. Just go to ACC and just oh,
here I go, I just popped your left tackle. Let
me get that.
Speaker 5 (37:45):
So you're saying, just it's mini, it's junior NFL now,
and nobody goes on the FELD.
Speaker 4 (37:50):
Nobody goes undefeated in the I guess nobody expects anybody
to go undefeated in the NFL.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Well, I mean, if you're looking at Troy Georgia Tech
Syracuse right after Brian Kelly, who can't show up for
a big game since he got to LSU, then maybe
all right, we're off to a at least first month
of winning football for the Clemson time.
Speaker 3 (38:07):
No.
Speaker 4 (38:07):
I mean, I think Clemson will win a ton of games.
I think they'll win the ACC. But the idea of
sixteen and oh, I don't buy it. I think that
you're gonna have to schedule in this iteration of college football,
especially where you could play Texas Ohio State week one,
and it will have zero implication on whether one of
those teams can play for a national championship. Like it'll
(38:28):
take multiple losses outside of that for it to happen.
You'll have to now schedule to be ready for the postseason.
You have Tennessee went to Ohio State and got molly wopped,
not only because oh I'll say, was that much better because.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Tennessee hadn't played a game above Missouri since nineteen ninety six.
Tell them, do you know what I'm saying. It's like,
you're gonna have to schedule differently.
Speaker 4 (38:47):
We've seen the last one the University of Michigan and
Jim Harbaugh.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
Wow, so bullshit, it's over.
Speaker 5 (38:53):
I'll do it. I'll do a gentleman's mat with your
ten years here over under nine a half years. I'll
take the over they under.
Speaker 2 (39:00):
Excuse me, I'm not going there will never be another.
Speaker 5 (39:03):
You're just you're wearing a Michigan Jim Robbie, he's wearing
a Michigan sweater.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Speaking of I went to college longer than this guy,
barely
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