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Speaker 5 (01:34):
With all that said, let me welcome to my partner.
Speaker 6 (01:37):
Rob Parker. What's up man? What's happened to mister Chris Bushard?
How are you?
Speaker 4 (01:41):
I'm well, I'm well, looking forward to a nice weekend
and a great show tonight.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
Unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
And then there were six we're counting down the Chrismas
sord countdown.
Speaker 7 (01:52):
I feel like Casey Kaseam. Anybody know who that is?
Casey Kaseum America's top forty. Come on, man, he was
I top forty. Yeah, iconic, iconic. What a great voice?
Speaker 6 (02:06):
Chris? All right, what what cartoon character did he play?
Speaker 8 (02:10):
Here?
Speaker 6 (02:10):
The quiz? Chris, give me a hit? There was a
dog involved? Dog involved? Come on, Clifford. Who's the biggest dog?
Come on?
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Chris at TV had a cartoon for forty years, the
biggest dog going.
Speaker 4 (02:29):
I'm thinking Tom and Jerry, but obviously they weren't dogs.
I know I'm gonna probably be ticked off when you
say it, but.
Speaker 6 (02:40):
Oh, Scooby, dude, that was no he was shaggy. Wow,
that's Casey.
Speaker 5 (02:47):
Shaggy. Now that you say it, I can hear it
a little. That's shaggy. He wasn't that voice.
Speaker 6 (02:51):
He was the we smoking.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Munchies, you know, like back then, you know like that
that show was something else.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
But for any other big names on this, no, I
think he was the only one. But it was Casey
case Wow. And I'm sure he made a ton of
money from that that thing.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Are you kidding? Like if we had residuals.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
That that's been in reruns forever and all the movies
that were you know, a couple of movies made off
of it.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (03:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I mean he's passed, but his family or whoever you
know has the estate or whatever.
Speaker 6 (03:19):
All right, Yeah, we got a great.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Short senseless information. Chris, That's what I'm you know, that's
what you're gonna miss. You're gonna call me up.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
You'll be at dinner and you'll be like, who played
Hazel on the on TV show?
Speaker 6 (03:32):
And I'll be like, it.
Speaker 5 (03:33):
Was Shirley Booth.
Speaker 6 (03:34):
Chris was surely Booth.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
That's another one, and again, haven't seen it in decade.
Used to watch it, though, I can't imagine Rob that
that's actually a good show.
Speaker 6 (03:45):
No, there's no way I could imagine. I watched it
I watched it.
Speaker 4 (03:49):
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Speaker 6 (04:07):
Who's in? Who's in the story with me?
Speaker 5 (04:10):
All right? All right? And on the ones and two's
none other than.
Speaker 6 (04:19):
Why Your Bug?
Speaker 1 (04:20):
And now Mary saying that I owed her pizza? Was
I supposed to bring in a pizza?
Speaker 6 (04:26):
You are? Okay? Then why not? She's mad at me?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I think because I went to that Like, oh, I
sound like you went to Magic City.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
And I didn't bring her, so she wants a pizza.
I think you didn't take her to Magic I wrying
to go Why why not? She just wanted I mean,
I don't know what you do, but I mean I
don't know. Some women do go.
Speaker 5 (04:51):
To clubs like that.
Speaker 6 (04:52):
Oh yeah, I'm not trying to go to a club
like that. Men have. Yeah, yeah, there's live experiences you
can have.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
But yeah, if dudes just don't do that, Rob, I
don't think they just rolled it, like.
Speaker 6 (05:04):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (05:05):
With a bunch of bunch of brothers, you know, in
the raw. But whatever, hey, teachers own all right, let's
get started, Rob, And last night you and I have
both picked the Baltimore Ravens not only to reach the
Super Bowl, but to win it.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
Of course. Uh, they gotta go.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Through the Kansas City Chiefs, the two time defending champions,
and last night, for the second straight time, they fell
to the Chiefs last year, of course, in the AFC
title game. Last night, in the opening game of the season,
and twenty seven to twenty good games literally went down to.
Speaker 5 (05:48):
The last play, and.
Speaker 4 (05:52):
In a game of inures, Rob, the Ravens lost, or
at least had the chance to you know, lost the
chance to win it or tie it.
Speaker 6 (06:00):
Gonna go for to, didn't you see?
Speaker 5 (06:01):
Yeah, yeah, we're gonna go for to, which I liked.
Speaker 6 (06:03):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
I don't like that A nice situation. Absolutely, You're you're
you're on the road, Chris. You you were underdogs anyway.
If you score that touchdown, uh right, with with no
time left on the clock or whatever, and then you
get a chance to to just win it and walk away,
I'm with.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
That because you gotta win it in overtime anyway. Go
for your best chance. That's the chance where you have
a you can win it and they don't get a chance.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
See That's what I'm saying now that that's not like
it's all the calls that we saw with uh the
Chargers coach, you know like that, like or no, no,
like that.
Speaker 6 (06:38):
That's a logical go for it. You have nothing to lose, Chris.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
Absolutely absolutely, And I had this great line in a
game of inches.
Speaker 5 (06:48):
They literally lost by an inch, you know.
Speaker 6 (06:51):
So, wow, you're a writer once. Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
Okay, So what are your thoughts uh?
Speaker 4 (06:58):
On the I want to ask you two questions, and
I think the second one will be what we really discussed.
But does this discourage you in your pick of the
Ravens to win the AFC? And what do you think
of Lamar Jackson's performance? Because it was all over the place,
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good and bad.
Speaker 6 (07:19):
Yeah. No, I'm not discouraged at all.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I mean I saw stuff that can be cleaned up
and they can do better. Five formation penalties, Chris, like five.
I've been watching football for forty years. I cannot recall again.
Speaker 6 (07:35):
It was three?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
What two or three on the first possession.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
But I'm just saying in a game Chris, like you football,
when's the last time you saw five formation penalty?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well, I tell you the last time I saw a
lot of them was last year with the Chiefs with
Jawaan Taylor.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
I mean, you know, at.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
The beginning of the year, RIB teams, you know, or
I should say, the officials in the league, you know,
they want to stress certain rules, and they've told the
teams they were stressing that rule, you know, as far
as the tackles, because what it was was tackles were
lined up incorrectly according.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
To the rules at least, but the coaches need to
make an adjustment to get that showed it out. All
I'm saying is like, like there was stuff that they
could clean up. Obviously, he lost the fumble which resulted
in points I believe no well field goal field.
Speaker 6 (08:24):
Goal right points. So that was the situation, and I
give him credit after.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
They didn't get when Mahomes' pass was battered and Mahomes
wound up getting it back, that was a great opportunity
if they would have got the ball there. It didn't happen,
but they still held on to stop them a couple
of times Chris defensively early in the game, where the
Chiefs could have.
Speaker 6 (08:48):
Blown them out.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
They got two field goals where the Chiefs were really
in a good spot.
Speaker 5 (08:54):
Lamar's fumbled. They got the ball at.
Speaker 4 (08:56):
The fourteen right and only got When do you stop
the Chiefs get first?
Speaker 5 (09:00):
Intended your own four That's.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
What I'm saying. Chris like things like that. I like that.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And even though he missed the receiver in the end zone,
like that was weird because he was open and I
don't know if he was expecting him to stop or
keep running or whatever, but then he still comes back
to throw and none of the guy's foots on the line.
Speaker 6 (09:20):
I get it, Chris, and they.
Speaker 5 (09:22):
Review it was it was a great It was you know,
it was the right.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
But he still delivered that ball, which could have easily
been the game tying touchdown in that situation. So I
like the way they finished the game. They didn't roll over.
They didn't feel like they couldn't win. You're on the road,
you were a three point underdog.
Speaker 6 (09:43):
It was there.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
It was there, and I did like some of the
stuff that I saw, so I wasn't And of course
he had one hundred yards rushing one hundred and someone
George passing who was the only other two.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Hundred and seventy something pass.
Speaker 4 (09:54):
He's the first person ever, first player ever to throw
for two hundred fifty or more yards and run for
one hundred or more yards in a season opener, first
player ever.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
So so when you say a season opener, somebody did
it in another game.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Yeah, it must have, because that's what they were saying,
was the season open.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
You know, like to me that that doesn't like if
somebody's done it before, what does it matter what game
it is?
Speaker 6 (10:18):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Like, I didn't know it isn't you know, No, But
I would rather know like that twenty people have done
it or two people.
Speaker 6 (10:26):
It makes a big difference to me.
Speaker 5 (10:27):
Well, I'm sure twenty haven't. But I don't know. I
don't know what.
Speaker 6 (10:30):
That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I got.
Speaker 6 (10:31):
I wasn't discouraged.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
I'm with you in that everything was going for the Chiefs.
They were playing at home, they had Banner Night and
all the adrenaline that comes from celebrating your Super Bowl victory.
They have less roster turnover than the Ravens, less coaching
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staff turnover than the Ravens, who lost their defensive coordinator
and whose offensive line coach passed away unfortunately within the
last few weeks, and so everything was going for the Chiefs,
and the Chiefs I think have a better roster. That's
almost darn near unanimous that they have a better roster
(11:21):
than the one that just won the Super Bowl. So
they had everything going for them, and to your point,
the Ravens again took them to the very last play.
Speaker 6 (11:31):
And look, some people say this.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Is just who the Ravens are. I don't think that's
who they are. But if it is, they got, you know,
a few months to clean it up.
Speaker 9 (11:42):
Rob.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
They in the AFC Championship game and last night have
so many self inflictations.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
I'm with you, Chris and Rob.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
I'm like, and I know you agree with this.
Speaker 4 (11:56):
If I lose a game or anything, if I lose
in anything, I would rather it be due to things
I can control and I can correct.
Speaker 5 (12:06):
Then if they just.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Beat me, they could have because the Chiefs could have
just man handled them. That's when you look at it
and go, oh, they got no shot to beat this team.
Speaker 6 (12:14):
I don't feel like that.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Even in the game as polly as they playing the
AFC Chimp Michigan, they didn't get.
Speaker 4 (12:21):
Chris, they didn't robbed last night. You mentioned the penalties.
But here's the thing with the Chiefs. I mean, we
know that is a great offense, and but here look
at this. You mentioned stopping them or at least farcing them.
The field goals deepened in a Raven territory. Think of
(12:42):
the three touchdowns. They had two field goals and three
touchdowns the Chiefs. One of the touchdowns the past catch
by Xavier Worthy for thirty five yards broken play or
broken coverage. I have to say, by the roads fixable.
He was correct. I mean, it was ridiculous. You could
have don't know what free. It was just a miscommunication,
(13:05):
like that's fixable exactly. And then now the Xavier's other touchdown,
the twenty one yard revert, that's just a great play
the Chiefs, great execution and his speed was just ridiculous.
Speaker 5 (13:17):
So that's just that happens. They're gonna score some legitimate touchdowns.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
But rob think about the other score when Isaiah Pacheco
scored from the one yard line to go up twenty
to ten. The Ravens had a roughing the passer penalty.
If they don't have that roughing the passer penalty, it
was second.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
And twenty and if they don't have that.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Penalty, it becomes third and twenty from the Ravens twenty eight.
Because of the penalty, they go first and ten from
their fourteen. So that would have, like you said, that
would have been a field goal. So two of the
three touchdowns for the Chiefs were you know, a lot
of it due to the Ravens just imploding and the
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Ravens they they they made too many mistakes. They did
it last year, they did it this year and they
have to clean that up.
Speaker 6 (14:12):
But that defense is still there, Chris, because it.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
Was good, but they got some they had some miscommunication.
Like we said, the blow but I'm saying the two
turned timeouts in the third quarter.
Speaker 1 (14:22):
But the holding them twice early in that game really
impressed kept them into in that game.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
So they just have to keep getting better. And I
want to talk more about Lamar. I haven't gotten to
say my piece as we go to the callers, but
they have to find a way to maximize both Lamar
and Derrick Henry because last night Lamar shined at points,
but Henry didn't really wasn't that much of a factor.
Speaker 5 (14:50):
After that first touchdown run in the first.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Quarter, so and early on I love what they were doing.
What you know, you fake it to Derek Henry? Well, right,
play actually, Chris, I mean what that should be a
staple of their arge.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
What did I say? It went away from it? They
went away from I was told Rob you I would
run that. Keep running it, Chris, Why would you stop
running it?
Speaker 5 (15:10):
How you're gonna figure?
Speaker 6 (15:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (15:12):
I totally agree. And Henry's a bell cow. He's used
to twenty twenty five carries a night and round. I
wasn't surprised or discouraged by the three and four yard
runs he had because that's what he does, and he
wears that defense down and then in the.
Speaker 5 (15:30):
Third or fourth quarter he may break a.
Speaker 6 (15:31):
Long run and Chris seventy five.
Speaker 5 (15:33):
They didn't give him a chance to do that.
Speaker 6 (15:35):
Percent of his yards are after contact, so you know that. Yeah,
well he.
Speaker 4 (15:39):
Was yeah last night. Yeah, he didn't do much after
that touchdown. But it's a long season. They got time
to correct these things we're talking about.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
All right, let's throw this out. I want to get
to Lamar later in the show, specifically Lamar.
Speaker 4 (15:53):
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Speaker 5 (16:00):
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Speaker 5 (16:08):
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Speaker 4 (16:10):
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The Ravens Robin and I picked him to make the
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super Bowl. We're not discouraged about their chances off of
last night's.
Speaker 5 (18:21):
Loss to the Chiefs.
Speaker 6 (18:23):
Should we be?
Speaker 4 (18:25):
What are your thoughts on the ravens chances of getting
to the super Bowl after what you saw last night?
Speaker 6 (18:31):
All right?
Speaker 1 (18:32):
Randy and New Orleans joined the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (18:35):
What's up Randy?
Speaker 11 (18:36):
Good evening, Chris and Rob.
Speaker 6 (18:38):
How y'all doing doing goodhead man? How are you?
Speaker 8 (18:40):
I'm done?
Speaker 11 (18:41):
While before I get to the question, I got a
be for Chris Bruce because I've been inviting y'all out
for gumbo for the super Bowl for the last couple
of months and he's leaving the show and ain't see none.
Speaker 4 (18:52):
Come on, Bruce, I said, I'm leaving the show Monday.
I announced in Monday officially. Yes, I'll be in New
warll US for the super Bowl. For Super Bowl Chris, okay,
so we can do that, Chris.
Speaker 11 (19:06):
Bruce sawad man. I appreciate you, says NBA Coast to
Coast man.
Speaker 12 (19:10):
Thank you you've been You've been a staple on TV,
and I god bless you in your uh and your future.
Speaker 8 (19:16):
Duble.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Thank you man, and go through rob. If we do
y'all want to do it, we'll do it.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Yeah, we're hooking up.
Speaker 11 (19:23):
We're hooking up, all right. Let me ask you our question.
Speaker 12 (19:27):
I'll say this because my parents live it right outside
of Baltimore, so I keep close eye on the Ravens.
I am discouraged just because it is Derrick Henry is
the guy you brought in to run the football and
to help Lamar, and now he was the one with
one hundred and twenty one and twenty five years last night.
Speaker 11 (19:46):
I be encouraged. But to me, it's just more. It's
just more the same. It's more the same.
Speaker 12 (19:51):
And you got to get Derry Henry more involved to
wear down that defense.
Speaker 11 (19:55):
Play action.
Speaker 12 (19:56):
Let Lamar pull the ball down and run and do
his thing later on the game.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
Right, But that can't be your focal point. Lamar can't
just keep doing He won't.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
Last and we're gonna talk about that. He took some
shots last night and he willingly took like he was
trying to run people over.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
What is he You can't do that?
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Our coaching staff is telling him that it ain't even
more the same because he used to slide, he used
to brace himself, he used to you know, move and
not take the run of the shot. Last night he
was trying to run people over. And he won't.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
Last half the season doing that.
Speaker 4 (20:34):
And if he does, he won't be as fast, he
won't be as fluid uh later in the season from
taking all those hits.
Speaker 12 (20:41):
So I got it that Yep, you gotta use there,
you gotta run that bell call. You gotta use Dery
Capsel and God bless you, thank you for the client.
Speaker 5 (20:49):
Thank you man.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Mike in Fresno, you're on the odd couple of Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
What's up, Mike?
Speaker 2 (20:56):
Hey?
Speaker 5 (20:56):
What up?
Speaker 8 (20:57):
Guys?
Speaker 6 (20:57):
How you doing?
Speaker 9 (21:00):
I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 8 (21:02):
Hey.
Speaker 9 (21:02):
I think you guys have to be a little discouraged.
And here's my take on this. You know, Lamar runs
for two reasons, design play and just to get loose,
because he has to run both our elite. Nobody questions
whether he is running his elite because he has to run.
That means your passing game is not elite. And until
they fix that and get a true number one and
(21:23):
he can sit back and well, looking at it this way,
they're passing game, not him, but the game itself. The
overall passing game does not appear elite, and so therefore
you're doing too much running until they stopped that, did
you last year?
Speaker 6 (21:38):
When way honest?
Speaker 1 (21:39):
Oh, go ahead right, say last week when they won,
when they went to San Francisco on Christmas and they
annihilated the forty nine ers. And I saw so many
games where the offense it doesn't have. Your offense is
about scoring points, isn't it?
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It is?
Speaker 11 (21:58):
It is.
Speaker 9 (21:59):
But at the end of the day, why did they
always come up short?
Speaker 6 (22:03):
I don't know the ball in the end zone. The
guys foot was on them.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Lamar's not an elite passer in my view. He's an
elite quarterback. He's an elite runner, and he's a good passer.
He's not a great passer. If he didn't have the
running game with his passing ability right now, he wouldn't
be elite.
Speaker 5 (22:21):
And that's why to me, that's why.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
They don't have an elite pass a game, because Lamar's
not an elite Patrick Mahomes Joe Burrow level passer. He's
a good passer, though, and the combination of that and
his running nobility can you know, makes him elite, but
last night it was just I wouldn't say in balance
like you said, Rob. They threw forty one times, but
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he can't run. He can't run. He can run that much,
but he can't run in traffic the way he was
in my view, all right, Sean Kings around the corner.
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We're live from the tie rack dot Com studios.
Speaker 4 (23:07):
Our next guest, former NFL quarterback now Fox Sports Radio NFL,
and this friend of.
Speaker 5 (23:13):
The show, Sean King.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
What's up man, Sean Man?
Speaker 8 (23:17):
The odd couple, Man, I miss your guys, playing to
hear you guys back together?
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Man?
Speaker 1 (23:23):
One more last day is next from I can't wait
to get out of here.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
I wouldn't say it that way.
Speaker 4 (23:33):
Yeah yeah, but let Sean, let's get to last night's game. Obviously,
what were your overall thoughts? Rob and I have both
picked the Ravens to win the Super Bowl? Should we
be discouraged from what we saw last night?
Speaker 5 (23:48):
And what are your thoughts?
Speaker 8 (23:49):
Absolutely? The Ravens looks slow in space, and that's a
bad deficiency. If you noticed, they were really struggling to
tackle the Chief skilled players in space outside of the Flowers,
and when Lamar ran the ball, they didn't really have
guys that could make you miss in space. I know
Asaya likely made some plays and he's gonna be a
good tight end, but I think they got an issue
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moving forward, especially if they're not gonna play old school
raven football. I thought the addition of Derrick Henry meant
that he was gonna get twenty plus carries. They were
gonna ground and pound, playfield position, you know, try and
create explosives in the play action, get past game, and
that just didn't happen.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Yeah, I mean, what do you I think they gotta use.
They have to find a way to maximize Lamar and
Derek Hear we together totally.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
One.
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Do you think some of that is because they usually
aren't behind and you usually don't trail in games. Do
you think some of that is because they're trailing? They
usually trail the Chiefs whenever they play, they get away
from the run. I mean, you know, it is what
it is. Do you think that takes them away from
run My thing is you're only trailing by ten points
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or seven points, you can remain a minute to the.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
Run, right, Him's not out of reach at that point.
Speaker 8 (25:04):
You know what happened last night as well, And this
is something that teams really have to I think take
into account. Lamar Jackson's not an effective enough passer to
not take snaps in the preseason. He looked very uncomfortable
in the pocket.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
I want two MVPs.
Speaker 8 (25:21):
Really, yeah, right, And it's crazy because and if he gets.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Hurt in it, If he gets hurt in the preseason,
your season's over. I just I disagree with you showing
on that. I don't know how you can put him
out there.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
I don't.
Speaker 8 (25:33):
Well, here's here's why I'm going to push back. He's
a dynamic athlete, He's still a work in progress as
a pure quarterback. And if you saw how uncomfortable he
was in the pocket, you know, running around acting like
it was pressure when it wasn't pressure. How many times
did you see him drop back in rhythm, throw the
ball on time with anticipation that comes from live reps.
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And he looked like a guy that hadn't had live
reps last night.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
And that's something and they still almost side the game
at the end.
Speaker 8 (26:03):
Well, I mean if almost you know one geme no, no, no, no.
Speaker 6 (26:07):
My point is. My point is that they weren't out
of the game and that and there were some.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
Teams that a good team, a very good team.
Speaker 4 (26:15):
I think they I think Sean, they looked like the
two best teams in the league last night. To me,
especially when you're take into consideration what we saw last year.
Speaker 8 (26:24):
I think it's hard to say that until you see
some of the other teams and how they progress. I'm
big on the Texan see how the Lions come back.
You know, what did the Niners look like like? I
will admit, I mean it was a good football game
outside of the fact that I still, for the life
of me, don't understand why the broadcast never addressed the
fact that the rest are blatantly cheating. If you were
going to if you're going to call the Ravens tackles
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for illegal formation on that opening drive, seventy four from
the Chiefs was illegal the rest of the game, and
they never called it once he was put in the backfield.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
I don't remember he got that's Jeron Taylor seventy four. Yes,
remember he got called for that a lot last year.
Speaker 8 (27:04):
Yeah, and it was unbelievable. I was shocked that collins
Worth of them didn't bring it up and address it.
And I mean, I've never seen anything as blatant as
that in my life. And they did it to themselves
that first drive of the game. They came out like
they got the call from the league. Listen, this is
something we're gonna be a stickler about. Make sure that
we emphasizing in game one. But they only did it
to the Ravens.
Speaker 6 (27:25):
Yeah, what did you think about?
Speaker 4 (27:27):
I mean, Lamar, he had a great game running the football,
but he won't last. The way he was running, he
was trying to run people over. Well, I don't I
don't understand. I think he maybe want to win. A
lot of people said, maybe you just want to win
the game so badly.
Speaker 5 (27:43):
It's the Chiefs.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
He wanted revenge from last year that he was doing that.
But they gotta be talking to him about Look, you
cannot but he cannot be running like this, right, I know,
but he didn't to stop last night.
Speaker 8 (27:57):
Well, he can't ever get away from running, because that's
part of what makes it.
Speaker 6 (28:00):
No.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
No, I'm saying running into people like you know what
it is.
Speaker 8 (28:06):
It's a crutch for him. And here's what I mean
by that. He's uncomfortable right now throwing the ball in
rhythm from the pocket. So in order to make up
for that uncomfortable miss, I'm gonna run the ball because
I know I'm great at that. I'm telling you, if
you guys ever get the chance to watch the All
twenty two, go back and look at every one of
Lamar's non designed runs. Was it real pressure?
Speaker 4 (28:31):
No, he was looking to run last night and he
said he lost weight. Well, I don't know if he
paid he lost weight so he could be faster and
run more.
Speaker 8 (28:41):
Yeah. See, I don't believe. I don't believe that. I
think Lamar's in the fast and he wants to look
different in his clothes. I mean, you've never seen Lamon
Jackson play looked at him and say he needs to
lose weight. Like, wait, when has that ever been an issue?
Speaker 6 (28:52):
Pointed?
Speaker 4 (28:53):
I'll give you a time when they played the Chiefs
last year in the championship game and he had the
twenty one yard run. He didn't even try to run
away from Jean lugerious sneak. He looked back he was right.
He kept looking back, almost trying to stiffer, and he
pointed out that he didn't feel like he was as
fast as he used to be on the field because
of the weight game.
Speaker 6 (29:13):
All right, let's let me let me.
Speaker 8 (29:14):
Let me give a quick counter argument to why he
didn't look as fast. It's because in Week one against
the Chiefs, he's running the ball sixteen times one hundred
plus yards and he's not sliding, and he's running into people.
And what happens is that those hits that accumulate woe
click at your shoulder, then it's your knee, then it's
your shein, and by the time you get to the playoffs,
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you beat up.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
Right, That's why you don't need to be running real quick.
Speaker 6 (29:40):
Last one, the Eagles have they what?
Speaker 1 (29:43):
They lose six of their last seven last year, finished
the season with a whimper.
Speaker 6 (29:47):
What are your expectation for the Eagles this year?
Speaker 8 (29:50):
I'm just gonna watch this game. I'm not going in
with any pre existing ideas because I want to see
Killen Moore's impact on Jalen Hurts. Also, the Eagles aren't
being talked about, but they added Sae Kwon Barkley and
Johan Dotson to an already talented group of skilled players. Uh.
I mean people talk about the slide, but weren't they
ten to zero before the Yeah?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
But they even remember, they kept talking about how.
Speaker 5 (30:13):
They weren't playing well.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, when they were, Oh, it wasn't that impressive. It
wasn't so to.
Speaker 8 (30:18):
Me, they're the most likely team to get back to
our regrets, to where they were before, which is the
Super Bowl the year before Jalen Hurst played his best
game and the loss to Patrick Mahons and the Chiefs.
So that's what I'm looking for, the additional chount and more.
How has it impacted Jalen Hurts growth at the quarterback position.
Speaker 5 (30:38):
I don't you know.
Speaker 6 (30:40):
I don't know who.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
I don't really care who wins the night. I'm looking
forward to a good game. But I have packed picked
the Packers to reach the Super Bowl this year. Do
you what do you think of their chances of doing that?
Speaker 8 (30:51):
I think the Packers have the best combination of talent, age,
contractual situation of any team in football. When you look
at their key pieces, they're all young guys, and they've
already paid the quarterback they don't have to pay Christian
Watson here or Jayden Reed or Romeo Doves or Duntavian Wicks.
They got the two tight ends, Tucker Kraft and Mustrave.
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They added Josh Jacobs every down.
Speaker 6 (31:17):
Can you want a super Bowl by paying the quarterback?
Or you can't? You can?
Speaker 8 (31:21):
I mean it's the Chiefs are going for three in
a row, right, they've paid. They got five hundred million.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
And also Matt Stafford got paid. They did they want
a super Bowl?
Speaker 8 (31:29):
I don't know if it's let me let me answer
that question. Put context on it. When you pay a
quarterback worth being paid that amount of money, you can
absolutely want a super Bowl when you pay the quarterback,
just because sometimes everybody else you can't.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
Yeah, but sometimes people think that it's just if you
don't have to pay the quarterback, you win.
Speaker 6 (31:48):
And I just don't agree with that.
Speaker 8 (31:49):
I think that I think you're right there wrong. I
agree with what the hell is going on?
Speaker 6 (31:54):
There's something wrong in the water, no doubt about it.
Speaker 8 (31:57):
That's grass, guys on a great man.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Thank you, thank you, appreciate it all right, that's our man,
Sean King.
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Speaker 1 (32:48):
All right, not a good night. Uh, we're back on
social media thanks to Elijah. But Shekel City Chris one
and two last night, So that didn't work out. I
got a bounce back. I got the Eagles minus two
over the Packers. That's my best bet. Eagles minus two.
They get righted after fading last year. Also at the
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Mets minus one and a half. They are leading to nothing,
so we had that earlier. And the Braids minus one
and a half. They're hosting the Blue Jays So Braids
minus one and a half runs, Mets minus one and
a half runs, and the Eagles minus two. And remember,
Chris Broussard, I'm telling you, I'm not telling you who
to bet on. I'm telling you who I bet on.
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I almost forgot what I was gonna say.
Speaker 5 (33:35):
It sounded like, yeah, like a pregnant pause there. All right,
So you got the Eagles, you got them winning tonight.
Speaker 6 (33:42):
Yes, we're just covering, all right.
Speaker 1 (33:44):
So why I just think it's sa kwon the pieces
that they've added, wanting to get off to a bet
last year had a bad taste in the mount.
Speaker 6 (33:56):
They gotta feel like.
Speaker 1 (34:00):
This is something we want to do, not continue, Chris,
what they did a year ago. And I think if
they lose again, you might have that feeling like anything
gets sorted out after the offseason or not. And if
they haven't put put together a nice performance, you might
say to yourself, Hey, they got their little mojo back.
So it's more like what's the right term momentum kind
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of thing.
Speaker 6 (34:22):
That's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Well, I agree with you in that they need a
great they need a nice show. We whether they win
or not, I mean they want to win, and they
do need a win, but you see, yeah, but they
to me, what they could not they might not be
able to survive is a blowout loss in witch Robe.
Speaker 5 (34:44):
They look listless like they.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Did over the last third of the season, ye where
they you know, the effort didn't look like it was there,
the camaraderie wasn't there, the execution, they just looked like
they were a team that was lost. And they gave
Nick Sirianni a chance. And he's been a good coach.
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You can't deny that he got him to the super Bowl.
He's been to the playoffs three straight. Here tell you this,
they had won four games. This is it the year
before he was well, right, And if they get blasted tonight, Rob,
I think he's already on the hot seat. If they
got blasted tonight, then that seat gets even warmer, and
he maybe wouldn't even make it through, you know, a
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month or two because they're not trying.
Speaker 5 (35:32):
Like they brought him back.
Speaker 4 (35:35):
Saying he's not the problem, and you could easily said
he was, because that's the coach's job, Rob, to motivate
guys and get him out of those funks.
Speaker 6 (35:45):
Right.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
But if they yeah, if it's a bad performance, then
you start to question did anything get fixed?
Speaker 8 (35:52):
Right?
Speaker 1 (35:52):
What is he doing? The same stuff is happening from
last year. That's why I think it's an important game.
And that's the only reason, Chris. I mean, Packers are
a really good team. Uh, They're not gonna be easy
to beat the Packers, But I just think the game
means more. If the Packers lose, they not the end
of the world, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
For the.
Speaker 4 (36:13):
Philly Yeah, I would not be surprised really to see
either team, even as I've picked the Packers to win
the NFC. You know, Philly is tough. To your point,
they really needed and rob they got. And this is
why Sirianni's on the hot seat and certainly would be
if they really have a bad showing the night.
Speaker 6 (36:36):
Their talent is ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (36:39):
I mean, they've got arguably the best receiver maybe certainly
the best receiving corps in the league with AJ Brown,
Devonte Smith and now Johann Dotson.
Speaker 5 (36:51):
You got you ass sat Kwan Barkley.
Speaker 4 (36:53):
What is not the like Jalen Hurts has been in
the MVP conversation, played well in the Super Bowl, like
defensively They've had their struggles, but I thought they did
some good things in the offseason, particularly in the draft,
to address that their offensive line. Yes, they lost Jason Kelsey,
but Rob they their culture is strong offensive lines, and
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so they absolutely so they they should be in the
hunt for the NFC title. I think they'll definitely win
their division. But you're right if they if they have
a bad showing the night, it could start now. They
got several winnable games after tonight, so they would get
a chance to right themselves.
Speaker 6 (37:37):
But yeah, it wouldn't The season wouldn't be over.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But you just don't want to even because if you
lose this one, Chris, and then a game you should
win one of those on the schedule, you lose that too,
now you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (37:48):
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean if they lost to Night
and then they play Atlanta next and then.
Speaker 6 (37:52):
Lost to Atlanta, they would be panic.
Speaker 5 (37:54):
Sirianni would, I.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Think, would be in real danger of losing his job
because I if I were running the Eagles dropt, I
wouldn't let this fester.
Speaker 5 (38:03):
If I see more.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
You know, uneven performances and bad demeanors, I'm making changes.
Speaker 5 (38:09):
Keep it like a couple Fox Sports Radio,