September 4, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob debate whether or not it’s fair to say that Patrick Mahomes is ‘Jordan-Esque’ and should be viewed as the favorite to win the NFL MVP every year, explain why Ja’Marr Chase’s contract has taken so long to get resolved and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, ‘Check the Mic’ podcast host Sam Monson swings by to discuss the buzz surrounding the Houston Texans entering the season, if we can expect Caleb Williams to live up to the hype in his rookie season, why he’s higher on the Arizona Cardinals than most and much more!
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
For the thirty third team.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's always fun to talk with Sam about football and
particularly quarterbacks. Also, let me welcome in my partner, mister
Rob Parker.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What's up man? What's happened to mister Chris Bussard? How
are you fantastic? I know you are. What's that mean?
I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
No, I mean behind Chris and his basement, man, kve
whatever you want to call it. I can see the
catandar and you got the days scratched out. I'm just like, so,
so I know that you are not You do not
see a calendar. I see this stretched out right. So
(02:12):
after today is what is?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Seven? After today? Seven after so eight shows including the day. Wow,
that's what I'm saying. It'll be here, burned out. I
be honest with you. I do have a few.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Dinner reservations, not even with my wife, but you know,
to catch up with that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You haven't been able to catch up with so and.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
When you come out here, well, yeah, when you come
out here, we could have dinner.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We can hang out.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Absolutely absolutely on you this time though, yeah okay, the
last time was you. It was me And you can
basically bought your two meals because you bought a meal
to go to I can't believe that what.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm gonna do that to you too. I'm gonna get
a meal and then another meal to go. I'm just
letting you know.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
All right, let's introduce the couple crew and get this
party started. The super producer Rob g is back.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He's feeling better today. I look at a little health scared.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Was that how you go to the beach and get
a cold? That's what he did?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Was in Orange County, Chris, they'll build different out there, County.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Really, you ain't built different because you got a cold
and eighty degree weather. He never been at the beach
and then go to a sixty degree air condition. Of Chris,
the weird things happened.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
And don't forget he's got a young daughter. And do
you know where they go to school? And those kids,
all those kids are sick. He didn't get it from
his young right, am I right? Rob jotted from the
little breeze out there. All those kids are sick, Chris.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
When's the last time you went into a five year
old classroom? They're snot boogers and spit everywhere. Hey, I've
been through that.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I've been Chris changed enough in less technological times than this,
So I will say you you brought that up the
diaper change rock the first time.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You didn't know Chris, did you did you like freak
out like I've never changed a diaper, you know, like
I got niche whoever?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Never Wow, I can't even look in the diaper forget.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And I bet every parent can relate to this. When
it's your child, you just do it the grossest things
don't even freak you out when it's your child, you know,
it's just like, oh that you know, you just do it?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You don't even it don't even gross you out either,
at least I felt that way right to do it right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's just like, you just do it.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I'm just saying, like I know I couldn't do it,
like I'm not seeing child.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
What I'm saying like somebody else's child. I could be
honest about, Like if it was somebody else's kid, I
could feel.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like, like, what are you doing? I'm doing this all right.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Also in Wow, you talking about the shocker DJ Alex
Tight Shirt aka Alex the Vegan been around the world.
I told you he's so bronzed from his son. I
gotta check his Instagram. Does he have some photos up there?
In his speedo with.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
His tame nothing on the ground.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
See, no, your girls, he's gotta shut that down too.
If A had any more any more material on his
bathing suit, he'd have a bikini. Well I actually didn't
find out, Rob, there's a thing called a micro bikini,
so it might be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
A handkerchief if he had any right goodness, all right?
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And then on the updates you the loquacious Brian Finn.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Who still married Chris. So that's a good thing. That's good.
Did y'all do your honeymoon yet, be Finn? Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We went to the Big We went to the Big
Island of Hawaii, and I pronounced Hawaii correctly.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Very nice Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh okay, did you see Stephen mc garrett when you
were there or my whole life.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You've never been Chris?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I've been there. I'm saying I probably probably
have pronounced it wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I just say Hawaii, all right.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And Elijah is our social media group, so we're all
in full effect on.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
This, Rob, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
NFL executives spoke to The Athletic twenty seven of them
to be exact.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They were anonymous, so they you know, shared their true.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Feelings and eighteen of the twenty six Pickpatrick Mahomes to
be the MVP.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He is my pick as well.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And one GM said this, Rob, and this is really
stuck in your crawl.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's hard not to say Mahomes, he's Michael Jordan.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You know I've been saying that. I claimed that I was.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
The first to say it six years ago in his
first year as a starter, fifty touchdowns over five thousand yards, MVP.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I said, this dude.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is jordan esque or going to be jordan esque, And
there it is your thought.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
So he's wrong and you're wrong, absolutely prisoner of the moment.
I expect better from NL at NFL executives. But this
is a lame, easy, lazy pick to pick Patrick Mahomes
as the MVP. Last year, he did not have an
mv VP SIGs. Okay, he didn't play well, and you
(07:15):
can blame it whatever you want to blame it on,
but it didn't blame well. The numbers weren't good. Can
we just acknowledge that, right? The number the numbers during
the regular.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Season in the overstated he didn't have a great year. Obviously,
he came through in the Super Bowl, and you know,
the playoffs in general. But for him it was a
down year, but it was a regular season award, so
we we can't. We're not talking about that. Okay, No
he should. He was not even in the conversation exactly
rightly so, and for this executive is saying, Michael Jordani
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wins it every year. First of all, Michael jordan never
didn't win it every year as great as he was. Okay,
so that doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Whatever, maybe whoever did the poll or whatever could have said, well,
Michael didn't win it ten years in a row, so
so what are you saying?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then here's the other part.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
That's the thing, just kind of making a you know,
he didn't mean he's gonna win it every year.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
And last year Mahomes threw for forty one hundred yards
chris twenty seven touchdowns, both were his second lowest mark
of his career as a starter, and he had a
career high fourteen interceptions in seventeen games.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So that's what we're talking about. Rob g Rob, he's
not eve been in the room.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Alex sent me this, Thank you, Alex. And here's the
best part. As Patrick Mahomes played in the NFL the
last five years.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah he has, right, Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
But somehow two quarterbacks who are still playing actually won
four of the five MVPs during the Patrick Mahomes era.
During the Michael Jordan era, Aaron Rodgers won twice and
Lamar Jackson won twice. Right, and Lamar Jackson in the
Patrick Mahomes era, what all the first place votes except
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one in two of the voting when he won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So my only point.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Is, Chris, just like when everybody who was the former
baseball player, was it Ccsabathia who said every every year,
just give it to show hair.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, I don't think it was. Yeah, it was CC.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Okay, Yeah, just like I know you're thinking about. No,
CC said he was gonna beat Aaron Judge. You're right,
it was, Uh, it was j D. Martinez, Chris. JD
Martinez said every year, just give it to show hey.
And of course Aaron Judge beat him right one year
when they were head to head, and that they're in
different leagues, it won't matter, but Aaron Judge beat him
with the historic season.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
All I'm saying is.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Patrick Mahomes in the last five years has won one
of the MVPs. And the other two guys Aaron Rodgers
and especially Lamar who won just one vote shy of
being unanimous twice, which is incredible considering I think Chris
only two guys have done it right, Tom Brady and
and Lamar almost did it for a second time, where
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nobody's only done it once twice, which is incredible. It
really is talks about his impact and whatnot and his play.
I just I don't think it's automatic that he's gonna
be MVP.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's my look.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
If you're taking the quote literally, I am I gotta
go by won and yeah, of course, I mean, he's
not gonna win it every year and Michael, but that
does not.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Change the comparison to Jordan, because to your point, Jordan
didn't win it every year, and Jordan rob was. We
know he was the best player for ten straight years
and you maybe even more. And he didn't win the
MVP every year. He went multiple seasons straight without getting
(10:47):
an MVP.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And so whether it's voter fatigue, I will give you that.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Mahomes last year did not have an MVP season, so
there's no question about that. But when I say said
Jordan esque, I mean and again it doesn't mean nobody
ever eats. Because Jordan played fifteen years thirteen with the Bulls,
he won six championships. That means seven years with the
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Bulls he didn't win it. But once he started winning,
no one else ate.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Now it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Exact because to your point, other quarterbacks Matthew Stafford, Tom
Brady have won super Bowls during the Mahomes era, if
you will, but he has been keeping a lot of
quarterbacks from eating Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, like dudes,
(11:47):
he and.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's not gonna win even the super Bowl. He's not
gonna win it.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Every year Tom Brady won seven that's more than any
franchise in what twenty how many years? To Brady twenty
one twenty four years, that's like one every that's thirty
something percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Don't even forget about it.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
And Tomboy had two separate careers because it was a
middle career and was great that individually, right individually, he
became like an elite, you know, statistically elite, where he
wasn't that early in his career, in his first few
Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But my point is just that Roy, I do think
Mahomes rob. What he's doing is he is dominating the
sport to the similar degree that Michael Jordan did. It
was like it was no question who's the best player
in the league. Who cares who won it? If you
Carl Malone was never better than Michael Jordan. Charles Barkley
(12:48):
was never better than Michael Jordan. But they won MVPs
on his watch, you know. And and who Lamar is
not better than Michael or than Patrick Mahomes and.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
None of the square better. He's played better. He hasn't
thrown the ball better, but he run.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
The two years that he won unanimous better year I said.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He played, but no one even when he plays better,
he ain't better.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, but it's not. That's not how this dude.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Is clear the best. He's the best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
He didn't look like the nascounter back last year Christian
and playoffs winning County.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And then here's the other part is he looked like he's.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
So great that two years in the row you voted,
you bet against him, you didn't even think he was
going to win the last two Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, there's a question mark in your mind, yes or no?
To win the Super Bowl he's the best quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
But I just robbed. That's that that I'm telling you.
Tom Brady, in my view, is the go. He won
Super Bowls about thirty percent of his career. You don't
win it every year. Joe mind said four super Bowls,
that's awesome. How many years did he not win it?
Way more than four. So even if I think Patrick
(14:08):
Mahomes is the best quarterback in the league, doesn't mean
I'm gonna pick him to win the Super Bowl every
year one.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It doesn't happen too. It is a team sport.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
If you don't have the defense, if you don't have Heck,
last year he won it with some receivers that couldn't catch,
could not catch a Cole thankfully had Travis Kelsey. So
you know, if football, nobody's gonna win it every year.
But that dude's Jordan Esk. Let's see what the listeners think.
(14:38):
We'll see if they can settle this eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. Simple, question is Patrick Mahomes? Jordan
Esk rob not the question, I say, just not the question.
That's my question. Go ahead, you share your question. That's
my question.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Is Patrick Mahomes? Jordan ask what you got okay.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I I thought it was based off of the the
general managers think what you're gonna win the m VP.
Either question is it's about the m VP. Is you
gonna win the m v P is and a lock?
Is it automatic? That's that's what is automatic?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But is he gonna win the Is it his to
lose you?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
The way you want to answer is Patrick Mahomes Is
it his MVP to lose us?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Here?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And my question is is he Jordan esk your thoughts
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Eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox is Patrick Mahomes?
Is it his MVP to lose every year?
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
That's Rob's question. My question is is he Jordan esqu
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
All right, let's kick it off, Chris with Darren in Montana.
You're in the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Darren?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Guys, thank you so much for taking my call. Yes,
my answer is going to be kind of not answering,
but at at the same time answering. I think Patrick
Mahomes he wants rings, he wants championships.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You can't win You.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Can't win a champion you can't win a ring during
the regular season. Okay, so I get that, I get
I'm no, no, no, no, no, Just don't make an excuse
on whatn't win the m v P and just say
because if he didn't win that, if you when you're
playing during the regular season, he wants to play the
best that he can play.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's all I'm saying. Yeah, he's upset about last year.
He didn't he didn't have No.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well, exactly, he might be upset last year that he
was this and the other. Has he even won one?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, he's got two.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
He's the only player, he's the only he's the first
athlete since Larry Bird to win three championships and two
MVPs in his first seven years.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Okay, exactly, And so now he's going for three in
a row, which is awesome. Yeah, I think I don't.
I mean, yeah, he wants to be MVP of the
regular season. But that is not his final That is
not his final desire. I mean, like, I just don't
see it.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Nobody's saying. Nobody's saying that he's going. It's about playing well.
And I think that if you ask him, did he
play well last year? And if he plays well enough
and he wins, fine, Chris. I don't think that it's
the end of the world. If you don't win an MVP,
you're not gonna win it every year. No, But you
can't tell.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
If you I mean Rob, you know, like vote Lamar Jackson.
It's not impossible for him to win it, Rob, but
he's I think he's gonna have to be so much
better than everybody else just because of voter fatigue, you
know what I mean, things like that, So all types
of stuff come in to play with MVP, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Marty in Kentucky, you're on on a couple of Fox
Sports waiting, what's up, Marty?
Speaker 10 (19:02):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Fellas?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What up? Matt?
Speaker 10 (19:06):
Well, guys, I'm going to sound a lot like previous caller.
I feel like he's playing the end game. The thing
about I do like the comparison of him and Jordan's
we can't do it by he's got to do two
three peat for this or that because it's a single
eliminatione situation. The Bulls would have lost their first championships
(19:27):
Lakers because they lost game one if it's single eliminations,
you know, so we can't compare that as far as
championships three peats. But his level of skill and talent
combined with his intelligence is jordan ness, and I know
that he has more to do to be on that level.
But the thing is he can sit back. The years
that he's won MVP, his defense hasn't been very good
(19:49):
and he had to do more. When his defense is good,
he doesn't mind setting back and managing a game to victory.
Sometimes managing a game is your best chance.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You think he wanted to throw fourteen picks last year?
Speaker 10 (20:02):
I think he had a whole lot of brand new receivers.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No, that's not what I asked you. Did he want
to throw fourteen picks? Couldn't catch?
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Sure he didn't, but he was he was trying to.
I mean, he was working with new guys and new
system and trying hard to make things happen, and he picked.
But I still think he's done question the best quarterback
of football.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I'm with you there, Marty. I'm definitely with you.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
MJ.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
In New Orleans. Let's squeeze a man, you're on the
eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, MJ? You
know what, Marty didn't even say? Good body?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Chris like like he might not know. I don't know
if he even knows. Does it possible? He didn't sound
like he knew, but he didn't, MJ. What's up, my man?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
What's going on?
Speaker 10 (20:46):
Man?
Speaker 11 (20:46):
Welcome back?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Robert?
Speaker 11 (20:47):
I know you're probably was going like the Parcher's family fool.
You do it the last couple of weeks. Now, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Welcome back, man, Thank you?
Speaker 11 (20:56):
What's up for? What's Chris was going on?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Man?
Speaker 11 (20:59):
I'm good think you guys are still having that same
argument because Chris kind of went out there and you know,
said that about him being Jordanes. Okay, the term Jordan
isn't deephone, this abject that refers to the gold Michael
Jeffrey Jordans.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Wait, what is it? What did you just say? The
term jordan Esque is?
Speaker 11 (21:21):
What is an bonus?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Is a what.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
The word is bone us?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Man?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Just tell us what you stop reading and tell us
what give us your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
What did you say? What you got to say?
Speaker 11 (21:39):
Well, what is describing? And I'm agree with you, Chris,
that it describes a remarkaple athletic achievement and or dominant
and that something it up perfectly providing context when he
had to work with last season, with those receivers dropping
a lot of those balls, it still was so much
so that had my home is for Radio from run
(22:01):
for the MVP seas and so much so that he's competing
against himself and what he's already done. That's all I
see it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
All right, he said a lot ron all right, I
guess I think.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
He had a sylilock we written, all right, he wants
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
We welcome in our man Sam Monson.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
How are you's up? Sam?
Speaker 12 (22:54):
I'm doing well, guys, how are you?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We're great?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Congratulations on the new job too, Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
It's exciting times away from PFF for the first time
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Speaker 1 (23:11):
Absolutely, man, we'll be looking forward to listening to you.
Let's start here.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I mean, what a season we've got Patrick Mahomes and
the Kansas City Chiefs going for the first three peat
in Super Bowl history. What do you think about their
chances of getting it done? Are you like picking them
to get it done?
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (23:29):
Look, I think the Chiefs are going into the season
in a stronger position than they were a year ago,
and we saw what they managed to do last season.
They have a great defense, They've they've got the offense,
which really struggled for a lot of the last season.
They came together late in the year and in the playoffs,
but they went and added speed to that group, and
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they added receiving help, and they obviously drafted Xavier Worthy,
the fastest guy that's ever come into the NFL. They
bring in Hollywood Brown. Okay, he's out hurt right now,
but he'll be back stun into the season. And you
still got guys like Rashi Rice and obviously Travis Kelcey
is still there. Mahomes is still there, And that's the
single most important thing when you're talking about their chances
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of winning a championship. But right now, you would say
the Chiefs are one of the favorites in the entire
NFL and absolutely have a real live shot at that
unprecedented Star three team.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I want to ask you about the Texans.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I know people have a lot of people have them
going to the Super Bowl, and I get the first
year and a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach, and
a lot of things went their way until they, you know,
got into the playoffs and played the Ravens. But I
need to see another year before I'm buying into them
going into the Super Bowl. Where are you want the Technics?
Speaker 12 (24:49):
I think that's a fair opinion. Look, the Texans were
exciting last season, but they were not expected to be
good at all. You know, this was a team that
was supposed to have one of the top two picks
in the draft before last season, and then they just
shocked everybody by being so much better than people were
expecting them to be.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Stee J.
Speaker 12 (25:05):
Stroud was fantastic right out of the gate, Bobby Slowig
coming over from that Kyle Shanahan offensive system, bringing that
version of his offense with him. It was just an
incredible team last season. But it doesn't always continue, you know,
those guys don't just keep getting better year on year.
And maybe they'll take a slight step backwards this season
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as opposed to just keeping on marching. And now we're
talking about a team that's really charging for a super Bowl.
They might regress a little bit next season or this
season rather, I think that's definitely a possible outcome for them.
So they're definitely approaching this like they're in a super
Bowl window already. The moves they made this offseason, bringing
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in guys like the new Hunter, Joe Mixon, Stefon Diggs,
these are not long term moves necessarily. These are moves
to win a championship right now. But they're not necessarily
the kind of the move that will make them a
huge amount better this season, particularly if a couple of
those guys do take a step forward. So, you know,
I think the Texans are a good team. I think
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they should be viewing themselves as contenders. But I think
you're right that it could easily go in the other
direction a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You mentioned CJ.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Stroud, and a lot of people are going to be
comparing Caleb Williams to him. What type of year do
you foresee for Caleb and the Bears, because some people
are even picking them to go as far as the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
Yeah, and that's pretty aggressive. But Caleb Williams looks like
an absolutely special talent, and I think that that's what's
getting people excited and maybe carried away a little bit.
You know, Caleb Williams as a prospect as a college
player who's getting compared to Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers.
Those are the two names that you would see a
lot at. Any time that happens, you know, you immediately
(26:52):
start to push back and say, look, this is crazy,
it's unfair, it's unrealistic. Let's tap the brakes on this.
But the comps are legit. I mean, those are the
players that he reminds you of. Those are the guys
that also do the special things that he's able to do.
We saw it in college through two different programs. We
saw it in preseason. You know, there was a three
(27:14):
play sequence where we got to see nothing but special
plays from Caleb Williams. And okay, it's it's any college,
it's onny preseason. It doesn't necessarily mean that's who's going
to be once the real game start at the NFL level.
But so far, every step of the way, he has
looked genuinely special and capable of making spectacular plays.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
So for the.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
Chicago Bears, a team that has never really had a
top tier quarterback, at least not while the game has
been broadcast in color, right.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Quist, And I'm bringing up all the time past Sid Luckman. Right,
it's been a long time.
Speaker 12 (27:50):
Right, Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dump on
Sid Luckman. May the man may have been a phenomenal QB,
but this is not the same game that it was
back when sig said Luckman was playing. So the Bears
never in the Botton era had a legitimate top tier quarterback.
Caleb Williams could be their best quarterback after his rookie season.
That's genuinely achievable.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Well, how come so many people we had people come
on here. He's not on the Chris, he's not on
his draft board, and some people were just talking about Caleb.
I thought he got was over scrutinized, like like he
played at a major college, he won a heisman, he
bit we saw what he did and people tried to
pick it apart.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
He looks the party, looks like a really good quarterback.
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Yeah, he really does. I think last season he made
some mistakes and some of his aggressive plays they got
punished a little bit in particularly that Notre Dame game.
You know, there were some times he put the ball
in the arms away and he got turnovers last season.
But I think you have to say number one, he's
playing at the very edge of his aggressiveness because he
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knew that defense was going to give up thirty forty
points a game, and he couldn't make mistakes. If the
drive stopped, they were going to lose the game because
he couldn't afford to give up possession. So in the NFL,
he knows he's got a better defense, he's got a
better supporting gasp, he doesn't need to make every single play.
He can be a little bit more careful and a
(29:19):
little bit more conservative. But also that was the first
year that he'd ever really been punished for those types
of plays. Like he's made a career in college out
of making those Mahomes type throws and those Mahomes type decisions.
And one of the things that makes Mahomes unique is
he's really the only guy in NFL history that's been
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able to get away with those plays every single time
so consistently. The number of times where Mahomes throws one
of those back across his body into the middle of
the field type plays and actually gets intersected or turned
over because of that, it's so much smaller than any
other quarterback in NFL history, and that's what makes him special.
(30:01):
That's what makes him Mahomes. Last year was the first
time that we saw any indication that Caleb Williams would
also be punished for them. Up until then, he'd had
this Mahomes ability to get away with all of those plays.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Who are give me two teams, one that you are
expecting to have a surprisingly good season, like that team
you know that that'll come out of nowhere worse the
first if you will, and then the team that you
expect to go the other way that you know everybody's
think is going to be good, has been to the playoffs,
you know at least last, and that they're going to
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fall off.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 12 (30:38):
Yeah, I think the Cardinals are my first team. The
team that could surprise people. Marvin Harrison Junior being added
to that team, Kyler Williams or Kyler Murray rather being
healthy now after that knee injury. Coming back off that
knee injury last season, you know, Marvin Harrison could transform
everything both what Kyler Murray looks like, but also helping
(30:58):
the rest of that receiving call or now that they've
got a true number one, they can also to take
a step down the depth chart. Michael Wilson. I think
will be a really good player now that he can
be a number two. Terrey McBride is a really good
tight end. They've got talent in the backfield, the offensive
lines moving in the right direction. I think the coaching
staff was doing clever things last season. Anyway, that offense
(31:19):
for Arizona could be really good this year, and the
defense is still a work in progress. I think they
could shock some people the team the other direction. I
could see Buffalo unraveling a little bit this year. You
know now that they've got to replace Stefon Diggs, they
haven't really done it with a true, proven number one receiver.
(31:41):
I don't know the key on Coleman is going to
be that guy. I really like Coleman as a receiver,
but I don't think he's just a prototypical X wide
receiver a guy that can replace Diggs. So that offense
is going to need to change, and I think it's
going to need to rely on Josh Allen maybe more
than it's ever done before.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh.
Speaker 12 (32:00):
I think there's definitely the potential of the Bills could
struggle this year in what is still a loaded division
and a loaded conference.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
All right.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
That is Sam Monson, great stuff man, great information.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Appreciate again.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Check him out on the Check the Mic podcast for
the thirty thirteen, which is a great, great network. So Sam,
great stuff man.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We appreciate you. We'll talk to you.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
Later in the year anytime. Guys, Take it easy, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
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Welcome to Shekel City, the home base for Rob Parkers
day picks against the scrap.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
All right, Chris, here we go.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Last night the Yankees coughed it up walk off Grand
Slam by the Rangers. I said, Yankees bounce back. They
play in Arlington against the Rangers tonight. Yankees minus one
and a half runs.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'll take that. At the Best Bet.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Game number two, the Dodgers and the Angels in Anaheim, Chris,
I'm going to take Anaheim plus two and a half
runs plus two and a half. The Dodgers win the game,
but only by two. Anaheim of the Angels plus two
and a half runs and finally, Game number three, I'm
gonna take the Padres at home minus one and a half.
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They are hosting the Detroit Tigers, Chris, who turned their
season around.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
There are five.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Hundred the Tigers, right, I mean, you know, I mean
they're still in the hunt and probably not gonna get there,
but they too little, too late. But they made the
seventy and sixty nine, which is incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Five hundred seasons.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
So Padres minus one and a half runs, Angels plus
two and a half runs, and the Yankees minus one
and a half runs. And remember, Chris brusaw it, I'm
not telling you who the bet on. I'm telling you
who I better. All Right, there you have it, Rob,
Let's go to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Big story has been Jamar Chase, the great ride receiver
for the Cincinnati Bengals, sitting out. I mean haven't hold ends.
I guess in practice he's been there. He hasn't been
practicing practice once last week, but then just went and
attended and watched the last few days. Well, today, Rob,
he practiced and my thought is he's going to play
(35:07):
Sunday in their season opener. I felt like and still
feel like, because I don't know if I'm right, but I.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Feel like he'll play.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
But you know, he's trying to put the pressure on
him to get the money, but it really doesn't benefit
him at all to sit out.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Now.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
He's only making a million dollars rob So it's not
like Brandon Ayuk who was gonna make fourteen million with
the Niners. He can you know, you think with staying
that type of loss, if he wanted to sit out
the season, but the problem is he wouldn't accrue any
a year toward free agency.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So I think he'll play.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't expect him to come up with like a
phony injury, but you know, we'll see if he gets
his deal. But the Bengals, they don't Mike Brown, they
don't seem to budge on these types of things. A
pop store, Chris, and it's even beyond it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I mean, it's just there.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
The way they've done business, whether you know a lot
of it. They are, you know, poor owners relatively they are.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I mean, that's that's his business, you know what I mean,
Like he's not rich off of something else.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's the difference.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
And you know, I give Chase credit, man, you know,
like you got to stand up and fight for yourself
sometimes Chris, and he's in an unfortunate situation because his
brotherhood and the players Union or whatever sold them such
a bad deal that it's just it's just it's unfortunate.
You have no recourse, and it's it's so heavy on
(36:43):
the ownership side. It's just it's just mind boggling that
they've put these players and then Chris, like you say,
you don't gain any time for free agency by sitting out,
You don't uh.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You don't get paid.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
You don't get paid, and then uh, you know, and
then they still connect, they can still franchise tag you,
Chris for a couple of years after that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's just it's heavy handed. One point two.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
T Higgins is going to is in that they franchised
T Higgins. He knows they're not gonna keep him next year,
but he's playing because and I don't blame you know,
he wants his money. I think it's twenty one million
or something like that. So he's got to play. But look,
Chase will get paid. Rob he remember he's only played
three years. Justin Jefferson, who was you know a year ago.
(37:31):
But Brandon Ayyuk this year, Ceedee Lamb this year, they
played four years, so I think the Bengals have every intention.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Of paying him next year, not this year.
Speaker 10 (37:44):
Now.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Of course he can go out there and get hurt,
and that would be unfortunate, But you know, I mean,
it's it's a lot of guys. There are receivers that
have got paid after the three years, Don't get me wrong,
a few of them this year, right, And that's what
he said he saw, you know what I mean. Chris
is not like he's trying to do something that no
one's ever done. That's not what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He's doing stuff that other guys have done, including his
contemporaries and peers.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
The thing is this, Rob, if you're the Bengals, and
I think they feel this way now, they're so cheap
that Rob, if they won the Super Bowl this year,
they might not keep.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Some of these great Chris, not Mike, not Mike, Okay,
Mike Brown would be.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Super Bowl Cincinnati. We got Joe Burrow, everybody else. We
were going cheap. I can see that. You're absolutely right,
But if they're gonna keep Chase long term, it actually
would benefit them to pay him now, Rob, because it's
only gonna be more expensive next year and Remember, if
you pay him now, you still get the two years
he's already old, and so over the course.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Of the contract.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Because it would be an extension, he wouldn't get as
much money.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
All right, keep it lock. We got two hours left.
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Show now host of the co host of the Check
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Speaker 1 (01:28):
For the thirty third team.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
It's always fun to talk with Sam about football and
particularly quarterbacks. Also, let me welcome in my partner, mister
Rob Parker.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
What's up man? What's happened to mister Chris Bussard? How
are you fantastic? I know you are. What's that mean?
I'm just saying.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
No, I mean behind Chris and his basement, man, kve
whatever you want to call it. I can see the
catandar and you got the days scratched out. I'm just like, so,
so I know that you are not You do not
see a calendar. I see this stretched out right. So
(02:12):
after today is what is?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Seven? After today? Seven after so eight shows including the day. Wow,
that's what I'm saying. It'll be here, burned out. I
be honest with you. I do have a few.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
Dinner reservations, not even with my wife, but you know,
to catch up with that.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
You haven't been able to catch up with so and.
Speaker 4 (02:32):
When you come out here, well, yeah, when you come
out here, we could have dinner.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
We can hang out.
Speaker 4 (02:37):
Absolutely absolutely on you this time though, yeah okay, the
last time was you. It was me And you can
basically bought your two meals because you bought a meal
to go to I can't believe that what.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
I'm gonna do that to you too. I'm gonna get
a meal and then another meal to go. I'm just
letting you know.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
All right, let's introduce the couple crew and get this
party started. The super producer Rob g is back.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He's feeling better today. I look at a little health scared.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
Was that how you go to the beach and get
a cold? That's what he did?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Was in Orange County, Chris, they'll build different out there, County.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Really, you ain't built different because you got a cold
and eighty degree weather. He never been at the beach
and then go to a sixty degree air condition. Of Chris,
the weird things happened.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
And don't forget he's got a young daughter. And do
you know where they go to school? And those kids,
all those kids are sick. He didn't get it from
his young right, am I right? Rob jotted from the
little breeze out there. All those kids are sick, Chris.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
When's the last time you went into a five year
old classroom? They're snot boogers and spit everywhere. Hey, I've
been through that.
Speaker 4 (03:45):
I've been Chris changed enough in less technological times than this,
So I will say you you brought that up the
diaper change rock the first time.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
You didn't know Chris, did you did you like freak
out like I've never changed a diaper, you know, like
I got niche whoever?
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Never Wow, I can't even look in the diaper forget.
Speaker 4 (04:05):
And I bet every parent can relate to this. When
it's your child, you just do it the grossest things
don't even freak you out when it's your child, you know,
it's just like, oh that you know, you just do it?
Speaker 1 (04:19):
Am I right?
Speaker 4 (04:20):
You don't even it don't even gross you out either,
at least I felt that way right to do it right.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
It's just like, you just do it.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
I'm just saying, like I know I couldn't do it,
like I'm not seeing child.
Speaker 4 (04:34):
What I'm saying like somebody else's child. I could be
honest about, Like if it was somebody else's kid, I
could feel.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
Like, like, what are you doing? I'm doing this all right.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
Also in Wow, you talking about the shocker DJ Alex
Tight Shirt aka Alex the Vegan been around the world.
I told you he's so bronzed from his son. I
gotta check his Instagram. Does he have some photos up there?
In his speedo with.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
His tame nothing on the ground.
Speaker 5 (05:04):
See, no, your girls, he's gotta shut that down too.
If A had any more any more material on his
bathing suit, he'd have a bikini. Well I actually didn't
find out, Rob, there's a thing called a micro bikini,
so it might be.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
A handkerchief if he had any right goodness, all right?
Speaker 6 (05:25):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (05:26):
And then on the updates you the loquacious Brian Finn.
Speaker 1 (05:29):
Who still married Chris. So that's a good thing. That's good.
Did y'all do your honeymoon yet, be Finn? Yeah, we did.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
We went to the Big We went to the Big
Island of Hawaii, and I pronounced Hawaii correctly.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Very nice Hawaii.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
Oh okay, did you see Stephen mc garrett when you
were there or my whole life.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
You've never been Chris?
Speaker 4 (05:48):
Yeah, yeah, I've been there. I'm saying I probably probably
have pronounced it wrong.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
I just say Hawaii, all right.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
And Elijah is our social media group, so we're all
in full effect on.
Speaker 1 (05:59):
This, Rob, Here we go.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
NFL executives spoke to The Athletic twenty seven of them
to be exact.
Speaker 1 (06:05):
They were anonymous, so they you know, shared their true.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
Feelings and eighteen of the twenty six Pickpatrick Mahomes to
be the MVP.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
He is my pick as well.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
And one GM said this, Rob, and this is really
stuck in your crawl.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
It's hard not to say Mahomes, he's Michael Jordan.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Rob.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
You know I've been saying that. I claimed that I was.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
The first to say it six years ago in his
first year as a starter, fifty touchdowns over five thousand yards, MVP.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
I said, this dude.
Speaker 4 (06:46):
Is jordan esque or going to be jordan esque, And
there it is your thought.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
So he's wrong and you're wrong, absolutely prisoner of the moment.
I expect better from NL at NFL executives. But this
is a lame, easy, lazy pick to pick Patrick Mahomes
as the MVP. Last year, he did not have an
mv VP SIGs. Okay, he didn't play well, and you
(07:15):
can blame it whatever you want to blame it on,
but it didn't blame well. The numbers weren't good. Can
we just acknowledge that, right? The number the numbers during
the regular.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
Season in the overstated he didn't have a great year. Obviously,
he came through in the Super Bowl, and you know,
the playoffs in general. But for him it was a
down year, but it was a regular season award, so
we we can't. We're not talking about that. Okay, No
he should. He was not even in the conversation exactly
rightly so, and for this executive is saying, Michael Jordani
(07:44):
wins it every year. First of all, Michael jordan never
didn't win it every year as great as he was. Okay,
so that doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker 5 (07:50):
Whatever, maybe whoever did the poll or whatever could have said, well,
Michael didn't win it ten years in a row, so
so what are you saying?
Speaker 1 (07:58):
And then here's the other part.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
That's the thing, just kind of making a you know,
he didn't mean he's gonna win it every year.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
And last year Mahomes threw for forty one hundred yards
chris twenty seven touchdowns, both were his second lowest mark
of his career as a starter, and he had a
career high fourteen interceptions in seventeen games.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
So that's what we're talking about. Rob g Rob, he's
not eve been in the room.
Speaker 5 (08:20):
Alex sent me this, Thank you, Alex. And here's the
best part. As Patrick Mahomes played in the NFL the
last five years.
Speaker 1 (08:30):
Yeah he has, right, Yes.
Speaker 5 (08:31):
But somehow two quarterbacks who are still playing actually won
four of the five MVPs during the Patrick Mahomes era.
During the Michael Jordan era, Aaron Rodgers won twice and
Lamar Jackson won twice. Right, and Lamar Jackson in the
Patrick Mahomes era, what all the first place votes except
(08:55):
one in two of the voting when he won the MVP.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
So my only point.
Speaker 5 (09:02):
Is, Chris, just like when everybody who was the former
baseball player, was it Ccsabathia who said every every year,
just give it to show hair.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
No, I don't think it was. Yeah, it was CC.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
Okay, Yeah, just like I know you're thinking about. No,
CC said he was gonna beat Aaron Judge. You're right,
it was, Uh, it was j D. Martinez, Chris. JD
Martinez said every year, just give it to show hey.
And of course Aaron Judge beat him right one year
when they were head to head, and that they're in
different leagues, it won't matter, but Aaron Judge beat him
with the historic season.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
All I'm saying is.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Patrick Mahomes in the last five years has won one
of the MVPs. And the other two guys Aaron Rodgers
and especially Lamar who won just one vote shy of
being unanimous twice, which is incredible considering I think Chris
only two guys have done it right, Tom Brady and
and Lamar almost did it for a second time, where
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nobody's only done it once twice, which is incredible. It
really is talks about his impact and whatnot and his play.
I just I don't think it's automatic that he's gonna
be MVP.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
That's my look.
Speaker 7 (10:13):
If you're taking the quote literally, I am I gotta
go by won and yeah, of course, I mean, he's
not gonna win it every year and Michael, but that
does not.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Change the comparison to Jordan, because to your point, Jordan
didn't win it every year, and Jordan rob was. We
know he was the best player for ten straight years
and you maybe even more. And he didn't win the
MVP every year. He went multiple seasons straight without getting
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an MVP.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
And so whether it's voter fatigue, I will give you that.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
Mahomes last year did not have an MVP season, so
there's no question about that. But when I say said
Jordan esque, I mean and again it doesn't mean nobody
ever eats. Because Jordan played fifteen years thirteen with the Bulls,
he won six championships. That means seven years with the
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Bulls he didn't win it. But once he started winning,
no one else ate.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Now it's not.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
Exact because to your point, other quarterbacks Matthew Stafford, Tom
Brady have won super Bowls during the Mahomes era, if
you will, but he has been keeping a lot of
quarterbacks from eating Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, like dudes,
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he and.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
He's not gonna win even the super Bowl. He's not
gonna win it.
Speaker 4 (11:50):
Every year Tom Brady won seven that's more than any
franchise in what twenty how many years? To Brady twenty
one twenty four years, that's like one every that's thirty
something percent of the time.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
Don't even forget about it.
Speaker 5 (12:08):
And Tomboy had two separate careers because it was a
middle career and was great that individually, right individually, he
became like an elite, you know, statistically elite, where he
wasn't that early in his career, in his first few
Super Bowls.
Speaker 4 (12:26):
But my point is just that Roy, I do think
Mahomes rob. What he's doing is he is dominating the
sport to the similar degree that Michael Jordan did. It
was like it was no question who's the best player
in the league. Who cares who won it? If you
Carl Malone was never better than Michael Jordan. Charles Barkley
(12:48):
was never better than Michael Jordan. But they won MVPs
on his watch, you know. And and who Lamar is
not better than Michael or than Patrick Mahomes and.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
None of the square better. He's played better. He hasn't
thrown the ball better, but he run.
Speaker 5 (13:06):
The two years that he won unanimous better year I said.
Speaker 4 (13:12):
He played, but no one even when he plays better,
he ain't better.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Yeah, but it's not. That's not how this dude.
Speaker 4 (13:20):
Is clear the best. He's the best quarterback in the league.
Speaker 5 (13:24):
He didn't look like the nascounter back last year Christian
and playoffs winning County.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
And then here's the other part is he looked like he's.
Speaker 5 (13:31):
So great that two years in the row you voted,
you bet against him, you didn't even think he was
going to win the last two Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (13:38):
Well, there's a question mark in your mind, yes or no?
To win the Super Bowl he's the best quarterback.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
But I just robbed. That's that that I'm telling you.
Tom Brady, in my view, is the go. He won
Super Bowls about thirty percent of his career. You don't
win it every year. Joe mind said four super Bowls,
that's awesome. How many years did he not win it?
Way more than four. So even if I think Patrick
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Mahomes is the best quarterback in the league, doesn't mean
I'm gonna pick him to win the Super Bowl every
year one.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It doesn't happen too. It is a team sport.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
If you don't have the defense, if you don't have Heck,
last year he won it with some receivers that couldn't catch,
could not catch a Cole thankfully had Travis Kelsey. So
you know, if football, nobody's gonna win it every year.
But that dude's Jordan Esk. Let's see what the listeners think.
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We'll see if they can settle this eight seven, seven
ninety nine on Fox. Simple, question is Patrick Mahomes? Jordan
Esk rob not the question, I say, just not the question.
That's my question. Go ahead, you share your question. That's
my question.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Is Patrick Mahomes? Jordan ask what you got okay.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
I I thought it was based off of the the
general managers think what you're gonna win the m VP.
Either question is it's about the m VP. Is you
gonna win the m v P is and a lock?
Is it automatic? That's that's what is automatic?
Speaker 1 (15:11):
But is he gonna win the Is it his to
lose you?
Speaker 4 (15:16):
The way you want to answer is Patrick Mahomes Is
it his MVP to lose us?
Speaker 5 (15:20):
Here?
Speaker 4 (15:21):
And my question is is he Jordan esk your thoughts
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Eight seven seven ninety nine. On Fox is Patrick Mahomes?
Is it his MVP to lose every year?
Speaker 9 (16:58):
Uh?
Speaker 4 (16:59):
That's Rob's question. My question is is he Jordan esqu
what are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (17:03):
All right, let's kick it off, Chris with Darren in Montana.
You're in the Odd Couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Darren?
Speaker 3 (17:11):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
Guys, thank you so much for taking my call. Yes,
my answer is going to be kind of not answering,
but at at the same time answering. I think Patrick
Mahomes he wants rings, he wants championships.
Speaker 1 (17:24):
You can't win You.
Speaker 5 (17:25):
Can't win a champion you can't win a ring during
the regular season. Okay, so I get that, I get
I'm no, no, no, no, no, Just don't make an excuse
on whatn't win the m v P and just say
because if he didn't win that, if you when you're
playing during the regular season, he wants to play the
best that he can play.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's all I'm saying. Yeah, he's upset about last year.
He didn't he didn't have No.
Speaker 6 (17:46):
Well, exactly, he might be upset last year that he
was this and the other. Has he even won one?
Speaker 1 (17:52):
Yeah, he's got two.
Speaker 4 (17:54):
He's the only player, he's the only he's the first
athlete since Larry Bird to win three championships and two
MVPs in his first seven years.
Speaker 6 (18:04):
Okay, exactly, And so now he's going for three in
a row, which is awesome. Yeah, I think I don't.
I mean, yeah, he wants to be MVP of the
regular season. But that is not his final That is
not his final desire. I mean, like, I just don't
see it.
Speaker 3 (18:22):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I don't.
Speaker 5 (18:23):
Nobody's saying. Nobody's saying that he's going. It's about playing well.
And I think that if you ask him, did he
play well last year? And if he plays well enough
and he wins, fine, Chris. I don't think that it's
the end of the world. If you don't win an MVP,
you're not gonna win it every year. No, But you
can't tell.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
If you I mean Rob, you know, like vote Lamar Jackson.
It's not impossible for him to win it, Rob, but
he's I think he's gonna have to be so much
better than everybody else just because of voter fatigue, you
know what I mean, things like that, So all types
of stuff come in to play with MVP, no doubt.
Speaker 5 (18:58):
Marty in Kentucky, you're on on a couple of Fox
Sports waiting, what's up, Marty?
Speaker 10 (19:02):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (19:03):
Fellas?
Speaker 1 (19:04):
What up? Matt?
Speaker 10 (19:06):
Well, guys, I'm going to sound a lot like previous caller.
I feel like he's playing the end game. The thing
about I do like the comparison of him and Jordan's
we can't do it by he's got to do two
three peat for this or that because it's a single
eliminatione situation. The Bulls would have lost their first championships
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Lakers because they lost game one if it's single eliminations,
you know, so we can't compare that as far as
championships three peats. But his level of skill and talent
combined with his intelligence is jordan ness, and I know
that he has more to do to be on that level.
But the thing is he can sit back. The years
that he's won MVP, his defense hasn't been very good
(19:49):
and he had to do more. When his defense is good,
he doesn't mind setting back and managing a game to victory.
Sometimes managing a game is your best chance.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
You think he wanted to throw fourteen picks last year?
Speaker 10 (20:02):
I think he had a whole lot of brand new receivers.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
No, that's not what I asked you. Did he want
to throw fourteen picks? Couldn't catch?
Speaker 10 (20:10):
Sure he didn't, but he was he was trying to.
I mean, he was working with new guys and new
system and trying hard to make things happen, and he picked.
But I still think he's done question the best quarterback
of football.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Yeah, I'm with you there, Marty. I'm definitely with you.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
MJ.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
In New Orleans. Let's squeeze a man, you're on the
eye couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, MJ? You
know what, Marty didn't even say? Good body?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Chris like like he might not know. I don't know
if he even knows. Does it possible? He didn't sound
like he knew, but he didn't, MJ. What's up, my man?
Speaker 6 (20:46):
What's going on?
Speaker 10 (20:46):
Man?
Speaker 11 (20:46):
Welcome back?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
Robert?
Speaker 11 (20:47):
I know you're probably was going like the Parcher's family fool.
You do it the last couple of weeks. Now, I
don't know.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
Welcome back, man, Thank you?
Speaker 11 (20:56):
What's up for? What's Chris was going on?
Speaker 6 (20:58):
Man?
Speaker 11 (20:59):
I'm good think you guys are still having that same
argument because Chris kind of went out there and you know,
said that about him being Jordanes. Okay, the term Jordan
isn't deephone, this abject that refers to the gold Michael
Jeffrey Jordans.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Wait, what is it? What did you just say? The
term jordan Esque is?
Speaker 11 (21:21):
What is an bonus?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
Is a what.
Speaker 11 (21:29):
The word is bone us?
Speaker 10 (21:32):
Man?
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Just tell us what you stop reading and tell us
what give us your thoughts?
Speaker 1 (21:37):
What did you say? What you got to say?
Speaker 11 (21:39):
Well, what is describing? And I'm agree with you, Chris,
that it describes a remarkaple athletic achievement and or dominant
and that something it up perfectly providing context when he
had to work with last season, with those receivers dropping
a lot of those balls, it still was so much
so that had my home is for Radio from run
(22:01):
for the MVP seas and so much so that he's competing
against himself and what he's already done. That's all I
see it.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
All right, he said a lot ron all right, I
guess I think.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
He had a sylilock we written, all right, he wants
to get to all right, this is the Christopers are.
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He's the co host now of the Check the Mic
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Speaker 1 (22:50):
We welcome in our man Sam Monson.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Sam.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
How are you's up? Sam?
Speaker 12 (22:54):
I'm doing well, guys, how are you?
Speaker 1 (22:56):
We're great?
Speaker 4 (22:57):
Congratulations on the new job too, Yeah, I appreciate it.
Speaker 12 (23:01):
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Speaker 1 (23:11):
Absolutely, man, we'll be looking forward to listening to you.
Let's start here.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I mean, what a season we've got Patrick Mahomes and
the Kansas City Chiefs going for the first three peat
in Super Bowl history. What do you think about their
chances of getting it done? Are you like picking them
to get it done?
Speaker 6 (23:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 12 (23:29):
Look, I think the Chiefs are going into the season
in a stronger position than they were a year ago,
and we saw what they managed to do last season.
They have a great defense, They've they've got the offense,
which really struggled for a lot of the last season.
They came together late in the year and in the playoffs,
but they went and added speed to that group, and
(23:49):
they added receiving help, and they obviously drafted Xavier Worthy,
the fastest guy that's ever come into the NFL. They
bring in Hollywood Brown. Okay, he's out hurt right now,
but he'll be back stun into the season. And you
still got guys like Rashi Rice and obviously Travis Kelcey
is still there. Mahomes is still there, And that's the
single most important thing when you're talking about their chances
(24:11):
of winning a championship. But right now, you would say
the Chiefs are one of the favorites in the entire
NFL and absolutely have a real live shot at that
unprecedented Star three team.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
I want to ask you about the Texans.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
I know people have a lot of people have them
going to the Super Bowl, and I get the first
year and a rookie quarterback and rookie head coach, and
a lot of things went their way until they, you know,
got into the playoffs and played the Ravens. But I
need to see another year before I'm buying into them
going into the Super Bowl. Where are you want the Technics?
Speaker 12 (24:49):
I think that's a fair opinion. Look, the Texans were
exciting last season, but they were not expected to be
good at all. You know, this was a team that
was supposed to have one of the top two picks
in the draft before last season, and then they just
shocked everybody by being so much better than people were
expecting them to be.
Speaker 6 (25:05):
Stee J.
Speaker 12 (25:05):
Stroud was fantastic right out of the gate, Bobby Slowig
coming over from that Kyle Shanahan offensive system, bringing that
version of his offense with him. It was just an
incredible team last season. But it doesn't always continue, you know,
those guys don't just keep getting better year on year.
And maybe they'll take a slight step backwards this season
(25:27):
as opposed to just keeping on marching. And now we're
talking about a team that's really charging for a super Bowl.
They might regress a little bit next season or this
season rather, I think that's definitely a possible outcome for them.
So they're definitely approaching this like they're in a super
Bowl window already. The moves they made this offseason, bringing
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in guys like the new Hunter, Joe Mixon, Stefon Diggs,
these are not long term moves necessarily. These are moves
to win a championship right now. But they're not necessarily
the kind of the move that will make them a
huge amount better this season, particularly if a couple of
those guys do take a step forward. So, you know,
I think the Texans are a good team. I think
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they should be viewing themselves as contenders. But I think
you're right that it could easily go in the other
direction a little bit.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
You mentioned CJ.
Speaker 4 (26:18):
Stroud, and a lot of people are going to be
comparing Caleb Williams to him. What type of year do
you foresee for Caleb and the Bears, because some people
are even picking them to go as far as the
Super Bowl.
Speaker 12 (26:31):
Yeah, and that's pretty aggressive. But Caleb Williams looks like
an absolutely special talent, and I think that that's what's
getting people excited and maybe carried away a little bit.
You know, Caleb Williams as a prospect as a college
player who's getting compared to Patrick Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers.
Those are the two names that you would see a
lot at. Any time that happens, you know, you immediately
(26:52):
start to push back and say, look, this is crazy,
it's unfair, it's unrealistic. Let's tap the brakes on this.
But the comps are legit. I mean, those are the
players that he reminds you of. Those are the guys
that also do the special things that he's able to do.
We saw it in college through two different programs. We
saw it in preseason. You know, there was a three
(27:14):
play sequence where we got to see nothing but special
plays from Caleb Williams. And okay, it's it's any college,
it's onny preseason. It doesn't necessarily mean that's who's going
to be once the real game start at the NFL level.
But so far, every step of the way, he has
looked genuinely special and capable of making spectacular plays.
Speaker 10 (27:34):
So for the.
Speaker 12 (27:35):
Chicago Bears, a team that has never really had a
top tier quarterback, at least not while the game has
been broadcast in color, right.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Quist, And I'm bringing up all the time past Sid Luckman. Right,
it's been a long time.
Speaker 12 (27:50):
Right, Look, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna dump on
Sid Luckman. May the man may have been a phenomenal QB,
but this is not the same game that it was
back when sig said Luckman was playing. So the Bears
never in the Botton era had a legitimate top tier quarterback.
Caleb Williams could be their best quarterback after his rookie season.
That's genuinely achievable.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
Well, how come so many people we had people come
on here. He's not on the Chris, he's not on
his draft board, and some people were just talking about Caleb.
I thought he got was over scrutinized, like like he
played at a major college, he won a heisman, he
bit we saw what he did and people tried to
pick it apart.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
He looks the party, looks like a really good quarterback.
Speaker 12 (28:37):
Yeah, he really does. I think last season he made
some mistakes and some of his aggressive plays they got
punished a little bit in particularly that Notre Dame game.
You know, there were some times he put the ball
in the arms away and he got turnovers last season.
But I think you have to say number one, he's
playing at the very edge of his aggressiveness because he
(28:59):
knew that defense was going to give up thirty forty
points a game, and he couldn't make mistakes. If the
drive stopped, they were going to lose the game because
he couldn't afford to give up possession. So in the NFL,
he knows he's got a better defense, he's got a
better supporting gasp, he doesn't need to make every single play.
He can be a little bit more careful and a
(29:19):
little bit more conservative. But also that was the first
year that he'd ever really been punished for those types
of plays. Like he's made a career in college out
of making those Mahomes type throws and those Mahomes type decisions.
And one of the things that makes Mahomes unique is
he's really the only guy in NFL history that's been
(29:39):
able to get away with those plays every single time
so consistently. The number of times where Mahomes throws one
of those back across his body into the middle of
the field type plays and actually gets intersected or turned
over because of that, it's so much smaller than any
other quarterback in NFL history, and that's what makes him special.
(30:01):
That's what makes him Mahomes. Last year was the first
time that we saw any indication that Caleb Williams would
also be punished for them. Up until then, he'd had
this Mahomes ability to get away with all of those plays.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Who are give me two teams, one that you are
expecting to have a surprisingly good season, like that team
you know that that'll come out of nowhere worse the
first if you will, and then the team that you
expect to go the other way that you know everybody's
think is going to be good, has been to the playoffs,
you know at least last, and that they're going to
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fall off.
Speaker 1 (30:36):
What are your thoughts?
Speaker 12 (30:38):
Yeah, I think the Cardinals are my first team. The
team that could surprise people. Marvin Harrison Junior being added
to that team, Kyler Williams or Kyler Murray rather being
healthy now after that knee injury. Coming back off that
knee injury last season, you know, Marvin Harrison could transform
everything both what Kyler Murray looks like, but also helping
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the rest of that receiving call or now that they've
got a true number one, they can also to take
a step down the depth chart. Michael Wilson. I think
will be a really good player now that he can
be a number two. Terrey McBride is a really good
tight end. They've got talent in the backfield, the offensive
lines moving in the right direction. I think the coaching
staff was doing clever things last season. Anyway, that offense
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for Arizona could be really good this year, and the
defense is still a work in progress. I think they
could shock some people the team the other direction. I
could see Buffalo unraveling a little bit this year. You
know now that they've got to replace Stefon Diggs, they
haven't really done it with a true, proven number one receiver.
(31:41):
I don't know the key on Coleman is going to
be that guy. I really like Coleman as a receiver,
but I don't think he's just a prototypical X wide
receiver a guy that can replace Diggs. So that offense
is going to need to change, and I think it's
going to need to rely on Josh Allen maybe more
than it's ever done before.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
Oh.
Speaker 12 (32:00):
I think there's definitely the potential of the Bills could
struggle this year in what is still a loaded division
and a loaded conference.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
All right.
Speaker 4 (32:09):
That is Sam Monson, great stuff man, great information.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Appreciate again.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Check him out on the Check the Mic podcast for
the thirty thirteen, which is a great, great network. So Sam,
great stuff man.
Speaker 1 (32:22):
We appreciate you. We'll talk to you.
Speaker 12 (32:24):
Later in the year anytime. Guys, Take it easy, all right.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
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Speaker 1 (33:29):
All right, Chris, here we go.
Speaker 5 (33:30):
Last night the Yankees coughed it up walk off Grand
Slam by the Rangers. I said, Yankees bounce back. They
play in Arlington against the Rangers tonight. Yankees minus one
and a half runs.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
I'll take that. At the Best Bet.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
Game number two, the Dodgers and the Angels in Anaheim, Chris,
I'm going to take Anaheim plus two and a half
runs plus two and a half. The Dodgers win the game,
but only by two. Anaheim of the Angels plus two
and a half runs and finally, Game number three, I'm
gonna take the Padres at home minus one and a half.
(34:08):
They are hosting the Detroit Tigers, Chris, who turned their
season around.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
There are five.
Speaker 5 (34:12):
Hundred the Tigers, right, I mean, you know, I mean
they're still in the hunt and probably not gonna get there,
but they too little, too late. But they made the
seventy and sixty nine, which is incredible.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
Five hundred seasons.
Speaker 5 (34:25):
So Padres minus one and a half runs, Angels plus
two and a half runs, and the Yankees minus one
and a half runs. And remember, Chris brusaw it, I'm
not telling you who the bet on. I'm telling you
who I better. All Right, there you have it, Rob,
Let's go to the NFL.
Speaker 4 (34:43):
Big story has been Jamar Chase, the great ride receiver
for the Cincinnati Bengals, sitting out. I mean haven't hold ends.
I guess in practice he's been there. He hasn't been
practicing practice once last week, but then just went and
attended and watched the last few days. Well, today, Rob,
he practiced and my thought is he's going to play
(35:07):
Sunday in their season opener. I felt like and still
feel like, because I don't know if I'm right, but I.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
Feel like he'll play.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
But you know, he's trying to put the pressure on
him to get the money, but it really doesn't benefit
him at all to sit out.
Speaker 1 (35:25):
Now.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
He's only making a million dollars rob So it's not
like Brandon Ayuk who was gonna make fourteen million with
the Niners. He can you know, you think with staying
that type of loss, if he wanted to sit out
the season, but the problem is he wouldn't accrue any
a year toward free agency.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
So I think he'll play.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I don't expect him to come up with like a
phony injury, but you know, we'll see if he gets
his deal. But the Bengals, they don't Mike Brown, they
don't seem to budge on these types of things. A
pop store, Chris, and it's even beyond it.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
I mean, it's just there.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
The way they've done business, whether you know a lot
of it. They are, you know, poor owners relatively they are.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
I mean, that's that's his business, you know what I mean,
Like he's not rich off of something else.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
That's the difference.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
And you know, I give Chase credit, man, you know,
like you got to stand up and fight for yourself
sometimes Chris, and he's in an unfortunate situation because his
brotherhood and the players Union or whatever sold them such
a bad deal that it's just it's just it's unfortunate.
You have no recourse, and it's it's so heavy on
(36:43):
the ownership side. It's just it's just mind boggling that
they've put these players and then Chris, like you say,
you don't gain any time for free agency by sitting out,
You don't uh.
Speaker 1 (36:56):
You don't get paid.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
You don't get paid, and then uh, you know, and
then they still connect, they can still franchise tag you,
Chris for a couple of years after that.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
It's just it's heavy handed. One point two.
Speaker 4 (37:08):
T Higgins is going to is in that they franchised
T Higgins. He knows they're not gonna keep him next year,
but he's playing because and I don't blame you know,
he wants his money. I think it's twenty one million
or something like that. So he's got to play. But look,
Chase will get paid. Rob he remember he's only played
three years. Justin Jefferson, who was you know a year ago.
(37:31):
But Brandon Ayyuk this year, Ceedee Lamb this year, they
played four years, so I think the Bengals have every intention.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Of paying him next year, not this year.
Speaker 10 (37:44):
Now.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
Of course he can go out there and get hurt,
and that would be unfortunate, But you know, I mean,
it's it's a lot of guys. There are receivers that
have got paid after the three years, Don't get me wrong,
a few of them this year, right, And that's what
he said he saw, you know what I mean. Chris
is not like he's trying to do something that no
one's ever done. That's not what he's doing.
Speaker 5 (38:04):
He's doing stuff that other guys have done, including his
contemporaries and peers.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
The thing is this, Rob, if you're the Bengals, and
I think they feel this way now, they're so cheap
that Rob, if they won the Super Bowl this year,
they might not keep.
Speaker 5 (38:18):
Some of these great Chris, not Mike, not Mike, Okay,
Mike Brown would be.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Super Bowl Cincinnati. We got Joe Burrow, everybody else. We
were going cheap. I can see that. You're absolutely right,
But if they're gonna keep Chase long term, it actually
would benefit them to pay him now, Rob, because it's
only gonna be more expensive next year and Remember, if
you pay him now, you still get the two years
he's already old, and so over the course.
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Of the contract.
Speaker 4 (38:49):
Because it would be an extension, he wouldn't get as
much money.
Speaker 1 (38:52):
All right, keep it lock. We got two hours left.
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