April 26, 2024 • 38 mins
Chris and Rob discuss the Atlanta Falcons’ perplexing decision to draft Michael Penix Jr just months after signing Kirk Cousins to a lucrative contract in free agency, tell us why the Los Angeles Lakers’ embarrassment goes even beyond going down 0-3 to the Denver Nuggets and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, NFL analyst and author Merrill Hoge swings by to discuss the Penix Jr selection, what Caleb Williams needs to do to succeed at the next level, his biggest issue with drafting ‘projects’ like Drake Maye and much more!
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So a busy show to do. Of course, NFL Draft
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got to start here and a lot to talk about.
But first, the crowd in Detroit did you see all that?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean, that was impressive. I'm not here though, you
know me.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
They think I hate Detroit because I was a tough
columnist in that town and that the Tigers were awful of.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hate Detroit so much. You're bringing a radio station.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
There, Thank you, rob G. That's how much I hate Detroit. Right,
So were you impressed by the crowd? Was ridiculous? They
said two hundred and seventy five thousand.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Honestly, I was a little embarrassed because you're out there
to watch guys call names for four hours.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You know what, Chris? I mean, Chris, you know what,
Robb G. I'm with you on that. Can I get it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
For people, it's like a once in a lifetime kind
of thing. Sure, so it hasn't been there, so you go, okay,
you know it can't come to Detroit, And if you're
a football fan or whatever, you're not gonna go, right,
But I'm with you to stand out there and unless
I got some coal adult beverages, I mean, that is that.
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And the Lions didn't pick till twenty ninth. So can
you imagine even if you had the hometown entrant.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Right exactly right, and then when he comes out there
with the twenty third pick, the Detroit Lions select a
player you've never heard of?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah? Right, I think it was wasn'tan twenty ninth whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I mean, you know, like most of those fans who
go to those kind of events, they aren't really falling
these prospects now.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now they know the top six or seven guys all
they care.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
So he's gonna be wearing a team's UNI, and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But the biggest thing that happened in the draft, let's
talk about that, the Michael Penix junior pick.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
By the Falcons.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Uh and Rob g just break it down first, and
we'll talk about, UH, how this came about, why this
came about? Because I was with everybody else scratching it
head that didn't make any said.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
He had sent shockwave through the NFL, because, as you noted,
Rob last night, with the eighth overall pick, the Atlanta Falcons,
who just gave Kirk Cousins a four year, one hundred
and eighty million dollar contract one hundred million guaranteed, took
Michael Penis Junior, the quarterback out of Washington, had people
scratching their heads in including Kirk.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Cousins.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Agent Mike McCartney told ESPN that he was both that
Cousins was frustrated and confused by the decision because they
never told him that they were thinking of drafting a quarterback,
expecting him to use that eighth overall pick to get
someone out the team now, whether on offense or defense.
So not only were football fans and Falcon fans very confused,
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but even Kirk Cousins himself was flummixed.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And rightfully so, why would you sign an older quarterback
right and then make this move? Did you sign Kirk
Cousins rob Ge to rebuild or were you supposed to
be trying to win now or try to make some
sort of sneaky link and somehow wind up in the
in the Super Bowl or the or the NFC or
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in the NFC championship game?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
What? What? What was this? It makes no sense?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I mean, Kirk Cousins and his people have every right
to question it.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
How why what are they doing? How about getting players
to help the current quarterback that you just backed up
to brinks truck? The future is nice, but once you
signed Kirk Cousins, guess what the future is now?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's not four years from now, three years from now.
It makes no sense, Rob. I only got two words
for you. What's that? Stop it? Rob?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I know that this seems crazy on his face, And
to be honest, when I first saw the name come
across the ticker last night, I kind of had the
same feeling you did, and then I took a step
back and.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Thought about him.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
So there's three prong reason as to why I think
the Spanish junior pick. I'm not gonna say it was
the right pick, but why I don't mind the pick
all right? Number one, Kirk Cousins is in his mid
thirties and he's coming off of torn Achilles.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You shouldn't have signed him, Okay, okay, So if you're
using that, no, But here's my thing.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
He's gonna be fine because Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Has never been the kind of guy who was relying
on his athleticism or his foot speed or anything like
that to be a quarterback. He plays the game above
the shoulders, right like that's he's a He's a very cerebral,
accurate quarterback. So I think he's gonna be fine. But
in the event that he's not, you have your quarterback
now in place who has tons of experience in college,
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and he's gonna be able to perform at a high
level relative quickly. It's number one. Number two. Everyone's talking
about the contract, right. You gave him all this money,
one hundred and eighty million, one hundred million guaranteed. But
you and I know Rob that the NFL salary cap
is very fungible. It's a lot of funny money.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Is that like funions?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Exactly like fun It's just as good as funny as
to be honest with you, I would.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Have loved to have been in the room when they
were kicking around.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Let's come up with this idea for these onion basically
onion wings, right, and somebody said, you know what, they're
fun they're delicious.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I mean, Mary, you've had funions? Right?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Have you had funions? Or is that an old people
thought funians? I mean, who came up with that? They're
fired though?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Funions?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
That's the step before plants, Rob, that's right, one hundred
slap based panties.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's an original p one listener to the other. That's right.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
You know about planting plantees coming soon to an Amazon
marketplace revue. But here's number two. Okay, so the money,
it's not real money. And everyone's talking about one hundred
million dollars guarantee. But if you look at the way
his contract is structured, first two years, nothing you knew
about He's locked in basically at ninety million guaranteed cap
hits like forty five million each year, more or less.
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But in the third year, if you really wanted to
move on, it's only going to cost you twelve and
a half million dollars against the cap to move off
with Kirk Cousins, which in today's NFL is peanuts. Twelve
and a half million dollars against the gap is basically
the equivalent of what my Raiders are paying Gardner Minshew
to be a stop gap. It's what the Vikings are
paying Sam Darnold to be a stop gap. So that's
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not necessarily a big, you know, hurdle for them. And
the last one is, to me, the most important one
is the Atlanta Falcons quarterback situation has been a graveyard
for like seven years now. They had the corpse of
Matt Ryan there at the end. They had Marcus Mariota,
they had Desmond Ridder, they had Taylor Heinike. So I
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would understand why a team like the Falcons, who has
seen firsthand that if you don't have a quarterback, it
doesn't matter what the rest of your roster looks like
because you're not gonna win anyway, why they would say,
you know what, we're gonna go ahead and double down
taking a guy etherall Black triple down on the position
so that we are not stuck in this position again
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moving forward.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't buy it. That's fine.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
If you wanted to get a quarterback and you had
a pick right the eighth pick, why in the world
would you have signed Kirk Cousins coming off an injury
and the money. I hear about all that, then I
would have if I was really hell bent on getting
a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
How many quarterbacks went? There were six, right, six in
the first twelve, okay, which means only two them are
gonna be any good. So there are six, you have
the eighth pick, and if you were hell been on
getting one of those young quarterbacks, you could have moved
up without signing Kirk Cousins. Right, Could you have not
moved up and got made? If I move up to six,
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I'm gonna get at least one of those quarterbacks, sure,
and it probably would have been Pennix, right.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Yeah, if they really wanted him. Absolutely Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
So and nowadays, if you really believe in the guy
you're gonna use the first round pick, then why he
could start put him in as soon as you get
him to learn how to play. I just don't buy
into it. It's not like the Aaron Rodgerson when you
had a Hall of Fame quarterback sitting there, you just
brought in Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make sense when Aaron
Rodgers said, you had a Hall of Fame quarterback in
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front of him, right, that's the only time you should
have somebody Kirk Cousins in a Hall of Fame quarterback.
It doesn't make sense, Rob Gene. But right, this is
why the Falcons are bad. This is why they've always
been bad. This is why they choked to Tom Brady
and the patriots'na still throw that in.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Okay, but didn't Andy Reid say, and he's, you know,
supposedly the quarterback guru of this era, this generation. He said,
he's one of the guys who said the best time
to look for a quarterback is when you already have one.
Because what you don't want to do is you don't
want to be the New York Giants who didn't have
a quarterback and they reached for Daniel Jones. You don't
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want to be the Pittsburgh steel didn't have a quarterback
and they reached for a Candy Pickett. I get that,
So get the guy. If you think that Pennix can
be the guy, then why wouldn't you draft?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
But why does he need to sit a couple of
years behind somebody if you really believe he's the guy,
and you're using a first round pick because you don't.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Want to confidence?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Nah, So much of these quarterbacks is about situation more
than ability.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, But if you thought that you had a team
that was worthy of signing a free agent quarterback at
that money, Rob Ge, that tells me you're not thinking
about rebuilding. You're thinking about you have something to play
for now. Would you agree with that that you think
you have some defense and some receivers that you believe
you have something now? Not building towards the future. It
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makes no sense because he's not gonna be playing. It's
just to waste his spot. But what if he plays
in two years? Then it's like Jordan Love Okay, then
what But the difference is what you could you? Jordan
had to wait? Why did Jordan have to wait? You
had a Hall of Famer in front of him. Why
did Aaron Rodgers have to wait? You had a Hall
of Famer in front of him?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
My hands had to wait for Alex Smith and he
wasn't a Hall of Famer. What was one year? And
that was different? That was Why is that different?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That wasn't because that's not waiting. Aaron Rodgers waited three years? Uh,
Jordan Love waited three year more than a cup of
copy in this week?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Rod That's right? Do you see my point? One year
is something I got you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I if Kirk Cousins was your quarterback and you were
gonna move on from him, Rob g in a year,
then I got you?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
All right?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That makes sense? Come on, man, this doesn't make sense.
This is who they are. This is why the Falcons.
You smell lap. That's not my upper lip. That is
the Falcons.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh God, believe I'm defending the Falcon.
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Speaker 4 (15:42):
We could do these calls, but uh, just your take
on on the falcons, yeah or hey on it. Okay,
that's what I said, So we'll get more into that.
So I think it's crazy to Chris when you.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Because cause if everything goes the way you wanted to
this dude my not.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Played for three or four years. That that's exactly the pointy.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
He's gonna be darning. You get close to thirt he'll
be twenty. He's twenty four, not in a week or two.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Right, He's not your.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Two twenty eight years old by the time he plays.
If everything works.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Out with cousin, that's right, he'll be halfway to Social
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Speaker 9 (16:24):
Hey, you guys just want to say thank you for
fitting me on here. You guys are awesome, thank you
all the time, So thank you. Just kind of go
through the thing here.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
I think realistically, I think Atlanta.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Did the right things. They know exactly what they're doing.
I am not a fan of the team, but you
have to understand that a lot of these NFL organizations
are starting to figure it out that they can't just
take these rookies and just throw them in there and
hope that they want instant gratification. And that's the thing
that when the fans don't get that instant gratification, they
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go against it.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And to hear all the back, okay, he'll show on,
hold on, I hear that point, But why did you
sign an old injured quarter of the problem with the idea,
Okay that he needs talent to help. Now, it's not
a three or four year process for the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You just spent And Chris, I made the point earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
It's different when Aaron Rodgers had to sit behind a
Hall of Fame quarterback and Brett Farb or Jordan Love
has to sit behind a Hall of Fame quarterback, they
didn't have anybody there if they wanted.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
To get the old Also, Rob, I agree with you.
And when the Packers drafted Love, they would have won
thirteen games the year before they had Obviously their defense
was solid, they had receivers Devonte Adams mvs. Alan Lazar,
Aaron Jones in the back. Like, they didn't have a
ton of needs. They had made the NFC Championship game
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the year before. They just need to get over the hump.
And so Atlanta has a bunch of needs. And I
get with the callers saying if they hadn't given cut
right four years, one hundred and eighty million.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm with you, Chris, and you if you wanted to
get Penix and bring them along, you get a guardner Minshew.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I know he's with somebody, but you know, as a stopcap.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, and then you have them play next year By that,
or you should have made all the Cousins' money basically
in the first two years or so, like if he
if they cut Cousins after this season, they'd have a
forty million dollar day cap hit.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So you're not getting in the benefit of having that
young quarterback that's not making a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Right, You're not getting Tim in South Carolina. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim?
Speaker 11 (18:38):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (18:38):
First off, I want to just say, h drop Parker fan.
With everything you do, thanks for keeping it real in
sports media.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
But I got you.
Speaker 10 (18:45):
I got you in a three step process. Okay, the
Falcons are playing chess instead of checkers. First, you sign
and overpay a very mid white quarterback. Then step two,
you draft and overdraft a duel threat quarter back. Three,
wait for them to get injured, wait for mister irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
To hit you Boom, there you go.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
So this year, next year, the Falcons are drafting a
no name block quarterback from some Midwestern garbage college and
we win the NFC in two years.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah you first, that's the San Francisco forty. Now, I'm
sure they love to have that model work for it.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I like that too, Thank you. Let's go to uh
Drew in New Jersey. You're on the eye couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:29):
Drew? To me, the only way this would have made
sense is say you trade down and then like Drake
may is on the board, he's twenty one. To me,
that would be the only way it makes sense. But
just what they've done all off season, like Raheem Morris.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Okay, you.
Speaker 11 (19:49):
Sign a coach, defensive mindy coach, but then you say
no to Bill Belichick based on I don't know what,
based on what an ownership.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Based on that they were afraid he was going to
fire people in organation that hasn't won anything.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
Okay, okay, and then step two, you over sign a
quarterback that's thirty five also Acls. Okay to me, you
know what, you've never been based off of athleticism. You
know you have a defensive coordinator. I guess you could
make that work with an older quarterback. Okay, cool, But
then you sign the oldest quarterback in the draft that's
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probably the best one just to play right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Away, right No, yeah, I mean cut Look, Pendicks could
go in there and look great. They to me, they
they pretty much still have to play Cousins and obviously
it's not a competition.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I mean, Cousins is the starter peer crazy all right?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And I Rob finally, Pinis if I'm Pinnis, and he
said that he talked with Cousins last night. He said
the right thing. Sounds like he's a great guy. Pindis,
And we know cousins Is, they'll be fine. But if
I'm Michael Pinnis inside, Rob, I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Sit three years, right, it's across it a year. It's crazy,
but not in twenty four. You don't know it three years? No? No,
all right?
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All right, thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's the Eye Couple Chris and Rob live from the
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author and former NFL player Merril Hodge.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Meryl, how are what's up? Boys?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Good to hear your voice again?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, you two.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Always wait to see you at the super Bowl, and
here we are again.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
We want to talk draft, obviously mostly with you, but
we just got news that you've seen these Guardian caps
that the teams are wearing in practice to put you
over their helmets. Now the league is saying that players
can wear those in games. I don't imagine many players will,
if any. But what are your thoughts on that? That's
(22:07):
that will look incredibly bizarre if some guys are out
there with that stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Well, I do agree, agree you'll look bizarre. Listen, I
really don't know how much value there is in them,
and I mean they use them in practice, and that's
when you're not supposed to have contact, which makes sense.
The stupidity with a lot of it, actually, with what
the league does, is almost mind boggling. But I will
tell you this. I mean, there'll be a lot of
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players that won't wear them just because they don't look good.
And you know, if you're that'll bother a majority of players,
not about there be a few that end up doing it,
but I can't expect a hive percent each of them.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Merrill. How was the leather helmet that you wore during
your playing days.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
All right, I'll just you know, well, you're not that
far off, you know when I first well I first
got in the league, you know, I mean there are
players that still had those leather straps.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Wow, Mike, don't. I don't know if remember Brian Hinkle,
linebacker for the Steelers, played like fourteen years. He had
he had the leather, the love the straps and the
you know, the little circle on the top of the pad.
I think Mike Webster, he was my roommate when I
first got in the league, I think he had one.
So they were still around, you know, like the bike
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if you remember, the bike was like the big villa
in air. Yeah, had airon. And the thing that was
great about that is you never had air in it.
There always went out. So so it was just like
having a leather strapped helmet.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
All right, let's go to the draft.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We got some stuff, yeah, Meryl, I mean the big
surprise everybody was Atlanta draft in Michael Pennix junior. Obviously
they just gave four years, eight one hundred and eighty
million to Kirk Cousins. Rob and I don't think it
made sense. What were your thoughts on that.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Well, you know, now, listen, this actually happened about roughly
ten years ago with Russell Wilson. If you remember, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Mike, yeah, Matt.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
They went and got him from Green Bay. You know
that was going to be their star that got in
the draft in the third I think believe in the
third round they end up drafting Russell Wilson. Here's how
I look at it. Did Atlanta I I could look
at it two ways. Okay, did Atlanta do make them
a better football team?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
No?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Because you're telling me the pence based on that pick
that he was the best football player there. I keep
my listen, this is a team who needs a lot
of players. Keep I keep hearing this. You know, actually
their excuses, it's the This is the problem with the draft.
It's the problem with almost every organization. Also every organization.
(24:54):
I don't know anybody that does this differently. They think
they can fix things you can't pick. You know, I'll
give you one. We all know that you can't fix speed.
And everybody everybody listening to this, well, yeah yeah you can't.
You can't fix that. I could give you about a
list of about six other things you can't fix. But
teams think they can fix and we'll get to that
in a second. And you draft the kid anyway, and
(25:15):
you already know you can't fix it, but you think
you can fix it, and the history has told you
you can't fix it. Okay, So now teams win championships, okay,
and not a quarterback quarterback report. I don't think there's
anybody that's going to disagree with that. That becomes an
important component. But you still got to build the team.
Teams win championships, you need good players. So you just
(25:36):
gave up an opportunity to make a team better by
somebody that could truly come over and impact and play
for your for your team. So you actually lose that opportunity.
Now from the competitive aspect, you know, if they believe
in him, obviously believe in him that much that you
didn't draft him to sit two years. You drafted him
(25:57):
to compete, right, And that's what is lost. You know,
everybody's like, well they didn't call Kirk Cousins, and then
you want screw that. Okay, it's about competing. I mean,
it's about competing. I mean, it's it's not babyshit in league.
You got, you got millions of dollars. So they do that,
Go compete, go beat them out. So they made the
(26:18):
wrong decision. Okay, you know a compound what they just did,
don't And I just I just don't get that. That's
how you become That's how you get the best out
of your players. That's how the that's how you create
the best team, especially if you make it a true
competition and you start the guy that's your best player,
and that that that anlies some other politics and issues
(26:40):
that go along with the two, like who's going to
be really in charge? And you know that oftentimes does
not happen. The best player doesn't always.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, is not gonna like it. But I spent all
that money on cousins. Hey, Merrill, what is it? Okay?
I get it.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Without a quarterback, you're basically dead as a team if
you don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
But the misses, there have been so many misses on quarterbacks,
and a lot of guys Willson with the Jets, Sam Darnold,
I could just go, it's just very olda. It's just
a graveyard of these picks. Why is it so difficult
for these guys? And I'm not saying you any home
run on all of them. But it's like I say,
(27:24):
seventy five percent fail or don't make it. You know,
the expectations that you think and twenty five dude, why
is it so big on the quarterback a position?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Well, you know, you can look at it. It's really across
the board. Now, these are the These are actually the
numbers in the history of our game, not the last
five years, of the last ten years, not last year.
Point oh one six percent of players that are eligible
to get drafted get drafted.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Of that those players to get drafted, only thirty percent
make it. And that is in the history of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
When you look at the quarterback position, you know obviously
that is a difficult position. And here's I think where
the biggest problem is is you people evaluate where they played,
not where they're gonna play. And that's the biggest problem. Well,
I hear all the time, I go, man, got a
big arm. Okay, you know, honestly irrelevant, especially when you
(28:21):
never know where it's gonna go. Okay, and boy he
can run around in our league, that's somewhat irrelevant. Okay,
he de nice to have. But take Tom Brady's ten
Super bowls. I guarantee you he doesn't have forty yards
rushing in ten Super Bowls. Okay, So, and history tells
you that you had better win from the pocket and
(28:42):
be able to throw the football. Shoot, the greatest example
of that is Kansas City made Lamar Jackson play quarterback.
And they made Lamar Jackson play quarterback when it mattered,
and Lamar Jackson does not function well from the pocket
from a processing sitting there reading things to picky through
is the greatest example. Shoot had a stutter go on
the outside with off coverage. He actually attempted to throw that,
(29:08):
not to waste the time. It's over. You're on the
twenty yard line. You ain't gonna throw that, so he's
late to the guy he the ultimately ends up throwing,
which is probably wasn't a bad decision had he made
it quicker, but had he went through his progression. He
has a crossing route.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Coming wide open with no pressure on me.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
He makes the way. So eventually got to do that.
You got to play from the pocket. And I just
see and I'm well, he's not really Okay, let's use
the may kids from North Carolina. He is a ratic everywhere.
He's a ratic from a clean pocket, a dirty pocket,
short intermediate.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You don't like him, you don't like that. Pick by
New England at three Drake May, I am.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Telling you because you can't fix the issues he has.
Now you'll get people go, We'll fix he's accuracy. Okay,
that is one hundred percent garbage. You can make it
a little better, but he will always be inconsistent. He
is an inconsistent Pastor's always been inconsistent pastor. Okay, his
history shows that, not just last year, every time his
entire college career. He was like that. You don't fix,
(30:11):
you don't fix those type of flaws that are that major.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Okay, So we got.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We got about a minute for this last answer. So
I hear Caleb Williams, obviously number one pick a lot
of expectations. People talk about quote unquote fixing his ability
to play on schedule because he obviously does a lot
off schedule.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What are your thoughts on Williams.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Well, that's that's the that's the the lynchpin for him
and the Ardoris journey for him. How could he learn
to play from the pocket because his accuracy is the
league his elusive us his elite. However, his elusiveness gets
him into trouble out he only talked about his team,
wasn't that good. He hurt his team a lot too.
But putting the ball on the ground because he's always
(30:52):
in one hand, he doesn't take care of it when
he's running around. He is going to have to take
what has helped him win a Heisman trophy and he's
been rewarded it for and he's going to have to
make that a last choice, not a first choice, or
a choice that he wants to do it when he
wants to do it in our league. He's going to
have to learn to play in structure because he's gonna
have plenty of times when that structure doesn't work and
(31:13):
he can get to it right, but learning to work,
and I mean, you got to get the kid a
couple of years for that. He ain't gonna just get
that done any year. Their office line is not going
to be very good. So it's going to challenge him
even further because he's going to put be put in
those we got to fight fight or flight, and and
and just the feeling of our pocket in the NFL
throws from a dirty pocket with pressure around you, he's
(31:33):
going to feel like fight and flight when he shouldn't.
And he's got to be able to throw the football.
So getting over that hurdle and learning to play there,
that's big. If he can do that, I think he
could be special. I really do. But that is a
massive hurdle. That is a big ask. And there's will
have been two guys in the last five years that
had that skill set transfer, and that's Burrow and c. J.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
Strout.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
All right, all right, thanks, great stuff is all boys
appreciate anytime. Yeah, Rob, the outcome was not alarming last
night in Los Angeles, but there was something else that
was alarming with the Lakers, and we'll get to that next.
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Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's time for Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
All right, little Shekel City, let's start here, NBA. I
got the fee Nick Suns tonight over the tea walls,
taking the Sons minus five and a half. Chris, my
best bet, Clippers are in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Well, you got Minnesota. You said the Phoenix beating Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
No, I got the Suns. Yeah, I got the Sons
minus five and a half. Yeah, I do. Well, there's
seasons on the line.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I agree, they don't win one if they don't win
the night, Chris, they ain't not winning the game. I
just think Clippers plus four and a half. I'm gonna
take the Clippers plus four and a half on the road.
Dallas might win, but might be close. No, but Dallas
might win, but I'll take it close. You haven't bet
against the Clippers in years?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No a half? Yes and half. I've been picking it
for four years for sure. You're right.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
And last, I'm gonna take the Yankees minus one and
a half runs, Chris. They are on the road in Milwaukee.
That game is gonna be starting pretty soon. So Yankees
minus one and a half runs, Clippers plus four and
a half, and the Sun is minus five and a half.
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you why I bet on but one team.
(34:06):
I've been right about Chris and these NBA playoffs, About
those Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, did you call the sweep? Remember you said five?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I said yep, because I thought that I picked them
losing last night.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But I thought they'd get one game. But now I'm
not convinced.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Look now, rob right, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I'll be surprised if they win Game four. Look on
the We're just gonna have to wait and see which
Laker teams comes out, because on the one hand, they
might want to muster up all the pride and competitive
spirit they have and say we're not gonna get swept again.
On the other hand, they could be like inside, they
(34:47):
won't voice it, but they don't have any choice because
right about right, if they could bring everything they got
get beat, I mean, come on, eleven straight times and
and everything's the same.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
It's almost robed.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And I know they're not doing this, but it almost
comes off like Denver's taunting them by the first right, right,
it's like we we we have no fear of you guys.
I mean, we can turn it on whenever we were.
If I was playing my little nephew.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Right, you could let that, y'all. You can grab a
little lead. Oh you might beat me, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, no psych and here here we go and take this.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
For Rob g and Laker, it's like groundhog Day because
every game seems to be the same, Like they leading
the first time, you feel good.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
About him and then boom, it's all over. They've led
every game at halftime.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But Rob, look last night, D'Angelo Russell, we know he
is not a playoff performer. He played shot the ball
well seven threes in game two.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's it. Last night, Rob, he.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Plays twenty four minutes oh for seven from the floor,
oh for six from three, zero points in an NBA.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Games Zero points?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And Rob what made it even worse a few minutes
left in the game. I mean, look, they were we
all knew they were going to lose, but it was like,
what seven point game or something like that.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's an unprofessional quurch. I know what you're going to talk.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
About, sitting he's out of the huddle and it looked
like he was eating. Some people think he was on
the phone. Either way, I don't care what it is.
First of all, why is food even available? Why are
the bones available? To play like? This is ridiculous? But Rob,
even if they were like why Rob, I'm gonna say this,
(36:36):
there's only one reason. If I was running the Lakers,
coach GM whatever, and I leave it up to the coach.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But if I was a coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I would bench, not only bench Danzel Russell, but I
would not even let him suit up. But here, here's
the reason I wouldn't do that. I mean, that's what
I want to do. But the only reason I wouldn't
is because I don't want to completely destroy his trade value.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Because I'm trying to train me. Because you're right, Because people,
that's the only reason I wouldn't do it. You're right.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
They'll be like, uh oh, yes, They'll be like, he's
not somebody we want. And then you know I've said
this to you a thousand times. He'll play so great.
You'll go like, how's he been on ten teams?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
You always ask yourself like he's been around all over
the place. But but that was bad.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
And the other thing to Chris, you can't remember the
thing he did with Nick Young row Low character.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm sorry and you can't. And then to be a
no show. Chris, it's not just about the media. You're
not stiffing us. Guess what you're making Your teammates have
to answer for your performance. If I'm a coach or
a general manager. When he scores thirty five, go home.
No media for you, because that's not fair to his teammates.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
You're talking about when he wouldn't talk to the media.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yea last night, Like what are you doing that you
put when you score? Are you're not available? You're not available?
No that I get you, I get you, all right.
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So a busy show to do. Of course, NFL Draft
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(02:35):
got to start here and a lot to talk about.
But first, the crowd in Detroit did you see all that?
Speaker 3 (02:46):
I mean, that was impressive. I'm not here though, you
know me.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
They think I hate Detroit because I was a tough
columnist in that town and that the Tigers were awful of.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Hate Detroit so much. You're bringing a radio station.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
There, Thank you, rob G. That's how much I hate Detroit. Right,
So were you impressed by the crowd? Was ridiculous? They
said two hundred and seventy five thousand.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Honestly, I was a little embarrassed because you're out there
to watch guys call names for four hours.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
You know what, Chris? I mean, Chris, you know what,
Robb G. I'm with you on that. Can I get it? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (03:18):
For people, it's like a once in a lifetime kind
of thing. Sure, so it hasn't been there, so you go, okay,
you know it can't come to Detroit, And if you're
a football fan or whatever, you're not gonna go, right,
But I'm with you to stand out there and unless
I got some coal adult beverages, I mean, that is that.
(03:39):
And the Lions didn't pick till twenty ninth. So can
you imagine even if you had the hometown entrant.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
Right exactly right, and then when he comes out there
with the twenty third pick, the Detroit Lions select a
player you've never heard of?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah? Right, I think it was wasn'tan twenty ninth whatever.
Speaker 5 (03:55):
I mean, you know, like most of those fans who
go to those kind of events, they aren't really falling
these prospects now.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Now they know the top six or seven guys all
they care.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
So he's gonna be wearing a team's UNI, and that's
all that matters.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
All right.
Speaker 4 (04:08):
But the biggest thing that happened in the draft, let's
talk about that, the Michael Penix junior pick.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
By the Falcons.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Uh and Rob g just break it down first, and
we'll talk about, UH, how this came about, why this
came about? Because I was with everybody else scratching it
head that didn't make any said.
Speaker 5 (04:29):
He had sent shockwave through the NFL, because, as you noted,
Rob last night, with the eighth overall pick, the Atlanta Falcons,
who just gave Kirk Cousins a four year, one hundred
and eighty million dollar contract one hundred million guaranteed, took
Michael Penis Junior, the quarterback out of Washington, had people
scratching their heads in including Kirk.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Cousins.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Agent Mike McCartney told ESPN that he was both that
Cousins was frustrated and confused by the decision because they
never told him that they were thinking of drafting a quarterback,
expecting him to use that eighth overall pick to get
someone out the team now, whether on offense or defense.
So not only were football fans and Falcon fans very confused,
(05:11):
but even Kirk Cousins himself was flummixed.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
And rightfully so, why would you sign an older quarterback
right and then make this move? Did you sign Kirk
Cousins rob Ge to rebuild or were you supposed to
be trying to win now or try to make some
sort of sneaky link and somehow wind up in the
in the Super Bowl or the or the NFC or
(05:37):
in the NFC championship game?
Speaker 3 (05:39):
What? What? What was this? It makes no sense?
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I mean, Kirk Cousins and his people have every right
to question it.
Speaker 6 (05:50):
How why what are they doing? How about getting players
to help the current quarterback that you just backed up
to brinks truck? The future is nice, but once you
signed Kirk Cousins, guess what the future is now?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's not four years from now, three years from now.
It makes no sense, Rob. I only got two words
for you. What's that? Stop it? Rob?
Speaker 5 (06:17):
I know that this seems crazy on his face, And
to be honest, when I first saw the name come
across the ticker last night, I kind of had the
same feeling you did, and then I took a step
back and.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Thought about him.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
So there's three prong reason as to why I think
the Spanish junior pick. I'm not gonna say it was
the right pick, but why I don't mind the pick
all right? Number one, Kirk Cousins is in his mid
thirties and he's coming off of torn Achilles.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
You shouldn't have signed him, Okay, okay, So if you're
using that, no, But here's my thing.
Speaker 7 (06:49):
I think.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
He's gonna be fine because Kirk Cousins.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Has never been the kind of guy who was relying
on his athleticism or his foot speed or anything like
that to be a quarterback. He plays the game above
the shoulders, right like that's he's a He's a very cerebral,
accurate quarterback. So I think he's gonna be fine. But
in the event that he's not, you have your quarterback
now in place who has tons of experience in college,
(07:14):
and he's gonna be able to perform at a high
level relative quickly. It's number one. Number two. Everyone's talking
about the contract, right. You gave him all this money,
one hundred and eighty million, one hundred million guaranteed. But
you and I know Rob that the NFL salary cap
is very fungible. It's a lot of funny money.
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Is that like funions?
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Exactly like fun It's just as good as funny as
to be honest with you, I would.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Have loved to have been in the room when they
were kicking around.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Let's come up with this idea for these onion basically
onion wings, right, and somebody said, you know what, they're
fun they're delicious.
Speaker 3 (07:49):
I mean, Mary, you've had funions? Right?
Speaker 4 (07:53):
Have you had funions? Or is that an old people
thought funians? I mean, who came up with that? They're
fired though?
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Funions?
Speaker 5 (08:00):
That's the step before plants, Rob, that's right, one hundred
slap based panties.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
That's an original p one listener to the other. That's right.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
You know about planting plantees coming soon to an Amazon
marketplace revue. But here's number two. Okay, so the money,
it's not real money. And everyone's talking about one hundred
million dollars guarantee. But if you look at the way
his contract is structured, first two years, nothing you knew
about He's locked in basically at ninety million guaranteed cap
hits like forty five million each year, more or less.
(08:28):
But in the third year, if you really wanted to
move on, it's only going to cost you twelve and
a half million dollars against the cap to move off
with Kirk Cousins, which in today's NFL is peanuts. Twelve
and a half million dollars against the gap is basically
the equivalent of what my Raiders are paying Gardner Minshew
to be a stop gap. It's what the Vikings are
paying Sam Darnold to be a stop gap. So that's
(08:50):
not necessarily a big, you know, hurdle for them. And
the last one is, to me, the most important one
is the Atlanta Falcons quarterback situation has been a graveyard
for like seven years now. They had the corpse of
Matt Ryan there at the end. They had Marcus Mariota,
they had Desmond Ridder, they had Taylor Heinike. So I
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would understand why a team like the Falcons, who has
seen firsthand that if you don't have a quarterback, it
doesn't matter what the rest of your roster looks like
because you're not gonna win anyway, why they would say,
you know what, we're gonna go ahead and double down
taking a guy etherall Black triple down on the position
so that we are not stuck in this position again
(09:34):
moving forward.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
I don't buy it. That's fine.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
If you wanted to get a quarterback and you had
a pick right the eighth pick, why in the world
would you have signed Kirk Cousins coming off an injury
and the money. I hear about all that, then I
would have if I was really hell bent on getting
a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (09:53):
Right.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
How many quarterbacks went? There were six, right, six in
the first twelve, okay, which means only two them are
gonna be any good. So there are six, you have
the eighth pick, and if you were hell been on
getting one of those young quarterbacks, you could have moved
up without signing Kirk Cousins. Right, Could you have not
moved up and got made? If I move up to six,
(10:14):
I'm gonna get at least one of those quarterbacks, sure,
and it probably would have been Pennix, right.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
Yeah, if they really wanted him. Absolutely Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
So and nowadays, if you really believe in the guy
you're gonna use the first round pick, then why he
could start put him in as soon as you get
him to learn how to play. I just don't buy
into it. It's not like the Aaron Rodgerson when you
had a Hall of Fame quarterback sitting there, you just
brought in Kirk Cousins. It doesn't make sense when Aaron
Rodgers said, you had a Hall of Fame quarterback in
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front of him, right, that's the only time you should
have somebody Kirk Cousins in a Hall of Fame quarterback.
It doesn't make sense, Rob Gene. But right, this is
why the Falcons are bad. This is why they've always
been bad. This is why they choked to Tom Brady
and the patriots'na still throw that in.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
Okay, but didn't Andy Reid say, and he's, you know,
supposedly the quarterback guru of this era, this generation. He said,
he's one of the guys who said the best time
to look for a quarterback is when you already have one.
Because what you don't want to do is you don't
want to be the New York Giants who didn't have
a quarterback and they reached for Daniel Jones. You don't
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want to be the Pittsburgh steel didn't have a quarterback
and they reached for a Candy Pickett. I get that,
So get the guy. If you think that Pennix can
be the guy, then why wouldn't you draft?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
But why does he need to sit a couple of
years behind somebody if you really believe he's the guy,
and you're using a first round pick because you don't.
Speaker 3 (11:38):
Want to confidence?
Speaker 5 (11:40):
Nah, So much of these quarterbacks is about situation more
than ability.
Speaker 4 (11:45):
Yeah, But if you thought that you had a team
that was worthy of signing a free agent quarterback at
that money, Rob Ge, that tells me you're not thinking
about rebuilding. You're thinking about you have something to play
for now. Would you agree with that that you think
you have some defense and some receivers that you believe
you have something now? Not building towards the future. It
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makes no sense because he's not gonna be playing. It's
just to waste his spot. But what if he plays
in two years? Then it's like Jordan Love Okay, then
what But the difference is what you could you? Jordan
had to wait? Why did Jordan have to wait? You
had a Hall of Famer in front of him. Why
did Aaron Rodgers have to wait? You had a Hall
of Famer in front of him?
Speaker 3 (12:28):
My hands had to wait for Alex Smith and he
wasn't a Hall of Famer. What was one year? And
that was different? That was Why is that different?
Speaker 7 (12:35):
No?
Speaker 4 (12:35):
That wasn't because that's not waiting. Aaron Rodgers waited three years? Uh,
Jordan Love waited three year more than a cup of
copy in this week?
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Rod That's right? Do you see my point? One year
is something I got you.
Speaker 4 (12:48):
I if Kirk Cousins was your quarterback and you were
gonna move on from him, Rob g in a year,
then I got you?
Speaker 3 (12:55):
All right?
Speaker 4 (12:56):
That makes sense? Come on, man, this doesn't make sense.
This is who they are. This is why the Falcons.
You smell lap. That's not my upper lip. That is
the Falcons.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Oh God, believe I'm defending the Falcon.
Speaker 4 (13:10):
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What's up? Chris? How are you? What's up?
Speaker 1 (15:27):
Man?
Speaker 3 (15:27):
I have some technical difficulties. Yes, my modem or something
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Speaker 1 (15:32):
Con Rex went out earlier today and I couldn't get
it fixed until now.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
All right, So yeah, I'm ready to rock and roll.
All right real quick.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
We could do these calls, but uh, just your take
on on the falcons, yeah or hey on it. Okay,
that's what I said, So we'll get more into that.
So I think it's crazy to Chris when you.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Because cause if everything goes the way you wanted to
this dude my not.
Speaker 3 (16:00):
Played for three or four years. That that's exactly the pointy.
Speaker 1 (16:02):
He's gonna be darning. You get close to thirt he'll
be twenty. He's twenty four, not in a week or two.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Right, He's not your.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Two twenty eight years old by the time he plays.
If everything works.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
Out with cousin, that's right, he'll be halfway to Social
Security by the time he plays. All right, eight seven,
seven ninety nine On Fox Sean in Minnesota, you're in
the couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 9 (16:24):
Hey, you guys just want to say thank you for
fitting me on here. You guys are awesome, thank you
all the time, So thank you. Just kind of go
through the thing here.
Speaker 10 (16:32):
I think realistically, I think Atlanta.
Speaker 9 (16:35):
Did the right things. They know exactly what they're doing.
I am not a fan of the team, but you
have to understand that a lot of these NFL organizations
are starting to figure it out that they can't just
take these rookies and just throw them in there and
hope that they want instant gratification. And that's the thing
that when the fans don't get that instant gratification, they
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go against it.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
And to hear all the back, okay, he'll show on,
hold on, I hear that point, But why did you
sign an old injured quarter of the problem with the idea,
Okay that he needs talent to help. Now, it's not
a three or four year process for the quarterback.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You just spent And Chris, I made the point earlier.
Speaker 4 (17:16):
It's different when Aaron Rodgers had to sit behind a
Hall of Fame quarterback and Brett Farb or Jordan Love
has to sit behind a Hall of Fame quarterback, they
didn't have anybody there if they wanted.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
To get the old Also, Rob, I agree with you.
And when the Packers drafted Love, they would have won
thirteen games the year before they had Obviously their defense
was solid, they had receivers Devonte Adams mvs. Alan Lazar,
Aaron Jones in the back. Like, they didn't have a
ton of needs. They had made the NFC Championship game
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the year before. They just need to get over the hump.
And so Atlanta has a bunch of needs. And I
get with the callers saying if they hadn't given cut
right four years, one hundred and eighty million.
Speaker 4 (18:02):
I'm with you, Chris, and you if you wanted to
get Penix and bring them along, you get a guardner Minshew.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I know he's with somebody, but you know, as a stopcap.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Yeah, and then you have them play next year By that,
or you should have made all the Cousins' money basically
in the first two years or so, like if he
if they cut Cousins after this season, they'd have a
forty million dollar day cap hit.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
So you're not getting in the benefit of having that
young quarterback that's not making a lot of money.
Speaker 4 (18:32):
Right, You're not getting Tim in South Carolina. You're on
the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, Tim?
Speaker 11 (18:38):
Hey?
Speaker 10 (18:38):
First off, I want to just say, h drop Parker fan.
With everything you do, thanks for keeping it real in
sports media.
Speaker 7 (18:43):
But I got you.
Speaker 10 (18:45):
I got you in a three step process. Okay, the
Falcons are playing chess instead of checkers. First, you sign
and overpay a very mid white quarterback. Then step two,
you draft and overdraft a duel threat quarter back. Three,
wait for them to get injured, wait for mister irrelevant.
Speaker 7 (19:04):
To hit you Boom, there you go.
Speaker 10 (19:06):
So this year, next year, the Falcons are drafting a
no name block quarterback from some Midwestern garbage college and
we win the NFC in two years.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah you first, that's the San Francisco forty. Now, I'm
sure they love to have that model work for it.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
I like that too, Thank you. Let's go to uh
Drew in New Jersey. You're on the eye couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
What's up?
Speaker 11 (19:29):
Drew? To me, the only way this would have made
sense is say you trade down and then like Drake
may is on the board, he's twenty one. To me,
that would be the only way it makes sense. But
just what they've done all off season, like Raheem Morris.
Speaker 10 (19:46):
Okay, you.
Speaker 11 (19:49):
Sign a coach, defensive mindy coach, but then you say
no to Bill Belichick based on I don't know what,
based on what an ownership.
Speaker 4 (19:57):
Based on that they were afraid he was going to
fire people in organation that hasn't won anything.
Speaker 11 (20:01):
Okay, okay, and then step two, you over sign a
quarterback that's thirty five also Acls. Okay to me, you
know what, you've never been based off of athleticism. You
know you have a defensive coordinator. I guess you could
make that work with an older quarterback. Okay, cool, But
then you sign the oldest quarterback in the draft that's
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probably the best one just to play right.
Speaker 1 (20:25):
Away, right No, yeah, I mean cut Look, Pendicks could
go in there and look great. They to me, they
they pretty much still have to play Cousins and obviously
it's not a competition.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
I mean, Cousins is the starter peer crazy all right?
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And I Rob finally, Pinis if I'm Pinnis, and he
said that he talked with Cousins last night. He said
the right thing. Sounds like he's a great guy. Pindis,
And we know cousins Is, they'll be fine. But if
I'm Michael Pinnis inside, Rob, I don't want to.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Sit three years, right, it's across it a year. It's crazy,
but not in twenty four. You don't know it three years? No? No,
all right?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
Uh, it is the Eye Couple Chris and Rob. Merril
Hodge is around the corner. But first, Steve, disagree with
the update, Steve.
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Speaker 3 (21:23):
All right, thank you, Steve.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
It's the Eye Couple Chris and Rob live from the
tire Rack dot Com studios. Our next guest, NFL analyst,
author and former NFL player Merril Hodge.
Speaker 3 (21:34):
Meryl, how are what's up? Boys?
Speaker 7 (21:37):
Good to hear your voice again?
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Yeah, you two.
Speaker 4 (21:39):
Always wait to see you at the super Bowl, and
here we are again.
Speaker 7 (21:44):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
We want to talk draft, obviously mostly with you, but
we just got news that you've seen these Guardian caps
that the teams are wearing in practice to put you
over their helmets. Now the league is saying that players
can wear those in games. I don't imagine many players will,
if any. But what are your thoughts on that? That's
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that will look incredibly bizarre if some guys are out
there with that stuff.
Speaker 7 (22:12):
Well, I do agree, agree you'll look bizarre. Listen, I
really don't know how much value there is in them,
and I mean they use them in practice, and that's
when you're not supposed to have contact, which makes sense.
The stupidity with a lot of it, actually, with what
the league does, is almost mind boggling. But I will
tell you this. I mean, there'll be a lot of
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players that won't wear them just because they don't look good.
And you know, if you're that'll bother a majority of players,
not about there be a few that end up doing it,
but I can't expect a hive percent each of them.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Merrill. How was the leather helmet that you wore during
your playing days.
Speaker 12 (22:53):
All right, I'll just you know, well, you're not that
far off, you know when I first well I first
got in the league, you know, I mean there are
players that still had those leather straps.
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Wow, Mike, don't. I don't know if remember Brian Hinkle,
linebacker for the Steelers, played like fourteen years. He had
he had the leather, the love the straps and the
you know, the little circle on the top of the pad.
I think Mike Webster, he was my roommate when I
first got in the league, I think he had one.
So they were still around, you know, like the bike
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if you remember, the bike was like the big villa
in air. Yeah, had airon. And the thing that was
great about that is you never had air in it.
There always went out. So so it was just like
having a leather strapped helmet.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
All right, let's go to the draft.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
We got some stuff, yeah, Meryl, I mean the big
surprise everybody was Atlanta draft in Michael Pennix junior. Obviously
they just gave four years, eight one hundred and eighty
million to Kirk Cousins. Rob and I don't think it
made sense. What were your thoughts on that.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Well, you know, now, listen, this actually happened about roughly
ten years ago with Russell Wilson. If you remember, yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
Mike, yeah, Matt.
Speaker 7 (24:13):
They went and got him from Green Bay. You know
that was going to be their star that got in
the draft in the third I think believe in the
third round they end up drafting Russell Wilson. Here's how
I look at it. Did Atlanta I I could look
at it two ways. Okay, did Atlanta do make them
a better football team?
Speaker 3 (24:33):
No?
Speaker 7 (24:34):
Because you're telling me the pence based on that pick
that he was the best football player there. I keep
my listen, this is a team who needs a lot
of players. Keep I keep hearing this. You know, actually
their excuses, it's the This is the problem with the draft.
It's the problem with almost every organization. Also every organization.
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I don't know anybody that does this differently. They think
they can fix things you can't pick. You know, I'll
give you one. We all know that you can't fix speed.
And everybody everybody listening to this, well, yeah yeah you can't.
You can't fix that. I could give you about a
list of about six other things you can't fix. But
teams think they can fix and we'll get to that
in a second. And you draft the kid anyway, and
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you already know you can't fix it, but you think
you can fix it, and the history has told you
you can't fix it. Okay, So now teams win championships, okay,
and not a quarterback quarterback report. I don't think there's
anybody that's going to disagree with that. That becomes an
important component. But you still got to build the team.
Teams win championships, you need good players. So you just
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gave up an opportunity to make a team better by
somebody that could truly come over and impact and play
for your for your team. So you actually lose that opportunity.
Now from the competitive aspect, you know, if they believe
in him, obviously believe in him that much that you
didn't draft him to sit two years. You drafted him
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to compete, right, And that's what is lost. You know,
everybody's like, well they didn't call Kirk Cousins, and then
you want screw that. Okay, it's about competing. I mean,
it's about competing. I mean, it's it's not babyshit in league.
You got, you got millions of dollars. So they do that,
Go compete, go beat them out. So they made the
(26:18):
wrong decision. Okay, you know a compound what they just did,
don't And I just I just don't get that. That's
how you become That's how you get the best out
of your players. That's how the that's how you create
the best team, especially if you make it a true
competition and you start the guy that's your best player,
and that that that anlies some other politics and issues
(26:40):
that go along with the two, like who's going to
be really in charge? And you know that oftentimes does
not happen. The best player doesn't always.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Yeah, is not gonna like it. But I spent all
that money on cousins. Hey, Merrill, what is it? Okay?
I get it.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
Without a quarterback, you're basically dead as a team if
you don't have a quarterback.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
I get that.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
But the misses, there have been so many misses on quarterbacks,
and a lot of guys Willson with the Jets, Sam Darnold,
I could just go, it's just very olda. It's just
a graveyard of these picks. Why is it so difficult
for these guys? And I'm not saying you any home
run on all of them. But it's like I say,
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seventy five percent fail or don't make it. You know,
the expectations that you think and twenty five dude, why
is it so big on the quarterback a position?
Speaker 7 (27:36):
Well, you know, you can look at it. It's really across
the board. Now, these are the These are actually the
numbers in the history of our game, not the last
five years, of the last ten years, not last year.
Point oh one six percent of players that are eligible
to get drafted get drafted.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (27:52):
Of that those players to get drafted, only thirty percent
make it. And that is in the history of the game.
Speaker 3 (27:58):
Wow.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
When you look at the quarterback position, you know obviously
that is a difficult position. And here's I think where
the biggest problem is is you people evaluate where they played,
not where they're gonna play. And that's the biggest problem. Well,
I hear all the time, I go, man, got a
big arm. Okay, you know, honestly irrelevant, especially when you
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never know where it's gonna go. Okay, and boy he
can run around in our league, that's somewhat irrelevant. Okay,
he de nice to have. But take Tom Brady's ten
Super bowls. I guarantee you he doesn't have forty yards
rushing in ten Super Bowls. Okay, So, and history tells
you that you had better win from the pocket and
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be able to throw the football. Shoot, the greatest example
of that is Kansas City made Lamar Jackson play quarterback.
And they made Lamar Jackson play quarterback when it mattered,
and Lamar Jackson does not function well from the pocket
from a processing sitting there reading things to picky through
is the greatest example. Shoot had a stutter go on
the outside with off coverage. He actually attempted to throw that,
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not to waste the time. It's over. You're on the
twenty yard line. You ain't gonna throw that, so he's
late to the guy he the ultimately ends up throwing,
which is probably wasn't a bad decision had he made
it quicker, but had he went through his progression. He
has a crossing route.
Speaker 10 (29:21):
Coming wide open with no pressure on me.
Speaker 7 (29:23):
He makes the way. So eventually got to do that.
You got to play from the pocket. And I just
see and I'm well, he's not really Okay, let's use
the may kids from North Carolina. He is a ratic everywhere.
He's a ratic from a clean pocket, a dirty pocket,
short intermediate.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
You don't like him, you don't like that. Pick by
New England at three Drake May, I am.
Speaker 7 (29:46):
Telling you because you can't fix the issues he has.
Now you'll get people go, We'll fix he's accuracy. Okay,
that is one hundred percent garbage. You can make it
a little better, but he will always be inconsistent. He
is an inconsistent Pastor's always been inconsistent pastor. Okay, his
history shows that, not just last year, every time his
entire college career. He was like that. You don't fix,
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you don't fix those type of flaws that are that major.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Okay, So we got.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
We got about a minute for this last answer. So
I hear Caleb Williams, obviously number one pick a lot
of expectations. People talk about quote unquote fixing his ability
to play on schedule because he obviously does a lot
off schedule.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
What are your thoughts on Williams.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
Well, that's that's the that's the the lynchpin for him
and the Ardoris journey for him. How could he learn
to play from the pocket because his accuracy is the
league his elusive us his elite. However, his elusiveness gets
him into trouble out he only talked about his team,
wasn't that good. He hurt his team a lot too.
But putting the ball on the ground because he's always
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in one hand, he doesn't take care of it when
he's running around. He is going to have to take
what has helped him win a Heisman trophy and he's
been rewarded it for and he's going to have to
make that a last choice, not a first choice, or
a choice that he wants to do it when he
wants to do it in our league. He's going to
have to learn to play in structure because he's gonna
have plenty of times when that structure doesn't work and
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he can get to it right, but learning to work,
and I mean, you got to get the kid a
couple of years for that. He ain't gonna just get
that done any year. Their office line is not going
to be very good. So it's going to challenge him
even further because he's going to put be put in
those we got to fight fight or flight, and and
and just the feeling of our pocket in the NFL
throws from a dirty pocket with pressure around you, he's
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going to feel like fight and flight when he shouldn't.
And he's got to be able to throw the football.
So getting over that hurdle and learning to play there,
that's big. If he can do that, I think he
could be special. I really do. But that is a
massive hurdle. That is a big ask. And there's will
have been two guys in the last five years that
had that skill set transfer, and that's Burrow and c. J.
Speaker 10 (31:51):
Strout.
Speaker 1 (31:52):
All right, all right, thanks, great stuff is all boys
appreciate anytime. Yeah, Rob, the outcome was not alarming last
night in Los Angeles, but there was something else that
was alarming with the Lakers, and we'll get to that next.
Speaker 3 (32:10):
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Speaker 3 (32:53):
It's time for Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
All right, little Shekel City, let's start here, NBA. I
got the fee Nick Suns tonight over the tea walls,
taking the Sons minus five and a half. Chris, my
best bet, Clippers are in Dallas.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Well, you got Minnesota. You said the Phoenix beating Minnesota.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
No, I got the Suns. Yeah, I got the Sons
minus five and a half. Yeah, I do. Well, there's
seasons on the line.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
I agree, they don't win one if they don't win
the night, Chris, they ain't not winning the game. I
just think Clippers plus four and a half. I'm gonna
take the Clippers plus four and a half on the road.
Dallas might win, but might be close. No, but Dallas
might win, but I'll take it close. You haven't bet
against the Clippers in years?
Speaker 3 (33:40):
No a half? Yes and half. I've been picking it
for four years for sure. You're right.
Speaker 4 (33:45):
And last, I'm gonna take the Yankees minus one and
a half runs, Chris. They are on the road in Milwaukee.
That game is gonna be starting pretty soon. So Yankees
minus one and a half runs, Clippers plus four and
a half, and the Sun is minus five and a half.
And remember, I'm not telling you who to bet on.
I'm telling you why I bet on but one team.
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I've been right about Chris and these NBA playoffs, About
those Lakers.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Yeah, did you call the sweep? Remember you said five?
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I said yep, because I thought that I picked them
losing last night.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But I thought they'd get one game. But now I'm
not convinced.
Speaker 7 (34:23):
No.
Speaker 3 (34:23):
Look now, rob right, I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1 (34:25):
I'll be surprised if they win Game four. Look on
the We're just gonna have to wait and see which
Laker teams comes out, because on the one hand, they
might want to muster up all the pride and competitive
spirit they have and say we're not gonna get swept again.
On the other hand, they could be like inside, they
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won't voice it, but they don't have any choice because
right about right, if they could bring everything they got
get beat, I mean, come on, eleven straight times and
and everything's the same.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
It's almost robed.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
And I know they're not doing this, but it almost
comes off like Denver's taunting them by the first right, right,
it's like we we we have no fear of you guys.
I mean, we can turn it on whenever we were.
If I was playing my little nephew.
Speaker 3 (35:16):
Right, you could let that, y'all. You can grab a
little lead. Oh you might beat me, you know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (35:22):
No, no psych and here here we go and take this.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
For Rob g and Laker, it's like groundhog Day because
every game seems to be the same, Like they leading
the first time, you feel good.
Speaker 3 (35:33):
About him and then boom, it's all over. They've led
every game at halftime.
Speaker 1 (35:37):
But Rob, look last night, D'Angelo Russell, we know he
is not a playoff performer. He played shot the ball
well seven threes in game two.
Speaker 3 (35:46):
That's it. Last night, Rob, he.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Plays twenty four minutes oh for seven from the floor,
oh for six from three, zero points in an NBA.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
Games Zero points?
Speaker 1 (36:00):
And Rob what made it even worse a few minutes
left in the game. I mean, look, they were we
all knew they were going to lose, but it was like,
what seven point game or something like that.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
That's an unprofessional quurch. I know what you're going to talk.
Speaker 1 (36:13):
About, sitting he's out of the huddle and it looked
like he was eating. Some people think he was on
the phone. Either way, I don't care what it is.
First of all, why is food even available? Why are
the bones available? To play like? This is ridiculous? But Rob,
even if they were like why Rob, I'm gonna say this,
(36:36):
there's only one reason. If I was running the Lakers,
coach GM whatever, and I leave it up to the coach.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
But if I was a coach of the Lakers.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
I would bench, not only bench Danzel Russell, but I
would not even let him suit up. But here, here's
the reason I wouldn't do that. I mean, that's what
I want to do. But the only reason I wouldn't
is because I don't want to completely destroy his trade value.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Because I'm trying to train me. Because you're right, Because people,
that's the only reason I wouldn't do it. You're right.
Speaker 4 (37:09):
They'll be like, uh oh, yes, They'll be like, he's
not somebody we want. And then you know I've said
this to you a thousand times. He'll play so great.
You'll go like, how's he been on ten teams?
Speaker 3 (37:23):
Right?
Speaker 4 (37:23):
You always ask yourself like he's been around all over
the place. But but that was bad.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
And the other thing to Chris, you can't remember the
thing he did with Nick Young row Low character.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
I'm sorry and you can't. And then to be a
no show. Chris, it's not just about the media. You're
not stiffing us. Guess what you're making Your teammates have
to answer for your performance. If I'm a coach or
a general manager. When he scores thirty five, go home.
No media for you, because that's not fair to his teammates.
Speaker 3 (37:53):
You're talking about when he wouldn't talk to the media.
Speaker 4 (37:55):
Yea last night, Like what are you doing that you
put when you score? Are you're not available? You're not available?
No that I get you, I get you, all right.
It's the couple two hours left, locket
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