July 29, 2025 • 39 mins
Former NFL safety Kerry Rhodes is in for Rob, and he and Kelvin share their thoughts on the shooting tragedy near NFL HQ in New York in which the perpetrator accused the league had been concealing the risk of CTE for profit, and tell us why they all hated Happy Gilmore 2. Plus, former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam swings by to discuss why he refuses to let his sons play tackle football, why we're seeing so many NFL players end their contract holdouts before we get too deep into training camps, and much more!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:23):
Let's get this, puny, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (00:31):
That's right, it is The Odd Couple on a trash
talking Tuesday job Washington, Carrie Rhodes and for Rob. Rob
will be back tomorrow. We miss buddy, but we've been
having a good time as well. He is on his
I don't know, Baseball, Family Middle Mixure Everything trip. He's
been all over the place, you know how he does.
Man Big show lined up in about twenty eight minutes
(00:53):
or so, we're gonna have E from Salaam join us.
Always great to have Big E on talk some football
talks about the stuff with him as well. He's always
insightful and all those things. And then coming up also
in our we got a bunch of gotta get you
in the NFL. We got some Chador Sanders conversation we
need to get to also some justin Herbert next hour,
looking forward to that as well.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Carrie, Man, everything good with you. Everything's well man. I was,
you know, doing some instant surfing and saw you did
your hosting thing at the at the end thees man.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Man, how was that? Tell us about that? It was good? Thanks,
thank you for asking. It was It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The response has been well, people have been complimentary. And
you know how this goes from performing whatever, whether it
be seeing, whether re acting, doing we do. As it
goes on, you get warmer and warmer. All right, let
me now you kind of got the cryd. Let me
have a little bit more fun. Let me poke fun
at this person, to do this a little bit here.
So they really started opening up for me throughout the
as the night went on. But it was great man.
(01:52):
Wife was beautiful, looked good. We looked good and had
a good time. Got to see some you know, my
peers and colleagues. So a great time. Thank you for asking.
I got a second that you guys did look good.
You guys look like a like like a like a
famous couple on the red carpet.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was like, look at these two, rob g he said,
we looked like one of them. Couples he hangs with.
I didn't say that. Oh wait, we're not favoite like
not your not yet.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Gotta get you a few more and Emmy hosting gigs
before you can hang with me. All I'm saying is
you guys look good. No, I appreciate it. It was
a good it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So everything being well with you. I think we remember
about midweek last week we did a show. Yeah, yeah,
think change in the Heaven. No.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Man's been just grinding in the studio, did some stuff, yes,
two days ago in the studio, which I'm excited about
finally getting this stuff released. I have a couple of
singles that are on the way, and man, just going
in there, just just letting them anything dj Ali Allix
can spend today probably probably we got three hours. Probably
we'll throw some a little tease on there somewhere.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, we got three hours. Yeah, all right, carry let's
welcome in the odd couple crew. As you know, we
couldn't do the show without them. We got Rob Gen,
the producer extraordinaire who I believe is hiding his steroids
in the refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And those steroids okay, yeah, he did get it. Yeah,
he got it. I went to go, you got it.
I'm trying to look like you. Here we go. It's
gonna take a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm not gonna lie somebody who's basically there, closed there, Alex, Alex.
That's why Alex engineer extraordinaire in the building. Sons are
out in buns Rod yesterday. He's here and we got
of course Steve the Seger. He is gonna get you
updated and everything you need to know on that, and Alex,
I gotta hit him with it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And always, well, Elijah, I always remember who is here too.
By the way, this film is in front of a
live sweet sweete. There you go. Did I see Elijah?
Where is he?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He's usually okay, that means he'll be in the studio. Yeah, exactly,
I know I saw him. I thought as soon as
I saw him, Alex kicked him out, like Alex stop
all right.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
If you know he ditch Richard Gviino to talk to
me for thirty minutes in the other studio.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Thirty minutes, that means he was trying his best not
to put hands on you. That's what he was doing
thirty minutes for that, all right. So there's man Carrie,
there's a lot to get to it, and we got
to talk about something that you know, serious conversation is
something that happened in the NFL, well, the NFL offices,
(04:16):
and that would be yesterday. We had the incident that
occurred in the building which the houses of some financial
buildings as well as the NFL, and so I want
to give you, I want to be specific about the
updates here what we know and then kind of dive
into just our thoughts about some things. So you had
again a shooting that occurred there a gunman who went
(04:39):
in the building and he unfortunately killed four people, ultimately
killed himself as well. We know a little bit more
about him as well. Now he is from His name
is Shane Devone Tomorrow. He is twenty seven. He's from
He's originally from here, southern California, played high school football here,
and then he went into this building and then unfortunately
(05:03):
unleashed on folks and as I mentioned forward dead he
ultimately would kill himself. Now here's where it kind of
first of all thoughts, concerns, prayers for everybody involved. What
has come out since then in the investigation is that
it is believed that he was trying to get into
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They were on a higher floor. He was trying to
get up there. And then you start to read about it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He had a suicide note in his pocket, and in
that note he said that he was dealing with CTE.
He went on to say that he was disappointed in
the NFL because they were lying, they were keeping information.
He had a documented mental health history and this is
(05:46):
what he said here, he said CTE, and it caused
me to drink a gallon of Anni freeze. Once he
mentioned he went on to talk about his own issues.
And so he believes the NFL is at fault for
not giving off people all the information and telling the
truth about CTE. And so it is believed that he
was trying to get to that building. Obviously he did
(06:06):
not get there. So there's a lot to get you
here for me, and I want to start with this again.
I'm definitely just a sad story. And you hate to
hear about this because a couple of things for me.
Carry one, I don't know him, didn't know him, and
if he may have been dealing with some issues, I
(06:30):
don't know if this to be true. We know that
he has a document of mental health history. He says
it comes from football and CTE and that very well
could be true. I don't know, but either way, that's
not how you handle things.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Taking the lives of others who had nothing to do
with it is not how you handle things. Killing people
is absolutely not how you handle things.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But there is for me.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I want to switch from the incident into the conversation
of the NFL and CTE, And you know what, I
look at it as Carrie, The NFL is really like
America's cigarette. The NFL is like when you go bungee
jumping or you go skydiving. They tell you everything. Hey,
(07:13):
they tell you, look, this can do this, this can happen.
Here are the dangers. Use at your own, you know, discretion.
And the NFL for years was hiding things. Yes, right,
the NFL wasn't telling us about things. They weren't telling
us about t T. They were trying to cover it up.
But then around two thousand and five information starts to
(07:34):
come out. Right around we start to hear more and
more of what it's doing to people. We started to
hear more folks stories, and we started to hear about
the tragedies that happened we start to hear about the
junior Seiles killing themselves. We start to hear about Andrea
I Waters that hurts himself, it injures himself. And we
start to get this information about CT and it's real
to the tune of one of the biggest actors, biggest
(07:56):
blockbuster actors, Will Smith does a movie called Concussion. That
see it, And you know, we can watch a movie
about it, and we can hear the stories and see
the truth, and yet we still tune in. Right, Damar
Hamlin died on the field, We still watch, And I
think I'm at a place where for me, the NFL
has no more hiding to do. They don't have to
(08:19):
hide anymore. Tell us everything here is exactly what can happen.
We're not hiding, we're not sugar coating. We're telling you
everything we've ever found. We're telling you every inherent danger.
You know, why, Carrie, why we are consumed. We don't
care if you see somebody die in the field. We're
gonna watch, right. We don't care about CDE guests who's
signing up to play, still said, parents sending them in
(08:41):
their players. Now we do know, younger folks, the numbers
have dropped a bit. But what you're seeing is they're
going into flag football preparing to then do high school
football more. But football participation is still high. Viewership is
crazy high. Guys are still making millions of dollars. So
to me, the NFL else to hide about CTE, about
(09:01):
any other thing, because they're in a position where they
can say, hey, we told you all everything. We've given you,
all the data, we're giving you, all the facts, we're
giving you. Everything you do football is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Here you go.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, And the only reason you they will not do that,
or they have not done what you just said, come
come completely clean, is there's still ongoing court cases and
things that are going against the NFL as far as
the CTE from the former players, and that's the part
where you cannot do it that way. And so the
(09:31):
shadow that's cast by all of that is it's still looming,
and that's the part that you cannot do that. And
so I understand why that's not the case. Now as
far as the you know, the shooting incident and the
shooter trying to go in and solve this problem by himself,
that's just not.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
The way to do it.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Absolutely, it's only hurting yourself, it's hurting your family, it's
hurting other people's families that, like you said, had nothing
to do with this, right, So that's a big no no.
But the crazy part about what you just said is
people are still going to consume this product. I don't
think there's anything that can be done that will cause
that to be the opposite.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I just had a call on the way over here
with a friend of mine asking me, should I put
my ten year old son in football?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And you know what I said? Would? I said? Let
him play flag football? Again? Like that's me.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm somebody that actually went through the fire. I played it,
had plenty of concussions, had a concussion in my first
preseason game, knocked out cold, and because I knew that
I had to make the team, I get back up
and still play, Like that's my decision.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Even though you're probably.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Basing a lot of those things, and those decisions based
off doctors and the team and the NFL and all
those things and laying out the stuff for you for
your safety, you're also for your livelihood to doing something
that you've want to do your whole life, and you
know what the benefits of it can be for you
and your family. So there's this thing where it's just
very hard to kind of be mad at the NFL
(10:57):
with this and for somebody to try to take some
take take matters into his own hands and try to
go course correct this thing.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's just not going to happen that way. It's not again,
and it's sad. Again.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
We don't know if that's what his issue was and
if he you know, but I do know look at
this so we know. Just to name some of these
junior seaw Aaron Hernandez, Andre Waters, Dave Derrison, they all
had confirmed CTE. And when you start to look further
into these numbers, it's absolutely it's astonishing what they found.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So look at this.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Ninety two percent of the of the folks that they
actually have studied. I take that back, it's hundred well
I have played in the NFL that they fl that
had it, fifth that had fifteen plus years. Ninety nine
percent of the brains that they have studied had CTE.
So the Boston University, who's been at the epicenter of this,
they've been leading this again, they had three hundred and
(11:49):
forty five brains at the three hundred and seventy three
hundred and seventy six and of three hundred and forty
five of them were former NFL players. Study ninety two
percent of them had CTE. And of those numbers, that's
where we get the ninety nine percent that played fifteen
or more had it. So you look at the names
we led, we talk about it, and to me, that's
why I said, it reminds me of cigarettes. Hey, I'm
telling you now, it can cause cancer. You can die,
(12:12):
or you can be sick or secondhand smoke. In this case,
it will be hurt to your family, pain that they
have to go through if you end up being having
these brain issues. People are still signing up. We're watching
at crazy numbers, we're attending at crazy numbers. Business is booming,
and that's just where we are. And the NFL's pretty
much survived anything. We know that they were lying about
ct We get the information about CTE, we get a
(12:34):
movie about CTE, and we still consume and we watch
it and you see, you guy can kneel and people
felt like, hey, he shouldn't be penalized because hes kneeled.
And Colin Kaepernick people are still watching domestic violence issues.
People are still watching. So if you're the NFL, you
have just putt your their nonposition where they're king, and
we've just consumed. We're in trench. It's entrenched in us
(12:55):
and we love it and it's not going anywhere. And
to me, that's why in this guy's story, don't know
if it's true. Horrific events, terrible events, terrible decision making.
No one deserved this, you know. But on the CTE
side of the conversation, to me, I think here we are,
say twenty years later from really becoming a conversation. I
(13:18):
don't think that we care. Yeah, I don't think that
we care. And I think that the NFL kind of
has gone yeah, and it's a condo. And you know why,
because it's a conscious decision by everybody. So you're putting
the power in everybody else outside of the entity, outside
of the shield.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, we've we've we've confirmed it.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Whatever however much or small or how big that that
confirming was, it's been confirmed.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So now it's up to you as a consumer, as
a player, it's up to you, like you know, the warnings,
Like you said, you talked about it perfectly well with
the cigarette analogy. I love that because the olden days
of TV, the olden days of film, the old days,
the images that we saw was you know, with a cool,
like rustic looking actor with some Wrangler jeans and puffing
(14:07):
a cigarette and that was cool. Yeah, And so we
talked about the consumer consumerism when you look at the
product of the NFL, right for the most part, when
you look at that, the things that they do on
the field, like we'll sit back and say, man, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And so the correlation one hundred percent hads up The
one thing I'll say before we break here to your
earlier point, I was going to get to this as well.
We're talking about tet. My point was the NFL needs
to just go ahead and say, hey, I told you
lay it all out. And the reason why one of
the reasons at least why they haven't is because they
haven't paid out everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's my point.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, what you were saying earlier. Yeah, they we found
out they were doing race based brain testing. We're finding out,
you know, that only certain people are being paid others aren't.
They're holding up the money to people who were thought
they were getting this money, Families who thought they were
getting money. Whether you posthumously or folks who were dealing
with it in real time, because just to make sure
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we for the folks are clear, you can't determine TT
unless someone is dead, just for those who maybe didn't
know that. But so there's a bunch that we find
out that so many players who have filed for the claims.
Looking at this, you got players who filed for TTE
issues with brain dementia, and forty one at filed dementia
cases based on their diagnosis from the doctors, and only
(15:21):
about fifteen percent were approved. So there's a lot going
on with how they're getting people their money, who's getting
the money, And that's the issue to what you were
saying earlier, where they're still trying to keep quiet because
then they'll have to retroactively go back and take because
think about that guy retired of making it up seven
nineteen seventy seven. Yeah, who is like something ain't been
right and his family's like, man, something just changed five
(15:44):
ten years after retire, Well now they kind of know.
Now you can put a name that's what it was,
or that's what he's dealing with in the NFL doesn't
want to dies that, but I believe moving forward the NFL.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You ain't even got a hide none. We are proven,
We're all in. We are proven it is.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There's a drug that America needs, America wants, no matter
what the situation is. We arguing about politics, we're working
about neeling, were working about CTE, We're working about domestic minds.
We're arguing about use of military and stuff. Again, we
don't matter. People want their NFL. Give me my parlays
and to me the NFL at this point, they ain't
got nothing else to hide because we have proven we
(16:22):
can't do without it as a society. There you go,
all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, if
you want to jump in on this, If you just
are a person who how do you feel knowing again,
we have had these conversations about CTE. We've heard about
the tragedies and the folks who have taken their lives
are the folks who are dealing with brain issues now
where we clearly know it's from football als A lot
of folks dealing with als from playing all of that football.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Do you feel guilty at all? Do you not care
at all? Maybe?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Are you keeping your kids out of football all together?
Me and Rob g were talking, you know e from
Salam who will talk to a little bit about this.
He chooses to keep his sons out of football if
they're playing flagging out. You know, we'll see how long
it goes. I know Marcella is wiley. I used to
do the show with keeping them out of you know,
kind of the traditional pee wee football as well. It's
kind of changing people's lives. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
(17:09):
on Fox. If you want to get in on this,
we'll take some calls on that. It is The Odd Couple.
Carry is in for Rob on a trash Talking Tuesday
that's coming up in a couple hours as well, or
in an hour, I should say, stick and stay America.
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Speaker 1 (18:37):
All right, I want to get straight to this.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
It is the Odd Couple kelvin Washington, my man Carrie
Rose and for Rob on this trash talking Tuesday, about
an hour and twenty minutes away from that, looking forward
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So Carrie, I want to ask you the same question
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Speaker 1 (19:17):
Know everything, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I've not met a single player yet, Yeah, who has
said no that he would not His guys who've mangled up,
some of them not all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Some of them walk with a limp, some of them
every day wake up, got to take pain pills.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They have never I've never met a former NFL player
who's went through it all and said he wouldn't do
it again. Yeah, are you gonna be the first one ever?
In my ten years of asking this question, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
What, the fact that we're on radio and I could
be the first I would say I would do that
just for radio, but absolutely not like I would do
it again.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it's easy when you think.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Of football players. They're warriors, right like, they're not thinking
about the future and I'm thinking about longevity. They're thinking
about doing the thing right now that they're really great
at in that moment. And those guys have always been
great at that and always been blessed to do it
and have this god given ability as well, where a
lot of people cannot do what we do what they've done.
(20:20):
So to say I wouldn't do it again with the
knowledge that I have it just would be blasphemous, because
I really I would do it again, and just looking
at the benefits that it's had for my family and
close friends and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I had to be that breadwinner. I was chosen for this,
and most of those guys were chosen for that. And
that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Love, man, If you're telling me, and I'm serious, I've
heard them say, if I might lose ten years off
my life team, but my family is set forever. Maybe
a couple of generations two three. You know, a lot
of them said the same thing. All right, I want
to take a call again for those who just tune in.
We're talking about the tragedy that happened in New York
yesterday with the shooter that opened up in the building
and Parker Avenue in the same building in which the
(20:59):
NFL headquarters there, and they were trying They will now
say allegedly he was trying to get to the NFL building.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He had a suicide note.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
There's three pages and he's claiming at CTE we're talking
about Now that you know about it, do you care?
Do you feel bad? Do you maybe wish the NFL
did more? Or you now at the place where you
say it is what it is? Eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Will take a couple quick ones before
we go to Steve the saga. Let's go to Reese
in Lexington. Reese and Lexington, you're on with the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
What's up, guys, how are y'all doing tonight?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What's up? Reasoning?
Speaker 12 (21:26):
Well, we're doing good, you know, just getting to the
you know, listen to the conversation.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I think sometimes you know, we put football.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
I'm not saying on a pedestal, but you know, to
be you know that they play and.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
They know the risk.
Speaker 11 (21:40):
But you know, I mean, it's a society thing.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
He said that.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
You know, the publics, you know, bought in. You know,
society loves violence.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
You know, we don't have this.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
Conversation about boxing or MMA or anything like that. I mean,
people you know nowadays know you get blows.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
To the head, you know, especially you know, I mean
as fast and you know the NFL or.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
You know d one com football is. We know the consequences,
and you know nobody's going to back up off of
it and say, hey, I'm you know, I'm not gonna
watch this because it's too violent. Because you know, us
as a nation we love violentce I mean, you know,
I mean, and so I think sometimes you know, the
conversation I understand is NFL and then the biggest thing out.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
There, but you know, it's everything with violence.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I don't agree Reese were only one thing I would add, Reese.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think subconsciously we saw pads, we saw helmets, so
we thought it wasn't that bad. You see Tom Brady's
or the Joe Montanas who seem to be fine and
look fine. And I think subconsciously, for decades you just
kind of thought football to you. You might walk with
a limp, your shoulder might hurt at night sometimes or
when the weather drops gets bad, the pressure your knees hurt,
but nothing brain. I don't think we just associated with
(22:46):
that for years. Reeese will be. My only point is
that now I think we do more so than we did.
One more quick one Drew real quick. You're on with
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Hey, guys, yeah, I think a lot, like you said,
a lot of people would do were good. And I mean,
and I'm sure even Kerry, I'm sure when you were
playing you knew, you know, concussions are going to impact
you long term. I mean you look at like the
boxers from back then. Oh yeah, it might not have
been like as well research exactly what the full CT was,
(23:20):
but we knew the impact. What I was saying is
I don't the reason why. Yeah, you feel somewhat bad,
but I don't feel totally bad. It's this is not
a situation where like we put you know, we put
soldiers in Afghanistan next to burn pits, and they didn't
know that that's exposure. I'm gonna get cancer right now.
We screw screw them out. You know, the VA is
pretty terrible. Yeah, and you have people fighting for insurance
(23:45):
health insurance and those situations. That's totally different, no doubt,
do you feel bad, But it's different when you're getting
concussion for thirty million dollars. Right, I'll take that there.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You appreciate you as always.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Thank The crazy part about what you just said at
the at the end, at the end there is it's
just as hard for football players to get insured as
well after football. So that same part, that's what he
to say, like about with veterans said, there's a small
window of when you can even claim LD, which is
line of duty, and once that time is over, and
it's very specific after your plan years I think it's
(24:18):
five years, it's three three. Like as far as putting
in the complaint, okay, oh gotcha. You know you're insure
for the first three after it is it's five. Yeah,
that you if you don't put it in by then
you can't even put in the claim anymore. So it's
a lot of things that football players did not know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (24:47):
Steve, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Just to add couple, Calvin Washington, my man Carry Rose
in for Ron Parker on a trash Talking Tuesday. I'll
be coming up in a little bit, looking forward to
that and yeah, i'd be you know that it's gonna
be some crazy stuff going on there now.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Joining us as always.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
He from salam former NFL offensive line in Fox Sports
Radio Weekends. E from salam Is on X and socials. Hey, man,
I want to get straight to it, just your thoughts.
Tragedy that occurred in New York. We had the shooter
who was trying to get to the NFL building, killed
four people, killed themselves. A horrible situation and again our
thoughts and definitely concerns and prayers and just trying to
(25:22):
i mean, the gun issues in America.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's the story for another day. But a horrible situation.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
But the conversation we tried to segue it to the
idea about CTE, which is what that the killer shooter
said that he said it claiming he had we don't
know for sure. Obviously, just your thought on how we
kind of went from the last twenty years where it
was a big concern and people were mad at the
NFL and there was a lot of issues and fans
and players wanted to know about it. Now we got
(25:47):
a lot of research, We got a lot of data.
We found out so much about it and how pervasive
it is with those who their brains that they've studied.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Where do you think we are do we just not care?
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Is?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Are we over it?
Speaker 4 (25:58):
And also just what you've learned about it yourself playing
and ask carry I've not met a former football player
yet who said he wouldn't do it all over again
knowing everything.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Well, you know, because those players, myself, Carrie and everybody
else changed their whole family, social economics, you know, trajectory
for life. So if there is something that you do
to benefit your family for generations to come, then yeah,
I mean football players inherently aren't selfish because it's a
(26:28):
team sport. Think of your family as a team and
what would you do to help your family or your
team win and get ahead. So I would absolutely play
And you know this, I've told you there's a million
times and I played football, So my kids wouldn't have to. Ye,
they do anything they want to, and that's just the
way it is. And in terms of the tragedy that
struck New York yesterday about the young man who played
(26:52):
high school football and blamed the NFL for his CTE,
and he never played in the NFL, so I didn't
quite understand the correlation of why he was so angry
at the NFL and he hadn't even I don't believe
even played in college. I don't think what I've seen
so far right, so the implication of the NFL causing
(27:17):
his CTE and he was targeting them, I didn't understand
what the connection was. I also understand he had been
suffering from mental health issues for quite some time. So
it's easy for people to point the finger at the
sport and this and that. But I don't see the
(27:39):
connection between the tragedy that happened at the NFL offices
yesterday and the actual you know, perpetrator like those don't connect. Now,
With that said, moving on to the question you really
asked in terms of you know, it does matter the
(28:02):
thing that I didn't have and Carrie didn't have when
we were playing in the NFL where we didn't have
all the information, right, I didn't know concussions or multiple
concussions can lead to long term brain issues that Boone
was talking about. That that wasn't I wasn't a neuroscientist
(28:22):
when when I was in college, my understudy or whatever,
so I didn't have that information. I do know. I
don't think I've ever missed a game or a play
from a concussion, so that there was no independent neurologists
with a red hat watching every play. I think the
(28:43):
NFL is doing what they can to make the game safer.
They's taken some of the hilacious hits that were standard hits.
The equipment is better. They don't practice full pads as much.
They're in training camp. They have ramp up days opposed
to jumping right to jump you right into two A
(29:03):
day's full pads for you know, four or five weeks.
So the NFL is doing everything they can to minimize
the effects of the head trauma and so on and
so forth, and I commend them for it. It's a
contact board. It's going to be violent. Guys are going
to get concussions, but they're not registering as much as
(29:26):
they were prior to the New Standards.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Hey, I love everything you said there.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I just weren't talk about ramping up, and I want
to kind of switch the conversation a little bit from that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, it's heavy.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
It's one of those things where obviously, you know, people
have their concerns and their thoughts about it, but like
you said, the game is physical and it is what
it is. But talking about ramping up, you know, everybody's
getting the training camp. You're seeing some of the guys
that were possible holdouts and holding out for certain times
showing up. You saw Terry McLaurin finally show up at
the Commander's camp. And now we just getting news that
(29:59):
Trade Hindrick has showed up to Cincinnati. What do you
think about that? That team and they got to get
him signed. They don't have anybody else on that side.
So what do you think is going on with all
this Cincinnati talk right now?
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Well, I think Cincinnati's got an issue. I think they
thought they addressed their issues and spending a boatload of
money on the offensive side of the ball, but the
flat out and neglect on the defensive side is one
of the reasons they didn't make the playoffs. Last year,
Joe Burrow put up historic numbers. Both of US receivers
had tremendous years and they didn't make the playoffs. So,
(30:33):
you know, not being able to stop somebody. The NFL
has never been a league where you can outscore everybody.
You're going to have to play defense at some point
if you want to be successful and if you want
to go deep into the playoffs and make a run
at the playoffs. And the fact that they alienated their
first round pass rusher who was their edge guy and
(30:56):
they're all pro edge guy, it lets you know the
mentality of the organization. They're putting a lot on Joe
Burrow's shoulders, and that's not fair to him. He even
spoke out.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Uh and and and on behalf of of of his teammate,
like they need to.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Get it done and so on. But the Bengals have
been historically a chief franchise. They don't like to spend money,
and so this doesn't it's not out of place for me.
It doesn't seem odd that they are taking so long
to do this or not doing it at all. I mean,
I think they feel like, hey, we spent the money already,
(31:36):
so we'll see how this year goes, and and and
move on from there. When everybody else is really hammering
down and getting better. They're in a division where they
can't afford not to play defense today. That's not gonna happen.
They're gonna get wiped out off off the planet without
a doubt.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
But I love your analogy you gave. The last time
you were here.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You and I were talking about the Bengals, basically saying, look,
Joe Burrow's actingly like the kid who wants the parents
to say, all right, we'll take you to Disney World
or Universal.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And if kid goes, let me bring him and him
and her and him and her.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Hey hey, hey, hey, you can't give everybody. This ain't
your money. And you said, that's how Joe Burrow's acting.
How did Universal go? I know your son's birthday won.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It this week?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Yeah it was. He had a ball They had a
ball man, They had a good You know, they love
they love it. They My oldest son is fourteen now.
He rashid. He's all about you know, Disney Parks and
Universal and theme rides and all that. He's gonna be
an imagineer when he grows up. And so he had.
(32:35):
He had a phenomenal time. Costs a lot of money.
But you know they don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They don't care at all.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
You care, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's why Daddy got to always get to work. Hey,
he we appreciate you so well.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Though both of my kids are in the car, and
my eleven year old it's like, what about me. Well,
Elijah is a basketball and we're on our way to
basketball practice right down. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Give him a shout out to all right, fellas were here.
We see what y'all doing. Thank you, Thank you for
us to borrow daddy for a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
We appreciate you, appreciate no doubt.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
All right on the way, Play of the day, Carrie.
And also a sports movie part two that I don't
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Speaker 1 (33:13):
We'll tell you what it is. It's the couple carry
in for Rob. Fox Sports Radio. I hit it so
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Speaker 4 (33:32):
Uh Hey, this is all I saw carry You would
get on I was just about to say, I don't
listen to much rap more like this type of vibe.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But this is a vibe. This is you, This is
the vibe.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
It is the odd couple Kevin Washington, Carry Roads and
on the trash talking Tuesday, about an hour away from
that coming up next hour, looking forward to that, and
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Speaker 1 (33:57):
The pitch swung on.
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Speaker 4 (34:17):
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(34:38):
what's up? You watched it. I turned it on and said,
what am I doing? Let me get my life together?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And then a bunch of other people have sit I mean,
people have really tried to, like like Jamael Hill, you know,
you know she gonna drop a dissertation on you, and
she dropped one. And everybody's trying to justify, like all right,
or make sense? Are like or do the opposite, like
what did I just watch? Yeah, and we're talking about
Happy Gilmore too, rob g you watch it?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I did watch it, so I know you didn't watch something.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Watch it?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
You did?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
You are here because I'm getting paid to.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, what did you think?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Because usually you could, oh, come on, ease up. It
was just a fun movie. What it wasn't trying to
be Casa Blanca, but it's just a fun.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No one liked this one.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
And that's what shocked me was because you I expected
to be a contingency of people were like, come on, man,
it was just nostalgic and fun.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, nobody liked it. Did any of you like it?
Speaker 14 (35:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
No, rober you had the cricket sound well, yeah, I'm
sure can find it. You know why though? Why?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Where was where was the miss there's no need.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Well, it made him an alcoholic, his wife died, and
then now he's like playing golf again.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, big spoiler. No, I just dropped the first five minute. True,
but it did just drop like twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'll watch it. I thought we got like a two
week rule.
Speaker 14 (35:58):
He already had almost forty seven million people have watched it,
forty million accounts.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Seven million. I've watched that movie already. But that's because.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
You put you back into you were eight years old,
fourteen year old, eighteen year old self, and everybody thought, oh,
happy giving, just like when they dropped Coming to America.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Also terrible.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And y'all know our Senio Hall is a big fan
of the show. Shout out to our Sineo.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Sineo.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
But uh, it was it was bad mutual radio right now,
That wasn't it. That was bad And we had to
do it because you had to do it right. You
had to honor the history of it.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And you don't have to know. I meant us the viewer, like,
gott I just gotta do it. I gotta do it.
Let me just do it. I'm nervous to the whole
time about the press play.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Calvin Happy Gilmore was so bad? Was Coming to America?
The best movie ever Coming to America? Was equally bad.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, I'm saying, was it better? It was equally bad.
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
I mean, you know, we're splitting hairs here. But man,
when you watched that movie, man, it was like it
was just cameos. They did play on the nostalg japart
obviously way too much. But the movie made no It
felt like an Instagram real you just see what that's
collection of scenes?
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah, well, you know what, and famous people.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Who cares? This isn't like you know in the eighty
sitcom where somebody walks in there like nobody cares. It's
Kelsey Cool, catch a ball, bad Bunny, drop a beat.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I don't care. That's that.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The one thing I heard was that bad Buddy kind
of was that people liked to he was funny by accident.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's just him. It's not like he was doing really
good actor. Let's let's be clear about that.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
And what's crazy is, so here's what you get with
Netflix and Hulu's and Amazon Prime movies. Right now, they're
spending a lot on the one actor. Nothing else. How
many Netflix movies have you seen where there are two
locations whatever. They're in the role C G I and
they're in whatever the room is. If it's a movie
about sports radio, then it's here and then it's my house.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
We ain't traveling, we ain't on the road. We didn't
go see my people in Michigan, none of that. We
are not on location. You were in that one stude
because and they're like, hey, we're gonna pay Kevin Hart,
Adam Sandler, Eddie Murphy, and there's like three or four
other actors. They gave, Hey, here's one hundred million for
you five six movie deal. Adam Sandler's like eight million,
two hundred million whatever he's got to give him eight movies.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I liked Uncut Gems. I liked Hustle. I can't front Hustle.
Surprised me. I was like, Oh, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
That was we're Netflix movies. I thought they were.
Speaker 14 (38:40):
No, they were distributed on Netflix, but they're like, you
think it was eight twenty four and that happened they
get distributed on Well, I'm gonna need him to call
them up instead of a twenty four. I needed to
be h e h e y hey twenty four three
because cut Jim. He was just an actor on that.
He didn't that wasn't him, It wasn't Oh so did
(39:00):
that count on the eight?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Oh dang we no, I will have to miss it. Yeah,
but we can't waste that one now now they got
carried away. I was looking at the uh top New
York Times Top one hundred movies of all time list.
First of all, on Coat Jem shouldn't be on the list.
I love it, but it should be on one hundred movies.
It was like fifty third or something sixty like whoa, whoa,
whoa mm I am. I almost had to cut. Somebody
(39:24):
ain't buying that was extreme? Did not buy that?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
All right, we gonna talk justin Herbert. It's time to
have a conversation. Yes,
Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcast.
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Speaker 4 (00:31):
That's right, it is The Odd Couple on a trash
talking Tuesday job Washington, Carrie Rhodes and for Rob. Rob
will be back tomorrow. We miss buddy, but we've been
having a good time as well. He is on his
I don't know, Baseball, Family Middle Mixure Everything trip. He's
been all over the place, you know how he does.
Man Big show lined up in about twenty eight minutes
(00:53):
or so, we're gonna have E from Salaam join us.
Always great to have Big E on talk some football
talks about the stuff with him as well. He's always
insightful and all those things. And then coming up also
in our we got a bunch of gotta get you
in the NFL. We got some Chador Sanders conversation we
need to get to also some justin Herbert next hour,
looking forward to that as well.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Carrie, Man, everything good with you. Everything's well man. I was,
you know, doing some instant surfing and saw you did
your hosting thing at the at the end thees man.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Man, how was that? Tell us about that? It was good? Thanks,
thank you for asking. It was It was a good time.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
The response has been well, people have been complimentary. And
you know how this goes from performing whatever, whether it
be seeing, whether re acting, doing we do. As it
goes on, you get warmer and warmer. All right, let
me now you kind of got the cryd. Let me
have a little bit more fun. Let me poke fun
at this person, to do this a little bit here.
So they really started opening up for me throughout the
as the night went on. But it was great man.
(01:52):
Wife was beautiful, looked good. We looked good and had
a good time. Got to see some you know, my
peers and colleagues. So a great time. Thank you for asking.
I got a second that you guys did look good.
You guys look like a like like a like a
famous couple on the red carpet.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
I was like, look at these two, rob g he said,
we looked like one of them. Couples he hangs with.
I didn't say that. Oh wait, we're not favoite like
not your not yet.
Speaker 4 (02:14):
Gotta get you a few more and Emmy hosting gigs
before you can hang with me. All I'm saying is
you guys look good. No, I appreciate it. It was
a good it's a good time.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Man.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
So everything being well with you. I think we remember
about midweek last week we did a show. Yeah, yeah,
think change in the Heaven. No.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Man's been just grinding in the studio, did some stuff, yes,
two days ago in the studio, which I'm excited about
finally getting this stuff released. I have a couple of
singles that are on the way, and man, just going
in there, just just letting them anything dj Ali Allix
can spend today probably probably we got three hours. Probably
we'll throw some a little tease on there somewhere.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Yeah, we got three hours. Yeah, all right, carry let's
welcome in the odd couple crew. As you know, we
couldn't do the show without them. We got Rob Gen,
the producer extraordinaire who I believe is hiding his steroids
in the refrigerator.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
And those steroids okay, yeah, he did get it. Yeah,
he got it. I went to go, you got it.
I'm trying to look like you. Here we go. It's
gonna take a lot.
Speaker 4 (03:10):
I'm not gonna lie somebody who's basically there, closed there, Alex, Alex.
That's why Alex engineer extraordinaire in the building. Sons are
out in buns Rod yesterday. He's here and we got
of course Steve the Seger. He is gonna get you
updated and everything you need to know on that, and Alex,
I gotta hit him with it.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
And always, well, Elijah, I always remember who is here too.
By the way, this film is in front of a
live sweet sweete. There you go. Did I see Elijah?
Where is he?
Speaker 4 (03:43):
He's usually okay, that means he'll be in the studio. Yeah, exactly,
I know I saw him. I thought as soon as
I saw him, Alex kicked him out, like Alex stop
all right.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
If you know he ditch Richard Gviino to talk to
me for thirty minutes in the other studio.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
Thirty minutes, that means he was trying his best not
to put hands on you. That's what he was doing
thirty minutes for that, all right. So there's man Carrie,
there's a lot to get to it, and we got
to talk about something that you know, serious conversation is
something that happened in the NFL, well, the NFL offices,
(04:16):
and that would be yesterday. We had the incident that
occurred in the building which the houses of some financial
buildings as well as the NFL, and so I want
to give you, I want to be specific about the
updates here what we know and then kind of dive
into just our thoughts about some things. So you had
again a shooting that occurred there a gunman who went
(04:39):
in the building and he unfortunately killed four people, ultimately
killed himself as well. We know a little bit more
about him as well. Now he is from His name
is Shane Devone Tomorrow. He is twenty seven. He's from
He's originally from here, southern California, played high school football here,
and then he went into this building and then unfortunately
(05:03):
unleashed on folks and as I mentioned forward dead he
ultimately would kill himself. Now here's where it kind of
first of all thoughts, concerns, prayers for everybody involved. What
has come out since then in the investigation is that
it is believed that he was trying to get into
the NFL.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
They were on a higher floor. He was trying to
get up there. And then you start to read about it.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
He had a suicide note in his pocket, and in
that note he said that he was dealing with CTE.
He went on to say that he was disappointed in
the NFL because they were lying, they were keeping information.
He had a documented mental health history and this is
(05:46):
what he said here, he said CTE, and it caused
me to drink a gallon of Anni freeze. Once he
mentioned he went on to talk about his own issues.
And so he believes the NFL is at fault for
not giving off people all the information and telling the
truth about CTE. And so it is believed that he
was trying to get to that building. Obviously he did
(06:06):
not get there. So there's a lot to get you
here for me, and I want to start with this again.
I'm definitely just a sad story. And you hate to
hear about this because a couple of things for me.
Carry one, I don't know him, didn't know him, and
if he may have been dealing with some issues, I
(06:30):
don't know if this to be true. We know that
he has a document of mental health history. He says
it comes from football and CTE and that very well
could be true. I don't know, but either way, that's
not how you handle things.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Taking the lives of others who had nothing to do
with it is not how you handle things. Killing people
is absolutely not how you handle things.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
But there is for me.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
I want to switch from the incident into the conversation
of the NFL and CTE, And you know what, I
look at it as Carrie, The NFL is really like
America's cigarette. The NFL is like when you go bungee
jumping or you go skydiving. They tell you everything. Hey,
(07:13):
they tell you, look, this can do this, this can happen.
Here are the dangers. Use at your own, you know, discretion.
And the NFL for years was hiding things. Yes, right,
the NFL wasn't telling us about things. They weren't telling
us about t T. They were trying to cover it up.
But then around two thousand and five information starts to
(07:34):
come out. Right around we start to hear more and
more of what it's doing to people. We started to
hear more folks stories, and we started to hear about
the tragedies that happened we start to hear about the
junior Seiles killing themselves. We start to hear about Andrea
I Waters that hurts himself, it injures himself. And we
start to get this information about CT and it's real
to the tune of one of the biggest actors, biggest
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blockbuster actors, Will Smith does a movie called Concussion. That
see it, And you know, we can watch a movie
about it, and we can hear the stories and see
the truth, and yet we still tune in. Right, Damar
Hamlin died on the field, We still watch, And I
think I'm at a place where for me, the NFL
has no more hiding to do. They don't have to
(08:19):
hide anymore. Tell us everything here is exactly what can happen.
We're not hiding, we're not sugar coating. We're telling you
everything we've ever found. We're telling you every inherent danger.
You know, why, Carrie, why we are consumed. We don't
care if you see somebody die in the field. We're
gonna watch, right. We don't care about CDE guests who's
signing up to play, still said, parents sending them in
(08:41):
their players. Now we do know, younger folks, the numbers
have dropped a bit. But what you're seeing is they're
going into flag football preparing to then do high school
football more. But football participation is still high. Viewership is
crazy high. Guys are still making millions of dollars. So
to me, the NFL else to hide about CTE, about
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any other thing, because they're in a position where they
can say, hey, we told you all everything. We've given you,
all the data, we're giving you, all the facts, we're
giving you. Everything you do football is dangerous.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Here you go.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
Yeah, And the only reason you they will not do that,
or they have not done what you just said, come
come completely clean, is there's still ongoing court cases and
things that are going against the NFL as far as
the CTE from the former players, and that's the part
where you cannot do it that way. And so the
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shadow that's cast by all of that is it's still looming,
and that's the part that you cannot do that. And
so I understand why that's not the case. Now as
far as the you know, the shooting incident and the
shooter trying to go in and solve this problem by himself,
that's just not.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
The way to do it.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
Absolutely, it's only hurting yourself, it's hurting your family, it's
hurting other people's families that, like you said, had nothing
to do with this, right, So that's a big no no.
But the crazy part about what you just said is
people are still going to consume this product. I don't
think there's anything that can be done that will cause
that to be the opposite.
Speaker 7 (10:07):
Right.
Speaker 5 (10:08):
I just had a call on the way over here
with a friend of mine asking me, should I put
my ten year old son in football?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
And you know what I said? Would? I said? Let
him play flag football? Again? Like that's me.
Speaker 5 (10:19):
I'm somebody that actually went through the fire. I played it,
had plenty of concussions, had a concussion in my first
preseason game, knocked out cold, and because I knew that
I had to make the team, I get back up
and still play, Like that's my decision.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Even though you're probably.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Basing a lot of those things, and those decisions based
off doctors and the team and the NFL and all
those things and laying out the stuff for you for
your safety, you're also for your livelihood to doing something
that you've want to do your whole life, and you
know what the benefits of it can be for you
and your family. So there's this thing where it's just
very hard to kind of be mad at the NFL
(10:57):
with this and for somebody to try to take some
take take matters into his own hands and try to
go course correct this thing.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's just not going to happen that way. It's not again,
and it's sad. Again.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
We don't know if that's what his issue was and
if he you know, but I do know look at
this so we know. Just to name some of these
junior seaw Aaron Hernandez, Andre Waters, Dave Derrison, they all
had confirmed CTE. And when you start to look further
into these numbers, it's absolutely it's astonishing what they found.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
So look at this.
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Ninety two percent of the of the folks that they
actually have studied. I take that back, it's hundred well
I have played in the NFL that they fl that
had it, fifth that had fifteen plus years. Ninety nine
percent of the brains that they have studied had CTE.
So the Boston University, who's been at the epicenter of this,
they've been leading this again, they had three hundred and
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forty five brains at the three hundred and seventy three
hundred and seventy six and of three hundred and forty
five of them were former NFL players. Study ninety two
percent of them had CTE. And of those numbers, that's
where we get the ninety nine percent that played fifteen
or more had it. So you look at the names
we led, we talk about it, and to me, that's
why I said, it reminds me of cigarettes. Hey, I'm
telling you now, it can cause cancer. You can die,
(12:12):
or you can be sick or secondhand smoke. In this case,
it will be hurt to your family, pain that they
have to go through if you end up being having
these brain issues. People are still signing up. We're watching
at crazy numbers, we're attending at crazy numbers. Business is booming,
and that's just where we are. And the NFL's pretty
much survived anything. We know that they were lying about
ct We get the information about CTE, we get a
(12:34):
movie about CTE, and we still consume and we watch
it and you see, you guy can kneel and people
felt like, hey, he shouldn't be penalized because hes kneeled.
And Colin Kaepernick people are still watching domestic violence issues.
People are still watching. So if you're the NFL, you
have just putt your their nonposition where they're king, and
we've just consumed. We're in trench. It's entrenched in us
(12:55):
and we love it and it's not going anywhere. And
to me, that's why in this guy's story, don't know
if it's true. Horrific events, terrible events, terrible decision making.
No one deserved this, you know. But on the CTE
side of the conversation, to me, I think here we are,
say twenty years later from really becoming a conversation. I
(13:18):
don't think that we care. Yeah, I don't think that
we care. And I think that the NFL kind of
has gone yeah, and it's a condo. And you know why,
because it's a conscious decision by everybody. So you're putting
the power in everybody else outside of the entity, outside
of the shield.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Right, we've we've we've confirmed it.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Whatever however much or small or how big that that
confirming was, it's been confirmed.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
Right.
Speaker 5 (13:46):
So now it's up to you as a consumer, as
a player, it's up to you, like you know, the warnings,
Like you said, you talked about it perfectly well with
the cigarette analogy. I love that because the olden days
of TV, the olden days of film, the old days,
the images that we saw was you know, with a cool,
like rustic looking actor with some Wrangler jeans and puffing
(14:07):
a cigarette and that was cool. Yeah, And so we
talked about the consumer consumerism when you look at the
product of the NFL, right for the most part, when
you look at that, the things that they do on
the field, like we'll sit back and say, man, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
And so the correlation one hundred percent hads up The
one thing I'll say before we break here to your
earlier point, I was going to get to this as well.
We're talking about tet. My point was the NFL needs
to just go ahead and say, hey, I told you
lay it all out. And the reason why one of
the reasons at least why they haven't is because they
haven't paid out everyone.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
That's my point.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Yeah, what you were saying earlier. Yeah, they we found
out they were doing race based brain testing. We're finding out,
you know, that only certain people are being paid others aren't.
They're holding up the money to people who were thought
they were getting this money, Families who thought they were
getting money. Whether you posthumously or folks who were dealing
with it in real time, because just to make sure
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we for the folks are clear, you can't determine TT
unless someone is dead, just for those who maybe didn't
know that. But so there's a bunch that we find
out that so many players who have filed for the claims.
Looking at this, you got players who filed for TTE
issues with brain dementia, and forty one at filed dementia
cases based on their diagnosis from the doctors, and only
(15:21):
about fifteen percent were approved. So there's a lot going
on with how they're getting people their money, who's getting
the money, And that's the issue to what you were
saying earlier, where they're still trying to keep quiet because
then they'll have to retroactively go back and take because
think about that guy retired of making it up seven
nineteen seventy seven. Yeah, who is like something ain't been
right and his family's like, man, something just changed five
(15:44):
ten years after retire, Well now they kind of know.
Now you can put a name that's what it was,
or that's what he's dealing with in the NFL doesn't
want to dies that, but I believe moving forward the NFL.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You ain't even got a hide none. We are proven,
We're all in. We are proven it is.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
There's a drug that America needs, America wants, no matter
what the situation is. We arguing about politics, we're working
about neeling, were working about CTE, We're working about domestic minds.
We're arguing about use of military and stuff. Again, we
don't matter. People want their NFL. Give me my parlays
and to me the NFL at this point, they ain't
got nothing else to hide because we have proven we
(16:22):
can't do without it as a society. There you go,
all right, eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox, if
you want to jump in on this, If you just
are a person who how do you feel knowing again,
we have had these conversations about CTE. We've heard about
the tragedies and the folks who have taken their lives
are the folks who are dealing with brain issues now
where we clearly know it's from football als A lot
of folks dealing with als from playing all of that football.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Do you feel guilty at all? Do you not care
at all? Maybe?
Speaker 4 (16:49):
Are you keeping your kids out of football all together?
Me and Rob g were talking, you know e from
Salam who will talk to a little bit about this.
He chooses to keep his sons out of football if
they're playing flagging out. You know, we'll see how long
it goes. I know Marcella is wiley. I used to
do the show with keeping them out of you know,
kind of the traditional pee wee football as well. It's
kind of changing people's lives. Eight seven, seven ninety nine
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Speaker 1 (19:17):
Know everything, you know.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
I've not met a single player yet, Yeah, who has
said no that he would not His guys who've mangled up,
some of them not all.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Some of them walk with a limp, some of them
every day wake up, got to take pain pills.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
They have never I've never met a former NFL player
who's went through it all and said he wouldn't do
it again. Yeah, are you gonna be the first one ever?
In my ten years of asking this question, you know.
Speaker 5 (19:44):
What, the fact that we're on radio and I could
be the first I would say I would do that
just for radio, but absolutely not like I would do
it again.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
And it's easy when you think.
Speaker 5 (19:59):
Of football players. They're warriors, right like, they're not thinking
about the future and I'm thinking about longevity. They're thinking
about doing the thing right now that they're really great
at in that moment. And those guys have always been
great at that and always been blessed to do it
and have this god given ability as well, where a
lot of people cannot do what we do what they've done.
(20:20):
So to say I wouldn't do it again with the
knowledge that I have it just would be blasphemous, because
I really I would do it again, and just looking
at the benefits that it's had for my family and
close friends and all that stuff.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
I had to be that breadwinner. I was chosen for this,
and most of those guys were chosen for that. And
that's what I think.
Speaker 4 (20:38):
Love, man, If you're telling me, and I'm serious, I've
heard them say, if I might lose ten years off
my life team, but my family is set forever. Maybe
a couple of generations two three. You know, a lot
of them said the same thing. All right, I want
to take a call again for those who just tune in.
We're talking about the tragedy that happened in New York
yesterday with the shooter that opened up in the building
and Parker Avenue in the same building in which the
(20:59):
NFL headquarters there, and they were trying They will now
say allegedly he was trying to get to the NFL building.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
He had a suicide note.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
There's three pages and he's claiming at CTE we're talking
about Now that you know about it, do you care?
Do you feel bad? Do you maybe wish the NFL
did more? Or you now at the place where you
say it is what it is? Eight seven, seven ninety
nine on Fox. Will take a couple quick ones before
we go to Steve the saga. Let's go to Reese
in Lexington. Reese and Lexington, you're on with the odd
couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 11 (21:24):
What's up, guys, how are y'all doing tonight?
Speaker 1 (21:26):
What's up? Reasoning?
Speaker 12 (21:26):
Well, we're doing good, you know, just getting to the
you know, listen to the conversation.
Speaker 11 (21:32):
I think sometimes you know, we put football.
Speaker 12 (21:34):
I'm not saying on a pedestal, but you know, to
be you know that they play and.
Speaker 7 (21:39):
They know the risk.
Speaker 11 (21:40):
But you know, I mean, it's a society thing.
Speaker 7 (21:42):
He said that.
Speaker 11 (21:42):
You know, the publics, you know, bought in. You know,
society loves violence.
Speaker 7 (21:46):
You know, we don't have this.
Speaker 11 (21:47):
Conversation about boxing or MMA or anything like that. I mean,
people you know nowadays know you get blows.
Speaker 12 (21:53):
To the head, you know, especially you know, I mean
as fast and you know the NFL or.
Speaker 11 (21:59):
You know d one com football is. We know the consequences,
and you know nobody's going to back up off of
it and say, hey, I'm you know, I'm not gonna
watch this because it's too violent. Because you know, us
as a nation we love violentce I mean, you know,
I mean, and so I think sometimes you know, the
conversation I understand is NFL and then the biggest thing out.
Speaker 12 (22:18):
There, but you know, it's everything with violence.
Speaker 1 (22:21):
I don't agree Reese were only one thing I would add, Reese.
Speaker 4 (22:24):
I think subconsciously we saw pads, we saw helmets, so
we thought it wasn't that bad. You see Tom Brady's
or the Joe Montanas who seem to be fine and
look fine. And I think subconsciously, for decades you just
kind of thought football to you. You might walk with
a limp, your shoulder might hurt at night sometimes or
when the weather drops gets bad, the pressure your knees hurt,
but nothing brain. I don't think we just associated with
(22:46):
that for years. Reeese will be. My only point is
that now I think we do more so than we did.
One more quick one Drew real quick. You're on with
the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 8 (22:56):
Hey, guys, yeah, I think a lot, like you said,
a lot of people would do were good. And I mean,
and I'm sure even Kerry, I'm sure when you were
playing you knew, you know, concussions are going to impact
you long term. I mean you look at like the
boxers from back then. Oh yeah, it might not have
been like as well research exactly what the full CT was,
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but we knew the impact. What I was saying is
I don't the reason why. Yeah, you feel somewhat bad,
but I don't feel totally bad. It's this is not
a situation where like we put you know, we put
soldiers in Afghanistan next to burn pits, and they didn't
know that that's exposure. I'm gonna get cancer right now.
We screw screw them out. You know, the VA is
pretty terrible. Yeah, and you have people fighting for insurance
(23:45):
health insurance and those situations. That's totally different, no doubt,
do you feel bad, But it's different when you're getting
concussion for thirty million dollars. Right, I'll take that there.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
You appreciate you as always.
Speaker 8 (23:56):
Man.
Speaker 5 (23:56):
Thank The crazy part about what you just said at
the at the end, at the end there is it's
just as hard for football players to get insured as
well after football. So that same part, that's what he
to say, like about with veterans said, there's a small
window of when you can even claim LD, which is
line of duty, and once that time is over, and
it's very specific after your plan years I think it's
(24:18):
five years, it's three three. Like as far as putting
in the complaint, okay, oh gotcha. You know you're insure
for the first three after it is it's five. Yeah,
that you if you don't put it in by then
you can't even put in the claim anymore. So it's
a lot of things that football players did not know.
Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1 (24:47):
Steve, thank you so much.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Just to add couple, Calvin Washington, my man Carry Rose
in for Ron Parker on a trash Talking Tuesday. I'll
be coming up in a little bit, looking forward to
that and yeah, i'd be you know that it's gonna
be some crazy stuff going on there now.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
Joining us as always.
Speaker 4 (25:00):
He from salam former NFL offensive line in Fox Sports
Radio Weekends. E from salam Is on X and socials. Hey, man,
I want to get straight to it, just your thoughts.
Tragedy that occurred in New York. We had the shooter
who was trying to get to the NFL building, killed
four people, killed themselves. A horrible situation and again our
thoughts and definitely concerns and prayers and just trying to
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i mean, the gun issues in America.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
That's the story for another day. But a horrible situation.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
But the conversation we tried to segue it to the
idea about CTE, which is what that the killer shooter
said that he said it claiming he had we don't
know for sure. Obviously, just your thought on how we
kind of went from the last twenty years where it
was a big concern and people were mad at the
NFL and there was a lot of issues and fans
and players wanted to know about it. Now we got
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a lot of research, We got a lot of data.
We found out so much about it and how pervasive
it is with those who their brains that they've studied.
Speaker 1 (25:56):
Where do you think we are do we just not care?
Speaker 8 (25:58):
Is?
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Are we over it?
Speaker 4 (25:58):
And also just what you've learned about it yourself playing
and ask carry I've not met a former football player
yet who said he wouldn't do it all over again
knowing everything.
Speaker 7 (26:07):
Well, you know, because those players, myself, Carrie and everybody
else changed their whole family, social economics, you know, trajectory
for life. So if there is something that you do
to benefit your family for generations to come, then yeah,
I mean football players inherently aren't selfish because it's a
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team sport. Think of your family as a team and
what would you do to help your family or your
team win and get ahead. So I would absolutely play
And you know this, I've told you there's a million
times and I played football, So my kids wouldn't have to. Ye,
they do anything they want to, and that's just the
way it is. And in terms of the tragedy that
struck New York yesterday about the young man who played
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high school football and blamed the NFL for his CTE,
and he never played in the NFL, so I didn't
quite understand the correlation of why he was so angry
at the NFL and he hadn't even I don't believe
even played in college. I don't think what I've seen
so far right, so the implication of the NFL causing
(27:17):
his CTE and he was targeting them, I didn't understand
what the connection was. I also understand he had been
suffering from mental health issues for quite some time. So
it's easy for people to point the finger at the
sport and this and that. But I don't see the
(27:39):
connection between the tragedy that happened at the NFL offices
yesterday and the actual you know, perpetrator like those don't connect. Now,
With that said, moving on to the question you really
asked in terms of you know, it does matter the
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thing that I didn't have and Carrie didn't have when
we were playing in the NFL where we didn't have
all the information, right, I didn't know concussions or multiple
concussions can lead to long term brain issues that Boone
was talking about. That that wasn't I wasn't a neuroscientist
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when when I was in college, my understudy or whatever,
so I didn't have that information. I do know. I
don't think I've ever missed a game or a play
from a concussion, so that there was no independent neurologists
with a red hat watching every play. I think the
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NFL is doing what they can to make the game safer.
They's taken some of the hilacious hits that were standard hits.
The equipment is better. They don't practice full pads as much.
They're in training camp. They have ramp up days opposed
to jumping right to jump you right into two A
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day's full pads for you know, four or five weeks.
So the NFL is doing everything they can to minimize
the effects of the head trauma and so on and
so forth, and I commend them for it. It's a
contact board. It's going to be violent. Guys are going
to get concussions, but they're not registering as much as
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they were prior to the New Standards.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Hey, I love everything you said there.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
I just weren't talk about ramping up, and I want
to kind of switch the conversation a little bit from that.
Speaker 1 (29:36):
I mean, it's heavy.
Speaker 5 (29:37):
It's one of those things where obviously, you know, people
have their concerns and their thoughts about it, but like
you said, the game is physical and it is what
it is. But talking about ramping up, you know, everybody's
getting the training camp. You're seeing some of the guys
that were possible holdouts and holding out for certain times
showing up. You saw Terry McLaurin finally show up at
the Commander's camp. And now we just getting news that
(29:59):
Trade Hindrick has showed up to Cincinnati. What do you
think about that? That team and they got to get
him signed. They don't have anybody else on that side.
So what do you think is going on with all
this Cincinnati talk right now?
Speaker 7 (30:10):
Well, I think Cincinnati's got an issue. I think they
thought they addressed their issues and spending a boatload of
money on the offensive side of the ball, but the
flat out and neglect on the defensive side is one
of the reasons they didn't make the playoffs. Last year,
Joe Burrow put up historic numbers. Both of US receivers
had tremendous years and they didn't make the playoffs. So,
(30:33):
you know, not being able to stop somebody. The NFL
has never been a league where you can outscore everybody.
You're going to have to play defense at some point
if you want to be successful and if you want
to go deep into the playoffs and make a run
at the playoffs. And the fact that they alienated their
first round pass rusher who was their edge guy and
(30:56):
they're all pro edge guy, it lets you know the
mentality of the organization. They're putting a lot on Joe
Burrow's shoulders, and that's not fair to him. He even
spoke out.
Speaker 12 (31:08):
Uh and and and on behalf of of of his teammate,
like they need to.
Speaker 7 (31:14):
Get it done and so on. But the Bengals have
been historically a chief franchise. They don't like to spend money,
and so this doesn't it's not out of place for me.
It doesn't seem odd that they are taking so long
to do this or not doing it at all. I mean,
I think they feel like, hey, we spent the money already,
(31:36):
so we'll see how this year goes, and and and
move on from there. When everybody else is really hammering
down and getting better. They're in a division where they
can't afford not to play defense today. That's not gonna happen.
They're gonna get wiped out off off the planet without
a doubt.
Speaker 1 (31:54):
But I love your analogy you gave. The last time
you were here.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
You and I were talking about the Bengals, basically saying, look,
Joe Burrow's actingly like the kid who wants the parents
to say, all right, we'll take you to Disney World
or Universal.
Speaker 1 (32:04):
And if kid goes, let me bring him and him
and her and him and her.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
Hey hey, hey, hey, you can't give everybody. This ain't
your money. And you said, that's how Joe Burrow's acting.
How did Universal go? I know your son's birthday won.
Speaker 1 (32:13):
It this week?
Speaker 7 (32:15):
Yeah it was. He had a ball They had a
ball man, They had a good You know, they love
they love it. They My oldest son is fourteen now.
He rashid. He's all about you know, Disney Parks and
Universal and theme rides and all that. He's gonna be
an imagineer when he grows up. And so he had.
(32:35):
He had a phenomenal time. Costs a lot of money.
But you know they don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
They don't care at all.
Speaker 7 (32:39):
You care, they don't care.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
That's why Daddy got to always get to work. Hey,
he we appreciate you so well.
Speaker 7 (32:45):
Though both of my kids are in the car, and
my eleven year old it's like, what about me. Well,
Elijah is a basketball and we're on our way to
basketball practice right down. So there you go.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
All right, there you go.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
Give him a shout out to all right, fellas were here.
We see what y'all doing. Thank you, Thank you for
us to borrow daddy for a few minutes.
Speaker 1 (33:04):
We appreciate you, appreciate no doubt.
Speaker 4 (33:06):
All right on the way, Play of the day, Carrie.
And also a sports movie part two that I don't
really think we asked for.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
We'll tell you what it is. It's the couple carry
in for Rob. Fox Sports Radio. I hit it so
good today, it was fun.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
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Speaker 4 (33:32):
Uh Hey, this is all I saw carry You would
get on I was just about to say, I don't
listen to much rap more like this type of vibe.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
But this is a vibe. This is you, This is
the vibe.
Speaker 4 (33:42):
It is the odd couple Kevin Washington, Carry Roads and
on the trash talking Tuesday, about an hour away from
that coming up next hour, looking forward to that, and
it signed out for your tire Reck play of the day.
Speaker 1 (33:57):
The pitch swung on.
Speaker 13 (33:59):
Luked in the left field, has a chance, it finds
the grass picked up by Dowan one run scores. Here
comes Willie Castro Hill score and brook Slee on the
same day as Buddy gets traded to Detroit ends up
celebrating a walk off victory over the Boston Red Sox.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Whuys getting victory there and that says on the Twins radio,
and of course there's a tire rec play of the day.
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(34:38):
what's up? You watched it. I turned it on and said,
what am I doing? Let me get my life together?
Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (34:45):
And then a bunch of other people have sit I mean,
people have really tried to, like like Jamael Hill, you know,
you know she gonna drop a dissertation on you, and
she dropped one. And everybody's trying to justify, like all right,
or make sense? Are like or do the opposite, like
what did I just watch? Yeah, and we're talking about
Happy Gilmore too, rob g you watch it?
Speaker 1 (35:03):
I did watch it, so I know you didn't watch something.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Watch it?
Speaker 3 (35:07):
You did?
Speaker 6 (35:08):
You are here because I'm getting paid to.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
Okay, what did you think?
Speaker 4 (35:12):
Because usually you could, oh, come on, ease up. It
was just a fun movie. What it wasn't trying to
be Casa Blanca, but it's just a fun.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
No one liked this one.
Speaker 4 (35:22):
And that's what shocked me was because you I expected
to be a contingency of people were like, come on, man,
it was just nostalgic and fun.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, nobody liked it. Did any of you like it?
Speaker 14 (35:31):
No?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
No, rober you had the cricket sound well, yeah, I'm
sure can find it. You know why though? Why?
Speaker 8 (35:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (35:40):
Where was where was the miss there's no need.
Speaker 6 (35:43):
Well, it made him an alcoholic, his wife died, and
then now he's like playing golf again.
Speaker 4 (35:49):
Yeah, big spoiler. No, I just dropped the first five minute. True,
but it did just drop like twenty four hours ago.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'll watch it. I thought we got like a two
week rule.
Speaker 14 (35:58):
He already had almost forty seven million people have watched it,
forty million accounts.
Speaker 1 (36:02):
Seven million. I've watched that movie already. But that's because.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
You put you back into you were eight years old,
fourteen year old, eighteen year old self, and everybody thought, oh,
happy giving, just like when they dropped Coming to America.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Also terrible.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
And y'all know our Senio Hall is a big fan
of the show. Shout out to our Sineo.
Speaker 5 (36:23):
Sineo.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
But uh, it was it was bad mutual radio right now,
That wasn't it. That was bad And we had to
do it because you had to do it right. You
had to honor the history of it.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
And you don't have to know. I meant us the viewer, like,
gott I just gotta do it. I gotta do it.
Let me just do it. I'm nervous to the whole
time about the press play.
Speaker 7 (36:46):
I wasn't it.
Speaker 5 (36:47):
Calvin Happy Gilmore was so bad? Was Coming to America?
The best movie ever Coming to America? Was equally bad.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
No, I'm saying, was it better? It was equally bad.
I don't care.
Speaker 5 (36:58):
I mean, you know, we're splitting hairs here. But man,
when you watched that movie, man, it was like it
was just cameos. They did play on the nostalg japart
obviously way too much. But the movie made no It
felt like an Instagram real you just see what that's
collection of scenes?
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Yeah, well, you know what, and famous people.
Speaker 1 (37:19):
That's it.
Speaker 6 (37:19):
Who cares? This isn't like you know in the eighty
sitcom where somebody walks in there like nobody cares. It's
Kelsey Cool, catch a ball, bad Bunny, drop a beat.
Speaker 1 (37:30):
I don't care. That's that.
Speaker 4 (37:33):
The one thing I heard was that bad Buddy kind
of was that people liked to he was funny by accident.
Speaker 1 (37:39):
That's just him. It's not like he was doing really
good actor. Let's let's be clear about that.
Speaker 4 (37:43):
And what's crazy is, so here's what you get with
Netflix and Hulu's and Amazon Prime movies. Right now, they're
spending a lot on the one actor. Nothing else. How
many Netflix movies have you seen where there are two
locations whatever. They're in the role C G I and
they're in whatever the room is. If it's a movie
about sports radio, then it's here and then it's my house.
Speaker 1 (38:06):
That's it.
Speaker 4 (38:06):
We ain't traveling, we ain't on the road. We didn't
go see my people in Michigan, none of that. We
are not on location. You were in that one stude
because and they're like, hey, we're gonna pay Kevin Hart,
Adam Sandler, Eddie Murphy, and there's like three or four
other actors. They gave, Hey, here's one hundred million for
you five six movie deal. Adam Sandler's like eight million,
two hundred million whatever he's got to give him eight movies.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
Now.
Speaker 4 (38:29):
I liked Uncut Gems. I liked Hustle. I can't front Hustle.
Surprised me. I was like, Oh, that's actually pretty good.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
That was we're Netflix movies. I thought they were.
Speaker 14 (38:40):
No, they were distributed on Netflix, but they're like, you
think it was eight twenty four and that happened they
get distributed on Well, I'm gonna need him to call
them up instead of a twenty four. I needed to
be h e h e y hey twenty four three
because cut Jim. He was just an actor on that.
He didn't that wasn't him, It wasn't Oh so did
(39:00):
that count on the eight?
Speaker 3 (39:02):
No?
Speaker 4 (39:02):
Oh dang we no, I will have to miss it. Yeah,
but we can't waste that one now now they got
carried away. I was looking at the uh top New
York Times Top one hundred movies of all time list.
First of all, on Coat Jem shouldn't be on the list.
I love it, but it should be on one hundred movies.
It was like fifty third or something sixty like whoa, whoa,
whoa mm I am. I almost had to cut. Somebody
(39:24):
ain't buying that was extreme? Did not buy that?
Speaker 1 (39:28):
All right, we gonna talk justin Herbert. It's time to
have a conversation. Yes,
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