June 2, 2025 • 38 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not head coach Tom Thibodeau should be fired after the New York Knicks were unceremoniously bounced out of the NBA Playoffs, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, NBA champion and FOX Sports Radio NBA analyst Antonio Daniels swings by to discuss Thibs’ future with the Knicks, how New York can re-tool around Jalen Brunson and Karl-Anthony Towns, why he’s expecting the Oklahoma City Thunder to roll over the Indiana Pacers in the upcoming NBA Finals, and much more!
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Speaker 3 (01:40):
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my sir co host, mister Bruh, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How did you enjoy your Yankee Dodger weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was good. It's good. Great to be out the
ballpark of good weather.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Sending me great pictures hanging out with all time legend.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Reggie Jackson with the MLB bro.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Come on, that was That was a great picture right there,
because you need to know that was great.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, Reggie's looks great.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Nine years old, not fat, not out of shape, like healthy.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It looks healthy. You saw you can ask seventy eight,
you know, seventy nine. I'm sorry, seventy nine looks good.
It looks like if they put it down a little
bit rob about sixty two miles per hour, he might
be able to hit something.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And I'm gonna tell you that that dude was a player,
like let's not you know what I mean, Like you
talk about great players, all time great players. If you
can't look at that guy and go when you got
a nickname, mister October, they don't just give that to anybody.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And we know what that would mean to you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
If I'm calling you that that means you must stay
in the postseason first off, and you must do work
in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I mean you don't get that off. Oh he had
a game, No, no, no, mister October. That was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I had a great time Friday night of going like
we talked about Friday Night Man, a bunch of you know,
obviously home runs and the series let up to we'll
talk a little bit about it. LA good games over
the weekend, next weekend pool Day, Saturday pool Day.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
With the fan, the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We had a neighborhood appreciation day, so everybody, it was
nice weekend man.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
All yours was good too, No doubt.
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able to do this fine radio program without him. Rob
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all dolled up.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
All I'm gonna say, Mary, I'm not even gonna be
in your head today. All I'm gonna say, is Roger
these two and I'm pointing, make it real obvious when
they got somebody in there, like please, she comes up
here here, I didn't know, No, no, robb G, robb
g all, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Miss Mary Matt came in like she was on to
hit the runway. And then Rob Parker came in out
the blue. Hey, I'm getting rid of red meat. I'm
getting rid of this. I'm not doing this. I want
to lose twenty five more pounds and I'm gonna do this.
It's all I'm gonna say. Look, y'all make it obviously,
y'all got somebody I know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
No, No, let's get the show started. I'm just saying,
Rob G feels me, and let's get the show started.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Let's do that, all right, Okay, So obviously the finals
are set. We know it's the Pacers and the Thunder.
We'll get into that. The finals doesn't start till Thursday.
But there's some stuff we need to you know, hash
out and talk about of the fallout because the last series,
of course, was the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And the Knicks and Rob G.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't think I don't know we didn't talk about this,
but do we have the sound or no from Jalen
Brunton when they were asking him about he got yeah,
like is that a real question? It was kind of like,
am I right? Rob g that fair?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was like, is that a real right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, he's gonna talk to me now. He didn't know
what I was gonna be saying. Okay, he didn't know.
But my point is this, And I know if you're
Nick fans, you know they were ready in the streets
and they were naming streets after players and all that.
But if you're a New York Knick fan and you
don't think what happened this season was a failure, then
you have no idea what's going on. The twenty twenty
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four to twenty five season was a big failure for
the New York Knicks. You went out, you got Karl
Anthony Towns, you made a big trade Miquel Bridges, you
gave a five first round picks, right.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You did all these things.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And the idea that last year went the second round
lost right in seven games to the Patriots. You wanted
to be better, you thought, blah blah blah. You made
all those moves.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Not only that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You beat the defending champs, and you can talk about,
you know, all the Celtics got Tatum, got hurt. No, no, no,
they won the first two games in Boston, being down
by twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Once you do that, you tear up the script.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So all the people didn't think the Knicks were gonna
go because they couldn't beat the Celtics because of all
what happened in regular seasons. That changed, and so should
have the expectations of this basketball team, which was that
they were gonna finally get to the championship for the
first time in twenty five years, right since nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Prince sang about it. The Knicks were.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
About it back then, and now this year they have
the Celtics beating up. The only team in their way
is the Indiana Pacers, a team that nobody talked about
all year, a team that no one expected to beat
the Cavaliers, and a team you had down by fourteen
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with two thirty eight to go, down by nine with
fifty seconds to go. You win Game one at Madison
Square Garden and you're.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Going to the finals.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Okay, you would have had a chance to go to
the finals right there, and guess what they didn't do
It they choked that down, lost Game two at home,
and basically the series was over. I told you after
they lost Game one they weren't going to the finals.
You don't recover from that. They forced a Game six
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and guess what, their stars don't show up in Game
six at Indiana have awful shooting nights.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Ray Charles could see that. I mean, like just awful.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Don't celebrate the New York Knicks for what they did
in the excitement they gave the city, had people in
the streets, had rats carrying pizza all over town, and celebration.
None of it, added Kelvin, none of it. They failed
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this season. The Knicks should be in the NBA Finals,
not the Indiana Pacers. And for that reason, if I'm
the Knicks, I gotta look at TIBs and honestly make
a change.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And if you ask me who I got the who.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
His name is Michael Malone, who coached the Denver Nuggets
to a soup to an NBA Finals championship.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
All right, let me say this, and I never in
my life thought I would be sitting up here defending
the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What in the world has the world come to?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
All Right, Rob Now this is where I gotta bring
you back down to reality a little bit. None of
us went into this Eastern Conference playoffs thinking the Knicks
really had a shot. In fact, we came on all
of us talking about how they underachieved and they were
one of the worst three seeds or are like, oh,
nobody believes it is they don't even beat the good teams.
And not only did they come in and beat solid
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teams and the Pistons and upcomings team, they beat the
reigning champs, and then they beat the Pacers, who, by
the way, were thirty four and fourteen since January first.
The only team better than them are in the finals
the Oklahoma City Thunder. So the Pacers have actually been
it's our fault for ignoring them as being the second
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best team in the NBA since the beginning of twenty
twenty five. So the Knicks come in, they beat a
young Pistons team who has a really good team, they
beat the rainning champs, and they lose admirably in six
to the Pacers. Now, also, when you look at what
they've done for an organization that is underachieved for twenty
five thirty years, to me, they have something to hang
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their hat on. They have officially when thousand percent, unequivocally
found their guy, and we know how hard that is
in sports. Jalen Brunton, is he perfect, No, but he's
a heck of a player, one of the best clutch
players in the league, one cutch player of the year.
And then you have a guy in kar Anthony Towns
who you say, okay, the trade he played, Well, there's
some things we can work on, and that's a conversation
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for another day. But to me, the next overachieved. We
literally kept going, Okay, this is about it. Now they'd
had their fun, Okay, there's no all right, well theirth's
gonna come back again. Okay, well, I mean not the
PACER's gonna And they got six out of this. And
so to me, I'm looking at the Knicks and saying,
they played hard. You never ever ever felt like they quit.
They literally competed all in all the games. And I
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even gotta give teams who I never want to give
credit to, because all he does is look like another
version of Darvin Ham with his hands in his pockets.
Instead is are hands voted. But we talked about and
I said, man, he's got to start playing that bench
a little bit. He's got to get there's no way
they can sustain those legs. Those legs are gonna go
out on them, and they sustained throughout the season. Michel Bridges,
who is the iron man, calling them out, Hey, man,
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gotta we gotta get some breaks. We're tired. They fall
through that as a team. They get in the postseason,
guys are playing too much.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Again.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He starts to play the bitch, he plays right, he
plays Sammy, he plays, goes to Mitchell Robinson more, he
plays the McBride. He starts to play some guys. And
I gotta give him credit that he at least was
trying to do something. So this was an overachievement. It
to me, they have some things that if I were
the general manager, absolutely we're addressing.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
There's some things to fix.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But man, there's no way if I'd have told you
starting in the beginning of the season the Knicks would
be a game and a half away from being in
the finals, did you would think that they underachieved?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Now, I don't even know how you could even think
about them underachieving when they beat the defending champs that
nobody expect him to beat and they're up by fourteen
against the Pacers at home. It's one thing if they
got molly wopped and got swept by the Pacers and
they were just better, but they coughed up an historic choke.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
If you can't get.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Fired off historic choke, you can never get fired. I'm
dead serious. Like the idea that you think they underachieved
blowing and not only did they do that, you thought
they bounced back in game two, right, because all right,
I was just one game, one game. They they not
only did that, they lost game two at home to
the Pacers, and and so you're in a two to
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zero hole, which you're not going to bounce back. There's
no way you can look at that and call that
an over.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So how did I How am I not firing Missoula
Missoula because they won a championship, but then.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
They need a championship team.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, No, do not lose two games from the twenty
because they won one. It does I'm saying based off
that they lost one, They and he literally just got
them further than any any team they got into twenty
five years. And again I'm not sitting there reacting like
he's Phil Jackson. But if my star player comes out
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and it gives him a major endorsement. My player I
am absolutely tied to in Jalen Brupton. He ain't going nowhere,
and he is my guy, and he who sings a
ringing endorsement.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
The guy's got me further. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm in the playoffs two years in a row, which
does not happen to the Knicks all the time. Two
years in a row, and not only two years in
a row, I improve, I get further than I did the
next year. I don't see why they're gonna end up
firing that guy easy because they did it before. Can
I give you an example?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yes, Can I give you Rick Carlile and the Detroit Pistons.
Can I give you an example? And I want you
to listen to this example. The Pistons had gotten further
than they had ever gone with Rick Carlile. And guess
what they looked and said, there's Larry Brown.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And at that time, Larry had never won a championship
in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But he was a better coach at that time than
Rick Carlile.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
If you're the Knicks and Timbs, He's never been.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Able to go further with any team he's been Mike Malone.
Michael Malone is available. Mike Malone is not a question
mark whether you can get a team to where you
need to go.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
He's available.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Teams you upgrade when you have a chance to upgrade.
And that's the example I'm gonna give you because I
have seen it before. Smart teams go. Thank you, Tibbs,
you got it to a certain point. keV is his difference.
First of all, there's a massive different. Rick Carlile was
just starting to coach facts or none fact.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But he's still want to go facts or no facts. Now,
he was a new coach that they thought, all right, cool,
that was cute.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Here comes this forty five fifty year veteran and uh
and your boy Brown, Larry Brown. So this is not
the same where Timms is a veteran quarter coach who
has been there, who is veteran.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Players love and adore him. I'm not stamping him.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm just saying, if Jalen Brunson and your front off
has already come out and say he's their guy, he's
gonna be their guy.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And again the team is overachieved.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
None of us thought they would do this in the
beginning of this playoffs and they lost to the Pacers,
who have the second best record since the turn.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It changes, that changes once you beat Celtics. Come on, man,
you don't go backwards once you've already.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
They were the better team than the Celtics. Said, no, no,
they literally weren't.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They were the best teams, the only team better than
the January Who had Who had a higher seed in
the playoffs? I just said, I don't care about that.
Who had a higher seed doesn't matter? Does January fourth?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The favorite in that series wasn't the Knicks or the Pacers.
The Pacers were playing, They were not the favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The Pacers the only team that played better than there's
the two teams in the Whigs.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Who was the higher seed and who was the favorites?
I'm asking you. The Celtics underachieved. We've all talked about that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
We're talking about who I'm talking about with the Knicks
and the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Two questions.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So higher seeds, No, the Knicks. I'm talking about about
the Celtics, the Knicks, okay, And who was the favorite
in that series?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Was the Knicks? Yes? It was all right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So if you hold on, if you're on adamant, Why
did you pick the Pacers to win?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Because I still didn't believe in TIBs and that dire's
your point. So my point is that I don't believe
in tailors. I don't believe in TIBs. I don't care
if they call you mister Tibbs. I want you, mister
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Speaker 4 (16:24):
I'm as passionate as it gets with this.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You got me over here acting like I like Tims
like I don't even like Tims like that.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But they overachieved, Rob, No, they're underachieved.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Should the Knicks fire head coach Tom Thibodeau.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is The
Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I need some water, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington right here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Stick and stay unless you really thought the Knicks were
gonna be beat five Mason, though.
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Speaker 4 (17:32):
Who we got? Let's start with Jay in Georgia. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Jay?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Hey? We're going on.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Guys. How y'all doing great? Hey? Rob?
Speaker 7 (17:44):
I agree with you, Camp. I think you were being
a little too nice to the need because Worth they
beat the steps intoo are the defeating champ and then
once Cleveland had all those players hurt and they got
knocked dogs basically had no path the fight.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Talk about it.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
We can talk about the patients all you want, man,
Come on, I mean that Hella bird, he's still a
little overrated. They're just me. But what's the trade for
car after the town and you give a final piece
of bridges, you're basically saying in spite of a butt.
So that's my take over. There can out for you
right quick?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
What's that? Real quick? Jay?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
D Okay? So I don't I don't get the call
in all the time, but I do listen to the
podcast and y'all was talking about Chris and the hair
dye last week, Man tailor, you almost fill out in
my chair.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Man, which one? Well, I could? What do you say? What?
Speaker 8 (18:39):
What?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
What got you?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
We are talking?
Speaker 7 (18:42):
We all talking about Chris and he's leaving his hair dye.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Oh yeah, about Christmas and his hair dye?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah glow yeah yeah. I mean, uh situations Derek and Houston.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Derek?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
What's up? Guys? How y'all doing?
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Hey? You just want to touch on the Tom Thibodaux situation.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Rob you.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
I think he had a good point with regard that
it may be time for him to be out. I
want him to stay in. But I'm gonna use a
story from McDonald's theory how you can hit a glass ceiling.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
McDonald's started out with trying to be a mom and
pop shot and at a certain point they didn't want
to franchise and they end up going making a lot
of money, but they didn't make nothing with until great
Crop bust them through that glass ceiling. So with Tom Tibbadeau,
they may have they may have reached their point. I'd
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like to see him stay, but they also need a
coach that's going to be able to coach Cat up
as well, because that dude makes a lot of mistakes,
a lot of dumb files, and he's not getting all
the aggression that you need out of here each and
every game.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He ain't never did it about eight nine years in
the league.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I hear you. I agree with you on what he
needs to do, but he ain't it yet. How about
the will and was content? You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What's up? Well, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Rob? What's going on?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Calvin?
Speaker 9 (20:06):
And are really good man and excited man? You know
for the season to end. Guys that played well from
last year to this year or so, it's been great,
you know, to really see but Rob, to your point, Uh,
this is gonna be the telling factor of where James
Dolan is in his ownership. I know he divests himself
of the Governor's Board and all that, but that wasn't
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to like make the Knicks better. It was because of,
you know, his issue that he had with Adam Silver.
So it becomes one of these things where you know,
between him and mister Rose there, they're gonna have to
find a way. I don't think the pathway is really
to Addi Giannis, because I think they have they have
a championship team, they beat, they beat Boston, you know,
who are perennially getting deep in the playoffs. So that's
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you know that that's a credit to those players. But
Mitchell Robinson's got to take elite man, and Kat has
to find some different ways, some different playing level to
really maximize on what he's where he's at. But thanks
for taking a call, guys.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
No problem, Yep, We're appreciated.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Sorry we couldn't get to more you. Well, that's allry.
We got last call the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
If you want to get in all right, got Antonio
Daniels on the way right now, Steve, the saga was trending.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Hey, Steve, be sure to catch live editions of The
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Speaker 4 (21:43):
Ad?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
What's up? Man? First? First and foremost, I have to congratulate, hold.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
On, hold on, hold on, do not don't do it.
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Don't congratulate me because you can't do it. Instead, we
wait for in a formal announcement, thank you though.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Hey, d oh, okay, all right, I won't well, I
won't do it.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Thank you do them announcements.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
In other words, how you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I appreciate you. Hey, let's go. Hear me and Kelvin
are having a big argument.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm saying the Knicks, we're supposed to go to the
finals after they beat the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
They were number one seed. They blew a fourteen point
lead with Game one.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Whatever I had a clear path, Cleveland got knocked off.
Here it is, and I'm saying that if I could
upgrade at the coaching position, I would get rid of
TIBs and hire Michael Malone tomorrow. Because they underachieved. They
were supposed to go to the final.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Just Rob listen, let's let's keep it Hone.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
You ain't picked no pat to go to the finals?
Did you? Did you pick the FI I'm asking you.
Did you pick the Pacers?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Did you pick the Knicks the conference?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I didn't know. I did not. I didn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, but on no, hold on, rum, we're not talking
about the Pacers, right, We're talking about the Knicks. And
if we're not talking about the Pacers, we're talking about
the Knicks. And this is what I say. No, I
haven't picked the Pacers to go to the finals, but
we're not talking about them. We're talking about the Knicks.
The Knicks actually overachieved because if you think of where
they were last year, right, Remember they got eliminated second
(23:26):
round last year by the same exact team. This year
they got eliminated in the Eastern Conference finals. I don't
think this is attempt situation. I think it's the way
the roster's constructed. There are some things that they need
to change. I still think see this is the peris
is what always happens when the team gets eliminated, everybody
kind of goes in on that team. This team did
(23:46):
not underachieve, Yes they did not.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
They beat the Celtics right by coming back from two
twenty point games on the road. Okay, so they knock
off the Celtics. They have the Pacers down in game
one by fourteen, we're two thirty to go. A thousand
games in that same scenario been played and no one
had ever lost the game until the next game.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Hold on.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Then they come back to.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Game two to make it an equalizer and guess what
they do. They lose and Tibbs doesn't play the bench. Okay,
and those guys peter out at the end. But are
you kiddings time to move war from him?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
If you're telling me, if you're telling me that you
have an issue with Bibbs not playing his bench, join
the club. So do I. I'm a guy that came
up the bitch thirteen years in this league.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
There you go. You know what it means.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I know what that means to not be trusted and
to have to be played out of necessity as opposed
to being played out of trust. But here's the thing,
that's who Thibs has always been. And if you're telling
me that you want to upgrade because you want this
team to get deeper, and because when you're playing against
a team like the Indiana Pacers, it becomes a war Patrician.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
No, and Rick Calau out coached them. Rick carl is
a way better coaching. Yeah, but coaching does count. Okay,
coaching does count. And guess who's sitting out there, Michael Malone,
who coached the Nuggets to a championship and I made
it to this Antonio.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
The Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Had a young Rick Carla who had gotten the Pistons
to the second round when they hadn't done anything in years,
and Larry Brown was available, who had never won a championship.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And you know what they did.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
They upgraded and they won the next year with Larry Brown.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
But Rob they also upgraded the roster by Wallace.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, but when Larry Brown was a big part of
it because he made Chaunty better, a better player.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
I was.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I was that covered that team.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I get it. No, questions, No question about it. But
I'll go back to what we talked about the Knicks
for two and a half hour today, have our three
hour show about what can they do to upgrade? What
can they do to improve? What can they do to
get better? It is not simply Everything is not simply
a coaching issue. Sometimes it's roster constructions, how the team
(26:13):
is constructed. There are certain areas that team needs to
get better in. And I don't know if that falls
on fans. I don't know if that falls on fins
or not. But to say that it's it's simply a
tense conversation and once you upgrade there, everything will fall
in place. I still you keep everything status quo.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I didn't say that it is. I didn't say that.
I didn't. I didn't say that you.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Do that does not put you past the Indiana Pacers.
I just seem that eliminated on back to back years.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I just don't think that you're going to get there.
Sometimes coaches could get to it to a certain level
and then other coaches could take you over the top.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
That That's where i'mting.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I agree with that, agree with that, adr guests Antonio Daniels,
I do I just thought they overachieved. None of us
thought that they were. We all said they were underachieving things.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Everybody had them going to the finals, red nick street
names named after the players win it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
No they didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I'm talking about after they beat the Celtics, everybody and their.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Uncle had them going.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Come on, man, No, that's not that's not how his
works roped, That's not how his works.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yes, it is. You change your expectations when things happened.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
So you after they beat the Celtic, you go, oh,
but they're still not going to get to the finals.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Man, this is the same team you didn't say that
beat him last year?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, Game seven and they were a little banged up
at Madison Square. Go. I'm not gonna make excuses. The
Pacers did win in a Game seven. I've never seen
if Antonio. If you can't get fired after blowing a
fourteen point lead with two minutes and thirty seconds to go,
you can never be fired.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I don't know what else it would take.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, the thing about it, I don't know. I mean,
I don't know if he's gonna be fired from what
I hear. And he has the backing of the players,
and he has the backing of the funnel.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Nice and then they'll go another The last time the
Knicks won a championship, Moby Dick was a guppy. So
doing the same thing, and we'll see where they are.
They're not winning a championship, not with them behind the bench.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah a d Let's go to the other side of this.
This is what I equated to as a purist. NBA
Finals meeting casual. Hey, I want to peek in, check in. Oh,
Lebron in the finals, the step in the finals? No oh,
but if you love basketball, you got the two best teams,
literally since January first, they've been the best two teams
in basketball. You got one team that's high power offense.
(28:27):
The other team can't score obviously, but their high power defense.
Two great basketball teams. What do you make in a finals?
And do you believe it's gonna be the snooze fest?
And a lot of folks think it'll be.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
I don't know what makes it a snooze fests? Are
people saying this because it's like, you know what's wild
coming it? During the season, everybody is always talking about,
you know what, it's time to pass the torch, right
it's time to move on from Lebron and stats and
KD and Chris Paul, and it's time to actually give
(28:58):
some shine to some of these young stars, you know,
the Ethne Edwards and the Jalen Brunton's and the Teresa
Halliburtons and the stat Gives Alexander's and then when they
actually get to that point, then everybody's mad, everybody's upset.
I all the same what I wanted to see. No,
this is something I want to see.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
I will be honest. I will be one hundred percent honest.
I do not think this is going to be a
very long drawn out series. I don't. I'm not sure
how competitive this series is going to be. That's just
my own personal opinion. The way that I have seen,
that's Oklahoma City Thunder team defense. I have a hard
(29:38):
time seeing the Indiana Pacers get more than one.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, I got it in five at least as of now,
I'm thinking, yeah, me too, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
I got okay and five.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
But the fans are the ones who determine as as
you want to watch people. All those players you mentioned
were all young and all started the Warriors weren't winners
right away. Okay, but they developed. Okay, So everybody who
won didn't win at first. Michael Jordan didn't win at first,
and neither did anybody. So except for Magic Johnson his
(30:08):
first year going to the NBA, he won, but you know,
but but most guys don't. And my point is it
has a lot to do with market size. As much
as people talk about the NBA, Oh, no question, it's regional.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
It's regional.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And and and the Spurs were a great team, won
five chair you played on that team, right, Hey, they
own two of the lowest rated NBA finals, right the
Spurs and then the New Jerseys. That's the New New
Jersey didn't even have like a home base. People in
New York didn't care, and the ratings were bad. Like
it just the Senetonio is.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
A small market. I don't know that. I don't know what.
I'm just saying that there is no alternative.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But I don't believe this is going to be a
ratings bonanza because of the sides of those markets.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Oh, it's definitely not. It is definitely not going to
be a rating vonanza. You have two of the smallest
market in the league. You're like, no, there's there's there
won't be people in l A and New York righting
up to see this You won't be see people in
New York lining up to see this game. All these
bigger markets, you definitely will not. You will get people
(31:15):
from Oklahoma City, oh yeah, people from Norman. You'll get
people from the Midwest. But no. So that's what makes
it a snooze fest, so to speak, is the rating.
Then it won't be a snooze fest by the rating.
Yeah rating, some good basketball.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, I hope it's gonna be some grasswa citiz periods. Right,
It's like it's like I acquate it to hip hop.
We'll talk further about that, but uh, I just think
you need a star and generally you would love to
have seen how the step.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
More MVP I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So then you have him go up against you know,
a Lebron led team or or a Warriors team against
the Pacers something like that, where you get the great balance,
the upcoming versus the old hot guard. And that's usually
kind of how it goes. You get the old guard
and the new guys coming in so.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Guard they're making it. I know you think about it
making it. Oh Gards didn't either, didn't make the playoffs
or got eliminated in the first round. Ye, so that's
not on the young stars that are actually advancing.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yep, a d. We appreciate you as always, man, Thank
you so much. We'll appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Thank you, my man, for sure appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Fellas all right, we got Shekel City on the way,
and uh, something that might be happening to have you
going against the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
We'll explain what it is.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
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Speaker 1 (32:42):
He's Rob, I'm Kelvin on a Magic City, Magic City,
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Speaker 4 (32:50):
Hopefully you're having a great one.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Thanks for hanging out with your boys, and it is
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Speaker 4 (32:57):
How'd you do?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Was a It was a bad can for me for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
On Friday, Oh for three, oh my, oh my, down
to one forty six for the year. But I'm gonna
have a bounce back Monday on this magic City Monday.
You're gonna bounce like Basketball's all right, I'm gonna say,
all right, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Clearly not the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The way you came hot, fired up with six, I
thought I was on the phone with Robert Lee.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I thought you was Spike Lee brother, Rober Lee out
here in the street. No, no, all right, best bet.
I got the Colorado Rockies plus one and a half.
I know they've been terrible to lose all these games.
I'm figuring they can't. They're gonna either win or lose
close down by two runs.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
One of a couple of years ago they actually had
the surprise season.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, Rockies, uh plus one and a half runs tonight,
Cincinnati Reds plus one and a half as well.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
There, okay, here you're in it. And the Angels.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I know, I took the Angels plus one and a
half runs.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
So right now I'm at seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Good seven and a half because the Angels are off
six nothing again the Red Sox in Boston.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
So again there you go.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You see, if it's a home run right here, be
a three run if you stop just saying if you
go right out there.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And remember I'm not telling you who to bet on,
which I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
All right, no doubt, wishing you better than owing three
did on Friday.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I already had three in a while. Yeah you know
you haven't. You haven't, you haven't.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let's get to your tire rec Player of the day.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, Hollow kings Parkley out of the backfield. Parklay slips
two tackles and picks up the first time, chip it
up in the air to the thirty okay of fourteen
for Parkley out of moves.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Right here, makes the first guy miss case, goin, move
out the last second and.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Then what ticket is that?
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
That is Sakwan Barkley hopping over people last year? Remember
one of the best players I've ever seen in my life,
as right CBS on CBS TV. And that's coming from
a guy who watched basically every snap from Barry Sam.
I thought I had seen it all Rob, you and
I talked about it, and when it happened in real time,
that was incredible and some much so by the way.
Tire rec Player of the game that was against the Jacks. Yeah,
(35:11):
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you ever heard of the Madden curse? Rob Well, you
got a new twenty twenty six cover. It's sa Kwan
(35:34):
Barkley and he is jumping over somebody reenacting the play.
They put it out there, they put the video. It
looks really cool, you know. They took it for the
photo jumping over Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Since jan Hurst was the MVP, not him, I'm just saying, no,
the finals MVP that is, yeah, championship, Yeah, Dani, you're right,
which he should also ran for one hundred and eleven
yards and beat the Russian record. No, because you saw
what he did in the Super Bowl, so maybe he
wouldn't have gotten it. He would have gotten They would
have get you know, they would have got it. They'd
have been like every offensive line.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
He would have been heard and it wouldn't have matter anyway,
still would have won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Uh stop it. They would not even got past the ramps.
This is not what we were supposed to be talking about.
We're supposed to be talking about the Madden curse that's.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Still in effect. Rob's still people still kind of believe.
I don't remember the last You can't tell me the
last couple of years. Who was on the cover last year?
Speaker 10 (36:22):
Well, just to put in perspective, the last three running
backs to grace the cover have missed an average of
eight games the following season.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Who was on last year? Dude, they have it. Who
was on the cover last I'm just trying to how
updated it is.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Last year was I'm gonna tell you right now, Christian McCaffrey.
But there you go it, Christian McCaffrey. He was on
the cover last year.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
That's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
On the year before that, Josh Allen twenty twenty three
with John Madden, because it remember he had passed so
and then before before.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Used to be a course, but I just haven't been following. Yeah,
it was. It can tell you the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It got concerned. The first started off as a joke,
like a nah oh. Then they got concerning. Uh so
obviously be not wishing anything on on Saquan, But I
will say, back when I was a mad in head,
rob G, do you agree with me? Michael Vick the
greatest Madden player of all time? Not even fair. You
(37:20):
literally would get mad at somebody. Yeah, you come in,
my man. You can't play with Vig because you would
go hike one two. All right, nobody's doing them out.
It's just run with Carl Lewis or Michael Johnson running speed.
Uh looking like you saying bolt out there in the backfield.
So who else was up there? Best Madden players.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
Well, not in Madden, but Bo Jackson and techmo ball.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
That's another one that's just unfair. They ever hear the
guy admitted like, yeah, I made him a little extra special.
Who made the game? He's like, yeah, I made him express.
I ain't gonna lie the guy. They did the same
thing with NBA jam uh Randy Moss was nuts too.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah, you know what was.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Really good and Maddams remember this when they first installed
the QB vision where you could only complete a pass
if it was the I hated it, but yes, so
if you had a guy who was really terrible, like
any Raiders quarterback. His vision was like three yards wide,
so you had to lock it in immediately. When you
used the colt in Payton Manning, you could actually see
the whole field. It was unreal and it was just
a game changing.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Let me tell you the difference between him and any
Lion's quarterback at that moment, because I would try to
be with the whole team and it would be a
slice of pizza, that's all I got.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
I guess we're running the ball on third and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I fell off of Mann. They play a lot
of Madden at the barber shop. No, they don't get
the mad now. They don't have games going on at
up in there, and you know how people just hang.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Out all that. No, no, no, no, we don't got to
talk about Dion Sanders.
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Speaker 3 (01:40):
All right, all right, Magic City Monday. Let's welcome in,
my sir co host, mister Bruh, what's happening?
Speaker 4 (01:50):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
How did you enjoy your Yankee Dodger weekend?
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I was good. It's good. Great to be out the
ballpark of good weather.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Sending me great pictures hanging out with all time legend.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
Reggie Jackson with the MLB bro.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Come on, that was That was a great picture right there,
because you need to know that was great.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah, Reggie's looks great.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Nine years old, not fat, not out of shape, like healthy.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
It looks healthy. You saw you can ask seventy eight,
you know, seventy nine. I'm sorry, seventy nine looks good.
It looks like if they put it down a little
bit rob about sixty two miles per hour, he might
be able to hit something.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
And I'm gonna tell you that that dude was a player,
like let's not you know what I mean, Like you
talk about great players, all time great players. If you
can't look at that guy and go when you got
a nickname, mister October, they don't just give that to anybody.
Speaker 4 (02:42):
And we know what that would mean to you know
what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
If I'm calling you that that means you must stay
in the postseason first off, and you must do work
in the postseason.
Speaker 5 (02:52):
I mean you don't get that off. Oh he had
a game, No, no, no, mister October. That was pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I had a great time Friday night of going like
we talked about Friday Night Man, a bunch of you know,
obviously home runs and the series let up to we'll
talk a little bit about it. LA good games over
the weekend, next weekend pool Day, Saturday pool Day.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
With the fan, the whole neighborhood.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
We had a neighborhood appreciation day, so everybody, it was
nice weekend man.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
All yours was good too, No doubt.
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(03:41):
all dolled up.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
All I'm gonna say, Mary, I'm not even gonna be
in your head today. All I'm gonna say, is Roger
these two and I'm pointing, make it real obvious when
they got somebody in there, like please, she comes up
here here, I didn't know, No, no, robb G, robb
g all, I know.
Speaker 4 (04:03):
Stop.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Miss Mary Matt came in like she was on to
hit the runway. And then Rob Parker came in out
the blue. Hey, I'm getting rid of red meat. I'm
getting rid of this. I'm not doing this. I want
to lose twenty five more pounds and I'm gonna do this.
It's all I'm gonna say. Look, y'all make it obviously,
y'all got somebody I know.
Speaker 4 (04:20):
No, No, let's get the show started. I'm just saying,
Rob G feels me, and let's get the show started.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Let's do that, all right, Okay, So obviously the finals
are set. We know it's the Pacers and the Thunder.
We'll get into that. The finals doesn't start till Thursday.
But there's some stuff we need to you know, hash
out and talk about of the fallout because the last series,
of course, was the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (04:45):
And the Knicks and Rob G.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
I don't think I don't know we didn't talk about this,
but do we have the sound or no from Jalen
Brunton when they were asking him about he got yeah,
like is that a real question? It was kind of like,
am I right? Rob g that fair?
Speaker 6 (05:00):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:01):
It was like, is that a real right? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:04):
No, he's gonna talk to me now. He didn't know
what I was gonna be saying. Okay, he didn't know.
But my point is this, And I know if you're
Nick fans, you know they were ready in the streets
and they were naming streets after players and all that.
But if you're a New York Knick fan and you
don't think what happened this season was a failure, then
you have no idea what's going on. The twenty twenty
(05:28):
four to twenty five season was a big failure for
the New York Knicks. You went out, you got Karl
Anthony Towns, you made a big trade Miquel Bridges, you
gave a five first round picks, right.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
You did all these things.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
And the idea that last year went the second round
lost right in seven games to the Patriots. You wanted
to be better, you thought, blah blah blah. You made
all those moves.
Speaker 4 (05:54):
Not only that.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You beat the defending champs, and you can talk about,
you know, all the Celtics got Tatum, got hurt. No, no, no,
they won the first two games in Boston, being down
by twenty.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Once you do that, you tear up the script.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So all the people didn't think the Knicks were gonna
go because they couldn't beat the Celtics because of all
what happened in regular seasons. That changed, and so should
have the expectations of this basketball team, which was that
they were gonna finally get to the championship for the
first time in twenty five years, right since nineteen ninety nine.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Prince sang about it. The Knicks were.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
About it back then, and now this year they have
the Celtics beating up. The only team in their way
is the Indiana Pacers, a team that nobody talked about
all year, a team that no one expected to beat
the Cavaliers, and a team you had down by fourteen
(06:58):
with two thirty eight to go, down by nine with
fifty seconds to go. You win Game one at Madison
Square Garden and you're.
Speaker 4 (07:08):
Going to the finals.
Speaker 3 (07:09):
Okay, you would have had a chance to go to
the finals right there, and guess what they didn't do
It they choked that down, lost Game two at home,
and basically the series was over. I told you after
they lost Game one they weren't going to the finals.
You don't recover from that. They forced a Game six
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and guess what, their stars don't show up in Game
six at Indiana have awful shooting nights.
Speaker 4 (07:39):
Ray Charles could see that. I mean, like just awful.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
Don't celebrate the New York Knicks for what they did
in the excitement they gave the city, had people in
the streets, had rats carrying pizza all over town, and celebration.
None of it, added Kelvin, none of it. They failed
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this season. The Knicks should be in the NBA Finals,
not the Indiana Pacers. And for that reason, if I'm
the Knicks, I gotta look at TIBs and honestly make
a change.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
And if you ask me who I got the who.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
His name is Michael Malone, who coached the Denver Nuggets
to a soup to an NBA Finals championship.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
All right, let me say this, and I never in
my life thought I would be sitting up here defending
the Knicks.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
What in the world has the world come to?
Speaker 1 (08:48):
All Right, Rob Now this is where I gotta bring
you back down to reality a little bit. None of
us went into this Eastern Conference playoffs thinking the Knicks
really had a shot. In fact, we came on all
of us talking about how they underachieved and they were
one of the worst three seeds or are like, oh,
nobody believes it is they don't even beat the good teams.
And not only did they come in and beat solid
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teams and the Pistons and upcomings team, they beat the
reigning champs, and then they beat the Pacers, who, by
the way, were thirty four and fourteen since January first.
The only team better than them are in the finals
the Oklahoma City Thunder. So the Pacers have actually been
it's our fault for ignoring them as being the second
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best team in the NBA since the beginning of twenty
twenty five. So the Knicks come in, they beat a
young Pistons team who has a really good team, they
beat the rainning champs, and they lose admirably in six
to the Pacers. Now, also, when you look at what
they've done for an organization that is underachieved for twenty
five thirty years, to me, they have something to hang
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their hat on. They have officially when thousand percent, unequivocally
found their guy, and we know how hard that is
in sports. Jalen Brunton, is he perfect, No, but he's
a heck of a player, one of the best clutch
players in the league, one cutch player of the year.
And then you have a guy in kar Anthony Towns
who you say, okay, the trade he played, Well, there's
some things we can work on, and that's a conversation
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for another day. But to me, the next overachieved. We
literally kept going, Okay, this is about it. Now they'd
had their fun, Okay, there's no all right, well theirth's
gonna come back again. Okay, well, I mean not the
PACER's gonna And they got six out of this. And
so to me, I'm looking at the Knicks and saying,
they played hard. You never ever ever felt like they quit.
They literally competed all in all the games. And I
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even gotta give teams who I never want to give
credit to, because all he does is look like another
version of Darvin Ham with his hands in his pockets.
Instead is are hands voted. But we talked about and
I said, man, he's got to start playing that bench
a little bit. He's got to get there's no way
they can sustain those legs. Those legs are gonna go
out on them, and they sustained throughout the season. Michel Bridges,
who is the iron man, calling them out, Hey, man,
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gotta we gotta get some breaks. We're tired. They fall
through that as a team. They get in the postseason,
guys are playing too much.
Speaker 4 (11:03):
Again.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
He starts to play the bitch, he plays right, he
plays Sammy, he plays, goes to Mitchell Robinson more, he
plays the McBride. He starts to play some guys. And
I gotta give him credit that he at least was
trying to do something. So this was an overachievement. It
to me, they have some things that if I were
the general manager, absolutely we're addressing.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
There's some things to fix.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
But man, there's no way if I'd have told you
starting in the beginning of the season the Knicks would
be a game and a half away from being in
the finals, did you would think that they underachieved?
Speaker 3 (11:36):
Now, I don't even know how you could even think
about them underachieving when they beat the defending champs that
nobody expect him to beat and they're up by fourteen
against the Pacers at home. It's one thing if they
got molly wopped and got swept by the Pacers and
they were just better, but they coughed up an historic choke.
Speaker 4 (11:57):
If you can't get.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
Fired off historic choke, you can never get fired. I'm
dead serious. Like the idea that you think they underachieved
blowing and not only did they do that, you thought
they bounced back in game two, right, because all right,
I was just one game, one game. They they not
only did that, they lost game two at home to
the Pacers, and and so you're in a two to
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zero hole, which you're not going to bounce back. There's
no way you can look at that and call that
an over.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
So how did I How am I not firing Missoula
Missoula because they won a championship, but then.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
They need a championship team.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
No, No, do not lose two games from the twenty
because they won one. It does I'm saying based off
that they lost one, They and he literally just got
them further than any any team they got into twenty
five years. And again I'm not sitting there reacting like
he's Phil Jackson. But if my star player comes out
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and it gives him a major endorsement. My player I
am absolutely tied to in Jalen Brupton. He ain't going nowhere,
and he is my guy, and he who sings a
ringing endorsement.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
The guy's got me further. Now.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
I'm in the playoffs two years in a row, which
does not happen to the Knicks all the time. Two
years in a row, and not only two years in
a row, I improve, I get further than I did the
next year. I don't see why they're gonna end up
firing that guy easy because they did it before. Can
I give you an example?
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Yes, Can I give you Rick Carlile and the Detroit Pistons.
Can I give you an example? And I want you
to listen to this example. The Pistons had gotten further
than they had ever gone with Rick Carlile. And guess
what they looked and said, there's Larry Brown.
Speaker 4 (13:37):
And at that time, Larry had never won a championship
in the NBA.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
But he was a better coach at that time than
Rick Carlile.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
If you're the Knicks and Timbs, He's never been.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Able to go further with any team he's been Mike Malone.
Michael Malone is available. Mike Malone is not a question
mark whether you can get a team to where you
need to go.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
He's available.
Speaker 3 (14:00):
Teams you upgrade when you have a chance to upgrade.
And that's the example I'm gonna give you because I
have seen it before. Smart teams go. Thank you, Tibbs,
you got it to a certain point. keV is his difference.
First of all, there's a massive different. Rick Carlile was
just starting to coach facts or none fact.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
But he's still want to go facts or no facts. Now,
he was a new coach that they thought, all right, cool,
that was cute.
Speaker 4 (14:29):
Get out of here.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Here comes this forty five fifty year veteran and uh
and your boy Brown, Larry Brown. So this is not
the same where Timms is a veteran quarter coach who
has been there, who is veteran.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
Players love and adore him. I'm not stamping him.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
I'm just saying, if Jalen Brunson and your front off
has already come out and say he's their guy, he's
gonna be their guy.
Speaker 4 (14:49):
And again the team is overachieved.
Speaker 1 (14:51):
None of us thought they would do this in the
beginning of this playoffs and they lost to the Pacers,
who have the second best record since the turn.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
It changes, that changes once you beat Celtics. Come on, man,
you don't go backwards once you've already.
Speaker 4 (15:04):
They were the better team than the Celtics. Said, no, no,
they literally weren't.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
They were the best teams, the only team better than
the January Who had Who had a higher seed in
the playoffs? I just said, I don't care about that.
Who had a higher seed doesn't matter? Does January fourth?
Speaker 3 (15:20):
The favorite in that series wasn't the Knicks or the Pacers.
The Pacers were playing, They were not the favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:28):
The Pacers the only team that played better than there's
the two teams in the Whigs.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Who was the higher seed and who was the favorites?
I'm asking you. The Celtics underachieved. We've all talked about that.
Speaker 3 (15:41):
We're talking about who I'm talking about with the Knicks
and the Pacers.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
Two questions.
Speaker 1 (15:47):
So higher seeds, No, the Knicks. I'm talking about about
the Celtics, the Knicks, okay, And who was the favorite
in that series?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Was the Knicks? Yes? It was all right.
Speaker 1 (15:58):
So if you hold on, if you're on adamant, Why
did you pick the Pacers to win?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Because I still didn't believe in TIBs and that dire's
your point. So my point is that I don't believe
in tailors. I don't believe in TIBs. I don't care
if they call you mister Tibbs. I want you, mister
out Sidney Poitier. That's great, right, great right now? Eight
seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
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Speaker 4 (16:24):
I'm as passionate as it gets with this.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
You got me over here acting like I like Tims
like I don't even like Tims like that.
Speaker 4 (16:29):
But they overachieved, Rob, No, they're underachieved.
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Should the Knicks fire head coach Tom Thibodeau.
Speaker 4 (16:36):
We'll continue that conversation next with you. It is The
Odd Couple.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
I need some water, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington right here
on Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
Stick and stay unless you really thought the Knicks were
gonna be beat five Mason, though.
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You thought they were right where you thought they'd be
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Speaker 4 (17:32):
Who we got? Let's start with Jay in Georgia. You're
in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up? Jay?
Speaker 7 (17:39):
Hey? We're going on.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
Guys. How y'all doing great? Hey? Rob?
Speaker 7 (17:44):
I agree with you, Camp. I think you were being
a little too nice to the need because Worth they
beat the steps intoo are the defeating champ and then
once Cleveland had all those players hurt and they got
knocked dogs basically had no path the fight.
Speaker 6 (18:01):
Talk about it.
Speaker 7 (18:02):
We can talk about the patients all you want, man,
Come on, I mean that Hella bird, he's still a
little overrated. They're just me. But what's the trade for
car after the town and you give a final piece
of bridges, you're basically saying in spite of a butt.
So that's my take over. There can out for you
right quick?
Speaker 4 (18:20):
What's that? Real quick? Jay?
Speaker 7 (18:21):
D Okay? So I don't I don't get the call
in all the time, but I do listen to the
podcast and y'all was talking about Chris and the hair
dye last week, Man tailor, you almost fill out in
my chair.
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Man, which one? Well, I could? What do you say? What?
Speaker 8 (18:39):
What?
Speaker 2 (18:39):
What?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
What got you?
Speaker 6 (18:40):
We are talking?
Speaker 7 (18:42):
We all talking about Chris and he's leaving his hair dye.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Oh yeah, about Christmas and his hair dye?
Speaker 4 (18:50):
Yeah glow yeah yeah. I mean, uh situations Derek and Houston.
You're on the couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up Derek?
Speaker 8 (19:00):
Hey?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
What's up? Guys? How y'all doing?
Speaker 8 (19:02):
Hey? You just want to touch on the Tom Thibodaux situation.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
Rob you.
Speaker 8 (19:07):
I think he had a good point with regard that
it may be time for him to be out. I
want him to stay in. But I'm gonna use a
story from McDonald's theory how you can hit a glass ceiling.
Speaker 4 (19:17):
You know.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
McDonald's started out with trying to be a mom and
pop shot and at a certain point they didn't want
to franchise and they end up going making a lot
of money, but they didn't make nothing with until great
Crop bust them through that glass ceiling. So with Tom Tibbadeau,
they may have they may have reached their point. I'd
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like to see him stay, but they also need a
coach that's going to be able to coach Cat up
as well, because that dude makes a lot of mistakes,
a lot of dumb files, and he's not getting all
the aggression that you need out of here each and
every game.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
He ain't never did it about eight nine years in
the league.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
I hear you. I agree with you on what he
needs to do, but he ain't it yet. How about
the will and was content? You're on the couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
What's up? Well, what's going on?
Speaker 9 (20:04):
Rob? What's going on?
Speaker 6 (20:05):
Calvin?
Speaker 9 (20:06):
And are really good man and excited man? You know
for the season to end. Guys that played well from
last year to this year or so, it's been great,
you know, to really see but Rob, to your point, Uh,
this is gonna be the telling factor of where James
Dolan is in his ownership. I know he divests himself
of the Governor's Board and all that, but that wasn't
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to like make the Knicks better. It was because of,
you know, his issue that he had with Adam Silver.
So it becomes one of these things where you know,
between him and mister Rose there, they're gonna have to
find a way. I don't think the pathway is really
to Addi Giannis, because I think they have they have
a championship team, they beat, they beat Boston, you know,
who are perennially getting deep in the playoffs. So that's
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you know that that's a credit to those players. But
Mitchell Robinson's got to take elite man, and Kat has
to find some different ways, some different playing level to
really maximize on what he's where he's at. But thanks
for taking a call, guys.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
No problem, Yep, We're appreciated.
Speaker 6 (21:06):
Man.
Speaker 4 (21:06):
Sorry we couldn't get to more you. Well, that's allry.
We got last call the end of the show.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
If you want to get in all right, got Antonio
Daniels on the way right now, Steve, the saga was trending.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Hey, Steve, be sure to catch live editions of The
Odd Couple with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at
seven pm Eastern, four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio
and the iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
App Steve Thank You So Much, ID cover Rob Parker,
Kevin Washington, Magic City Monday, joined now by our Man,
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analysts a d every days. Oh What's up?
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Ad?
Speaker 6 (21:45):
What's up? Man? First? First and foremost, I have to congratulate, hold.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
On, hold on, hold on, do not don't do it.
Don't do it.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
Don't congratulate me because you can't do it. Instead, we
wait for in a formal announcement, thank you though.
Speaker 6 (21:58):
Hey, d oh, okay, all right, I won't well, I
won't do it.
Speaker 4 (22:01):
Thank you do them announcements.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
In other words, how you doing?
Speaker 1 (22:09):
No?
Speaker 4 (22:09):
I appreciate you. Hey, let's go. Hear me and Kelvin
are having a big argument.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
I'm saying the Knicks, we're supposed to go to the
finals after they beat the Celtics.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
They were number one seed. They blew a fourteen point
lead with Game one.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Whatever I had a clear path, Cleveland got knocked off.
Here it is, and I'm saying that if I could
upgrade at the coaching position, I would get rid of
TIBs and hire Michael Malone tomorrow. Because they underachieved. They
were supposed to go to the final.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Just Rob listen, let's let's keep it Hone.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
You ain't picked no pat to go to the finals?
Did you? Did you pick the FI I'm asking you.
Did you pick the Pacers?
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Did you pick the Knicks the conference?
Speaker 4 (23:00):
I didn't know. I did not. I didn't believe it.
Speaker 6 (23:03):
No, but on no, hold on, rum, we're not talking
about the Pacers, right, We're talking about the Knicks. And
if we're not talking about the Pacers, we're talking about
the Knicks. And this is what I say. No, I
haven't picked the Pacers to go to the finals, but
we're not talking about them. We're talking about the Knicks.
The Knicks actually overachieved because if you think of where
they were last year, right, Remember they got eliminated second
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round last year by the same exact team. This year
they got eliminated in the Eastern Conference finals. I don't
think this is attempt situation. I think it's the way
the roster's constructed. There are some things that they need
to change. I still think see this is the peris
is what always happens when the team gets eliminated, everybody
kind of goes in on that team. This team did
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not underachieve, Yes they did not.
Speaker 3 (23:49):
They beat the Celtics right by coming back from two
twenty point games on the road. Okay, so they knock
off the Celtics. They have the Pacers down in game
one by fourteen, we're two thirty to go. A thousand
games in that same scenario been played and no one
had ever lost the game until the next game.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Hold on.
Speaker 6 (24:11):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Then they come back to.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Game two to make it an equalizer and guess what
they do. They lose and Tibbs doesn't play the bench. Okay,
and those guys peter out at the end. But are
you kiddings time to move war from him?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
If you're telling me, if you're telling me that you
have an issue with Bibbs not playing his bench, join
the club. So do I. I'm a guy that came
up the bitch thirteen years in this league.
Speaker 4 (24:37):
There you go. You know what it means.
Speaker 6 (24:39):
I know what that means to not be trusted and
to have to be played out of necessity as opposed
to being played out of trust. But here's the thing,
that's who Thibs has always been. And if you're telling
me that you want to upgrade because you want this
team to get deeper, and because when you're playing against
a team like the Indiana Pacers, it becomes a war Patrician.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
No, and Rick Calau out coached them. Rick carl is
a way better coaching. Yeah, but coaching does count. Okay,
coaching does count. And guess who's sitting out there, Michael Malone,
who coached the Nuggets to a championship and I made
it to this Antonio.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
The Detroit Pistons.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
Had a young Rick Carla who had gotten the Pistons
to the second round when they hadn't done anything in years,
and Larry Brown was available, who had never won a championship.
Speaker 4 (25:32):
And you know what they did.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
They upgraded and they won the next year with Larry Brown.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
But Rob they also upgraded the roster by Wallace.
Speaker 3 (25:42):
Yeah, but when Larry Brown was a big part of
it because he made Chaunty better, a better player.
Speaker 9 (25:48):
I was.
Speaker 4 (25:48):
I was that covered that team.
Speaker 6 (25:51):
I get it. No, questions, No question about it. But
I'll go back to what we talked about the Knicks
for two and a half hour today, have our three
hour show about what can they do to upgrade? What
can they do to improve? What can they do to
get better? It is not simply Everything is not simply
a coaching issue. Sometimes it's roster constructions, how the team
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is constructed. There are certain areas that team needs to
get better in. And I don't know if that falls
on fans. I don't know if that falls on fins
or not. But to say that it's it's simply a
tense conversation and once you upgrade there, everything will fall
in place. I still you keep everything status quo.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
I didn't say that it is. I didn't say that.
I didn't. I didn't say that you.
Speaker 6 (26:35):
Do that does not put you past the Indiana Pacers.
I just seem that eliminated on back to back years.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
I just don't think that you're going to get there.
Sometimes coaches could get to it to a certain level
and then other coaches could take you over the top.
Speaker 4 (26:49):
That That's where i'mting.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
I agree with that, agree with that, adr guests Antonio Daniels,
I do I just thought they overachieved. None of us
thought that they were. We all said they were underachieving things.
Speaker 3 (26:58):
Everybody had them going to the finals, red nick street
names named after the players win it.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
No they didn't.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
I'm talking about after they beat the Celtics, everybody and their.
Speaker 4 (27:08):
Uncle had them going.
Speaker 6 (27:09):
Come on, man, No, that's not that's not how his
works roped, That's not how his works.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Yes, it is. You change your expectations when things happened.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
So you after they beat the Celtic, you go, oh,
but they're still not going to get to the finals.
Speaker 4 (27:21):
Is that what you said?
Speaker 6 (27:23):
Man, this is the same team you didn't say that
beat him last year?
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Yeah, Game seven and they were a little banged up
at Madison Square. Go. I'm not gonna make excuses. The
Pacers did win in a Game seven. I've never seen
if Antonio. If you can't get fired after blowing a
fourteen point lead with two minutes and thirty seconds to go,
you can never be fired.
Speaker 4 (27:44):
I don't know what else it would take.
Speaker 6 (27:46):
Well, the thing about it, I don't know. I mean,
I don't know if he's gonna be fired from what
I hear. And he has the backing of the players,
and he has the backing of the funnel.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
Nice and then they'll go another The last time the
Knicks won a championship, Moby Dick was a guppy. So
doing the same thing, and we'll see where they are.
They're not winning a championship, not with them behind the bench.
Speaker 1 (28:05):
Yeah a d Let's go to the other side of this.
This is what I equated to as a purist. NBA
Finals meeting casual. Hey, I want to peek in, check in. Oh,
Lebron in the finals, the step in the finals? No oh,
but if you love basketball, you got the two best teams,
literally since January first, they've been the best two teams
in basketball. You got one team that's high power offense.
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The other team can't score obviously, but their high power defense.
Two great basketball teams. What do you make in a finals?
And do you believe it's gonna be the snooze fest?
And a lot of folks think it'll be.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
I don't know what makes it a snooze fests? Are
people saying this because it's like, you know what's wild
coming it? During the season, everybody is always talking about,
you know what, it's time to pass the torch, right
it's time to move on from Lebron and stats and
KD and Chris Paul, and it's time to actually give
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some shine to some of these young stars, you know,
the Ethne Edwards and the Jalen Brunton's and the Teresa
Halliburtons and the stat Gives Alexander's and then when they
actually get to that point, then everybody's mad, everybody's upset.
I all the same what I wanted to see. No,
this is something I want to see.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (29:17):
I will be honest. I will be one hundred percent honest.
I do not think this is going to be a
very long drawn out series. I don't. I'm not sure
how competitive this series is going to be. That's just
my own personal opinion. The way that I have seen,
that's Oklahoma City Thunder team defense. I have a hard
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time seeing the Indiana Pacers get more than one.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah, I got it in five at least as of now,
I'm thinking, yeah, me too, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (29:45):
I got okay and five.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
But the fans are the ones who determine as as
you want to watch people. All those players you mentioned
were all young and all started the Warriors weren't winners
right away. Okay, but they developed. Okay, So everybody who
won didn't win at first. Michael Jordan didn't win at first,
and neither did anybody. So except for Magic Johnson his
(30:08):
first year going to the NBA, he won, but you know,
but but most guys don't. And my point is it
has a lot to do with market size. As much
as people talk about the NBA, Oh, no question, it's regional.
Speaker 4 (30:22):
It's regional.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
And and and the Spurs were a great team, won
five chair you played on that team, right, Hey, they
own two of the lowest rated NBA finals, right the
Spurs and then the New Jerseys. That's the New New
Jersey didn't even have like a home base. People in
New York didn't care, and the ratings were bad. Like
it just the Senetonio is.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
A small market. I don't know that. I don't know what.
I'm just saying that there is no alternative.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
But I don't believe this is going to be a
ratings bonanza because of the sides of those markets.
Speaker 6 (30:53):
Oh, it's definitely not. It is definitely not going to
be a rating vonanza. You have two of the smallest
market in the league. You're like, no, there's there's there
won't be people in l A and New York righting
up to see this You won't be see people in
New York lining up to see this game. All these
bigger markets, you definitely will not. You will get people
(31:15):
from Oklahoma City, oh yeah, people from Norman. You'll get
people from the Midwest. But no. So that's what makes
it a snooze fest, so to speak, is the rating.
Then it won't be a snooze fest by the rating.
Yeah rating, some good basketball.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
Yeah, I hope it's gonna be some grasswa citiz periods. Right,
It's like it's like I acquate it to hip hop.
We'll talk further about that, but uh, I just think
you need a star and generally you would love to
have seen how the step.
Speaker 4 (31:44):
More MVP I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
So then you have him go up against you know,
a Lebron led team or or a Warriors team against
the Pacers something like that, where you get the great balance,
the upcoming versus the old hot guard. And that's usually
kind of how it goes. You get the old guard
and the new guys coming in so.
Speaker 6 (31:59):
Guard they're making it. I know you think about it
making it. Oh Gards didn't either, didn't make the playoffs
or got eliminated in the first round. Ye, so that's
not on the young stars that are actually advancing.
Speaker 4 (32:11):
Yep, a d. We appreciate you as always, man, Thank
you so much. We'll appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
Thank you, my man, for sure appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Fellas all right, we got Shekel City on the way,
and uh, something that might be happening to have you
going against the Eagles.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
We'll explain what it is.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
It's the OCAP of Rock Parker Kevin Washington Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (32:29):
Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
with Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington weekdays at seven pm
Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the
iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 4 (32:40):
Fox Sports Radio. It is the Couple.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
He's Rob, I'm Kelvin on a Magic City, Magic City,
Ma Hyundai, Mary Mack on the ones and two's on
this Monday.
Speaker 4 (32:50):
Hopefully you're having a great one.
Speaker 1 (32:52):
Thanks for hanging out with your boys, and it is
time now for Shekel City.
Speaker 4 (32:57):
How'd you do?
Speaker 3 (32:58):
It?
Speaker 4 (32:58):
Was a It was a bad can for me for sure.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
On Friday, Oh for three, oh my, oh my, down
to one forty six for the year. But I'm gonna
have a bounce back Monday on this magic City Monday.
You're gonna bounce like Basketball's all right, I'm gonna say,
all right, okay.
Speaker 4 (33:16):
Clearly not the Knicks.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
The way you came hot, fired up with six, I
thought I was on the phone with Robert Lee.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I thought you was Spike Lee brother, Rober Lee out
here in the street. No, no, all right, best bet.
I got the Colorado Rockies plus one and a half.
I know they've been terrible to lose all these games.
I'm figuring they can't. They're gonna either win or lose
close down by two runs.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
One of a couple of years ago they actually had
the surprise season.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Yeah, Rockies, uh plus one and a half runs tonight,
Cincinnati Reds plus one and a half as well.
Speaker 4 (33:47):
There, okay, here you're in it. And the Angels.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
I know, I took the Angels plus one and a
half runs.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
So right now I'm at seven and a half.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
Good seven and a half because the Angels are off
six nothing again the Red Sox in Boston.
Speaker 4 (34:01):
So again there you go.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
You see, if it's a home run right here, be
a three run if you stop just saying if you
go right out there.
Speaker 3 (34:09):
And remember I'm not telling you who to bet on,
which I'm telling you who I bet on.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
All right, no doubt, wishing you better than owing three
did on Friday.
Speaker 4 (34:16):
I already had three in a while. Yeah you know
you haven't. You haven't, you haven't.
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Let's get to your tire rec Player of the day.
Speaker 4 (34:26):
Yeah, Hollow kings Parkley out of the backfield. Parklay slips
two tackles and picks up the first time, chip it
up in the air to the thirty okay of fourteen
for Parkley out of moves.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Right here, makes the first guy miss case, goin, move
out the last second and.
Speaker 4 (34:42):
Then what ticket is that?
Speaker 6 (34:46):
Bro?
Speaker 1 (34:49):
That is Sakwan Barkley hopping over people last year? Remember
one of the best players I've ever seen in my life,
as right CBS on CBS TV. And that's coming from
a guy who watched basically every snap from Barry Sam.
I thought I had seen it all Rob, you and
I talked about it, and when it happened in real time,
that was incredible and some much so by the way.
Tire rec Player of the game that was against the Jacks. Yeah,
(35:11):
it sounded like the Jacks of course there has been.
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you ever heard of the Madden curse? Rob Well, you
got a new twenty twenty six cover. It's sa Kwan
(35:34):
Barkley and he is jumping over somebody reenacting the play.
They put it out there, they put the video. It
looks really cool, you know. They took it for the
photo jumping over Jalen Hurts.
Speaker 5 (35:43):
Since jan Hurst was the MVP, not him, I'm just saying, no,
the finals MVP that is, yeah, championship, Yeah, Dani, you're right,
which he should also ran for one hundred and eleven
yards and beat the Russian record. No, because you saw
what he did in the Super Bowl, so maybe he
wouldn't have gotten it. He would have gotten They would
have get you know, they would have got it. They'd
have been like every offensive line.
Speaker 4 (36:01):
He would have been heard and it wouldn't have matter anyway,
still would have won a Super Bowl.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Uh stop it. They would not even got past the ramps.
This is not what we were supposed to be talking about.
We're supposed to be talking about the Madden curse that's.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Still in effect. Rob's still people still kind of believe.
I don't remember the last You can't tell me the
last couple of years. Who was on the cover last year?
Speaker 10 (36:22):
Well, just to put in perspective, the last three running
backs to grace the cover have missed an average of
eight games the following season.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Who was on last year? Dude, they have it. Who
was on the cover last I'm just trying to how
updated it is.
Speaker 1 (36:35):
Last year was I'm gonna tell you right now, Christian McCaffrey.
But there you go it, Christian McCaffrey. He was on
the cover last year.
Speaker 4 (36:44):
That's what I'm looking at.
Speaker 1 (36:45):
On the year before that, Josh Allen twenty twenty three
with John Madden, because it remember he had passed so
and then before before.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
Used to be a course, but I just haven't been following. Yeah,
it was. It can tell you the last couple of years.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
It got concerned. The first started off as a joke,
like a nah oh. Then they got concerning. Uh so
obviously be not wishing anything on on Saquan, But I
will say, back when I was a mad in head,
rob G, do you agree with me? Michael Vick the
greatest Madden player of all time? Not even fair. You
(37:20):
literally would get mad at somebody. Yeah, you come in,
my man. You can't play with Vig because you would
go hike one two. All right, nobody's doing them out.
It's just run with Carl Lewis or Michael Johnson running speed.
Uh looking like you saying bolt out there in the backfield.
So who else was up there? Best Madden players.
Speaker 10 (37:37):
Well, not in Madden, but Bo Jackson and techmo ball.
Speaker 1 (37:40):
That's another one that's just unfair. They ever hear the
guy admitted like, yeah, I made him a little extra special.
Who made the game? He's like, yeah, I made him express.
I ain't gonna lie the guy. They did the same
thing with NBA jam uh Randy Moss was nuts too.
Speaker 4 (37:51):
Yeah, you know what was.
Speaker 10 (37:52):
Really good and Maddams remember this when they first installed
the QB vision where you could only complete a pass
if it was the I hated it, but yes, so
if you had a guy who was really terrible, like
any Raiders quarterback. His vision was like three yards wide,
so you had to lock it in immediately. When you
used the colt in Payton Manning, you could actually see
the whole field. It was unreal and it was just
a game changing.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
Let me tell you the difference between him and any
Lion's quarterback at that moment, because I would try to
be with the whole team and it would be a
slice of pizza, that's all I got.
Speaker 10 (38:20):
I guess we're running the ball on third and fifteen.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Yeah, I fell off of Mann. They play a lot
of Madden at the barber shop. No, they don't get
the mad now. They don't have games going on at
up in there, and you know how people just hang.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
Out all that. No, no, no, no, we don't got to
talk about Dion Sanders.
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