June 17, 2025 • 39 mins
Rob and Kelvin debate whether or not Tyrese Haliburton is being selfish by insisting on playing through injury during these NBA Finals, argue over Shohei Ohtani’s GOAT candidacy, and take a trip out to Shekel City for Rob’s nightly bets. Plus, former NFL offensive lineman and FOX Sports Radio Weekend host Ephraim Salaam swings by to discuss the Haliburton injury, how the Pittsburgh Steelers should handle TJ Watt’s contract holdout, and much more!
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He is Calvin Washington. Can on my side of your
side this week?
Speaker 1 (02:11):
What you think with trash Talking Tuesday, Ken, Ken, he's
gonna be on your side?
Speaker 3 (02:14):
All right.
Speaker 1 (02:15):
I think he's coming for me this week. I think
he went for you. I think it's I think he's
on me.
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Colvin.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I can't believe you.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
I can't believe you would. I think it's coming a
little bit later.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
I already got my trash Talking Tuesday locked in and
it just happened five minutes ago. What I'm gonna get it.
You want me to trash talk you now, trash talking trash?
Give me a little, a little I know you know. No,
you gave me a taste more than I asked for it.
I don't know me want to say he got a taste.
I didn't mean to say that in their face. Big
time scratch. Make sure you scratched that, Alex. I'm sitting
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here minding my show.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Got my show, prepp, I got my news, I got
my him ready to rocking room. I run down and
you come in, hands forward? And why were you passed
down at Toene's they.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Fell No, Alex, rob g You know I'm not trying
to sound he's taking this young girlfriend stuff too far.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Alex.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He came in here looking like he was trying to
show off his new little look at my tool underwear.
I'm out here like he was a little ribbed like
the rapper.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
No, I'm just you know. And weight loss, I don't
know if you know this. When you lose weight, the
first thing to go is your backside. Your backside goes first.
Your gut is the last thing to go. So you
lose weight all over your body. But it is you're
behind that first loses the weight. I don't know why
that is, but it is. And I have a belt
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on and my pants literally just slipped off. A pointless
belt belt just on for no reason. And of course Iowa.
Sam was there to be the pants. Yeah, yeah, he's
the pants. Well, he's the police about everything right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Away. Drinks, yes, yes, throwing away drinks, going away food. Yesterday,
I was in here. I was in here really early,
just sitting here. Well, you slipt that here.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
I didn't even see you, saying, first of all, you're
not supposed to seeing me, say right, what do you?
Speaker 3 (04:04):
What do you mean? Hey, just turned the air down
to exactly seventy one point eight.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
It's supposed to be the Farenheit of the Celsius Acts of.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
The All right, we already know.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
All right, Hey, hey, let's go. We got a great show,
a lot of stuff to talk about. Let's welcome in
the odd couple crew who we got because you wouldn't
be able to do this fine radio program without him.
Rob g is our producer, Alex is our engineer, Steve
the segerst anchor desk.
Speaker 7 (04:27):
And never heard of him, heard of them?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's what you give a jump in the gun. I've
heard of him. You have heard of them?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Sager is in uh Elijah Stead today, never heard of
take it a few days off.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So all good.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So let's get started here, and we know what happened
in Game five, right, it didn't cover, which was bad too.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They had they I thought they were about to they
go down and get a lift. He got stripped on
the way up and.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Unbelievabed that would have That would a lot of you know,
you know, people kick their TV sets in, but that's like,
that's what they that's why they call it gambling. But anyway,
Tyrese Haliburton tried to play through an injury and had
no field goals.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
What do you have?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Four?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Was it four points or six points?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Four points minus thirteen out there of the plus minus.
And I just got one message to Tyrese Haliburton and
to all players who decide to do what he did yesterday.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Don't play if you're hurt.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I know, I know you want to be out there
for your teammates to try to help, and you don't
want to miss a game it's the NBA Finals, But
you don't help your team when you're injured and you
go out to play. There's no way the Pacers can
have him to have no field goals and four points.
(05:54):
Somebody else could have played and the backup point guard
had what a plus four on the plus minus so
you look at that, that's like a seventeen point, you know,
turnaround right.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
As far as the point guard. But my point is
we've seen this before. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
If you want to try to do with Willis Reed,
Rob G can you call up and find out what
then the famous Willis Reed game we limped out here.
We never finish all of that, okay, But you know,
but what people don't know about that.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Is that he didn't play the whole game that he
came out like.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
For support of the Knicks and they wind up winning
the championship and all that, and it's a historic and
a big history of Willis Reed. The captain injured limps
out plays a few minutes in the first quarter to
it for an inspiration. Brett Favre did it with the
Jets the next time. Carrie Roase is on the radio
(06:55):
on Fox Sports where ask him Jets were eight and three.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Oh my god, they got Brett Farv just gonna be great.
But do you have a.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Bicep bicep injury? And guess what the Jets started eight
and three and did not make the playoffs because he
tried to play through it. He was bad, and the
Jets didn't win, and there comes a point where, for
the good of the team, you have to take a
step back. You have to be selfish. You have to say,
(07:23):
you know what, I know they want me to play.
I know I'm a big part of the team, but
I can't help them. And everybody will respect that, even
if it just came out as a token to get
out there, to try to mix it up for a
few minutes and let That's why you have reserves. That's
why we've had big moments where guys have come off
the bench and had big contributions. Kelvin, It's happened all
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the time, and you go, where'd that come from? He
was waiting for his chance, waiting for his opportunity, waiting
for his moment. That's why he's played for all these
years and putting all his energy.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
We know it. It's a famous story.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Lou Garrick, Right, Wally Pip was the first basement, took
a day off, got in there, never never got back in.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But the point is you just made it. That's why
he's no play No.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But but when we coming in there taking my spinte off.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But my point is you never know who's sitting behind you.
That could give the team a spart could help. That's
that's my point. And of course so so uh it's selfish.
There's no other way of looking at it. At some
point the coach ain't gonna take you out. You gotta say,
you know what, Hey, Rick, I try it. I'm hurting
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the team. I'm not helping the team. I'm in the bower.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Let's on some play.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, I absolutely get what you're saying, and I do
think there comes a point. But this is why I
think he's going to play in Game six as long
as he medically can. If the doctors is absolutely he
say he can't, then he can't and he won't be
able to do anything about that. But I think what
he's trying to do is a bit of what willis
reed did.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I want to give him a spark. I want to
give him some hope.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And by now the good thing is too you get
two three days off, a couple of days off, so
you hope that, Okay, it's manageable.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I can play through this and Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
While you gave some examples of kind of how it
worked out bad, I think we've seen opposite examples where
guys were sick, guys were hurt and they showed up
and they played great. You know, my first one I'm
gonna go to because it's one of the favorite and
the greatest ever. Still the most points in a quarter
twenty five point from Isaiah Thomas in eighty eight in
the finals, Game six, on that bad ankle that ended
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up keeping him out of Game seven. It was so
swollen it was the size of a grape food after
the game. But magic, I mean, Isaiah went crazy against
the Lakers there, twenty five in a quarter on a
limping around the whole court. One of the most spectacular
things athletically I've ever seen. You seen Michael Jordan with
the flu game, right, we know what he did there.
We've seen Luca last year play through those finals that
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give him to team a shot last year, and I
just think, Tyreese Helliburton, you're going to have to drag
him off the because one thing you always say, you
always say this is there's no guarantee you can get back.
So I think if it's Tyree's halerburn is saying, if
I can play, I'm going out here. I'm gonna be
give the best I can. To their credit, they have
TJ McConnell, who's played very well the last couple of games.
(10:16):
And you have that if you're Rick Kyler in your
back pocket to say, all right, I'm gonna engauge, let
me get a flow, because here, real quick, TJ. McConnell
can't play all of those minutes because it's he plays
in spurts where he can go, you know what, to
the wall, all out, give you everything I got for
five minutes here, five minutes there, five minutes there. He
can't be a starter because then it changes the game.
(10:39):
It changes who he has to guard. He's great going
up at your second team. He's not starter guy to
go up against your first team all forty eight minutes,
forty two minutes whatever he would play because now he's
got a guard SGA, he's got a guard Jaylen Williams,
he's got a guard. Other guys he has to go
at them, they're gonna go at him, and it just
it changes the dynamic. He's great off the bench because
that's that spark plug, that energy. So I think he's
(11:00):
haler Bert. No, absolutely, he's going to play, and I
think he won't be one hundred percent, but he'll be
over Give them enough here's the challenge, though, Rob. You
know how I've been saying, even well before the finals,
this whole playoff run, he has to continuously be aggressive.
And I'll hear some people say he's not a big score,
he's not a volume. That's what you're mixing up what
(11:21):
I'm saying when I say aggression, aggression from him is
looking to score.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
At times.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
First aggression for him is go ahead and take that shot.
Is there, don't I'm swinging around one more time. No,
that's a shot we need you to take, because Rob,
do you know what they are when he scores twenty
or more, they're eight and oh. When he scores twenty
or more, I didn't say thirty. I didn't say forty.
I didn't say fifty. He can get twenty points. When
he scores twenty points in this postseason, they're eight and oh,
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and I believe they're six and seven when he scores less.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So he has to be aggressive.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's the only chance they win in that regard, because
OKC now is cooking.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
They got a couple wins in a row.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They smell blood as in the Larry O'Brian Trophy, and
I think he has to play to give this team
that ignition that they need. Now, you might say I'm
gonna give him twenty four minutes instead of thirty five
forty and be Rick Carlo be smart managing it. But
he absolutely has to play if they any shot to
win and get make this a game.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So I just the examples you gave were two of
the greatest players who have ever played, and yeah they have.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
They were productive while they were playing.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
At some point, I'm not against you going out and
trying once it's once it's obvious.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Remember he didn't make a field goal.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You just gave up Michael Jordan on a flu game
who was knocking down baskets. Isaiah, they were okay, they're
out there. They were performing, So go ahead, keep going.
At some point the coach or the player has to say,
I'm old for the game. From the field. That's not
going to help the mental rocket. What I'm saying, you
gotta produce it. What I'm saying, I don't think he
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that's it's just not natural for him to go. Like
Isaiah said, I only have a little bit on this ankle.
I'm going crazy. You know it, you know it, you
saw it. Yeah, But I'm saying, like those guys performed
to where you wouldn't even question whether or not they
should continue. My question is, at some point, when you're
three quarters in and you don't have a field goal,
(13:19):
do you have to look at it and say, you know,
he got us to this point. Now we need to
finish the game. Let's put somebody in. Let's we need baskets,
we need do you That's.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What I'm absolutely get And that's why I said, Rick Carlos,
this is why we all agree he's a great coach
and he's gonna go in the Hall of Fame, and
this is where he's gonna have to really really earn
that title, if you will, by managing it. But what
I meant was, even in the first half, his mentality
and this way, I know people say, oh, it gonna
be aggressive, it's just not in his mentality.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
At times sometimes he has to try more.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He has to say I'm gonna switch the game up,
I'm gonna go make it a little easy, I'm gonna
start at the elbow, I'm gonna start here. And it's
just not in his mental makeup. And I'm saying the
pacer are going to need him to change his mental
makeup and try to be more aggressive. Eight No, with
twenty more more points, we gotta get you there. But
either way, it's akon. He got locked up.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That defense is crazy eight.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I'm saying, if you would Tyrese Halliburton be selfish if
he plays hurt in game six, or should he bow
out and give.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's what other people opportunities? All right, welcome to you
that conversation.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Next with you, it is the Odd Couple on the
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Speaker 1 (14:58):
Oh yeah, this one go out to Tyrese Haliburton and
everybody with the Pacers. It was looking good for a minute, Alex.
Then they messed around. They got locked up by an
all time great defense.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It goes nah.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It is the odd Cover, Ron Parker Covern Washington on
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Now so we have to do.
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Be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart
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top of your screen. Robin, I say, let me do it,
Rob Parker, it's simple, Tyrese Haliverton, play that is you
and turn your Michael so we can hear you though.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Is that me there?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's simple, It's simple. So what the hell of Burton?
Play and be selfish? As Rob says me, I say,
you go for it. What else you got to do
is win or lose, win or go home? Game six?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You gotta play eight, seven, seven, ninety nine on Fox
taking some calls.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Who we got Scott in North Carolina. You're on the
couple of Fox for a minute.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Will you've been Scott? How are you.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
As well as well man trying to you know, lose
some weight like you, Rob?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Are you whoa whoa whoa?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
What do you mean? Just like him?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Me and Robert doing it just at a slower rate.
Come on, Scott, Scott, don't do me like that.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Scott, Scott, No, no, no, no, no, Scott. Ask Alex.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
We had a wait lost challenge and tour and you guys, Alex.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Rob G is my witness. I told you I lost
three pounds. Robb G did not. Okay, he went.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
On a cruise. You lose wave looking?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, I told you, I told told is in past
ten Okay, don't worry about my current situation.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
What he went on a cruise?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You look in af right now? Man, listen, Rob, you
be snitching too much.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You can do I can lose three pounds by bear
chicken of seventy six too. You know what, Scott? No
want hear his go ahead?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Go ahead? What you got? I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
He's definitely gonna play Game six for sure if he was,
if he got hurt, I don't think it's his call
to take himself out the game. I think that's something
the coaches got to do, especially when you seem to
flow the game and back to up port guard is
having a nice game. But I honestly credit all of
this the Oklahoma City defense. They are top defense. They
(17:35):
had twenty two turnovers start the game. Getting turnovers.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
We get that, and Scott I get that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
But but Halla Bird had no field goals.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You do you?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I think it's one thing if he plays and he
just has a socia, he had no field goals. At
some point you got to say to yourself, I'm not helping.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I'm hurting. That's all.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I just I credit all that they Yeah, so not
some injuries, but mostly to their defense.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Their defense is their defense is.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So good that one other game, did he have zero basket?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You have zero? But it ain't like he's been getting
like crazy.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Guess against New York he took seven shots one time.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
He did no Scott, but he got but he had
he had no field goals in four points.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You're not going because he was Scott. You feel me
on this. He was getting locked up, You feel me.
Scott haller Burton got locked up, all right.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Can we can we do we have to be power
one o five or whatever?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
What oh but we gotta well, we gotta be uh
old these one oh five?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
No, give me that power one o five.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Now we all got to be playing separation at Church
and State.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Unless it's nineteen.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
There you go, God forbid. I played and that what
I was like twenty years ago. Rob, that's considered the
oldie now.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
All right, Drew in New Jersey, you're under couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Drew?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Don't see how it's how it selfish?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Especially you look at Jordan moments the flu game.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
He came in.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
He played good with the flu.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I know, did he performed?
Speaker 10 (19:10):
If Michael Jordan had no feel, if Michael Jordan had
no field goals and they lost, you wouldn't look at
it the same way. My point is, he didn't perform.
He didn't perform. He didn't perform. He was obviously hell hurt.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Come on, come.
Speaker 10 (19:25):
On, playing like trash game one.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
He was playing like cracks.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, but not because he was physically hurt.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
As a difference either way, I called okay, seeing six,
that's all.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He wanted to get to that. He yes, that's what
that into nine. He'll get you into somewhere in New York.
He could have said anything, anything he was gonna get to.
I called that.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Halliburn clearly is going through a little bit with that stream.
But I still think he's messed around and got locked up.
That's what That's what it is, all right. We got
he from on the other side. We talk some hoos
with him and some NFL news as well. Right now,
Steven Saga is gonna get your set on what's training.
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Speaker 1 (20:10):
It is the oncopa Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a
trash talking Tuesday, and we getting ready to talk some
trash with our man E from Salam, former NFL offensive
line and Fox Sports Radio Weekend host E from Salam
on x eat.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Man? Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You know what we're doing?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Good?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
We we're not trash talking each other to too much
right now, although we do this right. No, we're not
fighting today, but hey, it's still early. Only been twenty
nine minutes, you know, we got two and a half
more to go. We we disagree on this. I say
it's not hurting the team if Halliburton gives it a go,
even if it's you know, his uh, his cavis strained.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I say, you gotta do it. It's game six.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
They need him, they're eight and No, when he scores
twenty or more, he's got to be more aggressive.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Robs thinks differently.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
He thinks if he's hurt, then you gotta play somebody
else where do you come out as an ex athlete
when this happen.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
You got to blow it out. You gotta be on
the shelf.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's what I'm saying. So you may never get back.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Your final You got to be on the SHOWF you got,
you got man, It's well, that's the end of the
season for me. We saw KD do it. Remember K
did it?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, that's a great that's a great point. We didn't
bring that out a great point.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It was like no, K was they were struggling. They
was over. They was like, oh man, he was like, nah,
I gotta do it. Noah.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But even in that situation, we knew I was a
mistake to put him out there and supposed that he's
cleared by the doctors. No, they talked about but they
were saying he was clear the doctors.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
No ways should have been out there. And that's my point.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
If it can't play, it's just like Baker Mayfield and Cleveland,
they held that against him. He played hurt that season, Ephraim,
and then they were like hurt and then they were like,
oh well he wasn't as good and they had to
get rid of They got rid of him, which.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Is not fair.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Somebody, somebody owes me five million dollars still six I
played hurt. Uh, you know, I came back and played
after surgery. And then you know when people started calling
and asking, they were like, well, you know, his knee
if it may last a game or may last year
or may last say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
(22:17):
But that's the mindset of an athlete, a real life
athlete is if we going down, were going down, it's
I get that guy out of it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I get that you have but that's why you're But
that's why at some point he had no field goals
four points a minus thirteen plus minus, and at some point,
for the betterment of everybody else, we saw it, I
brought up. The other example of Brett Farb at eight
and three with the Jets and had a bicep injury,
played on.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
They didn't make the playoffs that year, and Brett Farb
didn't have a great second half.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
It's a different situation because it's an elimination game and
there is no tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yes, but if he's no good, if he's no good,
what is the difference.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
It doesn't make.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
What I'm saying is if he comes out there at home,
he catches fire, he gives them a spark, the crowd
is going crazy, and they survive and get to a
game seven. It is what it is your heart breasts
to tell a guy unless it's like you're going to
blow your achilles out if you go out there and play,
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or you're going to do u uh uh usreparable damage
to something. If you go out there and play, then
guys are gonna go play. Man. We're built like this.
This is it's a reason why everybody can't be professional.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
As there you go, you always see there you go. Rob.
Do you remember he did that to us last time?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I didn't. What I'm saying is the mindset. Once you
get to that level, brother, you are psychotic. It don't
using normal logic, it doesn't applied because you've already come
convinced yourself of something else, whether it be true or not,
you mentally have gone. You've gone to a place where
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it's difficult to get to, and so once you're there
and you live on that plane everything, Brother, I started
fourteen games with two broken hands at left tackle.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
How that's crazy?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
How did you win the game?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah? We wanted no fourteen games, not one fourteen games.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
And y'all were one in thirteen in those games?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
No, no, you know why because we only have all
teams only have one left tackle on it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
How many give but no hands? With too how many
sacks you give up?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
As Sean Merriman, me and him were going at it
when we was when he was at the Chargers and
I was. I got pictures of me choke slamming him
with asks on my head. Oh seah, go hate dad,
But no, no, man, I'm I'm an athlete. And my
wife thought I was crazy. She literally this the reason
is the reason why my kids can't play football.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And she's like, yeah, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And no, speaking of football, I do want to get there.
The new York Giants in their quarterback room and who
should be the quarterback and how should they.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Go about it? If you're the Giants, obviously it's got
to be.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Russell, right right?
Speaker 8 (25:18):
So what good?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
That's what he's there for. He's a winning quarterback. You
let him go out there. I mean, number one, it's
better than what you've had since, you know, the last
Super Bowl championship. Because Eli wasn't all the bells and
whistles after that is I mean he to me, he
wasn't that guy anyway without the Super Bowls. So it's
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got to be Russell. Let Russell get in there and
do what he does. Man. I mean, he's a he's
a good quarterback. He's a winning quarterback. He still can
play and and and you know, Brian day Ball, in
my opinion, is still uh an offensive minded Google Rule
type for a quarterback. And so he has to get
(26:04):
back to that. Trying to fix what Daniel Jones was
kind of took a little mustard, little air out of
the room. So Brian Dabos has to recapture what made
him great and what made him sought after.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
He from Salamar guests, you I know how we do
it with big e former NFL offensive lineman Fox Sports
Radio Weekends even started fourteen games with two broken hands.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's how crazy he is.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Let me ask you this, there's somebody I know that
you're like many trying to protect against him will be crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Watt just trying to figure out what to do with
his deal in Pittsburgh. You got Hendrickson and with the Bengals,
and and look at a guy like Michael Parsons as
well with the Cowboys. What do you make of kind
of how teams handle these big time free agents? And
I want to go to TJ. But also using the
Cowboys as an example of this would be the third
time where they waited on a guy they knew they
(26:52):
were eventually gonna pay. Dak CD and now Micah, why
do they wait? That could have been making forty eight?
How they did it when they want it should have
r C five million less than when when they always wait?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
What's going on with that?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Top two things you need on a team outside of
the quarterback position as a left tackle and the edge rusher.
Those are mouth half. If you have those, you have
the real building blocks to perform. You've got to be
able to get to the quarterback on third and long,
and you've got to be able to keep people off
(27:27):
your quarterback on third and long. And if you're not
going to pay those guys, then the whole philosophy of
the team. What the Vingals are doing? Hey look brother,
good luck, good luck trying to score outscore every single
team you play.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
But we saw it last year and it didn't work.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
It did not work.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
We'll bring it up a million times from they played
the Ravens, Joe Burrow had nine touchdowns and they didn't
win one game.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
It's ridict And they said, and they've not only not
signed their guy, their stud they alienated their rookie. Good looker,
good luck with that one. Yeah, too bad. The rest
of the league don't see it at seven on seven.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
That's what they wait. They trying to beat everybody forty
five to forty every.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Single flag football.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And are you guys a wrong I was gonna go
back to t J. Watt too, just what what they
do with their If you're the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
They got to sign him. They got to sign that's
come on, man. The Steelers are built on defense, TJ.
Watch the reason why they continue to make the playoffs
with nobody on the planet Earth to throw the pass
down the field like he's the heart and soul of
that team. Him and Cam Hayward. Those guys were put
on the same side. You good luck as an offensive lineman.
(28:52):
I don't want to see that every day. It reminded
me of like Kyle Van den Bosch and Big Albert Hainsworth.
Uh and when they in Tennessee together. Man, trust me,
I've lived that nightmare. Okay, I've lived that nightmare. I've
been there with my left guard and us too, battling
those guys for seventy plays. And that's not what you want, right,
(29:13):
that's a note, that's a sleepless night the night before
the game. And if you don't sign a guy like TJ.
Watt back to the Steelers, then what's the whole point?
Throw the whole thing up the window.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
What gets done during this time of the year, I mean,
the stuff really get done?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Or is it wait really until training camp?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
No?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
You should. You should want to get it done now,
like like you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
In terms like the practices that they're Yeah, yeah, that's
what I'm asking.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah, No, it matters, man, because you know, especially if
there's a new coordinator in there's a new philosophy. But
it also brings in the free agents and the young players,
the rookies coming in and getting them act related to
your system and how you guys run things. That's what
you want. You want to be. You want to hit
camp feeling comfortable. Training camp isn't what it used to be.
(30:10):
Training camp used to be six weeks of dog days
to get every day. Yeah, but right, so now it's different.
So there isn't a lot of contact even in training
camp anymore. So all of these extra days, you want
to hit the ground running. You don't want to ramp
up like it used to be. Installed we're only doing
(30:30):
the run game this whole week the first week of
training camp, and then we're doing third down the second week,
and so on and so forth. Now everything is in.
The whole offense is in is how do you execute?
You want to know why teams like Kansas City and
and and Philly and all these teams are in Buffalo
are good is because they work NonStop all year.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, and now we know they don't practice as much.
It'll hit us hard. So it's definitely, Uh, they lose
kind of that time to get rep up for September
Game one. Ephram Man, appreciate you as always, brother, Thank
you no doubt Efram Salam again give him a follow
e from Salam on X. All Right, Sheecle City on
the wave. See how Rob did. Also, we got to
talk about conversation you and I had before first pitch
(31:15):
for the Dodgers. We'll talk about how Tany's performance.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
We'll do that. It's the couple.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
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Okay, ly Sebanger, dj Ali Alex, Fox Sports Radio, your boys,
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we're gonna take your calls for trash Talking Tuesday. So
make sure you bring it. And as Rob always says,
we will not in ot interrupt you. Looking forward for
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that in just a little bit. Right now, it's time
for Shekel City.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Welcome to Shekel City. The whole base for Rob Parker's day,
dicks against the.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Scrap to do a bad night for me, like one
or zero, start with a zero, Hello darkness, my old friend.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Oh and three last night?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, rob bettt before the Pacers again.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I keep telling them they're not gonna win, but Rob
Parker Sterling Junior doesn't listen.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yes, uh, here we go, so oh and three but
one sixty two and one sixty is my total.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Here we go a strong night tonight, my friend.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well we got best bet. Of course.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
The Yankees have been shut out two days in a rowing.
I keep saying like they're gonna erupt, and what are
they doing? They've been shut out and Mike trot up
to bat let's run home run and before nothing angels.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So he could have been a linebacker, you know, I
mean he's a big dude, Like, dude, have you ever
seen duh about to ask you have you ever seen
him run?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But just she's unbelieved dude.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Yeah, he was a freak athlete. People like not fair.
Game one, Game two, you got.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I'm taking the Seattle Mariners minus one and a half
over the Boston Red Sox. That game is in Seattle
and the last game.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think you got a you gotta run? Oh maybe not.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, So the bases are loaded already.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And then for the final game, I'm gonna take the
Texas Rangers minus one and a half runs. They are
taking on the Kansas City Royals. So we got the
Yankees or down one nothing already all right, Uh, Texas
minus one and a half and the Seattle Mariners minus
one and a half. And remember, I'm not telling you
(33:48):
who the better on I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Who I better A surprise.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, well, they've been shut out two nights in a row.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
H They could have scored one hundred runs in two games,
and you'd be like, I'm taking the Yankees zero fire
right now?
Speaker 11 (34:00):
You out to the MGM grand because you bet with
your heart not your head.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Stop it.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
How would I be? I'm over five hundred.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
I make money, boy, Rod, I'm gonna talk to you
too much about gambling to think you're making money. You know,
with the veig year at least like ten racks.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
In the whole.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
And then after tonight, Robb g he might be one
sixty two, one sixty three. You want to say, I'm
gonna go oh for oh six last No, I'm just
saying it's a possibility. I ain't saying you will listen.
I want you to win and support except when it's
arguments with me. Other than that, I want you to
win and support. Well, you know what going on and you, uh,
you didn't win. To Rob Jim, glad you're here because
(34:35):
I almost had to Joe break through the glass and
put Ian in a headline. Yesterday we were talking about
show hel Tony, which was a great, great conversation. Uh,
and I want to get to that after the play
of the Wet Day.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Oh, Tony's twenty eighth pitch O one one to Bogarts,
but Chopper to the left side munths he charging along
the line in the glove throws on the run.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Freeman stretchers in time to get him.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
And so that will strand up that the Padres do
get one other Nanny Bachando Sacrifice Fly Falling the back
to back singles to Greek show. Hey Otani in his
Dodger pitching debut in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Five Dodgers Radio, there was a five seventy Otani only
goes an inning, as you heard there, gives up at one.
But here's what's crazy behind this is why he is insane.
He won the game. The man brought in two runs
and only gave up one if you look at it
that way from his own standpoint, and Rob d Rob
and I were talking about this. I said, show Hay
has done enough that the conversation him being the best
(35:34):
ever is absolutely warranted. He pitched several seasons, high end pitcher,
obviously top tier hitter, and has stolen fifty bases, has
done so much a World Series ring. I mean, it's
he didn't have to do much else to me to
be in the conversation. The rest now is a cherry
on top and gravy to be I'm not saying he
is because there's probably five six guys that will never
be inconclusion, baseball been around for one hundred and eighty
(35:55):
five years or whatever by fifty years, so we'll never
get an actual answer. But Rob said it it ain't
enough because without doing both continuous like consecutively pitching and hitting,
he ain't that great.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Who's right, Rob Gi?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
My point is, yeah, it's very simple.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
It ain't simple.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
He ain't the best hitter in the game and he
ain't the best pitcher. And my only point is that
he needs both to be considered. That's what makes him
the Unicorn, and that's what makes him a great player.
Don't get me wrong. Individually though, he's not best at
either thing that he does. He's not the best pitcher
we've ever seen, and he's he hasn't even want to
(36:35):
sigh young. And he's not the best hitter we've seen
right now, Aaron Judge, without question, and not just the season,
go back to the last one hundred and sixty two games.
He's a better hitter, average, home runs, on base percentage,
like he's number one in every category offensively. That's all
I'm saying. I'm not saying he's not the best at
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either thing that he does.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Why does he have be the best if you're.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Talking about the greatest of all time?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
But he has been the best hitter. He's done it
for he's done it for five years. And you say
he's the greatest player ever, He's not. He's not better
than Willy Mays. He's not better than in those running
I just told you it's no.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
We're never gonna know if it was Hank Aaron or
Willie Mays or Barry Bonds or Babe Ruth or Mike Trout,
you know, maybe five guys, maybe one or two other.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm telling you he's not He's so he's not in
that five. No, I'm saying he's not better than Willie Mays.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
And I'm going to say that's fine, But that's the
n Jordan conversation.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
You get.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
What I'm saying is like, this is my point is
he needs both things for him to be elevated to
even that stature.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
It would be it would be.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
My thing is if he was the best hitter ever,
like the best hitter, like Barry Bonds, everybody, a lot
of people consider Barry Bond's the best hitter, then the
pitching part would be the added He's not the best
hitter and he's not the best picture.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But Robinson makes to.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Be a top tier hitter, arguably the best outside of
judge what.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
People saying he's the greatest. No, he's not, because he's
not the greatest at anything.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
All star caliber pitcher, yeah, all stars not if you're
telling me this man is doing something and an all
star level one side that no one other side of
really Babe Ruth has ever done, and he's the best
hitter maybe one beat to Aaron Judges, if you want
to say that, that's fine, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Bob got to be the you're.
Speaker 11 (38:30):
Doing turning to Mica Off like I was saying, I
feel like that's an unfair He's got to be the
greatest all time on both sides, Rob g I didn't
you said for him to be like Garry Dodge is
the greatest hitter. So if show Hey is that plus
also pitching, then he's the greatest.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Nobody has to be the best in one of the categories.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
He's because how are you going to really mad? Is
the best in one of the categories.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I'm just saying, Babe Ruth the best in one of
the Babe Ruth when when in his yes he was
the great, he was considered the greatest slugger. A lot
of people say Barry Bars took that over. But that's
why people value Babe Ruth and talked about his his career.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
That's the only thing I'm saying. But he was, he
was the best.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
He's not the best pitcher and he's not the best hitter.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's the strong Tayshawn Prince, who else got Rajon Rondo?
This is a reach, This is a reach boy,
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I already got my trash Talking Tuesday locked in and
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You want me to trash talk you now, trash talking trash?
Give me a little, a little I know you know. No,
you gave me a taste more than I asked for it.
I don't know me want to say he got a taste.
I didn't mean to say that in their face. Big
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Speaker 4 (02:58):
Fell No, Alex, rob g You know I'm not trying
to sound he's taking this young girlfriend stuff too far.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Alex.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
He came in here looking like he was trying to
show off his new little look at my tool underwear.
I'm out here like he was a little ribbed like
the rapper.
Speaker 4 (03:13):
No, I'm just you know. And weight loss, I don't
know if you know this. When you lose weight, the
first thing to go is your backside. Your backside goes first.
Your gut is the last thing to go. So you
lose weight all over your body. But it is you're
behind that first loses the weight. I don't know why
that is, but it is. And I have a belt
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on and my pants literally just slipped off. A pointless
belt belt just on for no reason. And of course Iowa.
Sam was there to be the pants. Yeah, yeah, he's
the pants. Well, he's the police about everything right.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Away. Drinks, yes, yes, throwing away drinks, going away food. Yesterday,
I was in here. I was in here really early,
just sitting here. Well, you slipt that here.
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I didn't even see you, saying, first of all, you're
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What do you mean? Hey, just turned the air down
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It's supposed to be the Farenheit of the Celsius Acts of.
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The All right, we already know.
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All right, Hey, hey, let's go. We got a great show,
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Speaker 7 (04:27):
And never heard of him, heard of them?
Speaker 3 (04:32):
That's what you give a jump in the gun. I've
heard of him. You have heard of them?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Sager is in uh Elijah Stead today, never heard of
take it a few days off.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So all good.
Speaker 4 (04:42):
So let's get started here, and we know what happened
in Game five, right, it didn't cover, which was bad too.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
They had they I thought they were about to they
go down and get a lift. He got stripped on
the way up and.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Unbelievabed that would have That would a lot of you know,
you know, people kick their TV sets in, but that's like,
that's what they that's why they call it gambling. But anyway,
Tyrese Haliburton tried to play through an injury and had
no field goals.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
What do you have?
Speaker 6 (05:11):
Four?
Speaker 5 (05:11):
Was it four points or six points?
Speaker 3 (05:12):
Yep?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Four points minus thirteen out there of the plus minus.
And I just got one message to Tyrese Haliburton and
to all players who decide to do what he did yesterday.
Speaker 5 (05:29):
Don't play if you're hurt.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
I know, I know you want to be out there
for your teammates to try to help, and you don't
want to miss a game it's the NBA Finals, But
you don't help your team when you're injured and you
go out to play. There's no way the Pacers can
have him to have no field goals and four points.
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Somebody else could have played and the backup point guard
had what a plus four on the plus minus so
you look at that, that's like a seventeen point, you know,
turnaround right.
Speaker 5 (06:07):
As far as the point guard. But my point is
we've seen this before. It's okay.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
If you want to try to do with Willis Reed,
Rob G can you call up and find out what
then the famous Willis Reed game we limped out here.
We never finish all of that, okay, But you know,
but what people don't know about that.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Is that he didn't play the whole game that he
came out like.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
For support of the Knicks and they wind up winning
the championship and all that, and it's a historic and
a big history of Willis Reed. The captain injured limps
out plays a few minutes in the first quarter to
it for an inspiration. Brett Favre did it with the
Jets the next time. Carrie Roase is on the radio
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on Fox Sports where ask him Jets were eight and three.
Speaker 5 (06:58):
Oh my god, they got Brett Farv just gonna be great.
But do you have a.
Speaker 4 (07:02):
Bicep bicep injury? And guess what the Jets started eight
and three and did not make the playoffs because he
tried to play through it. He was bad, and the
Jets didn't win, and there comes a point where, for
the good of the team, you have to take a
step back. You have to be selfish. You have to say,
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you know what, I know they want me to play.
I know I'm a big part of the team, but
I can't help them. And everybody will respect that, even
if it just came out as a token to get
out there, to try to mix it up for a
few minutes and let That's why you have reserves. That's
why we've had big moments where guys have come off
the bench and had big contributions. Kelvin, It's happened all
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the time, and you go, where'd that come from? He
was waiting for his chance, waiting for his opportunity, waiting
for his moment. That's why he's played for all these
years and putting all his energy.
Speaker 5 (08:00):
We know it. It's a famous story.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Lou Garrick, Right, Wally Pip was the first basement, took
a day off, got in there, never never got back in.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
But the point is you just made it. That's why
he's no play No.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But but when we coming in there taking my spinte off.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
But my point is you never know who's sitting behind you.
That could give the team a spart could help. That's
that's my point. And of course so so uh it's selfish.
There's no other way of looking at it. At some
point the coach ain't gonna take you out. You gotta say,
you know what, Hey, Rick, I try it. I'm hurting
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the team. I'm not helping the team. I'm in the bower.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
Let's on some play.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, I absolutely get what you're saying, and I do
think there comes a point. But this is why I
think he's going to play in Game six as long
as he medically can. If the doctors is absolutely he
say he can't, then he can't and he won't be
able to do anything about that. But I think what
he's trying to do is a bit of what willis
reed did.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
I want to give him a spark. I want to
give him some hope.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
And by now the good thing is too you get
two three days off, a couple of days off, so
you hope that, Okay, it's manageable.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
I can play through this and Rob.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
While you gave some examples of kind of how it
worked out bad, I think we've seen opposite examples where
guys were sick, guys were hurt and they showed up
and they played great. You know, my first one I'm
gonna go to because it's one of the favorite and
the greatest ever. Still the most points in a quarter
twenty five point from Isaiah Thomas in eighty eight in
the finals, Game six, on that bad ankle that ended
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up keeping him out of Game seven. It was so
swollen it was the size of a grape food after
the game. But magic, I mean, Isaiah went crazy against
the Lakers there, twenty five in a quarter on a
limping around the whole court. One of the most spectacular
things athletically I've ever seen. You seen Michael Jordan with
the flu game, right, we know what he did there.
We've seen Luca last year play through those finals that
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give him to team a shot last year, and I
just think, Tyreese Helliburton, you're going to have to drag
him off the because one thing you always say, you
always say this is there's no guarantee you can get back.
So I think if it's Tyree's halerburn is saying, if
I can play, I'm going out here. I'm gonna be
give the best I can. To their credit, they have
TJ McConnell, who's played very well the last couple of games.
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And you have that if you're Rick Kyler in your
back pocket to say, all right, I'm gonna engauge, let
me get a flow, because here, real quick, TJ. McConnell
can't play all of those minutes because it's he plays
in spurts where he can go, you know what, to
the wall, all out, give you everything I got for
five minutes here, five minutes there, five minutes there. He
can't be a starter because then it changes the game.
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It changes who he has to guard. He's great going
up at your second team. He's not starter guy to
go up against your first team all forty eight minutes,
forty two minutes whatever he would play because now he's
got a guard SGA, he's got a guard Jaylen Williams,
he's got a guard. Other guys he has to go
at them, they're gonna go at him, and it just
it changes the dynamic. He's great off the bench because
that's that spark plug, that energy. So I think he's
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haler Bert. No, absolutely, he's going to play, and I
think he won't be one hundred percent, but he'll be
over Give them enough here's the challenge, though, Rob. You
know how I've been saying, even well before the finals,
this whole playoff run, he has to continuously be aggressive.
And I'll hear some people say he's not a big score,
he's not a volume. That's what you're mixing up what
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I'm saying when I say aggression, aggression from him is
looking to score.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
At times.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
First aggression for him is go ahead and take that shot.
Is there, don't I'm swinging around one more time. No,
that's a shot we need you to take, because Rob,
do you know what they are when he scores twenty
or more, they're eight and oh. When he scores twenty
or more, I didn't say thirty. I didn't say forty.
I didn't say fifty. He can get twenty points. When
he scores twenty points in this postseason, they're eight and oh,
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and I believe they're six and seven when he scores less.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So he has to be aggressive.
Speaker 1 (11:55):
He's the only chance they win in that regard, because
OKC now is cooking.
Speaker 3 (11:59):
They got a couple wins in a row.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
They smell blood as in the Larry O'Brian Trophy, and
I think he has to play to give this team
that ignition that they need. Now, you might say I'm
gonna give him twenty four minutes instead of thirty five
forty and be Rick Carlo be smart managing it. But
he absolutely has to play if they any shot to
win and get make this a game.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
So I just the examples you gave were two of
the greatest players who have ever played, and yeah they have.
Speaker 5 (12:24):
They were productive while they were playing.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
At some point, I'm not against you going out and
trying once it's once it's obvious.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
Remember he didn't make a field goal.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
You just gave up Michael Jordan on a flu game
who was knocking down baskets. Isaiah, they were okay, they're
out there. They were performing, So go ahead, keep going.
At some point the coach or the player has to say,
I'm old for the game. From the field. That's not
going to help the mental rocket. What I'm saying, you
gotta produce it. What I'm saying, I don't think he
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that's it's just not natural for him to go. Like
Isaiah said, I only have a little bit on this ankle.
I'm going crazy. You know it, you know it, you
saw it. Yeah, But I'm saying, like those guys performed
to where you wouldn't even question whether or not they
should continue. My question is, at some point, when you're
three quarters in and you don't have a field goal,
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do you have to look at it and say, you know,
he got us to this point. Now we need to
finish the game. Let's put somebody in. Let's we need baskets,
we need do you That's.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
What I'm absolutely get And that's why I said, Rick Carlos,
this is why we all agree he's a great coach
and he's gonna go in the Hall of Fame, and
this is where he's gonna have to really really earn
that title, if you will, by managing it. But what
I meant was, even in the first half, his mentality
and this way, I know people say, oh, it gonna
be aggressive, it's just not in his mentality.
Speaker 3 (13:47):
At times sometimes he has to try more.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
He has to say I'm gonna switch the game up,
I'm gonna go make it a little easy, I'm gonna
start at the elbow, I'm gonna start here. And it's
just not in his mental makeup. And I'm saying the
pacer are going to need him to change his mental
makeup and try to be more aggressive. Eight No, with
twenty more more points, we gotta get you there. But
either way, it's akon. He got locked up.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
All right?
Speaker 3 (14:08):
That defense is crazy eight.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
Seven seven ninety nine on Fox eight seven seven nine
nine six sixty three sixty nine.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (14:17):
I'm saying, if you would Tyrese Halliburton be selfish if
he plays hurt in game six, or should he bow
out and give.
Speaker 5 (14:30):
That's what other people opportunities? All right, welcome to you
that conversation.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Next with you, it is the Odd Couple on the
Trash Talking Tuesday, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington right here on
Fox Sports Radio. You know what to do, stick and stay.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
To finally be put on dime in the US of A.
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Be sure to catch live editions of The Odd Couple
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Speaker 1 (14:58):
Oh yeah, this one go out to Tyrese Haliburton and
everybody with the Pacers. It was looking good for a minute, Alex.
Then they messed around. They got locked up by an
all time great defense.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
It goes nah.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
It is the odd Cover, Ron Parker Covern Washington on
the Trash Talking Tuesday, looking forward to hear what you
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Speaker 3 (15:41):
Now so we have to do.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Be sure to preset Fox Sports Radio in the iHeart
Radio app and it will always pop up at the
top of your screen. Robin, I say, let me do it,
Rob Parker, it's simple, Tyrese Haliverton, play that is you
and turn your Michael so we can hear you though.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Is that me there?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
It's simple, It's simple. So what the hell of Burton?
Play and be selfish? As Rob says me, I say,
you go for it. What else you got to do
is win or lose, win or go home? Game six?
Speaker 3 (16:11):
You gotta play eight, seven, seven, ninety nine on Fox
taking some calls.
Speaker 7 (16:14):
Who we got Scott in North Carolina. You're on the
couple of Fox for a minute.
Speaker 5 (16:20):
Will you've been Scott? How are you.
Speaker 8 (16:23):
As well as well man trying to you know, lose
some weight like you, Rob?
Speaker 5 (16:27):
Are you whoa whoa whoa?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
What do you mean? Just like him?
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Me and Robert doing it just at a slower rate.
Come on, Scott, Scott, don't do me like that.
Speaker 5 (16:34):
Scott, Scott, No, no, no, no, no, Scott. Ask Alex.
Speaker 4 (16:40):
We had a wait lost challenge and tour and you guys, Alex.
Speaker 1 (16:47):
Rob G is my witness. I told you I lost
three pounds. Robb G did not. Okay, he went.
Speaker 5 (16:52):
On a cruise. You lose wave looking?
Speaker 1 (16:54):
No, I told you, I told told is in past
ten Okay, don't worry about my current situation.
Speaker 5 (16:58):
What he went on a cruise?
Speaker 3 (16:59):
You look in af right now? Man, listen, Rob, you
be snitching too much.
Speaker 6 (17:03):
Rob.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
You can do I can lose three pounds by bear
chicken of seventy six too. You know what, Scott? No
want hear his go ahead?
Speaker 6 (17:09):
Go ahead? What you got? I gotta, I gotta.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
He's definitely gonna play Game six for sure if he was,
if he got hurt, I don't think it's his call
to take himself out the game. I think that's something
the coaches got to do, especially when you seem to
flow the game and back to up port guard is
having a nice game. But I honestly credit all of
this the Oklahoma City defense. They are top defense. They
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had twenty two turnovers start the game. Getting turnovers.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
We get that, and Scott I get that.
Speaker 4 (17:41):
But but Halla Bird had no field goals.
Speaker 6 (17:44):
You do you?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
I think it's one thing if he plays and he
just has a socia, he had no field goals. At
some point you got to say to yourself, I'm not helping.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
I'm hurting. That's all.
Speaker 8 (17:56):
I just I credit all that they Yeah, so not
some injuries, but mostly to their defense.
Speaker 2 (18:02):
Their defense is their defense is.
Speaker 5 (18:03):
So good that one other game, did he have zero basket?
Speaker 3 (18:06):
You have zero? But it ain't like he's been getting
like crazy.
Speaker 8 (18:10):
Guess against New York he took seven shots one time.
Speaker 7 (18:13):
He did no Scott, but he got but he had
he had no field goals in four points.
Speaker 1 (18:19):
You're not going because he was Scott. You feel me
on this. He was getting locked up, You feel me.
Scott haller Burton got locked up, all right.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
Can we can we do we have to be power
one o five or whatever?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Well?
Speaker 3 (18:35):
What oh but we gotta well, we gotta be uh
old these one oh five?
Speaker 5 (18:40):
No, give me that power one o five.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Now we all got to be playing separation at Church
and State.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Unless it's nineteen.
Speaker 1 (18:46):
There you go, God forbid. I played and that what
I was like twenty years ago. Rob, that's considered the
oldie now.
Speaker 4 (18:54):
All right, Drew in New Jersey, you're under couple of
Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (18:58):
Drew?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Don't see how it's how it selfish?
Speaker 9 (19:02):
Especially you look at Jordan moments the flu game.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
He came in.
Speaker 8 (19:06):
He played good with the flu.
Speaker 5 (19:08):
I know, did he performed?
Speaker 10 (19:10):
If Michael Jordan had no feel, if Michael Jordan had
no field goals and they lost, you wouldn't look at
it the same way. My point is, he didn't perform.
He didn't perform. He didn't perform. He was obviously hell hurt.
Speaker 5 (19:24):
Come on, come.
Speaker 10 (19:25):
On, playing like trash game one.
Speaker 7 (19:28):
He was playing like cracks.
Speaker 5 (19:29):
Yeah, but not because he was physically hurt.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
As a difference either way, I called okay, seeing six,
that's all.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
He wanted to get to that. He yes, that's what
that into nine. He'll get you into somewhere in New York.
He could have said anything, anything he was gonna get to.
I called that.
Speaker 6 (19:46):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
Halliburn clearly is going through a little bit with that stream.
But I still think he's messed around and got locked up.
That's what That's what it is, all right. We got
he from on the other side. We talk some hoos
with him and some NFL news as well. Right now,
Steven Saga is gonna get your set on what's training.
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Speaker 1 (20:10):
It is the oncopa Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a
trash talking Tuesday, and we getting ready to talk some
trash with our man E from Salam, former NFL offensive
line and Fox Sports Radio Weekend host E from Salam
on x eat.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
What's up?
Speaker 6 (20:24):
Man? Uh?
Speaker 3 (20:25):
You know what we're doing?
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Good?
Speaker 1 (20:27):
We we're not trash talking each other to too much
right now, although we do this right. No, we're not
fighting today, but hey, it's still early. Only been twenty
nine minutes, you know, we got two and a half
more to go. We we disagree on this. I say
it's not hurting the team if Halliburton gives it a go,
even if it's you know, his uh, his cavis strained.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
I say, you gotta do it. It's game six.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
They need him, they're eight and No, when he scores
twenty or more, he's got to be more aggressive.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
Robs thinks differently.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
He thinks if he's hurt, then you gotta play somebody
else where do you come out as an ex athlete
when this happen.
Speaker 6 (21:00):
You got to blow it out. You gotta be on
the shelf.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
That's what I'm saying. So you may never get back.
Speaker 6 (21:08):
Your final You got to be on the SHOWF you got,
you got man, It's well, that's the end of the
season for me. We saw KD do it. Remember K
did it?
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Yeah, that's a great that's a great point. We didn't
bring that out a great point.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
It was like no, K was they were struggling. They
was over. They was like, oh man, he was like, nah,
I gotta do it. Noah.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
But even in that situation, we knew I was a
mistake to put him out there and supposed that he's
cleared by the doctors. No, they talked about but they
were saying he was clear the doctors.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
No ways should have been out there. And that's my point.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
If it can't play, it's just like Baker Mayfield and Cleveland,
they held that against him. He played hurt that season, Ephraim,
and then they were like hurt and then they were like,
oh well he wasn't as good and they had to
get rid of They got rid of him, which.
Speaker 5 (21:54):
Is not fair.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
Somebody, somebody owes me five million dollars still six I
played hurt. Uh, you know, I came back and played
after surgery. And then you know when people started calling
and asking, they were like, well, you know, his knee
if it may last a game or may last year
or may last say yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
(22:17):
But that's the mindset of an athlete, a real life
athlete is if we going down, were going down, it's
I get that guy out of it.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I get that you have but that's why you're But
that's why at some point he had no field goals
four points a minus thirteen plus minus, and at some point,
for the betterment of everybody else, we saw it, I
brought up. The other example of Brett Farb at eight
and three with the Jets and had a bicep injury,
played on.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
They didn't make the playoffs that year, and Brett Farb
didn't have a great second half.
Speaker 6 (22:53):
It's a different situation because it's an elimination game and
there is no tomorrow.
Speaker 5 (23:00):
Yes, but if he's no good, if he's no good,
what is the difference.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
It doesn't make.
Speaker 6 (23:04):
What I'm saying is if he comes out there at home,
he catches fire, he gives them a spark, the crowd
is going crazy, and they survive and get to a
game seven. It is what it is your heart breasts
to tell a guy unless it's like you're going to
blow your achilles out if you go out there and play,
(23:27):
or you're going to do u uh uh usreparable damage
to something. If you go out there and play, then
guys are gonna go play. Man. We're built like this.
This is it's a reason why everybody can't be professional.
Speaker 3 (23:42):
As there you go, you always see there you go. Rob.
Do you remember he did that to us last time?
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I didn't. What I'm saying is the mindset. Once you
get to that level, brother, you are psychotic. It don't
using normal logic, it doesn't applied because you've already come
convinced yourself of something else, whether it be true or not,
you mentally have gone. You've gone to a place where
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it's difficult to get to, and so once you're there
and you live on that plane everything, Brother, I started
fourteen games with two broken hands at left tackle.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
How that's crazy?
Speaker 5 (24:21):
How did you win the game?
Speaker 6 (24:25):
Yeah? We wanted no fourteen games, not one fourteen games.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
And y'all were one in thirteen in those games?
Speaker 6 (24:33):
No, no, you know why because we only have all
teams only have one left tackle on it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
How many give but no hands? With too how many
sacks you give up?
Speaker 6 (24:43):
As Sean Merriman, me and him were going at it
when we was when he was at the Chargers and
I was. I got pictures of me choke slamming him
with asks on my head. Oh seah, go hate dad,
But no, no, man, I'm I'm an athlete. And my
wife thought I was crazy. She literally this the reason
is the reason why my kids can't play football.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
And she's like, yeah, we're not doing that.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
And no, speaking of football, I do want to get there.
The new York Giants in their quarterback room and who
should be the quarterback and how should they.
Speaker 5 (25:14):
Go about it? If you're the Giants, obviously it's got
to be.
Speaker 6 (25:17):
Russell, right right?
Speaker 8 (25:18):
So what good?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
That's what he's there for. He's a winning quarterback. You
let him go out there. I mean, number one, it's
better than what you've had since, you know, the last
Super Bowl championship. Because Eli wasn't all the bells and
whistles after that is I mean he to me, he
wasn't that guy anyway without the Super Bowls. So it's
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got to be Russell. Let Russell get in there and
do what he does. Man. I mean, he's a he's
a good quarterback. He's a winning quarterback. He still can
play and and and you know, Brian day Ball, in
my opinion, is still uh an offensive minded Google Rule
type for a quarterback. And so he has to get
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back to that. Trying to fix what Daniel Jones was
kind of took a little mustard, little air out of
the room. So Brian Dabos has to recapture what made
him great and what made him sought after.
Speaker 1 (26:16):
He from Salamar guests, you I know how we do
it with big e former NFL offensive lineman Fox Sports
Radio Weekends even started fourteen games with two broken hands.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
That's how crazy he is.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
Let me ask you this, there's somebody I know that
you're like many trying to protect against him will be crazy.
Speaker 3 (26:31):
TJ.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Watt just trying to figure out what to do with
his deal in Pittsburgh. You got Hendrickson and with the Bengals,
and and look at a guy like Michael Parsons as
well with the Cowboys. What do you make of kind
of how teams handle these big time free agents? And
I want to go to TJ. But also using the
Cowboys as an example of this would be the third
time where they waited on a guy they knew they
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were eventually gonna pay. Dak CD and now Micah, why
do they wait? That could have been making forty eight?
How they did it when they want it should have
r C five million less than when when they always wait?
Speaker 3 (27:04):
What's going on with that?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
Top two things you need on a team outside of
the quarterback position as a left tackle and the edge rusher.
Those are mouth half. If you have those, you have
the real building blocks to perform. You've got to be
able to get to the quarterback on third and long,
and you've got to be able to keep people off
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your quarterback on third and long. And if you're not
going to pay those guys, then the whole philosophy of
the team. What the Vingals are doing? Hey look brother,
good luck, good luck trying to score outscore every single
team you play.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
But we saw it last year and it didn't work.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
It did not work.
Speaker 4 (27:49):
We'll bring it up a million times from they played
the Ravens, Joe Burrow had nine touchdowns and they didn't
win one game.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
It's ridict And they said, and they've not only not
signed their guy, their stud they alienated their rookie. Good looker,
good luck with that one. Yeah, too bad. The rest
of the league don't see it at seven on seven.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
That's what they wait. They trying to beat everybody forty
five to forty every.
Speaker 6 (28:21):
Single flag football.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
And are you guys a wrong I was gonna go
back to t J. Watt too, just what what they
do with their If you're the Steelers.
Speaker 6 (28:29):
They got to sign him. They got to sign that's
come on, man. The Steelers are built on defense, TJ.
Watch the reason why they continue to make the playoffs
with nobody on the planet Earth to throw the pass
down the field like he's the heart and soul of
that team. Him and Cam Hayward. Those guys were put
on the same side. You good luck as an offensive lineman.
(28:52):
I don't want to see that every day. It reminded
me of like Kyle Van den Bosch and Big Albert Hainsworth.
Uh and when they in Tennessee together. Man, trust me,
I've lived that nightmare. Okay, I've lived that nightmare. I've
been there with my left guard and us too, battling
those guys for seventy plays. And that's not what you want, right,
(29:13):
that's a note, that's a sleepless night the night before
the game. And if you don't sign a guy like TJ.
Watt back to the Steelers, then what's the whole point?
Throw the whole thing up the window.
Speaker 4 (29:26):
What gets done during this time of the year, I mean,
the stuff really get done?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Or is it wait really until training camp?
Speaker 4 (29:33):
No?
Speaker 6 (29:33):
You should. You should want to get it done now,
like like you're talking about.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
In terms like the practices that they're Yeah, yeah, that's
what I'm asking.
Speaker 6 (29:46):
Yeah, No, it matters, man, because you know, especially if
there's a new coordinator in there's a new philosophy. But
it also brings in the free agents and the young players,
the rookies coming in and getting them act related to
your system and how you guys run things. That's what
you want. You want to be. You want to hit
camp feeling comfortable. Training camp isn't what it used to be.
(30:10):
Training camp used to be six weeks of dog days
to get every day. Yeah, but right, so now it's different.
So there isn't a lot of contact even in training
camp anymore. So all of these extra days, you want
to hit the ground running. You don't want to ramp
up like it used to be. Installed we're only doing
(30:30):
the run game this whole week the first week of
training camp, and then we're doing third down the second week,
and so on and so forth. Now everything is in.
The whole offense is in is how do you execute?
You want to know why teams like Kansas City and
and and Philly and all these teams are in Buffalo
are good is because they work NonStop all year.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
Yeah, and now we know they don't practice as much.
It'll hit us hard. So it's definitely, Uh, they lose
kind of that time to get rep up for September
Game one. Ephram Man, appreciate you as always, brother, Thank
you no doubt Efram Salam again give him a follow
e from Salam on X. All Right, Sheecle City on
the wave. See how Rob did. Also, we got to
talk about conversation you and I had before first pitch
(31:15):
for the Dodgers. We'll talk about how Tany's performance.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
We'll do that. It's the couple.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Rob Parker Kevin Washington on a trash Talking Tuesday. Fox
Sports Radio.
Speaker 2 (31:23):
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Speaker 1 (31:35):
Okay, ly Sebanger, dj Ali Alex, Fox Sports Radio, your boys,
Rob kelvin the cup on a No, it's a trash
talking Tuesday. Let me get it right, Remember I do
misremember I do remember that. In about an hour or so,
we're gonna take your calls for trash Talking Tuesday. So
make sure you bring it. And as Rob always says,
we will not in ot interrupt you. Looking forward for
(31:57):
that in just a little bit. Right now, it's time
for Shekel City.
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Welcome to Shekel City. The whole base for Rob Parker's day,
dicks against the.
Speaker 7 (32:10):
Scrap to do a bad night for me, like one
or zero, start with a zero, Hello darkness, my old friend.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Oh and three last night?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
Yeah, rob bettt before the Pacers again.
Speaker 1 (32:28):
I keep telling them they're not gonna win, but Rob
Parker Sterling Junior doesn't listen.
Speaker 4 (32:33):
Yes, uh, here we go, so oh and three but
one sixty two and one sixty is my total.
Speaker 3 (32:42):
Here we go a strong night tonight, my friend.
Speaker 5 (32:44):
Well we got best bet. Of course.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
The Yankees have been shut out two days in a rowing.
I keep saying like they're gonna erupt, and what are
they doing? They've been shut out and Mike trot up
to bat let's run home run and before nothing angels.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
So he could have been a linebacker, you know, I
mean he's a big dude, Like, dude, have you ever
seen duh about to ask you have you ever seen
him run?
Speaker 5 (33:03):
But just she's unbelieved dude.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
Yeah, he was a freak athlete. People like not fair.
Game one, Game two, you got.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
I'm taking the Seattle Mariners minus one and a half
over the Boston Red Sox. That game is in Seattle
and the last game.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
I think you got a you gotta run? Oh maybe not.
Speaker 5 (33:24):
No, So the bases are loaded already.
Speaker 4 (33:28):
And then for the final game, I'm gonna take the
Texas Rangers minus one and a half runs. They are
taking on the Kansas City Royals. So we got the
Yankees or down one nothing already all right, Uh, Texas
minus one and a half and the Seattle Mariners minus
one and a half. And remember, I'm not telling you
(33:48):
who the better on I'm telling you.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
Who I better A surprise.
Speaker 5 (33:52):
Yeah, well, they've been shut out two nights in a row.
Speaker 1 (33:55):
H They could have scored one hundred runs in two games,
and you'd be like, I'm taking the Yankees zero fire
right now?
Speaker 11 (34:00):
You out to the MGM grand because you bet with
your heart not your head.
Speaker 3 (34:03):
Stop it.
Speaker 5 (34:04):
How would I be? I'm over five hundred.
Speaker 11 (34:06):
I make money, boy, Rod, I'm gonna talk to you
too much about gambling to think you're making money. You know,
with the veig year at least like ten racks.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
In the whole.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
And then after tonight, Robb g he might be one
sixty two, one sixty three. You want to say, I'm
gonna go oh for oh six last No, I'm just
saying it's a possibility. I ain't saying you will listen.
I want you to win and support except when it's
arguments with me. Other than that, I want you to
win and support. Well, you know what going on and you, uh,
you didn't win. To Rob Jim, glad you're here because
(34:35):
I almost had to Joe break through the glass and
put Ian in a headline. Yesterday we were talking about
show hel Tony, which was a great, great conversation. Uh,
and I want to get to that after the play
of the Wet Day.
Speaker 9 (34:48):
Oh, Tony's twenty eighth pitch O one one to Bogarts,
but Chopper to the left side munths he charging along
the line in the glove throws on the run.
Speaker 5 (34:55):
Freeman stretchers in time to get him.
Speaker 9 (34:58):
And so that will strand up that the Padres do
get one other Nanny Bachando Sacrifice Fly Falling the back
to back singles to Greek show. Hey Otani in his
Dodger pitching debut in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
Five Dodgers Radio, there was a five seventy Otani only
goes an inning, as you heard there, gives up at one.
But here's what's crazy behind this is why he is insane.
He won the game. The man brought in two runs
and only gave up one if you look at it
that way from his own standpoint, and Rob d Rob
and I were talking about this. I said, show Hay
has done enough that the conversation him being the best
(35:34):
ever is absolutely warranted. He pitched several seasons, high end pitcher,
obviously top tier hitter, and has stolen fifty bases, has
done so much a World Series ring. I mean, it's
he didn't have to do much else to me to
be in the conversation. The rest now is a cherry
on top and gravy to be I'm not saying he
is because there's probably five six guys that will never
be inconclusion, baseball been around for one hundred and eighty
(35:55):
five years or whatever by fifty years, so we'll never
get an actual answer. But Rob said it it ain't
enough because without doing both continuous like consecutively pitching and hitting,
he ain't that great.
Speaker 3 (36:08):
Who's right, Rob Gi?
Speaker 5 (36:11):
My point is, yeah, it's very simple.
Speaker 3 (36:14):
It ain't simple.
Speaker 4 (36:15):
He ain't the best hitter in the game and he
ain't the best pitcher. And my only point is that
he needs both to be considered. That's what makes him
the Unicorn, and that's what makes him a great player.
Don't get me wrong. Individually though, he's not best at
either thing that he does. He's not the best pitcher
we've ever seen, and he's he hasn't even want to
(36:35):
sigh young. And he's not the best hitter we've seen
right now, Aaron Judge, without question, and not just the season,
go back to the last one hundred and sixty two games.
He's a better hitter, average, home runs, on base percentage,
like he's number one in every category offensively. That's all
I'm saying. I'm not saying he's not the best at
(36:57):
either thing that he does.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Why does he have be the best if you're.
Speaker 5 (37:01):
Talking about the greatest of all time?
Speaker 4 (37:04):
But he has been the best hitter. He's done it
for he's done it for five years. And you say
he's the greatest player ever, He's not. He's not better
than Willy Mays. He's not better than in those running
I just told you it's no.
Speaker 1 (37:17):
We're never gonna know if it was Hank Aaron or
Willie Mays or Barry Bonds or Babe Ruth or Mike Trout,
you know, maybe five guys, maybe one or two other.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
I'm telling you he's not He's so he's not in
that five. No, I'm saying he's not better than Willie Mays.
Speaker 5 (37:31):
He's not.
Speaker 1 (37:32):
And I'm going to say that's fine, But that's the
n Jordan conversation.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
You get.
Speaker 4 (37:37):
What I'm saying is like, this is my point is
he needs both things for him to be elevated to
even that stature.
Speaker 5 (37:46):
It would be it would be.
Speaker 4 (37:47):
My thing is if he was the best hitter ever,
like the best hitter, like Barry Bonds, everybody, a lot
of people consider Barry Bond's the best hitter, then the
pitching part would be the added He's not the best
hitter and he's not the best picture.
Speaker 3 (38:01):
But Robinson makes to.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
Be a top tier hitter, arguably the best outside of
judge what.
Speaker 4 (38:05):
People saying he's the greatest. No, he's not, because he's
not the greatest at anything.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
All star caliber pitcher, yeah, all stars not if you're
telling me this man is doing something and an all
star level one side that no one other side of
really Babe Ruth has ever done, and he's the best
hitter maybe one beat to Aaron Judges, if you want
to say that, that's fine, that's incredible.
Speaker 3 (38:26):
Bob got to be the you're.
Speaker 11 (38:30):
Doing turning to Mica Off like I was saying, I
feel like that's an unfair He's got to be the
greatest all time on both sides, Rob g I didn't
you said for him to be like Garry Dodge is
the greatest hitter. So if show Hey is that plus
also pitching, then he's the greatest.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Nobody has to be the best in one of the categories.
Speaker 5 (38:51):
He's because how are you going to really mad? Is
the best in one of the categories.
Speaker 4 (38:55):
I'm just saying, Babe Ruth the best in one of
the Babe Ruth when when in his yes he was
the great, he was considered the greatest slugger. A lot
of people say Barry Bars took that over. But that's
why people value Babe Ruth and talked about his his career.
Speaker 5 (39:10):
That's the only thing I'm saying. But he was, he
was the best.
Speaker 4 (39:13):
He's not the best pitcher and he's not the best hitter.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
That's the strong Tayshawn Prince, who else got Rajon Rondo?
This is a reach, This is a reach boy,
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